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            1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7              Tuesday, September 22, 2009

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                    Council Chambers

 

           11                 Scranton City Hall

 

           12              340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

                (Not present)

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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                MS. SUE MAGNOTTA, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and

 

            2              moment of reflection observed.)

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please.

 

            4                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.

 

            6                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.

 

            7              Fanucci.  Mr. Courtright.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.

 

            9                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Let the record

 

           11              show that Mrs. Gatelli and Mrs. Fanucci

 

           12              called and said this they would be

 

           13              unavailable for tonight's meeting.  Prior to

 

           14              any business, we have a proclamation to be

 

           15              read and presented.  Mr. Courtright will

 

           16              make read the proclamation.

 

           17                      WHEREAS, the Council of the City of

 

           18              Scranton, is desirous of honoring the

 

           19              "LACKAWANNA LITTLE LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD

 

           20              ALL STARS" for capturing the DISTRICT 17

 

           21              TITLE, compiling a record of 9 and 1 in

 

           22              total All-Star play; and

 

           23                      WHEREAS, the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE

 

           24              LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD ALL STARS" captured

 

           25              the SECTION 5, STATE QUALIFYING TOURNAMENT


 

 

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            1              TITLE, compiling a record 4 and 0;

 

            2                      WHEREAS, the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE

 

            3              LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD ALL STARS" advanced

 

            4              to the ELITE 8 in the Commonwealth of

 

            5              Pennsylvania, finishing in 3rd Place in the

 

            6              EASTERN STATE PLAYOFFS; and.

 

            7                      WHEREAS, the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE

 

            8              LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD ALL STARS" have

 

            9              brought great pride and honor to their

 

           10              community and the entire City of Scranton by

 

           11              their actions.  These young men are shining

 

           12              examples of student-athletes who conduct

 

           13              themselves with class and discipline;

 

           14              dignified in defeat and humble in victory.

 

           15              The "LACKAWANNA LITTLE LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR

 

           16              OLD ALL STARTS" are everything ours schools

 

           17              and community admire - true representatives

 

           18              of the youth of our City and of the Little

 

           19              League organization; and

 

           20                      WHEREAS, the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE

 

           21              LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD ALL STARTS" team

 

           22              consist of the following players: THOMAS

 

           23              CARROLL, MATTHEW GAUL, GRIFFIN GILROY, KYLE

 

           24              GRAHAM, THOMAS IVANOFF, AUSTIN LIPOWITCH,

 

           25              GRIFFIN LOUREIRO, NICHOLS PFOHL, KYLE


 

 

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            1              POLISHAN, COLE STETZAR, MATTHEW TULANEY AND

 

            2              NOAH WORSINCK, and

 

            3                      WHEREAS, the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE

 

            4              LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD ALL STARTS" are

 

            5              coached by Head Coach John Lipowitch, Team

 

            6              Manager Bill Stetzar and assisted by team

 

            7              das Tim Gaul, Bob Graham, Neil Ivanoff,

 

            8              Frank Polishan and Frank Worsnick.

 

            9                      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that

 

           10              on Tuesday September 22, 2009, Scranton City

 

           11              Council wishes to congratulate the

 

           12              "LACKAWANNA LITTLE LEAGUE 9 AND 10 YEAR OLD

 

           13              ALL STARTS", along with their coaches and

 

           14              parents for their outstanding achievement.

 

           15                      BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this

 

           16              Proclamation be made a permanent part of the

 

           17              Minutes of this Council, as lasting tribute

 

           18              to the "LACKAWANNA LITTLE LEAGUE 9 AND 10

 

           19              YEAR OLD ALL STARTS TEAM OF 2009."

 

           20                      (The Lackawanna Little League Team

 

           21              receives their proclamation.)

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Just a few announcements

 

           23              before we move to civic participation.  As

 

           24              you may have read in the paper,

 

           25              Mr. Scopelitti declined our offer to appear


 

 

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            1              in caucus on the advice, as the newspaper

 

            2              said and as he related to me after saying

 

            3              that he would appear, he met with the

 

            4              authority board and with the solicitor and

 

            5              they advised that any communications between

 

            6              the parking authority and council would be

 

            7              done in written form.  We also received a

 

            8              letter from the solicitor today indicating

 

            9              such.

 

           10                      Also, a follow-up to something

 

           11              that was brought up last two weeks, I met on

 

           12              Friday with representatives of the

 

           13              University of Scranton and the attorney

 

           14              representing the complainants from the Hill

 

           15              Section and also Mr. Bharucka, I believe, it

 

           16              was something similar to that, I'm sorry if

 

           17              I mispronounced it, and also representatives

 

           18              from that area concerning the compactor that

 

           19              was going to be placed near the gentleman's

 

           20              residence.  We met at the existing compactor

 

           21              as a demonstration of how it operates and

 

           22              when it operates and so on and I would say

 

           23              that it is a compactor.

 

           24                      What they were planning on doing

 

           25              was move it -- it's a compactor that


 

 

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            1              services some of the residence halls and

 

            2              residence houses.  It was not a compactor

 

            3              for the entire University property.  It

 

            4              primary dealt with paper products, paper and

 

            5              cardboard.  Since most of the people living

 

            6              in the residence halls are on food plans

 

            7              with the cafeteria there was very little in

 

            8              the way of food that was placed into the

 

            9              compactor.  Everything was bagged.  It was

 

           10              only operated during the daytime hours by a

 

           11              single individual who worked just daytime

 

           12              hours.  It was -- I'm not going to say it

 

           13              was completely noiseless, but it was no

 

           14              louder than a car running, you know, idling.

 

           15                      They demonstrated the compactor then

 

           16              we walked to the site where it was going to

 

           17              be -- to where it was going to be moved.

 

           18              After discussions with again the attorneys

 

           19              and representatives from the University of

 

           20              Scranton, it was decided that they would

 

           21              work with the residents of the area to come

 

           22              to a resolution that was favorable to all.

 

           23                      I should also -- I would like to

 

           24              also say that this was not done without --

 

           25              the original movement of the compactor was


 

 

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            1              done with the okay of the people to where it

 

            2              was going to be moved.  They met with the

 

            3              gentleman that eventually would start the

 

            4              complaint -- the -- I'm losing the word

 

            5              here.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: The petition.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: The petition to not have

 

            8              it.  He originally thought it was okay as

 

            9              long as it was moved a little bit away from

 

           10              the alleyway.  Later on I guess there was a

 

           11              change of heart, and that's when the

 

           12              petition was presented.  The University of

 

           13              Scranton was not doing this without having

 

           14              contacted the people involved.

 

           15                      Also, I'd like to mention that when

 

           16              we had gone through the site where they were

 

           17              looking to move the compactor there were

 

           18              four existent dumpsters, privately owned

 

           19              dumpsters in that Court that were far more

 

           20              odorous than what was going to be placed

 

           21              there, but the end result is that they are

 

           22              going to work to try to come to some

 

           23              resolution that is favorable to both

 

           24              parties, and any other announcements?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  Please remember in


 

 

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            1              your prayers all those who have died this

 

            2              past week, particularly, retired firefighter

 

            3              and Truck II Chauffeur, Joseph Bernardi, and

 

            4              his family and friends he leaves behind.  He

 

            5              served his community with unending

 

            6              dedication and great professionalism for

 

            7              which we are all very grateful.

 

            8                      In October Comcast will make the

 

            9              following changes to your cable channels:

 

           10              Government access Channel 61 will move to

 

           11              Channel 19 and educational access Channel 62

 

           12              will move to Channel 21.  Unfortunately,

 

           13              Comcast has not supplied the exact date in

 

           14              October when these changes will occur.

 

           15                      St. Michael's Ukrainian Orthodox

 

           16              Church will hold it's seventh annual

 

           17              Ukrainian food festival September 27th from

 

           18              11 to 5 p.m. The festival is located at Main

 

           19              Avenue and Howell Street.  Delicious streets

 

           20              such as peirrogie, haluski, borscht and

 

           21              homemade desserts will be served.

 

           22                      St. Joseph's Church in Minooka will

 

           23              conduct a craft show on September 26th from

 

           24              9 a.m. to 3 p.m.  Handcrafted items and

 

           25              refreshments will be available.


 

 

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            1                      St. Paul's United Methodist Church

 

            2              at Prospect Avenue and Birch Street in

 

            3              Scranton will hold it's annual bazaar and

 

            4              bake sale on September 26th from 9 a.m. to

 

            5              4 p.m.

 

            6                      Also, Lackawanna County will hold

 

            7              it's 2009 senior flu vaccine clinics at

 

            8              various locations from late this month

 

            9              through midOctober.  The clinics, however,

 

           10              are for the seasonal flu only.  Location and

 

           11              dates for the flu vaccine clinics are as

 

           12              follows:

 

           13                      The downtown senior center,

 

           14              October 5.  South Side Senior Center,

 

           15              October 6.  West Side Senior Center,

 

           16              October 7.  Dunmore Senior Center,

 

           17              October 8, and the Jewish Community Center

 

           18              October 14.  Each clinic will run from 10

 

           19              a.m. to 2 p.m.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Could we ask ECTV if

 

           21              they would run that, also?

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: The flu clinic?  The flu

 

           23              vaccine clinic, absolutely.  Kay, if we

 

           24              could just have that information forwarded,

 

           25              please, to ECTV.  I think that will be very


 

 

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            1              beneficial for our seniors to be aware of.

 

            2                      And finally, I am very pleased with

 

            3              the outcome to date of the trash compactor

 

            4              location in the Hill Section.  I, indeed,

 

            5              hope that the University is working well

 

            6              with it's neighbors and satisfying our city

 

            7              residents and as long as they are a

 

            8              satisfied then I am satisfied, and that's

 

            9              all.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Prior to going -- I did

 

           11              forget one thing, just to remind people that

 

           12              the Steamtown Marathon will be held on

 

           13              October 11, Sunday morning, there is still

 

           14              time to sign up if anyone is interested.

 

           15              Citizens' participation.  Les Spindler.

 

           16                      MS. GARVEY: Excuse me, Mr. McGoff,

 

           17              we need to do Third Order first.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, I'm jumping

 

           19              ahead.  I'm sorry, Mr. Spindler.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A.

 

           21              CONTROLLER'S REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDING

 

           22              AUGUST 31, 2009.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           24              If not, received and filed.

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. MINUTES OF THE


 

 

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            1              VACANT PROPERTY REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING

 

            2              HELD ON MAY 21, 2009.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            4              If not, received and filed.

 

            5                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. AGENDA FOR THE

 

            6              VACANT PROPERTY REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING

 

            7              HELD SEPTEMBER 17, 2009.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            9              If not, received and filed.

 

           10                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third

 

           11              Order.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Now it's

 

           13              citizens' participation.  Mr. Spindler.

 

           14                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council.

 

           15              Les Spindler, city taxpayer, homeowner.

 

           16              Last week I read in the Doherty newsletter

 

           17              Chris Doherty wants to run for governor.  He

 

           18              didn't officially get reelected mayor yet

 

           19              and he wants to run for governor.  It just

 

           20              continues to show the arrogance of this man.

 

           21              He thinks he can be whatever he wants to be.

 

           22                      This city is in such dire straights,

 

           23              our long-term debt over $250 million, our

 

           24              public safety unions haven't had a raise in

 

           25              eight years, the downtown is becoming like a


 

 

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            1              ghost town and he wants to become governor.

 

            2              Well, I think he should resign as mayor in

 

            3              right now and let the people write somebody

 

            4              in in November that wants to run this city

 

            5              and only wants to run this city and doesn't

 

            6              want to better themselves with something

 

            7              else.  Like I said, it just continues to

 

            8              show the arrogance of this man.

 

            9                      Next thing, I see where the ice rink

 

           10              at the Ice Box is closing or it is closed

 

           11              and they are going to put basketball courts

 

           12              in there.  Well, what a mistake that is.

 

           13              There is basketball courts right next door

 

           14              in the Riverfront Sports Complex.  All this

 

           15              is is another white elephant project from

 

           16              Chris Doherty's administration.

 

           17                      Can anybody up there name me one

 

           18              successful project that's opened under Chris

 

           19              Doherty's administration that's been a

 

           20              success?  I don't think there are any.  I

 

           21              mean, we had Southern Union, we know what

 

           22              happened there.  Molly Brannigan's closed,

 

           23              the Ice Box is going belly up, the other

 

           24              places are closing and -- well, Mrs. Fanucci

 

           25              is not here to defend herself, but she says


 

 

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            1              there is progress in the city.  I don't know

 

            2              where the progress is.

 

            3                      Lastly about Mr. Scopelitti.  He was

 

            4              advised by his board and solicitor not to be

 

            5              here.  Well, what are they afraid of?  What

 

            6              are they trying to hide?  And Mr. Scopelitti

 

            7              went on, he said, he wanted to stay out of

 

            8              the political sniping comments of the weekly

 

            9              meetings.  Well, when there is caucuses held

 

           10              here, I never remember any political sniping

 

           11              going on.  It's just a copout on

 

           12              Mr. Scopelitti's part, he is trying to hide

 

           13              something, he doesn't want to show up, I

 

           14              think council should use their subpoena

 

           15              powers to get Mr. Scopelitti here and answer

 

           16              questions.  That's all I have tonight.

 

           17              Thank you.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Mike Dudek.

 

           19                      MR. DUDEK: My name is Mike Dudek,

 

           20              608 Depot Street.  I live in the Plot.  On

 

           21              my remarks tonight I'm going to restrict

 

           22              them to a piece of legislation going through

 

           23              here, the amending of the Firearm's Act in

 

           24              the city.  I can pretty much predict what's

 

           25              going to happen here if this passes.  And,


 

 

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            1              by the way, it is very well-written.  In my

 

            2              opinion this should past constitutional

 

            3              muster, okay?  I did teach some

 

            4              constitutional law so I do not have enough

 

            5              of a background to have a reasonable opinion

 

            6              on what you have here.  What you have here

 

            7              should hold water constitutionally.

 

            8                      At the same time, I should also tell

 

            9              you I thought that Philadelphia had a

 

           10              wonderful firearms law as far as restricting

 

           11              the use of assault weapons within the city,

 

           12              but the Commonwealth Court unexplainably,

 

           13              inexplicably backed the National Rifle

 

           14              Association's arguments on that issue and

 

           15              struck that portion of the Philadelphia

 

           16              Firearms Act as unconstitutional in

 

           17              Pennsylvania, so I can pretty much predict

 

           18              the National Rifle Association will come and

 

           19              challenge the City of Scranton in Court.

 

           20              This is going to be a court fight.

 

           21                      I think the Brady Organization will

 

           22              also be involved on the side of the city,

 

           23              but let me tell you this, I am so in favor

 

           24              of what you are trying to do to protect the

 

           25              people of the City of Scranton and our


 

 

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            1              police officers in the City of Scranton that

 

            2              if this -- if you amend the charter, the

 

            3              Home Rule Charter to put this new wording in

 

            4              and the National Rifle Association sues the

 

            5              city, I'm a very poor guy, but I will

 

            6              contribute $100 to the City of Scranton in

 

            7              order to fight the National Rifle

 

            8              Association on this.

 

            9                      You are on the right track.  You are

 

           10              trying to protect the city, but also you are

 

           11              trying to protect our police officers.  To

 

           12              allow, you know, the criminal element the

 

           13              unfettered run of gun that the National

 

           14              Rifle Association wants them to have it's

 

           15              unconscionable, absolutely unconscionable.

 

           16              I favor backing our citizens and I favor

 

           17              backing our police and that's what you are

 

           18              doing with this new amending and I want you

 

           19              to stick by it.  Thank you.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Fay Franus.

 

           21                      MS. FRANUS:  Fay Franus.  I was

 

           22              going to address some issues, but since

 

           23              Mrs. Gatelli us in the here tonight or Mrs.

 

           24              Fanucci I'll wait.  I was looking at some

 

           25              information under past minutes and in May


 

 

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            1              12, 2005, I checked the minutes and Joe

 

            2              Pilcheski filed a lawsuit -- or, excuse me,

 

            3              a Right-to-Know and he got some

 

            4              information of some of the grants that were

 

            5              written for the police, and one of them, Tom

 

            6              Bell, was a grant writer at the time and he

 

            7              mentioned that council passed legislation

 

            8              that evening, May 12, 2005, for a grant for

 

            9              the police department.  Well, I went over

 

           10              the minutes and there was no legislation on

 

           11              that agenda at all, unless I didn't see it,

 

           12              but I pretty much scanned it on the city

 

           13              council website, so I'm just trying to say

 

           14              Mrs. Gatelli said last week everybody makes

 

           15              mistakes and let's move on.  Well, I say

 

           16              let's not move on.  Let's put this at a

 

           17              screeching halt.

 

           18                      And I ask you, Mr. Courtright, to

 

           19              check all of these meetings, have someone do

 

           20              it, and find out how many grants are

 

           21              written, who asked for them, who wrote them,

 

           22              if they did or did not get council approval

 

           23              because I do not go along with what

 

           24              Mrs. Gatelli said at all last week.  She

 

           25              just seemed like she wanted to bury it.


 

 

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            1              Well, I don't to bury it, I want it out in

 

            2              the light, so what did we find out,

 

            3              Mr. Courtright.

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Kay is putting

 

            5              together as much of the legislation as she

 

            6              can find and they are looking into --

 

            7              looking back in the minutes to see what came

 

            8              before council and what didn't, but it

 

            9              takes a lot of time.  I believe we got a lot

 

           10              of the grants from the grant writer from the

 

           11              county.  She did give them to us, Kay?  So

 

           12              it's just taking some time.  Do you want to

 

           13              give it to you in piecemeal to you or do you

 

           14              want to wait until the end?

 

           15                      MS. FRANUS: Oh, I'll wait, Bill, but

 

           16              what I'm trying say is -- -

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No, we didn't drop

 

           18              the ball.  She's been doing it.  It just

 

           19              takes a lot of time.

 

           20                      MS. FRANUS:  Oh, I'm sure, but my

 

           21              point is that was just one little example

 

           22              that they didn't have any vote from council,

 

           23              so I'm just thinking can you imagine if it

 

           24              was all of them?  So it just wasn't a little

 

           25              mistake.  I think it was done deliberately


 

 

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            1              and knowingly that they did not get council

 

            2              approval and still ask for grant, just

 

            3              bypass council.  I'm not saying council

 

            4              approved it, they probably would have, but

 

            5              they didn't bother to come in front of

 

            6              council, and I think something should be

 

            7              done.

 

            8                      And another point, 7-C tonight, I do

 

            9              not think that you should vote on this.  I

 

           10              think it's going to put the City of Scranton

 

           11              in a very, very weak position.

 

           12                      Another matter, Mr. McGoff, last

 

           13              year I came here in front of council and I

 

           14              spoke because I live in Bellevue right by

 

           15              the South Side Complex and many, many people

 

           16              had told me when I took my boy down there

 

           17              that they had to pay $400 and some dollars

 

           18              to play.  And I came in front of council

 

           19              last year and presented this to you and you

 

           20              told me basically I was wrong.  Well, it's

 

           21              not the case.  You said the University of

 

           22              Scranton said whatever, but you just brushed

 

           23              it aside and now here it is again this

 

           24              summer.  So this has been going on for years

 

           25              now so I hope they get to the bottom of it.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't believe I said

 

            2              they weren't paying, I said the University

 

            3              was not charging.

 

            4                      MS. FRANUS:  But I can check the

 

            5              records you --

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay, I don't want to

 

            7              argue with you, I actually agree with you.

 

            8                      MS. FRANUS:  I think it happened --

 

            9              I think my point is I think it has been

 

           10              going on for many years, not just this year

 

           11              because I remember last year it was going on

 

           12              that the people were complaining and now

 

           13              again this year.  I think somebody should --

 

           14              and I know it's not your position to, but if

 

           15              anybody is listening out there and this has

 

           16              happened to them I wish they would contact

 

           17              the police because it's not right.  It is

 

           18              fraud as Mr. Minora said.  That's all.  I

 

           19              wasn't here earlier, where is Mrs. Gatelli

 

           20              and Mrs. Fanucci tonight?

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: They called and said

 

           22              they would not be attending.

 

           23                      MS. FRANUS:  No reason?

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Illness I believe.

 

           25                      MS. FRANUS:  Both of them sick.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.

 

            2                      MS. FRANUS: All right.  Thank you.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Ozzie Quinn.

 

            4                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'

 

            5              Association.  How many times have we seen in

 

            6              the past Andy Sbaraglia stand up here and

 

            7              tell the council about the Scranton Parking

 

            8              Authority's, you know, debt and no one

 

            9              listened, you know?  It seems there is a

 

           10              trend here, okay, The parking authority and

 

           11              Mayor Doherty's administration borrowing to

 

           12              pay off a loan.  You can't do it.  It's

 

           13              common sense and they continue to do it.

 

           14                      How much are we in debt now in

 

           15              regards to -- are we able to fill the hole

 

           16              for the 2009 budget, it was 1.5 the last

 

           17              time I heard?  Does anybody know?  I mean,

 

           18              that's for this year's budget?

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: We are awaiting right now

 

           20              the release of the 888 account funds from

 

           21              the Scranton Tax Office which should range

 

           22              approximately in the $3 million figure.

 

           23                      MR. QUINN:  I see.  Hopefully.

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: But we still -- I'm

 

           25              jumping ahead, we did get a draft copy of


 

 

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            1              the audit just this afternoon.  It's not the

 

            2              final copy, but it's certainly going to be--

 

            3              when the final copy is presented to us I

 

            4              think it's going to be very useful in

 

            5              calculating the city's principle and

 

            6              long-term debt.

 

            7                      MR. QUINN:  I just want to say that

 

            8              the majority, council majority have, you

 

            9              know, lost control, you know, of the

 

           10              authorities and of the OECD.  They just do

 

           11              what they want to do and they -- they are

 

           12              making a joke out of you and you sit there

 

           13              and you don't do anything about it, you

 

           14              know?  And you come up here and you condemn

 

           15              the taxpayers who try to tell you what's

 

           16              going on and you won't listen because you

 

           17              owe your soul to the company man,

 

           18              Mr. Doherty, and it's ashame, you know.

 

           19                      And last week Pugh Research Center

 

           20              put out their findings in regard to a survey

 

           21              of newspapers, 74 percent of the people

 

           22              surveyed said the newspaper are biased.

 

           23              Well, you know what, it's tough really to

 

           24              let the people explain, all right, what's

 

           25              going on when they come up here and they


 

 

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            1              don't even put in the paper what the people

 

            2              are saying, okay, about what's going on and

 

            3              it's always pro Mr. Doherty.  Now, if that

 

            4              isn't bias I don't know what it is, you

 

            5              know?

 

            6                      And it's really, I mean, we are in a

 

            7              tough shape here financially and the

 

            8              Scranton Times has a lot to do with it, but

 

            9              the fact that they don't let it out and

 

           10              investigate, find out what's going on.  We

 

           11              have the Parking Authority, we have the DPW

 

           12              down there, we have 600,000 owed by the Ice

 

           13              Box down there.  We have Mr. Doherty's

 

           14              $170 million in debt and he is going around

 

           15              the state saying thousands of jobs he

 

           16              created and they are printing that, you

 

           17              know?  That's baloney and we all know it.

 

           18              All bet he hasn't created 200 jobs and if he

 

           19              has they have been mostly minimum wage job

 

           20              or waitress and waiters jobs that only get

 

           21              paid $2.83 an hour and rely on tips.

 

           22                      This is -- I mean, there is a lot of

 

           23              unfairness coming out four blocks from down

 

           24              the street that's killing our city and they

 

           25              call us naysayers, you know?  The naysayers


 

 

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            1              are up here trying to get the city on track,

 

            2              but nobody will listen.  The council

 

            3              majority just wants to defend and the

 

            4              administration and the Scranton Times is

 

            5              backing it and, you know, you got to call a

 

            6              spade a spade and there is no doubt about it

 

            7              and everybody in this city that will tell

 

            8              you, you know, not everybody, but a lot of

 

            9              people will tell you what's going on.  They

 

           10              don't know the other side of -- you know, of

 

           11              what Mrs. Evans is thinking or

 

           12              Mr. Courtright is thinking, you know?  And

 

           13              if you do say something, Mrs. Evans, they'll

 

           14              put you there in a cartoon and make you look

 

           15              like you are what's his name, you should be

 

           16              in Disneyland or someplace.

 

           17                      Now, that's unfair, I believe.

 

           18              There is ethics involved here and I don't

 

           19              know where there ethics is.  I seen

 

           20              Mr. George Lynett at an Ethics Commission at

 

           21              the University of Scranton put on by

 

           22              Georgetown University and he is there

 

           23              shaking his head, shaking his head.  Well, I

 

           24              called up the Georgetown University

 

           25              professor and he says, "Hang in there," he


 

 

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            1              says, "that's all I can tell you."  Thank

 

            2              you.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Lee Morgan.

 

            4                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.

 

            5              You know, I was here last week when the OECD

 

            6              executive director was here.  I thought that

 

            7              that meeting was just terrible.  I thought,

 

            8              and I'm being honest, I thought there was

 

            9              more political wrangling going up on

 

           10              council.  I think the questions could have

 

           11              been much different.

 

           12                      I have to say that the situation the

 

           13              Parking Authority finds itself in is no

 

           14              secret.  City council in recent memory had

 

           15              an opportunity to issue subpoenas because

 

           16              that's council's obligation.  In my opinion,

 

           17              the one meeting council agreed to issue

 

           18              subpoenas.  In my opinion, unless somebody

 

           19              can show me minutes to the contrary, I mean,

 

           20              my opinion stands firm.  Those subpoenas

 

           21              should have been issued and now years later

 

           22              or over a course of time we are going to

 

           23              decide now that we have a problem with the

 

           24              Parking Authority, with OECD, with various

 

           25              other authorities, and I have to say that


 

 

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            1              the real problem here is council.  We can

 

            2              shoot the mayor if we want to, but --

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, that's --

 

            4                      MR. MORGAN: And I don't mean with a

 

            5              gun, but I mean we can take shots at the

 

            6              mayor here all day.  The mayor is

 

            7              responsible for a lot of things that have

 

            8              happened in this city, but I have to say

 

            9              that council has been the catalyst for the

 

           10              destruction of this city over a very long

 

           11              period of time.  I for the life of me can't

 

           12              understand how this council can reach

 

           13              conclusions and make votes without backup.

 

           14              I can't understand why some council members

 

           15              ask if they should look into something after

 

           16              a vote.  I can't understand how council lost

 

           17              the authority to set the sewer rates.

 

           18              That's in a Home Rule Charter.  I can't

 

           19              understand how this council has failed this

 

           20              city over a such an extended period of time

 

           21              and what we are going to do here is we are

 

           22              going to play point the finger.

 

           23                      The truth of the matter is, this

 

           24              council is divided.  This council needs to

 

           25              become independent.  I don't know if it's


 

 

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            1              ever going to happen, but when you walk

 

            2              through this city and you see the rolling

 

            3              blight everywhere, I'm not talking about one

 

            4              section of the city, I'm talking about the

 

            5              whole city, one house here, one house there,

 

            6              what about all of the vacant lots we've had

 

            7              in the city where we have torn houses down

 

            8              allegedly?  Who is maintaining those lots?

 

            9              I seen a ton of them, nobody is cutting the

 

           10              grass there.  What about the all

 

           11              condemnations we are doing?  Are they being

 

           12              done according to law or are we using an

 

           13              ordinance that council passed in my opinion

 

           14              in violation of law to gain access to

 

           15              people's properties in order to do

 

           16              condemnations?  How many people know how

 

           17              long you have to appeal a decision on

 

           18              condemnation?  I bet you that almost no

 

           19              residents in this city know that.

 

           20                      How about when you are towing

 

           21              people's vehicles off their properties?

 

           22              Now, I had to run-in of my own with the city

 

           23              over that ordinance and I filed a criminal

 

           24              complaint and they towed my vehicle back to

 

           25              my home and they put it back in my driveway


 

 

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            1              and I have had to problems since then.  I

 

            2              think the residents of this city have to

 

            3              stand up and start fighting for what they

 

            4              want.  Our population is declining, we can't

 

            5              take anymore taxes, we have listened to

 

            6              everybody bringing the University and the

 

            7              nonprofits to help us, they are not coming

 

            8              to help us, they are stealing off of us and

 

            9              this council has helped them and previous

 

           10              councils.

 

           11                      We have got to stop talking about

 

           12              plowing snow and picking up garbage.

 

           13              Council has got to use it's authority to do

 

           14              investigations in this city and come to

 

           15              conclusions and use your solicitor.  That's

 

           16              what he is there for.  Thank you.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Ron Ellman.

 

           18                      MR. ELLMAN: Hi.  Ronnie Ellman,

 

           19              Taxpayers' Association member.  About 30,

 

           20              35 years ago, this is just real quick, a

 

           21              friend of mine gave me a little I guess you

 

           22              call it a little toy, it had a -- it was a

 

           23              little tiny train called a construction crew

 

           24              and you had a little platform about this big

 

           25              and this little train you put a marble in it


 

 

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            1              and it would go all over this track and come

 

            2              back where it started and drop the marble

 

            3              off.  It just didn't do anything.  If didn't

 

            4              accomplish anything except giving a little

 

            5              joy I guess to little kids.

 

            6                      We got a big construction crew I

 

            7              have been watching for a month right there

 

            8              at Mt. Pleasant.  They move the dirt down

 

            9              here, then they move it back and sideways.

 

           10              They are not accomplishing nothing except

 

           11              eating up money.  There is no building

 

           12              permits been taken out to do anything there,

 

           13              it just excavating, and it's just like my

 

           14              little toy train it's not accomplishing

 

           15              nothing.  It's just nothing, nothing,

 

           16              nothing.  What sense is there in just having

 

           17              this keep going?  I tell you what sense

 

           18              there is because they think they are going

 

           19              to get it in somehow, Mr. Doherty and

 

           20              Mr. Burke think the taxpayers are going to

 

           21              give up or disappear or something.  They

 

           22              have high hopes that this KOZ and all of the

 

           23              promises they made to people going through

 

           24              and I just don't believe it could happen

 

           25              right now, you know, the way things are.


 

 

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            1                      Can you just imagine the graphic

 

            2              corruption with a $33 million project?  I

 

            3              wish I could get in on it, I'll tell you the

 

            4              damn truth.  I would be -- I would be the

 

            5              biggest supporter Mr. Burke ever had if they

 

            6              would give me a job down there.

 

            7                      I have another thing to change the

 

            8              subject, Saturday I was going down North

 

            9              Main Avenue, and I don't know the 2100-2200

 

           10              block where Pond is, there is a crew cutting

 

           11              down some little tiny trees that weren't as

 

           12              big as this post.  Now, why in the world do

 

           13              they have to be out there on Saturday just

 

           14              looking for something to do?  You ought to

 

           15              seen all of the people.  They had a couple

 

           16              of trucks and guys all over the place and

 

           17              flagmen and they are cutting down little

 

           18              trees like this.  If you go by North Main

 

           19              you can see what they cut down.  I mean, you

 

           20              know, and they were there for hours doing

 

           21              nothing.  I went down you know where for

 

           22              lunch, and I come back about three hours

 

           23              later and they finally left about 4:00, I

 

           24              guess.

 

           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Could you see three


 

 

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            1              hours later or --

 

            2                      MR. ELLMAN:  And I don't know, but

 

            3              why do they have to do this on a Saturday to

 

            4              get all their overtime.  These little --

 

            5              this was just something looking for

 

            6              something to do.  I worked for Mr. DeNaples

 

            7              long enough, when he was here I would be

 

            8              over here.  I would learn how to hide from

 

            9              him and I learned how to get overtime in and

 

           10              all of that so I know what I'm talking

 

           11              about.

 

           12                      And I got one other thing I would

 

           13              like to say real quick.  I saw in the paper

 

           14              where King Joe and his power lifters or

 

           15              whatever you call them, weightlifter guys,

 

           16              they had some kind of meeting and donated

 

           17              the proceeds to St. Jude in Memphis and I

 

           18              thought this is nice because as tight as I

 

           19              am you know I support St. Judge.  It's such

 

           20              a wonderful organization.  Thank you.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Michael Apalla.

 

           22                      MR. APALLA:  Mike Apalla, North

 

           23              Scranton.  I just want to follow-up on

 

           24              Fellows Park, I know they brought it up last

 

           25              week at the meeting, they put it on record


 

 

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            1              to find out where exactly the homes are that

 

            2              need to be raised, where they stand on the

 

            3              list, and I didn't know where Fellows Park

 

            4              the house that was there --

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: They tore that house

 

            6              down.

 

            7                      MR. APALLA: Get out of here?

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah.

 

            9                      MR. APALLA: See, that's I should

 

           10              have drove by there today.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I was going to

 

           12              announce it for Mr. Scopelitti -- Mr.

 

           13              Scopelitti, Mr. Seitzinger told me here last

 

           14              week, and I wasn't here last week, to

 

           15              announce, that if you go by it's gone.

 

           16                      MR. APALLA: Beautiful.  That's

 

           17              fantastic.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So we are happy

 

           19              about that?

 

           20                      MR. APALLA: Because I'm talking with

 

           21              Dick Lasky, I'm a resident of North

 

           22              Scranton, and we were talking about the

 

           23              other homes that are up there and trying to

 

           24              find out -- I know last year the City of

 

           25              Scranton $250,000 or somewhere in the


 

 

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            1              neighborhood to raze homes and I wanted to

 

            2              find out how much more of that money is left

 

            3              and where exactly the homes stand on that

 

            4              list so we can get those down as well

 

            5              because they are right down on my street on

 

            6              Main Avenue there.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think you can go

 

            8              down and give the list off of them, I think

 

            9              they would give you the list down there.  I

 

           10              think we are trying push through the ones on

 

           11              Emmett Street now that are really, really

 

           12              bad.

 

           13                      MR. APALLA: Yeah, they are bad

 

           14              everywhere and I'm hoping each neighborhood

 

           15              gets one and we can move forward from there,

 

           16              but I thank you very much.

 

           17                      MS. MCGOFF: Any other speakers?

 

           18                      MS. WILLIAMS:  Good evening,

 

           19              Council.  Joanne Williams, city resident.  I

 

           20              was listening to a few speakers and, of

 

           21              course, you know how much I love this city.

 

           22              I look at the positive things that are here.

 

           23              I feel a true Scrantonian -- I know I lived

 

           24              though when I was very young and not so

 

           25              young when there was a Scranton Dry and the


 

 

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            1              Globe, I remember all of these good

 

            2              memories.  I also remember memories of a Nay

 

            3              Aug Park that became drug infested for many

 

            4              years and now I remember a city coming back,

 

            5              a medical school, parks, the downtown

 

            6              revitalizing.  Nothing is perfect and there

 

            7              is going to be economic woes, but that's all

 

            8              over the country.

 

            9                      My first thing tonight is I feel

 

           10              it's time for our city to have a curfew for

 

           11              children under the age of 18.  It's

 

           12              astonishing to see how many young children

 

           13              are roaming after dark.  That's one thing I

 

           14              really would like to see especially -- we do

 

           15              have gangs in this city, there is no doubt

 

           16              about it, and we need to get our young

 

           17              people inside at a good time.

 

           18                      The next, correct me if I'm wrong,

 

           19              but it is my understanding, Mrs. Evans, this

 

           20              is to you, that you want to do away with

 

           21              business loans.  If so, Mrs. Evans, you will

 

           22              be chasing our young adults away.  There is

 

           23              one cosmetology graduate who was thinking of

 

           24              opening a hair salon here in the city when

 

           25              she graduates.  But, Mrs. Evans, you are


 

 

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            1              telling her no.  What kind of plan is that?

 

            2              I call it no incentive for young business

 

            3              leaders and then we are all wondering why we

 

            4              are leaving.  Her plans are to move out of

 

            5              the city if she can't get a loan when it's

 

            6              time for her to open up her salon.

 

            7                      Last, when most of us apply for a

 

            8              job, a criminal background check needs to be

 

            9              done.  My question is as seated government

 

           10              officials and those running for government

 

           11              seats, are they required to have a criminal

 

           12              check done?  If not, it's time to make a

 

           13              motion or a law that every seated or anyone

 

           14              running for office must have a clear

 

           15              criminal record.  I certainly do not want

 

           16              someone making decisions for our city if

 

           17              they do have a record and there is a rumor

 

           18              floating around, and it's a rumor, it's only

 

           19              a rumor or hearsay that there is someone

 

           20              running for office that may have one.

 

           21                      I feel an investigation needs to be

 

           22              done to clarify this rumor or that person,

 

           23              whoever it may be, needs to step up to the

 

           24              plate and be honest.  You know, we all make

 

           25              mistakes, honesty and integrity is what


 

 

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            1              really counts here and I am hoping that the

 

            2              Scranton Times, and I'm looking at ya, takes

 

            3              my concerns seriously and does an

 

            4              investigation and I hope you are listening,

 

            5              I hope you are listening to me, does an

 

            6              investigation because after all,

 

            7              Scrantonians have the right to know this.

 

            8                      If there is someone with the

 

            9              criminal background who was seated now, not

 

           10              only on city council, school board,

 

           11              whatever, there needs to be an

 

           12              investigation.  When you work with children

 

           13              or you work in the nursing field any kind of

 

           14              work today a criminal background check is

 

           15              done.  It's time that that was done and I'm

 

           16              hoping that seriously the Times takes this

 

           17              and looks into it.  Thank you, and have a

 

           18              good evening.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?

 

           20                      MR. DOBRZYN:  Good evening, Council,

 

           21              Dave Dobrzyn.  Member of the Taxpayers', a

 

           22              resident of Scranton.  On 5-B, is it?  I was

 

           23              wondering how would this apply to

 

           24              discharging a firearm inside a home in the

 

           25              event of a somewhat egregious home invasion,


 

 

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            1              because if somebody just decides to kick in

 

            2              your door and come in and see what they can

 

            3              get and is possibly armed themselves, it's a

 

            4              question.  Maybe you can address it after

 

            5              because that would be a concern.  I don't

 

            6              see where -- I see people on open carrier

 

            7              and I think --

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think you are

 

            9              allowed to defend your home, and I would

 

           10              defer to Mr. Minora.

 

           11                      MR. DOBRZYN:  I certainly hope so,

 

           12              and on 7-C I'd like to reiterate Andy

 

           13              Sbaraglia's concerns here.  We can't afford

 

           14              to lose anymore money.  And on this, it was

 

           15              just mentioned on criminal background

 

           16              checks, well, you know, our state isn't very

 

           17              forgiving on any criminal activity no matter

 

           18              how many years ago it happened, but they

 

           19              sure know where to come when they want taxes

 

           20              paid, you know, so after awhile I think

 

           21              maybe we should be looking into some laws

 

           22              that kind of forgive people and let them

 

           23              rejoin society instead of having them

 

           24              marginalized for a lifetime and unable to

 

           25              find certain jobs or unable to get student


 

 

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            1              loans or what have you.  There is a time for

 

            2              forgiveness.  I mean, when something is

 

            3              years and years old and behind and they

 

            4              haven't been arrested since and so forth

 

            5              unless it's something like some child

 

            6              molesting pervert or something that, you

 

            7              know, or a murder, whatever, you know, it's

 

            8              time to start -- for society to be a little

 

            9              forgiving.

 

           10                      And few weeks ago I tuned in on ECTV

 

           11              and I seen the mayor and Austin Burke, and I

 

           12              kind of agree with Mayor Doherty on cities

 

           13              are going to come back because they have to

 

           14              with the energy and so forth, the energy

 

           15              problems we are facing in the future, people

 

           16              are going to have to reconcentrate and

 

           17              that's all there is to it.  But, we had a

 

           18              manufacture's fair and when Austin Burke

 

           19              spoke I often felt that Mr. Jackowicz was

 

           20              being a little tough on him or whatever, but

 

           21              he kind of gave a willy-nilly approach to

 

           22              courting outside manufacturers.

 

           23                      For instance, we had a manufacturing

 

           24              fair a couple of months ago, I think it was

 

           25              up at the Montage and a man was looking at


 

 

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            1              solar panels, manufacture of solar panels to

 

            2              come in here, and I often wondered -- I

 

            3              wondered at that time when I heard Austin

 

            4              Burke speak are you ever trying to get

 

            5              people like that in to at least review the

 

            6              feasibility of having one of these people

 

            7              relocate in town because, I mean, with

 

            8              manufacturing you don't have to be a rocket

 

            9              scientist, with these trade packs whether we

 

           10              realize it or not we are obligating our

 

           11              children to walk out of school as rocket

 

           12              scientists and possibly there is no

 

           13              guarantee, if you go to college, there is no

 

           14              guarantee that you will ever work in the

 

           15              field.  There is no real guarantee and we

 

           16              are obligating ourselves to --  might I

 

           17              point out for four years of well-healed

 

           18              college about $120,000.  Otherwise, our kid

 

           19              could be become a smashing failure some day

 

           20              or unable to support himself or whatever.

 

           21              So that's something to think about.  We

 

           22              really need to once again try to get some

 

           23              manufacturers in here and instead of office

 

           24              space.  Offices don't -- in my opinion don't

 

           25              create much more than paper, some recyclable


 

 

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            1              paper.  So thank you and have a good night

 

            2              and end of sermon.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else?

 

            4                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Hello, Bill.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Hi, Chris.

 

            6                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Well, Bill, what

 

            7              happened last week?  We got crushed.  This

 

            8              week, Bill.  Look at my shirt, Billy.  Look

 

            9              at that, Billy.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Once from westsider

 

           11              always a westsider.

 

           12                      MR. SLEDENZSKI:  That's right,

 

           13              Billy.  That's right, Baby.

 

           14                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening.  Marie

 

           15              Schumacher, resident and member of the

 

           16              Taxpayers' Association.  Regarding 5-C, do

 

           17              any of the three of you believe that that

 

           18              building has a market value of over

 

           19              $1 million?  If not, you must vote against

 

           20              subordinating the city's position.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: 7-C.

 

           22                      MS. SCHUMACHER: That was last week,

 

           23              I guess, maybe even two weeks ago, sorry.

 

           24              But, yes, that building I don't think we

 

           25              need to be put in last place yet again.


 

 

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            1                      Do we have any idea when we are

 

            2              going to get the audit report?

 

            3                      MS. EVANS: I'll address that under

 

            4              motions.

 

            5                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Thank you.  The sign

 

            6              restricting the truck traffic on Seymour

 

            7              Avenue from 307 has not been repositioned

 

            8              and is only readable remember from the --

 

            9              not from the north or south, but only from

 

           10              the critters across the street, and since

 

           11              the critters don't drive those heavy

 

           12              excavating trucks it would be nice if we

 

           13              could get that sign repositioned so that the

 

           14              truckers could read it and hopefully obey it

 

           15              even maybe.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I think -- I'll address

 

           17              it later, I'm sorry.

 

           18                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And I have noticed

 

           19              over the past several weeks the city or

 

           20              Borough of Dunmore has been having e-mail

 

           21              retention problems and I just wondered do we

 

           22              have a policy in the City of Scranton on

 

           23              retention of e-mails which are city records?

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: The only thing I could

 

           25              say would be that since the new


 

 

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            1              Right-to-Know Act has occurred all e-mails I

 

            2              believe would be from that point forward

 

            3              would be public information.  For example,

 

            4              any council member e-mailing our office that

 

            5              should be public information, the responses

 

            6              we receive back.

 

            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER: But how long are

 

            8              they retained?  The issue is retention and

 

            9              if it's more than 30 days.  If we don't --

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: That I don't know.

 

           11                      MS. SCHUMACHER: My only point is if

 

           12              we don't have a policy I think we probably

 

           13              need to have one developed --

 

           14                      MS. GARVEY: I believe it's 90 days.

 

           15              I believe it's 90, but I'll have to check.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           17                      MS. SCHUMACHER: That may not even

 

           18              meet muster, that might -- you might want to

 

           19              review that.  Again, I attended the hearing

 

           20              yesterday on the sale or the proposals to

 

           21              utilize the Army Reserve Center up on Colfax

 

           22              Avenue, and at this meeting I learned

 

           23              something interesting aside from what the

 

           24              Howard Gardener School does, which was very

 

           25              exciting any and of itself, but I learned


 

 

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            1              that the chamber wants to rebrand this area

 

            2              as a community of learning, so I guess we

 

            3              are seating ourselves to being a college

 

            4              town, which I guess may not be entirely bad,

 

            5              but I would hope that you the city council

 

            6              would start looking at what some of the

 

            7              other states are doing.  You look no further

 

            8              than Rhode Island where they currently are

 

            9              discussing -- their legislature is

 

           10              discussing two things which I think would be

 

           11              good for the City of Scranton and the

 

           12              Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

 

           13                      First, they are a proposing a

 

           14              student tax of $150 per semester which would

 

           15              apply to 95 percent of the graduate,

 

           16              undergraduate and medical students.  It

 

           17              would be up to the school whether they would

 

           18              assess each student or if they would raise

 

           19              money to pay that some other way.

 

           20                      They have another law that they are

 

           21              looking at and debating to partially do away

 

           22              with the property tax assessment for large

 

           23              nonprofits requiring those with holdings

 

           24              valued over $20 million to pay property tax

 

           25              at 25 percent of the normal rate, and I


 

 

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            1              think that is another thing, and I'm sure

 

            2              there are things around in the other states

 

            3              that might benefit us if somebody would take

 

            4              a look.

 

            5                      I also notice in the paper that the

 

            6              federal government has given amnesty to the

 

            7              people who were hiding their money offshore

 

            8              at least in Switzerland, and I think if it's

 

            9              good enough for the federal government it

 

           10              should be good enough for the City of

 

           11              Scranton.  I looked with dismay on all of

 

           12              the properties that were up for sherif's

 

           13              sale yesterday or that upside down or

 

           14              whatever the heck, I don't know what it

 

           15              means, anyway.

 

           16                      If I may just finish on the school.

 

           17              I would ask that you would look into the

 

           18              proposal of the Howard Gardener has made for

 

           19              the utilization of that property, and where

 

           20              the mayor's plan might fight in the capital

 

           21              budget with all of the lists, long lists of

 

           22              capital projects that are unfunded and maybe

 

           23              vote to send a letter supporting the Howard

 

           24              Gardener School which would have to be in by

 

           25              the 30th of this month.  Thank you.


 

 

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            1                      MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.

 

            2              My name is Nancy Krake.  This November's

 

            3              general election there is one candidate for

 

            4              mayor.  Mayor Doherty is running for

 

            5              governor of Pennsylvania in 2010.  Strangely

 

            6              enough, he is also running for mayor of

 

            7              Scranton in 2009.  That's all of the office

 

            8              he has indicated up to now, as far as I

 

            9              know.  However, the mayor still has time to

 

           10              pick out a few other offices to run for, so

 

           11              he may be a candidate for congress or state

 

           12              representative and mayor and governor.  When

 

           13              will he have time to run the city?  Does he

 

           14              expect to be paid while he stumps across the

 

           15              state?  That would be theft of services.

 

           16                      He is so convinced he has done such

 

           17              a great job in Scranton raising taxes

 

           18              27 percent, burying us in long-term debt,

 

           19              dragging down the authorities with the job

 

           20              after job for friends and allowing NCC and

 

           21              Abrahamsen, Moran and Conaboy to pillage and

 

           22              plunder the homeowners of this city.  Come

 

           23              to think of it, maybe he is running away

 

           24              from the mess he has created.

 

           25                      Either way, I hope he is ready for


 

 

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            1              his actions to be exposed by the real press.

 

            2              The real press exists outside this one

 

            3              newspaper town.  The Scranton Times turns a

 

            4              deaf ear to anything even remotely

 

            5              controversial this mayor does.  Every

 

            6              speaker, Ozzie Quinn, the paper never let

 

            7              the truth get in the way of their

 

            8              Doherty/Times lovefest.

 

            9                      There is one candidate for mayor

 

           10              this November, however, you will have to

 

           11              write his name in, Gary DiBileo.  Thank you.

 

           12                      MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening.  Nelson

 

           13              Ancherani, First Amendment Rights.  Last

 

           14              week I reported that as a result of a

 

           15              Right-to-Know letter to Stu Renda

 

           16              information received by me was for the

 

           17              period from 2002 through 2009.  $1,309,215

 

           18              has been paid to three attorneys

 

           19              representing the city against the fire and

 

           20              police unions.  Again, that's $1,309,215.

 

           21                      Other persons have been saying that

 

           22              it was over a million dollars that this

 

           23              mayor has paid to fight the unions.  It's a

 

           24              lot of money to satisfactory an ego

 

           25              appetite.  These are high-priced lawyers,


 

 

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            1              some making as much as $600 an hour to spend

 

            2              over $1 million on attorneys and then we

 

            3              make kids pay to swim.

 

            4                      I also mentioned last week that

 

            5              Attorney George Reihner's information was

 

            6              requested, but that the information was

 

            7              excluded.  Just to refresh everyone's

 

            8              memories I, understand Attorney Reihner

 

            9              represents Mrs. Gatelli in her private

 

           10              lawsuit against Doherty deceit website owner

 

           11              Joe Pilcheski.  From what I understand,

 

           12              Attorney Reihner has been paid upwards of

 

           13              $30,000 by the city on that private lawsuit.

 

           14              I would have liked to ask Mrs. Gatelli if

 

           15              she has paid that money back to the city as

 

           16              this is a private lawsuit, but she is not

 

           17              here.  If the information I'm requesting on

 

           18              my Right-to-Know letter had been included I

 

           19              wouldn't have to ask the question, but I

 

           20              guess I would have anyway.

 

           21                      Last week I asked what was going on

 

           22              or what was not going on at the Connell

 

           23              building.  Did the construction work stop

 

           24              there?  Every time I go by I don't see any

 

           25              construction workers.  Anybody else see any


 

 

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            1              construction workers?  I see workers working

 

            2              on the $35 million parking garage that is

 

            3              connected to the Connell building, but no

 

            4              one at the Connell building, unless they are

 

            5              invisible.  Did we run out of the

 

            6              $35 million already since the Scranton

 

            7              Parking Authority was going to default on

 

            8              the bond payment and since they forgave

 

            9              $665,000 to Molly Brannigan's before they

 

           10              skipped town.  Will the city taxpayers be

 

           11              responsible for the loans and how could they

 

           12              with be defaulting anyway on any bonds or

 

           13              loans when $879,000 was given to the Parking

 

           14              Authority from the 2009 budget for parking,

 

           15              citation issuers.  It's a lot of money and

 

           16              they'd have to have a lot of issuers.

 

           17                      What's going on, three businesses

 

           18              defaulting on their loans to the tune of

 

           19              $722,000, now the Ice Box closed.  What

 

           20              about our $600,000 for the old DPW property

 

           21              where the Ice Box is located?  Now that they

 

           22              are closed is that money to be gone also?

 

           23              What about the $2 million that was lost

 

           24              through accounting errors at the tax office?

 

           25              How much is that now when we add in the


 

 

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            1              5.5 million American Anglican arbitration

 

            2              loss and the 250,000 plus for the torn down

 

            3              former Casey parking garage?  When we total

 

            4              it out it's over $11.6 million.  Now I see

 

            5              why we can't let kids swim free, we are busy

 

            6              throwing good money after bad.

 

            7                      There is so much more, but don't

 

            8              worry, Taxpayers, you will foot the bills,

 

            9              and as I said before, grab your ankles and

 

           10              kiss your butts goodbye.  Thank you.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?

 

           12              Mrs. Evans?

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Good evening.

 

           14              At last week's council meeting, I stated

 

           15              that Mr. Robert Scopelitti, executive

 

           16              director of the Scranton Parking Authority,

 

           17              would attend a public caucus this evening to

 

           18              discuss the financial status of the Scranton

 

           19              Parking Authority and it's give-aways to the

 

           20              former Molly Brannigan's Restaurant and Pub.

 

           21                      Although, Mr. Scopelitti had agreed

 

           22              to speak to council in it's back office,

 

           23              rather than in public, he has since

 

           24              declined.  After he met with the Scranton

 

           25              Parking Authority Board and solicitor, it


 

 

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            1              was decided he would not attend tonight's

 

            2              caucus.  Since his meeting was scheduled in

 

            3              the back office by Mr. McGoff, it is now

 

            4              quite obvious that Mr. Scopelitti, the

 

            5              Scranton Parking Authority Board and

 

            6              solicitor are, indeed, trying to avoid city

 

            7              council.  It is inexcusable that the meeting

 

            8              was cancelled, particularly since it was

 

            9              members of council who approved the Parking

 

           10              Authority's $35 million bond issues, revenue

 

           11              bond issue, and who also approved OECD loans

 

           12              to some of the Authority's tenants.

 

           13                      It seems the Parking Authority

 

           14              wishes to continue it's pattern of secrecy

 

           15              and skirt accountability and transparency.

 

           16              Apparently the board, solicitor, and

 

           17              administrators have forgotten that the city

 

           18              pledged it's full faith and credit for it's

 

           19              loans, therefore, it is the taxpayers who

 

           20              are responsible for the Parking Authority's

 

           21              debt should it fail to meet it's financial

 

           22              obligations.  In other words, the Parking

 

           23              Authority cannot go bankrupt.  These

 

           24              payments by law will be made and if not made

 

           25              by the revenue from the Parking Authority it


 

 

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            1              will be made through the taxing power of the

 

            2              citizens of the Scranton.

 

            3                      In addition, in December 2008, the

 

            4              Parking Authority received a million dollar

 

            5              line of credit to balance it's 2009 budget

 

            6              and funds remained to carry over actually

 

            7              into this year.  Now, Mr. Scopelitti is

 

            8              seeking another line of credit to pay end of

 

            9              year bills for 2009.  It appears the

 

           10              Scranton Parking Authority is on very shaky

 

           11              financial ground despite Mr. Scopelitti's

 

           12              protests.

 

           13                      We did receive, as President McGoff

 

           14              indicated under announcements, a letter

 

           15              today from Mr. Paul A. Kelly.  I'm assuming

 

           16              he is the solicitor or one of the solicitors

 

           17              to the Scranton Parking Authority.  I'm not

 

           18              going to read the entire letter, but I will

 

           19              skip to the third paragraph:

 

           20                      "Further, as you know the Scranton

 

           21              Parking Authority is a separate legal entity

 

           22              and we wish to keep the lines of

 

           23              communication open, however, any future

 

           24              appearances by Mr. Scopelitti or any other

 

           25              Scranton Parking Authority personnel must be


 

 

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            1              conducted in council caucus not to be taped

 

            2              or aired by television media."

 

            3                      Now, in response to this letter, I

 

            4              move to send a letter to Mr. Paul Kelly

 

            5              indicating that because the public is

 

            6              ultimately responsible for the revenue bond

 

            7              debt of the Parking Authority, any caucus

 

            8              conducted between city council and the

 

            9              Scranton Parking Authority will be held in

 

           10              council chambers and it will be televised.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All in

 

           13              favor signify by saying aye.

 

           14                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Opposed?  No.  The ayes

 

           17              have it and so moved.

 

           18                      MS. EVANS:  Now, if I might, I just

 

           19              wanted to further explain, a revenue bond is

 

           20              very different from other types of bonds.

 

           21              For example, the interest rate for a revenue

 

           22              bond is typically higher and the bond rating

 

           23              for a revenue bond is typically lower.  It

 

           24              is often called a double-barrel bond, and as

 

           25              I stated before legally the bonds can never


 

 

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            1              be in default because the City of Scranton

 

            2              pledged it's full faith and credit behind it

 

            3              which means the power of taxation.

 

            4                      Now, if the Parking Authority were

 

            5              unable to meet it's financial obligations,

 

            6              and it is quite difficult today to approach

 

            7              any for refinancing for a line of credit,

 

            8              for loans, in fact, because of the

 

            9              struggling national economy, we as a city

 

           10              council and the mayor would have to provide

 

           11              the funds for payment of their revenue bond

 

           12              issues within the city's operating budget

 

           13              and it is not farfetched to say this could

 

           14              happen even in the 2010 budget, but let's be

 

           15              frank, the city has no reserve upon which it

 

           16              can draw to make these payments.  Who does

 

           17              that leave?  The taxpayers.

 

           18                      And so you see, Mr. Scopelitti and

 

           19              the board of directors of the Scranton

 

           20              Parking Authority do indeed hold a

 

           21              significant responsibility to answer to

 

           22              Scranton City Council and to the taxpayers

 

           23              of Scranton, and I will not submit questions

 

           24              that can be answered by their attorneys.

 

           25              They will come to council or council will


 

 

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            1              come to them.

 

            2                      Also, many speakers tonight had a

 

            3              question about the 2008 independent audit.

 

            4              Council, as I mentioned earlier, did receive

 

            5              a draft copy of the 2008 independent audit

 

            6              today.  The city's management and discussion

 

            7              analysis section must be prepared in the

 

            8              near future and the exit conference must be

 

            9              scheduled, and so council does hope to have

 

           10              the final audit on it's agenda within the

 

           11              next, let us say, possibly two weeks.

 

           12                      Last week, I was informed by a Times

 

           13              reporter that a revised Recovery Plan will

 

           14              be presented to council in November for it's

 

           15              approval.  The presentation of the plan will

 

           16              coincide with the submission of the mayor's

 

           17              2010 operating budget.  I believe that the

 

           18              Pennsylvania Economy League or PEL is

 

           19              attempting to railroad a Recovery Plan

 

           20              through city council prior to any potential

 

           21              changes in Scranton's elected leadership.

 

           22              Elected offices, as you know, will not be

 

           23              decided until the November election.  The

 

           24              city council majority may change in

 

           25              January 2010, thus, allowing a lame duck


 

 

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            1              council to approve a revised Recovery Plan

 

            2              rather than the council who must work with

 

            3              it for the next four years.

 

            4                      Equally important, Scranton mayor

 

            5              seems more interested in a Harrisburg office

 

            6              than he is in another term in city hall.

 

            7              Devoting a significant amount of time and

 

            8              attention to his potential run for the

 

            9              governor's office, Mr. Doherty may well be

 

           10              neglecting his responsibilities to his home

 

           11              city.  As the financial house of cards and

 

           12              economic development come tumbling down, the

 

           13              mayor is trying to make a rapid escape.  He

 

           14              should focus on his current job, the job he

 

           15              disingenuously proclaimed he wanted for

 

           16              another term and clean up his mess in

 

           17              Scranton.

 

           18                      Thus, Scrantonians may elect a mayor

 

           19              who wants to leave shortly into his new term

 

           20              of office.  If PEL is genuinely sincere in

 

           21              any attempts to assist our city in lifting

 

           22              it's distressed status, it will wait until

 

           23              2010 to present it's revised Recovery Plan

 

           24              to the elected officials and taxpayers of

 

           25              Scranton.  It should not tie the hands of


 

 

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            1              our city's next council and mayor.  However,

 

            2              Mr. Doherty has openly violated his own

 

            3              Recovery Plan for the last seven or

 

            4              eight years while the Pennsylvania Economy

 

            5              League enabled him with its silence and

 

            6              council members predictably supported his

 

            7              agenda.  The Doherty administration has set

 

            8              a precedent of violations opening the door

 

            9              to potential future violations.

 

           10                      If PEL and DCED are serious about a

 

           11              revised Recovery Plan and lifting Scranton's

 

           12              distressed status, they will wait and work

 

           13              with the elected officials who will serve

 

           14              our city for the next four years and present

 

           15              their plan to the people throughout the

 

           16              sections of our city.  To present it's plan

 

           17              in 2009 is to work against not only elected

 

           18              officials, but also the taxpayers of

 

           19              Scranton, many of whom already view the

 

           20              Pennsylvania Economy League as an albatross.

 

           21              Many taxpayers perceive the expired Recovery

 

           22              Plan as a failure that swelled management

 

           23              positions and salaries, unduly increased

 

           24              taxes, and created historical debt.

 

           25                      PEL must work diligently and


 

 

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            1              honestly to restore our confidence in a

 

            2              revised Recovery Plan and to a swage

 

            3              formidable opposition.  Appropriate timing

 

            4              of the Recovery Plan presentation to council

 

            5              can be the first act of good faith by PEL

 

            6              toward the taxpayers of Scranton.

 

            7                      Next, Kay, were you able to locate

 

            8              any legislation concerning dumpsters or

 

            9              trash compactors since last week?

 

           10                      MS. GARVEY:  No, nothing that

 

           11              pertained to that particular issue.  It was

 

           12              just I believe like 15 feet from, you know,

 

           13              like a residence or something like that

 

           14              would have been allowed, but nothing

 

           15              further.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Okay.  Thank you.  In the

 

           17              event though I would hope that the matter

 

           18              between the residents of the Hill Section

 

           19              and the University of Scranton would not be

 

           20              amicably and satisfactorily taken care of, I

 

           21              would like city council to look into

 

           22              drafting an ordinance that would pertain to

 

           23              the location of trash compactors within

 

           24              residential neighborhoods.

 

           25                      I also wanted to address a question


 

 

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            1              that was posed to me earlier this evening by

 

            2              a speaker regarding business loans, OECD

 

            3              business loans, and I believe the speaker

 

            4              made a statement that I am against all

 

            5              business loans, and frankly, nothing could

 

            6              be further from the truth.  If one were to

 

            7              examine my voting record over the last six

 

            8              years, I have approved many loans that have

 

            9              been given through OECD.  However, I don't

 

           10              approve loans that turn into let us say a

 

           11              grant, a freebie, a loan that will never be

 

           12              repaid.  I don't approve loans that I

 

           13              consider to be a poor risk after I have done

 

           14              the research on the particular business and

 

           15              I will not approve any such loans going

 

           16              forward either.

 

           17                      When a business applies for a loan

 

           18              and they have proven themselves to be a

 

           19              viable business with the proper background

 

           20              and the ability to make repayment and they

 

           21              also reflect an absence of tax liens against

 

           22              them, then I will be vote in favor as I have

 

           23              always done.  When that is not part of the

 

           24              picture, I will continue to vote "no."

 

           25                      And finally, I have citizens'


 

 

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            1              requests for the week:  The corner of Olive

 

            2              Street and Wheeler Avenue, the house is

 

            3              boarded up and the property is again

 

            4              overgrown with high grass and weeds.  By the

 

            5              curb, the fire hydrant is blocked from view

 

            6              by high weeds.  This problem was cleaned and

 

            7              cut during the last several months by a

 

            8              neighbor and by my husband.  Please contact

 

            9              the property owner who must take

 

           10              responsibility and the city ordinances must

 

           11              be enforced.

 

           12                      PEL summaries.  Council requests

 

           13              summaries of meetings between PEL and city

 

           14              representatives.  The last summary received

 

           15              was for August 10, 2009.  Also, please

 

           16              provide detailed summaries since previous

 

           17              cursory summaries are of little value to

 

           18              council.

 

           19                      Since April 2009, I have requested

 

           20              from Mr. Stu Renda information regarding all

 

           21              management employees.  Salaries, health care

 

           22              contributions, etcetera.  Council's office

 

           23              will have several requests for this

 

           24              information on file.  Kay, I would like to

 

           25              send a Right-to-Know request to Mr. Renda


 

 

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            1              for this information as soon as possible.

 

            2              Refer to prior letters for the exact

 

            3              information being requested, and again, it

 

            4              is inexcusable that the business manager

 

            5              failed to provide information requested by

 

            6              elected officials of Scranton.

 

            7                      Further, identical information

 

            8              regarding union employees, identical

 

            9              information regarding union employees was

 

           10              supplied in April or May 2009 to

 

           11              Councilwoman Fanucci.  Consequently, there

 

           12              is no reason to justify Mr. Renda's

 

           13              deliberate failure to provide management

 

           14              information.

 

           15                      An update on North Cameron Avenue

 

           16              flooding:  A PennDOT engineer will assess

 

           17              the flooding issues within two weeks.  Both

 

           18              Representative Murphy's office and PennDOT

 

           19              were shocked by photos from a ten-minute

 

           20              rainstorm supplied by Mr. Newcomb.  They

 

           21              have assured residents of North Cameron

 

           22              Avenue that they will not let the issue rest

 

           23              and this is indeed very encouraging news

 

           24              since the city has failed to properly

 

           25              address the problem for years.


 

 

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            1                      And finally, please provide an

 

            2              update on the progress of the Connell

 

            3              Building to Scranton City Council, and

 

            4              that's it.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes, I would like

 

            7              to compliment the Scranton Fire Department.

 

            8              Last week directly across the street from my

 

            9              karate school there was a fire and I

 

           10              happened to be there when it initiated, and

 

           11              there is not one person that was standing

 

           12              there in the beginning watching thinking

 

           13              that the whole block was going to go.  I

 

           14              mean, we all believed the whole block was

 

           15              going to go.  They got there, they called

 

           16              the second alarm right away.  They not only

 

           17              saved the building that was on fire, but

 

           18              neither building on either side received any

 

           19              fire damage, maybe some smoke damage, so

 

           20              they just in my opinion did an unbelievably

 

           21              good job and I would like to congratulate

 

           22              them for that.

 

           23                      Fellows Park, as the gentleman said

 

           24              earlier, I was not here last week I was out

 

           25              of town, and Mr. Seitzinger did inform me


 

 

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            1              that they tore that house down and I want to

 

            2              thank him for that.  I will ask them to be

 

            3              pursuing the two on Emmett Street.  I went

 

            4              there after the last meeting the next

 

            5              morning they are really, really bad.  I went

 

            6              up on the porch to see the date that they

 

            7              were condemned, it was 2005, and all day

 

            8              long I feel like I had bugs on me from

 

            9              walking on that porch, so I wouldn't want to

 

           10              live in that neighborhood.

 

           11                      I forget, someone brought up a

 

           12              curfew for 18 years old, I don't remember

 

           13              who it was, but the mayor of West Pittston,

 

           14              Bill Gouldsworthy, happens to be a friend of

 

           15              mine and I had just had this discussion with

 

           16              him last week.  They do have a curfew in

 

           17              their town, and I don't know if it would be

 

           18              something that would fit in Scranton, but he

 

           19              seems to think it's worked extremely well in

 

           20              his town.  They also have an ordinance that

 

           21              does not allow anybody under the age of I

 

           22              believe 18 or maybe 16 to smoke in public in

 

           23              their town, and that has also worked out

 

           24              well for them, so I don't know if it's a

 

           25              good fit for the City of Scranton or not,


 

 

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            1              but if we are willing to do that maybe Mayor

 

            2              Goldsworthy would be somebody we would want

 

            3              to speak to.

 

            4                      And I don't know if it's something I

 

            5              should talk about, I don't have a criminal

 

            6              background, as far as I know.  I have never

 

            7              been arrested but -- -

 

            8                      MR. DOBRZYN: Are you sure about

 

            9              that, Bill?

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I'm pretty sure,

 

           11              but I think there is only certain things

 

           12              that would prevent us from running from

 

           13              office, and as the speaker said we have all

 

           14              made mistakes, you know, in the past and

 

           15              especially I think if it was a mistake maybe

 

           16              we made when we were a minor, you know.  I

 

           17              think some of us have done some things that

 

           18              we are not proud of.  I think some of us

 

           19              have done some things that we might be happy

 

           20              we got away it with, and as you get older I

 

           21              think you realize that more and more, so I

 

           22              don't know if anybody up here has a criminal

 

           23              background or not, but I think if

 

           24              it's something that would prevent you from

 

           25              running then maybe the public needs to know


 

 

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            1              about it, but if it's something that would

 

            2              be considered harmless, and I'm not trying

 

            3              to trivialize anything that's a crime, but

 

            4              how many children have gotten grabbed

 

            5              possibly say for underage drinking?  You

 

            6              know, I know we don't want to admit that,

 

            7              but I think there has been quite a few in

 

            8              this town that that's happened to and I

 

            9              don't think that should prevent them from

 

           10              running, and I don't think it does prevent

 

           11              them from running.

 

           12                      Am I against saying our background,

 

           13              no, but I don't think dredging up something

 

           14              maybe that was minor when we were kids is

 

           15              necessary if, in fact, that's the case.  If

 

           16              it's something worse, obviously.  And I

 

           17              think that's all I have.  Thank you.

 

           18                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, if I

 

           19              could just add something to what you are

 

           20              saying, I don't believe the city though has

 

           21              any laws pertaining to the subject that you

 

           22              just discussed, I think the laws are set by

 

           23              the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and then,

 

           24              of course, we have many rules and

 

           25              regulations that must be adhered to that are


 

 

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            1              set by the county, specifically, the Office

 

            2              of the Voter Registration, and I know, for

 

            3              example, and you might remember this,

 

            4              several years ago I was very interested in

 

            5              pay-to-play legislation for the City of

 

            6              Scranton setting a ceiling on the amount,

 

            7              the dollar amount of contributions that

 

            8              could be received by any candidate running

 

            9              for city office, and I was prevented from

 

           10              doing so because it is the state that

 

           11              determines that law and it would be the

 

           12              state legislature who would have to amend

 

           13              that law concerning pay-to-play and that

 

           14              Scranton, for example, would have been in

 

           15              violation of state laws in order to pass any

 

           16              such legislation.

 

           17                      So I do think probably what was

 

           18              being inferred earlier is already covered by

 

           19              state law and I think we've seen the -- we

 

           20              have seen some of that even in practice

 

           21              locally when an individual has been

 

           22              convicted of, was it a felony crime, they

 

           23              can't pursue -- or they can pursue an

 

           24              office, but they can't serve.

 

           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That's right.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS: That may have been the

 

            2              situation, so I don't believe that anyone on

 

            3              a city level is able to draft and pass such

 

            4              legislation.  I think you know.  As I said.

 

            5              It's already covered by the State of

 

            6              Pennsylvania.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Let me just say

 

            8              this, the reason I brought it up was a few

 

            9              years back someone, I guess I could consider

 

           10              him a friend, was running for an office, not

 

           11              city council, here in this city and I'll

 

           12              never forget at a political campaign party,

 

           13              I believe it was at Shooter's, someone

 

           14              saying to this individual, "You can't run

 

           15              for office, you have been arrested."

 

           16                      And he pretty much knew right then

 

           17              and there he was able to run.  I don't think

 

           18              it was a felony that he was convicted of and

 

           19              it was something that this individual had

 

           20              done when they were younger and probably

 

           21              that much us have done similar to what he

 

           22              had done.  I didn't, but other people might

 

           23              have.  But anyway, I'll never forget it.  It

 

           24              was many years ago when I very first ran for

 

           25              office and so I listened intently to see


 

 

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            1              what they were saying, and this individual

 

            2              knew right away they were able to run and,

 

            3              in fact, he did allude to the fact that it

 

            4              wasn't local, it was state that created the

 

            5              laws, but I'll leave it at that.  Thank you.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: I would just like to

 

            7              address the issue of the Parking Authority

 

            8              and Mr. Scopelitti's declining our request

 

            9              to attend caucus.  Also, contained in the

 

           10              letter that Mrs. Evans referenced was the

 

           11              statements that requested council make a

 

           12              formal request for the appearance of the

 

           13              executive director and any Scranton Parking

 

           14              Authority's materials council may want to

 

           15              review and that council make this formal

 

           16              request and that all issues council may wish

 

           17              to discuss may be listed in said request.  I

 

           18              don't think that that's an unreasonable --

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: We did that though.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: -- request.  Excuse me.

 

           21              I don't think that that's unreasonable.  I

 

           22              believe that if we want honest and open

 

           23              answers to questions from anyone coming to

 

           24              caucus that they should have a prior

 

           25              knowledge of what it is that is being


 

 

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            1              requested so --

 

            2                      MR. SPINDLER: So they can rehears.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, you had your

 

            4              opportunity.  Also, claims of the -- claims

 

            5              of default that are being made or claims

 

            6              that the Parking Authority may default on

 

            7              paying it's bills are supposition, they are

 

            8              not facts and yet they are being presented

 

            9              to the public as facts.

 

           10                      Also, claims of forgiveness of rent

 

           11              may be misleading.  What was reported may

 

           12              not be the entirety of the truth concerning

 

           13              Brannigans, and I also believe that, and the

 

           14              reason I voted against Mrs. Evans' motion, I

 

           15              think that that motion pretty much

 

           16              guarantees that no one from the Parking

 

           17              Authority will appear at a caucus.

 

           18                      MR. SPINDLER: Subpoena them.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Please leave,

 

           20              Mr. Spindler.

 

           21                      MR. SPINDLER:  All right.  You don't

 

           22              have to ask.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           24                      MR. SPINDLER: You are pathetic.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  I think if history --


 

 

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            1              if we can use history as a reference point,

 

            2              the attempts to subpoena public officials

 

            3              end up in the courts and they never appear.

 

            4              I will reference the former tax collector of

 

            5              the infamous Single Tax Office who, you

 

            6              know, we still have not been able to get any

 

            7              resolution on that issue and I think that

 

            8              that's what's going to happen whenever we

 

            9              request someone from the Parking Authority

 

           10              to appear that they will simply go to court

 

           11              and claim that they do not have to appear

 

           12              and we will never get the information that

 

           13              we want.

 

           14                      I wish that Mr. Scopelitti appeared

 

           15              this evening at caucus.  It would have

 

           16              solved, you know, a lot of problems for us.

 

           17              We could have gotten the information, but he

 

           18              didn't and they decided to pursue this in

 

           19              another way.  I think if we want -- if we

 

           20              want the information then that has been

 

           21              requested then we need to pursue it in a

 

           22              different way.  We are not going to get it

 

           23              by making demands that are going to end up

 

           24              in the court.  I think we need to have

 

           25              answers.  I wish that we could have found


 

 

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            1              another way of deriving at them, another

 

            2              resolution to the problem.  Hopefully, in

 

            3              the next couple of weeks we can.

 

            4                      Mr. Scopelitti did indicate to me

 

            5              that any information that was requested from

 

            6              council if it was in written form would be

 

            7              replied to immediately.  I don't know if

 

            8              that will satisfy what people want, but it

 

            9              may be at least a step towards getting the

 

           10              information that we need.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. McGoff, can I

 

           12              ask one question, please?

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Sure.

 

           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I was wondering,

 

           15              Kay, if you could find out for us, I have no

 

           16              idea who is on the board of the Parking

 

           17              Authority.  Could you possibly get that list

 

           18              for us?  It just dawned on me I have no clue

 

           19              who is on that board because am I correct in

 

           20              saying that the board agreed that that's

 

           21              what would take place, they wouldn't come or

 

           22              was it just Mr. Scopelitti and the attorney?

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: The letter indicates he

 

           24              is complying with the Scranton Parking

 

           25              Authority Board's directive.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: All right.  If you

 

            2              don't mind, Kay.  Thank you.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

            4                      MS. EVANS: But just for clarity's

 

            5              sake, council had made a formal request and

 

            6              that request was made with the agreement of

 

            7              council members, and so again the argument

 

            8              doesn't really hold water.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Prior to Fifth Order,

 

           10              prior to a 5-B I would like to make a motion

 

           11              that Mr. Courtright be named temporary chair

 

           12              for the Committee on Community Development.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All in

 

           15              favor signify by saying aye.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           19              have it and so moved.  Mrs. Garvey?

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: Before beginning with

 

           21              Fifth Order I just want to make a

 

           22              correction.  There is typo in the agenda

 

           23              that appeared.  In Fifth Order there are two

 

           24              items that are enumerated 5-B, so that's

 

           25              just a typo, so where you see the first 5-B


 

 

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            1              that's correct and then we'll move on from

 

            2              there to 5-C, D, E and F.

 

            3                      MS. GARVEY: 5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

            4              AN ORDINANCE - TO AMEND CHAPTER 232 OF THE

 

            5              CODE OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO REPEAL

 

            6              ARTICLE I OF CHAPTER 232 TITLED "FIREARMS"

 

            7              AND REPLACE WITH A NEW ARTICLE I TITLED

 

            8              "FIREARMS", TO PROVIDE FOR DEFINITIONS,

 

            9              DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS AND FAILURE TO REPORT

 

           10              LOST OR STOLEN FIREARMS, AND RENUMBERING THE

 

           11              REMAINING SECTIONS OF CHAPTER 232 IN

 

           12              SEQUENTIAL ORDER.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           14              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

           15              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS:  Second.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  Mr. Courtright, can

 

           20              you possibly summarize for the public the

 

           21              new article on Firearms of Chapter 232 of

 

           22              the city code that's supposed to replace the

 

           23              previous article?

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah.  One of the

 

           25              things they wanted to do is it's requiring


 

 

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            1              you if you have a firearm that's lost or

 

            2              stolen that you report it within a 48-hour

 

            3              period, and also the discharging of a

 

            4              firearm in the City of Scranton with

 

            5              somebody other than a police officer

 

            6              carrying out their duties.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS: Okay.  Thank you.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  You are welcome.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: All those in favor

 

           10              signify by saying aye.

 

           11                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           14              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           15                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C.  FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           16              A RESOLUTION - APPOINTMENT OF PETER P.

 

           17              CUPPLE, M.D., 1656 SANDERSON AVENUE,

 

           18              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18509, AS A MEMBER

 

           19              OF THE HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD

 

           20              FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE (5) YEAR TERM. DR.

 

           21              CUPPLE'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRES ON OCTOBER 11,

 

           22              2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER

 

           23              11, 2014.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           25              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


 

 

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            1              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

            3                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            5              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            9              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           10                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           11              A RESOLUTION -  APPOINTMENT OF RICHARD J.

 

           12              LEONORI, AIA, 848 NORTH IRVING AVENUE,

 

           13              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18510, AS A MEMBER

 

           14              OF THE HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD

 

           15              FOR AN ADDITIONAL (5) YEAR TERM. MR.

 

           16              LEONORI'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRES ON OCTOBER

 

           17              11, 2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON

 

           18              OCTOBER 11, 2014.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           20              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be

 

           21              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           23                      MS. EVANS:  Second.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           25              in favor signify by saying aye.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            4              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            5                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

            6              A RESOLUTION - APPOINTMENT OF JOHN T.

 

            7              COGNETTI, 917 SUNSET STREET, SCRANTON,

 

            8              PENNSYLVANIA, 18509, AS A MEMBER OF THE

 

            9              HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD FOR AN

 

           10              ADDITIONAL FIVE (5) YEAR TERM. MR.

 

           11              COGNETTI'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRES ON OCTOBER

 

           12              11, 2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON

 

           13              OCTOBER 11, 2014.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           15              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be

 

           16              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           18                      MS. EVANS:  Second.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           20              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           24              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F.  FOR INTRODUCTION -


 

 

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            1              A RESOLUTION - APPOINTMENT OF RALPH A.

 

            2              SCARTELLI, 1208 RUNDLE STREET, SCRANTON,

 

            3              PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS A MEMBER OF THE

 

            4              HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD FOR AN

 

            5              ADDITIONAL FIVE (5) YEAR TERM. MR.

 

            6              SCARTELLI'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRES ON OCTOBER

 

            7              11, 2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON

 

            8              OCTOBER 11, 2014.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           10              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be

 

           11              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS:  Second.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           15              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           19              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO

 

           21              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A.

 

           22              FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC

 

           23              SAFETY - FOR ADOPTION -  FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           24              81, 2009 - ESTABLISHING PERMIT PARKING ONLY

 

           25              IN THE 700 BLOCK OF EAST OLIVE STREET FROM


 

 

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            1              MADISON AVENUE TO MOIR COURT.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the

 

            3              recommendation of the Chair for the

 

            4              Committee on Public Safety?

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Chair for the

 

            6              Committee on Public Safety, I recommend

 

            7              final passage of Item 7-A.

 

            8                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           10              call, please?

 

           11                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           12                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           13                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.

 

           14              Fanucci.  Mr. Courtright.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           16                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mr. McGoff.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

           18              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.

 

           19                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B.  FOR CONSIDERATION

 

           20              BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -

 

           21              FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 84, 2009

 

           22              - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 49, 2006 AS

 

           23              AMENDED ENTITLED, "AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING

 

           24              THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS OF

 

           25              THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY


 

 

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            1              ACTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE CONSOLIDATED

 

            2              SUBMISSION FOR COMMUNITY PLANNING AND

 

            3              DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE

 

            4              COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG)

 

            5              PROGRAM, HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP (HOME)

 

            6              PROGRAM AND EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT (ESG)

 

            7              PROGRAM", BY TRANSFERRING $241,000.00 FROM

 

            8              PROJECT 07-225 SLIBCO TO PROJECT 05-154

 

            9              FRIENDSHIP HOUSE.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the

 

           11              recommendation of the Temporary Chairperson

 

           12              for the Committee on Community Development?

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: As Temporary Chair

 

           14              for the Committee on Community Development,

 

           15              I recommend final passage of Item 7-B.

 

           16                      MR. EVANS: Second.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           18              call, please?

 

           19                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Evans.

 

           20                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           21                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.

 

           22              Fanucci.  Mr. Courtright.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           24                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mr. McGoff.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


 

 

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            1              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.

 

            2                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION -

 

            3              BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -

 

            4              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 175, 2009 -

 

            5              AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

            6              CITY OFFICIALS FOR THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO

 

            7              ENTER INTO A SUBORDINATION AGREEMENT TO

 

            8              SUBORDINATE ITS RECORDED MORTGAGE DATED MAY

 

            9              1, 2006 IN THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF

 

           10              $250,000.00, SECURED UPON THE HISTORIC GAR

 

           11              BUILDING LOCATED AT 305 LINDEN STREET,

 

           12              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA (THE "PROPERTY"), TO

 

           13              A FIRST MORTGAGE IN THE AMOUNT OF

 

           14              $800,000.00 THAT DTK VENTURES, L.P. INTENDS

 

           15              TO GRANT TO FIRST LIBERTY BANK AND TRUST ON

 

           16              THE PROPERTY.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the

 

           18              recommendation of the Temporary Chair for

 

           19              the Committee on Community Development?

 

           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Temporary Chair

 

           21              for the Committee on Community Development,

 

           22              I recommend final passage of Item 7-C.

 

           23                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: A few short months ago


 

 

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            1              council considered similar legislation to

 

            2              subordinate a loan for Mr. Brian Murray of

 

            3              Murray Insurance who has since lost his

 

            4              Pennsylvania license to provide insurance.

 

            5              Just as I advised and voted against that

 

            6              loan subordination agreement, I again oppose

 

            7              tonight's legislation to subordinate the

 

            8              city to a second position on yet another

 

            9              loan agreement.

 

           10                      The city should be paid in full just

 

           11              as the bank is being paid in full.  The city

 

           12              has made too many errors in judgment when

 

           13              awarding business loans and subordinating

 

           14              it's position for repayment of loans.  It

 

           15              can ill-afford to risk nonpayment again,

 

           16              particularly in light of several recent

 

           17              loans that have defaulted, become delinquent

 

           18              or seen bankruptcy.  I will be voting "no."

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  This is a refinancing

 

           20              of the loan.  The people that had the

 

           21              original loan have been paying on it, the

 

           22              there is reasonable expectation that they

 

           23              will continue to pay on the loan, and a

 

           24              reasonable expectation that it will be

 

           25              benefit to the community.  I think that


 

 

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            1              looking at this in light of something that

 

            2              happened in the past is doing a disservice.

 

            3              We should look at this in it's -- as a

 

            4              singularity rather than part of something

 

            5              that is tied to disparate other loans.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: Well, I can look at it in

 

            7              it's singularity and I would say since the

 

            8              individuals are receiving a loan from a

 

            9              second bank and repaying their loan from the

 

           10              original bank and just carrying the city

 

           11              over as part of their loan payments and in

 

           12              the mean time they have increased

 

           13              significantly the dollar amount that is

 

           14              being borrowed from the original loan to the

 

           15              second loan, I believe this new loan will be

 

           16              for $800,000, and certainly the city could

 

           17              have been paid in full and the city should

 

           18              have been paid in full just as the bank, the

 

           19              first bank was paid in full.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else?  Roll

 

           21              call, please?

 

           22                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Evans?

 

           23                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           24                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Gatelli.  Mrs.

 

           25              Fanucci.  Mr. Courtright.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No.

 

            2                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. McGoff.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.  Item 7-C is

 

            4              defeated.

 

            5                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION

 

            6              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -

 

            7              RESOLUTION NO. 176, 2009 - AUTHORIZING THE

 

            8              MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS

 

            9              TO EXECUTE A MUSIC PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT FOR

 

           10              LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES WITH BROADCAST

 

           11              MUSIC, INC. ("BMI") TO LICENSE THE

 

           12              PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC EVENTS IN THE CITY OF

 

           13              SCRANTON FOR A FLAT ANNUAL FEE.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chair for the

 

           15              Committee on Rules, I recommend final

 

           16              passage of Item 7-D.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll

 

           19              call, please?

 

           20                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Evans.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: Yes.

 

           22                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Gatelli.  Mrs.

 

           23              Fanucci.  Mr. Courtright.

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.

 

           25                      MS. MAGNOTTA: Mr. McGoff.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.  I hereby declare

 

            2              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Motion to adjourn.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Thank you

 

            5              for your participation.

 

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            5        I hereby certify that the proceedings and

 

            6   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

            7   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

            8   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

            9   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

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