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            1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7                   Tuesday, July 7, 2009

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                    Council Chambers

 

           11                   Scranton City Hall

 

           12               340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                   Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

 

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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                MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and

 

            2              moment of reflection observed.)

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please?

 

            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.

 

            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Here.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.

 

           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Dispense with the

 

           15              reading of the minutes.

 

           16                      MS. GARVEY: There is no business in

 

           17              Third Order.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: I'd like to make a

 

           19              motion to suspend the rules and to move -- I

 

           20              don't know how to word this properly, I'd

 

           21              like to suspend the rules and we will have a

 

           22              citizens' participation on agenda items only

 

           23              in Fourth Order, and then move to 5-B, and

 

           24              then we'll have citizens' participation

 

           25              again after the business portion.  Sorry.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: All in favor.

 

            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            8              ayes have it and so moved.  Anything from

 

            9              council?  Please.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: Please remember in your

 

           11              prayers all those who have died in the last

 

           12              week, particularly Kay Travato, a beautiful

 

           13              and courageous woman who I had the great

 

           14              pleasure of knowing and her loving family

 

           15              and friends she leaves behind, especially

 

           16              her faithful companion, Walter David.

 

           17                      The Immaculate Conception Church

 

           18              picnic will be held Thursday, Friday,

 

           19              Saturday June, 9th 10th and 11th in East

 

           20              Scranton.

 

           21                      The Kids Swim Free Program continues

 

           22              to accept donations for children to swim at

 

           23              Nay Aug Park swim complex free of charge

 

           24              this summer.  You have may mail donations

 

           25              to:  Kids Swim Free Program, 1416 South


 

 

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            1              Webster Avenue, Scranton, Pennsylvania,

 

            2              18505.

 

            3                      And to city residents who were

 

            4              concerned about the sidewalk drop off

 

            5              between Buona Pizza and the new development

 

            6              it was taken care of.  I saw the improvement

 

            7              last week as I drove by the 500 block of

 

            8              Lackawanna Avenue, and that's it.

 

            9                      MR COURTRIGHT:  I'd just like to say

 

           10              that today is my daughter Lindsey's birthday

 

           11              and I'd just like to wish her a happy

 

           12              birthday, if I may.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Happy birthday.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Anything else?

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI: I just have two items

 

           16              to make everyone aware that the block grant

 

           17              applications are now available and they are

 

           18              due on August 7, as well as the emergency

 

           19              shelter grant applications.  And that's all

 

           20              I have.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  We will now

 

           22              have citizens' participation on agenda

 

           23              items.  Anyone wishing to speak.

 

           24                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I didn't understand

 

           25              you quite what you were saying, I still


 

 

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            1              don't, but that's okay, but your lawyer can

 

            2              check and see we have a -- we have a

 

            3              stipulation from the Courts saying this is

 

            4              an open forum and anything you want to speak

 

            5              up or anything with the city can be done.

 

            6              You cannot suspend that, okay?

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Nobody has.

 

            8                      MR. SBARAGLIA: What did you just

 

            9              say?

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI:  You're going to have

 

           11              two opportunities to talk, Andy.

 

           12                      MR. SBARAGALIA: Oh, is that what you

 

           13              were saying because it's a little confusing

 

           14              there.

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI:  The first time you can

 

           16              talk about agenda only, and the second time

 

           17              your five minutes or whatever you want.

 

           18                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Okay.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  It's being done for me

 

           20              because I'm working and I might not be able

 

           21              to stay for the whole meeting.

 

           22                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Okay.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI: And I thank my

 

           24              colleagues for allowing me to participate in

 

           25              the meeting because I'm working during the


 

 

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            1              daytime for the summer, and they have been

 

            2              so kind as to accommodate me.  If anyone has

 

            3              any questions for me and I have to leave

 

            4              early, please feel free to call my home, my

 

            5              number is in the book, and I again thank my

 

            6              colleagues for being so cooperative.

 

            7                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Okay.  Now that we

 

            8              know what you are doing, I was a little

 

            9              confused there because you were saying you

 

           10              were suspending.  Okay.  Well, I am going

 

           11              go -- go to your 7-D, this insurance policy

 

           12              for the slide at Nay Aug.  Now, you all know

 

           13              what the stipulation said.  There is no

 

           14              question about that.  The other question is

 

           15              why wasn't this put on the regular

 

           16              insurance?  What's the reasoning behind it?

 

           17              Did any of you ever question the mayor?

 

           18              What's the reason behind the separate

 

           19              insurance?

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: No one has asked the

 

           21              city to get separate insurance.  A

 

           22              supplemental policy because the water slide

 

           23              is considered an amusement ride and that

 

           24              there are only certain carriers that cover

 

           25              amusements rides.


 

 

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            1                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I realize that, but

 

            2              now you got a stipulation in there.  What is

 

            3              the rating on this company and have you

 

            4              asked for the rating?

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: "A" plus.

 

            6                      MR. SBARAGLIA: It's an "A" plus

 

            7              rating?  Okay, I guess they have been in

 

            8              business awhile, but that stipulation

 

            9              worries me.  I don't know why, maybe because

 

           10              of AIG.  That worries me.  Well, since we

 

           11              can only go to agenda items we might as well

 

           12              go through them, we got plenty of time to go

 

           13              through them.  You are looking for a grant

 

           14              on this for Battaglia Field I think it was,

 

           15              the old Oxford Plot, something with the

 

           16              parking lot, $50,000 for a parking lot?

 

           17              $20,000?

 

           18                      MS. GATELLI: $20,000.

 

           19                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Let me read, 25,

 

           20              okay.  Purchase a gazebo.  Sight work at

 

           21              Connors Park, now we want a gazebo up there,

 

           22              okay.  And, well, mainly that's about it.

 

           23              There isn't much on it that you can really

 

           24              get into with it.  It's very cut and dry

 

           25              other than the grants.  Oh, there you go,


 

 

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            1              it's in the first, $20,000.  Another

 

            2              $25,000.  Okay.  We'll get you.

 

            3                      MR. QUINN:  Good morning, Ozzie

 

            4              Quinn, Taxpayers' Association.  7-D, Knowles

 

            5              contract.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: 6-d.

 

            7                      MR. QUINN: 6-D.

 

            8                      MS. GATELLI: 6-D I think it is.

 

            9                      MS. QUINN:  Well, okay, six D.

 

           10                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D.

 

           11                      MR. QUINN:  7-D.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Seven.

 

           13                      MR. QUINN: 7-D; right?

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.

 

           15                      MR. QUINN:  I thought maybe you had

 

           16              two contracts.  The clock is running.  Okay.

 

           17              I studied sociology in college and a lot of

 

           18              people probably studied -- maybe you did

 

           19              study sociology or history, but in the late

 

           20              19 and early 20th century there is what they

 

           21              call the social gospel, and it was related

 

           22              to what you would call now social injustice,

 

           23              and actually what it meant is that your

 

           24              budget should be more or less leaning to low

 

           25              income people, okay?  And through the years


 

 

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            1              through greed, especially now, you see a lot

 

            2              of that, and that's really knocked out a lot

 

            3              of the poor people from receiving things

 

            4              that they should receive.

 

            5                      Now, why I bring the Knowell's

 

            6              contract up is because of the fact there is

 

            7              a contract that's coming out and it's an

 

            8              exceptional contract, but there was no RFP,

 

            9              was there?  How much is the contract?  There

 

           10              is nothing that I know.  I don't know.  I

 

           11              mean, we are throwing money away and we have

 

           12              a 2.5 hole in the budget.  The other thing

 

           13              is that I don't know if you knew it, but I

 

           14              know it because I live close to Nay Aug down

 

           15              and by Bunker Hill, they had fireworks up

 

           16              there on June 27 and they lasted 45 minutes

 

           17              by a professional person, okay, and they

 

           18              outdo the Scranton Stadium fireworks and

 

           19              everybody else's.  Is that five minutes?

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Only three.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Three.

 

           22                      MR. QUINN:  Well, anyway, what I

 

           23              want to say is that this money we have

 

           24              people who are going around with property

 

           25              owners, foreclosure, leaky roof, electric


 

 

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            1              problems and Doherty continues --

 

            2              Mr. Doherty continues to be an elitist and

 

            3              that's what the social injustice is all

 

            4              about, getting away from spending that money

 

            5              just for the elitist.  Applying it to the

 

            6              social gospel, the people that need it.  We

 

            7              are $170 million in debt and if you start

 

            8              giving out things and RFP's and what you are

 

            9              doing and council should be on top of this

 

           10              and stop it.  $170 million.  Thank you.

 

           11                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Marie Schumacher,

 

           12              resident and member of the Taxpayers'

 

           13              Association.  On 5-C, is this in addition to

 

           14              the grant that supposedly if the caption

 

           15              under the picture was right in today's paper

 

           16              was from the county for a gazebo and related

 

           17              site work.  If it's not and it's a

 

           18              duplication of what the county has given is

 

           19              this going to be a $50,000 gazebo?

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm not sure I

 

           21              understand.

 

           22                      MS. GATELLI:  The account in today's

 

           23              paper was Billy Barrett Park.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: It was a different

 

           25              park.


 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI:  It's a different park.

 

            2                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Connors.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: No, was --

 

            4                      MS. SCHUMACHER: There's a picture --

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI: Was Janet in the

 

            6              picture and me?

 

            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Yeah.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Then it was Billy

 

            9              Barrett Park.

 

           10                      MS. SCHUMACHER: No, I don't believe

 

           11              you were.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI: Well, they told me I

 

           13              was in there, someone at work told me, and

 

           14              it's Billy Barrett Park, not this park.

 

           15                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Do you have copy?

 

           16              Okay, I didn't bring the picture.

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI: Yeah, it's from Billy

 

           18              Barrett Park on Colliery Avenue in Minooka.

 

           19                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And what is this

 

           20              gazebo going to consist of?  Twenty-give

 

           21              grand sounds like a lot.  I can go up to

 

           22              Hamlin and see where they make gazebos and

 

           23              sheds and they are lot less expensive than

 

           24              $25,000.

 

           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  There is more than


 

 

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            1              just the gazebo.  There is -- I don't know

 

            2              what to read the whole thing to you, but

 

            3              there is what they are calling site work.

 

            4              It's not 25 grand just for the gazebo.

 

            5                      MS. SCHUMACHER: They did site work

 

            6              last year.  How many times are we going to

 

            7              pay for the same thing?

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know.

 

            9                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And then the other

 

           10              thing on 7-B, will this -- is this the final

 

           11              purchase that is needed to comply with 2008

 

           12              legislation or is there more to come?

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't know.

 

           14                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Sad.  Thank you.

 

           15                      MR. SPINDLER: Les Spindler, Scranton

 

           16              homeowner, taxpayer.  They want to give

 

           17              Knowells the insurance policy on the slide,

 

           18              it's funny Knowells contributed $2,750 to

 

           19              Mayor Doherty's campaign and now you want to

 

           20              give them the contract for the insurance on

 

           21              the slide.  Sounds like payment for them

 

           22              contributing to Mayor Doherty's campaign

 

           23              pain to me.  Why don't we give to someone

 

           24              else that is more deserving of it.  As

 

           25              Mrs. Fanucci said, it sounds like Scranton


 

 

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            1              politics at it's worst to me.  Thank you.

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: That was about the

 

            3              school board though, Les, let's just clarify

 

            4              that.

 

            5                      MR. SPINDLER: Yeah, I know.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Thank you.

 

            7              Go to 5-B.

 

            8                      MS. GARVEY: 5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

            9              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           10              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO ENTER

 

           11              INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF

 

           12              PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND

 

           13              ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ("DCED") FOR THE

 

           14              COMMUNITY CONSERVATION AND EMPLOYMENT

 

           15              PROGRAM CONTRACT NUMBER C000043365 TO

 

           16              RECEIVE A $20,000.00 GRANT TO MAKE UPGRADES

 

           17              TO BATTAGLIA FIELD'S PARKING LOT.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

           20              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question, I

 

           25              don't think 20,000 is even going to touch


 

 

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            1              what they need to do to that parking lot to

 

            2              be honest with you.  My hope is that they

 

            3              put in for CDBG money this year and they get

 

            4              it because it needs an awful lot of work

 

            5              down there.  I think, as we all know, West

 

            6              Scranton High School doesn't have an actual

 

            7              field that they play in and that's where

 

            8              they play, and I believe at one time they

 

            9              told me when they have a tournament maybe 11

 

           10              or 13 different states come down there and

 

           11              play ball there, so I hope to see them get

 

           12              much more money.  It needs a lot of work

 

           13              down there.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the

 

           15              question?  All those in favor signify by

 

           16              saying aye.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           22              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           23                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           24              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           25              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO ENTER


 

 

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            1              INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF

 

            2              PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND

 

            3              ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ("DCED") FOR THE

 

            4              COMMUNITY CONSERVATION EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM

 

            5              CONTRACT NUMBER C000043366 TO RECEIVE A

 

            6              $25,000.00 GRANT FOR THE PURCHASE AND

 

            7              INSTALLATION OF A GAZEBO AND RELATED SITE

 

            8              WORK AT ORCHARD STREET PLAYGROUND (CONNORS

 

            9              PARK).

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           11              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be

 

           12              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           16              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           22              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           23                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           24              A RESOLUTION - APPOINTMENT OF THELMA

 

           25              WHEELER, 1001 JACKSON STREET, APARTMENT 303,


 

 

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            1              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS A MEMBER

 

            2              OF THE BOARD OF THE SCRANTON HOUSING

 

            3              AUTHORITY.  MS. WHEELER WILL FILL THE

 

            4              UNEXPIRED TERM OF BOARD MEMBER JANE MCCARTHY

 

            5              WHO PASSED AWAY ON JUNE 15, 2009.  MS.

 

            6              WHEELER'S TERM WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 27,

 

            7              2013.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

            9              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be

 

           10              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           14              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           15                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           20              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           21                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO

 

           22              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A.

 

           23              FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC

 

           24              SAFETY - FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           25              73, 2009 - REMOVAL OF PARKING METERS LOCATED


 

 

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            1              IN THE 700 BLOCK OF QUINCY AVENUE, BETWEEN

 

            2              GIBSON AND PINE STREETS, AND IN THE 900 AND

 

            3              1000 BLOCKS OF PINE STREET BETWEEN MONROE

 

            4              AVENUE AND COSTELLO COURT, AS MORE

 

            5              PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE CORRESPONDENCE

 

            6              AND ON THE DIAGRAM FROM MOSES TAYLOR

 

            7              HOSPITAL ATTACHED HERETO AND THEREAFTER, TO

 

            8              INSTITUTE DAILY PERMIT PARKING FOR MOSES

 

            9              TAYLOR HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the

 

           11              recommendation of the Chair for the

 

           12              Committee on Public Safety?

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Chairperson for

 

           14              the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend

 

           15              final passage of Item 7-A.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           18              call, please?

 

           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           20                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           22                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

            4              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.

 

            5                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION

 

            6              BY THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE - FOR ADOPTION -

 

            7              RESOLUTION NO. 158, 2009  AUTHORIZING THE

 

            8              MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS

 

            9              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A PUBLIC ENTITY

 

           10              INSTALLMENT PAYMENT AGREEMENT WITH DELL

 

           11              FINANCIAL SERVICES, L.L.C. TO PURCHASE

 

           12              DATOSPHERE SOFTWARE THROUGH THE STATE

 

           13              SOFTWARE CONTRACT WITH DELL/ASAP CONTRACT

 

           14              NUMBER 581010 WITH ANNUAL PAYMENTS OVER A

 

           15              THREE YEAR PERIOD.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the

 

           17              recommendation of the Chairperson for the

 

           18              Committee on Finance?

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  As Chair for the

 

           20              Committee on Finance, I recommend final

 

           21              passage of Item 7-B.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           24              call, please?

 

           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

           10              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.

 

           11                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION

 

           12              BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -

 

           13              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 159, 2009 -

 

           14              AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

           15              CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AND ACCEPT A GRANT

 

           16              THROUGH THE PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF

 

           17              CONSERVATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES ("DCNR")

 

           18              IN THE AMOUNT OF $8,510.00; SINCE THE

 

           19              APPLICATION WAS SUCCESSFUL, EXECUTING THE

 

           20              GRANT AGREEMENT (GRANT CONTRACT) WITH

 

           21              LACKAWANNA HERITAGE VALLEY AUTHORITY

 

           22              ("LHVA") AND ACCEPTING AND DISBURSING THE

 

           23              USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT TO BE

 

           24              NAMED AS "TREEVITALIZE" METROS PROGRAM.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the


 

 

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            1              recommendation of the Chair for the

 

            2              Committee on Community Development.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the

 

            4              Committee on Community Development, I

 

            5              recommend final passage of Item 7-C.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

            8              call, please?

 

            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

           19              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D.  FOR CONSIDERATION

 

           21              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -

 

           22              RESOLUTION NO. 160, 2009 - AUTHORIZING THE

 

           23              MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS

 

           24              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH

 

           25              KNOWLES ASSOCIATES L.L.C. FOR INSURANCE WITH


 

 

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            1              NAUTILUS INSURANCE COMPANY FOR CITY

 

            2              INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE PERIOD JUNE 12,

 

            3              2009 THROUGH JUNE 12, 2010.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  As Chair for the

 

            5              Committee on Rules, I recommend final

 

            6              passage of Item 7-D.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  I know to my

 

           10              knowledge that Knowles Associates has had a

 

           11              contract with the city for insurance for

 

           12              several years now and I also believe that

 

           13              they serve as a body that will seek certain

 

           14              types of information -- or certain types of

 

           15              insurance coverage from various insurance

 

           16              companies and I'm certain that's how

 

           17              Nautilus would have been selected, through

 

           18              Knowles.

 

           19                      Now, it's certainly not the ideal

 

           20              situation, as we discussed at council last

 

           21              week, there are viable problems with

 

           22              Nautilus insurance, however, the swimming

 

           23              season has already begun and I think it is

 

           24              very foolish for the city to be uninsured

 

           25              this point.  We can hope that next year


 

 

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            1              proper measures will be taken well in

 

            2              advance of swim season, but for now I do

 

            3              believe the best course of action is for the

 

            4              city to be insured, so I'll be voting "yes."

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: I'd just also comment

 

            6              that I am told that this supplemental

 

            7              insurance was put out to bid, that there

 

            8              were three companies than submitted a bid,

 

            9              all of them were from out-of-state because

 

           10              there was no company in state that did this

 

           11              type of insurance on amusement parks and

 

           12              that they chose Nautilus because it was the

 

           13              best bid and the best company that was

 

           14              available.  Roll call, please?

 

           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           18                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

           25              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.  By


 

 

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            1              agreement we are now going to go back to

 

            2              citizens' participation, and I don't have

 

            3              the sheet.

 

            4                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I'm first on there.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr.

 

            6              Sbaraglia.  There is not many people to

 

            7              fight with either.

 

            8                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I think there was

 

            9              only three on the list.  Let's go back to

 

           10              this Nautilus.  You know, we have another

 

           11              amusement park at Nay Aug, did anybody ask

 

           12              who covers their insurance?

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Isn't that private,

 

           14              a private --

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI:  I think it's private

 

           16              insurance.  He has his own insurance because

 

           17              he leases the property.

 

           18                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I don't care, he has

 

           19              insurance on an amusement park, that means

 

           20              he is getting covered somewhere.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: He is paying

 

           22              probably for the coverage because it's his

 

           23              own personal --

 

           24                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  You telling me he is

 

           25              going to cover a million dollars liability?


 

 

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            1              He must have liability insurance.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Oh, yeah.  Yeah.

 

            3                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Did you ever check?

 

            4              That's what we are buying.  Did you ever

 

            5              check if he is doing out-of-state, too?

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI: But, Andy, we put it

 

            7              out to bid.

 

            8                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I don't know care

 

            9              where he is doing it, is he doing

 

           10              out-of-state insurance?  Nautilus putting

 

           11              this out, they are acting as a broker, they

 

           12              are getting a commission, am I right or

 

           13              wrong?

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Absolutely.

 

           15                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Okay, that answers my

 

           16              question.  Okay, let's go back.  Let's go

 

           17              back to the mayor's campaign.  $600,000 plus

 

           18              spent on a primary, a huge amount of money,

 

           19              most of it coming from outside of Scranton.

 

           20              Doesn't that raise any flags at all with you

 

           21              that anybody would spend -- well, some

 

           22              people don't care about anything, but it

 

           23              should raise flags if you have any

 

           24              reasonable mind, it would raise flags with

 

           25              me.  How are they going to get paid back


 

 

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            1              $600,000 because people don't do it because

 

            2              they love you, and if you think that then

 

            3              you are living in Alice in Wonderland World.

 

            4              They give you money because they expect

 

            5              something back, one way or another, and so

 

            6              it is with Scranton.  Scranton is for sale.

 

            7              Give enough money you can get anything.

 

            8                      You complained about the KOZ's, I

 

            9              think the county okayed 22, I believe that

 

           10              was it, city seven, school board one, and

 

           11              there was crying in the streets of -- I

 

           12              guess it is of Scranton or in Mudville.  I

 

           13              guess Mudville would be more likely apt to

 

           14              what happened, the mighty Casey has struck

 

           15              out and so was the KOZ's.  The school board

 

           16              KO'd most of them, which was probably a good

 

           17              thing for the city, but you were giving a

 

           18              KOZ for a Turkey Hill and a bank and you saw

 

           19              nothing wrong with giving the KOZ to a

 

           20              Turkey Hill because that's a great thing for

 

           21              the city to give them so many years -- and

 

           22              you can shake your head all you want, but

 

           23              Turkey Hill has put application to put the

 

           24              tanks in there already and they already went

 

           25              through zoning, so Turkey Hill is going to


 

 

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            1              be there.  Thank you.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Ozzie Quinn.  Les

 

            3              Spindler.

 

            4                      MR. SPINDLER:  Morning, Council.

 

            5              Les Spindler, city owner -- homeowner,

 

            6              taxpayer.  I'm on vacation this week, that's

 

            7              why I'm here, so I'm going to express my

 

            8              gratitude to the Scranton School Board.

 

            9              Kudos to the Scranton School Board,

 

           10              especially Chris Phillips.  They did what

 

           11              was right for the taxpayers.  They couldn't

 

           12              in good conscience give the taxpayers a 6

 

           13              percent tax hike and turn around and give

 

           14              millionaires a free ride, whereas

 

           15              Mrs. Gatelli, Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Fanucci

 

           16              don't have a conscience since they whacked

 

           17              the citizens with a 25 percent tax hike, and

 

           18              yet voted to give millionaires a tax break.

 

           19                      And poor Austin Burke, he said

 

           20              Scranton is going to lose out on all of

 

           21              these jobs.  Well, if Austin Burke did his

 

           22              job we couldn't be losing out on all these

 

           23              jobs.  It's his job to sell our city and he

 

           24              shouldn't need KOZ's to help him do it.  If

 

           25              he can't do his job without KOZ's maybe we


 

 

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            1              need a new president of the Chamber of

 

            2              Commerce.

 

            3                      Mrs. Fanucci stated that that was

 

            4              Scranton politics at it's worst.  No,

 

            5              Mrs. Fanucci, Scranton politics at it's

 

            6              worst what you being elected for four years

 

            7              as Chris Doherty's puppet.  And Mrs. Fanucci

 

            8              also stated about the school board giving

 

            9              out jobs, well, nobody gave out more jobs

 

           10              than your mayor, Chris Doherty.  The Sewer

 

           11              Authority has doubled or tripled since he

 

           12              took over and just a few weeks before the

 

           13              election he gave ten people from West

 

           14              Scranton jobs just to get votes from West

 

           15              Side, so nobody is giving more jobs than

 

           16              your mayor, so don't be a hypocrite.

 

           17                      Next thing, did your solicitor call

 

           18              Attorney Chris Cullen yet about the stolen

 

           19              signs?

 

           20                      MR. MINORA: I wrote him a letter.

 

           21              He hasn't responded.

 

           22                      MR. SPINDLER: Okay.  Thank you.

 

           23              Okay --

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Just for the record,

 

           25              Les, I had about 150 signs stolen, so it is


 

 

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            1              a thing that happens during elections.

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: And I had some stolen

 

            3              and they put the firehouse signs in their

 

            4              place.

 

            5                      MR. SPINDLER: Charges were filed

 

            6              here and they have two people on videotape

 

            7              that did it and they are both city

 

            8              employees.  One is a Scranton police officer

 

            9              and one is a housing director, I won't say

 

           10              their names yet, but I will.

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI: Maybe you should go to

 

           12              Andy Jarbola --

 

           13                      MR. SPINDLER: Don't use my time up,

 

           14              please.

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI: -- and see if he'll

 

           16              file charges.

 

           17                      MR. SPINDLER: Charges are filed by

 

           18              the DiBileo campaign and a gentleman on

 

           19              Harrison Avenue.  Like I said about the

 

           20              Aroma Cafe giving out fliers or giving out

 

           21              free paninis to vote for Chris Doherty, may

 

           22              I approach, Mr. McGoff?

 

           23                      (Mr. Spindler hands council members

 

           24              papers.)

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Time flies when you


 

 

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            1              are having fun, Les.

 

            2                      MR. SPINDLER:  That was not five

 

            3              minutes.  Now, Judge Nealon called -- Judge

 

            4              Nealon called them and told them this was

 

            5              illegal.  Chris Doherty should have charges

 

            6              against him for doing this.  He tried to buy

 

            7              votes, and as I said, Judge Nealon said it's

 

            8              illegal, so somebody should -- you people

 

            9              should go to the DA and have charges brought

 

           10              against this man.  He is the most corrupt

 

           11              mayor we have ever had in this city.

 

           12                      Oh, next thing, in Wilkes-Barre a

 

           13              week or so ago, maybe you heard about it,

 

           14              two pitbulls attacked a gentleman walking

 

           15              his dog on the new river common there and

 

           16              the dog was bitten up so bad it had to be

 

           17              put down.  Now, that was in Wilkes-Barre,

 

           18              but again, it just brings up another example

 

           19              of what viscous dogs they are and I brought

 

           20              this up about four years ago and still

 

           21              nothing has been done, so we need dangerous

 

           22              dog legislation in this city before

 

           23              something tragic really happens.

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI: Les, did you know that

 

           25              the state enacted stronger legislation with


 

 

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            1              the dogs and that's why we didn't do

 

            2              anything here.  I met with Tom Preambo and

 

            3              Beth Thursby, you know Beth, she used to

 

            4              have the dog in Scranton?

 

            5                      MR. SPINDLER: Yeah.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI:  And now she has a

 

            7              service where she trains dogs and we met on

 

            8              numerous occasions.  As a matter of fact, I

 

            9              invited you to come to my home.

 

           10                      MR. SPINDLER: It's not up to me to

 

           11              pass it, it's up to you to pass it, not me.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI: It was people that were

 

           13              involved and concerned about the issue.  You

 

           14              know that I did that because I told you.

 

           15                      MR. SPINDLER:  I am very concerned,

 

           16              but it's your job to pass legislation, not

 

           17              me.

 

           18                      MS. GATELLI:  And they said that you

 

           19              can't --

 

           20                      MR. SPINDLER: I have more stuff -

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI: -- supercede the state.

 

           22                      MR. SPINDLER: I have more stuff to

 

           23              talk about.  Some of my time was used up

 

           24              Mr. McGoff.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Don't ask questions.


 

 

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            1                      MR. SPINDLER: I didn't ask

 

            2              questions.  Okay, lastly, does anyone know

 

            3              when National Night Out is this year?

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: It's usually the first

 

            5              Tuesday in August, but I haven't heard yet.

 

            6                      MR. SPINDLER:  Okay.  Thank you.

 

            7              And see you in  --

 

            8                      MS. GATELLI: It will probably be --

 

            9                      MR. SPINDLER: See you in September.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI:  -- August 4, I think.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.

 

           12                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Marie Schumacher.

 

           13              The response to Andy's question makes me

 

           14              wonder, as Andy has pointed out in the past,

 

           15              the City of Scranton and we taxpayers are

 

           16              paying the insurance on the Ice Box

 

           17              property, and when he questioned that he was

 

           18              told it was because it was leased, so why

 

           19              the difference between the Ice Box property

 

           20              and the amusements at Nay Aug Park.  I see

 

           21              no difference if it's a lease, so --

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think the

 

           23              gentleman that has the rides up there has

 

           24              insurance on his equipment, that's my

 

           25              belief.  Like, if you are on his ride he has


 

 

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            1              got the coverage on that.  I don't know that

 

            2              he has the coverage on the ground.

 

            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Well -- I mean,

 

            4              well -- where -- did we pay -- according to

 

            5              Andy I believe we are paying the insurance

 

            6              on the buildings at the Ice Box, but perhaps

 

            7              you could check that out and let us know in

 

            8              motions next week.

 

            9                      I would also like to know if the

 

           10              city responded to the RFP for the OECD

 

           11              office space that was due by July 2 and if

 

           12              not was there only one bidder the same that

 

           13              responded to the one week RFP?  Do we know

 

           14              where OECD is going to be staying or going?

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI: We haven't heard

 

           16              anything.

 

           17                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Okay, because that

 

           18              bid opening was to be on the second of July.

 

           19              Next, Mr. Burke at the 27th of June school

 

           20              board meeting said he would have the deed to

 

           21              the currently leased property in 25 years,

 

           22              he couldn't explain anymore, but I would

 

           23              like to know and ask once again is what is

 

           24              the basis for that claim and what does the

 

           25              city owe Mr. Burke to collect our $600,000


 

 

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            1              in rent?  Do we not have an answer to that

 

            2              yet after all of these months?

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI:  Our solicitor answered

 

            4              I think on at least three occasions.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: He doesn't have the

 

            6              requisites --

 

            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  No -

 

            8                      MS. GATELLI: Amil, haven't you

 

            9              answered that question at least three times?

 

           10                      MR. MINORA:  I've answered it

 

           11              several times, and I'll answer again for

 

           12              probably the fourth or fifth time.  I spoke

 

           13              to Attorney --

 

           14                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Greco.

 

           15                      MR. MINORA: -- Greco who explained

 

           16              to me that there was several prerequisites

 

           17              before the trigger to pay the $600,000

 

           18              occurred.  Those prerequisites have not been

 

           19              met.  I don't know how else to explain it

 

           20              any further.

 

           21                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Because that's what

 

           22              I'm asking.  Which prerequisites haven't

 

           23              been met?  I brought the agreement, I bought

 

           24              it under the Right-to-Know, I listed what

 

           25              they were, I have checked them off and I


 

 

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            1              don't understand and I'd like to know which

 

            2              specifically of those prerequisites have not

 

            3              been met because according to the research I

 

            4              have done they have all been met, so I'm

 

            5              looking for something specific, not that the

 

            6              prerequisites --

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Could we please send a

 

            8              letter to Attorney Greco and ask him what

 

            9              prerequisites haven't been met.

 

           10                      MR. MINORA:  I'll ask him again.

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI:  And tell him to put it

 

           12              in writing.

 

           13                      MS. SCHUMACHER: But the

 

           14              Redevelopment Authority has nothing to do

 

           15              with it.  The agreement is between the city

 

           16              and the Ice Box, so I don't know why

 

           17              Mr. Greco --

 

           18                      MR. MINORA: That is not correct by

 

           19              the way.  The Redevelopment Authority does

 

           20              have something to do with it.

 

           21                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Okay, and I'd like

 

           22              to know with about this -- if this rental or

 

           23              if this lease converts to an ownership in

 

           24              25 years or if Mr. Burke was just making

 

           25              that up.


 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI:  Kay, would you put

 

            2              that in a letter, too, please?

 

            3                      MR. MINORA: I'm going to send a

 

            4              letter.  What Mr. Burke suggested, you would

 

            5              have to ask Mr. Burke.

 

            6                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And the rental

 

            7              registration, how do we -- what's happening

 

            8              -- we seem to put the cart before the horse.

 

            9              There is money put in the budget for two

 

           10              inspectors and the inspectors were hired,

 

           11              but there is no program to execute, so when

 

           12              is that program going to get underway.

 

           13                      MS. GATELLI: I don't know.  I'm as

 

           14              frustrated as you are, Mrs. Schumacher, on

 

           15              that.  I am trying to find out exactly

 

           16              what's going on with it.  We are trying to

 

           17              find someone to register the properties.

 

           18                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Well, you need an

 

           19              RFP.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.

 

           21                      MS. SCHUMACHER: I don't know what's

 

           22              so difficult about that.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI: That rental

 

           24              registration program has been going on since

 

           25              I was the director of Community Development.


 

 

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            1                      MS. SCHUMACHER: I understand that.

 

            2                      MS. GATELLI: It's just not this --

 

            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER: But you changed it.

 

            4              It was changed several years.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI: It was changed two

 

            6              times, Mary Alice Burke changed it --

 

            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER: It was changed to --

 

            8              it's my time.  It was changed to include

 

            9              everybody and the fees were charged and

 

           10              nothing has been done to make sure that

 

           11              those property owners are billed and you

 

           12              know who they are.  I could do that in my

 

           13              spare time.  Thank you.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI: I think you should.  I

 

           15              think it would be great.  Maybe we could do

 

           16              a program where we can have some volunteers

 

           17              come up and spend their time doing something

 

           18              instead of just coming here with their

 

           19              comments.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Ron Ellman.

 

           21                      MR. ELLMAN: Hello, Council.  Ron

 

           22              Ellman, member of the Taxpayers'

 

           23              Association.  Well, I wrote this down in

 

           24              case somebody wants to sue me or something.

 

           25              You join the list.  Men don't back away from


 

 

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            1              their duties, and I believe it's one of our

 

            2              duties is to speak the truth or pass.  Our

 

            3              newspaper it -- it's supposed to stand for

 

            4              truth and good.  In Sundays editorial this

 

            5              newspaper just hit an all time low for big

 

            6              business and against the city, the

 

            7              taxpayers.  This is just a pathetic

 

            8              repugnant disgusting display of their

 

            9              arrogance.  I don't know if you read it or

 

           10              not, it's an advocation to get around what

 

           11              the people and the school board put in print

 

           12              that there is no more KOZ's.  It's done,

 

           13              it's over with, you know, for this period of

 

           14              time and to -- for a newspaper to advocate

 

           15              to get around the law that's just terrible

 

           16              discourse.  They just hit an all time low.

 

           17              I mean, you know, you couldn't -- that's not

 

           18              their duty to keep citing the public, I

 

           19              guess is the word, I don't know.

 

           20                      You know, except for two braindead

 

           21              fools we got a good school board finally

 

           22              after years and years of favoring big

 

           23              business and KOZ's.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Ron, can I can ask you

 

           25              a question?  Can I ask you a question and I


 

 

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            1              want to hold your time.  I hear what you

 

            2              saying about the school board and I

 

            3              understand that you believe what they did,

 

            4              what if you knew that the one project that

 

            5              was passed is located next door to a bar

 

            6              that is owned by one of the school district

 

            7              people?  Do you think that that would be

 

            8              beneficial to the person who owned that bar?

 

            9              I'm thrilled because I wanted the project,

 

           10              but what I'm saying is everything that --

 

           11              everything that seems to being put out there

 

           12              is not always what is --

 

           13                      MR. ELLMAN: I realize you two have

 

           14              your convictions, but bless your souls you

 

           15              were fired for them by the people of this

 

           16              city.

 

           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Agreed.  Agreed.  And

 

           18              I certainly agree with you.

 

           19                      MR. ELLMAN:  And the school board

 

           20              has spoken and the school board represented

 

           21              their decision, and for the newspaper right

 

           22              here, for the newspaper to advocate

 

           23              discourse like this is just beyond

 

           24              comprehension.  You don't do things like

 

           25              that.


 

 

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            1                      MS. FANUCCI: But the county agreed

 

            2              with it.  All over the state people have

 

            3              agreed with it.

 

            4                      MR. ELLMAN: They got more distortion

 

            5              saying they're for the people.  In the

 

            6              paragraph about above it, they are not.  The

 

            7              people is what's -- I don't know how many

 

            8              businesses in town, 10,000 or 20,000,

 

            9              whatever it is, it isn't fair for them to

 

           10              pay taxes and three or 400 not to.  That was

 

           11              the decision of the people when they voted.

 

           12              That was a decision.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Of the school board.

 

           14                      MR. ELLMAN: No, for the people when

 

           15              they voted.  You people were for big

 

           16              business and the city is not.  The city

 

           17              is -- the city is against free -- a free

 

           18              ride for everybody.  We have had enough of

 

           19              it.  A fourth of the city is given away and

 

           20              no taxes and so forth.  It can't go on, you

 

           21              know, it just can't.  There is just a point

 

           22              that we have just reached that point, there

 

           23              is just nothing else to do but to try to get

 

           24              some money from people that aren't paying

 

           25              taxes.  Ask anybody out there.  Make a


 

 

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            1              phone poll.  Enough is enough.  There is

 

            2              just too much dead weight in this city.

 

            3                      Now, you got the college is going to

 

            4              follow the program of the University of

 

            5              Scranton.  They will have 100 houses or more

 

            6              off the rolls pretty soon, you know, let's

 

            7              just say the next ten years.  Mr. Phillips I

 

            8              believe he said there was $26 million in

 

            9              school taxes not paid by the University.

 

           10              That's not a nonprofit, that's a

 

           11              multi-million dollars business making money,

 

           12              and this college is the same thing.  It's

 

           13              time to --

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI:  We went after the

 

           15              University.

 

           16                      MR. ELLMAN: They got dormitories

 

           17              they rent out.  They tore down houses and

 

           18              built dormitories and renting them out, we

 

           19              aren't getting a penny.  It's senseless to

 

           20              keep going on with this.  I could see a

 

           21              hospital, you know, but -- I just got off

 

           22              the subject again like I always do, and I

 

           23              didn't mean anything by my remark.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Ron, if it's nothing

 

           25              you haven't learned I'm not very sensitive.


 

 

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            1                      MR. ELLMAN: You know, when I was at

 

            2              the county, the jail, I met more credible

 

            3              people than are in this city government,

 

            4              that's the truth.  Mr. Burke didn't do

 

            5              nothing but offer a bribe last week to try

 

            6              to get this through.  How can you explain

 

            7              $50,000 any other way except that's a bribe

 

            8              of big business trying to overthrow a

 

            9              decision of the people in the school board.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           11                      MR. ELLMAN: Thank you.

 

           12                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  Good morning, city

 

           13              council.  Once again the Scranton Times is

 

           14              on the attack.  If you don't agree with what

 

           15              the Scranton Times has to say they will

 

           16              persecute you and dig up dirt whether it's

 

           17              true or not.  They have no scruples when it

 

           18              comes to something of this nature.  Just

 

           19              because the Scranton School Board did their

 

           20              duty, which I'm sorry some of you council

 

           21              members wouldn't, they are being persecuted.

 

           22              You notice that I didn't call it the Times-

 

           23              Tribune.  At one time we did have a

 

           24              newspaper in the city that would give you an

 

           25              opposing view.  Now, we only get the


 

 

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            1              Scranton Times with their view.  Thank you.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mrs.

 

            3              Evans?

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: Can I go ahead?

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Oh, sure.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: Excuse me, I'm going to

 

            7              go first, Mrs. Evans allowed me to because I

 

            8              have to go to work.  I only have one

 

            9              comment, I'd like to send a letter to the

 

           10              mayor if we can concerning the downtown

 

           11              streets.  I did read a letter to the editor,

 

           12              I believe it was in this morning's paper or

 

           13              yesterday morning's, about the condition of

 

           14              the streets in the downtown area.  I

 

           15              understand stand that the neighborhoods are

 

           16              going to get some stimulus money from

 

           17              PennDOT and I'm very pleased about that, but

 

           18              the downtown is utterly disgraceful.  I have

 

           19              been down here, Washington is a mess,

 

           20              Jefferson is a mess, over here at Mulberry

 

           21              and Vine -- or Mulberry and Adams your car

 

           22              goes right down into a gully, and there are

 

           23              many, many people in wheelchairs and Jazzies

 

           24              trying to get around in the downtown, that's

 

           25              where most of them live, the elderly that


 

 

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            1              are handicapped, and it's really a very

 

            2              disgraceful situation, so I am imploring the

 

            3              mayor that whatever money he gets to please

 

            4              focus on the downtown.

 

            5                      I also thought that the block of

 

            6              Washington and Adams where the courthouse

 

            7              renovations happened, I thought that the

 

            8              county was going to pay to have the roads

 

            9              redone there because a lot of the damage

 

           10              came from redoing the county, so maybe we

 

           11              can find that out, too.

 

           12                      The only other thing I have to say

 

           13              about the KOZ's is in the Scranton Times, I

 

           14              don't always agree with the Scranton Times

 

           15              myself, and I agree with you they pick and

 

           16              certain people and others they don't pick on

 

           17              at all, you are 100 percent right about

 

           18              that, but when there is an editorial that is

 

           19              exactly what it is.  It is the editor's

 

           20              opinion and if that's what the editor thinks

 

           21              and you don't agree you can respond in the

 

           22              letters to the editor.

 

           23                      I happen to agree with Mr. McKenna

 

           24              on his KOZ article.  Having worked in OECD

 

           25              and economic development for many years, I


 

 

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            1              understand the need for KOZ's, and the need

 

            2              to bring jobs into the community.  I only

 

            3              voted for I believe seven out of 21, so we

 

            4              didn't just rubber stamp all the KOZ's.  The

 

            5              county did, and I don't recall anyone going

 

            6              there objecting.  Now, maybe they did and I

 

            7              didn't pay attention, but I don't recall

 

            8              anyone having a big outcry against the

 

            9              county commissioners that unanimously

 

           10              approved 21 KOZ's.

 

           11                      I will stand by my opinion on KOZ's.

 

           12              If we stop them in the whole state and the

 

           13              whole country then I think we would have a

 

           14              shot, but as long as outlying communities

 

           15              and states that are surrounding us have tax

 

           16              incentives for business, we are certainly

 

           17              going to be the losers in the long run.  Are

 

           18              they right?  I don't know.  I don't believe

 

           19              know if they are right, wrong or

 

           20              indifferent.  I just know that everyone else

 

           21              has them and we will certainly be at a

 

           22              disadvantage to not have them in our

 

           23              community, and that is how I feel about it.

 

           24                      To continue discussing it for the

 

           25              next six months is totally irrelevant.  It's


 

 

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            1              done.  It's over and we will see in the

 

            2              future what will happen.  People make

 

            3              decisions with their conscience, and Les

 

            4              said I didn't have a conscience, well, yes,

 

            5              I do.  And I can go to bed at night.  I look

 

            6              in the mirror and I'm very happy with the

 

            7              things I have done in my community, and

 

            8              that's all I have, thank you.  And thank you

 

            9              very much, Mrs. Evans, and my colleagues for

 

           10              allowing me this opportunity to be at

 

           11              council.  Thank you.  And if anyone has any

 

           12              questions just call Kay and she can get the

 

           13              message to me or you can call me at home.

 

           14              Thank you.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           16              Mrs. Evans?

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: Good morning.

 

           18              Applications are currently available for

 

           19              2010 federal funding for Community

 

           20              Development Block Grants, CDBG, Home and

 

           21              Emergency Shelter Grants, ESG.  They may be

 

           22              obtained online at www.Scrantonpa.gov,

 

           23              Department OECD applications.  Applicants

 

           24              must submit one original and one copy no

 

           25              later than Friday, August 7, 2009, to OECD,


 

 

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            1              53 Spruce Street, Scranton, PA, 18508.

 

            2                      Next, a few housekeeping items, the

 

            3              water problems in the 2600 block of North

 

            4              Main Avenue and at the corner of Main Avenue

 

            5              and Wells Street were reported to Charlie

 

            6              Matthews.  He stated that he had spoken to

 

            7              homeowners in the past and is aware of this

 

            8              problem.  Further, Mr. Matthews stated that

 

            9              he will add this to his list of work items.

 

           10              I want the residents to know that this

 

           11              problem is now in the hands of Mr. Mathews

 

           12              and we hope that he will take care of

 

           13              taxpayers' problems.

 

           14                      Also, I received a response

 

           15              regarding truck traffic in the area of the

 

           16              500 block of Race Street from Chief Elliott.

 

           17              A police lieutenant was sent to the location

 

           18              and reports the following:  There is a truck

 

           19              repair garage and truck parts business in

 

           20              this area.  There are also several

 

           21              construction projects underway in the Plot

 

           22              Section which are probably causing

 

           23              additional truck traffic.  Also, there is no

 

           24              restriction for truck traffic in this

 

           25              location according to the police.


 

 

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            1                      Now, I know the residents were

 

            2              complaining of these two businesses

 

            3              mentioned by the police officers, but

 

            4              apparently the law allows for such in this

 

            5              area which is highly unfortunate for nearby

 

            6              homeowners who suffer from the odors, noise,

 

            7              and road deterioration.

 

            8                      I also received a response to the

 

            9              North Washington Avenue and University

 

           10              Avenue drainage complaint.  The city

 

           11              engineer, Brian Swanson, has investigated

 

           12              the location thoroughly and he states:  We

 

           13              are currently designing remediation.  In the

 

           14              mean time, we have put in a work order for

 

           15              the two existing inlets, one along

 

           16              University Avenue and the other at

 

           17              University and Adams Avenue to be cleaned

 

           18              out to temporarily improve drainage.

 

           19                      He is a recommending, for example,

 

           20              that an inlet should be added at the

 

           21              intersection of Dimick Court and University

 

           22              Avenue, and I am very pleased with that very

 

           23              timely response to the neighbor's complaints

 

           24              and they can further update me as progress

 

           25              continues or contact me if there are any


 

 

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            1              additional problems.

 

            2                      Next, council received a

 

            3              correspondence from the owner of a business

 

            4              who claims a city official has violated the

 

            5              Sherman Act of 1890, the Clayton Act of

 

            6              1914, and further indicates cause for an

 

            7              anti-trust suit, and I certainly hope this

 

            8              is not the case.  However, serious

 

            9              allegations have been made and I ask that a

 

           10              copy of this letter is provided to the city

 

           11              solicitor.

 

           12                      I further request a written response

 

           13              regarding such letter on or before July 19,

 

           14              2009, to Scranton City Council.  The

 

           15              business owner also states that he was the

 

           16              lowest competitive bidder of an item for

 

           17              purchase by the city, but his company was

 

           18              not selected.  There may well be reasons for

 

           19              this decision, but I would like an

 

           20              explanation.  So, Kay, if we could please

 

           21              send a letter regarding this purchase, the

 

           22              company that was selected, the total price

 

           23              paid for the purchase, and justification for

 

           24              the final selection.

 

           25                      Finally, I have citizens' requests


 

 

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            1              for the week:  207 Colfax Avenue, a tree at

 

            2              this property was marked by Mr. Santolli for

 

            3              cutting purposes.  The tree limbs are

 

            4              dangerously dangling over a portion of the

 

            5              home.  Cut down this tree as soon as

 

            6              possible.

 

            7                      The corner of McDonough Street and

 

            8              Pittston Avenue, residents of the block

 

            9              report that the property is overgrown and

 

           10              wished to know when demolition of the house

 

           11              will occur.

 

           12                      Residents of the 400 block of Pear

 

           13              Street have experienced expensive property

 

           14              damage and suspect drug sales in their

 

           15              neighborhood.  Please have police officers

 

           16              drive-by this block on every shift when

 

           17              possible.

 

           18                      I have reported the issue on Watson

 

           19              Street, for the residents of Watson Street

 

           20              who might be watching, and as soon as I

 

           21              receive an answer I will contact the

 

           22              neighbors.

 

           23                      Does the city provide insurance for

 

           24              the leased Ice Box property?  Who is the

 

           25              insurance carrier?  Provide annual costs and


 

 

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            1              coverages.

 

            2                      Also, who provides and is billed for

 

            3              the insurance policy which covers the

 

            4              amusement rides at Nay Aug Park, and that is

 

            5              it.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci?

 

            7                      MS. FANUCCI: I actually have nothing

 

            8              at this time, nothing that I'm going to

 

            9              respond to from today's performances.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay.  Pear Street

 

           11              Mrs. Evans brought up, I did speak to --

 

           12              there is four shifts, I spoke to officers on

 

           13              two of the four shifts, they said they would

 

           14              be happy to go by and check them out.  They

 

           15              actually were familiar with that one

 

           16              residence.

 

           17                      And, Kay, I didn't see, you know,

 

           18              sometimes I have a tendency when I throw

 

           19              some of my paperwork out and miss some

 

           20              things, I didn't see a response from Chris

 

           21              Batten from Swanson about the bridge.

 

           22                      MS. GARVEY: We did not.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Could we send

 

           24              another letter to him, only because we are

 

           25              only going to be here until the end of July


 

 

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            1              and then we'll be off for August and that

 

            2              project is on the Crisp Avenue bridge is

 

            3              supposed to start in August, and I'm hoping

 

            4              that it does, and if it's not going to I

 

            5              would at least like to be able to tell the

 

            6              people, you know, it's held up and if it is

 

            7              held up why or if it's going to start on

 

            8              time I'd like to be able to inform the

 

            9              people of that, and that's all I have.

 

           10              Thank you.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Two very

 

           12              brief things.  First, the school board did

 

           13              do it's duty in voting on the KOZ's, but I

 

           14              would like to remind people that they only

 

           15              voted after council forced them to.  We did

 

           16              our duty, you may not have agreed with the

 

           17              votes on everything, but we did our duty in

 

           18              addressing them and the school board would

 

           19              never have even looked at them had we not

 

           20              done that.

 

           21                      Second, and last, the CDBG

 

           22              applications, I would say that people

 

           23              looking to apply, I would think that there

 

           24              is going to be limited funding for them this

 

           25              year, so that anyone that's wishing to apply


 

 

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            1              for these grants make sure that the

 

            2              applications are complete, make sure they

 

            3              are specific to projects or to projects that

 

            4              are within the guidelines of the grant

 

            5              applications and if you are -- if you have

 

            6              any reasonable expectation of receiving any

 

            7              money from these grants, but please do

 

            8              submit them and that's all I have.

 

            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Motion to adjourn.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Thank you

 

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            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and

 

            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

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