1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday, June 30, 2009




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                   Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania









































                (Not present.)


                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1   (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of reflection


            2   observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please?


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


            7              Fanucci.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Let the record


           13              reflect that Mrs. Gatelli notified council


           14              that she would not be here today due to


           15              illness.  Dispense with the reading of the


           16              minutes.


           17                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A. 2008






           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           21              If not, received and filed.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. AGENDA FOR THE




           24              ON JUNE 24, 2009.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?






            1              If not, received and filed.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. MINUTES OF THE




            4              ON MAY 27, 2009.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            6              If not, received and filed.


            7                      MS. GARVEY: 3-D. MINUTES OF THE




            9              27, 2009.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           11              If not, received and filed.


           12                      MS. GARVEY: 3-E. MINUTES OF THE




           14              MAY 27, 2009.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           16              If not, received and filed.


           17                      MS. GARVEY: 3-F. MINUTES OF THE




           19              HELD ON MAY 27, 2009.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           21              If not, received and filed.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           23              Order.


           24                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  Please remember in


           25              your prayers all those who have died in the






            1              last week, particularly, Joseph O'Shea, Sr.,


            2              World War II veteran and Minooka resident


            3              and his sons, Joe, Kevin and Brian,


            4              daughter, Peggy, and all other family


            5              members and friends he leaves behind.


            6                      Also, Joseph Zalenski passed away


            7              last week.  His daughter, Audrey, is my


            8              colleague and works in the library at


            9              Scranton High School.  Please remember


           10              Mr. Zelenski in your prayers and his family


           11              and friends who so dearly miss him.


           12                      The annual Fourth of July


           13              celebration will be conducted this Saturday


           14              at Nay Aug Park beginning at 10:30 a.m.


           15              Many thanks to Mr. Frank Tyson who organizes


           16              this enjoyable patriotic event each year;


           17              and, finally, I'd like to wish everyone a


           18              very safe and happy Fourth of July.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Thank you.


           20              Citizens' participation.  Andy Sbaraglia.


           21                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,


           22              citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians, I


           23              got before me the campaign spending for the


           24              mayoral race.  I mean, Mr. DiBileo spent


           25              about $100,000 for it.  The mayor spent






            1              $569,000 to get on the two petitions


            2              Republic and Democrat, and most of his


            3              funding didn't come within the city, it came


            4              from outside of the city, and what does that


            5              tell you?  People like what's going on in


            6              the city but they don't want to live and pay


            7              the taxes of the city residents, and this


            8              has been going on.


            9                      I mean, never in my life did


           10              somebody spend that much money for a primary


           11              for an office that even if he is elected to


           12              would pay him $200,000 over the four-year


           13              contract, but the money that poured into


           14              this city tells you a story and if you all


           15              looked at the mayor's campaign contributors


           16              you would see the story because many of his


           17              contributors have worked either for the


           18              city, had contracts with the city, but they


           19              don't live in the city and that tells you


           20              something else, too.


           21                      It tells you that the elections in


           22              Scranton is manipulated by outsiders.  They


           23              are pouring money into it and I resent that.


           24              I resent money coming from outside of an


           25              area to influence an election.  This is not






            1              very good.  The only person -- people that


            2              really did it any good was Tamini.  I don't


            3              want to see Scranton become a new Tamini.  I


            4              believe that the people in Scranton should


            5              endorse the candidates they think are good


            6              for the city and not get outside -- from


            7              Philadelphia, Harrisburg, all across the


            8              state, money poured into this campaign and


            9              they expect something for it.  They don't do


           10              it because they like Mr. Doherty, they


           11              expect something for their buck and that's


           12              the sad state of affairs.  They are going to


           13              get the buck and we are going to get the


           14              debt.  If the people of Scranton don't


           15              realize that then I don't know, there is no


           16              hope for them.


           17                      Okay, let's get to my -- I like the


           18              agenda, I really enjoy the agenda items, but


           19              this really this insurance, it's for the


           20              slide with Knowles Associates, LLC, they are


           21              not going to be the insurance carrier, I


           22              guess they are going Nautilus Insurance


           23              Company and there is a little article in


           24              here about Nautilus Insurance Company.  The


           25              insurance carrier with whom we have quoted






            1              and have rescinded in this proposal of


            2              insurance is not admitted to transact


            3              business in the State of Pennsylvania.  The


            4              insurance carrier is subject to a limited


            5              regulation by the Pennsylvania State


            6              Department of Insurance.  In the event that


            7              the insurance carrier becomes insolvent or


            8              any of all loss occurring on the policy will


            9              not be covered by the Pennsylvania Insurance


           10              Guarantee Association and will be the sole


           11              responsibility of the policyholder, Knowles


           12              Associates.


           13                      Knowles Associates, the people that


           14              are dealing with, there is no financial


           15              responsibility for insolvency or nonpayment


           16              of claims by any insurance carrier.


           17                      Now, how could we look at that and


           18              say that's -- we are going to be protected?


           19              That little note tells you we are not going


           20              to be protected.  Knowles is going to walk


           21              away with an insurance fee.  I guess he is


           22              going to get an insurance like a broker's


           23              fee for transferring this policy to someone


           24              else.  It's not a good idea.  Not that I


           25              believe that we shouldn't have insurance on






            1              the slide, we do need it, but let's make


            2              sure that this city is fully covered with


            3              all liability and we don't end up with


            4              another tent problem up there at Nay Aug.  I


            5              thank you.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Ozzie Quinn.


            7                      MR. QUINN:  Good morning.  Ozzie


            8              Quinn, Taxpayers' Association.  I want to


            9              thank everyone who voted down the KOZ.  I


           10              really want to thank the school board for


           11              what they did, but especially Mrs. Evans who


           12              was always right again looking out for the


           13              public.  Thank you.  You know, we are


           14              $170 million in debt principle, school board


           15              is 120 and the county commissioners are two


           16              twenty-four point two million, that's over a


           17              half a billion dollars and our population


           18              right now according to the Census Bureau


           19              which I got off Fact Finder $72,485.


           20              25 percent of the properties are nonprofits.


           21                      Now, the Doherty administration


           22              better get off their butts and get out there


           23              and try to get something in lieu of taxes


           24              because we are never going to meet this


           25              here.  The worst thing about it there has






            1              been so much money and our neighborhoods are


            2              a wreck.  When you drive through them and


            3              you see the crumbling infrastructure, the


            4              sidewalks, the curbs, the houses, people


            5              can't afford to upkeep them or whatnot, it


            6              really makes you alarmed, you know.


            7                      Now, I want to just talk a little


            8              bit about the Doherty finances, too.  In the


            9              primaries he spent that $569,430,00.91.  Do


           10              you know what, 56 percent of that came from


           11              contributors outside of the City of


           12              Scranton.  Is that unbelievable?  Now, why


           13              would you do that?  Look at 5-D introducing


           14              a contract with Knowles Associates for


           15              insurance.  He lives in Clarks Summit.  He


           16              contributed $2,750 to Mr. Doherty's primary.


           17              How much is the contract for?  That's why


           18              they are contributing.  We are fools.  We


           19              are fools here in the city.  The taxpayers


           20              are just being run over.


           21                      You know, I hate to expound on our


           22              debt and what's going on, but it's just


           23              useless unless you listen.  Mr. McGoff,


           24              unless you listen.  Thank you very much.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.






            1                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good morning.  Marie


            2              Schumacher, resident and member of the


            3              Taxpayers' Association.  I'd like to start


            4              out today again with an old subject, the


            5              agreement between the City of Scranton and


            6              BRT Ice, LP.  I had a Right-to-Know since


            7              it's been months that Mr. Minora was


            8              supposedly finding out what the city's


            9              obligation was and we have not had a report,


           10              I wrote a Right-to-Know and asked for a copy


           11              of the agreement that's in effect and for


           12              any prerequisite or prerequisites which have


           13              not yet occurred and the estimated date any


           14              open or unfulfilled prerequisite would be


           15              satisfied.  I received a copy of the


           16              agreement, however, my request for the


           17              prerequisites and the prerequisites that are


           18              not fulfilled was denied because the City of


           19              Scranton does not have any documents


           20              responsive to this request.


           21                      Now, I would love to know how the


           22              city administers contracts if they don't


           23              keep track of what their open obligations


           24              are and what dates they have to be fulfilled


           25              and whether they are open or closed?  I






            1              mean, that's simple contract administration,


            2              even I could do that, I did it for eight


            3              years and to me that's just who knows this.


            4              The developer doesn't know, he stood at this


            5              very podium and said, "Yeah, the city owes


            6              me something, but I don't know what it is."


            7                      I have asked council, supposedly


            8              there is an investigation going on here, and


            9              the Right-to-Know and legal departments,


           10              supposedly all the departments why solicited


           11              for a response, but there is none.


           12              Something is very, very wrong with


           13              administration in this city.


           14                      Beyond that, I'd like to know about


           15              our 2009 doughnut budget, the one with the


           16              big hole in the middle.  Last week you


           17              voted, unfortunately, to transfer $50,000


           18              from Genesis Wildlife Center to another


           19              account, you know, obviously you have the


           20              right to do that, but with a big hole is


           21              there anybody up there who can tell me the


           22              size of the hole?  It appears we are going


           23              to be significantly under the $5.5 million


           24              due from the Single Tax Office, what is that


           25              amount and what is council's plan to fill






            1              that?  Are we going to raise taxes?  I don't


            2              think bonds are even affordable this day and


            3              age, so I would really like to know what we


            4              taxpayers are facing between now and the end


            5              of the year when the bills come due.


            6                      And I would also like or request


            7              that you start looking at our wage tax and


            8              ways to find money to reduce that wage tax.


            9              That is biggest single difference between us


           10              and all of the municipalities around which


           11              have a grand total of 1 percent and we have


           12              3.4 percent.  I sat and listened to all of


           13              things are purported to bring business in.


           14              Whenever we bring forth taxes, the subject


           15              of taxes and the wage tax and the property


           16              taxes from this podium we go, oh, no, that's


           17              not it.  It's, you know, they love our


           18              downtown, they love our parks, they love our


           19              school system, but yet when it came down to


           20              nix it for KOZ's then all of a sudden taxes


           21              became very important.  Now, it can't be


           22              both ways, so I think by your votes of the


           23              majority last week you showed that taxes,


           24              indeed, are important and I think if we are


           25              going to become competitive we need to get






            1              that wage tax down and hold the reigns in on


            2              property taxes, so I hope you are also


            3              looking at that.


            4                      I hope you are also contacting our


            5              local legislators on signing on to be


            6              cosponsors of the reintroduction of


            7              Freeman's Bill for relief from the burden --


            8              for relief for municipalities with a burden


            9              of 25 percent -- well, actually, his bill is


           10              15 percent nontaxable properties he


           11              considers a burden, and that's what his bill


           12              addressed.  We are almost, maybe with a


           13              recent University proposals or purchases we


           14              are probably over double that, so I think we


           15              need relief there.


           16                      And, finally, if I may, because I


           17              believe it's important because OECD issued a


           18              solicitation for space for the next three


           19              years and they gave a one-week turn around.


           20              The proposals had to be in in one week which


           21              I think is, I mean, that's not exactly


           22              something that wasn't known.  I think that's


           23              too short of response time, and I would like


           24              to be assured during motions that the city


           25              is responding to that solicitation.  Thank






            1              you.  Thank you for your indulgence.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Ron Ellman.


            3                      MR. ELLMAN: Ronnie Ellman, member of


            4              the Taxpayers' Association.  I'd like to


            5              thank the school board, too, for considering


            6              the people of the city for once, probably


            7              the first time since Todd O'Malley's group


            8              infested the city with KOZ's.  I can imagine


            9              how much pressure the school board must have


           10              had on them.  The KOZ's, right here is an


           11              example, there is two ads for houses for


           12              sale, one is $200,000, big tax free.  Right


           13              there is $180,000 no taxes.  That's what KOZ


           14              has come to mean, the people that are paying


           15              taxes, Austin Burke seems like it's a crime


           16              for his bunch of people who have to pay


           17              taxes.  I can imagine that Mr. Burke had a


           18              bunch of pressure on him.  When you have a


           19              $30 million project there is money passed


           20              all around to push it.  I don't know if we


           21              relieved him of some his retirement fund or


           22              something, but he is still pursuing it with


           23              a $50,000 -- I don't know, to me it's


           24              nothing but a bribe to keep this in front of


           25              the public.  It's over with.






            1                      And I forgot what day it was, Friday


            2              or Saturday I was listening to the news and


            3              some big company located outside of Detroit


            4              and they were bragging they brought


            5              $150 million to the tax rolls in that city.


            6              If Austin Burke wasn't a complacent dinosaur


            7              he would be out doing things like this,


            8              getting businesses that want to stay here.


            9              At the school board meeting something said


           10              schools are important and streets and other


           11              things, it's not just tax free.  We don't


           12              offer any of those things anymore.  All we


           13              hear about is letting the -- what gets me so


           14              mad this man is pursuing this to no end and


           15              he doesn't live in town.  He doesn't care


           16              one iota about the city.  You know, they


           17              ought to just fire him years ago and hire a


           18              girl from Labor Ready for $8 an hour would


           19              have done a better job.


           20                      And I got to change the subject, I'd


           21              like to know why Mr. Baker if he is still on


           22              the payroll after a year and a half of sick


           23              leave or something.  I hadn't seen nothing


           24              in the paper about it and a couple of months


           25              ago I thought I read that they were going to






            1              work on the Olive Street apartments or are


            2              they just waiting for them to deteriorate so


            3              they can give them to the Lackawanna College


            4              or something.  And speaking of Lackawanna


            5              College, right there festering under


            6              everybody's nose is another University of


            7              Scranton situation where they will be taking


            8              over the whole area, all of those houses


            9              will be off.  Mr. Phillips said at the


           10              school board meeting, I believe he said, the


           11              University since '92 has, I don't know any


           12              other word, they have cheated the city out


           13              of $26 million worth of school taxes since


           14              1992.


           15                      You cannot allow the University --


           16              Lackawanna College to start the same thing.


           17              They have already taken over a three-story


           18              apartment building.  It's a -- you know,


           19              they want to -- I know the mayor wanted to


           20              take over the Midtown apartments, scatter


           21              those people like he did Olive Street with


           22              all of these promises.  These promises don't


           23              go through just like the KOZ promises don't


           24              go through.


           25                      And nobody knows why Mr. Baker is






            1              still on the parole if he is?  I mean, I


            2              just wondered.  I saw he is taking sick


            3              leave and it's been a year and a half for


            4              crying out loud.  Who has a year and a half


            5              of sick leave?


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: We really have no


            7              jurisdiction, but I honestly believe he is


            8              still on the payroll.  He is still on the


            9              payroll from what I heard, but we really


           10              can't control that board, unfortunately.  We


           11              have nothing to do with what they do there


           12              or --


           13                      MR. ELLMAN:  Yeah, but how about


           14              sick leave and vacation time are you


           15              supposed to have?  He worked ten years.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: It's the housing


           17              authority though, so you would have to speak


           18              to them on that.


           19                      MR. ELLMAN:  All right.  Thank you


           20              very much.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Jean Suetta.


           22                      MS. SUETTA: Good morning, Jean


           23              Suetta, Scranton.  All right, has anybody


           24              driven down Albright Avenue lately over by


           25              the Lace Works?  You see the jungle over






            1              there?  We got lions and tigers and bears.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Oh my.


            3                      MS. SUETTA:  I seen two deer.  I


            4              seen two deer in there.  Yeah.  I mean, it's


            5              overgrown.  I sit on my front porch now and


            6              I look across the street, Greenridge Street


            7              and I got a jungle over there, right?  The


            8              other side of the bank next to the bank on


            9              Greenridge Street, the new bank they put up,


           10              there is an empty lot and then there is a


           11              jungle and I sit on my porch and I look at


           12              the jungle.  Now, if that was my yard what I


           13              got find?  Yes?  No?


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes, you would.


           15                      MS. SUETTA: Yes.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Not you, Jean, because


           17              we --


           18                      MS. SUETTA:  No, that's why I'm so


           19              sore because I weed and weed and weed.  How


           20              about Rinaldi getting the other part up on


           21              Nay Aug Avenue, that's part of the gas


           22              company, those two buildings there are


           23              maintained by the gas company, and they


           24              haven't been touched here either.  There is


           25              two little sheds up there.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: Jean, why don't you


            2              tell Neil exactly where the properties are


            3              and then we can send a letter for you, how's


            4              that?  I don't want to give you and Neil


            5              time alone, but I'm just saying.


            6                      MS. SUETTA: And this here for


            7              consideration putting a light up on Linden


            8              Street and Eighth Avenue, do you know what


            9              like Linden Street is in the winter and you


           10              are going to put a light up there?  You will


           11              have more accidents than anything.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: They did a whole study.


           13              We were actually concerned about that in the


           14              beginning ourselves and we stopped it.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I tried to stop it,


           16              Jean.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: We did.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  But that's what


           19              PennDOT is saying in the study is the best


           20              thing, and I'm going to ask them at the very


           21              least to put a sign up at the top notifying


           22              the people that there is going to be a light


           23              when they are approaching.  I asked for stop


           24              signs, their study says stop signs won't do


           25              it.  There's a stop sign coming out of the






            1              development.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: And they said stop


            3              signs would be actually make it worse


            4              because every car would then have to stop.


            5              I mean, that doesn't make sense, too, it


            6              you're at the hill, but still we tried.  We


            7              were under the same impression, too, but --


            8                      MS. SUETTA: All right.  On the Ross


            9              Avenue going into Marion now they put a


           10              curve where they eliminated Nay Aug, we are


           11              down in lower Greenridge, Ross Avenue they


           12              put a bend in to go right onto Marion


           13              Street, could I get a slow down sign or


           14              something there because they are spending


           15              around that like crazy.  Neil, everything to


           16              Neil.  Are we going to leave the room?  But,


           17              that's it.


           18                       And this is stupid to put this


           19              light there, and who is going to be --


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I wasn't for it


           21              either, Jean, but I got overridden there.


           22                      MS. SUETTA: I mean, people are going


           23              to get killed coming down that hill, they


           24              are going to slide all over, "Oh, I got a


           25              red light.  They are going to slide through






            1              it and hit the bridge."


            2                      That's it.  So what about the Lace


            3              Works?  Rinaldi owns it.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Cordaro.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: No, I think it's


            6              Cordaro.


            7                      MS. SUETTA: Cordaro, yeah.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Mr. Cordaro owns it and


            9              we can probably send a letter to him and see


           10              if we can't get him -- -


           11                      MS. SUETTA:  And that jungle across


           12              the street from me.


           13                      MS. EVANS: I'll take care of it.


           14                      MS. SUETTA: Right next to -- here's


           15              --  he is going to hit the bell.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Janet is going to go


           17              down after the meeting with her.


           18                      MS. SUETTA: Here's the bank, here's


           19              the lot they cleared to make the gas, and


           20              then there is the jungle, so because I sit


           21              on the porch and I look at a jungle.


           22                      MS. EVANS: Jeannie, we'll get an


           23              inspector to go down to the area and speak


           24              to the property owner and make sure that the


           25              overgrown lot is taken care of.






            1                      MS. SUETTA: All right.  Coming


            2              down -- now, today I come down Washington


            3              Avenue, the 1500 block there is a beautiful


            4              home sitting up there, it looks like it's


            5              condemned, and that's property is all


            6              overgrown.


            7                      MS. EVANS: The 1500 of?


            8                      MS. SUETTA: Washington.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Where the wall is --


           10                      MS. SUETTA:  Yeah.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah, I have seen that.


           12                      MS. SUETTA: And it's all overgrown


           13              there and that's a beautiful neighborhood --


           14                      MS. EVANS: The corner of Washington


           15              and Greenridge.  No?


           16                      MS. SUETTA: No, Marian.  Right


           17              before you make the curve.  Thank you.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: David Dobrzyn.


           19                      MR. DOBRZYN: Good morning, Council,


           20              Dave Dobrzyn, resident of Scranton.  I'd


           21              like to talk about two things that aren't


           22              really on the agenda, but as long as we are


           23              talking about traffic lights, the light at


           24              Wyoming and Lackawanna and the light at


           25              Washington and Lackawanna there have been






            1              people killed there in accidents, and that I


            2              noticed by crossing there and I do patronize


            3              our mall by the way quite a bit, is that


            4              drivers have a green during the walk light


            5              and it's okay for them to turn, and it's a


            6              big problem.  Two people that I know of or


            7              believe were killed on that corner within


            8              the last year or two, so if at all possible


            9              get some kind of schedule where people at


           10              least have a little bit of time to start


           11              walking before it turns green for everybody


           12              else.  It's a big problem, I have seen it,


           13              and I have had dodge out of the way of cars


           14              on my way to the mall and Buona Pizza, my


           15              favorite pizza shop, and I'm not sure up by


           16              Molly Branigan's I would have to look and


           17              see at that corner, Adams and Lackawanna


           18              whether the lights are the same, but they


           19              are busy corners and it's really hard to


           20              stay out of the way of traffic.


           21                      And I was up at Nay Aug the other


           22              day for our fireworks display and I noticed


           23              that there is tagging going on.  The one


           24              main office building was just painted last


           25              year and I looked over and right on the






            1              front of it it's all tagged up, and if at


            2              all possible, and it probably wouldn't be


            3              good to say it, that's it's definitely


            4              happening, but we should have an unmarked


            5              police patrol through there, and see if


            6              could catch somebody some day because also


            7              the concession stand was -- some signs were


            8              torn down and stuff and so forth, so it


            9              would be -- a lot of effort has been spent,


           10              a lot of volunteer work on Schimelfenig


           11              Pavilion and before they get to it, it would


           12              be nice to make sure that they get caught.


           13                      That's all I really have other than


           14              those people that were applying for KOZ last


           15              week with houses, I think they were possibly


           16              mislead by the developer, so if I were them


           17              I would be talking to my attorney right


           18              about now.  They may have been sold those


           19              lots based on it's a shoo-in and so forth


           20              and, you know, a lot of these lots get sold


           21              or business get sold as, yes, it's going to


           22              be and then a developer gets to jack up the


           23              price, too.  That's what that's all about,


           24              so I really felt sorry for them.  I


           25              understand the school board is up against






            1              it, they can't keep giving tax breaks to


            2              everybody and so forth, but I would consider


            3              if they are watching this I would have a


            4              discussion with my attorney.  Have a good


            5              day.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Other speakers.


            7                      MS. FRANUS:  Fay Franus.  All I have


            8              to say tonight is -- today rather, I would


            9              really like to congratulate the Scranton


           10              School Board for representing the people


           11              that elected them.  It wasn't easy for them,


           12              I'm sure with all of the phone calls they


           13              received, and I really have to hand it to


           14              them.  They did an excellent job, they come


           15              under a lot of pressure even from the people


           16              and from the people that wanted the KOZ so I


           17              really have to say bravo for them, except


           18              Bob Lesh, of course.  He along with Judy


           19              Gatelli, Mr. McGoff and Sherry voted for


           20              them, which is not for the people, but the


           21              Scranton School Board came through and it's


           22              very, very refreshing and I think everybody


           23              in the city is thankful to them and they


           24              deserve a round of applause.  Thank you.


           25                      MR. MCCLOE: Good morning.  My name






            1              is Brett McCloe, citizen of Scranton,


            2              taxpayer.  First off, once again, I would


            3              like to thank the Scranton School Board for


            4              showing the citizens of this city that


            5              sometimes government bodies practice good


            6              neighbor policies and understand the


            7              economic difficulties of the many.


            8                      I also want to clarify and add some


            9              insight into statements made during a moment


           10              when I had a very short fuse or possibly no


           11              fuse at all.  I have always had a sore spot


           12              for the treatment of employees no matter


           13              where you work, what position you have or


           14              who you work for.  I have always had a


           15              problem with the mentality that reduces


           16              hardworking employees down to the status of


           17              a name tag.  A employee's role in business


           18              and in the economy is vital and can't be


           19              done without.


           20                      A question was asked if I owned a


           21              business.  A simple yes or no question that


           22              had many connotations and gave you a peek


           23              into the faulty mindset of a failing


           24              ideology.  The connotation was that an


           25              employee can't possibly know what it takes






            1              to run or own a business.  This type of


            2              linear thinking is so pervasive and warped


            3              that it has contributed to the collapse of


            4              our local and national economy.  The fact


            5              is, it is the employee who drives this


            6              dichotomy from the street sweeper to the


            7              brain surgeon, from grocery clerk to


            8              astronaut.  It is the employee who fosters


            9              innovation every time on every level without


           10              fail.  Unless you are self-employed it is


           11              the employee who puts the face to the vision


           12              of the owner's business and it is the


           13              employee who provides the muscle to make it


           14              go.


           15                      So, you see, if every business owner


           16              in this city were to magically disappear the


           17              doors will city open for commerce the very


           18              next day.  A job is a job.  Another linear


           19              statement that reduces the importance of the


           20              employee down to the status of a box of


           21              donuts, easily consumed and cheaper by the


           22              dozen.  Even if you are in a supervisory or


           23              a management position you are still a


           24              doughnut only yours is covered with powered


           25              sugar and filled with corporate jelly.






            1                      These two statements along with


            2              their connotations have eroded one of the


            3              most important foundations of 500 years of


            4              institutionalized capitalism.  A fair day's


            5              pay for a fair day's work.  Fair meaning


            6              equitable and just, not medium or so-so.


            7              It's not hard to see the results of the


            8              abandonment of a fair day's pay for a fair


            9              day's work.


           10                      The average employee nationally and


           11              locally is finding it ever more difficult to


           12              consume.  This lack of ability to consume


           13              causes loss of revenue to businesses which


           14              causes cutbacks in worker hours and pay


           15              raises.  A viscous economic cycle that once


           16              again causes the lack of ability to consume.


           17              I'm afraid, yet confident, that the solution


           18              at least on the local level lies in the


           19              hands of the average employee.  We can no


           20              longer take our jobs and our paychecks for


           21              granted.  We, as employees, need to engage


           22              with business owners whenever possible and


           23              wherever appropriate, not to confront them,


           24              but to ask questions about cost


           25              effectiveness, various business taxes and






            1              management of waste and implementations of


            2              policy, but most importantly to provide the


            3              owner and management with the employee's


            4              insight based on the answers to those


            5              questions.


            6                      I think the combined work force of


            7              this city understands that due to the


            8              massive downturn in the economy that raises


            9              will be far and few between, so as one


           10              employee, as one citizen, as one taxpayer


           11              and as someone who cares about the economic


           12              future of the City of Scranton I urge


           13              business owners to take a closer look at the


           14              effects of an oppressive local taxations on


           15              not only just your own businesses, but look


           16              at how the taxation affects the private


           17              lives of your employees as well as your


           18              consumers and the morale of the two of your


           19              greatest marketing tools.  Ask yourself,


           20              does your vote on election day help or hurt


           21              the private lives of the very people you


           22              need for your business to thrive and exist.


           23              Thank you.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?


           25                      MR. TYSON: Good morning, Council my






            1              name is Francis Tyson, resident of Scranton,


            2              the second largest city in Pennsylvania in


            3              the area, lead only by Philadelphia, who is


            4              first; Scranton comes second; and Pittsburgh


            5              is third, so it's a good place to live in


            6              Scranton.  I cordially invite all of the


            7              council members and your real memorialists


            8              to be with us on the Fourth of July up at


            9              Nay Aug Park at the swim complex it's a


           10              yearly link that we do every year for the


           11              citizens of Scranton and the surrounding


           12              areas.  It's just good citizenship and a way


           13              to teach our youngsters good citizenship and


           14              patriotism.


           15                      The participants we ask them to


           16              arrive about 10:15 and the viewing people


           17              for the ceremony itself get there about


           18              10:30 who have some musical notes by the


           19              Ringal band and play some very patriotic


           20              music and the ceremony itself starts at


           21              11:00, and we hope that we can get as many


           22              people there as possible and try to build up


           23              every year.  Our guest speaker is Major


           24              General Mauger.  General Mauger is a great


           25              guy and real hero.






            1                      In addition, we are going to pass


            2              out miniature American flags to all of the


            3              youngsters and we are going to have a nice


            4              cool beverage for them after the ceremony,


            5              so if you can make it we would certainly


            6              like to have you all.  Thank you.  Any


            7              questions?


            8                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Tyson, I'd just like


            9              to thank you for organizing this wonderful


           10              event annually.  You do a fantastic job.


           11                      MR. TYSON:  I'm just the guy that


           12              gives the direction.  Everybody else does


           13              all the work.  Thank you.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Anyone else?


           15              Mrs. Evans?


           16                      MS. EVANS: Good morning.  First, I'd


           17              like to add my thanks to those of countless


           18              Scrantonians to the Scranton School Board


           19              for their fiscally responsible votes against


           20              KOZ extensions.


           21                      Several weeks ago, I sent a letter


           22              to Lackawanna College respectfully


           23              requesting a contribution in lieu of taxes


           24              for it's use of Nay Aug Park's Genesis


           25              Wildlife Center as an environmental center.






            1              Council received a response from Lackawanna


            2              College last week, and I am highly


            3              disappointed and concerned to report that


            4              Mr. Raymond Angeli, president of Lackawanna,


            5              refused to allocate any payments in lieu of


            6              taxes to the City of Scranton for free


            7              swimming for children at Nay Aug Park.


            8                      In his letter, Mr. Angeli states:


            9              "We set out to anchor the northern boundary


           10              of the city's downtown.  We now have eight


           11              buildings, six of them in downtown Scranton.


           12              These buildings alone have lead to well over


           13              $45 million in construction monies in the


           14              city during the past dozen or so years."


           15                      That is a significant statistic and


           16              the construction trades certainly have


           17              enjoyed temporary employment for which I am


           18              very pleased.  However, overall, such


           19              spending has benefited the college not the


           20              taxpayers of Scranton.  Since the early


           21              1990's Lackawanna has grown from one


           22              building to eight and, of course, these


           23              eight properties are off the tax rolls.


           24                      He further cites in-kind


           25              contributions such as building space






            1              allotted to the Commonwealth Medical School,


            2              meeting space for community and service


            3              groups such as the St. Patrick's Day Parade


            4              Committee.  Lackawanna County student


            5              service projects performed with other area


            6              nonprofits, as is done at all high schools,


            7              colleges and universities, and advice to


            8              local government and agencies on environment


            9              issues and grant writing.


           10                      I believe that local governments


           11              employ grant writers and environmental


           12              issues easily can be researched by employees


           13              as well.  Mr. Angeli goes on to say that


           14              payments would have to be passed along to


           15              our students in the form of higher tuition.


           16              We cannot in good conscious allow that to


           17              happen.  We believe that the in-kind


           18              contributions that Lackawanna College makes


           19              on a day-to-day basis to the City of


           20              Scranton are invaluable and help make


           21              Scranton a stronger and finer place to live.


           22                      Mr. Angeli, such day-to-day


           23              contributions are insufficient to a 17-year


           24              distressed city that has amassed over


           25              $273 million in long-term debt.  I cannot in






            1              good conscious allow Lackawanna College to


            2              continue to financially overburden the


            3              taxpayers by failing to financially


            4              contribute to it's host city.  The City of


            5              Scranton and the Scranton School District


            6              need and deserve cash payments.


            7                      Mr. Angeli further cites a base of


            8              grants, donations, and college funds to


            9              underwrite construction for the


           10              environmental center will being pursued.


           11              Perhaps Mr. Angeli has forgotten that any


           12              government grants the college has received


           13              or will receive for the renovation and/or


           14              construction of any of it's facilities was


           15              given not by a politician, but by the


           16              taxpayers.


           17                      In addition, the blue collar


           18              residents of Scranton largely contribute a


           19              student population to this blue collar


           20              institution as Mr. Angeli himself describes


           21              it.


           22                      Further, police officers in a paid


           23              fire department respond to it's numerous and


           24              regular safety calls.  The streets


           25              surrounding the colleges buildings are






            1              heavily traveled by it's population, but


            2              financially maintained by taxpayers.


            3                      In addition, during the first half


            4              of this decade hundreds of houses of dollars


            5              were allocated to Lackawanna Junior College


            6              for the redevelopment of the Scranton Lace


            7              Works property.  To this moment, we do not


            8              know what occurred with those funds and


            9              today the city seems braced to gift


           10              Lackawanna College with the former Nay Aug


           11              zoo.


           12                      The City of Scranton unequivocally


           13              is a good and generous urban partner.


           14              Undoubtedly, all nonprofits who have


           15              devoured 25 percent of taxable city property


           16              have claimed hardship in any economy


           17              throughout the last few decades and paint a


           18              powerful picture of their mission and


           19              in-kind contributions.


           20                      At the same time, some like


           21              Lackawanna College are listed in the


           22              business directory of the Greater Scranton


           23              Chamber of Commerce.  Nonprofits, like


           24              thousands of other businesses, are members


           25              of the Chamber of Commerce.  It's an odd






            1              relationship.  Unfortunately, the city


            2              quietly accepted too many explanations and


            3              excuses from large nonprofits.  The city can


            4              no longer afford to do so and at some point


            5              in the future this city will have to


            6              negotiate fair payments in lieu of taxes


            7              from the nonprofits just as other host


            8              cities in Pennsylvania and numerous other


            9              states have engaged their colleges and


           10              Universities and received annual payments to


           11              help them survive or provide a plan to lift


           12              distressed status.  This road must be


           13              traveled to ensure a sound financial future


           14              for Scranton.


           15                      Next, council received an audit


           16              status report from Rossi & Company last


           17              week.  There are 13 items for which the city


           18              must provide necessary information and three


           19              items for which the tax office is


           20              responsible as of June 23.  The auditors are


           21              asking for all responses by Monday, July 6,


           22              because they intend to provide the audit


           23              report to council prior to it's recess at


           24              the end of July.


           25                      I am extremely pleased by the






            1              diligent work of Rossi & Sons and I wish to


            2              see the administration and tax office comply


            3              with the deadline.  Therefore, I move that


            4              council send a letter to Stu Renda, Linda


            5              Aebli, OECD director, Jeff Brazil and


            6              Mrs. Vitali-Flynn, tax collector, to request


            7              that all complete information requested by


            8              Sean J. Grazi is sent to the auditor by


            9              July 6, 2009, in order that Scranton City


           10              Council will receive the 2008 audit report


           11              before it recesses on July 28, 2009.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll second that.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           14              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           15                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           19              ayes have it and so moved.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Now, as was


           21              mentioned earlier, the Office of Economic of


           22              Community Development is seeking bids to


           23              lease office space.  Bid openings will be


           24              conducted on Thursday, July 2, at 10 a.m. in


           25              council chambers.  OECD requires a






            1              three-year lease with a three-year renewal


            2              option.  OECD should obtain a price that


            3              significantly reduces it's current lease


            4              costs or consider returning to city hall.


            5                      At the same time, the juvenile


            6              division of the Scranton Police Department


            7              was relocated to the first floor of the


            8              Adam's apartment building.  This building


            9              houses primarily senior citizens who will


           10              now come in contact with juvenile offenders.


           11              It is an inappropriate environment when


           12              senior citizens may in any way incur a


           13              threat to their welfare and safety.  Perhaps


           14              costs may have been a factor in this


           15              decision.  If that is the case, then OECD


           16              must certainly seek similar cost effective


           17              arrangements.


           18                      And finally some requests:  A letter


           19              to OECD requesting a report on CDBG


           20              allocations made to Lackawanna College from


           21              2003 through June 2009.


           22                      Who is responsible for the sidewalk


           23              dropoffs before Buona Pizza and after the


           24              building housing Coney Island?  City


           25              residents have complained that these






            1              sidewalks when traveling from the new


            2              development to the older anchor businesses


            3              on each end of the block create a


            4              significant safety hazard.  Also, whose


            5              responsibility is the insurance in the event


            6              of a fall by a pedestrian.


            7                      Next, I think you have this one,


            8              Neil, send an inspector to Greenridge


            9              Street, the area next to the newly


           10              constructed bank.  It is highly overgrown


           11              and contact the responsible party; and


           12              finally, remove gravity tagging on the


           13              office building in Nay Aug Park, and that's


           14              it.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  I want to speak in


           17              response to Mr. McCloe's comments today.  I


           18              100 percent agree, Brett, it was pretty much


           19              what I was trying to get to last week.  My


           20              question was posed to you because I wanted


           21              everyone to know what it is that you were


           22              saying.  You are someone who works, you are


           23              a worker, as am I and most of the people up


           24              here, most of us are not in management


           25              positions, and that you are benefiting now






            1              and I believe that you did work in a KOZ


            2              benefiting business.  One of the businesses


            3              that you do work for was someone who started


            4              without -- with tax breaks and that's what I


            5              was trying to get to.


            6                      I was trying to get to the point


            7              that this is what it was about.  It's not


            8              about the big developer.  It's not about the


            9              person putting the money into the project.


           10              It's about creating opportunity for the


           11              people who are out there who need these


           12              jobs.  So I understand when the question was


           13              posed to you that it seemed to be that it


           14              was a question of a bad connotation, but it


           15              certainly wasn't.  Speaking as the


           16              hairdresser, as I have been dubbed by most


           17              of the wonderful people on a website, I


           18              think I understand that is what I am, that


           19              is where I came from, and that is where I am


           20              now, so that is what I was trying to get to.


           21              I was trying to get to it's not about the


           22              wealthy developer it was about the people.


           23                      So, in turn, I disagree


           24              wholeheartedly with what the school board


           25              has done.  I believe that that was the most






            1              politically outright worst decision that


            2              they have made since they have been there


            3              outside of a them not putting out any bids


            4              for any projects that they do or giving out


            5              jobs without any, you know, recourse and I'm


            6              going to tell you why.


            7                      I also believe that Mr. Phillips who


            8              gave a very sad, speech which really had


            9              nothing to do, it showed he was missing the


           10              mark on what was really going on, it was a


           11              payback for a friend, a business


           12              acquaintance right down the street who don't


           13              want competition for my friend.  I mean, he


           14              might as well have said that.  I think that


           15              would have been a better way to go about it.


           16                      He also works, it's my belief he


           17              also works in place that was created that


           18              was a LERTA project.  It's okay for him to


           19              support his family with a project that came


           20              out to be a nontaxable project, it was a


           21              LERTA project.  It's okay for him to go to


           22              work every day and support his family, but


           23              yet denied 1,000 citizens of that right.


           24              That to me is not something to be


           25              celebrated.  That to me is a very sad and






            1              lack of understanding for what is going on


            2              in this economy.


            3                      I know that it seems like my


            4              decisions were based on whatever you want to


            5              put the spin on it because you always do,


            6              but I am telling you it was about


            7              opportunity, and I'll tell you in a very


            8              personal level I would like the opportunity


            9              myself.  You know, I'm a single mom.  I


           10              would like that opportunity.  I'm just like


           11              everyone else out there.  I'm struggling on


           12              a daily basis and wouldn't I love to be able


           13              to grow and have something else, so that's


           14              what it was about.


           15                      So I'm not as celebrating as


           16              everyone else is thinking that the school


           17              board made a right decision.  It's very hard


           18              tore me to understand how one project was


           19              very okay to happen, but the one that was


           20              creating the most jobs was not.  That makes


           21              no sense to me at all.  What they did was


           22              they took away our competitive edge to


           23              everyone else and that's the problem.  Like


           24              it or not, there are millions of people out


           25              there all over the country working in these






            1              jobs that are created from these projects,


            2              so I found it a very sad day and a very


            3              telling day and Scranton politics at it's


            4              absolutely worse.


            5                      Accountability is not there.  I have


            6              not seen anything in the paper about it.


            7              They did not investigate or say -- I'll tell


            8              you right now if was here we would have been


            9              splashed all over the paper, but for some


           10              reason it's okay, it's okay to deny us, the


           11              citizens and the taxpayers, opportunity


           12              while you're raising our taxes and while you


           13              are doing no bid contracts and while you are


           14              giving jobs away like they are, you know,


           15              candy.  That's okay there, for some reason


           16              here we are all accountable.


           17                      So, actually, it was are very sad


           18              day for the people of Scranton not to be


           19              rejoyed and everyone out there who is


           20              unemployed and looking for opportunity and


           21              hoping to God that they can put shoes on


           22              their kids feet in the next few weeks when


           23              school comes know that the people who are


           24              educating your children or making the


           25              decisions to educate your children are the






            1              ones who made the most noneducated decision


            2              that has ever and been made in this city.


            3              They didn't attend anything.  They didn't


            4              educate themselves on it, they stuck their


            5              heals in and they did it and it's very sad


            6              day for all of us.


            7                      I also want to speak on the fact


            8              that we -- the double-edged comment that was


            9              made about, you know, we can't say we are


           10              doing well and the people want to be in this


           11              city and also say that we need tax breaks.


           12              That is -- it's not true.  Yes, we love our


           13              city.  Yes, we are doing well, and I hope


           14              that businesses come in every day, but on


           15              the big projects we will miss the mark now,


           16              we are done.  If you think that people are


           17              going to move here with the medical school


           18              instead of going right to Jessup or all of


           19              our surrounding areas who found it very easy


           20              and very willfully wanting these people here


           21              it's just -- it's just sad.  It can't be


           22              both ways, so actually being the fact that


           23              this is what I see every day and I sit in


           24              these negotiations and I watch this happen I


           25              have to say it was very sad, and that is all






            1              I have.  Thank you.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm going to say


            4              that I'm happy that the school district


            5              voted.  The county commissioners voted the


            6              way they did, we all voted here, and the


            7              school board had to vote, so we all stood up


            8              and were counted, you know, so I guess the


            9              people will judge us for the way we vote,


           10              but I was glad that all three bodies voted.


           11              If it did not come out the way that some


           12              people wanted to then it didn't come out the


           13              way some people wanted to.  I guess the only


           14              real way we all know is if, in fact, we try


           15              to run again, you know.  If people think we


           16              did a good job they'll vote for us, if not,


           17              because I always looked at it this way, we


           18              have to vote for all of the people, not just


           19              for the people that voted for us, so I try


           20              to anyway take into consideration all of


           21              them and when I do my voting, but I'm happy


           22              that the school district voted so they stood


           23              up be counted, we all stood up and will be


           24              counted now we will be judged for what we


           25              did and I'll leave it at that with that.






            1                      Kay, I want to ask you if by some


            2              possibility you can ask Mr. Swanson to give


            3              us a report before we break you in August on


            4              the Crisp Avenue bridge because it was


            5              supposed to start to be constructed in


            6              August we were told, so if we can just get


            7              an update.  I've asked about that on more


            8              than one occasion.


            9                      Now, I have one resident in a


           10              problem development asking me if we were to


           11              get a petition to fix the road if that would


           12              work and I told them I didn't know.  If you


           13              are watching I'll try to see about if we can


           14              go about getting the road fixed in another


           15              manner.  If not and you think the petition


           16              is the right way, I will help you get the


           17              signatures on the petition.  I have asked


           18              several times from the DPW to go up there


           19              and fix that road.  It has been patched, but


           20              patching just isn't going to do it.  I have


           21              seen twice now someone go off the road to


           22              try to avoid a person coming up the hill and


           23              I just hope we get it rectified before


           24              someone gets hurt.


           25                      The road dedication for the Keyser






            1              Avenue development, Mary Alice Burke who was


            2              always -- has been for lack of a better word


            3              a watchdog for the Keyser Valley area and


            4              the rest of this city contacted me last


            5              night and she had asked me if I had thought


            6              that all of the conditions were met, and as


            7              far as I knew at that time they were.  I


            8              checked again this morning.  She was going


            9              to talk to some of the people involved back


           10              there, I'm not going to state their names,


           11              to see if they had any concerns.  If they


           12              did she was going to contact me this


           13              morning.  I haven't been contacted by her so


           14              I think it's pretty safe to assume what


           15              Mr. Swanson had told us and my contact with


           16              Mary Alice Burke that everybody for the most


           17              part, I don't know if every single thing,


           18              but everything for the most part is


           19              corrected that we had concerns about.  Some


           20              of them I know for a fact are corrected


           21              because I went and looked myself, but I


           22              think Mary Alice is pretty sharp, she keeps


           23              a close look on everything and she was


           24              contacting the people that actually lived


           25              there and so I haven't heard back from them






            1              so my best judgment would say it's okay to


            2              go ahead and dedicate those roads.


            3                      And one last thing, we had a letter


            4              and I left it in the office today, I wish I


            5              would have brought it with me, Bill


            6              McDonald, who is president of the zoning


            7              board, he sent us a letter thanking for


            8              being appointed to the board and what he


            9              thought the board was and the new members


           10              coming into the board and I thought this was


           11              a man that he had class.  That, you know,


           12              whether or not he wanted to be reappointed


           13              to the board or not, I don't know, but he


           14              wasn't, but he served well.  He went out in


           15              a classy manner and left politics out of it


           16              and I'd just to thank Bill for that letter.


           17              I thought that was one of the most sincere,


           18              nicest letters I remember have seen since I


           19              have been on this council.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, I have to


           21              echo that.  I was very impressed by his


           22              letter and I was very impressed by his


           23              service to the community and I thank him


           24              very much for the years he devoted without


           25              pay to our city and it's people.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You know, the people


            2              that are on the boards whether we appoint


            3              them or the mayor appoints them they don't


            4              get paid, you know, they give of their own


            5              time and I know they get pressure to vote


            6              one way or the other because I get calls


            7              asking some of them asking them to vote one


            8              way or the other, and I think for the most


            9              part they all do what they think is right.


           10              I know Bill McDonald, and again, I just


           11              thank him for that letter and thank him for


           12              his service, and that's all I have.  Thank


           13              you.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I would like to


           15              reiterate what Mr. Courtright said about the


           16              process of the KOZ extensions.  From the


           17              beginning I felt that they needed to be


           18              addressed.  I am happy that they went


           19              through the entire process, that each of the


           20              taxing bodies did confront them and make a


           21              decision.


           22                      I will say that I was obviously


           23              unhappy with the decision of the school


           24              board, but philosophical differences are


           25              often interpreted as personal differences






            1              and in this case that obviously was not the


            2              case.  People felt differently about the


            3              KOZ's and the extensions, we voted as such,


            4              we discussed it, and as far as I'm concerned


            5              at this point in time the decision has been


            6              made and it's finished.  We don't have to be


            7              happy with the results, but we do have to


            8              live with it and we do have to, you know,


            9              move on and hopefully that's what we are


           10              going to do.


           11                      We received a letter from Lomma


           12              Enterprises concerning the railroad cars


           13              that were down off of South Washington


           14              Avenue.  I know it was reported that they


           15              were moved.  The letter from Lomma indicates


           16              that they were moved temporarily and brought


           17              back, so we will attempt to determine why


           18              they were placed back on, you know, in that


           19              area and hopefully rectify the situation in


           20              a more permanent manner.


           21                      As was indicated in this letter,


           22              they are an eyesore, they may prevent anyone


           23              from actually buying the property that is


           24              available in this area because they do


           25              provide or they are such an eyesore and, as






            1              I said, we will attempt to look into this


            2              further as to why they were placed back in


            3              this area.


            4                      MS. EVANS: Mr. McGoff, could I


            5              suggest that we contact Congressman


            6              Kanjorski's office once again?  He seemed to


            7              be the one who really got the ball moving on


            8              this issue after years of battling with the


            9              railroad and all of the individuals and red


           10              tape involved and he did indicate in his


           11              last letter, actually in each of his letters


           12              to us that he would be very happy to assist


           13              us again in the future, and I think we do


           14              need his assistance with this matter yet


           15              again.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I will -- I know


           17              Mrs. Gatelli was involved in the contacting


           18              various people, I will speak to her, and I


           19              will also speak to -- I'll get to


           20              Representative Kanjorski.  I will also talk


           21              to Representative Smith since his business


           22              is also in that general area I'm sure he


           23              would be interested in doing something, but


           24              yes, we will.  I will look into that, and


           25              that's all.  Fifth order.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: 5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION -


            2              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND








            6              SERVICES, L.L.C. TO PURCHASE DATOSPHERE




            8              WITH DELL/ASAP CONTRACT NUMBER 581010 WITH


            9              ANNUAL PAYMENTS OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           11              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be


           12              introduced into it's proper committee.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           16              in favor signify by saying aye.


           17                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           21              ayes have it and so moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           23              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND












            2              RESOURCES ("DCNR") IN THE AMOUNT OF


            3              $8,510.00; SINCE THE APPLICATION WAS






            6              VALLEY AUTHORITY ("LHVA") AND ACCEPTING AND


            7              DISBURSING THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS FOR


            8              THE PROJECT TO BE NAMED AS "TREEVITALIZE"


            9              METROS PROGRAM.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           11              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


           12              introduced into it's proper committee.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           16              in favor signify by saying aye.


           17                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           21              ayes have it and so moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D.  FOR INTRODUCTION -


           23              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND




           25              AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH KNOWLES






            1              ASSOCIATES L.L.C. FOR INSURANCE WITH


            2              NAUTILUS INSURANCE COMPANY FOR CITY


            3              INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE PERIOD JUNE 12,


            4              2009 THROUGH JUNE 12, 2010.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


            6              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be


            7              introduced into it's proper committee.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


           11                      MS. EVANS: I do have some concerns


           12              about the Nautilus Insurance Company.


           13              According to the paperwork council received,


           14              they have not been admitted to transact


           15              business in Pennsylvania and in the event of


           16              insolvency, their insolvency, the


           17              policyholder, which is the city, will be


           18              responsible for all obligations.  I think


           19              council might want to look into this further


           20              before we actually pass this.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: I would say that there


           22              were some legitimate questions raised.  I


           23              would vote for introduction and then


           24              consider it in the -- you know, hopefully


           25              get our questions -- the questions answered






            1              prior to final vote.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: I agree.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Well, this is a


            4              resolution, correct?


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Right.


            6                      MS. EVANS: So it will enjoy final


            7              reading next week.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.


            9                      MS. EVANS: So we need answers by


           10              next week.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  If not we could


           12              hold it.


           13                      MS. EVANS: Well, before we next week


           14              actually.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: I would say if the


           16              answers aren't received by then, then we


           17              could --


           18                      MS. EVANS: Table it.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: -- table it or just vote


           20              it down, you know, too.


           21                      MS. EVANS: On the other hand,


           22              though, I know we've got to move rather


           23              quickly because it's insurance on the water


           24              slide which is operational.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah, let's move it






            1              through this week and we'll make sure we get


            2              our answers by next week.


            3                      All in favor signify by saying aye.


            4                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            8              ayes have it and so moved.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A.


           10              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 73,


           11              2009 - AN ORDINANCE - REMOVAL OF PARKING


           12              METERS LOCATED IN THE 700 BLOCK OF QUINCY




           14              IN THE 900 AND 1000 BLOCKS OF PINE STREET




           16              MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN THE




           18              TAYLOR HOSPITAL ATTACHED HERETO AND


           19              THEREAFTER, TO INSTITUTE DAILY PERMIT




           21                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading


           22              by title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A


           24              pass reading by title.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            2              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            7              ayes have it and so moved.


            8                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A. FOR




           10              WORKS - FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO.


           11              72, 2009 - PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND




           13              LANE, NORFOLK WAY, ROANOKE LANE, ARLINGTON




           15              AS WELL AS ALL THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM


           16              UNDERLYING SAID STREETS AND RIGHTS- OF-WAY;






           19              THE CITY OF SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA; ALSO




           21              CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT FOR THE SUM OF ONE


           22              DOLLAR ($1.00) AND TO RECORD IN THE OFFICIAL


           23              RECORDS AT THE OFFICE OF THE RECORDER OF










            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the


            2              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            3              Committee on Public Works?


            4                      MS. EVANS: As Chair for the


            5              Committee on Public Works, I recommend final


            6              passage of Item 7-A.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            9              call, please?


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


           13              Fanucci.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           19              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION


           21              BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY - FOR


           22              ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 112, 2009 -


           23              AUTHORIZE THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO MAKE


           24              APPLICATION TO THE COMMONWEALTH OF








            1              FOR A PERMIT TO INSTALL AND OPERATE A




            3              LINDEN STREET (S.R. 3020) AND NORTH EIGHTH




            5              CORPORATE CENTER.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the


            7              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            8              Committee on Public Safety?


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Chairperson for


           10              the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend


           11              final passage of Item 7-B.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


           14                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  If we fail to pass


           15              this legislation today, would it not prevent


           16              PennDOT from installing a light that seems


           17              to be so hazardous in the opinion of many


           18              residents of the area?


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  We felt that way, too,


           20              but once PennDOT came out said, you know, I


           21              mean, that's their job and obviously they


           22              know a little bit more about the engineering


           23              than we do, so once they came out and said


           24              that they believe it's a very sorely needed


           25              and mandatory.  I mean, I understand our






            1              views, too, I mean, it doesn't make sense,


            2              but I believe that they are more equipped to


            3              knowing what the job, you know, the


            4              engineering process is.


            5                      MS. EVANS: I absolutely agree with


            6              that.  Certainly I'm no engineer --


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah.


            8                      MS. EVANS: -- and they are the


            9              individuals with the expertise in this


           10              situation which is why, you know, I guess I


           11              am just a little troubled.  I recall,


           12              Mr. Courtright, do you remember the


           13              situation in Minooka, Pittson Avenue, Birney


           14              Avenue, the two lanes that run in one


           15              direction and we note this moment in time


           16              cars far exceed the speed limit and it makes


           17              it so dangerous for pedestrian crossings and


           18              there have been how many accidents because


           19              of that, and yet I remember how many times,


           20              Mr. Courtright, you and I, even


           21              Mr. McTiernan --


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. Pocius.


           23                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Pocius --


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Everyone.


           25                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Pocius, Gaynor






            1              Cawley, we went time after time to the


            2              PennDOT offices, sat at a round table


            3              discussion of about 25 people begging for a


            4              solution to provide safety for that area of


            5              Minooka and PennDOT did nothing.  You know,


            6              evidently thinks it's quite safe.  So, you


            7              know, every once in awhile you might have to


            8              wonder about the some of the decisions of


            9              the experts.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think what this


           11              comes down to, and I hate to even say this,


           12              is the lesser of two evils.  They have to


           13              allow the people to exit from this


           14              development somehow.


           15                      MS. EVANS: Right.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And I had hoped that


           17              they would put stop signs.  It's the


           18              engineer's opinion that stop sings would be


           19              even more dangerous because if you are


           20              coming say, for instance, coming down the


           21              hill and somebody was exiting at the stop


           22              sign and they didn't see you because it's a


           23              little bit blind when you come over the


           24              hill, if they start pulling out, and we are


           25              talking wintertime, that's the concern with






            1              everybody is the wintertime, right?  If


            2              somebody was pulling out and they didn't see


            3              the car coming down the hill and they pulled


            4              out now that person is coming over the hill


            5              moving at a high rate of speed they are not


            6              going to be able to stop, so I'm not happy


            7              about the light, but the way they explained


            8              it I guess we need some way, they have come


            9              out and exit onto Linden Street somehow from


           10              that new development which I'm assuming even


           11              though it didn't get KOZ is still going to


           12              go through, so I couldn't come up with a


           13              better solution than that.  I'm not happy


           14              about it, but they have to be able to exit


           15              out of there somehow.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  Then we have to trust


           17              them.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We have to hope they


           19              are right on this one not like Birney


           20              Avenue.


           21                      MS. EVANS: And then once it's


           22              installed God forbid there are problems with


           23              it, PennDOT I'm not sure would have to make


           24              alterations.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm asking that they






            1              put signs up warning people that would be


            2              coming down that hill that there is going to


            3              be a light in the middle of that hill.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            6                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


            8              Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           14              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION


           16              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           17              RESOLUTION NO. 155, 2009 - AUTHORIZING THE




           19              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO ON BEHALF OF THE








           23              ("BNYM") AGREEMENT TO AUTHORIZE ACCESS TO












            2              AND FIREFIGHTERS.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  As Chair for the


            4              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


            5              passage of Item 7-C.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            8              call, please?


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           10                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


           12              Fanucci.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           18              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


           19                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D.  FOR CONSIDERATION


           20              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           21              RESOLUTION NO. 156, 2009- APPOINTING STEVEN


           22              KOCHIS, 531 HICKORY STREET, SCRANTON,


           23              PENNSYLVANIA, 18505, AS A MEMBER OF THE


           24              BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR THE CITY OF


           25              SCRANTON.  MR. KOCHIS WILL REPLACE BILL






            1              MACDONALD, WHOSE TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 15,


            2              2009.  MR. KOCHIS TERM WILL COMMENCE ON JULY


            3              16, 2009 AND EXPIRE ON JULY 16, 2014.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  As Chair for the


            5              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


            6              passage of Item 7-D.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            9              call, please?


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


           13              Fanucci.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           19              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 7-E. FOR CONSIDERATION


           21              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           22              RESOLUTION NO. 157, 2009 - APPOINTING


           23              SUZANNE ANDRES, 323 BIRCH STREET, SCRANTON,


           24              PENNSYLVANIA, 18505, AS ALTERNATE NO. 2


           25              MEMBER TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR






            1              THE CITY OF SCRANTON.  MS. ANDRES WILL FILL




            3              TERM EXPIRES ON JUNE 1, 2010.  MS. ANDRES


            4              TERM WILL COMMENCE ON JULY 16, 2009


            5              AND WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 1, 2010.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  As Chair for the


            7              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


            8              passage of Item 7-E.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           11              call, please?


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.  Ms.


           15              Fanucci.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           21              Item 7-E legally and lawfully adopted.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Motion to adjourn.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Thank you


           24              for your participation.








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            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            8   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

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