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††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††††††† HELD:

 

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††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††† Tuesday, February 17, 2009

 

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††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††††† LOCATION:

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††† Council Chambers

 

†††††††††† 11†††††††††††††††† Scranton City Hall

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††† ††††340 North Washington Avenue

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††† Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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††††††††††††††††††† CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

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††††††††††† 2†† CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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††††††††††††††† MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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††††††††††† 6†† MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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††††††††††††††† MS. JANET E. EVANS

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††††††††††† 9†† MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

 

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††††††††††††††† MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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†††††††††† 12†† MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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††††††††††††††† MS. SUE MAGNOTTA, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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†††††††††† 15†† MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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††††††††††† 1†† (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of reflection

 

††††††††††† 2†† observed.)

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Roll call, please?

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Evans.

 

††††††††††† 5†††††††††††††††††††† †MS. EVANS:† Here.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Gatelli.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Here.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Ms. Fanucci.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Here.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Here.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. McGoff.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Here.† Dispense with

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† the reading of the minutes.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 3-A. AGENDA FOR THE

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† ZONING HEARING BOARD MEETING HELD ON

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† FEBRUARY 11, 2009.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† If not, received and filed.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 3-B. APPLICATIONS AND

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† DECISIONS RENDERED BY THE ZONING HEARING

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† BOARD MEETING HELD ON FEBRUARY 11, 2009.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† If not, received and filed.

 

†††††††††† 25†††††† †††††††††††††††MS. GARVEY:† 3-C. TAX COLLECTION


 

 

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††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† COMPARISON REPORTS RECEIVED FROM THE SINGLE

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† TAX OFFICE ON FEBRUARY 13, 2009.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† If not, received and filed.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Order.

 

††† ††††††††7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Garvey.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Announcements?† Mrs. Gatelli?

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Yeah.† I have a few.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† I know that there was an article in the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† paper the other day, I read from

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Commissioner Munchak asking about the real

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† estate tax bills.† It's funny, I asked

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Mrs. Garvey to do that last week, also, as I

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† hadn't received my real estate taxes yet.† I

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† since have received them.† I believe they

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† came last Thursday, which would have been

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† the 12th, and I asked if there would be an

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† extension for people to pay their taxes by

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† the end of February and you can get a

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† discount being that we got them two weeks

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† late I thought there would be a two-week

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† extension, but I was told that there will

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† not be extension, but the office is open

 

††††††† †††25††††††††††††† Saturday from nine to noon for the whole


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 5

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† month of February, so anyone who is

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† interested in paying their real estate

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† taxes, the Single Tax Office will be open

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† from nine to noon on Saturdays for the month

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† of February.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† I'll just repeat the upcoming

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† events.† Chad Lewis' benefit is this

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Saturday from 6 to 10 at Holy Rosary.† The

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† one for Joseph Noones is the 28th and the

 

†††††††††† 10††††† ††††††††Clarion at 8:00, and the one for Mr. Chapman

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† is March 7 from 1 to 5.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† Also, I got my gas bill this week,

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† as I'm sure all of you did, also, and inside

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† of it was another rate increase.† They want

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† to raise the rates starting in March,

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† March 29, 2009, which isn't very far away,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† so you can file a formal complaint before

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† May 29, 2009, so I guess you will get a

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† rebate maybe if they don't get it approved,

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† send a letter for a formal complaint, and I

 

†††† ††††††21††††††††††††† would just ask my colleagues that we'll have

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Mrs. Garvey file this complaint on behalf of

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† city council to represent the taxpayers

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† against this raise.† I don't know if it will

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† matter, but I think we have to at least


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 6

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† challenge it as we have in the past with the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† electric rates and things of that nature

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† that we have fought.† Unfortunately, we

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† don't have Mr. Malino anymore.† He was our

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† advocate for fighting the utilities, but

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† since his passing no one stepped up to the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† plate to be our advocate by the City of

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Scranton, so we will send a letter on behalf

 

†††† †††††††9††††††††††††† of council and file our complaint.† And I

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† think that's all I have.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I'd ask everyone to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† please remember in your prayers all those

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† who have died this past week, particularly

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Margaret McHale Cawley, mother of former

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† State Representative Gaynor Cawley, and all

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† her dear family and friends she leaves

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† behind.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† Also, the Upper Hill Ecumenical

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Committee invites you to dine at Friendly's

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† in Dunmore tomorrow evening from 5 to 8 p.m.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† A percentage of all food receipts from 5 to

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† 8 p.m. will be donated to the St. Francis of

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Assisi Kitchen to feed the poor and homeless

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† of our community.† Enjoy a great meal and

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† support a great cause tomorrow, February 18,


 

 

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††††††††††† 1††††††† ††††††at Friendly's in Dunmore.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† Also, the Northeastern Pennsylvania

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† chapter of the friends of the NRA will host

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† their annual banquet on Saturday, March 28,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† at Genetti Manor in Dickson City.† The event

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† begins at 5:00 p.m. and tickets are $40

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† each, $75 for couples and $25 for those

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† under the age of it one, and that's all.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yeah, just two

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† things.† I, too, would like to send my

 

†††††††††† 12†††††† †††††††condolences to the Cawley family, a great

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† family actually.† I have been asked to read

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† this for the next two or three weeks, it's a

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† press release, and it says, "We want you for

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† the new alumni directory.† West Scranton

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† High School would like to introduce the West

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Scranton alumni directory, the most

 

†††††††††† 19†††††††††† †††comprehensive directory West Scranton High

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† School ever published.† The contents of the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† directory will be divided into four

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† sections, biographical, geographical, class

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† roster, and most importantly the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† introductory section showing the schools

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† history and events.† All efforts are being


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††8

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† made to contact West Scranton High School

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† alumni via phone, e-mail and mail to verify

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† biographical information.

 

††††††††††† 4† ††††††††††††††††††††West Scranton High School has a

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† contract with Alumni Research, Incorporated,

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† to collect and compile the information into

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† a hardbound library, quality volume in an

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† on-line community.† This directory is made

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† able to West Scranton High School Alumni

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† only and is a limited edition press run and

 

†††††††††† 11†††† †††††††††offer only one time.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† Alumni Research, Incorporated, is in

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† the process of contacting those who have

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† provided current telephone numbers and

 

††††††† †††15††††††††††††† addresses to verify biographical

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† information.† Please help alumni to keep in

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† touch with you.† If you are interested in

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† replying and you have not received any

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† communication from Alumni Research

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Incorporated, you may call 1-800-299-1230.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† 1-800-299-1230, and I have been asked to

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† read this for the next two or three weeks so

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† I will do so, and that's you I have.† Thank

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† you.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: I have one thing that I


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††9

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† would like to make mention, it's the Ryan

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† Mason Mehalchick Memorial Fund.† Ryan

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Mehalchick was a one-year-old son of Mark

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† and Diane Mehalchick who died in his sleep.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† Mark and Diane are residents of Dunmore, but

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Mark has a number of -- I know Mark and

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Diane have a number of friends in the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Scranton area.† Mark is very active in the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† running community.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† Also, Ryan's grandmother is known to

 

†††††††††† 11†††††††† †††††many people in the area, Dolly Mehalchick,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† who worked for the County Drug and Alcohol

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Council, and also Ryan's great grandmother,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Delores D'Renzio who is a long-time resident

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† of South Scranton, so I'd just like to make

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† the announcement of the creation of this

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† fund.† It's going to be to benefit

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† children's activities and areas for children

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† throughout the community.† They are starting

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† in the Dunmore area where they live, but the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Ryan Mason Mehalchick Memorial Fund you can

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† access it or contribute to it care of First

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† National Community Bank, 102 East Drinker

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Street in Dunmore, 18512.† And anything that

 

†††††††††† 25††††††† ††††††you could do to assist in that fund would be


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 10

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† appreciated by many.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yes.† I just wanted to

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† say to my fellow council members that

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Mr. Nardone from the Times Leader asked me

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† if we could prepare a list of announcements

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† that we make every week that he would be

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† able to publish them, and I think we have

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† asked ECTV to run them on the screen, so I

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† have made a short list of the ones I

 

††††††††† †10††††††††††††† announced, if the other council members

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† would, and we can give them to Kay after the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† meeting she can compile them and give them

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† to the media and then they can be advertised

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† accordingly.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Also, one other thing,

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† last week during caucus a list of proposed

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† projects for the stimulus package was

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† presented to us and compiled by us, I don't

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† know if I'm preempting anything, but I would

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† -- if you didn't mind I was going to read

 

†††††† ††††21††††††††††††† through them and if there is anyone that has

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† any suggestions for other projects we would

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† be certainly glad I think we would be glad

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† to entertain ideas that other people may

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† have, but these will be presented to the


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 11

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† mayor for his consideration for the money

 

† ††††††††††2††††††††††††† that hopefully we will receive from that

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† stimulus program, and these are in no

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† particular order.† It's not a priority, you

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† know, from top to bottom just a listing of

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† things:† Main Avenue curb sidewalks and

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† lighting from Jackson Street to Luzerne

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Street; Keyser Avenue storm water plan; East

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Elm Street water project on East Mountain;

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Cane Street drainage and paving; complete

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† renovations to city hall to properly house

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† juvenile detective office at OECD;

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† construction of a lighted sports complex

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† with ASA regulation field; basketball

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† walking trail -- basketball court walking

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† trail to replace South Side Sports Complex;

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† repairs to Parker Street Bridge an

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† elimination of flooding on Parker Street;

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† repairs to Rockwell Avenue and Lackawanna

 

††† †††††††20††††††††††††† Avenue Bridges; repairs to Crisp Avenue,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† damage called by flooding; street leveling

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† and curbs in Oakwood Estate; road repair and

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† redirection of storm water on Ridgeview

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Drive; sewer and road repair on North

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Cameron Avenue and Merrifield Street; road


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 12

 

 

†††† †††††††1††††††††††††† repair at the corner of Marvin and Wells

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† Street.† The road has collapsed several feet

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† into the ground.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† Additional lighting in neighborhoods

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† and in high crime areas or and high crime

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† areas; curb and sidewalk projects in the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† city neighborhoods; city street paving;

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Scranton Sewer Authority upgrades mandated

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† by EPA and DEP; and repair of underground

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† lighting problems at the Spruce Street

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† projects and 81 off-ramp into the City of

 

††††† †††††12††††††††††††† Scranton.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† Those are once that were presented

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† by council members, and I as I said, if

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† there is anyone that has any other

 

†††††††††† 16 †††††††††††††possibilities or ideas for projects that

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† could be included we would be -- we would

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† welcome the opportunity to put them with

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† this list, and that is all I have.† Fourth

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† order.† Citizens' participation.† Andy

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Sbaraglia.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† citizen of Scranton.† Fellow Scrantonians,

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† as we all know the state is 2 1/2 million

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† dollars in debt.† It's been really, really


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 13

 

 

††††††††††† 1††† ††††††††††put out.† They want to close our School for

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† the Deaf, okay?† But look at what they are

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† planning for the Connell Building?† They

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† have five million to put into that, another

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† four million they put into it and now they

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† are looking for another million.† Do you

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† wonder why this state is in debt?† I mean,

 

††††††††††† 8†††††† †††††††they don't make sense at all, mean, a man

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† buys a building he should be able to fix the

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† building.† They shouldn't ask the City of

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Scranton to -- well, the taxpayers.† Why

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† should all of the taxpayers have to pay the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† to fix his building, same with the 500 block

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† of Lackawanna Avenue when the debt is

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††† ††climbing in the city?† I don't know what

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† it's going to be next here, but 2 1/2

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† million and close the School for the Deaf,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† but then spend millions to fix up the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Connell building shows you where the

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† priority is in this administration in

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Harrisburg.† It's just too bad that they

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† care about -- well, let's look at it.† Where

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† money goes, money gets.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† Okay, let's get into Boscov's.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Boscov's sold off where Nissan is, that used


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††14

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† to be the Montgomery Ward garage.† He sold

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† that off from the mall project.† He also

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† sold the leases, $22 million he got for the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† leases at Boscov's.† We got very little from

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† it.† In fact, we got almost nothing from it.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Now, you said he pays $200,000 in the city,

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††† ††††but you didn't subject what we are paying

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† for his debt from that $200,000, so what

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† does that mean?† He is giving the city

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† nothing?† This man took the mall -- the last

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† time I checked the mall was on the books for

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† a 1 million I think 200,000.† He went and

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† got it reduced to 400,000.† I asked how he

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† did it and they said there is no record.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† All there is what it was and what it is.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† Now, when you start looking at some

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† of the other things, he is suing the

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† theatre.† Okay, he is suing the theatre.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† All of these things he is doing for himself.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Some people pointed out that he may be

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† generous, but I bet he is writing it off his

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† income tax.† When he takes it out of his

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† pocket that's generous.† When he writes it

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† off his taxes that isn't generous, it's just

 

††† †††††††25††††††††††††† a tax right off.† Well, we got to look into


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 15

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† those things.† If it was Boscov himself I

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† would say let him sink, but we are not

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† talking about Boscov as himself, we are

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† talking about probably thousands of people

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† and three million or what we are going give

 

†† †††††††††6††††††††††††† them, which we probably will be because I

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† don't see how we cannot give them, for them

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† sinking the 90 employees he says he has in

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† this area.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† And like I said before, what the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† heck, we lost millions at the Hilton Hotel,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† we got lots of money.† Somewhere along the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† line though they will catch up with

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† everybody, but most of us will be out of the

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† area, maybe even dead by then.† But like I

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† said before, Boscov hasn't been fair to us

 

††††† †††††17††††††††††††† as taxpayers.† He has been fair to himself

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† mand there is no question about that,

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† because when he went and reduced his taxes

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† on the mall that reflected us.† When he sold

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† the leases for $22 million and we got very

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† little out of it, that effected us, too.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† And then to find out we are paying for a

 

†††††††††† 24 †††††††††††††loan that was even another slap in the face,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† but like I say before, for Boscov's I would


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 16

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† let him sink, but for the sake of the 90

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† employees I say vote for the three million.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† It's a small price to pay for keeping a

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† family together, maybe a roof over their

 

††††††††† ††5††††††††††††† heads and whatever else that may come out of

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† it.† Thank you.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Mr. Sbaraglia.† Ozzie Quinn.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††† ††††††††††MR. QUINN:† Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Association.† First of all, the debt in the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† City of Scranton is soaring.† It's

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† $159 million of principle, and I learned

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† like when Mr. Martin was here, you know,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† these attorneys.† I know that one law firm

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† out of Philadelphia, Baylord, Spaar and

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Engersol, Henders, they have made $239,772,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† okay?† They have yet to pay and they are

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† going to have to pay Hourigan, Kluger and

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Quinn and Goldberg.

 

†††††††††† 20†††††††††††††† †††††††This is a lot of money.† Now, how

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† can we ever get out of debt if we keep on

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† spending this money for lawyers?† Now, what

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† the city administration is doing is

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† infantile, you know.† These people, you

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† know, taking a Machiavellian attitude, you


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 17

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† know, these people are suffering.† They have

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† families these firefighters and police, and

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† the taxpayers can't afford it, and if you

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† can do anything get them to the table and

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† separate this here thing, will you?† We

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† support the firefighters and the police.† We

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† would be insane if we didn't.† The other

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† thing is this here, you hire two new housing

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† inspectors, and I don't know if any is going

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† to be in the Hill, from my understanding

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† none of them are, but that's not what want

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† to ask you tonight.† I found out that the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† housing inspectors actually don't do the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† housing inspection.† Maybe Judy you is

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† answer this, there is contract with

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Mid-Atlantic Company who does the housing

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† inspections?

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: No, they are

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† underwriters, Ozzie, and they do inspections

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† for electrical service and plumbing and

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† things like that.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† Yeah, that's what I'm

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† saying.† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yes, I believe there

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† is.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 18

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN: Yes.

 

††††††††††† 2 †††††††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: I believe they do it.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Mr. Fiorini is involved with that.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† So saying that we have

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† housing inspectors is a -- -

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Well, they are

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† underwriters.† Besides an inspection you

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† need an underwriter's tag when you do

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† certain things.

 

††† †††††††10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN: Because none of the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† inspectors are qualified.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Well, they can't be

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† underwriters and be housing inspectors.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN: Do you know -- do you

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† know that the former director of your job,

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† okay, is working with Mid-Atlantic?

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yes.† Yes, I do know

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† that.† I do know that.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† You know, how can you --

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† how can you ever stop this corruption.† It's

 

†††††††††† 21†††††† †††††††unbelievable.† How can we ever get out of

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† it?† Nobody -- some of these people houses

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† were condemned and they never knew that

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Mid-Atlantic was around.

 

††††† †††††25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, they wouldn't


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 19

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† inspect their house, Ozzie.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† Well, they have to if

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† you are going --

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, it's an

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† underwriter.† It's a whole different thing,

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† different from house inspectors.† A house

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† inspector is not an underwriter with the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† utility company.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: You need both.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† So it's a whole

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† different ballgame.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† Do they go into the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† house with the inspectors?

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: I don't know that

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† answer.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† You know that because

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† you -- did you ever go in with them?

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I never in with an

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† underwriter.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN: Well, how did you condemn

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† a house?

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: They usually come in

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† later and inspect the work --

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN: That's not what I know.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: -- from the utility


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 20

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† company.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. QUINN:† That's not what I know.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† That's not what I know.† Because the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† inspectors do not know -- I know these

 

†††† †††††††5††††††††††††† people who were just hired, they are good

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† people, but they don't know diddly about

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† housing inspections.† Come on, Judy, you

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† know that.† Thank you.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Well, I wouldn't say

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† that about them.† I guess Mrs. Fowler and

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Mrs. Gillette are here to defend themselves.

 

†††††††††† 12†††††††††††††††† †††††MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Bill Jackowitz.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† Scranton resident and member of the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Taxpayers' Association.† Be courteous to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† all, but intimate with few and let those few

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† be well tried before you give them your

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† confidence.† George Washington said that.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Okay, free swimming.† I talked with

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Mr. Dougher from Parks and Recreation and he

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† assured me that everybody who will be paying

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† $3.00 to use the pool and use the slide this

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† year.† There will be no free swimming.† The

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† mayor is not offering free swimming to


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††21

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† anyone, so the most important aspect in my

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† opinion of Nay Aug Park is the pool and the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† slide.† Well, guess what?† You are going to

 

††††††††††† 4††††† ††††††††pay $3.00 to use it just like we have in the

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† past.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† We are starting the Free Swim

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Program.† Anyone who would like to make a

 

††††††††††† 8†††††††††† †††contribution, "Kids Swim Free," 1416 South

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Webster Avenue, Scranton, Pennsylvania,

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† 18505.† We are going to start early because

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† money is tight this year, although I guess

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† the mayor doesn't realize that because he is

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† still going to charge $3 for everybody to

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† use the pool and slide.† So, again, there is

 

†††††††††† 15†††††††††† †††no free swimming by the city, but there will

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† be free swimming sponsored by the Taxpayers'

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Association.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† The Connell building, I see where

 

†††††††††† 19† ††††††††††††they want another $1 million for the Connell

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† building.† When is going to stop?† When is

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† it going to stop?† How many more millions of

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† dollars of taxpayers' money, again, I

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† emphasized this before and I guess I will

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† have to emphasize it again.† There is a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† difference between private money and public


 

 

†††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††22

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† money.† Public money is my money.† Public

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† money is your money.† Private money is the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† person who owns that building's money.† They

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† are the ones that are going to reap the

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† profit.† They are ones that are going to

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† make the profits.† They are the ones who are

 

††††††††††† 7† ††††††††††††going to buy a car and the -- not the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† taxpayers.† The only thing the taxpayer is

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† going to do is suffer the loss if it fails.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† When is it going to stop?† Millions and

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† millions of dollars.† We got $30 million

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† plus tied up in the 500 block of Lackawanna

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† County and it's a mess and it's been a mess

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††† ††††for five years.† It's still a mess.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† There is more potholes, and I don't

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† know, I don't think that project is ever

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† going to finish.† I can't wait for it to

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† finish because I really want to see where

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† those 30 plus million dollars was spent.† I

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† really do.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† Now, there is a nasty rumor

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† circulating and I would like to get this

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† clear if I can tonight about people not

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† paying parking tickets.† Is that true?† Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Fanucci, is that true?


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 23

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I was waiting all day

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† since, obviously, you have been frequenting

 

††††††††††† 3† ††††††††††††the wonderful website.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: No, I do not go on

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† the website.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Well, okay.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: I don't own a

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† computer.† I don't even own a computer, but

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† people have been calling me and I said I

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† would bring it up.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: From what I gathered I

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† did go to figure out what was going on,

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† parking tickets were -- I do owe two right

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† now.† I do owe two parking tickets, so I am

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† guilty of that, but parking tickets in 2000

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† were under my name and my husband's name at

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† the time and he -- they were paid from what

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† I gathered.† I mean, it's not like they

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† weren't paid, so it seems to be a lot of

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† hype.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† He said that even when you settle --

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† he went in to pay that it didn't go on the

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† link as whatever, you paid them, but --

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ:† Okay, I appreciate

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† your candor, but there were also other names


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 24

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† mentioned of other influential people in the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† City of Scranton.† President McGoff, can you

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† check that out, please, because if people

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† have not been paying their parking tickets

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† for the last eight to nine years,

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† influential people within the City of

 

†††††† †††††7††††††††††††† Scranton, that's a lot of lost of revenue

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† that as been lost to the City of Scranton.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Some of this stuff is up to like 17, 18

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† hundred dollars in back parking tickets, so

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† if that's true I think we as citizens need

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† to know this and the people who have not

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† paid their parking tickets need to start

 

†††††††††† 14† ††††††††††††paying these tickets and also have some

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† fines and penalties assessed to them for

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† being late, just like we do with homeowners,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† so/SOERBGS can you please do that for me,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Mr. McGoff?

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: It's not that I'm

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† reluctant to, it's just that what you are

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† asking me to do is actually to investigate

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† what might be a criminal activity.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: Exactly.† But, I'm

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† not asking you to investigate it, I'm just

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† asking you to look into the matter.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 25

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Well, that's

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† investigating and, like I said, I'm not

 

†††† †††††††3††††††††††††† reluctant to but what I think what we are

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† looking at if you are serious this is

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† something that should be done through the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† District Attorney's Office.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: I agree with you.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Okay.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: I'm pretty sure it's

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† going to be done that way.† I was just

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† asking you if you were going to assist or

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† cooperate in the matter?

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: I will try.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: Okay.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: To what extent I can.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. JACKOWITZ: Okay.† I will take

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† that for what it's worth.† Thank you.† Also,

 

†††††††††† 18†††††††† †††††speakers at council meetings, you know --

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† well, I'll finish it later.† Got cut off by

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† the bell.† The bell ringer got me again.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Mr. Jackowitz.† Mike Dudek.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. DUDEK: Good evening, Council.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† My name is Mike Dudek, 608 Depot Street,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Scranton.† I live down there in the Plot.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 26

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Last week I spoke to you about the need to

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† keep the Scranton State School for the Deaf

 

†††††††††† †3††††††††††††† open, I think we all accept that.† This week

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† I'm going to explain to you how and why as

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† city council you should take the lead in

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† helping to keep it open.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† The newspaper reports that Senator

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Mellow and Representatives Smith and Kevin

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Murphy are greatly involved in it.† However,

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† it's just like playing bridge.† You pick up

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† your hand and you count your cards and you

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† assess the situation.† They are not the most

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† powerful people that you can get to do this.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Believe it or not, you are the five of you.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† As a city council there are two

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† basic responsibilities that you have, one is

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††††† †††to pass legislation for the city, and

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli pointed out the other one when

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† she pointed out how she was going to have

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† council write a letter supporting people

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† with their gas or their electric bills,

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† that's city council.† That's an example of

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† city council using it's voice in public

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† protest.† That is the second and most

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† valuable function, and I'm suggesting that


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 27

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† city council create a committee of the

 

†† †††††††††2††††††††††††† whole, and the membership of the committee

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† of the whole would be Mrs. Evans and Mrs.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Gatelli, Miss Fanucci, Mr. Courtright and

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† Mr. McGoff.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† Now, Mr. McGoff is the president of

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† city council so I don't think, unless he

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† wants to, I don't think he should be the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† president of this particular committee, he

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† should hand this one off to someone else

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† unless he wants it, okay, because this is a

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† committee of the whole that would report to

 

††† †††††††13††††††††††††† the president.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† And the committee of the whole would

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† spur a fundraising drive to help keep the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† school open, and my way of doing would be to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† approach Channel 16 because they have the

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† capability of making one wonderful

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† ten-minute stories about anything they want

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† to and in a ten-minute take they could do a

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† wonderful story about the Scranton State

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† School for the deaf, with that tape one of

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† you or two of you or three of you could

 

††††† †††††24††††††††††††† approach the management of the world

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† champion Philadelphia Philly's, ask them to


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 28

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† see this tape, and ask them to help support

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† a fund drive here.† Ryan Howard got what,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† $54 million for three years for batting 251

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† last season.† Fifty-four million and he hit

 

† ††††††††††5††††††††††††† 251.† I think they can probably come up with

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† a few dollars for us.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† Now, it might be a problem

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† approaching the Rooney family of the world

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† champion Pittsburgh Steelers because western

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Pennsylvania has their own school for the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† deaf, and that's a private institution, but

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† I would try it.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† Now, take a look at say all of you,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† if you find somebody in the City of Scranton

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† who is really into theatre who is close to

 

†††††††††† 16†† †††††††††††an actress named Marlee Matlin, you ever

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† hear of her?† The deaf actress, deaf and

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† dumb, what if she were to find out that the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† governor of the State of Pennsylvania wants

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† to close the first ever school for the deaf

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† ever built anywhere in the world?† I think

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† ballistic would be a good way to describe

 

†††††††††† 23††††† ††††††††what would happen there.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† There are many different ways we

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† could do this.† Also, as a city council


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 29

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† working together as a committee of the whole

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† you could approach the leaders of this

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† community, the movers and the shakers of

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† this community to help spur a fundraising

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† drive.† I think we would probably need in

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† the neighborhood of a million and a half to

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† two million dollars to put together to start

 

† ††††††††††8††††††††††††† an endowment for the school to keep it

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† together, but if we do something like this

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† it will certainly show the governor that the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† community wants this school open.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† There is nothing to stop the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† governor from closing this school because I

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† haven't really seen that, what can I put it,

 

†††††††††† 15††† ††††††††††community anger, community upset about it.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† He could get away with doing it if we just

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† let it happen, and just having two

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† representatives and a state senator that's

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† not enough.† It's just not enough to do it.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† We have to be the people in that

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Verizon commercial that you see, the guy

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† with his Verizon phone and he shows all the

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† people behind him, we have to do that, and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† we to do it by raising the fund in a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† communitywise drive, but I'm asking council


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 30

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† to appoint itself as a committee of the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† whole to get it started.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dudek.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Lee Morgan.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MORGAN:† Good evening, city

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† council.† The first thing I have, 5-C, I

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† would just -- I would like the council to

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† vote "No" on that.† And on 7-C I would like

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† the council to vote "No" on that.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† You know, I sat through these

 

†††††††††† 11†††††††††††† †meetings tonight, but when we started to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† talk about the city's alleged indifference

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† to having a contract with the police and

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† fire, it's just ashame that it took this

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† long for somebody to decide to have some

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† dialogue, at least in this chambers, and I

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† mean I know that the election is coming up.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† But, you know, it's just no excuse for this

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† thing to have gone this far because there

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† were statements made from this side about

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† PEL and OECD years ago and asking this

 

†† ††††††††22††††††††††††† council and previous councils, let's come up

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† with an agreement.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† But I do have to say this there is

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† one person who decided to start this fight,


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 31

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† and he is the mayor's office and then, of

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† course, the people who are his supporters,

 

††††††††††† 3†††† †††††††††not just on this council, but other

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† councils, didn't realize in my opinion that

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† they had an obligation to the community in

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† general to make sure that this battle never

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† got to the point it's reached now, and now

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† that the battle is burning, now that the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† battle is just beginning to -- it looks like

 

†††††††††† 10†††††††††† †††the fire they had if Australia because this

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† thing is starting to burn completely out the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† control, and now the city may not have the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† funds to fight this battle because now the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† unions have been joined by people that

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† understand what's going on here.† And the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† people that are the ones that are going to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† be hurt the most are the people that you all

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† represent, they are the people in the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† neighborhoods, and you failed every single

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† one of them.

 

†††††††††† 21†††††††††† †††††††††††I mean, I'm glad that tonight we saw

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† that there was a little bond here between

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† council.† There has been some communication

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† and some understanding, but that needed to

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† happen a long time ago.† I think that this


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 32

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† council and this mayor have forgotten who

 

††††††††††† 2†† †††††††††††they represent, just like our national

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† government has now that we find ourselves in

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† an economic meltdown and everybody is losing

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† all their assets.

 

†††† †††††††6††††††††††††††††††††† I think this council needs to really

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† take good hard look at what it wants to

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† accomplish and, you know, we are talking

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† about the government stimulus program, you

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† know, Mr. McGoff, my idea for the stimulus

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† would be to start a curb and sidewalk

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† program and maybe you should go to the labor

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† unions and maybe some private contractors

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† and try to create a fund that will continue

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† to fund itself by going to people in the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† neighborhoods and asking them if they would

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† like to contribute and maybe we can begin

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† real infrastructure in this city and curbs

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† and sidewalks, and maybe we should start

 

†††††††††† 20††† ††††††††††somewhere like on Loomis Street over on West

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Side across from St. Ann's Street, all

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† right, because you know something, and I

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† just picked that out of my head, I really

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† don't care where we start.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† But, you know, we have wasted a lot


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 33

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† of time with the Connell building and giving

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† people money and now we are starting to talk

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† about a replacement for the South Side

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Sports Complex, why are we replacing assets

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† we already own and can we could anything for

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† the average person in this city besides tax

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† them into total oblivion and have just

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† elected officials who don't do their jobs?

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Morgan.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Joe Talimini.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. TALIMINI: Looks like a fun night

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† tonight.† We have a problem again with the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† storm sewers, I think everybody on this

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† council knows what they are.† That's the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††† ††††place where the water is supposed to drain

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† down.† Nobody seems to know which streets

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† belongs to who, whether it's PennDOT or

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† whether it's DPW, but the other day as you

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† well know our building is undergoing major

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† reconstruction right now, I took a walk down

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† on the corner of Olive and North Washington,

 

†††††††††† 23†††††††††† †††and the only thing that's lacking is a

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† concrete wall over that storm drain because

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† I put a yard stick down there and I came up


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††34

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† with 20 inches of sludge, and a whole about

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† that big for the water to drain through.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† After that I took a walk around the

 

††††††††††† 4††††† ††††††††block, went down Wyoming, I went further

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† down Washington Avenue, don't we have some

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† means whatsoever to extract the sludge and

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† things?

 

††††††††††† 8†††††† †††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: Yes, we do.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. TALIMINI: I mean, do they ever

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† use it?

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yes, they do.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. TALIMINI: When?

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Every day.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. TALIMINI: Where do they use it?

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† They sure don't use it in our area?

 

†††††††††† 16†††††††††††††††††† †††MS. GATELLI: Well, we'll report that

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† for you.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. TALIMINI: Well, it would be very

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† nice because, you know, with all of this

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† construction going on and we have a pile of

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† snow this high three days after the snow

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† fall.† It's just melting now because there

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† is no place for it to go, which knocks out

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† two parking space in that area, there are

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† limited parking spaces.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 35

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† I don't know how to tell them, but

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† the rainy season is coming in soon and

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† unless that sludge is removed we are going

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† to have a hell of a mess once again down on

 

†††††††† †††5††††††††††††† Olive Street, all the way down to Providence

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Road, the kids are going to be hiking over

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the railroad tracks to get home from school,

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† etcetera, and it's a nice condition.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† I don't know what to say about this

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† intransigeance on the part of the mayor.† I

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† will say one thing, he is a very urealistic

 

†††††††† ††12††††††††††††† mayor and it seems that we have some lead

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† councilmen within the same position, but I

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† don't think there is any real intransigence

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† on this police and fire deal.† It's about

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† time that everybody grew up here.† I mean,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† if you want to pat yourself on the back

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† that's one thing, but don't do it at the

 

†††††††††† 19†† †††††††††††expense of the taxpayers because this city

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† needs to reign in it's spending.† I mean, we

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† have supported lawyers, I'm sure there are

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† lawyers all over the world who would like to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† move to the Scranton because of the bucks

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† they can make here.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† You know, it's time take a good look


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††36

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† in the mirror, a real good look in the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† mirror and see if you are really doing your

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† job.† I know you are limited in what you can

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† do, but then again, there are those of you

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† who have access to that office downstairs

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† and nobody else has.† And I asked Mr. Martin

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the last time he spoke to the mayor

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† face-to-face and he said he never has.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† That's ridiculous.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† I mean, if this man wants to keep

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† his job the least he could do is represent

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† the people, not himself and his own

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† self-interests, and I'm not going to hammer

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† on this thing eternally, but until this guy

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† starts doing something maybe it's time for a

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† change.† Thank you very much.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Talimini.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Jim Stucker.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Okay.† Right across the

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† street from where Courtright therapist's

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† thing is or where the post office is

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† handicapped people can't get to the mailbox.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Why, Jim?

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: On account of people

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† parking in front of the mailbox.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††37

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Jim, they are

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† allowed to pull up there and put the stuff

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† in the mailbox.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER:† Yeah, but there's

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† people -- there's people trying to get to

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† the mailbox, handicaps, they can't because

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† of the cars parked in front of the mailbox

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† right in front of it.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: All right.† And a lot

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† of holes out there.† I mean, I was riding my

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† bike today first time, I had it out today.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Your scooter?

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: No, my pedal bike, and

 

†††††††††† 15†††† †††††††††they got to start fixing the holes in the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† road, Parrot Avenue, South Side, Moosic

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Street, Greenridge, a lot of holes in

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Greenridge really bad.† I'm afraid someone

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† is going to bust their tire.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Now, in front of my building on

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Jefferson Avenue one of our handicapped

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† signs is down, somebody -- a big truck must

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† have took it, took it and bent it off and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† broke it to the bottom, it's laying on the

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† sidewalk up there so, because we have


 

 

††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††38

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† problems.† Lots.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† And I talked to Mayor Doherty and he

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† said you got -- Courtright's got a lot of

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† money.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: The mayor said I had

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† a lot of money?

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Yeah.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll trade him, how

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† about that.† He could have my money and I'll

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† take his.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: I was walking -- I seen

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† him walking up to the building today here,

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† this building, and I talked to him and he

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† says he had to be in a hurry he had to go to

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† meeting today.† So he told me thank you very

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† much for donating money for me, 25 bucks.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, you are welcome,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Jim.† You are welcome.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Yeah.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Well, thank you, Jim.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Our sidewalks are

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† really getting bad.† Really, really bad.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Especially in front of Tink's and in front

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† of Judge and Jury.† They are really bad.† I

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† was with a guy today they fixed the guy's


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †39

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† pipe today, he had a sewage busted, so Judge

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† and Jury is not doing their jobs, they are

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† not doing the sidewalks, they're not

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† cleaning them, they are not picking up the

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† butts, and I'm not going to do it.† I do it

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† for Danny Sheeley once in awhile, I pick up

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the garbage for him.

 

††††††††††† 8†† †††††††††††††††††††MR. MCGOFF:† We'll have to look into

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† that, all right?

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Yeah, because I have

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† been looking for a side job.† I'm getting

 

††††† †††††12††††††††††††† bored sitting around.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Well, good luck.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: We need more cops.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Absolutely.

 

††††††††† †16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER:† We got to get them in

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† South Side, they are all over.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: All right, Jim.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Greenridge needs a lot.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Would you put a -- I

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† don't know his name, you should write a

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† 'tition and go to the house, go to house t

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† house and have a petition wrote up and have

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† the sidewalks done and the streets cleaned.


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††40

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† We need a sweeper out there.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† What about that house on Moosic

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Street, are they going to rip that down?† I

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† was there the other day and they didn't do

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† nothing with it?

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Thought you said it

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† was Greenridge Street, Jim.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: On Greenridge, yeah, by

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† McGinty's.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: You are right.† They

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† should ripe it down.† They boarded it up

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† though.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: Yeah, I seen the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† boards, yeah.† They got to do something with

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† that.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: You are right.

 

††††††† †††17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. STUCKER: There's a lot of houses

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† they should tear down.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† AUDIENCE MEMBER: Next.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Please.

 

†††††††††† 21††† ††††††††††††††††††MR. STUCKER: So that's all we can

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† do.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Jim, thank you very

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† much.† Marie Schumacher.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening.† Marie


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 41

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Schumacher, resident and member of the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† Taxpayers' Association.† First, I'd like to

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† report, because nobody on council answered

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† when I asked several times, I did a

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† Right-to-Know and Yanni's did repay their

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† loan to OECD.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† Then last week at the caucus on the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† KOZ's, I believe it was you, Mr. McGoff,

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† said the KOZ might be preferable to not

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† collecting any taxes at all.† The only

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† reason I believe that property where the Mt.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Pleasant Development is going in would be

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† eligible for an extension is because it runs

 

††††† †††††14††††††††††††† next to the small parcel at the end, at the

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† corner of Linden and whatever that other

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† street is because it is a KOZ.† That

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† property where Mt. Pleasant is actually

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† going to be built paid to the city and the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† school last year $15,638.63 in taxes, and it

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† is on the books to be billed for taxes for

 

†††††††††† 21† ††††††††††††this year.† It is currently not a KOZ, so we

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† would get property taxes from that parcel,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† just so everyone is aware.† It's not an

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† extension of an existing KOZ it's really the

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† expansion of a very tiny KOEZ to include


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 42

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† 20.63 additional acres.

 

††††††††††† 2†††††††††††††† †††††††Three, the Ice Box.† Mrs. Gatelli,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† several weeks ago you said forget about that

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† $600,000, that council had given it away,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† turns out it was on the agenda one time and

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† it is tabled and it never came back to the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† agenda, so I see no reason since council has

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† not take any action why you can't have this

 

††††††††††† 9†††††††††† †††the solicitor review that contract which if

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† it was reported correctly in the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Times-Tribune at the time $600,000 was due

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† and payable the day that the DPW moved out

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† and I think the city could use that

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† $600,000.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: I'll have Attorney

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Minora investigate that.

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††† †††††††††††††MS. SCHUMACHER: And then next --

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: It was 20 years ago,

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† but --

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER:† I'd like to amend

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††† ††Governor -- or President Reagan's -- going

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† back to my California days, trust and verify

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† was his motto, I'd like to say trust, verify

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† and get it in writing.† Several years ago

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Mrs. Fanucci swore to Andy Sbaraglia that


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 43

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† the 408 Cedar Area Avenue property had been

 

††††††††††† 2† ††††††††††††appraised, I did a Right-to-Know and found

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† out through OECD the property had never been

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† appraised.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I don't think I swore.

 

††††††† ††††6††††††††††††† That's a little drastic.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: Okay.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I didn't swear.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: You just

 

†††††††††† 10††††† ††††††††misreported.† Okay.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, sometimes, Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Schumacher, sometimes --

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: But we take -- it's

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††† ††††my time.† It's my time, excuse me.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: You can have your time.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: No, because Mr.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Minora won't --

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††† ††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: But sometimes we report

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† what we are told.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: I understand that,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† but it would be nice to trust -- you trust

 

††††††††† †22††††††††††††† those people too much.† Get it in writing.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† That's what I'm saying.† Also, the UDAG

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† funding, when that -- when all that's a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† consolidation of the UDAG funding Mrs. Evans


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 44

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† -- or no, excuse me, it was Mr. McTierney

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† asked about that, whether that would still

 

††††††† ††††3††††††††††††† have to come back before council,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli you said, "Oh, yes."

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Yeah, we all said

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† yeah.

 

††††††††††† 7†††††††††††††††† †††††MS. SCHUMACHER: Attorney Minora

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† said, "Oh, yes."

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† Did you get it in writing?† No.† And

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† the mayor has been giving away UDAG funds

 

†††††††††† 11†††††††† †††††without coming through council.† It's wrong

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† and you need to get it in writing.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† There is another one, Alexander's.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Alexander's.† Mr. Courtright when it came up

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† that it was really not a loan, a quarter of

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† a million dollars loan on top of buying that

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† small parcel kiddy-corner from Alexander's

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††† ††for $273,000 that that was not going to be a

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† loan to Alexander's that if they hired eight

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† people within three years, and by the way

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† they didn't have to make any payments for

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† the first three years, so if they hired it,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† in fact, became a grant and the loan was

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† forgiven.† You reported, Mr. Courtright, and

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††† ††††lead all of us, I believe, at least you lead


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 45

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† me to believe that that had been changed.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† You said you met with Lori Reed, the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† assistant OECD person, and that that was --

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† you told her that council did not want that,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† I felt that that was taken care of and it

 

††††††††††† 6††††† ††††††††was out, but now through Right-to-Know where

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† are finding out that that very clause still

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† is in the contract, so two more years if

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† they've got the requisite eight employees

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† that will turn into another grant.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† And that segways into Boscov's.† I

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† just have a couple of comments on the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Boscov's.† Oh, come on.† That was too quick.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli --

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: I took about 10

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† seconds, Mr. Minora.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER: I'll take three

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† seconds to read this then, if I may.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Please.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. SCHUMACHER:† Remember the risk,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† the collateral for this loan is future CDBG

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† funding meant to help low and moderate

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† income persons.† If this loan defaults, it

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† these people who will have to absorb the

 

††††† †††††25††††††††††††† loss which represents almost a full year's


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 46

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† CDBG grant money.† Two, remember what

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† message this sends to successful businesses.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† You are rewarding a business that made bad

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† decisions and using money that could be used

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† to help successful businesses expand.† And,

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† finally, keep in mind that the Bosov's 22

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† stores which are owned by Boscov's and not

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† leased are pledged as collateral for the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† county loans to the state and lien also has

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† been offered on their inventory to the state

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† to cover those -- the county loans, and I'll

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† be back next week I hope.† Thank you.

 

†† ††††††††13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you, Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Schumacher.† Mr. Ellman.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. ELLMAN: Ronnie Ellman, homeowner

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† and member of the Taxpayers' Association.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Boy, you thought last week was bad when I

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† told you I fell through my garage roof, this

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† week started out the same thing.† Miss

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Rosie's cat was sick and it looked terrible,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† so I threw him in the car and went to

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Mr. Gadd in Old Forge, and $425 later I

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† found out the cat was constipated.† You

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† know, there's all kinds of problems and I

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† got a $350 gas bill and here I had to fix


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 47

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† the cat.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† You know, if anyone wants to know

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† what's going on in this city you need to

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† talk to a cab driver.† I talked to one now

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† and then, they know more information than

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† all of the police and the firemen and

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† everybody that works for city.† They just

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† seem to know all of these little things that

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† are never in the paper and never on TV.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† It's very interesting what goes on.† I won't

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† get into it.† They will tell you a lot of

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† things that -- well, maybe I better not,

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† crimewise that aren't in the paper that

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† surprised me.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† One guy was telling me that

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† somewhere along the way something was just

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† lost the after the election with

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Mr. Doherty, and I have talked to a whole

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† bunch of people in the administration.† This

 

†††††††††† 20†††† †††††††††morning I phoned everybody in the Licensing

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Bureau and all I got at 8:30 all I got was

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† one recording after another and nobody is in

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† their office at 8:30.† That's -- I mean,

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† everybody.† Finally about 9:00 I got

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Mr. Moletsky?


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 48

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Oleski.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. ELLMAN: Yeah, I finally got him

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† on the phone.† I got this nightmare next

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† door to me that I have been complaining

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† about, you know, I know things can't be done

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† overnight and they are doing something, but

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† you can spend 100 billion dollars on South

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Side and you are not going to achieve your

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† goals.† I sat here two years ago when

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† everybody was attacking Tony's and Mary's,

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† the neighborhoods were what changed, the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† people changed.† That little bar didn't

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† change, you know, it was the same way it was

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† for three years.† The absentee landlords are

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† just ruination of this town like the one

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† next door to me.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Right on, Ron.† I'm

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† with you.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. ELLMAN: They gutted the house a

 

†††††††††† 20††††††† ††††††little bit yesterday and they had 25 or

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† 30 feet of wood and trash out on the

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† sidewalks for the garbage men to pick up, so

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† they didn't pick it up this morning, of

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† course, so I don't know, about a couple of

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† hours later the DeNaple's truck come and


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 49

 

 

††††††††††† 1†††††††††††† †there is three guys that took three men to

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† pick it up, but that's what goes on and

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† there is no permit in the window to be

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† working on the house, you know.† I don't

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† know.† They got a big sign advertising his

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† business in the backyard and they tell me

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† they can't do nothing, they have to catch

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† him doing something.† I don't know.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† I guess I understand that, but there

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† is two brothers own this house and they just

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† don't care what goes on as long as they get

 

††† †††††††12††††††††††††† some rent out of place.† It's for sale, of

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† course, nobody wants to buy nothing, but it

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† seems to me the only way a taxpayer has to

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† fight something like this is ask your

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† property to be reassessed because they are

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† diminishing my property.† They are running

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† the whole neighborhood trying to run the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† business from a house, and I have talked to

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† a couple of neighbors they just don't care.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† I've never seen such empathy.† It's like

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† nobody votes, they just don't care.† The man

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† across the street told me is too old, he

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† doesn't want to get involved, and the people

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† down the street said they don't know what to


 

 

†††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††50

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† do and, you know, it just senseless.† It's

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† just senseless.† It's ashame.† I don't know,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† I won't tell you all my problems, I'll go

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† home and see how my kitty is doing.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† But, I saw something on TV a couple

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† of weeks ago that when Mr. Cuomo was

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† elected, I'm not sure to which office, it

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† just showed a little couple of seconds of

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† him talking, he got up and said, "Not

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† everyone in this city is sharing in it's

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† splendor and glory."

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† And that certainly is true for this

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† city.† You know, I talked to people that

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† they're just hurting and they don't have

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† just no future here.† My two boys are

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† talking about, both of them, one might go to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Atlanta, the other one said -- they don't

 

†††††††††† 18† ††††††††††††want my house, and my house looks good since

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† the fire and it's worth some money and

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† neither one to stay here, you know, they

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† don't care about the house or nothing.† If

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† you don't keep people here like Mr. Miller,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† you know, there is not going to be any

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† future.† You can't have a bunch of these

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††† ††kids that are hanging around the mall


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 51

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† running the city.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you Mr. Ellman.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. ELLMAN: Thank you.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Dobson

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. DOBSON: Good evening, Council.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Dave Dobson.† Scranton resident and member

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† of the Taxpayers'.† On our caucus tonight

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† with Mr. Martin, those employees that are

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† going to be left out in the cold, a thought

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† occurred to me, I was involved with the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† union negotiations and representing people

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† years back and if they settled that contract

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† under those terms and somebody was turned

 

††† †††††††14††††††††††††† out in the street for medical care by both

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the union and had no recourse, they could

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† probably sue for failure to represent.† They

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† could actually sue the unions, so the union

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† isn't locked into monitoring their

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† responsibility to them.† They can't back out

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† of it or they'll pay the bill some day, and

 

††††††† †††21††††††††††††† I'd like to once again mention the Scranton

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† School for the Hearing Impaired and the

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† medical school, did anything go out on the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† medical school last week?

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yeah, we sent the


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 52

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† letters.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. DOBSON: Great.† And keep up the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† heat because there is no reason why after we

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† were guaranteed money it should be passed

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† back down to us and have the carpet pulled.

 

††††††††††† 6††††† ††††††††††††††††Last week, there was a business

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† conference on Sno Mountain, and I didn't see

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† whether anybody from the city was involved,

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† but I noticed that there was a manufacturer

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† of solar panels looking to relocate into

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† this area, and it would be awfully nice to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† see the former Murray plant area turned into

 

†††††††††† 13††††† ††††††††some type of manufacturing for that.† I got

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† the impression over time that some of our

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† representatives in that area don't really

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† understand manufacturing, so they gravitate

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† more towards office complexes and so forth,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† and that's great, but unless we continue to

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† manufacture this country is finished.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††† ††††††††††††Another thing I would like to

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† mention is compensation from the state for

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† 501-C's.† I think we should keep the heat on

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† that and get to our local representatives or

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† state representatives.† The bill died in

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Congress the last time and it's way past due


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 53

 

 

††††††††††† 1††† ††††††††††that we be compensated for 501-C's.† We in

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† the city have an ungodly amount of them and

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† there is no reason for them to be up in the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† middle of the country anyway, the hospital

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† or whatever.† Everybody would be dead by the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† time we got rushed there.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† I seen an editorial on ECTV in the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Scranton Times and I would just like to say

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† that, of course, I stood up for Scranton

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Today and fought and fought and fought, but

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† at this point and being an election year I

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† don't see the value of closing down ECTV at

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† this time.† These people are basically out

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† on a limb every day, they are doing their

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† jobs and trying and anything that if

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† anything it's been the failure of the city

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† to provide what money they promised.† You

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† know, it's just wrong to -- if they pull the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† carpet on ECTV or pull the plug on them now

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† we are probably looking at Spring of 2010 or

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† something until we see somebody else getting

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† involved and getting up unless somebody

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† knows something that I don't, which they may

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† possibly know, but at this point in time

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† it's just going to maybe possibly end public


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 54

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† access TV for quite sometime.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† And the lot that was bought off

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Alexander's, the ice was terrible on that

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† and that contractor should be responsible or

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† the city for removing the ice on that lot.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† There is no reason for those sidewalks to be

 

††† ††††††††7††††††††††††† in that kind of condition.† I mean, it was

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† terrible Buono Pizza was cleared, which is

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† their obligation, and it's a city-owned lot

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† and nothing was done to it.† Absolutely

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† nothing.† We could hold the skating rink

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† right there if we want to.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††† ††††††††††MR. DOBSON: Have a good day.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Any other speakers?

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. KACHUNIS: Good evening.† My name

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† is Carl Kachunis.† I'm a resident of the

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† lower Greenridge section of Scranton.† The

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† reason I'm here this evening is to inform

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† residents of the Plot and lower Greenridge

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† neighborhoods who are victims of the 2006

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† flood about a possible error in their 2009

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† property taxes.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† In October of 2004, all homeowners

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† in the city who have received application


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 55

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† for the Act 72 Homestead and Farmstead

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† Exclusion on their property taxes.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Depending on when he filed the application,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† they would have received a letter through

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† the county indicating whether their

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† application was approved or denied.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† In March of 2005, I received a

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† letter of approval from the county.† The

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Homestead Farmstead Exclusion was not

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††† ††††applied to property taxes until the 2009 tax

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† year.† When I received my property tax bill

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† this year expecting to get the discount from

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Act 72, not only was there no discount, my

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† property taxes actually had gone up.† I

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† called and visited the Lackawanna County Tax

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Office and they informed me that I was

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††††† †††denied for the Homestead Exclusion.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† However, I had a letter of approval that I

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† received from the county in 2005.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Upon further investigation, the tax

 

†† ††††††††21††††††††††††† office had told me of that assessment on my

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† property had changed in the 2007 tax year.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† The reason it had changed is because the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† 2007 tax year residents of the lower

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Greenridge and Plot neighborhood who got


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 56

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† flood by the Lackawanna County River had

 

†††††† †††††2††††††††††††† their property taxes reduced.† That year

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† they only got taxed on the land, but not the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† improvement.† What this did was anyone who

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† was approved for the Homestead Exclusion was

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† now denied.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† I spoke to some of my neighbors in

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† the lower Greenridge, and found out there

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† were more taxpayers in the flood zone who

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† this also had happened to.† However, I'm

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† sure that some taxpayers that do not care to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† review their tax bill every year may be not

 

† †††††††††13††††††††††††† aware that they should have received the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Homestead Exclusion.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† The Lackawanna County Tax Office is

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† currently trying to resolve this issue

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† because I was approved for the exclusion and

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† should have received the Act 72 discount on

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† my property tax, but did not because of the

 

†††††††††† 20†††††††††††† †flood in 2007.† I urge any resident of lower

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Greenridge and Plot section who were flooded

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† to check to see if the Act 72 Exclusion was

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† applied to their 2009 property taxes.† If

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† they were not applied and you were approved,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† they will request a letter of approval from


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 57

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† the county.† They should call the county tax

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† office at 963-6728, Extension 1623, and

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† inform them of the error.† Right now the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† county is working on the issue.† It has not

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† been resolved as of yet.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† Finally, I have a question, during

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the last meeting in our neighborhood with

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† the Army Corp of Engineers in 2008, they

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† said the flood protection should be

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† completed as far as the Albright Avenue

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† bridge by the final quarter of Year 2009.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† In the last several months, the flood

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† control project appears to be at a

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† standstill and is only completed as far as

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the East Market Street bridge.† Does have

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† this a current timetable when the flood

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† protection will be completed in the lower

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Greenridge Neighborhood.† Thank you very

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† much for your time.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Kachunis.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Stephanie Gawel.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL: Good evening, Council.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† I'm going to be a little bit all over the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† place again, I'm not quite as organized as

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† I'd like to be.† All right, I first want to


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 58

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† start by saying, God bless you and thank you

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† to all the military personnel who are

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† serving this country with honor and courage

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† and sacrifice, but I was also wondering if

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† any of the these organizations can help

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† their semi-military counterparts with

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† fundraising for defibrillators in the police

 

†††††††† †††8††††††††††††† cars.† I do want to thank Mr. Courtright and

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† other people of the council for looking into

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† the matter for us.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† Okay, new subject.† I know

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Mr. Morgan and Mrs. Krake touched on this

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† subject, but I have missed some of the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† meetings and didn't catch all of it on TV, I

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† would like to know why NCC is collecting the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† delayed garbage fees?† Isn't NCC supposed to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† be collecting taxes?† And there is a

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† difference.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† They do delinquent

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† garbage fees, too.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL:† But why?† It's a fee,

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† it's not a tax, and if they are collecting

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† that are they only collecting the 12 percent

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† and do they get the 12 percent late fee

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† instead of the city like it used to?


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 59

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I'll check into that.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL: Okay.† Thank you very

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† much.† Oh, I had my taxes done a couple of

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† weeks ago and in having them done I was

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† talking to the tax person and he informed

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† me, you know, that if we could get the other

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† municipalities to actually collect the right

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† amount in the wage taxes that we wouldn't be

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† in half of the financial situation we are

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† in, maybe we should only collect half of

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† their municipal taxes and see how they like

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† it and, you know, maybe we can get, you

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† know, because, I mean, it's ridiculous.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† This kid said to me literally we would not

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† be in this situation we are if people would

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† pay their wage taxes the way it should be.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† The other municipalities don't collect it,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† you know, the correct amount and this is why

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† we don't get what we deserve so, all right.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Onto West Side, on the corner of

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Main Avenue and Colick Court, which is by

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Dan Proby's car lot, do you know how long

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† that has been sitting -- that drainage ditch

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† has been sitting their broke, at least a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† year I'm aware of, probably two.† It has a


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 60

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† pallet over it.† It has a horse over it, but

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† it's -- you know, I mean, it's just

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† ridiculous.† I don't understand why and it's

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† been like that for really quite awhile,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† because I work in Taylor and I travel back

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† and forth from South Side to Taylor, so

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† that's the back route that everybody would

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† take so I'm well aware of it, I see it every

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† day.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† Also, I was wondering did anybody

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† knows what happened to the bronze plaque

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† that had Mayor Schmidt's -- so that like if

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† we ever get a new South Side complex of any

 

††††† †††††14††††††††††††† kind we can give it back to the proper --

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† you have got that one, Mr. Courtright?

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† We looked into it

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† and they don't know where it is now; right?

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: We looked into that year

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† after year dating back to 2003 or four and

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† we received various tales about the

 

†††††††††† 21††† ††††††††††disappearance of the sign and,

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† unfortunately, to date it has never been

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† found.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL: Well, I heard you guys

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† mention about in the wish list, I guess I'll


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 61

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† call it for the stimulus, you had talked

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† about doing a little something in South

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Side.† Now, does that include a baseball

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† field that, you know, you were talking about

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† the record?† The wish list you guys had.

 

††††††††††† 6†††††††††††††††† †††††MS. GATELLI:† That was to replace

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the field.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL:† Yeah, but is there going

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† to be a baseball field in the replacement,

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††† ††in other words.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: If there is a replacement

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† there should be an ASA regulation softball.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: That's softball.

 

†††††††††† 14† ††††††††††††††††††††MS. EVANS: And there should be a

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† hardball field as well.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL: Yeah.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: And a walking trail.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††† ††††††††††††††MS. GAWEL:† That would be nice.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: And baseball -- well, it

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† should completely replace what has been

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† taken.

 

†††††††††† 22†††††††††††† †††††††††MS. GAWEL: Yeah, because, I mean,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† like even now, like, all of a sudden for

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† whatever the reason you've got goalposts up

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† in the middle of it, you know, the other


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 62

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† complex so it's almost like they did that so

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† the kids couldn't even go down and fool

 

††††††††††† 3†††††††††† †††around if they wanted to, you know, because

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† nobody really uses them, you know.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: It's used by some

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† football teams, that's why the goal posts go

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† up.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GAWEL: Well, most of the time

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† the only thing I see is soccer.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Yes.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††† ††††MS. GAWEL: You know, it's like the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† mayor took out all of the baseball fields

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† and put in all soccer fields, but, thank

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† you.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Gawel.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Les Spindler.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: Les Spindler, city

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† resident, homeowner and taxpayer.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli, last week you mentioned a

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† bunch areas that have neighborhood

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† associations.† In Tripp Park we also have a

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† neighborhood association along with

 

†††††††††† 23††††††† ††††††neighborhood crime watch and we meet the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† first Tuesday of every month at 7:00 in the

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Tripp Park Community Center if anyone is


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††63

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† interested.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† Mr. Courtright, did you talk to

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† anyone from the Scranton Ford?† You said you

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† were going to speak to someone last week?

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† We sent a letter

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† down to licensing and inspections.† We

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† haven't got a response, have we, Kay?

 

††††††††††† 8†††††††††† †††††††††††MR. SPINDLER: Because I know they

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† did them back about three feet, but it is

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† still not enough.† I mean, if you walk

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† straight from their sidewalks to where the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† cars are you walk right in the course they

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† still can move them back a lot farther.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† There is a police

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† officers here, wouldn't be that be a police

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† matter?† A vehicle on a sidewalk?† It's a

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† motor vehicle, I don't know that License and

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Inspection have jurisdiction over motor

 

† †††††††††19††††††††††††† vehicles?† I'd send it to --

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: I sent the letter to

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Mike Wallace from zoning.† That's where it

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† went.† I'm sorry, Mr. Spindler.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: Mr. Courtright, last

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† week you mentioned about asking CDTV if they

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† could have the replays of the prime time and


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††64

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† you were told absolutely not.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER:† That just shows the

 

†††††††† †††4††††††††††††† arrogance of this people.† I mean, something

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† has to done with this station.† I put on the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† replay Sunday night and you couldn't hear

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the few first minutes of Mr. Boscov

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† speaking, the audio was totally off, and I

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† have to put my audio after it came on up to

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† 100 and I could barely hear it at that time,

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† and the programming is terrible and, like I

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† said, I'm not the only saying that now, I

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† see where Commissioner O'Brien is also

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† saying that the programming stinks because

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† he is not going to give them any money until

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† the programming is better and I think

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† council should follow in his lead because

 

†††††††††† 18†††††† †††††††this station is just a joke.† It's not a

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† fraction of what Scranton Today used to do.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Moving on, you know, I thought the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† mismanagement of the Single Tax Office left

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† when Mr. McDowell left, but I guess it's

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† still being mismanaged.† Channel 16 ran a

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† story last week about tax bills being sent

 

†††††††††† 25†††††††††† †††to the wrong address, one was even sent to a


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 65

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† dead person and Mrs. Vitali-Flynn's answer

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† was, "Oh, it could be computer error or

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† something else."

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† Well, computers don't make mistakes,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† people do, and I can attest to these

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† mistakes, I got one to my house for a Marian

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Gomez.† I have lived in my house for

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† 20 years and there has never been a Gomez

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† living there, and I never got that pill

 

†††††††††† 10†††††† †††††††under Mr. McDowell either, so I think

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† something has got to could be done here, and

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† I just think it just shows how improper it's

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† being run by -- the one request Mrs. Vitali

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† was asked last week, last year when she was

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† here before council, someone asked her a

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† question and she said it's none of her

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††††††† †business.† Well, that tells you what kind of

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† business person she is.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† Finally, Mrs. Fanucci, Mr. Jackowitz

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† stole some of my thunder, but I have here

 

††††† †††††21††††††††††††† three copies of unpaid bills, of unpaid

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† parking tickets, but what he neglected to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† say was the 15 parking tickets that you had

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† taken care of.† How do I go about that if I

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† get a parking ticket?


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 66

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: -- taken care of this,

 

††††††††††† 2††††††† ††††††Les.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: They were dismissed.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Well, I didn't have

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† anything --

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: I didn't want to bring

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† out the 15 pieces of paper, so it's public

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† record, and they were dismissed.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: And I saw it, and as

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† explained to you what wasn't -- that wasn't

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† me.† It was my husband at the time.† I mean,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† I don't know what you want me to say.† It

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† was in 2000.

 

†††††††††† 14†††††† †††††††††††††††MR. SPINDLER: Well, I guess your

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† name was on there.† I saw your name on

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† there.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Yeah, well, the cars

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† were under both of our names, but what I'm

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† saying is that I certainly wasn't trying to,

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† you know, cheat the city --

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: I mean, I can connect

 

†† ††††††††22††††††††††††† the dots.† You do everything the mayor says,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† the mayor's solicitor was Rob Farrell, Rob

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Farrell's wife is the one that dismissed all

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† your tickets.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 67

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Is that really what

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† happened, Les?† Because I would love to take

 

††††††††††† 3†††††† †††††††that -- is that what you are going on record

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† saying right now?

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: It's public --

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Okay, because are you

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† stating that right now?

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: It's public record.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Are you going on the

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† record as stating that as actual the truth.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: It's public record.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Is that what you are

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† stating?

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: I'm stating that it's

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† public record.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Are you stating

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† personally, you just connected the dots.† I

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† don't --

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† ††††††††MR. SPINDLER: I'm stating it's

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† public record.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I would love, love, to

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† take this up further.† I will take this as

 

†††††††††† 23†††††††† †††††far as I can.† Thank you, Les.† Because I

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† didn't do that.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: Next thing, Southern


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 68

 

 

††††† ††††††1††††††††††††† Union, we are promised to have the building

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† filled by the end of the summer and where is

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Merrill Lynch?† Mr. Donnelly, said Merrill

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Lynch is going in there, does anybody know

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† where Merrill Lynch is?† It's another white

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† elephant.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: It's his building.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: Next thing, North

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Scranton Junior High School, a speaker asked

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† last week where is the money going, that's

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† what I would like to now.† A year or so ago

 

†† ††††††††12††††††††††††† the governor was here with a big check, does

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† anybody know where that money went to.† Why

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† isn't anything being done with that school?

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: We have asked.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. SPINDLER: What's the answer?

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I got a letter on that

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† last week from Goodwill Industries.

 

†††††††††† 19†††† †††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: He answered us last

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† week and Mrs. Evans read the whole

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† description of what was going to happen.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: It's starting.† It's

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† underway.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Maybe you didn't hear it


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††69

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† because the television was so low.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: You can get it from

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Mrs. Garvey, she'll have a copy for you.

 

††††††††††† 4†††††††††††††††† †††††MR. SPINDLER: Okay, thank you.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: But he did answer us.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Any other speakers?

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. ROYCE: Good evening.† Bernie

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Royce, West Scranton.† Growing up my

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† step-father also said that too many people

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† took the architecture of Scranton for

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† granted.† I recently had a friend visit

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Scranton.† Dan is a district chief of

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Orlando Fire Department, one of the top

 

†††††††††† 15†††††††††† †††ranked fire departments in the country.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Overall, he found Scranton beautiful.† Dan

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† was truly amazed by the architecture, but he

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† also found the history of Scranton beautiful

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† as well as we drove through Northeastern

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Pennsylvania.† He was particularly impressed

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† by the importance Northeastern Pennsylvania

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††† ††††had in America's labor movement.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† The Latimer of 1897 in Hazleton was

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† the turning point for labor.† We have a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† monument to Don Mitchell from the Anthracite


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 70

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Coal strike in 1902 at our courthouse.† Our

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† mayor, Terrence Powley, was a leader of the

 

††††††††††† 3†††††††††† †††nights of labor.† The Avondale mine disaster

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† lead to the first occupational safety laws

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† in our country.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† As I pointed out these places to him

 

†††††††††† †7††††††††††††† as we were driving through, Dan was truly

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† impressed at the area's impact on labor law

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† and history.† Growing up with this history

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† all around us, it is also easy to take this

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† for granted.† I believe too many us have.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Currently we have a Bishop who won't

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† recognize unions.† We have a mayor who

 

†††††††††† 14†††††††† †††††wishes to destroy this city's labor legacy.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† Like most of us, my ancestors were

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† coal miners.† My great, great-grandfather

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† died in Scranton's mines.† His body was left

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† on his family's doorstep.† My family ensured

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† that I had appreciation for the labor's

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† battles that were won for us by our

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† ancestors.† Perhaps Chris Doherty's family

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† did not.† In this failure, they failed him.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Sadly, they also failed all of Scranton.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 25†††††††††††† †††††††††MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 71

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MILLER: Good evening, Council.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† Doug Miller, Scranton.† Regarding 5-C, I

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† certainly would ask council tonight to vote

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† against this legislation.† We want to vote

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† and give $1 million of green grant or

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† whatever you want to call it to bail

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† somebody else out again.† You know, I

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† believe the owners of the Connell building

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† have other properties that are worth

 

†††††††††† 10†††† †††††††††millions, so I truly think they can handle

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† it themselves.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† You know, while we were on the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† subject of grants, I'm going to ask council

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† tonight and put some pressure on you.† You

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† know, rather there going and squander grant

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† money on the Connell building or anybody

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† else, would council support funding for the

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† State School of the Deaf?† You know, we

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† heard recently that funding was going to

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† come to an end?† Would this council support

 

†††††††††† 21†††† †††††††††funding fr the State School for the Deaf?

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† You know, this is an issue that I think

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† council needs to look an at because it's a

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† very important issue.† You know, this is

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† children, education, it's all important


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 72

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† stuff.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† You know, we could go onto the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† churches, and I think this issue was raised

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† before.† You know, we have a Bishop who is

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† going around closing churches left and

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† right, and you know we have families who

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† have been attending these churches for their

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† whole lives, and I would ask council to look

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† out there.† There is grant money available.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† I mean, we could find a million for the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Connell building again and let's save some

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† of these churches.† You know, I think it's

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† our responsibility to do that.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† You know, moving onto Channel 61,

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† ECTV.† I'm certainly disappointed in the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† lack of programming, you know, the poor

 

††††††††† †17††††††††††††† audio, people constantly having a hard time

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† with the station.† I certainly don't believe

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† they are delivering on their process that

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† they had in their proposal that they were

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† going to provide all of this educational

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† programming and government meetings and so

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† forth, you haven't seen it.† I mean, you

 

†††††††††† 24 †††††††††††††turn it on we have Bugs Bunny, you know,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† what's next the Lion King?† I mean, we might


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 73

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† as well call it the Disney channel, you

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† know, and I think it was Commissioner

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† O'Brien who stated last week that if they

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† don't get their act together they are going

 

††††††††††† 5† ††††††††††††to start pulling funding and I think the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† same needs to be said here on council, that

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† if this continues we need to put a hold on

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† the funding here.

 

†††† †††††††9††††††††††††††††††††† A few issues that I have raised in

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† the past.† You know, we look at the impact

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† fee that I brought up on KOZ's and

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† nonprofits or any other development that

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† wants to come into this city.† I believe the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† city is losing out on millions, as I have

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† said, and I believe it's time for once this

 

†††††††††† 16 †††††††††††††administration becomes creative rather than

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† putting the burden on the taxpayers as

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† always.† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Miller.

 

††† †††††††20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Good evening, Council.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† My name is Michael Riley.† I'm a citizen and

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† a taxpayer and a resident of Lackawanna

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† County.† I'm here to give report cards

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† tonight to all of you sitting here.† As a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† retired educator, my credentials are as


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 74

 

 

†††††† †††††1††††††††††††† follows:† I have a superintendent

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† certificate, a supervisor's certificate, a

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† teacher's certificate and I would just like

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† to give some grades to all of the people

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† sitting up there tonight.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† Mr. Minora, I would like to give you

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† a D-minus and ask you to study the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† constitution and the Bill of Rights.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† Moving onto Mrs. Fanucci, I remember

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† your very first council meeting, do you?

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† I certainly do.

 

†††††††††† 12†† †††††††††††††††††††MR. RILEY: When you couldn't

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† remember how you voted and you had to have a

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† recount and you were like --

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† That wasn't my first

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† council meeting.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: I believe it was.† I

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† believe you were like a deer in the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† headlights.† You had no clue of what you

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† were doing.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: The good thing is I

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† moved on.† I lived and I learn, baby.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† You know, I'm going to

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† object --

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: It's been all down here


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 75

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† every since.

 

††††††††††† 2††††† ††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI:† -- for you violating

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† the Rules of the Council.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: And I'm coming back, you

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† have a grade coming as well, ma'am, if I may

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† continue.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Thank you very much.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Mr. Courtright, you

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† started out well, but when Mrs. Gatelli ran

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† for city council you sided with her and she

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† became council president and that is

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† something that the voters really will not

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† forgive you for.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† Mr. McGoff, you came before the

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† council at your very first, I would like

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† your attention, sir, and not talking as --

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† are you listening to me?† I hope so.† When

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† you promised the people that you would be

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† your own person and not be the mayor's mouth

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† piece and what happened is you are a liar.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† All of this is --

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me?

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: -- my opinion only.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: No, no. That's not an

 

†††† ††††††25††††††††††††† opinion, that's an accusation.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 76

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY:† No, it's not.† It's my

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† opinion that you --

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Yes, it is, and as an

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† educator you should know the difference.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: And I am asking you that

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† you should know that you failed to live up

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† to what you said you would do.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli--

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Did that mean I got an

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† "F"?

 

††† †††††††11††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: "F" minus.† Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† Gatelli--

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Why aren't you doing

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Mrs. Evans?

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Excuse me, it's my time.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I'm waiting for Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Evans' grade.† We all got one.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Mrs. Gatelli, I remember

 

†††††††††† 19† ††††††††††††being at the old Scranton Technical High

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† School in the audience one evening when Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Evans was on the school board and you were

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† being considered for a position as school

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† nurse, you weren't successful that night and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† the ire and the angst that you have

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† continued to hold --


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††77

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Really?

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: In my opinion only, if

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† you really are concerned about the people of

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Scranton you would resign now and don't ever

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† run for office again.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Thank you very much.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Janet, continue to do

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† what you are doing.† You get an "A" plus.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Oh, we knew that was

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† coming.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Your campaign

 

††††† †††††12††††††††††††† committee, I guess.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: Oh, and --

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: No, you left the podium.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† Thank you.† Any other speakers?

 

†††††††††† 16† ††††††††††††††††††††MR. RILEY: And Mr. Dudek was

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† ignorant before --

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.† You are

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† finished.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: He referred to deaf and

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† dumb.† They are hearing impaired.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: It's the Scranton School

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† for the Deaf.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. RILEY: For the hearing impaired,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† not the deaf and dumb as he called them.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 78

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Shame on you.

 

††††††††††† 2†††††††††††††††† †††††MR. MCGOFF:† Any other speakers?

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Mrs. Krake?

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† My name is Nancy Krake.† I have a few

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† remarks.† First, we still have the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† delinquent city real estate in the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Treasurer's Office until April 1, which I'd

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† advise everyone to pay with us.† It's much

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† cheaper than going to NCC.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† I would also like everyone to visit

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† our new website that is up, the citizens of

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Scranton, it's called www.saveScranton.com.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† And I would like to say that the two

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† inspectors that are filling the new jobs

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† that were created, those jobs were posted

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† and bid and we currently have two very

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† qualified people that have a lot of time

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† with the city, they actually bid into those

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† jobs, so we are lucky to have those ladies

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† there.† It will leave openings eventually

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† and the mayor will fill them, but we are

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† very lucky to have them.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† I would also like to say that

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Attorney Minora has been paying his parking


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 79

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† tickets.† I have actually waited on him

 

††††††††††† 2††† ††††††††††today, so he is doing well there.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Mrs. Krake, I just

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† have to ask you a question, was there ever a

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† time when the Treasurer's Office was allowed

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† to waive fees, delinquent fees?

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. KRAKE:† The Treasurer's Office

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† has always waived interest or penalty.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Never the value of the tax.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Who made that

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† determination?

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. KRAKE: In my experience having

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† been there under three different treasurers,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† it has also been at the discretion of the

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† treasurer.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. KRAKE: You're welcome.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: I'm sorry to interrupt

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† you, but I did want to --

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. KRAKE: I may need that time in

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† the end, so if you could turn back the clock

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† four years would you still have made the

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† same political choices you did then?† Would

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† you have voted for Bush's second term, the

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† term that drove this country into an


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 80

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† economic crisis?

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† Would you have voted for Governor

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Rendell's second term?† His relentless

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† crusade to downsize and privatize state

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† services has managed to create a huge state

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† deficit and his unconscionable budget cut to

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Scranton State School for the Hearing

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Impaired?

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† If you knew then what you know now

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† would you have voted Mayor Doherty in for a

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† second term?† Would you have a voted for

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† 27 percent increase in your house taxes

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† while the city's wage, current and

 

†††††††††† 14††††† ††††††††delinquent tax remain uncollected for eight

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† years?† Would you have voted for four

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† million plus in administrative raises and

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† jobs while police and fire have no increase

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† for eight years?† Would you have voted for

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† over 200 million in long-term debt that our

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† grandchildren will be paying for?† Do you

 

†††††††††† 21†††††††††† †††know what you got for that money?† Does

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† anyone feel they are better off today having

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† voted Mayor Doherty in a second term?

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† A lot of the folks who are better

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† off, the consultants, the lawyers,


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 81

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† 60 percent of his campaign contributors that

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† don't even live in Scranton they are better

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† off.† And, by the way, they can't vote here,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† we can.† In seven weeks you will be able to

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† correct that mistake, the Doherty mistake,

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† and vote all of the people out who've

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† recklessly spent your money and drove this

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† city into debt.† Thank you.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI:† Good evening, city

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† council.† My name is Dave Gervasi, I'm a

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† taxpayer, homeowner and member of the fire

 

†††††††††† 13† ††††††††††††department.† I just want to get back to the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† beginning when we started tonight and

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† Mr. Martin was up here, it seemed like a lot

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† of the questions were what happened with

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† that.† I was there during the whole time

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† while I was on the negotiating team and I

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† got to give credit where credit is due.

 

†††††††††† 20†††††††††††† †Mary Gardier Patterson she was very, very

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† courteous, very, very professional and I

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† think she believed she had the authority to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† negotiate that contract.

 

††††††††† †24††††††††††††††††††††† Actually, there was two points in

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† the two days where I actually grabbed her


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 82

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† when things weren't looking too good and I

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† said -- frankly, I did a selfish thing, I

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† just happened to be on vacation for that

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† week, and I was spending my time at the

 

†††††††††† †5††††††††††††† University and things weren't going so well

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† at times, and I asked her straight up in the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† hallway, I said, "Is this going anywhere or

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† are we just wasting our time again?† This is

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† getting ridiculous at points."

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† And she said, "No."

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† She said, "I have been talking to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† the mayor."

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† Each component after we negotiated

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† it she was talking to the mayor and then a

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† little while later at one brief break that

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† we had our attorney told us that he was

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† informed that they were you talking to

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† people from DCED.† So basically when it was

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† all done we shook hands, we had a tentative

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† agreement and, you know, what happened later

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† is what happened, so I just wanted to

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† clarify that, that I think that negotiating

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† team especially, Mrs. Patterson, they really

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† tried and I think they were either mislead

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† or just, you know, lead to believe that they


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††83

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† did have the authority to negotiate and make

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† those decisions and everybody was

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† disappointed afterwards, so I just wanted to

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† clarify that, and if there is any questions

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† you guys have with my remaining three

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† minutes on any of those particulars I would

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† be happy to answer your questions on the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† firefighter's side, but that's where we are

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† at this point.† No questions?† No?

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† Just closing, Mrs. Fanucci, I'm not

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† picking on you, please, I'm not trying to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† start an argument, but last week when you

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† mentioned I was amusing you, honest to God,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† I was not saying anything about -- actually

 

†††††† ††††15††††††††††††† I wasn't paying attention to what you were

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† saying.† I was having a conversation --

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: That was my point,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Dave.† My point is like we are up here and

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† you are out there giggling and having a

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† conversation and, you know, it's not -- it's

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† just not right.† So that's why I said that.

 

†††††††††† 22 †††††††††††††I was --

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI: Just so you know, I

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† wasn't making fun of you.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Oh, I know.† I said I'm


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††84

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† glad I'm amusing.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI: The conversation had

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† nothing to do with you.

 

††††††††††† 4†††††††††††††††† †††††MS. FANUCCI: I'm glad I'm amusing.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI: Well, you weren't

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† amusing me because I wasn't paying

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† attention.† If that bothered you --

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† I was being sarcastic.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† I was being sarcastic.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI:† I wasn't talking about

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† you.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††† ††††MS. FANUCCI: It's okay.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI:† I mean, a lot of

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† people have called me this week.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I'm not one of the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††† ††††conspiracy theories.† It's okay.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI: Okay.† All I'm saying

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† is that a lot of people called me that night

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† and said, "What did you do to Mrs. Fanucci?"

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† And I said, "I don't know."

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Well, that's -- you

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† just explained it.† You explained it well.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. GERVASI:† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gervasi.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Anyone else?† Mrs. Evans?


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 85

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††† ††††††††††††††MS. EVANS: Good evening.† The final

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† 2008 tax collections from the Scranton Tax

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Office were received by city council's

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† office on Friday, February 14 -- or 13, I

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† should say.† A comparison to 2007 tax

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† collections was also included.† The results

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† are as follows:

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† The real estate final 2007,

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† $13,809,153.21.† Final 2008, $13,709,768.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† 89 for a decrease of over $99,000.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† The earned income tax or wage tax,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† the final amount for 2007 $19,218,06.58 and

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† the final for 2008, $22,3086,143 for an

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† increase of $3,168,082.49 and in terms of

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the percentages a 16.48 percent increase.

 

†††† ††††††16††††††††††††††††††††† The EMS/OPT/LST tax which is now the

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† LST, local services tax, the final for 2007,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† $2,155,287.† The final for 2008, $1,340,021,

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† a decrease of $815,266 or in percentages a

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† 37.8 percent decrease.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† The business privilege and

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† mercantile tax, final for 2007, $1,773,938.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† The final for 2008, $1,850,954.81 for an

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† increase of $77.016, and translated into

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† percentages that is 4.34 percent.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 86

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† In addition, Mr. McGovern states

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† that the auditors are putting their final

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† touches on their report, however, they

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† believe a meeting with the Pennsylvania

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† Treasury Auditors must occur before the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† report can be finalized.† Once it is

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† finalized, Marilyn, that would be

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††† ††Mrs. Vitali, will host a meeting with all of

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† the state holders and the auditors before it

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† is released.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† Now, on a tax-related note, last

 

†††††††††† 12††† ††††††††††week council received correspondence from an

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Attorney Christopher P. Cullen requesting

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† the approval by official action of a

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† proposed motion and the forwarding of a copy

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† of the approved motion to six state

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† representatives, state Senator Robert Mellow

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† and the Board of Commissioners of Lackawanna

 

†††††††††† 19†††††††††† †††County.† The motion supports and requests

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† that the General Assembly of Pennsylvania

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† amend sections of the Home Rule Charter and

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† optional plans law to empower the Home Rule

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Municipality to require referendum approval

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† by it's qualified electors of an annual

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† millage rate as levied by it's governing


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††87

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† body that is in excess of 5 percent of the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† preceding year's rate of millage in order to

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† make effective the levy millage rate in a

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† manner similar in concept and effect to the

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† requirements set forth at Section 302-C of

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† the Home Rule Charter of Lackawanna County.

 

††††††††††† 7††††† ††††††††335 Pennsylvania Code Section 1.3-302.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† Now, simply, currently there are no

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† protections available that give property

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† owners in Lackawanna County, the City of

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Scranton and the City of Carbondale the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† opportunity to contest excessive tax rates

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† other than exercising their right at the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† voting pole every four years, so Lackawanna

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† County may enact without any limitations

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† whatsoever an excessive rate of taxation and

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† impose excessive taxation upon taxpayers.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† This motion simply supports a state

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† amendment of the Home Rule Charter law in

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† order to safeguard and protect taxpayers

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† from excessive taxes.† It doesn't incur any

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† expense, it doesn't require special action,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† and it does not involve city council in a

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† lawsuit as was confirmed to me by Attorney

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Cullen yesterday.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 88

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† In addition, this motion does not

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† effect Scranton's Home Rule Charter since it

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† has no language addressing tax rates.† It

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† will apply to Lackawanna County.† I'm

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† certain we all vividly remember the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† 48 percent tax increase of 2005 that was

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† levied by the county, and I believe that as

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† elected officials we have the duty and

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† responsibility to seriously consider this

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† motion and to protect our Scranton residents

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† who are also county residents from excessive

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† increases in the future.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† Therefore, I move to approve and

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† support the proposed motion in support of

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† amending Section 2962 (b) of the Home Rule

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Charter and optional plans law, 53

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††††† †††Pennsylvania CSA Section 2962 (b) to prevent

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† or eliminate the enactment and imposition of

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† an excessive millage rate, specifically in

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† excess of 5 percent of the presiding years

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† rate of millage by the governing body of the

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Home Rule Charter Municipality.† Such

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† amending legislation will be prepared and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††† ††introduced by State Representative Kevin

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Murphy.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 89

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll second that.

 

††††††††††† 2††††† ††††††††††††††††MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question, I

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† would just ask if Mr. Minora could take a

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† look at that this week and just give me his

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† opinion on it to make sure that everything

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† remains proper.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MINORA: Okay.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I might add though, I

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† asked Attorney Cullen when I spoke to him

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† yesterday if any of my colleagues had any

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† reservations about interceding on behalf of

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† the taxpayers in this manner, would he be

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† available to come to a caucus to answer any

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† of the questions and he indicated that, yes,

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† he would.

 

†††††††††† 17†††††††††††††††††† †††MS. FANUCCI: That's great.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: So maybe we could have

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† him come in next week.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Absolutely.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††† ††††MR. MCGOFF: With that in mind, I

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† would move to table this motion until after

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† investigation or after we look into it and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† perhaps a caucus with Attorney Cullen.† So I

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† move to table Mrs. Evans' motion.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 90

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I'll second that.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: On the motion to table,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† anyone on the question?† All in favor

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† signify by saying aye.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Aye.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Aye.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Aye.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Aye.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Aye.† Opposed?† The

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† ayes have it and so moved.† Thank you, Mrs.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Evans.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Now, with regard to the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† $3 million loan included in tonight's agenda

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† for it's second reading, I spoke to

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† Mr. Boscov and Mr. Zurney, Boscov's

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† controller during the week and also

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† corresponded by e-mail to seek answers to my

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† questions.† I learned the following

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† information from Mr. Boscov and Mr. Zurney.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† There are two Section 108 loans for

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Boscov's.† The original loan in 1991 was for

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† the initial construction of the mall and

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† matures in August 2011.† This is the loan on

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† which the city makes payments.† In

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† June 2003, an additional three million was


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 91

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† to be borrowed as a Section 108 loan, but

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† was not closed on until 2004.† It matures

 

†† †††††††††3††††††††††††† August 1, 2024.† According to an e-mail from

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Mr. Zurney, Boscov's controller, he received

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† a schedule presumably from one of Mr.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Mitchell's OECD predecessors which starts in

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† 2003 when Scranton Mall Company was

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† bifurcated into two entities, Steamtown Mall

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Partners, LP, which is the mall, and the

 

††††††††† †10††††††††††††† Scranton Mall Associates which would be his

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† office buildings.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† He presumes in the refinancing of

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† the PSERS loan to a UBS bond issue there

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† were agreements and concessions made to keep

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the company viable.† He has not found any

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† documents in the binders to explain the

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† 20 percent paid by the city, but will

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† continue to search.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† At the same time Mr. Mitchell,

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Scranton's director of finance and

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† compliance for OECD cannot seem to find

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† information on why the city pays a

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† 20 percent portion of the Section 108 loan

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† in his two binders.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† Now, I also received a schedule of


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 92

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Section 108 loan payments for both the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† 80 percent Scranton Mall share and the

 

††††† ††††††3††††††††††††† 20 percent City of Scranton's share which

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† ends August 1, 2011, for a total payment of

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† $7,679,624.39.† The city's 20 percent is a

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† total payment of $1,595,924.88 from 2003

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† through 2011, for both principle and

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† interest.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† In addition, Mr. Boscov explained

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† that the Steamtown Mall cannot be used as

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† collateral for this third loan.† Since the

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† 108 loans are already in second position and

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† held by the City of Scranton, it will not be

 

††††††††† †14††††††††††††† possible to add them all as collateral to

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the third loan until both prior Section 108

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† loans are paid off.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† Now, according to Mr. Mitchell from

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† OECD, the newest Section 108 loan to

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Boscov's is for 20 years at $170,000 per

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† year.† Both Mr. Siegle and Mr. Boscov have

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† stated that Boscov's alone will be

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† responsible for payments on this new loan.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† Further, both the Steamtown Mall

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† Partners and Scranton Mall Associates are

 

†††††††††† 25†† †††††††††††current on their real estate and mercantile


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 93

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† taxes according to Mr. Zurney, Boscov's

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† controller.

 

†††† †††††††3††††††††††††††††††††† Now, I had asked in response to a

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† citizens' request last week about

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† specifically the mercantile tax and a letter

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† was sent to Mrs. Vitale requesting that

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† information in the Scranton Tax Office.† She

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† responded that on the advice of her

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† solicitor she would not release that

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† information without a waiver from

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Mr. Boscov, and I do understand that

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† currently a waiver had been sought and not

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† found, and I believe that Mr. Boscov will be

 

†††† ††††††14††††††††††††† provided with such a waiver, but it really

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† is unnecessary in that I do know the amount

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† of the mercantile taxes that were paid in

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† 2008.

 

††††† †††††18††††††††††††††††††††† The annual real estate and

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† mercantile taxes paid to the city and school

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† district, which I'm told they have been

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† paying for the last three or four years well

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† exceeds the amount paid annually by the city

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† on the Section 108 loan and, in fact, is

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† very close to the dollar amount the city

 

†††††††††† 25†† †††††††††††will pay on that particular Section 108 loan


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 94

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† for the years 2003 through 2011.† And I am

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† most grateful to Mr. Boscov and Mr. Zurney

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† for their cooperation in this matter.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† Next, I wish to report to citizens

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† on their request and questions:† First,

 

††††††††††† 6† ††††††††††††Mr. Bob Fiffer from Municipal Energy

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Managers said that Mr. Brazil DPW was

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† notified about the Spruce Street Complex

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† lights that have been out, and that a call

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† was put into Pennsylvania One.† Since it is

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† an underground problem DPW is going to do

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† the digging as to not to hire a

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† subcontractor.† It should take approximately

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† 10 to 12 days to complete barring any

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† weather problems.† I thank the East Mountain

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† residents who brought this problem to my

 

†††††† ††††17††††††††††††† attention.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† Also, at last week's meeting there

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† was a request to hear the projects proposed

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† by council for inclusion in the federal

 

†††† ††††††21††††††††††††† stimulus package grants, and since the mayor

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† apparently had earmarked a new South Side

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† library for these funds I asked council to

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† compile a list of city projects which could

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† be funded as well, and Mr. McGoff read that


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 95

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† list earlier.

 

††††††††††† 2†††††††††† †††††††††††Now, I am aware that the Sewer

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Authority has applied for a $20 million

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† state grant, but it seems to require an

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† additional $100 million for necessary

 

†† †††††††††6††††††††††††† upgrades to the antiquated system.† The

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Scranton Sewer Authority may be able to

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† apply for a stimulus grant itself, but if it

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† can't I believe the city should pursue

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† funding to prevent the ratepayers of the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Scranton and Dunmore from incurring very

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† significant sewer rate increases in the

 

†††††††††† 13††††† ††††††††future.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† The Spruce Street Complex lighting

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† problems that were read earlier will be

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† removed from that list because, of course,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††† ††††††they are currently being addressed.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† Now, I know that Mayor Doherty and

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Mrs. Gatelli supported a new library in

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† South Side.† I don't know where my other

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† colleagues stand on the issue and I can only

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† speak for myself, I do not oppose a second

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† main library in South Scranton, but now is

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† not the time.† In the midst of this

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† recessions we should address the problems in


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 96

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† all city neighborhoods which have burdened

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† the residents for years and effected their

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† daily lives.† Stimulus grants should be used

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† for the benefit of the people and their

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† priorities, not the mayor's, and that's why

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† the bulk of those proposals had come from me

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† and focused on the neighborhoods and the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† problems that I have seen and heard over the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† last five years.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† Now, to answer some questions posed

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† by a speaker last week, I have now learned

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† that the city pays variable dollar amounts

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† on principle and interest on the Section 108

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† loan for Boscov's.† For example, in 2008 it

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† paid $179,581.50, and in 2011 the city will

 

†††††††††† 16 †††††††††††††pay $184,536.† We were likely financially

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† upside down prior to tax payments by

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† Steamtown Mall Partners.† Currently we do

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† not appear to be.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† Mr. Boscov stated at last week's

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† meeting that he owns the Lace Works, so in

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† response to a speaker's question I asked for

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† information about the Lace Works.† To date,

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† 125,000 was allocated to artist space for

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† this building.† $236 was spent in 2006 for


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 97

 

 

††† ††††††††1††††††††††††† soft costs for the project.† The remaining

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† $124,763 remains in OECD's financial system.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† In addition, the amount of $62,510

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† from a 2005 activity entitled, "Demolition

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† of former Scranton Lace building" still

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† remains in OECD's financial system.† This

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† grant was originally to be used in

 

††††††††††† 8† ††††††††††††conjunction with Lackawanna College.† I do

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† not believe that Scranton receives any

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† percentage of interest for Section 108

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† loans, and also according to Mr. Mitchell

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† all of OECD loans that are currently pledged

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† for Boscov's, that is for this third Section

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† 108 loan, will be paid back simultaneously

 

†††††††††† 15††††††† ††††††on a bi-annual payment schedule determined

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† by HUD, and Boscov's is an anchor of the

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Steamtown Mall.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† However, without other profitable

 

†††††††††† 19† ††††††††††††stores occupying the mall it will cease to

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† be a mall.† I believe that Boscov's and it's

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† tenants of the mall are dependent upon one

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† another for success.† And I hope that

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† answers all of the gentleman's questions

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† regarding Boscov's and the Lace Works.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† And finally just a few citizens'


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††98

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† requests:† Please fill potholes in the 15,

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† 16 and 1700 blocks of Dickson Avenue, at the

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† corner of Olive Street at North Washington

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Avenue clean the catch basins, and council

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† is requesting a timetable for completion of

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† flood work on the Albright Avenue bridge and

 

††††††††††† 7† ††††††††††††surrounding areas.† Residents report that no

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† work has been observed in several months,

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† and that's it.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I just have a few

 

†††††††† ††11††††††††††††† things, Mr. McGoff.† First of all, I also am

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† not in favor of the stimulus money going to

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† the library in South Scranton.† I said that

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† several weeks ago so you can take that off

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† your list.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: My list of what?

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, you said I was in

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† favor of the stimulus money going to the

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† library in South Scranton.† You said it last

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† week or the week before that, yes, I'm in

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† favor of the library, but I'm not in favor

 

††††††† †††22††††††††††††† of using the stimulus money to go after

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† private money and grants for the library so

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† I just wanted to make that correction.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† I would also like to say that I


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 99

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† thought that Mr. Quinn was not accurate in

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† his statements concerning the new inspectors

 

††††††† ††††3††††††††††††† in LIPS.† I know Carol has been there for

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† many years and so has Patty.† Patty has

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† helped many times as a health inspector with

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† problems that we have had throughout the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† neighborhoods and does an excellent job and

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Carol will surely do the same thing also.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† They are union jobs.† They are qualified for

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† the positions, and I don't want the public

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† to think that someone in those positions

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† that aren't qualified.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† Underwriters is a whole different

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† topic.† He is mixing apples and oranges and

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† I don't want the property owners and the

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† taxpayers to think that these people are

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† working there, coming to their homes and

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† they are not qualified.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† The lights on the Scranton

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† Expressway at Keyser Avenue have been fixed.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† And I talked to Attorney McGovern, I believe

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† it was last Thursday, and I also talked to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Mrs. Flynn this afternoon, and the audit is

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† pretty well finished.† They have to present

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† it to the Treasury Department first and it


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 100

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† shouldn't be a matter of much longer before

 

††††††††††† 2††† ††††††††††we get the results, and I'll keep you

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† informed on that.† And that's all I have,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Mr. McGoff.† Thank you.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.† Mrs.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† Fanucci.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: I wanted to answer

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Mrs. Schumacher's questions about the grant

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† for Scranton Tomorrow.† All of the list that

 

††††††††† †10††††††††††††† you read is included in the application

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† process.† They have to meet all of those

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† requirements to get the grant, as you have

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† said.† That does not have to do with us.† We

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† do not get the paperwork until they approve

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† --† the grant is approved through the state.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Like they already had -- meet all of the

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† requirements for the state, so you are

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† asking for something that has already been

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† done, but it's not on our level, it's the

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† state level, so all of those questions have

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† been answered and obviously have cleared

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† through the state and they said it was okay

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† for them to go to this level, so I wanted to

 

†††††††††† 24††† ††††††††††clarify that.† You are asking for us to do

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† work that is not, you know, a part of our


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 101

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† structure here, you know, so it has already

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† been done.† Obviously it hasn't reached

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† that.† It doesn't come here until they

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† qualify for the state, so I wanted to answer

 

††††††††††† 5† ††††††††††††that question.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† Also, I was going through the -- you

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† know, every week Mrs. Krake gets up and

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† talks about NCC and our fees that we impose

 

†††††† †††††9††††††††††††† and the bad -- how people they are losing

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† their homes and what a bad situation it was,

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† so I did some of my own research on this,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† and what I found was that I'm extremely

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† happy with my NCC vote and will stay happy

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† with my vote.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† Sometimes people have ulterior

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† motives and sometimes they don't, but what I

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† found out is there is, you know, someone,

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† and I'll come right out here, someone who is

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† a website owner, director, you know, sues

 

††††† †††††20††††††††††††† the city on a regular basis, his taxes are

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† under his wife's name, and I never see

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† anybody come up with this research, which

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† amazes me, they owe us over $8,000 in taxes

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† since 2002; garbage fees since 2003, and --

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† yeah, they are not paying for any services


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 102

 

 

† ††††††††††1††††††††††††† since 2002.† They are not paying the fire

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† department.† They are not paying the police

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† officers.† They are not paying the garbage

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† collectors, but yet supposed to cover that

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† for them at the rest of the taxpayers' bill?

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† I'm supposed to pay for it, you are supposed

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† to pay it and everybody out there is

 

†††† †††††††8††††††††††††† supposed to pay for people who aren't paying

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† their taxes.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† I don't agree with it.† I don't

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† think it's fair.† I think that people work

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† very hard for their money and yet here is

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† someone who is praised almost in these

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† chambers, and let's go there, this is where

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† all of life happens, let's go here, and they

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† are not even paying the people who are

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† getting up and praising them.† It makes me

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† sick.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† So, yes, I'm very happy with my NCC

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† because at this rate I believe the legal

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† fees that we will get out of when finally

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† they do decide to make me pay one is two

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† dollars to the city we will get almost

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† $2,000 in legal fees from these people, and

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† with the slap in the face the fact that you


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††103

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† are paying for their lawsuits every week and

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† in the name of being a taxpayer in the city

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† I believe that this is a good deal.

 

†††††††††† †4††††††††††††††††††††† Do I believe it's a bad deal for

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† people who can't pay?† No.† I think you call

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† and you ask for help and you arrange help

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† and you make a payment plan, which is

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† something people should do all over the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† city, so in finding out that little bit of

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† information I have to say it was absolutely

 

†††††††††† 11†††††† †††††††disturbing, and not only typical, but very

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† showing of what we are doing and who we are

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† covering in the city and it's not all of the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† connected people, I guess. †And that is all

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† I have.† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Kay, I just have a

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† couple of letters here.† The 3,000 block of

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† Division Street is really far out there and

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† that road is in pretty bad shape.† The

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† residents are asking when they do start

 

†††††††††† 22†† †††††††††††paving if they could consider paving that.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† The road that I drive every day DPW fixed

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† them last year, it's Forest Glenn, it's on a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† really bad turn and the entire road, the


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 104

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† whole length of road now is just torn up.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† There is -- someday there is going to be a

 

†††††††††† †3††††††††††††† real bad accident I don't think we can wait

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† until the weather breaks.† If the DPW could

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† get up and take a look at it.† I could call

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† down and even show you specifically, it

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† can't wait.† It's something that has to be

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† fixed now, so if you could go up there and

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† take a look at that.

 

†††††††††† 10†††††††††††††††††††† †And this question I have been asked

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† quite a bit the last couple of weeks, and I

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† I'm not quite sure, other people are asking

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† me and I want 100 percent correct answers so

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† I'm asking if, Kay, we can look into this,

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the monies or money that ECTV has gotten to

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† repair the building that they are in now if,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† in fact, the building is sold and they are

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† made to move, I don't know if they are being

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† made to move or not, do we receive back any

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† of the monies that were paid for whatever

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† renovation?† I know there was money sent

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† through, what's that organization, East

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Scranton Business to the tune of 10,000 and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† I believe there is other monies.† So if, in

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† fact, they sell the building do we get any


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 105

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† money back because everybody is always a

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† little bit sarcastic.† They say to me,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† "Well, okay, I will just let ECTV move into

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† my house, I'll fix up my basement and then

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† I'll sell my house."

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† You know, so I'm not quite sure who

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† we go to for that answer.† Do we go to OECD?

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Can we start there and see.† If, in fact, I

 

†††††††† †††9††††††††††††† don't know maybe they will sell the building

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† and maybe the people will let them stay

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† there who are buying it, but can we find

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† out.

 

†††††††††† 13 †††††††††††††††††††††MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, while you

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† are doing that could we also request a list

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† of the officers and members of the East

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Scranton Business Association?

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Current and for 2007,

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† 2008.† And in addition to that, I do

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† understand or in the past anyway that the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† owner of that property has for lack of

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† better terms a nonprofit organization that

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† he oversees, and wanted to know if that

 

†††††††††† 24†††††† †††††††structure at, what is it, 933 Prescott?

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm not quite sure


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 106

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† of the address.

 

††††† ††††††2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: If that is part of that

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† nonprofit organization.† In other words, all

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† of the buildings that he owns that are

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† protected under 501-C-3.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yeah, I have no

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† problem with that, and I was never happy

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† with the way that money went through that

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† organization and to that gentleman, that

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† never sat well with me, and I'm assuming it

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† was legal because nobody has done anything

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† about it, but it just never set well with

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† me, you know, the money went to them and

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† they in turn turned it over to them.† I

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† don't want to use the term on the air what I

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† consider that, because I may get myself in

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† trouble, but I'm just not happy with how

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† that was done, so if we could start there

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† and I'll come in and we'll start with OECD

 

†††† ††††††20††††††††††††† and just see what becomes of the money if,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† in fact, the building is sold and if, in

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† fact, if they are made to move.† And that's

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† all I have.† Thank you.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Mr. Courtright.† Just very quickly a couple


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 107

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† of responses, first of all, on the Scranton

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† School for the Hearing Impaired, I know that

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† we are all concerned with that and while

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Mr. Dudek offers us some discussions for

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† things that we can do, alternative funding I

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† know is being sought at many levels and for

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† him to say that, you know, there are more

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† powerful people, I don't know of too many

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† more powerful people in the state that

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Senator Mellow and if he is unsuccessful in

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† searching out and finding alternatives to

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† this situation I don't know that there is

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† much more than we can do.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† Certainly I know we all support the

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† idea of keeping the school open, and we will

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† do whatever we can to support the efforts of

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† those who are probably in a bit stronger

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† position than we in searching out that

 

†††††††††† 19†††† †††††††††funding.† I don't think anyone wants that

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† school to close.† I don't think that the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† governor wants the school to close to be

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† honest, but I think that it was an attempt

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† to find alternative funding in others ways

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† other than through the state and hopefully

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† that can be done.


 

 

††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††108

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† Also, an interesting question on the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† timetable for the flood control project, I

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† think that perhaps that is something that we

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† should find out for the residents of lower

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† Greenridge and I will attempt to contact

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† someone at that office to see if there is an

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† update on the timetable for moving that

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† project forward.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† And the last thing, as far as

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† providing funding for keeping churches open,

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† certainly the Diocese of Scranton is a

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† separate entity and if we had found anything

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† over the course of the past couple of years,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† it is that trying to find alternatives

 

† †††††††††15††††††††††††† solutions to what the Bishop of the Diocese

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† of Scranton has decided falls usually on

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† very deaf ears, ask the people of Pittston

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† who try to keep schools open and other

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† places I know that even though they have

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† provided and will go also to the keeping the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† current Bishop Hannon building open as part

 

†††††† ††††22††††††††††††† of the Holy Cross School system.† There were

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† plans and everything sent to the Bishop and

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† they were simply returned without even being

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† considered, o, not only would our pleas fall


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 109

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† on deaf ears, I would think, but also we

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† actually have no authority to make those

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† pleas other than as private citizens, so

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† just so people out there aren't thinking

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† that we, you know, have some power to try

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† and keep churches and schools and Catholic

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† schools and churches open.† While many of

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† may have a vested interest in it, there is

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† little that we as -- there is nothing that

 

††† †††††††10††††††††††††† we as a council can do, maybe we as

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† individuals can do things, but just wanted

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† to make sure we understood that.† And that

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† is all I have.

 

†† ††††††††14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.† 5-B. FOR

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† INTRODUCTION - A RESOLUTION - ACCEPTING THE

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† RECOMMENDATION OF THE HISTORICAL

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† ARCHITECTURE REVIEW BOARD ("HARB") AND

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† APPROVING THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† FOR SCRANTON-CONNELL, LP, 700 SOUTH

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† HENDERSON ROAD, SUITE 300 B, KING OF

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† PRUSSIA, PENNSYLVANIA FOR FA«ADE MASONRY

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† REPAIR/RESTORATION; REPAIR OF LIMESTONE AND

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† TERRA COTTA BLOCK ELEMENTS; POINT BRICK;

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† REPLACEMENT OF MISSING BALUSTERS;

 

††† †††††††25††††††††††††† REPLACEMENT OF ROOF WITH EPDM SYSTEM;


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 110

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† REPAIR/REFINISH ALL EXISTING UPPER AND LOWER

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† SASHES AND SURROUNDING CASEWORK ON WINDOWS,

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† INCLUDING FABRICATION WHEN NECESSARY TO

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† MATCH ORIGINAL TO THE CONNELL BUILDING,

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† 119-129 NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE, SCRANTON

 

††††† ††††††6††††††††††††† PENNSYLVANIA.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† introduced into it's proper committee.

 

†††††††††† 10† ††††††††††††††††††††MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Second.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† On the question?† All

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

††††† †††††14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††† ††MR. MCGOFF:† Aye.† Opposed?† The

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† ayes have it and so moved.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

†††††††††† 22†† †††††††††††OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† AND APPLY FOR A GRANT THROUGH THE

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, DEPARTMENT OF

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED)


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 111

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† FOR A GROWING GREENER II MAIN STREET AND

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT GRANT IN THE AMOUNT

 

††††††††††† 3††††† ††††††††OF ONE MILLION DOLLARS ($1,000,000.00). IF

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† THE GRANT APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL, THE

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† CITY WILL ACCEPT THE GRANT FUNDS AND

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† DISTRIBUTE TO "SCRANTON-CONNELL, LP" AND ITS

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† GENERAL PARTNER "SCRANTON- CONNELL, GP, LLC"

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† FOR THE "PROJECT" TO BE NAMED AS "CONNELL

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† BUILDING ADAPTIVE RE-USE".

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: At time I'll entertain a

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† motion that Item 5-C be introduced into it's

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† proper committee.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† On the question,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Mr. McGoff, you know, I voted for funding of

 

†††††††††† 18†††† †††††††††this project in the past, I got to be honest

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† with you, I'm getting sick of giving this

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† place money.† Really.† I mean, I'm not

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† against the project, but I got to do a

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† little bit more thinking.† I'm going to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† vote, no, tonight.† I'm not against us

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† applying for grants, but maybe you can go to

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† another place.† I think they've gotten


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 112

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† enough so far and I'm going to rethink this

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† this week.

 

††††††††††† 3†††††††† †††††††††††††Also, I was told by some union

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† workers today that they don't believe the

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† company that's going to be doing the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† renovating uses union employees all the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† time, which they might pay the prevailing

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† rate, but they don't use union employees all

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† of the time and if that's the case I

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† certainly will be against it, but I'm going

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† to be voting, no, this evening.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Well, just for the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† record I talked to somebody in the Labor

 

†††††††††† 14†††††† †††††††Union, too, and they said to vote for it

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† because they said they are going to be all

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† union jobs.† So maybe they we could check

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† that out by next week.

 

†††††† ††††18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Absolutely because

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† it was just yesterday that I spoke to one

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† individual and then another individual

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† stopped me today and --

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Maybe we can discuss

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† that after.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: We'll look at it.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: And see who we spoke to


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 113

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† if we are getting mixed signals from people.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: It was the union

 

††††††††††† 3††††† ††††††††official.† I think maybe we can make a call

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† and ask.† I'd just like to, you know, if it

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† does go through I would like to see the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† local union people are getting the work.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Is this million dollars

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† though for -- going to go toward the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† restoration of the building to it's former

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† beauty, is that what this particular grant

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† would be used for?† I know I voted against

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† four million last month because I felt

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† Scranton's already building them a garage,

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† we didn't need to give them anymore, but I

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† am very concerned about architectural

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† preservation and if this developer/owner

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† isn't going to concern himself with that

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† unless a grant from the state is received to

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† enable him to provide for that, then I'd

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† like to see that happen.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††† ††††††††††MR. COURTRIGHT: Right.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† It's going to be

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† because the HARB is involved.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Right.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: And it keeps them


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 114

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† regular, that's what I like.† They can't

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† just do what they want.

 

††††††††††† 3†† †††††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI:† And they get tax

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† credits if it's historic in nature, they get

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† certain tax credits.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† So I will be voting to

 

††† ††††††††7††††††††††††† approve this for the reasons that I

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† mentioned.† And I do find n addition to that

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† this is a far more feasible, in my opinion,

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† dollar amount than January 20th's $4 million

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† gift.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: I say we should do all

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† we can to keep work here.† In this bad

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† economy it's hard to believe that we are

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† getting all of this work here to put some of

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† our people to work.† I mean, other

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† communities are just dying and I think we

 

†††††††††† 18†††††† †††††††are very fortunate that we have a lot of

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† activity and a lot of construction going on

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† when the economy is so bad.† So, you know,

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† that's the reason I'm be voting for this

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† project until it's completed, but we will

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† check that union stuff.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll make calls.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Why don't we all get


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 115

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† together on a project and apply for all of

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† these grants.† We would be wealthy.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: We have to do the

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† match.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: We could be the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† developer.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Sorry, I can't do the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† match.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: There is not always

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† matches to these so, you know, we could get

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† the loans and the grants.

 

† †††††††††12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† And we can't do it for

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† a year until we have off council for a year.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Correct, but in the five

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† years that I have been here I have never

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† seen so much money fly out.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I think it's great.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Out of OECD and out of,

 

†††††††††† 19†† †††††††††††you know, the state government and

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† sometimes, you know, you really have to look

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† at things and think wow, you know, no wonder

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† Pennsylvania is just about bankrupt, you

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† know, this huge deficit because there has

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† been this, you know, massive infusion of

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† money that, you know, I don't know if even


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††116

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† exists.† Where is it at?

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† And as someone mentioned earlier

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† tonight, if we are going to look at closing

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† state-owned schools in order to provide for

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† wealthy developers I don't know that we are

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† making the best choices all the time.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?† All those

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† in favor of introduction signify by saying

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† aye.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Aye.

 

††† †††††††12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Aye.† Opposed?

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: No.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so

 

†††† ††††††16††††††††††††† moved.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.† 6-A.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 61 -

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† 2009 - AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR

 

†††††† ††††20††††††††††††† AND OTHER APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS FOR THE CITY

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† OF SCRANTON TO MAKE APPLICATION TO THE

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† URBAN DEVELOPMENT ("HUD") FOR A SECTION 108

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† FEDERAL LOAN GUARANTEE IN THE AMOUNT OF

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† THREE MILLION DOLLARS ($3,000,000.00) AND IF


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 117

 

 

†††† †††††††1††††††††††††† SUCH APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL, TO ACCEPT

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† THE LOAN PROCEEDS AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† BOSCOV'S, INC. FOR AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT, AND

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† FURTHER TO AMEND THE CITY OF SCRANTON'S

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† CONSOLIDATED PLAN FILED IN 2004 AND THE

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† FISCAL YEAR 2009 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR THE

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT ("CDBG")

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† PROGRAM TO INCLUDE AND PERMIT SUCH SECTION

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† 108 APPLICATION AND LOAN ACTIVITIES.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† by title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† I move that item

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† 6-A pass reading by title.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: On the question?† All

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Aye.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Aye.† Opposed?† The

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† ayes have it and so moved.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.† 7-A. FOR

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES -

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 103, 2009 -


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 118

 

 

††††††††††† 1†††††† †††††††RE-APPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM LAZOR, 677 MARY

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† STREET, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18508, AS A

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE SCRANTON

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY FOR A TERM OF FIVE

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† (5) YEARS.† MR. LAZOR'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRES

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† ON MARCH 19, 2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† EXPIRE ON MARCH 19, 2014.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: As Chair for the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† Committee on Rules, I recommend final

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† passage of Item 7-A.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: On the question?† Roll

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† call, please.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Evans.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Gatelli.

 

††††† †††††17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI.† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Ms. Fanucci.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. McGoff.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Yes.† I hereby declare

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.

 

††††† †††††25††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 7-B.† FOR CONSIDERATION


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 119

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† RESOLUTION NO. 104, 2009 - RE-APPOINTMENT OF

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† PETER RIEBE, 1315 SANDERSON AVENUE,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18509, AS A MEMBER

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† OF THE BOARD OF THE SCRANTON REDEVELOPMENT

 

†† †††††††††6††††††††††††† AUTHORITY FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS.† MR.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† RIEBE'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 4,

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† 2009 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† FEBRUARY 4, 2014.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: As Chair for the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Committee on Rules, I recommend final

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† passage of Item 7-B.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

†† ††††††††14††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† On the question?† Roll

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† call, please.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Evans.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††† ††††††††††††††MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Gatelli.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI.† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Ms. Fanucci.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 22†††††††††††††††† †††††MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. McGoff.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Yes.† I hereby declare


 

 

†††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††120

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 7-C.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Mrs. Garvey, before this

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† is read could we table this until we meet

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† with, is it Ms. Collins again?

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† When were meeting with

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† Ms. Collins again?

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† Next week.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: I wasn't sure that we

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† are going to do that, I didn't know how the

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† vote was going to go on this, so I didn't

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† request that she be here next week.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Would it be possible to

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† do that so that some of the questions could

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† be --

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Well, what she said to

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† me on the phone was that they were all

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† answered in the application.† You can't

 

†††††††††† 19†††† †††††††††apply for this unless you do all of that

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† work.† So she said did say, and I don't know

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† understand what it is that I should tell you

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† that I didn't already tell the state.† They

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† wouldn't even give me -- I wouldn't be able

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† to pass to get to the state, you know,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† unless I answered all of the questions and


 

 

††††††††††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††121

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† met all of the qualifications for them.† So,

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† I mean, I can't imagine unless she wants to

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† show us the application, which I don't see

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† is necessary.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I think we have the

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† application.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Yeah.† I mean, to see

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† like every question that Mrs. Schumacher --

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: I personally think that

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† it's a good program and it's something that

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† would, you know, aid in the development

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† community development and I -- personally

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† I'm ready to vote on it as is.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† She has a motion on

 

††††††††† †15††††††††††††† the floor; right?

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: No, I didn't make it, I

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† just asked.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Oh, okay.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: It wasn't introduced.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I think it was.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: No, I didn't read it

 

†††††††††† 23†††††††††††† †yet.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† 7-C.† FOR CONSIDERATION

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 122

 

 

††††††††††† 1††† ††††††††††FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 105, 2009 -

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† MUNICIPAL-MAIN STREET ORGANIZATION

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† COOPERATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† SCRANTON ("MUNICIPALITY") AND SCRANTON

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† TOMORROW ("ORGANIZATION") IN ORDER TO

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE COMMONWEALTH OF

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† PENNSYLVANIA, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC AND

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ("DCED") TO ASSIST

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† WITH DOWNTOWN REVITALIZATION.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††† ††††††††††††††MR. MCGOFF: What is the

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† recommendation of the Chairperson for the

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† Committee on Community Development.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the

 

†† ††††††††16††††††††††††† Committee on Community Development, I

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† recommend final passage of Item 7-C.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I would have like to have

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† spoken more with Ms. Collins about the

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† issues raised by speakers tonight and, you

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† know, again, I do feel that grant money

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† needs to be spread throughout the city not

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† just focused entirely on the downtown,


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 123

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† that's been ongoing now for nearly eight

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† years, and I'd like to see that spread

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† throughout our city.† I had voted for this

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† previously and I would again if I were able

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† to at least get the answers that I'm looking

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† for but, unfortunately, that's not going to

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† happen so I'm going to have to vote, no.

 

† ††††††††††8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† I would just like to

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† add that there are many communities that

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† have had a Main Street Program, Allentown

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† was very successful, and I know I mentioned

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† this one before, Times Square has a, I don't

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† know if they call it a Main Street Program

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† but they have a downtown district which is

 

†† ††††††††15††††††††††††† what can be done here with the Main Street

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† Program.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† I think that one of the benefits of

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† it would be to help the small business

 

††† †††††††19††††††††††††† owners who have been neglected for so many

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† years.† We focused on the mall at one point

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† in time and we focused on the big developers

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† and I think that the Main Street Program

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† will be a chance for the little guy to

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† finally get something, a facade grant or

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† things to spruce up his business and, you


 

 

††††††† †††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††124

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† know, that's why I'm going to be voting for

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† it.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: I guess I would like to

 

†††† †††††††4††††††††††††† see exactly what those projects are, and

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† what I think I heard tonight was generally

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† speaking we hope to do, A, B, C, D, but no

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† specifics, so as if you apply for money

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† without ever having to present a business

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† plan or a --

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: You do.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: -- a projection of

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† exactly how this money is going to be used.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: Actually, you do as you

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† go along and the whole idea is to have the

 

†††††††††† 15†††††††† †††††main person go out, develop the business

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† plan, decide where the money is going to go,

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† go to the small business owners and say, you

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† know, what is you are looking for, what is

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† it -- that's the whole idea of the program.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† So, yeah, eventually that does come down the

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† pike.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: You need a manager to

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† start that.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: You need the manager to

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† be able to start that so that this person is


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††125

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† one who decides.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: In our Elm Street

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Program in South Scranton we have to get an

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† Elm Street manager, and then he will look at

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† what we want to do there and pursue those

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† avenues to get grants, more grants to do

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† those things, and it's determined by what

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† the people there want and this will be the

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† same way.† It will be determined by the

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† downtown business, you know, what they want

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† and so hopefully it will be many of those

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† small businesses, you know, that need that

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† little boost.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, what was

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† the program that you call that you have been

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† looking for the Main Avenue in West Scranton

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† all of these years?

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, Congressman

 

†††††††††† 19† ††††††††††††Kanjorski gave me the name of it.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Was it the one Barry

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† Minora did in North Scranton?

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know.† It

 

†† ††††††††23††††††††††††† might have been Main Street.† It might have

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† been Main Street.† When the Congressman was

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† here he had his assistant with him and I


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† ††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††126

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† can't recall off the top of my head, it

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† might have been Main Street, and he asked if

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† there was any monies in that and they had

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† told him, yes.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: See, that would be

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††† something that I think very, very beneficial

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† for West Scranton.† Granted, it's not in the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† downtown area, but that was a little busy

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††† area.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: They can apply for Elm

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† Street.† They can be an Elm Street.† They

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† can't be a Main Street.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: But they have had

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† terrible problems, as you know, all of these

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† years, Mr. Courtright, for some reason that

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† just --

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† I keep hitting road

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† blocks.† I can't --

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, I'll tell you,

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† you know, sometimes you just have to step up

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† to the plate.† There is nobody stepping up

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† to the plate.† I mean, up in North Scranton

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† Barry Minora did all of the leg work.† He

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† applied for the grants.

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: He actually --


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 127

 

 

††††††††††† 1 †††††††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: In South Side it's the

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† South Side Neighborhood and United

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† Neighborhood Centers.† You need somebody,

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† some group other than government to get it

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† together.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: We have sort of

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† deviated --

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Dr. Minora offered

 

††††††††††† 9†††††† †††††††to help us.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Well, I know, but you

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† need to get a group over there interested,

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††† you know, in helping, like maybe United

 

†††††††††† 13†††† †††††††††Neighborhood Centers or some nonprofits over

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† there maybe with the neighborhood group, and

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† you have to pursue it.† It's just too much

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† work and too lengthy that the government

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† just isn't going to do it for you.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† The first person I

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† went to was Dr. Barry Minora because I knew

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††† ††††he put a lot of work into.† He offered to

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† help, and I brought it up to the mayor and I

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† actually asked him to use Mr. McTiernan

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† because he was a little bit tighter with the

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† mayor than me at the time when he was here,

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† and the mayor didn't want to go that route,


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 128

 

 

††††††††††† 1 †††††††††††††he said we need to get the Congressman

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† involved, so I said, "Fine.† Whatever it

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† takes to get it done."

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yeah, but you still

 

††††† ††††††5††††††††††††† need somebody.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† And we brought in

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† the congressman.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: You still need people

 

††††††††††† 9†††††††††† †††over there that --

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Might we vote on 7-C and

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† we can discuss --

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: We'll all face it, you

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† lose.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI:† You got to put your

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† time in.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: The people in West

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† Side lose, not just me.

 

†††††††††† 18†††† †††††††††††††††††MS. GATELLI: You can't talk.† You

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† gotta -- if you can't talk the talk you got

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† to walk the walk.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Exactly, but sometimes it

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† depends on who is holding your hand.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI: Yeah, well, I held a

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† lot of hands in 28 years.


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 129

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS: Me, too.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Evans.

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† No.

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Gatelli.

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI.† Absolutely Yes.

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Ms. Fanucci.

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Yes.

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. McGoff.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Yes.† I hereby declare

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††† No. 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GARVEY: 7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††† BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT -

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††† FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 106, 2009 -

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††† AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††† CITY OF SCRANTON OFFICIALS TO APPLY FOR AND

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††† EXECUTE A NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††† (NSP) GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF THREE

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††† $3,000,000.00 MILLION DOLLARS THROUGH A

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††† PROGRAM OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA,

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††† DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††† DEVELOPMENT (DCED), AUTHORIZED AS PART OF

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† H.R. 3221-THE HOUSING AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY


 

 

†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† 130

 

 

††††††††††† 1††††††††††††† ACT, AND IF THE GRANT APPLICATION IS

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††† SUCCESSFUL, ACCEPTING AND DISBURSING THE

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††† GRANT FUNDS FOR THE "PROJECT" TO BE NAMED

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† "THE NEIGHBORHOOD STABILIZATION PROGRAM"

 

††††††††††† 5††††††††††††† (NSP).

 

††††††††††† 6††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: What is the

 

††††††††††† 7††††††††††††† recommendation of the Chair for the

 

††††††††††† 8††††††††††††† Committee on Community Development?

 

††††††††††† 9††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI: As chairperson for the

 

†††††††††† 10††††††††††††† Committee on Community Development, I

 

†††††††††† 11††††††††††††† recommend final passage of Item 7-D.

 

†††††††††† 12††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

†††††††††† 13††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† On the question?† Roll

 

†††††††††† 14††††††††††††† call, please.

 

†††††††††† 15††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Evans.

 

†††††††††† 16††††††††††††††††††††† MS. EVANS:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 17††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mrs. Gatelli.

 

†††††††††† 18††††††††††††††††††††† MS. GATELLI.† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 19††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Ms. Fanucci.

 

†††††††††† 20††††††††††††††††††††† MS. FANUCCI:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 21††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. Courtright.

 

†††††††††† 22††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT:† Yes.

 

†††††††††† 23††††††††††††††††††††† MS. MAGNOTTA:† Mr. McGoff.

 

†††††††††† 24††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF:† Yes.† I hereby declare

 

†††††††††† 25††††††††††††† Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


 

 

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††††††††††† 1†††††††††††††† †††††††MS. GATELLI: Motion to adjourn.

 

††††††††††† 2††††††††††††††††††††† MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

††††††††††† 3††††††††††††††††††††† MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.† Thank you

 

††††††††††† 4††††††††††††† for your participation.

 

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††††††††††† 1†††††††††††††††††††† C E R T I F I C A T E

 

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††††††††††† 3†† †††††I hereby certify that the proceedings and

 

††††††††††† 4†† evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

††††††††††† 5†† notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

††††††††††† 6†† above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

††††††††††† 7†† and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

††††††††††† 8†† ability.

 

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††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††† CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

†††††††††† 12†††††††††††††††††††† ††OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

 

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