1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday, May 26, 2009




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                   Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania











































                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and


            2              moment of reflection observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please.


            4                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Fanucci.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


            8                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. McGoff.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.


           10                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Ms. Gatelli.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Here.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Dispense with the


           15              reading of the minutes.  Third Order.


           16                      MS. GARVEY: 3-A.  TAX COLLECTION




           18              TAX OFFICE ON MAY 11, 2009.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           20              If not, received and filed.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. APPLICATIONS AND




           23              BOARD MEETING HELD ON MAY 13, 2009.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           25              If not, received and filed.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. CONTROLLER'S REPORT


            2              FOR THE MONTH ENDING APRIL 30, 2009.


            3                       MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            4              If not, received and filed.


            5                      MS. GARVEY:  3-D. MINUTES OF THE




            7              APRIL 22, 2009.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            9              If not, received and filed.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: 3-E. AGENDA FOR THE




           12              10, 2009.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           14              If not, received and filed.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           16              Order.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Any


           18              announcements from anyone?


           19                      MS. GATELLI: Just two things. First


           20              of all, I would like to congratulate Mrs.


           21              Evans on her win for city council, and I


           22              would like to congratulate Mr.  Courtright


           23              who is our new tax collector.


           24                       Please remember in your prayers for


           25              Mr. Sam Cali, I don't think if any of you






            1              knew him, but he certainly was a


            2              philanthropist in the community for many,


            3              many years and if you had the pleasure of


            4              knowing him or meeting him you would have


            5              known his kindness and his love for his


            6              community, and I'm sure you read his


            7              obituary, which was several columns long.


            8              He is a certainly a tribute and we should


            9              recognize him here at this council meeting.


           10                      Also, I would like you to keep in


           11              your prayers my former priest at St.


           12              Francis, Monsignor Anthony Marra.  He was at


           13              our church for 25 years and then went to St.


           14              Anthony's in Dunmore and I'd like you to


           15              please remember him in your prayers.  He was


           16              truly a wonderful man and did very good


           17              things for St. Francis of Assisi and for St.


           18              Anthony's in Dunmore, and that's all I have.


           19              Thank you.


           20                      MS. EVANS: I'd like to welcome a new


           21              business, Sharon's Restaurant, to Scranton.


           22              It opened a few days ago and is located at


           23              411 South Washington Avenue across from CB


           24              Scott, and I learned their hours are 6:30 to


           25              2:30 and I do wish Sharon's Restaurant good






            1              luck and great successes in the future.


            2                      The Upper Hill Ecumenical Committee


            3              will conduct one additional Friendly's fun


            4              night on Wednesday, June 10, from 5 to 8


            5              p.m. at Friendly's in Dunmore.  This will be


            6              the last fun night until the fall and will


            7              salute Monsignor Sicanolfi and St. Francis


            8              of Assisi food kitchen.  Please remember


            9              there is no summer vacation at the food


           10              kitchen.  Your support would be greatly


           11              appreciated.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: My apologies, I had


           13              something for the Relay for Life, the dates


           14              at home, and in my haste to get here I left


           15              it.  Please take a look in the newspaper.


           16              Relay for Life is something that's held


           17              every year and it's a great benefit to the


           18              community and it's a wonderful cause and if


           19              I haven't missed the date I will try and


           20              have it for next week.


           21                      I'd like to also announce that on


           22              June 21, Father's Day, there is going to be


           23              the initial -- hopefully, initial Father's


           24              Day five-mile run conducted by the Prostate


           25              Cancer Awareness Alliance.  The proceeds of






            1              the event will benefit prostate cancer


            2              awareness.  The race director is a prostate


            3              cancer survivor, Bob Reslin, and many of the


            4              people working on the event are also


            5              prostate cancer survivors.  We are hoping to


            6              have a great race and we put some work into


            7              it and just keep it in mind and maybe


            8              runners can go to Active.com or NEPA


            9              Runners.com or also PCAANEPA.org and there's


           10              a link to the race.  We would welcome any


           11              support, any participants or volunteers for


           12              the race, and thank you.  Fourth order,


           13              citizens' participation.  Mike Dudek.


           14                      MR. DUDEK: Mike Dudek, 608 Depot


           15              Street, I live here in the Plot.  Again,


           16              congratulations to Mrs. Evans on her


           17              victory, Mr. Courtright on your victory and


           18              you will have our best wishes that you will


           19              be able to bring some stability to the


           20              office that you will be entering into and we


           21              know that it needs help.  Good luck to you,


           22              Mr. Courtright.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.


           24                      MR. DUDEK:  Now, the last time that


           25              I spoke on the topic similar to this was in






            1              December of 2009 when we had our new council


            2              first sworn in, and I pointed out to the new


            3              members at the time that when you take an


            4              office like this a council person gets more


            5              heat, more flack and more problems than any


            6              other elected official because you are where


            7              the rubber meets the road.  You have the


            8              most obvious direct contact with the


            9              citizens that come to address you about any


           10              issue, and that in a sense you have to


           11              surrender some of your own First Amendment


           12              Rights of freedom of speech and take the


           13              brick bats that are coming your way because


           14              95 percent of the people that come to use


           15              this, this mic, have a problem, and people


           16              who have a problem usually have some sort of


           17              pain attached to it.


           18                      And even if the assaults on you as


           19              council people are unfair, it was up to you


           20              to suck it up on take it, and I honestly


           21              think that the election results showed that


           22              some of you were not able to take the heat


           23              and that's the only reason why you did lose.


           24              I hate to say it, but it's true.  Two good


           25              people just didn't do the job the right way






            1              and this is a result of it.  You should have


            2              paid attention when I mentioned this to you.


            3                      Nevertheless, we now have a council


            4              that's a lame duck council because come


            5              December two of you are gone, but we still


            6              have city business between now and December


            7              when the changeover comes to keep a breast


            8              of, and I'm going to ask on behalf of


            9              everybody in this city to please work


           10              together.


           11                      And I'm going to give you one issue


           12              to think about where you can all work


           13              together with the mayor because I found one


           14              issue where believe it or not Mayor Doherty


           15              is right on target.  How many of you here


           16              who ever heard of the town of Renton,


           17              Washington?  Anybody on council?  Did you


           18              ever hear of the town of Renton,


           19              R-E-N-T-O-N?  Anybody here?  One person.


           20              Renton, Washington, has a bigger library


           21              than Scranton does and Renton, Washington,


           22              is probably no bigger than Dunmore.  If you


           23              go to the library in Renton, Washington,


           24              it's a remarkable building because a river


           25              runs under it.  The building was






            1              architecturally designed to straddle a


            2              river, it's an architectural gem in the town


            3              of Renton and they have a brand new library.


            4                      We have Mayor Doherty dragging our


            5              two county commissioners along with him on


            6              the idea of building a library and this is


            7              the absolute optimum time to strike.  The


            8              reason is because of stimulus money.


            9              Because of that, we have a very unique


           10              opportunity, a very small window of time to


           11              get the library.  We get this library by


           12              doing a couple of things:


           13                      Number one, we get Lackawanna Junior


           14              College on board by promising them that if


           15              we get a library built in South Side,


           16              Lackawanna County College, will be given the


           17              Albright Memorial Library for it's college


           18              library.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: They can't.


           20                      MR. DUDEK:  Why not?


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Because it's -- we


           22              can't deed that to anyone else.


           23                      MR. DUDEK: Pardon?


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: That library cannot be


           25              given to anyone else.






            1                      MR. DUDEK: Which one, the Albright?


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes.  Yes.


            3                      MR. DUDEK: Okay.  So even if that


            4              can't be done this library could be built


            5              with federal money with very little or no


            6              money from the state or the City of Scranton


            7              and for the naysayers here who don't believe


            8              me, I brought $23 million worth of flood


            9              money in here along with Tom Preambo and not


           10              one penny of it came from the city and not


           11              one penny of it came from the state and Tom


           12              and I were both honored by the state


           13              assembly, by the general assembly for doing


           14              it.


           15                      What I am telling you is that this


           16              library could be built without any pain to


           17              the taxpayers because stimulus money is out


           18              there for the project and I think that if


           19              people work together when the mayor and the


           20              county commissioners to go after it you can


           21              still build it.  I think that this is


           22              something that should be pursued, okay?


           23                      As to the Albright library, even if


           24              you can't deed it to the school I think it's


           25              possible to give that college maximum access






            1              to it so that they can work together with


            2              it.  Thank you.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Andy Sbaraglia.


            4                      MR. SBARAGALI:  Andy Sbaraglia,


            5              citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians, I


            6              wish you would read some of the money coming


            7              in from the tax collection comparison


            8              report.  You would find out if that holds


            9              true for the end of the year there will be


           10              no hole in the budget.  In fact, there will


           11              be a surplus, and it's true.  The figures


           12              coming in or astronomical over what they


           13              were a year ago.  I wish you would read that


           14              out to the people so they know what that


           15              office is doing no matter who is going to be


           16              in charge of it.  It has to continue


           17              somewhat like it's doing now to generate


           18              money coming into this place.  In fact, if


           19              we had all of the money that we were


           20              supposed to be getting there wouldn't have


           21              been no taxes raised.


           22                      Okay, let's go to -- I'm not going


           23              to get into that too much and that's your


           24              5-C, the places and business, I just was


           25              laughing about what I read in it.  It said






            1              they have to give one more job, but 51


            2              percent of that job has to low interest.  If


            3              I could figure out how to cut a person in


            4              half so we got 51 percent there and


            5              49 percent the other side, it's sounds like


            6              a solid deal that you would come in.  She


            7              knows how to do the cut that way.


            8                      Okay, let's go onto 6-A, Reading by


            9              Title, this is the money coming in:  We got


           10              $1,401,886 for -- I assume -- from what I


           11              read in this thing it's supposed to be for


           12              the homeless and for people who are going to


           13              lose their homes.  It is it right or wrong?


           14              I haven't looked at how that money was


           15              divided?  All I know is that's what it said


           16              in the backup, and the other $916,485 we can


           17              lend out to whoever we want to lend it out


           18              to because as long as it complies with HUD's


           19              regulations, from what I read.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           21                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Now, I don't know how


           22              the money is being divided out, but I wish


           23              you people would find out how it would be


           24              divided out and come here and speak to the


           25              people, come and tell them how it's being






            1              divided because we are all in the dark about


            2              what happens in the backup.  I read the


            3              backup, but 99 percent of the people in


            4              Scranton do not read the backup.  It's too


            5              bad it's not on the internet and getting in


            6              there where you can draw it all over.  It's


            7              quite cumbersome in some places.  There is


            8              like 100 pages there almost -- I shouldn't


            9              say that, but at least 30 pages just for


           10              that $20,000.  It's just standard logistics


           11              I guess, so it has to be in there and it's


           12              very, very redundant, but the basic was,


           13              like I said before, 25,000 to this


           14              restaurant that's open now, but the one


           15              employee.  I don't know, it's just sort of


           16              funny.


           17                      Okay, let's go on now.  He mentioned


           18              the library.  I wouldn't mention the library


           19              too much because right now it's something


           20              that may or may not be in the works, but


           21              what gets me is when we built our new high


           22              school or we built any schools, why isn't


           23              the library put on the first floor able to


           24              be sealed off from the rest of the building


           25              and open at night?  We would have so many






            1              more libraries available at night.  Why


            2              don't they do that?  But, people don't think


            3              when they do things.  That's the problem


            4              with any organization that seems to be in


            5              this city.  They don't go farther than their


            6              nose.  I don't know why they do that, but


            7              they do do that, and we could have one -- we


            8              could have a library down there at the new


            9              school.  We are building a school I think up


           10              there in West Side again, that could have


           11              been designed with a small library and so


           12              forth and so on, but we don't do that.  We


           13              like to keep building new stuff, but like I


           14              said before, the political parties exist for


           15              one purpose and not necessarily to help us.


           16                      Patronage and contracts, so that's


           17              why we get these buildings being built all


           18              over creation not because it's really going


           19              to help the people, that's only something


           20              that may happen.  I don't know what we going


           21              to do, where -- that 16 million has to come


           22              from somewhere.  It's nice to see somebody


           23              comes up and say there is 16 million, go and


           24              do what you want to do, but it's not a fact.


           25              The location is not necessarily the best,






            1              I'm sorry, Judy.  South Side is not


            2              necessarily the best, it should be down in


            3              the central city somewhere where the whole


            4              city can come to it because really -- I


            5              thank you.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Mr. Spindler.


            7                      MR. SPINDLER:  Les Spindler,


            8              resident and homeowner and taxpayer.  I,


            9              too, would like to congratulate


           10              Mr. Courtright and Mrs. Evans on their


           11              wonderful victories and, Mr. Courtright,


           12              good luck in your new position, you got your


           13              work cut out for you.


           14                      First of all, I want to talk about


           15              something we were supposed to a long time.


           16              The Friday before the election, Attorney


           17              Chris Cullen called Steve Corbett of WILK


           18              talk radio and was talking about the stolen


           19              political signs of Gary DiBileo.  He said


           20              the police have finished their


           21              investigation, they have identified two


           22              people who stole the signs, they have two


           23              videotapes of the people, they have


           24              identified the two people, Mr. Cullen said


           25              they are connected to the Scranton Police






            1              Department, the report was given to Ray


            2              Hayes, to Chief Elliott and the mayor, the


            3              report has been sitting on their desks for


            4              weeks, nothing has been done.  This is a


            5              crime that's been committed and these people


            6              covered it up because these people that were


            7              in the video are also connected to Chris


            8              Doherty, and they covered is up because they


            9              didn't want Chris Doherty's name smeared.


           10                      And the Chief and Ray Hayes should


           11              resign because they are covering up a crime


           12              and not doing their job, they should be


           13              fired or resign and they should be arrested


           14              for covering up a crime, and the mayor


           15              should resign also because he knows about


           16              it, and this is fact because Steve Corbett


           17              has a copy of the report and WNEP has a copy


           18              of the report, and I know this for a fact,


           19              so I think council should send a letter to


           20              those involved here asking that charges be


           21              pressed against these people that stole the


           22              signs.


           23                      Moving on, that same week a woman, I


           24              won't say her name, but she said she lives


           25              on the corner of Greenridge Street and






            1              Washington Avenue, I'll make this quick


            2              because it's a long story, she and her


            3              husband were called to put Doherty signs in


            4              their yard, they said, "No, we are not


            5              putting anybody's signs in our yard."


            6                      Two days later on a Sunday morning


            7              the woman went out to get her Sunday paper,


            8              there were approximately 68 stickers she


            9              said, Doherty stickers, on her front porch,


           10              on her fence, and this is not me saying it,


           11              it's her, a police report was filed.  Her


           12              husband was out of town, two days later the


           13              husband came home, the wife heard him


           14              arguing outside with somebody, she comes


           15              running out and the person with the stickers


           16              was back again in their driveway, they


           17              caught him red-handed and I'm not going to


           18              mention names, but this person is a very,


           19              very close relative of the mayor.  It just


           20              shows this mayor will do anything to win a


           21              campaign.  It's unbelievable.  He is so


           22              underhanded, so corrupt, it's just


           23              unbelievable.


           24                      And here is another example of his


           25              corruption, on election day the Aroma Cafe






            1              on Mulberry Street was giving out flyers,


            2              "Vote for Chris Doherty, we'll give you a


            3              ride to the polls and a free panini."


            4                      This was stopped by a judge.  A


            5              judge told them to stop it because it's


            6              illegal.  This is many things that Chris


            7              Doherty has done illegal in his whole career


            8              as mayor and nothing has been done.  Charges


            9              should be brought against him for running a


           10              campaign like this and whoever else is


           11              involved, and this is all fact because a


           12              copy of that flyer was faxed to Steve


           13              Corbett and he read it on the air.


           14                      Next thing, I have to talk about the


           15              library, also.  I have to disagree with


           16              Mr. Dudek, with today's technology we do not


           17              need a new library.  How many people go to


           18              the library to study?  Almost every


           19              household has a computer in it.  You can get


           20              more on the computer than you can with a


           21              library.  I totally disagree.  We don't a


           22              need a new library, our Albright library is


           23              just fine, and where are we going to get


           24              $16 million anyway?  I guess that's all I


           25              have.  Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Jim Stucker.


            2                      MR. STUCKER:  I'm glad I voted for


            3              Janet and Courtright.  I voted for the other


            4              two guys, so I feel sorry about Gary


            5              DiBileo, he lost, but I hope he got another


            6              chance, I'd be happy.  Now back to our


            7              holes, Mayor Doherty has got to do something


            8              for the city now.  I heard he got back in to


            9              be a mayor now he's got to do something.  We


           10              got to get these roads fixed.  Where is the


           11              money going where these holes can be fixed?


           12              Like, I was over at Greenridge the other day


           13              and I was riding the side roads and the


           14              roads were full of holes.  They got to --


           15              Mayor Doherty he's -- -where is this money


           16              going?  That's what I'd like to know?  Where


           17              is the money going?  He should do something


           18              for these roads.


           19                      Now, if Gary DiBileo he would have


           20              gotten something done for the city.  He


           21              would.  No if's about it.  You got to work


           22              with the man now.  If you are don't work


           23              with him he's not going to do nothing, get


           24              the lights fixed, gets the roads, don't


           25              worry about Nay Aug Park, that should be out






            1              of his mind now.  The garbage has got to be


            2              picked up.  I have been riding around with


            3              my buddy Pat today, the garbage ain't picked


            4              up like it's supposed to be.  And they are


            5              complaining about the dogs, about building


            6              the thing up at the park, the dog cage or


            7              something like that, he's got to do


            8              something I don't know care.  And that red


            9              house on Greenridge never got tore down.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I know, Jim, it


           11              should be torn town.  They boarded it up,


           12              though.


           13                      MR. STUCKER: He's got to tear it


           14              down.  The other thing is right there by the


           15              corner of Greenridge Street there is two big


           16              houses there.  They should be tore down,


           17              too, because it's abandoned houses.  So you


           18              got to do something.  I don't care what.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, Jim.


           20                      MR. STUCKER: Pat told me he said for


           21              both of you he is glad both of you won.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Tell him we said


           23              thanks, all right.


           24                      MR. STUCKER: I had a good time at


           25              the party, at Gary's.  Yeah.  Yeah.  I






            1              didn't see Janet there.  I wish she was


            2              there.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Where?


            4                      MR. STUCKER:  At DiBileo's party at


            5              the Taurus Club.


            6                      MS. EVANS: At the Taurus Club.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: She was sick, Jim.


            8                      MR. STUCKER: I know.  Yeah.  All


            9              right.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, Jim.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Stephanie Gawel.


           13                      MS. GAWEL:  Good evening, Council.


           14              First, I'd like to say what an Honor and


           15              privilege it was working for Gary DiBileo's


           16              campaign, I worked a lot.  I met a lot of


           17              nice, nice people out there, it was -- it


           18              really very educational.


           19                      Second, I'd like to congratulate


           20              Mrs. Evans and Mr. Courtright, and I would


           21              like to wish Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. Fanucci


           22              well in their future endeavors.


           23                      All right, now the nice part is


           24              over.  Mayor Doherty continues to sell the


           25              Irish charm and lie to the city and






            1              continues to divide the city.  Again, I


            2              encourage the people of Scranton to call the


            3              Times Leader, start getting the Saturday


            4              paper which will eventually maybe cause --


            5              get a second paper in the City of Scranton


            6              because as far as I'm concerned the only one


            7              that was pathetic and obstructionist,


            8              etcetera, was the Scranton Times.  Again, I


            9              had cancelled the paper, they continue to


           10              deliver it, I believe that editorial page is


           11              their for their opinions not the whole


           12              paper.


           13                      I would like to address some


           14              comments that were made two weeks ago.  I


           15              write my own thoughts.  I do not speak -- I


           16              do speak with other speakers.  They are


           17              nice, but as it was said, the same people.


           18              That's why I continually encourage other


           19              people to come and speak.  I also, again,


           20              believe that Mrs. Williams is entitled to


           21              her opinion, but she comes in with such hate


           22              and disgust that it's hard to listen to her.


           23                      I would also like to address former


           24              mayor Dave Wenzel.  I want to say that I and


           25              a lot of other people have lost a lot of






            1              respect for you.  For you to endorse a man


            2              who is does not support the men and women


            3              who put their lives on the line keeping the


            4              citizens of the Scranton safe from crime and


            5              fires and etcetera, is appalling to me.


            6                      He put his life on the line and he


            7              paid the price and yet he doesn't seem to


            8              think that it's necessary to either look


            9              after our firemen or our policemen when you


           10              are endorsing Mayor Doherty, and that's


           11              ashame, and they are not scare tactics when


           12              you know what's going on in South Side,


           13              etcetera and when you know that it's just


           14              nonsense and I can't believe that he ever


           15              did that.


           16                      And that's it for tonight.  I just


           17              needed to vent tonight and wish everybody


           18              well and I will see you next week.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Ron Ellman.


           20                      MS. ELLMAN: Ronnie Ellman,


           21              homeowner, member of the Taxpayers'


           22              Association.  Well, isn't a great mystery


           23              how some things turned out, I'm talking


           24              about the election.  I have had several


           25              people ask me what it's like to have to eat






            1              my words.  I don't think, you know, I don't


            2              think I have to eat my words.  Mayor Doherty


            3              won the battle and lost the war.  He is like


            4              a lame duck mayor for the next four years,


            5              so he is useless.  He has no -- nothing to


            6              offer his supporters anymore.  To me, I'm


            7              going to read this:  Doherty ran a


            8              deplorable, despicable, disgusting, filthy


            9              dirty campaign against two very good and


           10              honorable men that out to be proud of the


           11              way they ran theirs.  These two men only


           12              offered the city hope and inspiration, not


           13              no 30 or 40 years of continuous debt.


           14                      You know, tomorrow morning I look in


           15              the mirror and I see this old face that's


           16              wore out two or three bodies, but when I


           17              leave if i goes someplace I have the warmth


           18              and friendship and shake hands with people


           19              and give some guys a hug that Doherty would


           20              never sincerely have, did just won't have it


           21              like that.  When he looked in that mirror, I


           22              don't know, he is just going to see a cold,


           23              unfriendly, just the atmosphere he gives


           24              out.


           25                      I read in the paper where he wants






            1              to run against Kanjorski and has


            2              aspirations, it seems like one of the


            3              prerequisites in this state to run for


            4              governor you have to be the worst absolute


            5              mayor the city ever had like Philadelphia,


            6              you know, and that's -- he sure fills the


            7              shoes there, but if he runs against


            8              Kanjorski, who I didn't vote and I don't


            9              like, that man will eat him up and spit him


           10              out in little piece, and it won't be like


           11              running against Mr. DiBileo, and I believe


           12              that we'll see a lot of Mr. DiBileo when


           13              Chris Doherty is gone and forgotten.


           14                      And about the library, I'm in favor


           15              of it, but not in no wore out old bank


           16              building and not in South Side.  The library


           17              should be where everybody could get to it


           18              and get so many people and the children


           19              especially come to the library in buses.


           20              It's a lot easier to go downtown than it is


           21              to ride all over the place and there is only


           22              going to be "X" amount of stimulus dollars.


           23              I keep reading and hearing we have stimulus


           24              dollars coming for this, that and the other


           25              thing.  It's limited for crying out loud.






            1              How much do you think we are going to get?


            2                      I would like to see Mr. Doherty


            3              promote a library, and I wish we could do


            4              something about a zoo, but that's further


            5              down the road, but I would rather see money


            6              given for the zoo than the trains out there,


            7              and I went to the trains once, I don't know,


            8              10, 15 years ago and it was very enjoyable,


            9              but I have never had any desire to go back,


           10              but like I said, a zoo for is for children


           11              and families and they will come and come and


           12              come and never quit coming because I grew up


           13              in Memphis and that's how it was for


           14              families, it was just a family thing you


           15              went to and it was always different, and


           16              it's just sad that we couldn't, you know, we


           17              couldn't keep the little one we had.  I


           18              understand both sides of the argument, but I


           19              wish Mrs. Evans and Mr. Courtright the best.


           20              Can I come to your office and show you my


           21              paperwork?  Nobody else paid in attention to


           22              me.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You are not going to


           24              end up on the floor, are you?


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Ronnie, what does your






            1              shirt say?


            2                      MR. ELLMAN: Pardon?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Pull your shirt down,


            4              we can't see what it says.  Your shirt.  We


            5              need to know what your shirt says.


            6                      MS. ELLMAN: I don't know what it


            7              says.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: "I'm smiling because I


            9              have no idea what's going on."


           10                      MR. ELLMAN: Miss Rosie puts things


           11              out for me.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: That's so cute.


           13                      MR. ELLMAN: If I come in here I will


           14              put two socks out or anything, purple with


           15              stripes.  And let me tell you something


           16              embarrassing real quick, when I took my Army


           17              physical all of these big guys are standing


           18              there with little briefs on, my momma used


           19              to buy me these boxer shorts in all


           20              different colors and stripes and everything


           21              and I looked like a fool.  I did.  I looked


           22              like a fool standing there, but what are you


           23              going to do.  Thank you.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Brett McCloe.


           25                      MR. MCCLOE: Good evening.  My name






            1              is Brett McCloe, Scranton, Pennsylvania


            2              taxpayer.  First off, I would like to say


            3              congratulations to Mrs. Evans and


            4              Mr. Courtright for their victories in last


            5              week's primary, but I also want to


            6              congratulate Mr. DiBileo for running a


            7              campaign based on the hope of returning to


            8              fiscally responsible city government and


            9              restoring faith in the universal time-tested


           10              methods it takes to achieve that goal, but


           11              unfortunately 52 percent of the voters of


           12              this city, including strangely enough some


           13              Republicans, who voted more like opportunist


           14              than those with conservative principals,


           15              they along with a lot of Democrats didn't,


           16              couldn't or wouldn't consider the merits of


           17              progress through fiscal responsibility as


           18              fixed on shiny things associated with the


           19              perception of progress.  They couldn't see


           20              the forest for the trees.


           21                      Two weeks ago Miss Fanucci said


           22              something I sort of agreed with.  She said


           23              something very compelling that helped me


           24              understand and realize even more that our


           25              city is a living, breathing organism that






            1              mimics our actions and is not unlike the


            2              humans that are charged with this operation.


            3                      A study and comparison was made


            4              between how she saw herself and the City of


            5              Scranton, not word for word, but in the


            6              sense she said everyone wishes for something


            7              different and has their own opinions about


            8              the progress of this city and how this city


            9              should be run.


           10                      Next she said every morning when she


           11              gets up she wishes she was a size six, but


           12              when she looks in the mirror it just isn't


           13              so.  This statement really has nothing to do


           14              with her or anyone's weight problems and


           15              neither do my comments.  To me, it's about


           16              the fiscal health of a living, breathing


           17              organism called Scranton.  It made we think,


           18              what would it be like to be a size six city


           19              in comparison to our present fiscal health?


           20              What is a size six city?  How do we get


           21              there and do we fully understand the


           22              sacrifices and hard work it would take to


           23              turn a wish into a dream then turn that


           24              dream into a reality.


           25                      Over the past seven years this city






            1              has looked in the mirror and developed a new


            2              model, let's fake it until we make it, and


            3              learn to surround and cloak itself with


            4              expensive tax exempt buildings, businesses


            5              and institutions of higher learning that


            6              gobbled up the city like a virus because of


            7              a belief in the trickle down theory that in


            8              reality evaporates up as much tax dollars as


            9              Mr. Doherty can provide under the guise of


           10              economic development and what trickles down


           11              is not enough to develop a stable economy.


           12                      This poverty sustaining policy


           13              forges visions of economic prosperity that


           14              may or may not do the body good.  I fear a


           15              six-month scorched earth spending and


           16              borrowing campaign that will further bloat


           17              our city and force us into even more debt,


           18              perhaps downtown will get a Ferris wheel and


           19              cotton candy street lamps to show the world


           20              that Scranton is a great place to live and


           21              they will ooh and ah as the citizens of this


           22              city watch our tax dollars explode and


           23              disintegrate in the air like fireworks.  At


           24              any rate, there is a new day coming and the


           25              good news is the people of this city have






            1              voted to get on the treadmill to economic


            2              recovery through fiscal responsibility even


            3              though we elected to do so with a doughnut


            4              in our hand.  Thank you.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.


            6                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening.  Marie


            7              Schumacher, resident and member of the


            8              Taxpayers' Association.  I'd like to start


            9              with some good news, unlike last year, the


           10              Scranton High School did participate in the


           11              Armed Services parade this year and I was


           12              very happy to see that as did a number of


           13              other high schools, however, what was


           14              disappointing was that for Memorial Day the


           15              city website, the parks and recreation page,


           16              chose to feature and promote a wrestling


           17              match to be held sometime in the future and


           18              not the Nay Aug services, and to add insult


           19              to injury, they provided an incorrect time


           20              for the service.  They were only off by an


           21              hour and a half.  I think the IT needs to do


           22              a whole lot better than what they have been


           23              doing.


           24                      And now to my favorite subject, the


           25              Ice Box deal.  To refresh, back six years






            1              ago in January we were told that this was


            2              the Ice Box deal:  $600,000 for 99 years at


            3              $1 a year until the city moved the DPW at


            4              which time Mr. Burke is obligated to buy the


            5              land for whatever balance is left on the


            6              lease.  So six from $600,000 you can do the


            7              math, that's what Mr. Burke owes us.


            8                      I have been asking why back in,


            9              again, three years ago in 2006 city council


           10              never even introduced the resolution that


           11              was sent to them, and I'm glad they did


           12              because it would have extended these


           13              payments out forever and it had no interest,


           14              but that aside, apparently, when it was sent


           15              back there were no instructions on what


           16              council liked or disliked about it and any


           17              instructions to return it apparently.


           18                      You have had Mr. Minora on the 28th


           19              of last month almost a whole month ago, Mr.


           20              Minora said, "I spoke to Mr. Greco twice and


           21              the last conversation he had with me was


           22              that he did not believe --" did not believe,


           23              not did not know, "but did not believe the


           24              prerequisites triggering payment had


           25              occurred yet.  All of them hadn't occurred,






            1              at least that's what he felt, and there was


            2              one portion of it that he wanted to look and


            3              he was going to get back to me."


            4                      I did a Right-to-Know to the open


            5              records officer for the Scranton


            6              Redevelopment Authority who subsequent to


            7              his response told me that it was either


            8              prepared or cleared with Mr. Greco and it


            9              says:  "Based on my review of our records to


           10              the best of my knowledge our office does not


           11              have any documents concerning an agreement


           12              with BRT Ice, LP, in it's possession."


           13                      So, I mean, what's going on?  I


           14              really resent being jerked around like this


           15              and told things that are obviously not true.


           16              Which was the lie or are all they lies?  Was


           17              that not the agreement that $600,000 was


           18              going to be paid?


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: No, it wasn't.


           20                      MS. SCHUMACHER: When the DPW moved--


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: It wasn't --


           22                      MS. SCHUMACHER: It's my time.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: So you don't want the


           24              answers again.


           25                      MS. SCHUMACHER: In motions.  Thank






            1              you.  Okay, well, awaiting my answers in


            2              motions, the next thing and I hope it's


            3              honest and truthful and I hope we can


            4              proceed because I think the city certainly


            5              needs the money.  I'm still waiting for the


            6              proof of the $600,000 or -- yeah, $600,000,


            7              the 6,000 jobs that the mayor claims that he


            8              created because his own budget, as I gave


            9              you the figures last time, his own budget


           10              does not support, but rather shows a decline


           11              in the numbers -- either in the numbers of


           12              people working or the numbers of people who


           13              are working but have slipped below the


           14              $12,000 threshold at which point you would


           15              no longer have to pay the $52 local services


           16              tax, so I hope that we are going to get some


           17              either support or admission that that was an


           18              outright lie again.


           19                      As far as the library, I couldn't


           20              disagree more with Mr. Dudek.  I remember


           21              back in the mid 90's we got a lot of


           22              policemen and it was one of those things the


           23              politics -- there was politics behind it


           24              because it was meant to assuage the people


           25              who were going to lose their jobs, but -- if






            1              I may complete this one?  Thank you.  But


            2              that money expired and when this money


            3              expired you either let the police officers


            4              go or the city had to pick up the funds.


            5              This is a the exact same thing.  If you get


            6              the stimulus money it has to be spent in two


            7              years and then you are stuck, the city is


            8              once again and the county, is stuck for


            9              keeping the collections up-to-date and


           10              paying the employees and it does belong


           11              downtown.  Thank you very much.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Bill Jackowitz.


           13                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South


           14              Scranton resident and member of the


           15              Taxpayers' Association.  The election:


           16              Congratulations to Doherty, Evans, Rogan,


           17              Joyce, Morgan and Miller.  My hope, the


           18              making of a better government.  Four years


           19              ago after the election, I stated that we


           20              would have two new council persons and my


           21              hope was that they would work together and


           22              work with the people to improve Scranton.


           23              That did not happen.  Again, I will say


           24              welcome to new council members, whomever


           25              they may be.  I hope again is they will work






            1              together to improve Scranton and make


            2              Scranton a better place for all residents,


            3              not just the chosen few.


            4                      Single Tax Office, Mr. Courtright,


            5              the law has been violated and it's continued


            6              to be broken, Single Tax Law 1929.  What are


            7              you going to do about that?  Where is the


            8              district attorney?  Hopefully, the FBI will


            9              reopen the investigation?  How about the


           10              audit of the Single Tax Office?  When and


           11              where and by whom?  Special privileges


           12              should not be granted because of friendships


           13              or organizations that you belong in.  We


           14              need an investigation in this office, laws


           15              have been broken and it needs to be done.


           16              The law is just that, the law.


           17                      City council, new majority,


           18              hopefully the mayor and council will work


           19              together.  Voting "yes" all the time is not


           20              the answer.  Voting "no" all the time is not


           21              the answer either.  Each vote should be


           22              thoroughly researched and talked about


           23              before you cast that vote.  Remember, every


           24              vote that is taken by city council affects


           25              every citizen and residence of Scranton, not






            1              just the few chosen citizens.


            2                      Voting turnout was low.  The


            3              residents of the City of Scranton need to


            4              really take a more active role in the


            5              governing of the city.  Remember, you as


            6              citizens live here, play here and sometimes


            7              actually work in the city.  Poor and


            8              dishonest government is the result of lack


            9              of voters' participation.  Councilwoman


           10              Evans again proved that the voters are


           11              paying attention.  The highest number of


           12              votes in the election on the Democratic and


           13              Republican side.


           14                      March 2009 unemployment rate, 9.2


           15              percent.  Someone really needs to look into


           16              this serious matter.  All of the new


           17              projects and developments will amount to


           18              very little if citizens are not capable of


           19              enjoying them because they have no money.


           20              Remember, a new building does not bring


           21              prosperity or happiness to the residents.


           22              Liveable wage jobs will.  Just because you


           23              have a job does not mean that you are


           24              capable of maintaining your household


           25              expenses.






            1                      Mayor Doherty and city council needs


            2              to work together with the Scranton Chamber


            3              of Commerce and that needs to start tonight.


            4              I feel the first step should be to invite


            5              the Chamber to a city council meeting and


            6              discuss the matter openly and freely with


            7              the residents.  Listen and watch.  No more


            8              back door meetings.  Open up city


            9              government.  Remember, fair, honest and open


           10              government works.  Behind the door closed


           11              door government does not work.


           12                      President McGoff, put the gavel down


           13              and start gaveling council members when they


           14              are out of order.  What is fair is fair and


           15              rules are for everybody to follow.


           16              Campaigning at council meetings did not


           17              work.  The voters seen right through the


           18              smoke and mirrors.


           19                      I would like to offer a suggestion,


           20              city council, mayor and his administration,


           21              schedule a townhall meeting where residents


           22              can approach their elected official with


           23              questions, possibly in a high school


           24              auditorium.  The city of Scranton is divided


           25              and must work hard at becoming one again.






            1              Without new ideas, discussions and working


            2              together, the city will not recover from the


            3              distressed status.


            4                      By the way, when asked a question,


            5              an elected officials should take the time to


            6              answer the question.  If you are not capable


            7              of answering the question, then take the


            8              time to do the research.  A phone call or an


            9              e-mail does not constitute research.  If you


           10              want to represent the people then do that.


           11              Words mean nothing until they are put into


           12              action.  Voting records are your actions.


           13              The voters looked at the voting records on


           14              19th of May.  Good job, voters, I commend


           15              you.


           16                      Okay, we got the Kids Swim Free


           17              Program starting again for the third year.


           18              You can make checks payable to:  Kids Swim


           19              Free.  Mail the checks to 1416 South Webster


           20              Avenue, Scranton, Pa., 18505.  This is the


           21              third year that the Taxpayers' Association


           22              is sponsoring this.  So far we have


           23              sponsored over 4,000 kids swimming in two


           24              years.  We want to continue it so, please,


           25              make a check out to "Kids Swim Free."  Mail






            1              that check to 1416 South Webster Avenue,


            2              Scranton, Pennsylvania, 18505.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Bill Braddick.


            4                      MR. BRADDICK:  Good evening,


            5              Council.  Thank you for the opportunity to


            6              speak.  My name is William Braddick and I am


            7              a proud citizen of the great City of


            8              Scranton and I'd like to congratulate Mrs.


            9              Evans on her victory, well done.


           10              Mr. Courtright on his victory and look


           11              forward to the things that he will do in


           12              that office.  Congratulate our mayor, Chris


           13              Doherty, on his victory, and more


           14              importantly and more to the point,


           15              congratulate Mrs. Gatelli and Mrs. Fanucci


           16              on their victory, the victory that is their


           17              accomplishment of the time that they served


           18              here and the good deeds that they helped get


           19              done with the help of the rest of council in


           20              some tough circumstances, the opposition


           21              that they faced during it, that they


           22              continue to face during it, and the future


           23              that's in front of both of them as well as


           24              the future that's in front of you, Mrs.


           25              Evans, as you take the reigns of this






            1              council and hopefully spread your wings and


            2              let your abilities take us where we need to


            3              go.


            4                      I am the founding and presently sole


            5              member of the Legion of Hope, looking


            6              forward to what this city is possible of


            7              accomplishing through the correct


            8              leadership, seeing these groups that were


            9              opposed working together.  I think we have a


           10              great opportunity in front of us, and I


           11              think we may have the right people there to


           12              do it, so I am hopeful, and I am a legion of


           13              one right now and we will see how many join


           14              me, but I am a legion.


           15                      I would like to just take one second


           16              and remind everybody that ICC in the Hill


           17              Section still has a food pantry running and


           18              they are a little low.  The good Monsignor


           19              Essef and his whole gang up there and do


           20              wonderful things.  Anyone that has the


           21              opportunity to drop off anything extra that


           22              you have and other than that, I thank you


           23              for your time.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Other speakers?


           25                      MS. O'MALLEY:  Hello, Barbara






            1              O'Malley, city resident.  Today's Scranton


            2              Times article, "ECTV moving downtown" is yet


            3              another twist in the sordid tail of ECTV.  I


            4              am dizzy trying to follow the statements of


            5              John Darcy, ECTV president, and Mark


            6              Migliore, ECTV executive director, as they


            7              attempt to rationalize the financial


            8              benefits to the taxpayers of ECTV's latest


            9              move.


           10                      Although, ECTV received $100,000


           11              from the City of Scranton, it has fallen


           12              short on fulfilling it's supporter's


           13              promises.  Council persons Gatelli, Fanucci


           14              and McGoff approved ECTV's funding over the


           15              objections of many citizens who pointed out


           16              the flaws in ECTV's business plan and it's


           17              shaky management structure.


           18                      Citizens also warn that operating a


           19              TV studio at 933 Prescott Avenue was a


           20              violation of the city's zoning code and it


           21              was fool hearty to invest money in the


           22              building.  Unfortunately, they too were


           23              ignored and we are paying for the results.


           24                      According to Mr. Darcy, $19,000 of


           25              taxpayers' money was used for improvements






            1              at the studio at 933 Prescott Avenue which


            2              is now being vacated.  Mr. Migliore, ECTV


            3              executive director, called criticism of


            4              these expenditures, and I quote, "Complete


            5              nonsense."


            6                      No matter how hard John Darcy, Mark


            7              Migliore and Tom Welby of the Committee that


            8              selected ECTV try to convince us that the


            9              new downtown location is terrific, it is yet


           10              another ill-conceived step by ECTV on the


           11              taxpayers' dime.


           12                      According to reports, ECTV is said


           13              to sign a lease with Scranton Mall


           14              Associates for 3,600 square feet of studio


           15              space at 114 Wyoming Avenue in downtown


           16              Scranton.  Office space in downtown Scranton


           17              ranges from $12 to $20 a square foot


           18              depending on services.  Where is ECTV


           19              getting roughly $4,000 to pay the rent at


           20              114 Wyoming Avenue?  Is this a viable plan


           21              fort the longrun or will the taxpayers'


           22              money again be wasted on a short-term fix?


           23                      Today's newspaper article also


           24              states with the exception of the $19,000 to


           25              improve the now vacated studio, most of the






            1              money ECTV received from the city was spent


            2              on equipment.  What about money budgeted for


            3              salaries?


            4                      As a condition of the loan between


            5              the city and the ECTV, ECTV had to create


            6              three full-time permanent paid jobs.


            7              According to a letter from Lori Reed, Deputy


            8              Director of OECT -- excuse me, OECD, ECTV


            9              did fulfill that requirement and the loan


           10              has been forgiven.  Where did the funds come


           11              for three full-time salaries if most of the


           12              money was spent on the equipment and


           13              improvements?


           14                      Is ECTV playing a shell game with


           15              public funds?  Something just doesn't add up


           16              unless this $100,000 is like manna from


           17              heaven.  Even Mr. Welby, ECTV's faithful


           18              cheerleader said in today's paper that he


           19              was, and I quote, "curious about the costs."


           20                      I would hope that the members of


           21              this body would share Mr. Welby's curiosity


           22              and be very, very wary of any attempts to


           23              funnel additional monies to ECTV.  Thank


           24              you.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?






            1                      MS. WARDELL: Good evening, Council.


            2              My name is Mary Ann Wardell.


            3              Congratulations, Janet and Bill.


            4                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


            5                      MS. WARDELL:  I am here to question


            6              about the library.  Stimulus money would be


            7              used to build that library.  Who is


            8              responsible for maintaining it?  The county,


            9              currently taxes property owners a library


           10              tax to take care of that library.  The


           11              county is not interested in building another


           12              library, so where does the financial burden


           13              fall if this new library is built?  Who was


           14              going to pay for this new library, to


           15              maintain this library?  And anybody can


           16              answer who knows the answer?


           17                      MS. EVANS: I don't have an answer


           18              that's set in stone, but I would agree with


           19              you that the libraries fall under the county


           20              library system, and as you mentioned, the


           21              three commissioners have unanimously agreed


           22              that at this time the county cannot afford


           23              to maintain a new library within the City of


           24              Scranton.  I would assume that if the


           25              library is built that we very likely may see






            1              a tax increase in terms of the library taxes


            2              that we pay in order to foot the bills for


            3              the employee's salaries and the maintenance


            4              and equipment necessary to keep such an


            5              endeavor running daily.


            6                      MS. WARDELL: So that you are looking


            7              at adding more taxes or more cost to the


            8              residents of the city to put a library over


            9              in South Side, which is not centrally


           10              located, and we have a beautiful library


           11              here in town which anybody can get at to,


           12              all they have to do is hop on a bus, where


           13              does anybody get the idea that the residents


           14              of this city in Scranton can afford to pay


           15              for another library?  I personally can't


           16              afford it.  I'm on a fixed income.  There is


           17              no way I can afford anymore library taxes or


           18              any more property taxes or anymore wage


           19              taxes.  We are taxed out here.  We are


           20              absolutely taxed out.


           21                      And it's a question of priority.


           22              The money is coming from a stimulus package,


           23              and that's great, that's to create jobs, but


           24              I would think that if you look at your


           25              priorities especially in this city that






            1              there would be other priorities that would


            2              come ahead of a library when we have a


            3              magnificent one here in Scranton.


            4                      And really I just have one more


            5              thing to say, I'm very glad that come


            6              January you, Mrs. Fanucci, will not be here.


            7              You have been an embarrassment to this city


            8              tore four years with your sarcastic remarks


            9              and --


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: That's out of you order.


           11                      MS. WARDELL --  and your treatment


           12              of -- yes, you know what, Mr. McGoff -


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, Mrs. Wardell,


           14              that is out of order.


           15                      MS. WARDELL: No.  I agree, I am out


           16              of order and you know what, she has been out


           17              of order for four years.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           19                      MS. WARDELL: Thank you.


           20                      MR. TALIMINI: Joe Talimini, resident


           21              of Scranton.  The issue I have to bring up


           22              is a little more tangible than what we have


           23              heard tonight.  All this fantastic paving


           24              that's going on in this city, I'd like to


           25              know where it is, because our senior






            1              citizens up there, and especially those who


            2              are handicapped and in wheelchairs, still


            3              can't get across the city streets and, I


            4              mean, you know, there are five members up


            5              there on that council and if you can't walk


            6              out that front door and see the condition of


            7              those streets and the sidewalks and the


            8              crosswalks you are totally blind.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  That's true.  It's


           10              terrible.


           11                      MR. TALIMINI: Because we had one of


           12              our gentleman come down here and speak to


           13              our public safety director who didn't even


           14              know that these conditions existed.  He


           15              actually took him on a walking tour.  Of


           16              course, this is pretty bad because this guy


           17              is on a fixed income, he is in a power


           18              chair, etcetera.  Unfortunately, he does


           19              have to get downtown to the stores when they


           20              are open and he has to go to the banks when


           21              he gets his money.  But, you know, I cannot


           22              believe that the people in this building who


           23              are overpaid, most of them, and those of you


           24              who are elected do not know that you cannot


           25              even get across that street out there in a






            1              wheelchair.  I mean, are you totally dense


            2              or just don't you look and see what's going


            3              on out there?


            4                      It's sad.  Now, you also have an


            5              item on here with funding for homeless,


            6              etcetera.  Did they give the money last


            7              year?  Did they ever get the money that they


            8              were promised, the homeless shelter?


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  I think this is


           10              additional money.


           11                      MR. TALIMINI: I know, but did they


           12              ever get the money they were promised last


           13              year?


           14                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, the homeless gets


           15              the money.


           16                      MR. TALIMINI:  Because they are in


           17              need of again and I was asked by one of the


           18              people who is down there, he can't come here


           19              because he is also handicapped, if they are


           20              going to get any money this year at all and


           21              I told them if they didn't please let me


           22              know because we will see that they do.


           23                      Another thing, has anybody ever


           24              looked at the top of this particular


           25              building?  This sunny tower we have up






            1              there?  It's in deplorable condition.  There


            2              is a window out which has been out since I


            3              know of and it needs a paint job up there,


            4              and no wonder there is pigeon dung up there


            5              with the window wide open they can come in


            6              and out freely.


            7                      It's just, you know, I question do


            8              you people see or don't you have any idea or


            9              don't you care?  And I that goes for all


           10              five of you, and I know the other ones don't


           11              care.  They just -- they are here for their


           12              paycheck and that's all it amounts to, and I


           13              would love to see you do something, you have


           14              got another six or seven months to go,


           15              please, consider the fact that these people


           16              need you, that's why you are up here.  Thank


           17              you.


           18                      MS. FRANUS:  Fay Franus, Scranton.


           19              Congratulations, Mrs. Evans.  This election


           20              isn't really over yet, we don't know who is


           21              running or anything, but I would just like


           22              to say that no matter who wins the people


           23              will be voting and whatever they decide is


           24              what they want and I'm not necessarily in


           25              favor of putting people down, like, I






            1              disagree with Mrs. Wardell, I don't believe


            2              in that.  I mean, I know Judy and Sherry and


            3              I have words and things like that.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Actually, Fay, I'm


            5              going to miss you.


            6                      MS. FRANUS:  Me too.


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Believe it or not.


            8                      MS. FRANUS: No, seriously --


            9                      MS. GATELLI: I know you like my


           10              little doggy, too.


           11                      MS. FRANUS: I do.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: It's not personal, I


           13              know that.


           14                      MS. FRANUS:  No, that's what I'm


           15              trying to say.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  We have gotten along


           17              in the past and we will again.


           18                      MS. FRANUS:  Yes, and that's what


           19              I'm trying to say.  We are here for the


           20              better of the city no matter what and I hope


           21              you both of, you know, win in November or


           22              whatever you are doing, I hope you do


           23              something else that you enjoy and, like I


           24              say, the election isn't over, part of it


           25              isn't over anyway, and I hope everybody does






            1              well, Billy and -- that's all I want to say.


            2              Good luck to everybody.


            3                      MS. GATELLI: Thank you.


            4                      MR. JONES: Bob Jones, Scranton.


            5              Everybody summed what I want to say tonight,


            6              so I'd just like to say three things, Janet


            7              Evans, Bill Courtright, and Scranton


            8              firefighters.  And, yeah, I still have my


            9              little red sign and you can't take it.


           10              Thank you.


           11                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Good evening, City


           12              Council, I'm Tom Ungvarsky and I'm a member


           13              of the Scranton Lackawanna County Taxpayers'


           14              Association.  I'd like to congratulate Janet


           15              Evans and Mr. Courtright on their victories.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           17                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  Well, Mr. Doherty


           18              won and I lost.  I hope that Mr. Doherty has


           19              the right idea because I believe Scranton is


           20              a working man's town.  We have had mines and


           21              factories here and they have been


           22              hardworking people.  Mr. Doherty had the


           23              idea that he can open up loft apartments and


           24              boutiques and downtown eateries and attract


           25              well-paying jobs to this city.  I hope the






            1              book that he read gave him the right idea


            2              because I think that Scranton is going to


            3              suffer in the longrun.  Thank you.


            4                      MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening.  Nelson


            5              Ancherani, First Amendment Rights.  This


            6              coming January we will see a new council in


            7              these chambers.  It is my belief that


            8              between now and then numerous pieces of


            9              legislation will be pushed through.  As


           10              Mrs. Fanucci has admitted she is a rubber


           11              stamper, this would be a great time for her


           12              to shed that title along with Miss Gatelli


           13              and Mr. McGoff.


           14                      For four years Ms. Fanucci, Ms.


           15              Gattelli and Mr. McGoff, have voted and


           16              passed record budgets.  They have passed


           17              numerous borrowing and spending legislation.


           18              They passed the 25 percent tax increase and


           19              it appears another one will be coming for


           20              2010 when we have a deficit of 5.5 million


           21              when we don't have the money from the tax


           22              office.  This is an opportunity for you


           23              three to shed the rubber stamper titles and


           24              come to the rescue of the Scranton taxpayers


           25              who for eight years have endured record






            1              budgets and record borrowing and reckless


            2              spending borrowing and spending.


            3                      Reckless borrowing example:  35


            4              million borrowed the Scranton Parking


            5              Authority, 59 million in interest is going


            6              to be paid back, plus giving the Scranton


            7              Parking Authority $879,000 this year for


            8              Scranton Parking Authority citation issuers,


            9              whoever they are.


           10                      Reckless spending examples are


           11              millions on outside attorneys and


           12              consultants.  If there was more time I could


           13              name many, many more.  With that B & S we


           14              are approximately 300 million in the whole


           15              in long-term debt, debt that are great


           16              grandchildren will be paying off. With that


           17              said, it is my belief and I predict for 2010


           18              there will be another 25 percent tax


           19              increase, much more borrowing, and another


           20              record budget.  There are ways to save money


           21              and give the taxpayers' relief, but I don't


           22              believe we will see that until the new


           23              council takes over in January.  If I'm wrong


           24              I'll be the first one to admit it.


           25                      Just to clarify, I have lived in






            1              this city all my life.  I would have left


            2              years ago if I didn't love it.  For the


            3              better part of my life, I did what most of


            4              the people did and are still doing, ignoring


            5              what's going on.  Shame on me and to quote


            6              Shebo: I wondered what the fuss was about


            7              when Joe Clifford and "Jack is Back" Fosta


            8              argued against issues that they felt were


            9              bad for the city.  They loved their city and


           10              now more people are carrying on where they


           11              left off.


           12                      I love my city as much as any other


           13              person in this chambers.  Thanks to the


           14              internet and informed council speakers, it


           15              is much easier to get information that we


           16              won't get from the slimes.  We won't be kept


           17              in the dark like we used to be.  Politicians


           18              don't like when their sheep alone to watch


           19              and are looking over their shoulders.  Keep


           20              it up, council speakers.


           21                      And I just want to say that what I


           22              say is not scripted.  Thank you.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Point of clarification,


           24              Mr. Ancherani, you can only blame me for two


           25              and a half years, not four.






            1                      MR. ANCHERANI: Pardon?


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: I said you can only


            3              blame me for two and a half years, not four.


            4                      MR. ANCHERANI:  Two and a half,


            5              okay.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Are we going on the


            7              lunch bet this time, Nelson?


            8                      MR. ANCHERANI:  Pardon?


            9                      MS. GATELLI: We doing the lunch bet


           10              again?


           11                      MS. ANCHERANI: Yes.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Come on.


           13                      MR. ANCHERANI: It will go to


           14              charity.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: You reneged on me last


           16              year.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Evans, if there are


           18              no other speakers.


           19                      MS. HUMPHRIES:  Oh, hold on a


           20              minute.  May the peace of Jesus Christ be


           21              with everybody.  Congratulations Mrs. Evans,


           22              you finally made it.  I hope you make it


           23              higher.


           24                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           25                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Mr. Courtright,






            1              congratulations.  Mrs. Fanucci and Mrs.


            2              Gatelli they went.  I think you tried to do


            3              the best you could, but in the support of a


            4              president that's supposedly Christian and


            5              the people that are getting in office and


            6              supporting the killing of the unborn, it's


            7              the same as communism as far as I'm


            8              concerned.


            9                      I want to ask a question, I didn't


           10              know the estimate, but Mr. Boscov was loaned


           11              a lot of money and I know he gave to the


           12              party of Mr. Doherty.  With the situation,


           13              the financial situation in the City of


           14              Scranton, how can that be done, that's


           15              number one?  I think you could probably get


           16              an answer to Channel 16.  Mr. Courtright,


           17              you are going to be the big tax boy and I'm


           18              so proud.  Could you tell me something about


           19              that, was it $30,000, $3,000?  What was the


           20              estimate?


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: What Mr. Boscov gave


           22              Mr. Doherty?  I have no idea.


           23                      MS. HUMPHRIES:  Well, isn't it


           24              supposed to be documented for the City of


           25              Scranton, number one?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Are you talking


            2              about his campaign contributions?


            3                      MS. HUMPHRIES: The loan.  There was


            4              supposed to be a loan.  How could there be a


            5              loan, number one, when our city is in


            6              duress, a depression and everything, number


            7              one.  I am in love with the library, but


            8              that one is fine right now until we get out


            9              of the hole.  I hope some day we will see a


           10              beautiful library when we do get out of the


           11              hole.  The other thing I want to say the


           12              journalist I had asked him something, how


           13              come they do not say anything about my


           14              speaking which everybody stops me and they


           15              love me and they can't understand why the


           16              comments are, and our country, our


           17              journalists that got killed in other


           18              countries that are martyrs, why doesn't our


           19              people that are journalist speak the truth,


           20              not just support one person, cover


           21              everything that's being hidden in the City


           22              of Scranton, the corruption in the City of


           23              Scranton, because this appalling when you


           24              got to speak to somebody in another country.


           25                      Now, there is treason, number one,






            1              when you go up against your country, but


            2              there is also -- there is corruption in your


            3              country you got to do what you got to do to


            4              straighten it out.


            5                      I think it's appalling, number one,


            6              that they do not cover the truth.  They are


            7              afraid of me because I know the truth and I


            8              think it's wrong.  I think it's wrong to see


            9              buildings blown up and people sitting back


           10              when they seen documents by scientists and


           11              all being brought in and cigarettes being


           12              burnt or getting your bank papers saying,


           13              Phyllis, burn a debt.  That is wrong.


           14                      What they have done is equal to that


           15              Guantanamo or whatever that place what they


           16              have done to me, even some of the church


           17              people.  I think it's wrong.  I think it's


           18              unholy.  I think it's corrupt and when they


           19              cover when people are raped and attacked and


           20              they cover and they put whatever they want


           21              they are all going to be striped of their


           22              jobs.  I'm honest to God as God as my


           23              witness.  Bishop Martino, we got to get


           24              together and we got to show what really


           25              happened in the City of Scranton.  I am for






            1              peace.  I am for peace.  I am for


            2              forgiveness, but I am for justice, and we


            3              got to get some of these corrupt SOB's out.


            4                      God forgive me, I'll go to


            5              confession, I'll be absolved of my sin.  I


            6              love yous and I hope you all do a wonderful


            7              job.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


            9                      MS. HUMPHRIES: And I'm sure they


           10              will cut this out, too.


           11                      MR. GERVASI:  Good evening, City


           12              Council.  My name is Dave Gervasi, Scranton


           13              firefighter and resident.  I just want to be


           14              real brief.  I want to congratulate


           15              Mr. Courtright on your victory and I'd like


           16              to congratulate Mrs. Evans.


           17                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           18                      MR. GERVASI: And I'd also like to


           19              say even though we didn't agree much, Mrs.


           20              Fanucci and Mrs. Gatelli, congratulations.


           21              You have a load of your mind right now


           22              probably, but I want to thank you for your


           23              service, I know it's a struggle on


           24              everybody.  And, like I said, we didn't


           25              agree much on anything, but thank you for






            1              your service to the community.  That's all.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Evans.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Good evening.


            4              As you know, the primary election is now


            5              behind us and the November or general


            6              election moves in the near future.  Seeking


            7              elected office is not an easy task, rather,


            8              it requires strength, courage, and


            9              sacrifice, a love for people, a sense of


           10              humor and at times a thick skin.  Campaigns


           11              also demand sacrifices from candidates


           12              families, friends, and supporters, but at


           13              this end of the day we all love our city and


           14              want the best for the people of Scranton and


           15              at the end of the day all of the candidates


           16              are owed thanks.


           17                      I am so very grateful for your


           18              support on primary election day.  My


           19              teammates, Mr. Rogan and Mr. Joyce and I,


           20              deeply appreciate the confidence and trust


           21              you have placed in us and we firmly share


           22              your desire for open, honest and financially


           23              sound government.  We don't take anything or


           24              any one of you for granted and we fully


           25              realize we have another race to run and






            1              another battle to be won in November, and


            2              with God's help and your help our city will


            3              not only continue to progress, but also


            4              change for the better in the future.


            5                      Contrary to the opinions of some


            6              political pundits and naysayers, I have not


            7              been idle during my years on city council


            8              and have fought hard for what I know is


            9              right for the people of Scranton.  The


           10              issues were and are tax increases, massive


           11              debt, inflated budgets, job creations and no


           12              accountability.  The question is not so much


           13              what will a new council do if and when it is


           14              finally able to legislate and vote


           15              independently, but what will the mayor do if


           16              and when for the first time since 2002 he


           17              has no veto power and no rubber stamp?  What


           18              will he do if he has to live within his


           19              means?


           20                      I think most of you know what I will


           21              do, but will the mayor communicate and


           22              negotiate?  I believe there is a first time


           23              for everything and with your help the time


           24              to open the windows and doors in city hall


           25              and let the light of accountability and






            1              fiscal responsibility shine in will come.


            2                      Now, in regard to the library in


            3              South Scranton that was mentioned earlier, I


            4              do not support it's construction at this


            5              time nor do I support passing the cost to


            6              county government.  After all, the county


            7              constituents are, indeed, city constituents


            8              and it's simply a matter of passing the buck


            9              to the county, but it's really not passing


           10              the buck because the same people are going


           11              to get the bill.


           12                      Next, just to update the status of


           13              the city's 2008 audit, the Single Tax Office


           14              provided a response to the auditor's


           15              confirmation letter on May 17, 2009.  The


           16              Sewer Authority and the Parking Authority's


           17              2008 financial statements were also


           18              received, although the Redevelopment


           19              Authority report will not be issued until


           20              it's July meeting.


           21                      In addition, there are 18 items that


           22              must be provided by the business manager and


           23              OECD.  Despite these obstacles, we can try


           24              to remain hopeful that the 2008 audit may be


           25              received prior to council's recess in






            1              August.


            2                      Also, on May 12, council received a


            3              copy of a letter from the United States


            4              Department of Transportation Federal


            5              Railroad Administration to Congressman


            6              Kanjorski.  The Chrome-Lynn Pennsylvania


            7              Regional Office will investigate council's


            8              concerns regarding the deplorable condition


            9              of railroad cars located near Lomma


           10              Industries.


           11                      Finally, to date, I have not


           12              received responses from the mayor regarding


           13              two issues:  First, he has not put in


           14              writing his decision not to close the


           15              firehouses.  Second, he has provided neither


           16              the location nor the funding source of


           17              student housing for the Commonwealth Medical


           18              School.


           19                      It seems the mayor intends to


           20              aggressively pursue a library in South Side,


           21              however, before he begins this project the


           22              people would like answers to their previous


           23              questions.  Kay, please send a memo


           24              requesting a response to both items on or


           25              before June 5, 2009.






            1                       Also, Kay, I have not received the


            2              financial figures for the DPW which were


            3              long ago provided for the police and the


            4              firefighters by Stu Renda and neither have I


            5              received the health care contributions and


            6              salaries for every management position which


            7              were also requested from the Mr. Renda.


            8              Please send him a memo requesting complete


            9              information for management and the DPW on or


           10              before June 5, 2009.


           11                      Also, a letter to Daron Northeast.


           12              I was notified today that the dirt and dust


           13              had become intolerable again.  Daron


           14              Northeast must keep their property wet to


           15              prevent this problem for residents of


           16              Dickson Avenue and Delaware Street.


           17                      And, finally, please send another


           18              request for "no parking" signs on Moosic


           19              Street to the proper department of the DPW,


           20              and that's it.


           21                      MS. GATELLI:  I just have a few


           22              items this evening.  We received a letter,


           23              there was a meeting last Thursday with the


           24              three governing bodies and the Single Tax


           25              Office, and everyone had agreed that the Tax






            1              Office would put together an operating


            2              budget so that we can review it, the three


            3              taxes bodies would review it.  Obviously,


            4              the budget is not enough what's being given


            5              by the school district and the city, and I


            6              also discussed this with future tax


            7              collector, Bill Courtright, and he agreed


            8              that there needs to be a budget for the tax


            9              office so that they can function, so I will


           10              keep you informed on that.


           11                      Also, there were five applicants for


           12              the controller's job in the Single Tax


           13              Office, they are going to be contacting the


           14              city and the school district to consult with


           15              them about these applicants.  My only


           16              question was I don't know how they are going


           17              to pay a controller that's not in the budget


           18              already, so I would like to send a letter to


           19              Mr. McGovern and Mrs. Vitali asking them


           20              where the funds are going to come from and


           21              what the salary would be for a controller in


           22              this office, so that we know what's going


           23              on.


           24                      The railroad cars, I did meet with


           25              the gentleman from the Federal Rail






            1              Authority, Mr. Seth Ford.  He inspected the


            2              property and he agreed that there were some


            3              things that needed to be addressed.  The


            4              railroad cars are very near to the street


            5              and we requested that they be moved back so


            6              that the site distance would be a little


            7              better.  The property is not


            8              well-maintained, it's littered and the grass


            9              is very high, and he was going to send his


           10              recommendations to the Rail Authority, so we


           11              will wait to hear further on what they have


           12              to say on that.


           13                      There is a balance on the Junior


           14              City Council raising funds when they were


           15              here and there is a balance of $2,360.71.


           16              That account was in my name and the Junior


           17              City Council and I had asked Mrs. Garvey to


           18              contact Rosanne Novembrino because we wanted


           19              to donate it to the police memorial that's


           20              planned for outside of city hall and we are


           21              awaiting Rosanne Novembrino getting an


           22              account with signatures to transfer the


           23              money, but I just wanted you to know that


           24              that's where that money will be going if and


           25              when the account gets set up, and that's all






            1              I have.  Thank you.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: I only have one thing


            3              that's on tonight's agenda that I want to


            4              speak about.  We have a loan that we are


            5              giving the City Cafe.  They are a restaurant


            6              that is on 309 Washington Avenue.  The


            7              purpose of the loan would be to assist in


            8              equipment, purchasing equipment and capital.


            9              It's $25,000 and 5 percent for the term of


           10              the loan, which is ten years.  The total


           11              project cost for the renovations will be


           12              $100,000.  The city will hold the equipment


           13              as collateral, also.


           14                      There is -- I don't know if -- I'm


           15              looking to see it Andy left, but there is


           16              one job equivalent is the purpose of it,


           17              they have to do one job when they take out a


           18              loan for $25,000, but they are hiring six


           19              people, so although they are meeting the


           20              required amount of hired they are actually


           21              hiring six additional people, so that is a


           22              good loan.


           23                      That is all I have on the agenda


           24              tonight.  Obviously, I'm going to speak on


           25              some of the comments made tonight because I






            1              can.  I have to say, Mrs. Wardell, as much


            2              as you don't like who I am or what I have


            3              stood for I have to say I have outclassed


            4              you by tonight's performance.  We understand


            5              you are czared up with Mrs. Evans and you do


            6              a wonderful job and I want to --


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. -- she was out of


            8              order.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: She talked the whole


           10              time, she talked the whole time and I'm


           11              doing the same thing.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Excuse me.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm defending what was


           14              said about me in a public meeting.  These


           15              meetings have turned --


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I gaveled her out of


           17              order and --


           18                      MS. FANUCCI: -- into politics from


           19              day one.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: -- I'm asking you to


           21              refrain.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: All right, I will not


           23              speak on her.  This forum, as I talked,


           24              everything tonight was politics.  Politics


           25              from the start to finish.  In fact, I






            1              believe we violated probably four to five


            2              ethics codes here tonight from even this


            3              podium violations from made.  For some


            4              reason that's acceptable.  The election is


            5              over.  I am very proud of my mayor.  I


            6              certainly will support him in every way.  I


            7              will stamp away for the next six months


            8              while I'm here.  I'm very proud of that.


            9                      I believe that the citizens of


           10              Scranton came out and did what they wanted


           11              to do and I believe that's a wonderful


           12              thing.  I'm okay with the fact that my


           13              election did not work out the way I planned,


           14              but in the long run I believe the city is


           15              safe and the best interests will be upheld,


           16              and that is all I have ever cared about.


           17                      I know that I was not supposed to


           18              push back in this forum and it was supposed


           19              to be all about the people taking over here


           20              and this was their only outlet, but to me


           21              that would be -- it would irresponsible,


           22              irresponsible for me to say it's okay for


           23              you to come here and spew whatever it is you


           24              are spewing on a weekly basis and not stick


           25              up for the rest of the people who are out






            1              there who like where they live, who believe


            2              in the city and who actually have the best


            3              interest at heart not just for their own


            4              personal agendas.


            5                      I believe the personal agendas were


            6              motivated by what takes place in this forum


            7              and I was okay sticking up for it and I


            8              certainly sleep very well at night knowing


            9              that I did what I needed to do for myself


           10              and for all of the people out there who


           11              actually have faith in what could happen in


           12              the city when you work together.


           13                      The division is strong and has been


           14              strong for years, way before I even got here


           15              and it will continue to be that way because


           16              of people who come up to this podium week


           17              after week with their personal agendas, and


           18              I certainly won't mention the names.


           19                      I find it sad, I find it almost that


           20              you should go out and find other ways to


           21              make this place a better place.  If you have


           22              the time to come here and spew your very


           23              distorted views of where we live, I believe


           24              there are many people who deserve help.


           25              Take that energy, help, volunteer, do






            1              something productive, do something wonderful


            2              for the people who are out there working


            3              hard every day.


            4                      Funny how tonight I had to listen


            5              about the library and how we don't need a


            6              library and everybody has computers.  That's


            7              not accurate.  There are many homes who


            8              can't afford computers, many more than you


            9              understand, and you should go to the library


           10              and see how people are waiting for the


           11              computer room where they can't get in.  They


           12              can't check e-mails, they can't put resumes


           13              out, the kids can't do their homework.  Why?


           14              Because they don't have computers.  So I


           15              know when you come in here and you say my


           16              interest is in the best interest of the city


           17              and you believe that others have different


           18              motives, but you can't talk out one side of


           19              your mouth.  You can't say you are


           20              interested in the city, but yet people don't


           21              deserve the same opportunity they you have


           22              or I have.  Yeah, I'm lucky I have a


           23              computer and I think we are all, I'm not


           24              sure about Bill, Bill tries to stay off it


           25              as much as possible, but everybody else






            1              deserves the same opportunity, so next time,


            2              the next week after we realize what has


            3              happened here and we come to terms with what


            4              is going on, I hope you come in here with a


            5              better idea and some solutions, you know,


            6              not just the problems because we all know


            7              there is problems because come in with real


            8              solutions and want the answers that are


            9              given to that are real answers.  Don't look


           10              for answers that are only good to move your


           11              agendas or move what you are looking to do.


           12              Accept answers for what they are, sometimes


           13              they are the answers and that all there is.


           14                      Yes, the Ice Box, we answered the


           15              Ice Box question for you four or five times.


           16              You will not accept it, but that's okay.


           17              I'm not going to waste my time answering


           18              something you won't accept.  We are being


           19              held up a sign in the back about the Ice


           20              Box.  You have to understand that everything


           21              is not as easy as saying you should do this


           22              or we should have that.  It doesn't work


           23              that way.  The stimulus money, for example,


           24              again we talked about that tonight, that is


           25              going to be a long process and there is so






            1              many compliances that are going to go along


            2              with it, it is not going to be as easy as 20


            3              people signing up and us giving them checks.


            4              That's just not how it is, but let's hope


            5              next week we can move past this and realize


            6              that although the division has been made and


            7              the mayor did win, and I love the fact that


            8              the election process took place and I love


            9              the fact that that's what it's all about.


           10              It is what it is and I'm happy with that


           11              just like I'm happy with the Recovery Plan


           12              passing, just like I'm happy with the fact


           13              that it is time to move on.  Thank God it is


           14              time to put it down and move on, and I am


           15              hoping that when you look at yourselves you


           16              can do the same also, and that's is all I


           17              have.  Thank you.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I would like to


           19              thank everybody that came out and voted and


           20              congratulations to all the candidates, not


           21              just the ones that won.  I congratulate them


           22              for putting themselves out there.  It's not


           23              easy to run and anybody that's ever run will


           24              tell you that it's a difficult task as Mrs.


           25              Evans I think said, although, it's more






            1              difficult on our families than it is on


            2              ourselves, so congratulations to all that


            3              put themselves out there.


            4                      Kay, if everyone on council here


            5              agrees, I think it's childish these people


            6              that steal political signs and I don't think


            7              there is any candidate that would disagree


            8              with that, but we had some serious


            9              accusations made there this evening about


           10              information being withheld, and obstructing


           11              justice.  If the rest of the council would


           12              agree I would ask that we send a letter to


           13              Dave Elliott and ask him does, in fact, does


           14              he have information to who stole these signs


           15              and if he does what is going to be done with


           16              it, so that we can put this issue to rest.


           17              As we all said, the election is over but


           18              let's get this sign issue done once and for


           19              all.  Is there anybody on council that would


           20              object to us asking Mr. Elliott?  So, if we


           21              could just him if he has information if he


           22              does what's going to happen with it so we


           23              can put this to rest.  Yeah, I'll make a


           24              motion that we send a letter to police chief


           25              Dave Elliott asking him to update us on the






            1              sign issue.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            4              in favor signify by saying aye.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           10              ayes have it and so moved.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And just one


           12              question, Mr. Minora, and I don't know if


           13              you can answer this, but we did ask for a


           14              letter to be sent a couple of weeks back


           15              about this declaratory judgment for the


           16              money that's at the tax office.  I don't see


           17              how we are going to fill a hole in the


           18              budget if we don't get that money, so I


           19              don't know if there is any response to our


           20              letter that we sent out our not?  Have we


           21              received a response?


           22                      MR. MINORA:  Actually, I spoke to


           23              Attorney Patterson today and her thought is


           24              to first try and get all of the lawyers in a


           25              room and see whether or not there can be






            1              some kind of agreement without the need of a


            2              lawsuit which, of course, would be better if


            3              it's possible to do and faster, and I think


            4              that's your thinking.  I don't know how far


            5              along she has gone with that idea, but we


            6              did speak today and that was what she


            7              related to me.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: If you could ask, if


            9              it's not too much trouble, if they can


           10              update us on a weekly basis where this


           11              stands because I just don't know what we are


           12              going to do if we don't get that money, how


           13              are we going to fill that whole in the


           14              budget, and I'm concerned about that, and


           15              maybe she can just drop us a note every week


           16              saying where we stand with this.  If all


           17              taxing bodies that's the way to go and if


           18              not what are we going to do?


           19                      MR. MINORA:  I'll be glad to ask


           20              her.  We have talked about it pretty


           21              regularly and after the letter went out to


           22              her she spoke to me about, you know, what my


           23              thinking was, what the idea behind it was


           24              because the letter was rudimentary in terms


           25              of just making suggestion without any legal






            1              theory behind it, so we talked about that at


            2              length and I don't think she has any great


            3              opposition to it, I think she just thinks


            4              it's a faster track if she can get everybody


            5              in the room, all of the other lawyers and


            6              bodies that they represent to stipulate to


            7              doing this without the necessity of the


            8              litigation, and frankly, if that can be


            9              done, you know, that's a meeting.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, yeah.


           11              Whatever it takes to resolve it so that the


           12              city gets whatever money they do have coming


           13              to them and I'd just appreciate if she would


           14              update us.


           15                      MR. MINORA: I'll follow-up with her.


           16              I'm sorry?


           17                      MS. EVANS:  I'm sorry, would you


           18              while you are in discussions with Attorney


           19              Patterson, would you ask her if she will be


           20              serving as the counsel to the tax office,


           21              particularly in light of the fact that


           22              evidently we are going to be paying for a


           23              controller to oversee day-to-day operations?


           24                      MR. MINORA: I'll be glad to ask her


           25              that.






            1                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


            2                      MR. MINORA: Although, I think she


            3              talked to me and she gave us a letter today


            4              about all of the bodies meeting and coming


            5              to some intergovernmental agreement


            6              including the collector of taxes to resolve


            7              a lot of these issues on a cooperative basis


            8              and I don't know if that was one of them or


            9              not, but I'll be sure to ask her.


           10                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And that's all I


           12              have.  Thank you.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  A number of


           14              things:  First, we did receive a notice of


           15              the -- from -- or a copy of the is it


           16              stipulation on Tripp Park, is that the


           17              correct term?  Attorney Minora is writing.


           18                      MR. MINORA:  I'm sorry.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: The stipulation from


           20              Judge Minora is what -- concerning Tripp


           21              Park?


           22                      MR. MINORA:  Concerning Tripp Park,


           23              and again, it's a stipulation that was


           24              reduced to order, a Court order allowing


           25              for -- let me jump back.  There was first a






            1              freeze put on any kind of development or


            2              alterations, some of which were not going to


            3              contribute to the flooding problems up


            4              there, but a blanket order included


            5              everything, so this stipulation is meant to


            6              allow for I guess certain repairs and I


            7              didn't enumerate all of those, but household


            8              building projects that would not contribute


            9              to the flooding problems, so by stipulation


           10              which is now reduced to an order are going


           11              to be allowed.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: And it's my -- this was


           13              agreed to by all parties?


           14                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.


           15                      MR. MINORA:  Yes, by stipulation,


           16              yes.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Just to let the public


           18              know that, you know, there is some progress


           19              in that area.


           20                      Also, Mr. Jackowitz, if you would


           21              please at the end of the meeting or at some


           22              point in time if you could give the address


           23              for the donations to someone from Channel 61


           24              hopefully they would scroll it so that it


           25              would seen and you may receive some






            1              additional -- from some additional sources


            2              and I think we would all agree if Channel 61


            3              would do that that we would encourage it.


            4                      And just I think at times in dealing


            5              with this library I don't want to get into a


            6              debate on something that's not on the


            7              agenda, but I think at times some people are


            8              led to believe that the proposition for


            9              building a library in South Side would mean


           10              that the Albright library would close.  I


           11              believe that the proposition is that South


           12              Side library would be in addition to, not in


           13              place of the Albright, and as far as I know


           14              I have no the seen or been made aware of any


           15              plan for the building and/or the operation


           16              of the library.  I will certainly ask this


           17              week if there is anything that's even close


           18              to concrete as far as that is concerned and


           19              at least maybe we can, you know, discuss


           20              what's firm rather than suppositions.


           21                      And last thing on the election,


           22              again, congratulations to everyone who is


           23              involved.  I think the one thing that was


           24              glaring to me in this election -- in an


           25              election that had such impact for the City






            1              of Scranton that many areas of the city


            2              there was such a poor turnout.  It would


            3              have -- I think that we need to do something


            4              to encourage more people to be involved and


            5              not just a -- I think in some places what


            6              was the total number it was somewhere around


            7              50 percent maybe of eligible voters and that


            8              should be more especially in an election


            9              where there was a great deal at stake and


           10              hopefully in the future that will improve,


           11              and that is all I have.  Mrs. Garvey.


           12                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR




           14              THE FUNDS FROM FUND 03 GENERAL FUND CITY


           15              LIQUID FUEL ACCOUNTS WHICH FUNDS AND


           16              ACCOUNTS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED FOR THE








           20              CASH LIQUID FUELS INVEST ACCOUNT.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be


           23              introduced into it's proper committee.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            2              in favor signify by saying aye.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            8              ayes have it and so moved.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           10              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND




           12              CITY OF SCRANTON TO ENTER INTO A LOAN






           15              PROJECT NO. 009.500.4 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO


           16              EXCEED $25,000.00 TO D & MS, LLC D/B/A CITY


           17              CAFÉ TO ASSIST AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


           20              introduced into it's proper committee.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           24              in favor signify by saying aye.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            5              ayes have it and so moved.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A.


            7              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 67,


            8              2009 - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF


            9              COUNCIL NO. 123, 2007, ENTITLED, "AN




           11              APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF








           15              (AS AMENDED) TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE






           18              PROGRAM AND EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT (ESG)




           20              AND THE 2008 ACTION PLAN TO INCLUDE NEW


           21              FUNDING UNDER TITLE XII OF THE FEDERAL




           23              2009 ("RECOVERY ACT") FOR THE HOMELESS










            1              GRANT- RECOVERY (CDBG-R) THAT RESULTED FROM


            2              THE RECOVERY ACT.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading


            4              by title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A


            6              pass reading by title.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            9              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           10                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           15              ayes have it and so moved.


           16                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER - 7-A.


           17              FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON


           18              COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT - FOR ADOPTION -


           19              RESOLUTION NO. 122, 2009 - AUTHORIZING THE






           22              REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT NO. 040809-F WITH
















            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the


            4              recommendation for the Chair on for the


            5              Committee on Community Development?


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


            7              Committee on Community Development, I


            8              recommend final passage of Item 7-A.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           11              call, please?


           12                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Evans.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           14                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           15                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           16                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Ms. Fanucci.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           18                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. Courtright.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           20                      MS. MAGNOTTA:  Mr. McGoff.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           22              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


           23              Motion to adjourn?


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you for your






            1              participation.






            4                       (Meeting adjourned.)
















































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            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            8   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

           12                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER