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2 SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING
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8 Tuesday, May 5, 2009
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11 Council Chambers
12 Scranton City Hall
13 340 North Washington Avenue
14 Scranton, Pennsylvania
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CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER
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3 CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:
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MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT
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7 MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT
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MS. JANET E. EVANS
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10 MS. SHERRY FANUCCI
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MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT
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13 MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK
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MS. SUE MAGNOTTA, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
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16 MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR
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1 (Pledge of Allegiance recited and
2 moment of reflection observed.)
3 MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please?
4 MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Evans.
5 MS. EVANS: Here.
6 MS. MAGNOTTA: Mrs. Gatelli.
7 MS. GATELLI: Here.
8 MS. MAGNOTTA: Ms. Fanucci.
9 MS. FANUCCI: Here.
10 MS. MAGNOTTA: Mr. Courtright.
11 MR. COURTRIGHT: Here.
12 MS. MAGNOTTA: Mr. McGoff.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Here. Dispense with
14 the reading of the minutes.
15 MS. GARVEY: There is no business in
16 Third Order tonight.
17 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Harvey.
18 Prior to Fourth Order any announcements?
19 MS. GATELLI: A couple of things.
20 MR. MCGOFF: Please.
21 MS. GATELLI: I wasn't ready for you
22 to come to me that fast.
23 MR. MCGOFF: While you are searching,
24 I would like to thank everyone for the
25 cards, calls, and concern that was shown to
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1 me during my recent illness. I greatly
2 appreciated it. Thank you.
3 MS. GATELLI: Before we started, I'd
4 like to welcome our two colleagues back. I
5 think we are falling apart one at a time
6 here.
7 This Thursday, May 7, and Friday,
8 May 8 at 7:00 and Saturday at 2:00, the West
9 Scranton players are putting on the play the
10 Saloon Keeper's Daughter. It's a melodrama
11 and the tickets are $5.
12 I spoke to Jeff Brazil about the
13 opening in the court behind the Guild
14 Studios that was reported last week. He
15 said that he believes there is a vault there
16 and he will be contacting the utility
17 company. I think it's the electrical
18 company that has a vault there has that
19 subsided, so he is going to contact them and
20 we'll get back to you about what the problem
21 is there, but there definitely is a problem.
22 In September at West Scranton High
23 School, they are going to be marking their
24 75th anniversary, and what they are doing is
25 they are going to restore the clock on the
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1 outside of the school. It is being run by
2 Chris Macino, one of our English teachers,
3 and they are asking for donations to help
4 replace the clock. It's going to cost
5 $4,500 to repair that clock at the top of
6 the building. I have a picture here and
7 maybe we can have it put on Channel 61. You
8 can mail your checks to: West Scranton High
9 School Clock Fund, attention Chris Macino,
10 1201 Luzerne Street, Scranton, PA, 18504.
11 Mrs. Garvey was in contact for me
12 concerning the railroad cars on South
13 Washington Avenue that we have been
14 complaining about for quite sometime. The
15 gentleman is supposed to be in the area on
16 Monday. I contacted Mr. Lomma and I'm going
17 to try to meet with him. If I'm not
18 successful then I'm going to request a
19 meeting with Congressman Kanjorski. Anyone
20 who has been over that way knows that it is
21 very unsightly, the railroad cars are full
22 of graffiti, the car doors are opened,
23 homeless people are living inside and now
24 because it's so unsightly people are dumping
25 in that particular area, so that is the plan
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1 for that.
2 Also -- I'll save it for motions.
3 That's all I have.
4 MR. COURTRIGHT. I just have one
5 thing, I normally don't bring up when
6 someone passes away because I'm always
7 afraid that I would miss somebody and I'll
8 offend somebody's family, so I usually don't
9 bring that up at all, but Marian Gabriel
10 passed away, I was unable to attend her
11 viewing today because I was out of town and
12 the second half is actually going on right
13 now and I am here so I can't attend, so I'd
14 like to send my condelences to the family of
15 Marian Gabriel. She did a lot of
16 volunteering with the Cancer Society and
17 Meals on Wheels, things of that nature, so
18 my condolences to her family and I apologize
19 for not being able to make it there. That's
20 all I have. Thank you.
21 MS. EVANS: And also please remember
22 in your prayers all those who have died in
23 the past week, particularly, Mr. Ron
24 Hubbard, husband of Liz and father of Dan,
25 frequent speakers at our meeting, and all of
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1 his family and friends he leaves behind.
2 Also, Patty Schrecengaust, the
3 Scranton School District Chief Nurse remains
4 hospitalized after a serious surgery.
5 Please keep her in your prayers as well.
6 The Upper Hill Ecumenical Committee invites
7 everyone to partake of the Friendly's Family
8 Fun Night on Wednesday, May 20, from 5 to 8e
9 p.m. A percentage of the food receipts from
10 those who dine at Friendly's in Dunmore will
11 be donated to St. Francis of Assisi Kitchen.
12 A benefit will be conducted on May 9
13 from 6 to 10 at the East Street Pub and
14 Eatery for the Ari Schoener Medical Fund.
15 Ari is a beautiful one-year-child who
16 suffers from Vater syndrome. Tickets are
17 $20 and may be purchased at the door.
18 Please support Ari and his parents.
19 I would also like to recognize all
20 of the teachers in our area on National
21 Teachers day and all of our school nurses,
22 like Mrs. Gatelli --
23 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.
24 MS. EVANS: -- on National School
25 Nurses Day, and finally, I hope everyone is
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1 enjoying Cinco D'Mayo, a nice celebration
2 today, and that's it.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else? Thank you.
4 Fourth Order. Citizens' participation.
5 Andy Sbaraglia.
6 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,
7 citizen of Scranton. Fellow Scrantonians,
8 let me get the little sheet, I should have
9 took it out. One moment. I left it in my
10 pocket. Okay, I wanted to a little on 7-C,
11 the restoration of Fellows Park. You read a
12 letter from Wally Rancosky, okay, I know
13 Wally a long time, but you didn't read any
14 from Linda Caselle, which I think was more
15 pertinent. She wanted to know what they
16 want to do up there. Does anybody know what
17 they are going to do with the $50,000?
18 Plant grass maybe? Because that park isn't
19 run down, okay? It's not run down at all.
20 You can verify that, Mr. Courtright, because
21 it's right by you right up there right
22 across from the bank Fellows Park. It's not
23 run down, so it's nice to know what he wants
24 to do up there with the 50,000. Whether he
25 is going to put more swings in, more this,
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1 more that, before you even vote on things
2 like that I would ask a long time ago, since
3 I found out because I know the condition of
4 the park and I used to play up there when I
5 was a kid when I went to West Side, but
6 that's a long time ago.
7 And let's go on further, I was -- I
8 don't like to listen to the radio or make
9 comments, but one of the candidates
10 criticized the other candidate for being an
11 obstructionist.
12 MR. COURTRIGHT: Andy, could I
13 interrupt you for just one second, please?
14 I think it's the park that was down near
15 Stomack's bar they are talking about.
16 MR. SBARAGLIA: Yeah.
17 MR. COURTRIGHT: All right, but they
18 have already put new sidewalks in and the
19 lights and in the backup it says they are
20 going to resurface some of the parking area.
21 There is information in the backup.
22 Mr. McGoff has it if you want me to read it
23 off to you what it is.
24 MR. SBARAGLIA: No, no, I realize
25 that, but, like I said, Linda Caselle wanted
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2 MS. GATELLI: I didn't get a letter
3 from anybody else?
4 MR. SBARAGLIA: You got one from
5 Linda Caselle in the backup, that's the one
6 I read. That's where I got the name from.
7 Otherwise, I didn't draw it out of the air.
8 So anyway where that was in there, too, she
9 wanted to know and how it was going to
10 effect her parties that she has up there.
11 If you are familiar with them they have a
12 lot of parties up there. They are always
13 doing something, that's a very active park.
14 Okay, let me get onto this other
15 thing, I was listening to the radio where
16 one candidate was calling the other
17 candidate an obstructionist, but really it
18 wasn't the candidates that was the
19 obstructionist, it was me. I found it
20 appalling that they would actually transfer
21 the DPW site to the Ice Box for 198 years
22 for $1, and that's what was in the original
23 ordinance that came to Scranton before you
24 people and, like I said before, none of yous
25 were there, but I was well-founded in
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1 reading that. I read it from cover to
2 cover.
3 And you're, right I was up there and
4 I said it shouldn't be. When it came down
5 to the Hotel Hilton, again, I was an
6 obstrutctionist. It wasn't Gary, I
7 shouldn't mention his name, I'm sorry, but
8 they weren't obstructionists I was because I
9 read the backup and I didn't think it was
10 fair to the taxpayers. All of the times I
11 come before council I think of the
12 taxpayers, I think more than some of yous up
13 there. I don't know why, but for some
14 reason or other I do love this city real,
15 real deeply. I don't think there is too
16 many people that like it more deeply than me
17 because I had a whole wonderful life in this
18 city, in West Side was a golden age to grow
19 up in. And like I said many a times, the
20 city is a city and the reason why I came
21 really became such an obstructionist is like
22 I told the other councils, I want to slide
23 in. I'm getting up in age and I wanted to
24 slide out nice and easy. I don't want to
25 have to worry about this, that, or can I
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1 afford to pay the taxes on my house or am I
2 going to be penalize out of my house or is
3 somebody going to come around telling me I
4 can't do this or I can't do that. That's
5 the reason why I came. A woman once told
6 me, you know, keep up, but I told her
7 before, I'm really did it mainly for myself.
8 This is the reason I came to council and
9 probably the reason I continue to come.
10 Thank you.
11 MR. MCGOFF: John Judge.
12 MR. JUDGE: Good evening, city
13 council. My name is John Judge. I'm the
14 secretary of the IAFF Local 60. The reason
15 I'm here tonight is I just wanted to clarify
16 some things that were put in the paper and
17 that some of our union members have been
18 asked about. Obviously, you recall last
19 week was a busy week for our fire
20 department, we had several different fires
21 and because of the extreme heat conditions
22 there was some comments made in the paper by
23 our leadership that we were still using
24 winter liners in our coats and some of
25 our -- some our members were approached by
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1 members of the public asking why we would be
2 still be wearing winter liners in the coat
3 and I had never heard of a winter liner
4 before I had heard talk of it, almost like a
5 folk tale, so I did some research on it
6 talking to some of the older members and we
7 felt it was appropriate and we wanted to let
8 the public understand, you know, what we do
9 and also the equipment that we need to wear.
10 I brought two-piece of equipment ins
11 here, and they are both fire coats, one is
12 mine and one is somebody's that probably
13 could have been my father from way back
14 when. These coats are designed for a
15 specific purpose with three different layers
16 in them. Never thought I would be doing
17 show and tell at council meeting nor did I
18 want to, but how this coat is constructed is
19 basically three different layers, the
20 outside, the outer shell, there is a thermal
21 barrier which is right here, okay, and the
22 thermal barrier is now sewn in to the inner
23 liner, okay, and they all serve a different
24 purpose. There's a vapor barrier on this
25 side, thermal on this side and then an outer
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2 The reason they sewed them together
3 was firefighters back in the 70's and 60's
4 used to take the liners out. You can see
5 this a fairly old coat. This coat, once
6 again, has three different liners to it,
7 okay, just like mine. The only difference
8 is the two inner linings will actually come
9 apart, okay? So you have your outer liner,
10 your vapor barrier and your thermal which
11 gives you the actual protection from the
12 radiant heat. They are designed, there is
13 an NFP standard, 1971 and it gets updated I
14 think every four years and it's -- it went
15 into effect in 1975 and it tells
16 manufacturers how to build this equipment.
17 They are both built by the same company,
18 Morning Pride.
19 What would happen years ago is some
20 of the firefighters would take this lining
21 out in the winter -- our excuse me, in the
22 summer because it was thermal. It wasn't
23 designed to do that. The design of the
24 coat, I'll just refer to one of our members
25 had a catalogue from 1979, and what it says
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1 is, "Inner linings are a firefighters'
2 suit's protection reserve. The linings
3 function is to insulate against conductive
4 heat. This is so important that the lining
5 must be used in the summer as well as the
6 winter."
7 They were never designed to be
8 pulled apart, but once again, we have
9 somebody that's, you know, of the old school
10 mentality that doesn't understand how we are
11 operating and it becomes very frustrating
12 for us that we get questioned like this when
13 we have a leader that doesn't understand it.
14 We have had other issues this week
15 which we have brought to, you know, Director
16 Hayes in the past over statements. If you
17 read any one of the print medias last week
18 or looked on Channel 16 you would have saw
19 we had a couple of firefighters that were
20 injured, some of them had some pretty
21 significant injuries. Their names were
22 mentioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I'm
23 sure Mrs. Gatelli is aware of HIPPA
24 violations, but it's very restrictive. You
25 are not to make those type of statements in
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1 the print media. He has been told that
2 before and, once again, we had four of our
3 members other the last month by name and
4 injury placed in the print media, sometimes
5 even before the family is notified that he
6 is at the hospital which becomes a real
7 burden for us because it's happened on two
8 other occasions.
9 Last week one of the fires, our
10 inspectors were actively digging out a fire
11 in West Side to determine the origin and
12 cause and somebody from the print media
13 showed up and goes, "I hear it's arson."
14 And I said, "We haven't made that
15 determination yet."
16 Your "chief we, just got off your
17 phone with the fire chief he told us it was
18 arson."
19 They are in the middle of digging
20 out this fire to determine cause and origin
21 and they are running into obstacles at every
22 step.
23 We just want to be able to educate
24 members of the public, you know, this the
25 way we operate, you know, in this turnout
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1 here, I mean, if anybody wants to take a
2 look at it it's very cumbersome. It's very
3 restrictive, but it's what we need to
4 protect us for up to 2,000 degrees of
5 radiant heat inside of a burning building.
6 All of these liners together give us that
7 protective envelope that's going to be able
8 to protect us from those type of
9 environments, so we can make, you know,
10 potential rescues.
11 But we just want to educate you, let
12 you understand that we are still dealing
13 with the same problems that we have brought
14 to this council a year ago and nothing has
15 been done. Nothing has been done to kind of
16 mitigate this and we are looking for some
17 direction here. Thank you for your time.
18 MR. MCGOFF: Les Spindler.
19 MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council.
20 Les Spindler, city resident and homeowner.
21 I want to speak about this flyer I got in
22 the mail last week where Mayor Doherty says
23 he is keeping our city safe, and I want to
24 read something from the newspaper from
25 March 29, "For the first time in eight years
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1 there is Scranton police foot patrol
2 downtown."
3 We have one person walking the beat
4 downtown, but the problem is there is no
5 major crime in downtown. The major crimes
6 are in the neighborhoods. Why don't we have
7 beat cops in the neighborhood? There has
8 been shootings in South Side. Last week on
9 Thursday night there was a car chase and it
10 ended up with shots being fired on Theodore
11 Street. Nothing reported in the Doherty
12 newsletter, but Channel 16 reported it.
13 Last Friday night, a few blocks from
14 my house at the Tripp Park Development, at
15 the baseball field, I mean, a car pulled up
16 into the community center parking lot and
17 pulled up to the community center, fired
18 shots into the softball field and there were
19 kids there at 11:00 at night. Thank God
20 nobody was hurt. The police came and found
21 39 millimeters shell casings on the ground.
22 Nothing in the newspaper again. The Doherty
23 newsletter is trying to hide the crime that
24 this city is being ravaged with crime.
25 A gentleman from Cedar Avenue came
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1 up to me yesterday, said he owns a house on
2 Cedar Avenue, he won't leave his house to
3 walk his dog unless somebody is with him.
4 When his girlfriend comes over he has to
5 escort her in and out of the house and take
6 her home. He was going to sell his house
7 until his brother moved in with him. He
8 said there is drugs being sold right across
9 the street and nothing is being done. And
10 Mayor Doherty says there is no crime in this
11 city. It's a darn shame. It's just his
12 newspaper doesn't report half of crimes that
13 are taking place.
14 Okay, there is something else called
15 the UCR, it's the uniform crime report.
16 These reports are supposed to be reported to
17 Harrisburg. For three years they haven't
18 been reported to Harrisburg and that's why
19 it looks like in Sunday's paper he showed
20 how his crime statistics are down, well,
21 they are not down, they are just not
22 reporting to the right places. Thank you.
23 That's all I have to say about that.
24 On the commercials, 6,000 new jobs
25 in the city. I didn't know there is that
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1 many people working in city hall. If there
2 was 6,000 new jobs in the city, our
3 municipal service tax would be up. Our
4 municipal service taxes are down, so to say
5 there is 6,000 new jobs in the city is an
6 out-and-out lie. If people can believe this
7 man they must be very, very névé.
8 The medical school, he is taking
9 credit for the medical school. As I said in
10 the past, I have as much credit for the
11 medical school as Chris Doherty does. It
12 was Bob Mellow and the Governor. You
13 shouldn't take credit for things you had
14 nothing to do with.
15 Last week the fire on Monroe Avenue,
16 we had dozen of our own city firefighters
17 sitting home and meanwhile Throop was
18 called, Dunmore, Clarks Summit, Chinchilla,
19 and yet our own firefighters were sitting
20 home. What's wrong, they didn't want to pay
21 them overtime? We had our own men sitting
22 there and we had to call firehouses from all
23 over the area. Something is wrong with this
24 picture.
25 The next thing, I wanted to talk
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1 about, once again, the 500 block of
2 Lackawanna, everybody keeps bragging about
3 it, well that's a disaster waiting to
4 happen. Whoever thought of putting that
5 island in the middle of that street I don't
6 know where they got their engineering degree
7 because it's just unbelievable. Let's just
8 say it's rush out hour and traffic is backed
9 up the length of the block there and an
10 emergency vehicle has to get by, how are
11 they going to get by? They are going to go
12 on the island in the middle of the street?
13 I don't think so. It's a safety hazard and I
14 don't know whose idea it was to put that
15 there.
16 Mrs. Gatelli, 0last week you asked
17 who sold the golf course and the South Side
18 Complex, well, I'll tell you who it was, it
19 was Mayor Doherty with the council of
20 Mr. Murphy, Mr. Pocius, Mr. Hazzouri and
21 Mr. Gilhooley and Mr. Reap, and that was the
22 council because I was come hearing to those
23 meetings then.
24 And lastly, everybody is speaking
25 out against the closing of the Scranton
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1 State School for the Deaf except I don't
2 hear anything from Chris Doherty. It's a
3 major part of this city and it will be a
4 crime if this place is closed and Chris
5 Doherty hasn't said a word about the State
6 School for the Deaf. Maybe it's because Ed
7 Rendell won't let him say anything?
8 By the way, I'm sorry, but I forgot,
9 Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Evans, welcome back.
10 It's good to have you back.
11 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
12 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Doug Miller.
14 MR. MILLER: Good evening, Council,
15 Doug Miller, Scranton. I'd like to welcome
16 Mr. McGoff and Ms. Evans back. I'm glad to
17 see you are feeling a little bit better.
18 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
19 MR. MILLER: Last evening myself and
20 a few others had the opportunity to attend
21 the Scranton Recreation Authority meeting
22 down at the Weston field house and there was
23 a question posed regarding Genesis and they
24 had it on their agenda, and one of the
25 questions that I had asked the authority was
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1 a question that a lot of us asked and we
2 really never got a straight answer and that
3 was why was Genesis really closed, and we
4 got excuses that it was going due to the
5 economy, and the city could no longer
6 provide funding and on and on and on, so
7 many excuses. But when I posed the question
8 to the group I got an answer from
9 Mr. Maranuchi that Genesis was closed
10 because the PA Game Commission closed it.
11 He said, "Call them yourself, they will tell
12 you."
13 So, I took it upon myself to call
14 them this afternoon and they told me they
15 had absolutely nothing to do with Genesis
16 closing. They had no input on it, they
17 weren't involved at all. As a matter of
18 fact, a few weeks ago the commission was up
19 at Genesis to conduct an inspection and
20 Genesis passed, so if anything, the game
21 commission was on Genesis side, so the
22 statements that Mr. Maranuchi made last
23 night were totally inaccurate and as a
24 member of the board you would think he would
25 have his facts in order.
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1 And so we are still at the same
2 point we were at and we still are awaiting
3 for a real answer why was Genesis really
4 closed? Did the mayor close it? Did
5 council close it? Did the Recreation close
6 it? Did Beatrice Heveran, the bully, close
7 it? We are still waiting for the answers
8 and I don't think we are going to be
9 satisfied until we get one.
10 You know, as you all are aware a few
11 weeks back Mr. Morgan and I began
12 circulating petitions across the city in
13 support of Genesis, and as you can see here
14 tonight I have a whole stack them. This is
15 just some of them. There were thousands
16 collected and, unfortunately, these people
17 here were ignored and weren't allowed to
18 give an input on the future of the Genesis
19 Center and it's ashame because it's our
20 Wildlife Center, not the mayor's, not the
21 Recreation Authority, these people were
22 ignored and it's ashame.
23 A few weeks ago, council had
24 responded to a letter that was sent by the
25 Boy Scouts there was some criticism on the
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1 Kanjorski bridge, that is the bridge to no
2 where and everything, and I believe there
3 was someone on here that read a letter from
4 the Scouts saying that, you know, they are
5 insulted that people knocked the bridge
6 project and that nobody uses it and that
7 they camped out in the back with their
8 Scouts one night. Well, I think the one
9 thing they forgot to mention is that there
10 is no trespassing after dusk, so there was a
11 violation. Thank you.
12 MR. MCGOFF: Bob Bolus.
13 MR. BOLUS: Good evening, Council.
14 Bob Bolus, Scranton. Nice to see you back,
15 Janet, even though you just about made it in
16 here.
17 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
18 MR. BOLUS: You know, let's start
19 off a little on Genesis. I attended the
20 Recreation meeting last night and, you know,
21 I'm disturbed that we allowed Chris Doherty
22 and this Heveran to literally kick Genesis
23 out of the City of Scranton. That belonged
24 to us, not an outsider from Waverly who came
25 in here, she is an attorney, she had no
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1 standing here, she had no business even
2 doing what she was doing here, yet it was
3 allowed. Nobody should have to stand there,
4 but you had to go up and see kids crying
5 hysterically that the park was closed, and
6 the kids -- the zoo was closed or whatever
7 we want to call it. It belonged to us.
8 What disturbs me even more the dean
9 to the medical school is the husband of
10 Mrs. Heveran, and I just don't understand
11 why he didn't reign her in and let her stay
12 where she belonged and stay out of the
13 business of Scranton. He is the head of
14 another tax exempt property in the City of
15 Scranton who is going to get a free ride.
16 Are we going to get free medical service
17 here? I don't think so. I'm all for the
18 medical school, I'm all for progress, I'm
19 not for taking advantage of the people in
20 this city and profiteering and putting it to
21 the senior citizens and the people of the
22 city to pay for KOZ and nonprofits.
23 You know, fees have to be assessed,
24 I'm sick of talking about it, I'm sick of
25 coming to council and saying it for years
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1 and years and years and nothing is done. We
2 have a gas line now that's going from the
3 Alliance Landfill all the way through
4 Taylor, Scranton, Dunmore, and Throop,
5 running along DeNaple's rail line and spur.
6 Remember, the spur was an easement for
7 railroad tracks, not a gas line so again you
8 sit back and see DeNaple's get rich while
9 the City of Scranton takes a beating. There
10 is no emergency management plan in place and
11 nobody is doing a thing about it. It's an
12 environmental problem. It's everything.
13 Nobody has said a word about it because it's
14 election time. I don't think it should be
15 that way. I think you need to stop this.
16 I think we need to know what's going
17 on, I think we need receive money if
18 somebody is profitizing, us making a piece
19 of change or make millions of dollars to the
20 reserve center. Why isn't he paying for his
21 parking garage and all of the other taxes
22 that are owed in this city? Where is
23 everybody in this city to collect money and
24 take the burden off the taxpayers? I don't
25 see it happening. We do a lot of talking,
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1 and that's all we do, but nobody is doing
2 any action and it's time for it.
3 On East Mountain they are putting
4 water lines across or down alongside the
5 road for the water runoff, long overdue, but
6 it's only a Band-Aid. The road should have
7 been dug up, done properly, expanded,
8 widened out the way it should be because
9 it's a dangerous road coming off East
10 Mountain from the Friendship House down and
11 yet we're just not doing it the right way,
12 so we always have time to do it over, but we
13 don't have the time and money to do it right
14 the first time, and that's what's wrong in
15 this city. That's what wrong with the
16 leadership.
17 You know, millions are given away
18 for credits and the Connell building and I
19 can go on and on and on, the South Side
20 Shopping -- or the South Side Recreation, we
21 lost that. Everywhere we look in this city
22 we see the University just expanding, and
23 sure we are glad to have you here, but only
24 so many people really receive a benefit out
25 of it, out of the dollars, out of the
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1 hundreds of millions that they have made
2 what about the people in the City of
3 Scranton and that's who you are here to
4 represent. The mayor or anybody else. It's
5 time to start doing your job because I'm
6 tired of talking about it and so is
7 everybody else.
8 The stables or the horses up at Nay
9 Aug Park where Genesis is they said, well,
10 they kicked them out because of insurance,
11 well, there are two different insurances,
12 but I'm not going to debate it, it's not my
13 issue. The people who ran it should be here
14 talking to you about it. They were there
15 and we weren't. We need to know what's
16 going on in Nay Aug, so I recommend that we
17 have a town meeting headed by council. Let
18 the people come in and start speaking their
19 voice publically where they are not shut up
20 in two minutes or five minutes, maybe come
21 up with ideas and concepts to generate
22 funding in Nay Aug, ideas that will make it
23 work instead of coming out of our pockets
24 and spending money to do studies and know
25 that we are doing the study to take care of
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1 cronyism and the good ole boy's club and
2 that's what's happening in the city.
3 We cannot continue the course of
4 conduct we have been doing in this city with
5 grant money just to do a feasibility study
6 that's $170,000 and the end result do
7 nothing about it. We have engineers, we
8 have retired people that could come by and
9 help us do this. It's time to take care of
10 our own and stop spending the money and
11 increase the tax base then you will go
12 forward. Thank you.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Bill Jackowitz.
14 MR. JACKOWITZ: I would like to
15 welcome back Councilwoman Evans and Council
16 President McGoff and I would also like to
17 offer a publically apology to councilman --
18 or President McGoff. A few weeks ago I made
19 an allegation that he was possibly sleeping,
20 possibly he was sick during this period of
21 time, so I would like to apologize to him at
22 this time.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
24 MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz,
25 embarrassed South Scranton resident, member
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1 of the Taxpayers' Association, retired
2 United States Air Force. Again, I will say,
3 the person at the podium is the speaker,
4 everybody else are the listeners.
5 Is the election not city business?
6 Citizens have the right to express their
7 opinions about elected officials or those
8 who are seeking election to the office. You
9 must remember that Councilwoman Fanucci and
10 Gatelli and Mayor Doherty refused to the
11 invitation to appear at the taxpayer meeting
12 an answer questions that were being asked by
13 the Scranton/Lackawanna Taxpayers'
14 Associates. How else do we as citizens get
15 answers to our questions? They are not
16 answered at the weekly council meetings and
17 to my knowledge Councilwoman Gatelli,
18 Fanucci, and Mayor Doherty have not held a
19 town hall meeting where citizens can ask
20 questions. I agree, a speaker should not
21 come to the podium and campaign for certain
22 candidates or against certain candidates,
23 but to bring up an elected official's voting
24 record or position on an issue is totally
25 acceptable in my opinion.
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1 What are elected officials running
2 from, the truth? We know that D.A. Jarbola
3 is running away from the Single Tax Office,
4 tax laws were violated, the Single Tax
5 Office Law of 1929. Who is responsible for
6 this?
7 What is missing from the
8 Times-Tribune front page picture, Sunday, 3
9 May 2009, and thi is the picture that I'm
10 talking about. It shows a picture of Mayor
11 Doherty, Chief Elliott and Ray Hayes in
12 front of the Scranton Police Department.
13 What's missing from that picture? Police
14 officers. Do you see any police officers in
15 this picture? No. Why not?
16 The article in the paper is all
17 about crime and the police department, but
18 yet the picture shows no pictures of the
19 police officers. Appointed police chief,
20 appointed public safety director, police
21 chief got a $13,000 raise, the police
22 officers got nothing. On the inside of the
23 paper you see a picture of the mayor
24 swearing in new police officers. This
25 picture you see police officers in it
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1 because they had to be there because they
2 had to get sworn in. I think that's a very
3 important point. Why were the police
4 officers not in this picture?
5 Okay, there are no police officers,
6 only the mayor appointees, Hayes and
7 Elliott. By the way, Elliott received a
8 $13,000 a year pay race from Mayor Doherty.
9 Where are the police officers? There are
10 none in the picture. Pictures speak louder
11 than words. The story about our
12 professional police department on Sunday was
13 truthful and accurate, we have a very good
14 police department. I would like to thank
15 the uniformed officers and the detectives
16 for their dedication to the community.
17 Monday's newspaper pointed out that only
18 25 percent of the streets have been paved
19 and that the infrastructure in the city is
20 crumbling. Just drive around and look
21 around, I do on a regular basis.
22 Also as pointed out, the city paid
23 $47,000 for a pothole machine, wasting
24 money. Whatever happened to the asphalt
25 cutting machine that the city paid $18,000
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1 for along with the county and other
2 municipalities?
3 Tuesdays article shows that the
4 downtown has not been revitalized, just the
5 opposite. We now have at least 64 empty
6 store fronts downtown, vacant office space,
7 second, third and fourth floors, mall space,
8 Southern Union building and the 500 block of
9 Lackawanna Avenue. Mayor Doherty counted on
10 Wall Street West and the train to save
11 Scranton. That train was derailed for
12 31 years, that's how long we have been
13 waiting, and Wall Street collapsed so now we
14 have to count on Senator Mellow medical
15 school to save Scranton. Time will tell on
16 that one.
17 You can't run away from the facts
18 and the truth. Look around and try to find
19 bacon and eggs downtown at 2 a.m. You will
20 find potholes, craters, for sale and for
21 lease signs and empty streets. Scranton is
22 not a 24-hour town, maybe 15 hours at best.
23 Scranton has been distressed for 17 years.
24 Mayor Doherty has been mayor for seven and a
25 half of those years. Mayor Connors for the
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1 first nine years. You can thank past and
2 present mayors and council members for the
3 distressed conditions of Scranton and don't
4 forget Austin Burke and the Scranton Chamber
5 of Commerce for their contributions.
6 The tree house, dog park, Connell
7 Park and bridge to no where will no help
8 since we have the highest unemployment rate
9 in the state, 8.7 percent, an increase of
10 4.6 percent since 2002. Higher property
11 taxes and mercantile taxes based on gross
12 income, not net income and no reduction in
13 wage tax. Residents cannot spend money they
14 do not have.
15 Medium household income, $34,484
16 annual. 20.5 percent poverty. Real estate
17 taxes 1 percent increase, why more slumlords
18 will purchase homes in Scranton. 67 percent
19 of the residents in Scranton are renters.
20 You cannot run a city on renters who do not
21 pay taxes.
22 MR. MCGOFF: Lee Morgan.
23 MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.
24 It is nice to have Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Evans
25 here tonight. You know what, I sat or stood
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1 in the back there and listened to speakers
2 who come up here and I agree with the lot of
3 things that have been said here tonight up
4 to this point, but I think the biggest
5 problem this city faces is that the people
6 have turned their backs on elections and
7 politics. They want no part of it. They
8 have just surrendered to the apathy and
9 without struggle there would be no change.
10 They have just lost all faith in all of the
11 elected officials in this city and we need
12 to take a look back and see where some of
13 this has come from.
14 I have my own opinions on what
15 happened to Genesis. Now, that's just a
16 small sample of the signatures that were
17 collected, I just grabbed them out of my
18 vehicle today before I came, but during this
19 administration Mr. Doherty has in my opinion
20 strangled all of the people that were
21 bringing good things here. Channel 61 was
22 absolutely fantastic. They were hurting for
23 money. There was no problem with giving
24 $100,000 to ECTV, but there wasn't a dime
25 for Scranton Today. You take a look at the
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1 Genesis Center, the mayor made a lot of
2 promises, spent a lot of money up at Nay Aug
3 and I don't think they have received their
4 funding this year and everybody is wondering
5 in my opinion what happened to Genesis is
6 you intimidated the woman, brought her into
7 Court by somebody who had no standing. The
8 judge should have immediately thrown that
9 suit out. Whoever the judge is that heard
10 that case, it's just terrible. It's smacks
11 of politics. It really does. This judge
12 should be ashamed of himself, whoever he
13 might be, okay? And what you do is you
14 threaten somebody. Well, you threatened a
15 woman whose most important concern was her
16 animals and now she is trying to decide how
17 she going to save them, so what did she do?
18 She cuts and runs.
19 As you can see by the signatures
20 that were in Doug Miller's hands, that's
21 only a very small sample and I hope that the
22 residents of this city remember that at
23 election time, that this mayor played
24 politics with that park. Here is a man who
25 talked about revitalization of the City and
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1 dumping tons of money into Nay Aug, and the
2 one thing if you read those signatures is
3 not all of those people were from the city.
4 There were signatures in there from
5 Louisiana. So, I mean, these people came to
6 the city, found out there was a sanctuary
7 there and went there. And I thought that
8 was the whole idea behind the park, but I
9 assume now that possibly it wasn't, and when
10 you listen to what Andy Sbaraglia said here
11 today from the podium about Fellows Park
12 $50,000, and then you take at look at the
13 study up there about a new zoo, and you look
14 at all of the other things, the ECTV, all of
15 the other spending that's come, and you know
16 something there was never -- there has never
17 been any plan -- I never even heard anybody
18 explain what happened in the Valentine's Day
19 storm of 2007 when a million dollars was
20 spent. I don't remember council ever
21 telling us who the contractors were, so what
22 we have done is we've just continually
23 alluded this city.
24 And I would just like to say from my
25 own viewpoint I have walked the city lately
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1 and at one time I thought there were a lot
2 of empty residences, but I'll be honest with
3 you I was shocked by the amount of homes
4 with no people in them. I'm telling you
5 that from walking the neighborhood. I'm
6 just shocked, okay?
7 And all of these discussions about
8 crime, I came to podium like many others
9 over ten years ago, longer than that and
10 talked about the mistake of not having
11 enough police officers and about people
12 selling drugs with cell phones, mobility,
13 and about gangs in the city and,
14 Mr. Courtright, you brought up a couple of
15 weeks ago about the University of Scranton
16 and students, that issue was brought up with
17 this council long, long ago.
18 And the other thing I don't realize
19 that I can't seem to understand at this
20 point is, why didn't somebody confine the
21 University of Scranton from taking all of
22 these properties and keeping them in one
23 zone? I thought Mr. Spano brought that up
24 long, long ago, so what's happened here is
25 there has been no change, and the reason
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1 there has been no change is because the
2 people they have stopped interacting with
3 their government. They are hiding in their
4 house and they are leaving one at a time
5 from the city. They've given up. They
6 actually have just given up, so when the --
7 another thing I don't understand about
8 politics, and I'm not a politician so I
9 don't understand it, we are all having of
10 these parties and all of that's parties, did
11 Nero have a party when he burnt Rome to the
12 ground?
13 MR. MCGOFF: Fay Franus.
14 UNKNOWN AUDIENCE MEMBER: Give them
15 hell, Fran.
16 MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, it's
17 inappropriate.
18 MS. FRANUS: I am here this evening
19 to share certain and particular public
20 documents relating to city expenditures
21 relating to the legal representation of
22 Mrs. Gatelli in her libel lawsuit. I assure
23 this honorable council that my presentation
24 is fully protected by my constitutional
25 rights to free speech, so I respectfully
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1 request that I am not subjected to any
2 prejudicial interference during my
3 presentation.
4 Courtesy of Mr. Renda, I have
5 obtained the billing statements for Mrs.
6 Gatelli's legal representation which I just
7 distributed among each of you along with a
8 Court docket sheet. At the top right corner
9 of the docket sheet it is stamped certified.
10 The docket sheet lists all of the legal
11 activity in this case. The billing
12 statements reflect the legal fees charged
13 for Mrs. Gatelli's representation on an
14 hourly basis and the bills are complete with
15 dates.
16 Please look at the first page of the
17 docket sheet and you will see that a
18 complaint was filed against Mrs. Gatelli as
19 a public official and an individual on
20 April 9, 2007. Now, look at the third entry
21 down after the date of April 24, 2007, that
22 is when Attorney Reihner filed her answer to
23 the complaint, but a close look shows she
24 also filed a private counterclaim. I have a
25 copy of Mrs. Gatelli's answer and
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1 counterclaim right here. It's a total of 83
2 pages long. The first 23 pages represent
3 Mrs. Gatelli's answer to the complaint, but
4 the remaining 60 pages represent
5 Mrs. Gatelli's private counterclaim. So,
6 two-thirds of the filing relates to her
7 private counterclaim.
8 Please look at the first bill from
9 Attorney Reihner. It shows that he started
10 working on the case April 19, 2007. Now, go
11 to page three and you will see that by
12 April 24, the date the answer and private
13 counterclaim were filed, Attorney Reihner
14 billed for approximately 120 hours totally
15 in his $9,488. All things made relative,
16 two-thirds of that bill should be attributed
17 to the private counterclaim because
18 two-thirds of the filing on April 24 was her
19 counterclaim.
20 Directing your attention back to the
21 docket entry, you will see it is total of
22 four pages long. All of the legal activity
23 on those four pages, except the entry of
24 Mrs. Gatelli's answer, relates to
25 Mrs. Gatelli's private counterclaim, more
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1 particularly, the actions she initiated to
2 try to get the names of various posters on
3 Dohertydeciet.com.
4 Directing your attention back to
5 Attorney Reihner's bills, please look at
6 Exhibits B, C, D, E, F and G. Those are his
7 hourly statements that were billed to Foxco
8 Insurance Management Service of Dunmore.
9 Each bill makes clear reference to Gatelli
10 vs. Pilchesky, file No. 5062179. The bills
11 total $41,930.86, $3,226 of which
12 Mrs. Gatelli has a right to as a public
13 official, but the rest is billing for legal
14 representation on behalf of her private
15 counterclaim which she does not have a right
16 to.
17 Questions beg to be answered
18 regarding these legal billings, the first of
19 which is this: Why did Attorney Reihner
20 bill the city at all if Mrs. Gatelli
21 retained him and she is paying for his legal
22 services?
23 Secondly, if Attorney Reihner was
24 retained by Mrs. Gatelli on a contingency
25 basis, where she'd have no fees unless she
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1 won, why is Attorney Reihner billing the
2 city at all? Why would Attorney Reihner
3 take a losing case on a contingency basis.
4 The most important question is, can
5 Mrs. Gatelli produce cancelled checks in the
6 amount of $38,704 to prove she paid for her
7 private legal services or is this a case of
8 a public official using government resources
9 for private benefit.
10 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you. Ozzie Quinn.
11 MR. QUINN: Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'
12 Association. You know, as president of the
13 Taxpayers' Association my mind is really
14 screwed up when I see this debt,
15 $170 million and what really, you know, I
16 don't know how we are going to pay this
17 thing off, all right? That's just the
18 principle, but I'm going downtown and parked
19 my car and I see this meter maid, okay,
20 walking down and lo and behold this
21 gentleman retired by Mr. Doherty, okay,
22 Mr. Doherty gave him a package he couldn't
23 refuse and 25 other of the clerks, okay,
24 doubled his pension, full benefits for life
25 for him and his family and he is working for
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1 the parking authority. I mean, come on.
2 How are we going to pay a debt off if we are
3 doing this with all of our money? This is
4 crazy. It's crazy. It's insane for people
5 -- for -- I don't know what to say. For a
6 mayor to act like that, give a person a
7 double pension, and that's not the only one,
8 there's a bunch of others, too, and I'm not
9 making this up. I have names if anybody
10 would like to follow-up with it.
11 Now, again, well, who can trust
12 Mr. Doherty whether he is lying or not like
13 giving another person a job after he --
14 holy. But the fact is seven years ago he
15 said about nonprofits, that's a fallacy. He
16 said nonprofits are going to pay their
17 share. The wage tax, 1/10 a percent is
18 going to go down every year, never went
19 down.
20 Now, what are we going to do about
21 this here, you know? You know, you are
22 operating with a budget that's got a hole in
23 it and you are hoping and praying that
24 somebody is going to come up with what,
25 $4.5 million? You got $1 million, did you?
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1 I don't know understand that. I really
2 don't understand it and, Mrs. Gatelli,
3 Mr. McGoff, and Mrs. Fanucci you raised our
4 taxes and yet you are leaving people who
5 have pensions from the City of Scranton work
6 again double dipping. You can't do that.
7 Holy -- this is getting really out of hand.
8 You know, it scares me and, you know
9 what scares me, too, is the fact that, and
10 I'm going to leave now, okay, the fact that
11 you have a guy like Mr. Bolus there, you
12 know, trying to do something good for the
13 people, you know, and he is presented a
14 citation in front of the House of
15 Representatives in Harrisburg, the picture
16 goes into the Scranton Times and they won't
17 print it because he is a candidate. Well,
18 what the hell is Mr. Doherty?
19 You know, it's time -- it's time --
20 it's time to really move this along and get
21 this man out of office and let's get the
22 city back to the people where it belongs.
23 Thank you.
24 MR. MCGOFF: Stephanie Gawel.
25 MS. GAWEL: Welcome back, Janet.
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1 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
2 MS. GAWEL: Welcome back, Mr. McGoff.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
4 MS. GAWEL: You were right, Sherry, I
5 was glad to hear about the murals and what
6 they were for. I have a silly question for
7 you just real quick, do we very any other
8 programs for the kids or do we not do a
9 whole lot because of budgets?
10 MS. FANUCCI: There is another
11 project called Art in the Park and it's
12 where the children go and they do a certain
13 project. Now, that's a weekly -- and I
14 think that only run three weeks, so there is
15 another one, also.
16 MS. GAWEL: Yeah. Because the reason
17 I asked is I was thinking like if we're
18 worried about budgets and stuff, you know,
19 like I know like a lot of print companies, I
20 mean, and even like the Paper Shop and
21 Expedex, you know, they would pay for all
22 the time and then it gets, you know, that
23 they end of not using or whatever and I'm
24 sure if you checked with them they would be
25 glad to donate it.
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1 MS. FANUCCI: That's a good idea.
2 MS. GAWEL: You know, it's free paper
3 and then you only have to worry about paints
4 and crayons so the kids could --
5 MS. FANUCCI: That's great. Thank
6 you.
7 MS. GAWEL: All right. Now I have
8 to get mean. I really can't believe how
9 névé and gullible some council are when it
10 comes to, you know -- we all heard the mayor
11 say at least a half a dozen times he was
12 closing the thing. Nobody ever said
13 anything about a plan before that. Never.
14 Didn't hear it, you know? And if the mayor
15 is such a good guy why doesn't he surround
16 himself with -- why does he surround himself
17 with incompetence? Chief Elliott the way he
18 talked -- the way he talks to his female
19 employees or -- and stuff, the way he treats
20 the rest of the them, these chiefs do not
21 respect their underlings I guess is the word
22 I'm looking for at this point.
23 And, you know, Ray Hayes, you know,
24 Chief Davis there has been so many
25 complaints against him 98 percent of the
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1 guys don't even want him there and nobody
2 seems to be questioning it, nobody is doing
3 anything about it and I don't know how, you
4 know, I always thought the smartest thing
5 about being the chief is that you surrounded
6 yourself with the good people, and I don't
7 see Mayor Doherty doing that at all.
8 And the reason a lot of us are
9 coming to the meetings continually is
10 because we are hoping to accomplish
11 something. We really do love this city. I
12 love where I live. If it wasn't so
13 dangerous to walk at this point, I used to
14 walk everywhere. I live in South Side. I
15 was in walking distance of anything I wanted
16 to do whether it was the drugstore, the
17 grocery store, even the liquor store, it was
18 nice, you know, it was convenient. And, you
19 know, trust me, I don't walk too much any
20 more, especially in South Side.
21 Now, my favorite subject again right
22 after Mr. McDowell, have we heard anything
23 yet on Mr. McDowell?
24 MR. MINORA: I'm sorry, could you
25 repeat that. I don't have anything new for
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1 you.
2 MS. GAWEL: Okay. Thank you. Just
3 thought I would bring it up one more time.
4 Don't want to get under their too much.
5 I think the Times should be ashamed
6 of what it's doing at this point. It's
7 embarrassing to do what it is doing running
8 this five page -- or five-day story and
9 Mr. Doherty is embarrassing. It's
10 humiliating and I for one along with several
11 other people have already called and
12 cancelled my subscription because I only
13 bought it for one reason and I can borrow
14 somebody's paper to find out if I need to be
15 at a funeral parlor or not because mostly
16 anything else in that Times you cannot
17 believe. It is all one-sided. They should
18 be ashamed of themselves. They are a
19 monopoly and they know it. They know they
20 have us by the short ones as you want to put
21 it, and it's embarrassing.
22 And that's -- oh, no, it isn't. It
23 was close. Also, we talked about bringing
24 in the small businesses, they're wonderful
25 and we like having them whether it be
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1 restaurants or whatever, well, if somebody
2 had already stated tonight why did we run
3 Channel 61 out of town? If he wanted
4 another TV station why didn't he put ECTV on
5 Channel 62 and leave Channel 61 to Scranton
6 Tomorrow? What he did was ashame. He
7 should be embarrassed. Again, that station
8 was put up by people of Scranton who worked
9 hard for it, built it to what it is and then
10 let these people, and not that they are not
11 doing a nice job, come in and take over was
12 wrong, and again, he should be ashamed of
13 himself. But then again, he still doesn't
14 run his business out of Scranton, so there
15 you go. Have a nice evening, everyone.
16 MR. MCGOFF: David Dobson.
17 MR. DOBSON: Good evening, Council.
18 Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton, member of
19 the Taxpayers' Association. I received a
20 little love letter here addressed to council
21 and in the past, it's kind of comical, but
22 somebody is apparently not happy with my
23 comments about Nay Aug Park. I would like
24 to point out a few things about that. Nay
25 Aug lends the concerts --
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1 MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, Mr. Dobson.
2 Could we please be quiet. It's very
3 difficult to hear.
4 MR. DOBSON: Nay Aug --
5 MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, Mr. Dobson.
6 MR. DOBSON: That's okay. Wednesday
7 concerts in 2007 took me 20 minutes in line
8 to purchase concessions. Now, anybody that
9 knows anything about mathematics in this
10 respect must realize that they are making
11 money. In 2008, no concessions were
12 available on Wednesday night. I also feel
13 that our old oak trees in Nay Aug Park, some
14 of them are probably 100, 150, maybe even
15 200 years old and they're a tragedy. They
16 are dying of neglect, cut down and ignored
17 after gypsy moth damage. It's really ashame
18 and I would love to see things change on
19 that. Every year I see leaves eaten in half
20 and on the ground and realize that I'm
21 sitting in the sun under an oak tree in the
22 middle of August.
23 I lost Mr. Gilhooley, not over the
24 jail, I felt that some of those people might
25 have even enjoyed going up to his house and
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1 maybe sneaking a lawn cut and being able to
2 see the daylight, but his disregard for kids
3 unable to swim and quoting the dollar amount
4 that they took in over the sliding board, I
5 never complained about the bridge, tree
6 house, Sunday concerts, Davis trail,
7 however, some people questioned the dollar
8 amount that they cost and I have to respect
9 that.
10 Well, finally, they seem to have a
11 problem with the length of my hair. Well,
12 my barber tore a muscle in his back, I used
13 to get a haircut up at -- up on Meadow
14 Avenue and he had to have an operation, but
15 seeing that it annoys them I might tell them
16 to just trim it a little. And, finally, my
17 answer to that person is I simply refuse to
18 live in a world where everyone looks, thinks
19 and acts and believes the same old failed
20 dogma for the last two to 5,000 years.
21 Thank you and have a good night.
22 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.
23 Cathy?
24 MS. BECK: Good evening, Council.
25 It's nice to have you back, Janet and
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1 Mr. McGoff. It's great to see you back at
2 city council.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Beck.
4 MS. BECK: My name is Cathy Beck,
5 city resident and taxpayer. It's been quite
6 some time since I have been appeared here at
7 a council meeting, however, a number of
8 recent articles appearing in the
9 Times-Tribune, political flyers that have
10 been sent to my home, and the presentation
11 made last week by Joanne Williams has
12 brought me here this evening. I know I
13 would not have enough time to address
14 everything I would like to say tonight, so I
15 will address one item and will return next
16 week if possible.
17 At least week's meeting Joanne
18 Williams asked who was responsible for the
19 red and white yard signs that tell Doherty
20 not to close firehouses. She referred to
21 them as a scare tactic to try to upset
22 Scrantonians. The mayor has said he is not
23 closing firehouses. She wanted whoever put
24 these signs up to take them down. This is a
25 false political statement.
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1 Let me quote Mayor Doherty from a
2 Times article dated April 21 of this year:
3 "I am not closing any fire stations any time
4 in the near future. We don't have those
5 dollars today."
6 We all know too well Mayor Doherty's
7 history of borrowing and spending, so just
8 how far off could station closings be. He
9 declined to permanently rule out the closing
10 of fire stations as did public safety
11 director Ray Hayes when he stated, "We no
12 plans of closing fire stations at this
13 time."
14 Let me point out at this time, there
15 are no firemen or policemen in my family,
16 therefore, my comments are not made for
17 personal gain. My reward is improving
18 public safety. As long as Mrs. Williams
19 brought up false political statements let's
20 revisit some reelection statements made by
21 Mr. Doherty, even though we may be tired of
22 hearing them:
23 Number one, "I will not sell the
24 city assets."
25 This preelected statement was made
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1 not long before he sold the South Side
2 Complex and the municipal golf course.
3 Two, "I will be the sixth
4 councilman."
5 He attended one meeting in seven
6 years and that was to get something he
7 wanted by casting a tie breaking vote for
8 something which, by the way, wasn't even on
9 the agenda.
10 Three, "The proceeds from the sale
11 of the golf course were to be placed in a
12 trust fund."
13 This, of course, never happened.
14 Prior to the last mayoral election the mayor
15 claimed crime was not a problem and gangs
16 did not exist, a subject I may address next
17 week.
18 Lastly, and of great importance,
19 during the recent presidential campaign then
20 Senator Obama made remark about
21 Pennsylvanians holding onto their bibles and
22 guns. Shortly thereafter the mayor was
23 asked by radio station WILK to comment on
24 Senator Obama's statement. Mayor responded
25 by saying, "When Mr. Obama made that
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1 statement he was speaking to a small group
2 that he felt comfortable with and when you
3 are speaking to such a group you tell the
4 truth."
5 This must mean that in order for us
6 to know when Mayor Doherty is speaking the
7 truth we must first know who he is
8 addressing and how comfortable he feels with
9 them.
10 One more thing, I do not have a do
11 not close the fire station sign in my yard,
12 but if someone would tell me after the
13 meeting where I can get one I'm very
14 interested. Thank you.
15 MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.
16 MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening,
17 Council. I'm disappointed we don't have
18 margaritas and salsa and chips tonight, but
19 I have again a number of small, but I think
20 important things, obviously. I would like
21 to know what is the threshold for council
22 approving budget transfers? I looked
23 monthly at the controller's report and there
24 are quite a few transfers even early in the
25 year and what is the dollar amount that
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1 forces a transfer to come to this group?
2 Mrs. Gatelli, you are the finance chair?
3 MS. GATELLI: I think it's 20 or 25.
4 MS. SCHUMACHER: Thousand dollars?
5 Maybe you could tell us.
6 MS. EVANS: If I might inject, I
7 think when a transfer is made within a
8 department it really doesn't come to council
9 for our approval, we are made aware of it --
10 MS. SCHUMACHER: Okay. Thank you.
11 MS. EVANS: -- but we don't vote --
12 MS. SCHUMACHER: Thank you.
13 MS. EVANS: -- but an
14 interdepartmental requires a vote.
15 MS. SCHUMACHER: Thank you.
16 MS. GATELLI: Over 20; right?
17 MS. SCHUMACHER: Now, again to the
18 Genesis Wildlife Center for just a minute,
19 Genesis Wildlife Center is obviously gone
20 forever, but I hope we have learned some
21 lessons and I hope that there is going to be
22 public input on what happens with that
23 former zoo in the days to come.
24 I hope, and again, I still don't
25 understand and I have asked before on what
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1 the -- on what your role as oversight of
2 these authorities is. It seems to me that
3 we have an awful lot of unelected people
4 making a lot of decisions that impact us in
5 one way or the another and you people
6 apparently don't care enough to get
7 involved, and I think it would be nice if --
8 it would be nice if Ozzie Quinn suggestion
9 that all authority meetings occur in this
10 council chambers and be broadcast on the
11 city's public access channel. I think that
12 would help to go a long way so people could
13 be informed, they would know what they are,
14 for instance, the Recreation Authority I
15 believe posts their schedule once. They
16 post the entire year's schedule and then
17 that's it. So, if somebody hasn't clipped
18 that out of the legal notices they have no
19 idea when to go.
20 So I hope that as we move forward on
21 the Genesis Wildlife Center that that space,
22 the old zoo, there will be a public hearing
23 and public input will be sought.
24 And then since I obviously did go to
25 the Rec Authority meeting last night, I do
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1 want to report, Mrs. Gatelli, awhile back
2 you said that the proceeds from the holiday
3 show went to the conservancy and I
4 questioned that at the time and it's not
5 true, I asked last night. It goes to the
6 authority, to the Recreation Authority.
7 And now a slight diversion because
8 I'm -- this next issue, although it's
9 something I'm interested in as well, I was
10 called this afternoon by a good friend of
11 mine who can't make it to council meetings
12 and asked that I would respectfully ask for
13 an accounting of the 6,000 jobs that the
14 mayor claims he has created, maybe by
15 company. If you could maybe in motions
16 ask -- vote to ask the mayor to provide
17 these 6,000 jobs by company that would be
18 nice. If not, there is always
19 Right-to-Know.
20 The Ice Box, I don't understand why
21 there could be any hindrance to getting that
22 $600,000. Mr. Minora said last week that in
23 his conversation with the Redevelopment
24 Authority solicitor, there are still
25 obstacles. Why would they have sent that
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1 agreement over three years ago to this body
2 which this body then chose not to take
3 action on if it was not complete, and I
4 would like to know by next week if
5 Mr. Minora doesn't have that information
6 tonight what those obstacles -- what those
7 particular obstacles --
8 MR. MINORA: They are not obstacles.
9 They are prerequisites. They have to be met
10 before an obligation begins. It's a
11 contractual prerequisite, it's not an
12 obstacle.
13 MS. SCHUMACHER: How could they have
14 submitted that agreement three years ago --
15 MR. MINORA: That was submitted with
16 different terms as an offer as opposed to
17 waiting for the prerequisites and the
18 completion of the agreement. It was offered
19 in the alternative not as part of the
20 agreement.
21 MS. SCHUMACHER: So they are
22 prerequisites. I will write a
23 Right-to-Know, prerequisites to what, so I
24 get the terminology correct?
25 MR. MINORA: They are prerequisites
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1 before payment is due.
2 MS. SCHUMACHER: Okay.
3 MR. MINORA: I don't know what you
4 are asking me.
5 MS. SCHUMACHER: Thank you. And then
6 recently in the Times-Tribune there was an
7 article saying a probe was urged of the
8 pension in Dunmore, and within that article
9 it noted that Scranton's portfolio dropped
10 about 35 percent or $26.7 million and I am
11 wondering whether this council is going to
12 have some kind of hearing or hear from our
13 investment -- whoever handles the investment
14 on why we lost that much money. So I'll be
15 back with the rest next week, good Lord
16 willing. Thank you.
17 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you. In other
18 speakers?
19 MS. BRIZINSKI: Good evening.
20 Gloria Brizinski, city resident, taxpayer,
21 voter. I was wondering if any of you kept
22 track of the status of my property at 1212
23 Cedar Avenue that you passed into
24 litigation? No? You probably have long
25 forgotten about me, but not I you. It has
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1 been one year, six months and 19 days,
2 exactly 567 days total since all of you
3 singly chose to ignore the simple black and
4 white information in front of you and with
5 haste and misinformation threw my family of
6 Scranton into the turmoil of an unending
7 corrupt legal system in our city.
8 My family has endured through legal
9 fees and mumbo-jumbo brought on by the city
10 lawyers without any inkling of a resolve to
11 this date. Let's get this straight, we are
12 paying taxes so that the city lawyers can
13 fight against us. Does that make any sense?
14 It doesn't to me. The taxpayers should not
15 have to fund this travesty anymore.
16 Strangely enough, the parcel in question
17 falls in the section of our city seeking
18 funding through the Elm Street project. Any
19 word on that yet? Elm Street project? No?
20 MS. GATELLI: They are waiting for
21 approval.
22 MS. BRIZINSKI: Well, we will
23 continue to hang on until hopefully the Elm
24 Street project comes to fruition and we get
25 our piece of the pie. All that my family
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1 wanted was a little time and consideration
2 of the facts at hand, but we were ignored.
3 We are a decent, loving, hard-working family
4 that wants this city to succeed because we
5 live here. In return, this elected
6 administration has greatly wronged us. My
7 oldest daughter, a violinist, represented
8 Scranton High School at Carnegie Hall and
9 brought nationwide attention to Scranton on
10 NBC's Today Show.
11 My youngest daughter just last week
12 received a second place award in the state
13 for film production. When asked by
14 Miss Pennsylvania where she represented she
15 replied with pride, "South Scranton
16 Intermediate School."
17 My family has done nothing but try
18 to better the name of Scranton, but the
19 elected public officials only stab us in the
20 back. Do you want to know who knows about
21 the families? My husband and I are families
22 of Scranton for over 100 years. We chose to
23 raise our family here. I will continue to
24 frequent the council meetings when possible
25 until answers are received. I urge all
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1 families, especially the voters of Scranton,
2 to chose wisely in the upcoming election.
3 Candidates make a lot of false claims
4 helping people, for the people, safe
5 neighborhoods, more arts and more music in
6 Scranton to attract people, but what about
7 the people who are already here? And we
8 have stuck it out over the years, tax after
9 tax after wage tax.
10 Scranton is not made up of malls,
11 big businesses, colleges and buildings, it
12 is the people who make up Scranton, and I
13 have to say if there is a mass exodus no
14 business or school can survive. If families
15 are treated like my family has been treated
16 I doubt they will stay.
17 More recently there has been no less
18 than three shootings in my neighborhood of
19 South Side alone over a few months or at
20 least those that were reported to us. I
21 have never felt more concerned about my
22 family's safety. I am afraid to let my
23 children ride their bikes or shop at the
24 Steamtown Mall.
25 I can only hope that voters wake up
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1 and chose wisely those people who can and
2 will justly represent the people and
3 families of Scranton. Enough of the old
4 closed door politics, time for a change on
5 all levels.
6 In closing, I would like to wish
7 everyone a Happy's Mother's Day here present
8 and everyone watching. I know that it good
9 mother will fight for what is due her child
10 at any cost until the finish. Thank you.
11 MS. HUMPHRIES: Everyone, you think
12 this is funny, but it isn't. I'm kind of in
13 Honor here of Mr. Robeson and all of the
14 firefighters and the police department that
15 died throughout their life in September 11.
16 This is an FBI action play set. This
17 represents all of my FBI guys that fought,
18 died and gave -- was given a lot of false
19 information by evil, corrupt, selfish
20 people.
21 This represents the police
22 department. Now, I'm working on something,
23 and this is what I found out, vandalism
24 2,359; cleared 1,681. The officers used --
25 there is 300 males, 800 females. Of all of
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1 the offenses there is 1,659 clear and
2 10,132. When you say cleared, did they go
3 to Court or which is the story there when
4 you say cleared? That's 2008, there's a
5 791.1 percent. The offenses against family
6 and children 182, 41 cleared, 86 percent and
7 then there's a slash .8 percent rape per 100
8 thousands.
9 Sex offenses, I'm a survivor, except
10 forcible rape, 162/52. Clear to
11 55.3 percent. 2001, Mayor James Connors,
12 president of council; Alex Hazzouri,
13 vice-president of council; Christopher
14 Doherty, council; John Pocius; Councilman
15 Brian Reap; Councilman Kevin Murphy; and
16 Councilman -- there is a blank there.
17 Councilman about -- blank again. Tax
18 collector, Joseph Dougherty, he had a
19 different spelling. Controller, Roseanne
20 Novembrino; treasurer -- city clerk, P.J.
21 Wintermantle; business administrator, Brian
22 M. Nixon, Esquire; director of community
23 deed or inspection and cleansing --
24 cleansing, licensing Mary Alice Burke;
25 solicitor, Attorney James Mulligan;
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1 engineer, Ronald A. Bienski; chief of police
2 James Klee; fire chief, God bless him, Harry
3 Applegate.
4 Now, I'm going to go to 2001,
5 September 7. Blakely Borough, Mayor Klinko;
6 president of council, Edward Ghilardi. They
7 have people that are in the -- Chris and
8 Frank are in my prayer group, Frank is
9 president of council, Robert Munley;
10 Councilman Patrick Stanvich; Councilman Ed
11 Falko; Councilman Michael Henz; Councilman
12 John Kordish; Councilman Thomas Bestroy; tax
13 collector Robert Castellano; controller
14 Dennis Carval; District Justice, Joe
15 Todzylowski.
16 I went to Joe to file charges
17 against Mr. West and they refused
18 everything. When I went across to the
19 District Attorney's Office in Scranton the
20 sheriffs all blocked me, Mr. Davis was
21 involved with the sheriffs. There has been
22 a conspiracy here. Borough secretary Harold
23 McCluster, some of these people are
24 innocent. The engineer, Robert Burnoski,
25 the police chief Joe Williams, Christopher
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1 -- now, this is the Blakely Borough.
2 As we go to it, it will go on and on
3 and on. Where is that newspaper boy? Could
4 you stand up and give me your name?
5 MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis.
6 MS. HUMPHRIES: He doesn't want to
7 give his name because you know what, there
8 is a thing called obstruction of justice --
9 MR. MCGOFF: Please, Phyllis.
10 MS. HUMPHRIES: There is a thing
11 called freedom of the press. They are not
12 telling everything what's happening here in
13 the City of Scranton.
14 MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis.
15 MS. HUMPHRIES: This is wrong.
16 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Phyllis.
17 MS. HUMPHRIES: Not only thank you,
18 you are welcome, I have more to tell.
19 MR. MCGOFF: No. Phyllis.
20 MS. HUMPHRIES: Everything that's
21 going to go to Bishop Martino tonight will
22 go to the CIA because there's not going to
23 be people working on construction at the
24 Pentagon or any place for what they did.
25 They screwed over our FBI guys and let the
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1 World Trade Center go down.
2 MR. COURTRIGHT: Phyllis.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Please stop. Thank you.
4 MS. HUMPHRIES: And that's the
5 truth.
6 MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis.
7 MS. HUMPHRIES: And I'm sure he's
8 not going to put none of this in the paper.
9 MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis, please.
10 MS. HUMPHRIES: And Mr. Robson was
11 going to testify to me, what happened to
12 him.
13 MR. COURTRIGHT: Phyllis.
14 MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis. You have --
15 too much. Next speaker, please.
16 MR. STUCKER: They are parking a lot
17 of cars on the sidewalks again. Everywhere
18 I ride the bike yesterday, everywhere I go
19 walking or not walking the cars were on the
20 sidewalk, you can't walk.
21 MR. COURTRIGHT: We are looking the
22 that, Jim.
23 MR. STUCKER: And I'm glad I came to
24 the party, Gary DiBileo's, I'm glad I came.
25 Everybody was happy for me to go, and I got
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1 Janet Evans something nice.
2 MS. EVANS: Oh, you did. Thank you
3 so much, Jim. Jim got me two beautiful
4 plants --
5 MR. STUCKER: Yeah.
6 MS. EVANS: -- while I was recovering
7 so thank you so much.
8 MR. STUCKER: And I want you to take
9 them home with you.
10 MS. EVANS: I did. I took them home.
11 MR. STUCKER: Take them home and
12 plant them.
13 MS. EVANS: Yes.
14 MR. STUCKER: And I owe you two
15 bucks.
16 MR. COURTRIGHT: No, that's okay,
17 Jim, you can keep it. That's okay, no
18 problem.
19 MR. STUCKER: And I have been
20 thinking about you, Janet, I got your
21 picture --
22 MS. EVANS: Thank --
23 MR. STUCKER: -- in the window.
24 MS. EVANS: Oh, thank you.
25 MR. STUCKER: I got Gary's picture
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1 in the window.
2 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
3 MR. STUCKER: And I want to see him
4 win, that's the big thing. I hope he wins
5 and I hope -- I want to see you win and both
6 of you, too.
7 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
8 MR. STUCKER: Yeah. The city is --
9 it's about time the city do something. Yep.
10 I would like to see maybe they fix the
11 lights on Greenridge, the red lights are
12 out, and the ones by Sheeley's Drug Store is
13 out.
14 MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, Jim.
15 MR. STUCKER: They are all out. Can
16 you put a sign up on the sign where Danny's
17 shop -- Danny's drug store is that says "No
18 Parking" on the corner. I see people
19 parking on the corner, there is no meters
20 there in front of Sheeley's.
21 MR. COURTRIGHT: Sheeley's, okay.
22 MR. STUCKER: And right around the
23 corner, too, at Sheeley's they park in there
24 and there no meters there.
25 MR. COURTRIGHT: They are not
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1 supposed to park there, Jim.
2 MR. STUCKER: Yeah, all of the way up
3 by that Tink's bar. Tink's bar, all the way
4 up to the corner.
5 MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, no, just at
6 the corner they can't park, Jim. They are
7 allowed to park on the street. It's just at
8 the corner.
9 MR. STUCKER: Well, at Tink's bar
10 there is no meters there, yeah.
11 MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay.
12 MR. STUCKER: Yeah? Okay?
13 MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.
14 MR. STUCKER: Congratulations,
15 Janet, everybody wants to see you at the
16 party, I know you couldn't make it so, we
17 were thinking about you up there.
18 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
19 MS. ROYCE: Hi. Good evening.
20 Bernadette Royce. Recently Mayor Doherty
21 finally said something with which I agree or
22 at least part of it at least. The mayor was
23 quoted in the Times Report as saying, "I
24 have said publically that I'm not closing
25 any fire stations. I have said it time and
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1 time again. This is an election tactic."
2 Let me repeat the part I agree with:
3 This is an election tactic. I couldn't
4 agree more. Why? Because Mayor Doherty has
5 been on record for years stating that he
6 wants to close fire stations and also cut
7 the number of firefighters.
8 August 31, 2008, the Scranton Times
9 headline: "Doherty has plans to cut number
10 of firefighters. Date in Court looms."
11 Mayor Doherty wants to close
12 stations, "Eight fire stations eventually
13 consolidated to four or five."
14 And also to cut the firefighters
15 from 150 to 112, a 25 percent reduction in
16 the force. I want everyone to ask
17 themselves, would they be comfortable with
18 25 percent less police; 25 percent less
19 paramedics; 25 percent less emergency room
20 physicians; 25 percent less emergency room
21 nurses. If not, why would you be
22 comfortable with 25 percent less
23 firefighters?
24 The Scranton firefighters and their
25 supporters have maintained the same position
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1 for years on the side of fire safety for the
2 citizens of Scranton. Mayor Doherty's
3 position against adequate fire protection
4 levels is also well-documented until, not
5 surprisingly, two months before election.
6 So I ask you, who should you believe? Those
7 who have argued for safety all along or
8 those who have pledged to decimate the
9 number of firefighters and fire stations
10 until, not surprisingly, he was up for
11 reelection. When a politician pulls a
12 complete reversal on his position just
13 before an election, I am confident we all
14 know that this is election tactic. Thank
15 you and have a good evening and Happy
16 Mother's Day.
17 MS. O'MALLEY: Barbara O'Malley,
18 Scranton resident and taxpayer. Last summer
19 I came before this body as a representative
20 of the Scranton Today which operated Channel
21 61 for ten years to strenuously object to
22 the proposed $90,000 OECD grant to ECTV. My
23 objections were founded about concerns about
24 the questionable bidding process, the
25 physical stability of the ECTV principals,
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1 and the board composition among other
2 things.
3 From May of 2008 through October of
4 2008, I attempted to get information from
5 OECD about ECTV's application, the criteria
6 for the award and any supporting
7 documentation. I never received that
8 documentation. I believed that it was
9 public information and public money. With
10 the advent of the new Right-to-Know law in
11 January of 2009, I decided to make another
12 attempt.
13 On March 2 I sent a letter to Stu
14 Renda, the open records officer for the City
15 of Scranton, and requested all public
16 records pertaining to ECTV which I believe
17 I'm legally entitled to under the
18 Pennsylvania Right-to-Know Law. On
19 March 10, 2009, I received a reply from
20 Mr. Renda stating that due to the extensive
21 nature of my request the city expected to
22 respond within 30 days, that would be
23 April 10.
24 On April 22 I called Mr. Renda's
25 office, I spoke to Kristin, she placed a
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1 call to OECD and said the records were at
2 the lawyer's office, they should be there by
3 the end of the week.
4 On Tuesday, April 28, I called
5 Kristin again. She again called OECD
6 office, Linda Aebli said I would probably
7 have them by Friday. The date has passed.
8 Today is May 5. I still don't have the
9 records.
10 For those who don't know, the new PA
11 Right-to-Know Law requires agencies to
12 respond to citizen's requests within five
13 business days. The law does provide for an
14 additional 30 days upon certain
15 circumstances according to Terry Muchler,
16 director of PA Office of Open Records. From
17 my perspective, the City of Scranton is
18 clearly not in any hurry to comply with this
19 law. Why is it taking over two months for
20 the city to respond to my request?
21 ECTV records should be easy to
22 retrieve. The application and the
23 documentation and the awards took place in
24 2008, so barring an unlikely accessibility
25 problem, what is the reason for the delay?
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1 Also, the people should be aware that the
2 law bars agencies from requiring a citizen
3 to explain why a record is requested.
4 I hope the city isn't holding up my
5 request based on assumptions as to the
6 reasons for my request of ECTV records. My
7 interest in ECTV records is well-known and
8 it stems from the controversy I've described
9 when I came to the podium. ECTV has been
10 awarded at least $100,000 from the mayor's
11 office and OECD. It is speculated that the
12 lion's share of the money went to rehab
13 studio space in a building ECTV no longer
14 calls it's office. There's a sign on the
15 door that says that they are not operating
16 at 933 Prescott Avenue anymore.
17 So as a taxpayer in the City of
18 Scranton I want to know what safeguards are
19 in place regarding the appropriate use of
20 the public funds and what happens to the
21 money that was invested into remodeling this
22 space which ECTV apparently has vacated or
23 will be, their sign on the door says it's no
24 longer their office space. I would like to
25 review the loan agreement and the pertinent
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1 paperwork between ECTV and the City of
2 Scranton for answers to my questions. For
3 some reason, that information is being
4 withheld from me.
5 The original Channel 61, which I was
6 proudly involved with, was founded by
7 citizens of Scranton, originally Scranton
8 Tomorrow, but then we formed our own
9 organization Scranton Today, and we were
10 committed to transparency in government and
11 an informed and engaged electorate. It's
12 ironic that it's successor, Electric City TV
13 continues to be surrounded by a smoke
14 screen. Thank you.
15 MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.
16 My name is Nancy Krake and I would like to
17 say welcome back to Mrs. Evans and
18 Mr. McGoff.
19 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
20 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
21 MS. KRAKE: You are welcome. We have
22 some extra big lies this time in the
23 election year. Four years ago Mayor Doherty
24 told us he created 3,000 jobs. This time
25 around he is telling us 6,000 jobs. Well,
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1 pretty much that would be like four
2 Universities of Scranton, six Mercy
3 Hospitals or maybe six CMC's. I haven't
4 seen them, if they are here they are very
5 well hidden.
6 I think it's time for a change from
7 all of these lies. We also had a 27 percent
8 tax increase that was courtesy of
9 Mr. Doherty, Mrs. Gatelli, Mr. McGoff and
10 Mrs. Fanucci. They also continue to vote
11 over and over again for crippling fines and
12 fees on delinquent real estate taxes. Huge
13 burdens on our citizens. You can count on
14 two more 25 percent tax increases if these
15 people are reelected. I know this because
16 when the Pennsylvania Economy League was
17 here several years ago they told us they
18 needed to see taxes raised 75 percent. So
19 that's another 50 percent we can look
20 forward to if we reelect Mayor Doherty and
21 the people that support him.
22 These consultants were hired by Mr.
23 Doherty's best friend, Ed Rendell. They
24 like to keep us distressed and they like to
25 feed off of our tax dollars. The one thing
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1 they don't like to bring us is the economic
2 change that we need. We really do need
3 change. We are not going to get it with the
4 same people in office. We are going to get
5 more and more of the same.
6 I'd also like to address the issue
7 of health care. Mrs. Fanucci likes to tell
8 us, and I'm sure she is getting her
9 information from the administration where
10 she usually gets it, that one of the big
11 reasons we are still distressed is the cost
12 of health care. Admitted by Mr. Stu Renda
13 under oath in Court on Friday, was the cost
14 of health care has increased for the public
15 safety unions by $4 million since 2002. The
16 budgets have gone up $22 million. That
17 hardly would constitute the reason that we
18 are still distressed. They received no
19 raises in that time, whereas, the
20 administration is up to probably around
21 between seven and eight million
22 cumulatively.
23 And we also learned tonight from
24 Mr. Renda that they paid very small co-pays
25 while the police and fire are now paying
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1 more than double the amount the
2 administration is paying for their health
3 care and they have received no raises over
4 the years, they just received a small one,
5 excuse me, but over the years the
6 administration has been receiving their
7 raises.
8 I would also like it say that
9 conservatively half of this cost, the
10 four million, would not have been incurred
11 if the mayor had allowed the Health Care
12 Cost Containment Committee to do it's job.
13 The two judges we were in front of on Friday
14 also remarked on the city not utilizing the
15 Health Care Committee since it had been
16 produced millions, that's a key word here,
17 millions of dollars of savings in the past.
18 I remember vividly the Health Care Committee
19 meeting that Harry Miller from the
20 Pennsylvania Economy League walked out of
21 never to return again. We went from that
22 point to saving $4 million without the
23 Pennsylvania Economy League.
24 It's time to work together, it's
25 time to get rid of these consultants and the
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1 people who want to keep them here, and it's
2 time for change. Thank you.
3 MR. LYMAN: Raymond Lyman. You know,
4 Mrs. Fanucci, do you remember when you
5 accused me of the being a child molester.
6 MS. FANUCCI: I never did that.
7 MR. LYMAN: Oh, yes, you did. And
8 it was in a police report.
9 MS. FANUCCI: Never.
10 MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Lyman --
11 MS. FANUCCI: I never said that.
12 MR. MCGOFF: That's out of order.
13 MS. FANUCCI: Never said it.
14 MR. LYMAN: No, it isn't.
15 MR. MCGOFF: Yes, it is.
16 MR. LYMAN: No, it isn't. It was a
17 police report put on her when I had --
18 MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.
19 MR. LYMAN: -- four pictures of a
20 catch basin --
21 MR. MCGOFF: You are out of order.
22 MR. LYMAN: And you four seen it.
23 MR. MCGOFF: If are going to --
24 MR. LYMAN: And I have a letter here
25 from the ACLU who will defend me in a court
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1 of law against her and the law firm.
2 MS. FANUCCI: They should then. I
3 never said that.
4 MR. LYMAN: And I will sue you for
5 slander and that idiot district attorney.
6 MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh.
7 MR. MCGOFF: You out of order, please
8 leave the podium.
9 MR. LYMAN: No, I'm not out of order.
10 MR. MCGOFF: Please leave the podium.
11 MR. LYMAN: Well, I have a letter
12 here that says my rights were violated by
13 you, Mr. McGoff, each time you say I'm out
14 of order -- I'm not fighting here.
15 MR. MCGOFF: Ray --
16 MR. LYMAN: I'm just talking.
17 MR. MCGOFF: It's time to leave the
18 podium.
19 MR. LYMAN: No, it's not time to
20 leave the podium.
21 MR. MCGOFF: The officer is going to
22 come and remove you.
23 MR. LYMAN: My letter says I can
24 speak, you cannot violate me saying out of
25 order because you hate my guts.
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1 MR. MCGOFF: Pleas. Ray.
2 MR. LYMAN: My lawyer and the ACLU
3 said in this letter that I could go and
4 speak.
5 MR. MCGOFF: Officer, thank you.
6 MR. LYMAN: I have five minutes.
7 THE POLICE OFFICER: Mr. Lyman.
8 MR. LYMAN: Don't threaten me.
9 THE POLICE OFFICER: I'm not
10 threatening you.
11 MR. LYMAN: I'll call my friend the
12 state trooper and you cannot stop me.