1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Thursday, October 6, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania








































            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT (Not present.)



                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1   (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of reflection


            2   observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please?


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      (Mrs. Gatelli not present.)


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Let the record


           14              reflect that Mrs. Gatelli is not present and


           15              she called and said she would not be present


           16              at tonight's heating meeting.  Dispense with


           17              the reading of the minutes.


           18                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A.  TAX




           20              THE SINGLE TAX OFFICE ON OCTOBER 30, 2008.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           22              If not, received and filed.


           23                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B.  ZONING BOARD


           24              MEETING SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 12, 2008, HAS


           25              BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF BUSINESS.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            2              .  If not, received and filed.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C.  INDEPENDENT




            5              AUTHORITY FOR THE PERIOD ENDING DECEMBER 31,


            6              2007.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            8              If not, received and filed.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           10              Order.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you.  Just one or


           12              two quick announcements before we start.


           13              Today I went to the -- we were presented


           14              with the check from the University of


           15              Scranton, a check in the amount of $110,000


           16              payment in lieu of taxes.  We would like to


           17              thank the University and Father Pilarz for


           18              their I don't want to say gift, for their


           19              consideration.


           20                      Also, in recent weeks some people


           21              had some questions about the smoking ban.  I


           22              would just like to mention that the -- now


           23              I'm not going to find the paper, there is a


           24              website to which you can go.  The


           25              Pennsylvania Department of Health has a






            1              website that list all of the exceptions to


            2              the smoking ban for Lackawanna County, so if


            3              you are interested in seeing which


            4              establishments in Lackawanna County are


            5              exempt from the ban, please go to that


            6              website, and if I find the paper I will be


            7              more definitive about the name of the site.


            8              Anyone else?


            9                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.  St. Peter and Paul


           10              Church located at 1309 Locust Street is


           11              having it's fall festival and bazaar on


           12              Sunday, November 9th from 12 to 5 with


           13              takeouts from 11:30 to 2:00.  There will be


           14              raffles, delicious ethnic foods, games and a


           15              good time.


           16                      Also, there will an apple pie sale


           17              sponsored by Elm Park United Methodist


           18              Church on the corner of Linden Street and


           19              Jefferson Avenue.  They are selling


           20              nine-inch homemade apple pies baked or


           21              unbaked, advance orders are recommended.


           22              You can pick up your pies on Saturday,


           23              November 22 between 1:00 and 5:00 p.m. and


           24              you can phone in your orders for pies up to


           25              and including November 18, and the telephone






            1              number for those orders is 342-8263.  The


            2              cost for an unbaked pie is $9 and a baked


            3              pie $10.


            4                      Also, I received a number of he


            5              males concerning leaf pickup in the city


            6              this fall and I to have some information now


            7              from Mr. Brazil.  Beginning next Wednesday,


            8              November 12, the DPW will eliminate the


            9              paper pickup and do the leaf pickup in it's


           10              place.  In other words, people can put their


           11              leaves out for pickup on the same schedule


           12              that they would have put their papers out,


           13              and both types of collections are


           14              acceptable, those being bags at the curb or


           15              leaves raked to the curb for the vacuum


           16              truck.


           17                      And I would also ask everyone to


           18              please remember in your prayers this week a


           19              former student of mine, he graduated from


           20              Scranton High School last year, he was


           21              shipped out yesterday, he is on his way to


           22              Kuwait and, thereafter, Iraq.  So, if


           23              everyone would just please remember Nick


           24              Paddon in your prayers, may God keep him


           25              safe.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Citizens'


            2              participation.  Andy Sbaraglia.


            3                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,


            4              citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians, I


            5              have little story to tell you when I went to


            6              vote.  As you know, Nader was on the ballot


            7              as usual, and somebody asked me if they


            8              should vote for Nader and I said, no, you


            9              would be wasting your vote if you vote for


           10              Nader and for some reason or other I got


           11              accused of using the "N" word and that


           12              troubled me because I voted for Obama.  Why


           13              would they accuse me of using the "N" word


           14              when I all I said was Nader?  I don't know


           15              how close Nader sounds to the "N" word, but


           16              maybe to another layperson it would, but


           17              since it was done in a public forum at this


           18              forum I wish to address it, that's all.


           19                   Now, somewhere along the line they are


           20              these little desks like this for the


           21              ballots.  Maybe it's time now that they put


           22              up a little better enclosure around them


           23              desks and I'll talk to the people at the


           24              election bureau so that wouldn't happen, so


           25              that my voice necessarily wouldn't carry and






            1              them assuming that Nader was the "N" word.


            2              I do not use the "N" word.  I have never in


            3              my life used the "N" word.  If I address


            4              somebody it will either be black or negro


            5              like I was -- we used years and years ago,


            6              not even African-American.  I use the black


            7              term on negro, but, anyway, now that that's


            8              over I just wanted to address that.  I did


            9              not use that word and I never used that


           10              word.


           11                      Okay, Short Avenue here, 5-B, is


           12              that the old school that they tore down on


           13              Short Avenue that we are selling for $7,000?


           14              You all remember the school?


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Absolutely.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           17                      MR. SBARAGLIA: And you did rip it


           18              down.


           19                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           20                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  I'm wondering if


           21              this is the lot they are address now for


           22              7,000, it's quite a few acres.


           23                      MS. EVANS: Then it must be.


           24                      MR. SBARAGLIA: It's hard to say.  I


           25              could have probably looked at the backup a






            1              little more.


            2                      MS. EVANS: There were a lot of


            3              residential homes in this black.


            4                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  The only big spot


            5              was where the school stood.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Right.


            7                      MR. SBARAGLIA: So I don't know,


            8              anyway, I wish to address that one.  Now,


            9              the other thing I wish to address is the


           10              TANS.  They are advertising for TANS, I


           11              guess you know that.  TAN "A" and TAN "B".


           12              The paper for some reason put out TAN "B"


           13              and then the next week they put out TAN "A"


           14              and "B", so we are talking about 14,


           15              probably 14 1/2 million dollars again to


           16              borrow.  Now, how much is the tax office


           17              going to give us?  Are we going to get 5,000


           18              like they keep saying out of the tax office


           19              or are we still in the dark?


           20                      MS. EVANS: At this point this time I


           21              believe we are in the dark, Mr. Sbaraglia.


           22              The money is forthcoming I have learned


           23              before year end, but I don't know what the


           24              exact amount is going to be, but you are


           25              also correct on the amount of the TANS.






            1                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Well, wouldn't it


            2              make more sense to borrow one and then wait


            3              to see how much money we are getting from


            4              the other before we again have to borrow


            5              both?


            6                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


            7                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Or are we going to


            8              use that money from the tax bureau as


            9              throw-away money like we usually do in the


           10              city?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Andy, I even sent a


           12              letter asking what was going to be done with


           13              the money, but we didn't get a response.


           14                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I don't think you


           15              will either.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I gave it a shot.


           17                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Everything is a


           18              throw-away.  I mean, as you know the police


           19              buy their own cars, we lease everything, we


           20              don't own very little and what we did own we


           21              sold off.  You remember you sold off our


           22              good loans.


           23                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           24                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Them are gone.  I


           25              wish he had sold off city hall.  Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            2              Mr. Sbaraglia.  Ozzie Quinn.


            3                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'


            4              Association.  First of all, I would like to


            5              thank those people who have dropped food


            6              into our boxes for the food pantries


            7              throughout the city and through the county.


            8              I also want to thank those who have given


            9              monetary gifts.  I want to mention Pantuso


           10              Motors, Jaworski Signs, Gary DiBileo, Jerry


           11              Notarianni, Virginia and David Chikirus.


           12              IAMAW Union Local Lodge 2462, Scranton


           13              firefighters and Andy Sbaraglia.  We


           14              continue to donate food every Wednesday,


           15              that's when the deliveries will be.


           16                      I want to point out something that


           17              was in the newspaper on Monday in the


           18              classified legal ads, look at this here?


           19              That's one ad.  It's a bid for specs,


           20              31 inches long, okay?  And that is for


           21              Office of Economic and Community Development


           22              legal counsel.  Now, to me, to me this is


           23              unbelievable.  It's a government grant


           24              monopoly.  There is no competition.  It is


           25              made up, it wasn't drawn up by the city






            1              solicitor, it was drawn up by the OECD and


            2              who is the OECD lawyer, Attorney Grecco.  He


            3              drew up his own specs.  I looked at the


            4              specs and there is no way in heck can


            5              anybody ever be able to comply with these.


            6              Now, November 1 there were published and you


            7              have until November 10 to have the bid


            8              opening.  Now, how in the heck can anybody


            9              meet these specs and you have to have at


           10              least the last three years you had to be


           11              doing municipal governmental things such as


           12              in redevelopment, community development.


           13              Nobody is going to be able to actually meet


           14              that criteria but one person, and that is


           15              Attorney Carl Greco who has been taking


           16              hundreds and hundreds of thousands of


           17              dollars from the City of Scranton.  Last


           18              week I complained about the $600,000 why is


           19              that needed for administration.  Well, part


           20              of it is for this guy, okay?  I believe he


           21              is also the SRA lawyer.


           22                      Now, it's a quid pro quo that


           23              Doherty is playing.  Mayor Doherty is


           24              playing that.  Here is the campaign


           25              financial reports.  In here Mr. Greco,






            1              Attorney Greco has contributed to


            2              Mr. Doherty's campaign $9,675, that's a lot


            3              of money, so what he is doing he is getting


            4              this here bid, there is no doubt about it.


            5              The specs are designed to rehire him.  Ten


            6              days to put in the bid.


            7                      Now, another thing, too, is OECD


            8              selected a committee to determine.  Who --


            9              excuse me.  Please excuse me, who would be


           10              the winner of the bid.  It's just


           11              unbelievable that you can throw away


           12              hundreds of thousands of dollars to this


           13              man, okay?  And, you know, two years ago you


           14              argued about it and he went to Court and he


           15              won but nobody appealed it and everybody


           16              knew what the game was he was just going


           17              through the motions, but you got to stop


           18              this kind of corruption.  This is terrible.


           19                   I went over to the school board and I


           20              tried to tell them two weeks ago about the


           21              school board that are receiving the


           22              contributions to hire Hyland Associates and


           23              that design team of Palumbo, Aker and


           24              Quandel, and I pick up the paper and they


           25              are going to do the same for the NEIU.  They






            1              are going to do a study and it's going be


            2              the same design team.  No RFP on that one.


            3                   Now, this is getting to a point where


            4              it's so obvious it stinks and no wonder the


            5              people realize that this part of


            6              northeastern Pennsylvania political.


            7                      Now, you know, coming into the new


            8              year and we are looking at my experience


            9              with this food drive, okay, and seeing


           10              people and how much in need they are and


           11              seeing the debt that we are in in the City


           12              of Scranton, you know, over a half a million


           13              dollars in principle only, okay, and the


           14              school board has already said they are going


           15              -- they can tax up to 6.4 percent, so,


           16              please, we cannot, you know, go ahead and


           17              tax our people here in the City of Scranton


           18              again.  We just can't afford it and we can't


           19              afford a contract again for a person to keep


           20              on making $100,000 plus a year, okay?


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.


           22                      MR. QUINN:  Because it's quid pro


           23              quo.  Thank you.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.


           25                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening.  Marie






            1              Schumacher, resident and member of the


            2              Taxpayers' Association.  Although it's balmy


            3              tonight we all know winter is just around


            4              the corner.  With winter comes snow and


            5              typically an increase in home fires.  With


            6              home heating costs rising it is possible


            7              there may be more fires than in prior years


            8              as residents try to stretch their heating


            9              budget.  Time, of course, is critical in


           10              fighting fires.  Several times I have stood


           11              at this podium to ask the city to help the


           12              firefighters by painting the caps of the


           13              fire hydrants to indicate available flow.


           14                   Now, as we face winter and snow even


           15              color coating might not help if a hydrant is


           16              buried with snow.  With many of the hydrants


           17              on corners, they tend to get covered as the


           18              plowed snow stacks up at the corners.  I


           19              have seen hydrants in other communities with


           20              visibility markers, which are nothing more


           21              than poles attached to the hydrants with


           22              flags on top.  Scranton professes to be a


           23              progressive city, but when it comes to aids


           24              to help our firefighters protect our lives


           25              and property we miss the mark by miles.  It






            1              may be too late for the color coding this


            2              season, but it's not too late for visibility


            3              markers and I urge you to find the funds to


            4              procure and install visibility markers


            5              before the snow falls and I beg you to


            6              ensure there are funds in the 2009 budget to


            7              color code each and every hydrant in the


            8              city.


            9                      And now I would like to switch to a


           10              new topic.  There are a laws to protect


           11              consumers that fall into the general


           12              category of truth in advertising.  Companies


           13              can be sued tore fraud if they misrepresent


           14              a product or a service.  Government, on the


           15              other hand, appears to be protected.  For


           16              instance, there are two loans I recall, one


           17              to ECTV and the other to Alexander's Salon,


           18              that were presented on the agenda but the


           19              devil was in the detail.  Each of the loans


           20              turned into grants in three years.


           21                      In February of this year, a contract


           22              presentation was made to execute a contract


           23              with a Palumbo group to do a study to


           24              include historic preservation, environmental


           25              reviews and design for the Cedar Avenue






            1              revitalization area of Scranton, an area I


            2              might add that extends from Cedar Avenue


            3              bridge back to Brook Street, and what you


            4              might wonder was the end result of this


            5              contract?  Drawing for a new public library.


            6              So, I'm asking for consideration of a New


            7              Year's resolution, that all presentations


            8              for loans or contracts placed on the agenda


            9              will be truthful and present all pertinent


           10              facts such as loans that morph into grants.


           11                      On other subject, I would like to


           12              know how much longer we are going to have to


           13              wait for the 2007 audit now that the parking


           14              audit has been received, does anybody know?


           15                      MS. EVANS: Now or --


           16                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Go ahead.


           17                      MS. EVANS: It appears that we are to


           18              receive the audit by the end of 2008.


           19                      MS. SCHUMACHER: That's -- something


           20              has got to be done about the timing on those


           21              agenda, those audits, they really have to --


           22              this is ridiculous.  I don't know even know


           23              why we bother when it's so late.


           24                      Now, on 3-A onto tonight's agenda


           25              can anybody share what the tax collection






            1              comparison reports received shows, how much


            2              ahead are we this year than last --


            3                      MS. EVANS: I'm going to have a


            4              monthly comparison report under motions.


            5                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Oh, very good.


            6              Okay.  And back on the Alexander's loan,


            7              Mrs. Fanucci, when that loan was discussed


            8              last year you said there was going to be a


            9              fitness center and medical spa, but I called


           10              down there and there is no fitness and the


           11              equipment for that fitness center was


           12              supposed to be the collateral for a quarter


           13              million dollar loan, so now we have made a


           14              loan where we have no collateral; is that


           15              correct?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I actually do not know


           17              what they put in there, but I will check and


           18              see and I'm not sure they ended up putting


           19              up there.


           20                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And there is no


           21              medical spa and the doctor did not relocate.


           22              I asked about that and they said a


           23              doctor comes in from Philadelphia once a


           24              week presumably to do Botox shots and that


           25              kind of thing and you can make an






            1              appointment directly with him, but there is


            2              not a medical spa either.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll check on that.


            4                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Do we know anything


            5              more about Fratelli's?


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: No. No.


            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER: I think we need to


            8              start following up on these loans and what's


            9              promised.  Thank you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.


           11              Schumacher.  Anyone else?  Mr. Morgan?


           12                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.


           13              I don't really have too much tonight, I


           14              would just like to say that I hope that we


           15              could get a reformed or elected mayor in the


           16              City of Scranton like Mr. McCain and


           17              Mr. Obama wanted to try to do some very


           18              important things for us in Washington and of


           19              course, Mr. Obama won the election, but they


           20              were both talking about corruption and


           21              things that are just not happening quite


           22              right where special interest has complete


           23              control over everything.


           24                      And I just would like to say that my


           25              opinion is that after coming to these






            1              council meetings probably for 15 years,


            2              maybe more, I really don't know how long, a


            3              very long time, I'd have to say that this


            4              mayor has done the worst job of


            5              administering this city's business in all of


            6              the time that I can remember.  I remember


            7              coming here as a child when Mr. Lynn used to


            8              sit here on the end and I was amazed that


            9              these people would keep coming those council


           10              meetings trying to bring change to this city


           11              and the only change we have seen in this


           12              city is the very steep decline and it's


           13              continuing, and when I get the opportunity


           14              to drive through the city for my own


           15              personal business I'm amazed at all of the


           16              condemned houses and the lack of maintenance


           17              in the city and I truthfully can't blame the


           18              residents completely because the wage base


           19              has been so stagnated by overtaxation and


           20              wastes of all types of money including grant


           21              money, and I just think that somebody needs


           22              to run against this mayor and take him out


           23              of this office because it seems that we have


           24              appointed people that keep spending his


           25              agenda forward and as has happened.






            1                      And this isn't a shot at Mr. McGoff


            2              either, I mean, I do understand the mayor


            3              came up to break a tie to put you on the


            4              seat, Mr. McGoff, but there were many other


            5              instances, and I really don't have a lot of


            6              arguments with you, Mr. McGoff, because you


            7              seem to be somewhat fair minded, and I'm not


            8              trying to patronize you either, but just to


            9              be honest, you know, I do disagree with many


           10              things you do, but some of the people that


           11              were appointed were just complete figure


           12              heads, and this city suffered so much that


           13              really it's time for a change and if we


           14              can't even complete audits or we don't know


           15              what's going on it's just -- it's beyond


           16              belief.  And I think it's -- I think we need


           17              to pass the burden to this council to stop


           18              introducing anything the mayor wants, as I


           19              have said many times before, until we have


           20              studied what he wants and we have a firm


           21              opinion of what's going on in facts.


           22                      I mean, we are paving streets with


           23              no curbs.  We have city blocks with no


           24              sidewalks.  We have an infrastructure in


           25              this city that's completely collapsed and we






            1              have had people who have abandoned their


            2              homes and left the city while they are still


            3              for sale, that tells you that they are


            4              trying to run as fast as they can and I know


            5              that everybody on this council can make a


            6              change for the better, but do you want to,


            7              that's the question.  Thank you.


            8                      MR. TALIMINI: Joe Talimini, City of


            9              Scranton.  I'd like to address a question to


           10              Mr. Courtright, Mr. Courtright, for the last


           11              couple of weeks could you find out how many


           12              policemen have been on duty on Friday nights


           13              and on Saturdays nights?


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I will try, Friday


           15              nights and Saturday nights on what shift?


           16                      MR. TALIMINI: It would be on the


           17              second shift.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Sure, I'll try.


           19                      MR. TALIMINI: Because every night I


           20              listen to that scanner and every Friday


           21              night and every Saturday night they seem to


           22              have not enough cars available to send out


           23              on a call and there are some pretty serious


           24              calls and there is no cars available.  Now,


           25              I think I counted five cars or six cars






            1              Friday night when they had several


            2              incidents.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: For from 8 to 4


            4              there should be more cars coming on because


            5              they implement a new shifts.  I'll check it


            6              though, second shift.


            7                      MR. TALIMINI: Because it seems to me


            8              there is a lack of police available and I


            9              think there is a scheduling problem.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll check into it.


           11                      MR. TALIMINI: And another thing I


           12              would like to know is just how many cars we


           13              have who have cages in them because when


           14              they make arrests, I mean, you got car 18


           15              which is on --


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Not enough.


           17                      MR. TALIMINI: -- Birney Avenue and


           18              then you've got something on Greenridge and


           19              they got to go down and pick somebody up and


           20              here's a cop standing there for 15 minutes


           21              waiting for somebody to come down and pick


           22              up a transporter for them, that's another


           23              vital thing because like it or not we do


           24              have an increase in the crime in this town,


           25              considerably.






            1                      I'd like to ask why we cannot go


            2              back to Thursday night meetings because I


            3              think it's very, very important for us.  For


            4              instance, the last couple of weeks on


            5              Tuesday nights when we had meetings, there


            6              have been other meetings going on on Tuesday


            7              nights which a lot of us would like to


            8              attend.  We had the choice of either


            9              attending the council meeting or attending a


           10              debate.  We had choice of either attending a


           11              council meeting or attending another


           12              agency's meeting.  Thursday night seems to


           13              be the best night for the council meeting.


           14                   Now, why we can't go back to Thursday


           15              nights, I don't know.  I don't know why we


           16              had to change them to begin with, but for


           17              the last few weeks there has been a conflict


           18              all the way around, everything happens on


           19              Tuesday nights.  There is no reason in the


           20              world why we cannot have council meetings


           21              back on Thursday nights.  Now, I see a lot


           22              of you snickering, well, I'm sorry about


           23              that if it's an inconvenience to you, but


           24              the point of it is your schedule is easier


           25              to change than it is to change the whole






            1              community's schedule, and I see no reason


            2              whatsoever why we can't go to back to


            3              Thursday night meetings.  They worked very


            4              well before and they should work very well


            5              now, but if it's a choice between missing a


            6              council meeting or another meeting, I don't


            7              think that's fair to the citizenry and


            8              that's exactly what's going on.  Everything


            9              happens on Tuesday nights in Scranton for


           10              some reason unless you are out drinking and


           11              that happens on Friday and Saturday nights,


           12              so thank you very much.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?


           14                      MR. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council,


           15              Dan Hubbard, lower Greenridge Neighborhood


           16              Association.  I was wondering if the flood


           17              control office had an answer a to why our


           18              neighborhood was not notified of this


           19              meeting?


           20                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           21                      MR. HUBBARD: And if you could just


           22              give me a minute to speak.  Also I have a


           23              question, as far as I know the foot patrol


           24              police officers in the city are paid with


           25              grant money for overtime; correct?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Correct.


            2                      MR. HUBBARD:  And that money is


            3              federal grant money; correct?


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Correct.


            5                      MR. HUBBARD: Which means that it


            6              pretty much has to be used in low income


            7              designated neighborhoods?


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Correct.


            9                      MR. HUBBARD: So, when we came to you


           10              guys and asked you why we couldn't get some


           11              of the Elm Street flood project money to


           12              repair the river banks in lower Greenridge


           13              we were told that we are considered a low to


           14              moderate income neighborhood and Judy had


           15              petitioned that we take a petition through


           16              the neighborhood to try to have our


           17              designation changed versus what the census


           18              states because we are connected to


           19              Greenridge, so my question is on the


           20              election day why was there a foot patrol


           21              officer on Gardener Avenue checking license


           22              plate registrations on my vehicles, my


           23              father's boat trailer, then he proceeded to


           24              lift the cover off of the boat bow to check


           25              the registration number and the registration






            1              which by, if anybody is aware of, police


            2              have absolutely no authority over boat


            3              registrations, only the trailer, so if the


            4              boat is not registered -- the boat doesn't


            5              have to be registered until it's on the


            6              water and then it falls --


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: What time of day it


            8              was?


            9                      MR. HUBBARD: Well, I was Weston


           10              Field, I went home to vote and grab lunch at


           11              12:30, my neighbor grabbed me and said that


           12              the officer was just there about ten minutes


           13              before I got there, so around noon.  The


           14              boat registration is the Fish Commission.


           15              Boat trailer is obviously DOT or police


           16              department.  The trailer is up-to-date on


           17              the registration, so not that we are turning


           18              away any police protection in lower


           19              Greenridge, but it leads me to -- my mind to


           20              think other things since we have never had a


           21              foot patrol in our neighborhood ever.


           22                      MS. EVANS: Was that parked on the


           23              street?


           24                      MR. HUBBARD: It was parked on the


           25              street, but it is legally registered and






            1              insured, so there is no violation of any law


            2              with the boat trailer.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Are you sure it was


            4              a beat cop?


            5                      MR. HUBBARD: Yes.  So, I would just


            6              like to know, I mean, obviously there is


            7              other areas in the city where these guys


            8              could be well-placed to better protect the


            9              citizens.  Lower Greenridge is a pretty


           10              small neighborhood, we really don't have


           11              much of a crime -- the recent spray painting


           12              spree, but that's about it.  I understand


           13              the gentleman that did all of the spray


           14              painting in our neighborhood was arrested,


           15              so I would just like an answer on that,


           16              also.


           17                      Really that's about it.  You know, I


           18              did thoroughly enjoy the article in the


           19              times on Tuesday that painted us the flood


           20              victims out to be a bunch of whiners, that


           21              was really nice, and I also enjoyed the


           22              sources that the Times went to for their


           23              side of the story being Mrs. Maranuchi and,


           24              of course, our favorite neighbor Ron Kitlas,


           25              so you are really digging deep on sources






            1              there, so I would like to just make sure


            2              everybody understands that we are still


            3              flood victims, we are still unprotected and


            4              we are at our most vulnerable state that we


            5              have ever been at right now and we will be


            6              sitting like this for at least another year


            7              without any flood sirens or temporary flood


            8              protection in place since the first flood in


            9              lower Greenridge in 2004.  So, I just wanted


           10              to make everybody is clear on that that we


           11              are still the unprotected link in the chain.


           12              Thank you.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Hubbard.


           14              Anyone else?


           15                      MS. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council.


           16              Liz Hubbard, Scranton resident.  I just have


           17              a couple of questions, can anybody up there


           18              tell me who are the members of the


           19              Recreation Authority?


           20                      MS. EVANS: I don't know them.


           21                      MS. HUBBARD: Can you find out?


           22                      MS. EVANS: Oh, sure.


           23                      MS. HUBBARD:  Would they have an


           24              office that if I call there tomorrow --


           25                      MS. EVANS: You can call our office






            1              tomorrow.


            2                      MS. HUBBARD:  That's what I mean.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


            4                      MS. HUBBARD: Okay.  Now, it seems to


            5              me I recall something regarding the Forum


            6              Garage that there was a lot of money owed


            7              for -- doesn't the city charge a certain


            8              amount for each parking space?


            9                      MS. EVANS: Um-hum.


           10                      MS. HUBBARD:  And it was never paid


           11              and there was somehow it had ended up in


           12              court?


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.


           14                      MS. HUBBARD:  Was that ever resolved


           15              and did the city ever get their money?


           16                      MS. EVANS: Not to my knowledge.


           17                      MS. HUBBARD: Could you find out?


           18                      MS. EVANS: We can certainly attempt


           19              to.


           20                      MS. HUBBARD: And what you have would


           21              have to do to, you know, resurrect it if


           22              that the word I want because I think at the


           23              time the amount was something in the


           24              vicinity of $68,000 and that's awhile ago,


           25              so it must still be --






            1                      MS. EVANS: $16,000?


            2                      MS. HUBBARD: I think it's 68.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Oh, 68 you said.


            4                      MS. HUBBARD:  I'm not sure of that,


            5              but it seems to me I remember that number.


            6              And another thing about the University of


            7              Scranton parking garages, the hospital


            8              parking garages, do they pay fees for their


            9              parking spaces?  I know, and I brought this


           10              up before, I know the University charges


           11              students for parking.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           13                      MS. HUBBARD: So are they paying


           14              their fair share of the parking tax?


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I don't think so.


           16                      MS. EVANS: I don't think so.


           17                      MS. HUBBARD: You don't think so.


           18                      MS. EVANS: I could be wrong, but I


           19              know council at a previous time had


           20              discussed looking into the garage situation.


           21                      MS. HUBBARD: I think I might have


           22              brought it up.


           23                      MS. EVANS: And receiving money from


           24              the University in lieu of taxes or perhaps


           25              in the form of an impact fee in order to






            1              cover those parking situations and since


            2              nothing ever materialized from that I'm


            3              assuming it's because we were not able, in


            4              other words, we are not able to obtain any


            5              money from the nonprofits for their parking


            6              garages.


            7                      MS. HUBBARD:  Well, that doesn't


            8              seem quite right because if the CMC has a


            9              parking garage and I go to the hospital to


           10              visit somebody I have to pay.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Right.


           12                      MS. HUBBARD: So, they are getting my


           13              money for that garage.


           14                      MS. EVANS: Oh, I agree.


           15                      MS. HUBBARD: That should not be


           16              nonprofit, that should be taxed or fee'd or


           17              whatever you want to call it.  I mean, it


           18              seems as though we are always looking for


           19              ways to get money out of the taxpayers so


           20              maybe we should start looking for ways to


           21              get money out of the nontaxpayers.  Anyone


           22              know anything about the skunks?


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No.


           24                      MS. HUBBARD: I smelled one tonight


           25              when I came out to come to the meeting.  And






            1              also somebody told me that they don't


            2              hibernate.


            3                      MS. EVANS: That's true, they don't,


            4              and spring is the reproductive season.


            5                      MS. HUBBARD: Yeah, well, I mean,


            6              Judy said that they are going to be taken


            7              care of so let's get on that, okay?  Thank


            8              you.  Have a good night and I'll call


            9              tomorrow for that list.


           10                      THE COURT:  Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


           11                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Good evening, City


           12              Council.  Bill Jackowitz, South Scranton


           13              resident.  Toastmaster's International, the


           14              person at the podium is the speaker,


           15              everybody else are the listeners.  Worldwide


           16              renowned organization, it's a good rule, I


           17              believe to follow.


           18                      I see where the metropolitan area of


           19              Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Hazelton now has


           20              now has the highest unemployment rate in the


           21              state, we were second to the highest, but


           22              now we overcame Johnstown and now we've got


           23              the highest unemployment rate in the state.


           24              I realize we are having economic tough times


           25              throughout the country, but this area has






            1              had economic times for the last 50 to


            2              60 years.  I see where another business has


            3              moved out of town and I mean, things have to


            4              change.


            5                      We continually hear about how great


            6              we are doing economically, how we were


            7              spending money on this and spending money on


            8              that, but the bottom line is people are not


            9              getting jobs that they can live on, and


           10              again, I know we got problems throughout the


           11              country, but I'm worried about the country,


           12              but I'm also worried -- I'm also worried


           13              about the community of Scranton.  You know,


           14              the Chamber of Commerce, the mayor,


           15              everybody says how good we are and the city


           16              is booming, but there is no proof of that.


           17              And, again, now we have the highest


           18              unemployment.  We actually dropped to


           19              6.5 percent unemployment, but we moved up to


           20              being the highest in the state, and that's


           21              just not right.  Spend like this, I have


           22              been talking about this for four years,


           23              basically been ignored, Austin Burke, I have


           24              asked for Austin Burke, Chamber of Commerce


           25              president to come to city council and






            1              perhaps have city council invite him, have


            2              the mayor come in and talk about this


            3              problem for years and years and years no one


            4              has ever acknowledged it, no one has ever


            5              invited these people or if they have invited


            6              them they have never showed up to talk about


            7              it.


            8                      These are serious issues because the


            9              citizens are suffering in this city.


           10              Whether you believe is or not the citizens


           11              of this city are suffering.  Wages, we have


           12              the lowest per hour wage rate in the state.


           13              We have the lowest medium wage rate in the


           14              state and have had over and over and over


           15              again.  I ask these questions to Congressman


           16              Kanjorski and Mayor Lou Barletta, they


           17              really don't have any answers either.


           18                      Well, why do we have a Chamber of


           19              Commerce?  Why do we have elected officials


           20              and why are we continually told over and


           21              over and over again how great we are doing.


           22              The food pantries are empty.


           23                      By the way, I would like to


           24              congratulate the Scranton Taxpayers'


           25              Association on their food drive and






            1              Councilwoman Evans, who I understand was


            2              instrumental in all of this, and I


            3              understand it went very well.


            4                      Also, I would like to congratulate


            5              Dave Dobson and Mark Migliore from ECTV who


            6              had the meetings with Mayor Barletta and


            7              Congressman, I keep on wanting to say


            8              Councilman, but it's Congressman Kanjorski,


            9              because they did play those over and over


           10              and over again right before the election and


           11              hopefully it was beneficial to all of those


           12              or anyone who saw them because I thought


           13              that those meetings and were very


           14              well-informed and done very professionally


           15              and basically that's about it, But again,


           16              when is the economy in this area going to


           17              improve?


           18                      You know, from my understanding I


           19              believe the Southern Union is still empty.


           20              Where is Merrill Lynch?  They were supposed


           21              to be here in October.  Where are they?  Is


           22              the mayor and Austin Burke working on this


           23              project or has is fallen into the cracks


           24              like everything else in this city always


           25              does?  I mean, like I said, and again, my






            1              questions have not been answered that I


            2              asked three weeks ago three times in a row,


            3              the question is who a responsible for the


            4              City of Scranton being distressed for


            5              16 years and when is the wage tax going to


            6              be reduced like Mayor Doherty promised us in


            7              2003?  The wage tax has not been reduced,


            8              it's still at 3.4 percent and we are


            9              distressed for 16 years, 2009 -- or


           10              17 years, when is it going to change, who is


           11              going to change it and who is responsible


           12              for it?  I mean, these are simple questions


           13              and I really wish they would be answered.


           14              Thank you.


           15                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Good evening,


           16              Council.  I'm Tom Ungvarsky and I'm a member


           17              of the Scranton and Lackawanna County


           18              Taxpayers'.  For the last two weeks our


           19              organization has been conducting a food


           20              drive.  Tomorrow will be the last day that


           21              we will be collecting non-perishable food


           22              items.  As of yesterday, we have delivered


           23              box after box to five different food


           24              pantries.  That was our second delivery.  I


           25              wish to thank the people who are picking it






            1              up which was Dave Evans, Ozzie Quinn, and


            2              Bob Jones.  They have been picking up the


            3              food and they have been delivering the food.


            4              We are now going to start buying the food


            5              and we will distribute what we buy over the


            6              next few weeks.  I wish to thank Janet Evans


            7              and Ozzie Quinn for getting this project


            8              started.  Without them, if wouldn't have


            9              been done and I thank you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           11              Mr. Ungvarsky.  Anyone else?


           12                      MR. DOBSON: Good evening.  Dave


           13              Dobson, resident of the Scranton and


           14              taxpayers' member.  Veteran's Day is there


           15              going to be any rescheduling of the council


           16              meeting?  Yes or no?


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: No.


           18                      MR. DOBSON: No?  Okay.  Then it's


           19              the answer.  Okay, once again I see 5-C


           20              where we spent a lot of money and effort on


           21              Lackawanna Avenue and I would like to


           22              mention once again Buona Pizza is still not


           23              included.  Please try to find some kind of


           24              solution for these people if possible.  I


           25              think they are pretty reasonable and they






            1              have been a nice business in town for quite


            2              awhile.


            3                      And other than that, our election is


            4              over with and we have a whole bunch of new


            5              congress people and some old ones and new


            6              president, I would like to urge everybody to


            7              stay in touch now, don't just forget that


            8              they are there for the next four years and


            9              let them run off what they want.


           10                      And, please, in the future try to do


           11              some research into possible industrial


           12              properties in town or otherwise we can't


           13              attract people of any caliber and jobs of


           14              any caliber, you know, I don't want to pick


           15              on the coffee shops or whatever, but we do


           16              need industrial space and a place to work


           17              that people don't have to drive 50 miles to


           18              every day just to find a job.


           19                      Furthermore, we also need to attract


           20              young families to the city, we have a lot of


           21              houses up for sale, so if the city is going


           22              to survive without going year in and year


           23              out and further and further in debt and so


           24              forth the whole country that has to change.


           25              Also, contact your representative and






            1              congressmen, please, and ask them to stop


            2              with the trade packs.  Just put a hiatus on


            3              it and start thinking differently because as


            4              it stands right now we can't compete with


            5              someone that's forced to operate at the


            6              business end of the machine.  Our society is


            7              actually falling apart.  We have no consumer


            8              base at all left for a consumer economy, we


            9              have no manufacturing base left and, of


           10              course, you people probably see this every


           11              day, but the lynch pin is contact your


           12              representative, if you do after awhile maybe


           13              they will get the message.  Thank you and


           14              have a good night.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.


           16              Anyone other speakers?


           17                      MR. NEWCOMB: Good evening, Council.


           18              I had something to address with Mrs.


           19              Gatelli, but I guess I'll come back next


           20              week so I have just two shorts things.  The


           21              first one is you mentioned before about the


           22              tax office, do you know some of the money


           23              tax office, does that belong to the county,


           24              too?


           25                      MS. EVANS: It appears so.






            1                      MR. NEWCOMB: Their money?  I think


            2              some of that money is for them, too, because


            3              I see in the meeting, last week with the


            4              county and I know some people talked to


            5              tonight about taxes and our school taxes,


            6              and according to what I read would be going


            7              up somewhat next year, but what I want to


            8              say about that is at the commissioners i


            9              heard them say we that we're supposed to


           10              have our reassessment put off until 2010 at


           11              least or better because of some kind of


           12              mapping problem and they were saying that


           13              they wanted it to done beforehand because


           14              they are in trouble with finances, too, they


           15              want to get the mapping problems


           16              straightened out, so my point is maybe, you


           17              know, they could send a letter or somebody


           18              could send a letter and it will save the


           19              taxpayers a little bit on their property tax


           20              if they get some of that like Mrs. Evans


           21              said, maybe it's coming by the end of the


           22              year, maybe that will put off the


           23              reassessment for a little bit before


           24              everybody gets their tax bills.


           25                      And what I do have to say is every






            1              three years, fortunately, I guess it all


            2              depends on where you live, but every three


            3              years just from my own well-being I hire a


            4              real estate agent to do an appraisals on my


            5              home, and I pick a different one every three


            6              years so I don't get the same, I just do


            7              that for my own good, and in the area where


            8              I live, fortunately, I really thought that


            9              the homes were going to be down a little bit


           10              from '06 I had it done, so what are we in,


           11              I'm sorry, '05, so it's three years my went


           12              up over a little bit like $7,000, which it


           13              really I thought it would be better than


           14              that, but my point is the real estate is


           15              holding it's value a little bit and the rule


           16              of thumb is what they told me is if you have


           17              a good property and a good location every


           18              ten years you should double your price.


           19              That's real estate rule of thumb.  Like, in


           20              other words, if you bought it for 40 and you


           21              are in a good area maybe in ten years from


           22              then it should be worth like higher 70's or


           23              early 80's if you live in a good area, so my


           24              own vein we'll be there ten years in '09 and


           25              we are only about $4,000 from there, so






            1              there is some parts to this, but they told


            2              me the biggest part is when they do an


            3              evaluation on a home you got to watch what's


            4              around you because if you are in a blighted


            5              area or if you're in an area where there is


            6              some foreclosures, there is some homes in


            7              the City of Scranton right now that this


            8              particular person did, I'm not going to tell


            9              you who did mine, but he did three of them


           10              same week he did mine and some of those


           11              properties went down like 6 to 8 percent and


           12              the reason for them going down 6 to


           13              8 percent he said because there was some


           14              blight in that area, so maybe, you know,


           15              that's why everybody keeps their property up


           16              and hopefully we won't have as big a real


           17              estate problem as we could have.  Thank you.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Newcomb.


           19              Anyone else?


           20                      MR. SLEDZENSKI:  Hi, Billy.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Hi, Chris.


           22                      MR. SLEDZENSKI: Up a little bit?


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, pick it up a


           24              little bit.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Liking that hat, Chris.






            1                      MR. SLEDZENSKI: Thank you, Janet, it


            2              happened to us down there.  It was a good


            3              year.  They had a good year, didn't they?


            4                      MS. EVANS: Yes, they did.


            5                      MR. SLEDZENSKI: I was there, wasn't


            6              I?


            7                      MS. EVANS: Yes, you were, everyday.


            8              You did an excellent job, Chris.


            9                      MR. SLEDZENSKI:  Billy, I love you,


           10              Billy.  Good luck, Billy.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thanks, Chris.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mrs.


           13              Evans?


           14                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Good evening.


           15              I'm pleased to report that our food drive to


           16              benefit Scranton food pantries has been very


           17              successful as was indicated earlier in


           18              evening and I would like to thank all of the


           19              Scranton businesses who contributed canned


           20              items and monetary donations.  I also thank


           21              the fire department, DPW, police department


           22              and city hall offices for their wonderful


           23              donations.  I particularly wish to thank


           24              Mrs. Nancy Krake and the members of the


           25              clerical union for their generous $500






            1              donation and Dave Shriber and members of the


            2              Scranton Fire Department for their $100


            3              donation to help feed Scranton's poor.


            4                      The Scranton/Lackawanna Taxpayers'


            5              Association has opened up bank account for


            6              monetary donations so that nonperishable


            7              food items will continue to be purchased and


            8              delivered to food pantries throughout


            9              November, and if these monetary donations


           10              continue, with God's help and yours, they


           11              can continue to purchase and deliver food


           12              throughout the winter months as well.


           13              Donations can be made payable to the


           14              Scranton/Lackawanna Taxpayers' Association


           15              and can be mailed to 116 Masters Street,


           16              18510, for the remainder of the fall and


           17              winter months.


           18                      Special thanks to Ozzie Quinn, Tom


           19              Ungvarsky, Dave Evans for their tireless


           20              dedication, energy time and hard work to


           21              make this much needed food drive so


           22              successful.  Please continue to give as the


           23              cold winter months set in.


           24                      Council also received a response to


           25              it's letter to county commissioners






            1              regarding an allocation to stock food


            2              pantries and in the response Theresa Osborne


            3              explains that the County Human Services Area


            4              Agency on Aging and Children and Youth


            5              Services Department, strive to annually


            6              provide life-sustaining services such a food


            7              and shelter to the needy through the


            8              Emergency Food and Shelter Program and


            9              through a collaborative arrangement with the


           10              United State Way Program.  Such commitments


           11              remain in place in the current fiscal year,


           12              and I thank the commissioners for this


           13              timely response.


           14                      And before I move on with some


           15              financial information, I did want to comment


           16              on speaker's presentation tonight regarding


           17              the advertisement for council for OECD.  I


           18              know that the same gentleman has received


           19              this appointment for seven years.


           20              Initially, I would say perhaps the first two


           21              or three years, there was no bidding system


           22              in place and when finally that occurred it


           23              appeared that the specifications of the


           24              requests for proposals, let us say, was


           25              tailor made to one individual.  However, one






            1              year there was another applicant for the


            2              position who was not chosen.  I do not know


            3              if since that time these advertisements


            4              appear in newspaper outside of the City of


            5              Scranton, but Mr. Quinn's assessment of the


            6              situation is, indeed, correct.


            7                      November 15, the deadline for


            8              submission of the mayor's 2009 proposed


            9              budget, fast approaches.  There are five


           10              developments to report which will impact


           11              this budget.  First, proposals will be


           12              opened on November 24 for two tax


           13              anticipation notes.  TANS Series "A" in the


           14              amount of five million and TANS Series "B"


           15              for 9.5 million.


           16                      Second, if contract negotiations


           17              with the police and fire are successful


           18              before the budget submission date, those new


           19              dollar amounts will be included in the 2009


           20              budget.  If an agreement is reached


           21              following the budget's submission the budget


           22              would have to be amended to include new


           23              figures.


           24                      Third, it seems that the first part


           25              of the forensic audit of the Single Tax






            1              Office should be completed by the year end


            2              and the city anticipates some distribution


            3              of funds by year end.  The forensic audit is


            4              to be accomplished in two phases, phase one,


            5              determines the amount and source of funds to


            6              be distributed, and phase two will recommend


            7              potential solutions to avoid such problems


            8              in the future.  It appears that these monies


            9              will arrive just in time to save the 2009


           10              budget and very likely save the mayor from


           11              increasing taxes during an election year.


           12                   Fourth, it seems the 2007 independent


           13              audit of city council will be completed by


           14              the end of 2008, therefore, the question


           15              arises how accurate are the figures


           16              contained in the 2009 proposed budget


           17              without a firm accounting of the finances


           18              contained in the independent audit.


           19                      Through no fault of the auditor


           20              Rossi & Sons, the 2007 audit has languished


           21              for longer than the audits of 2003, 2004,


           22              and 2005.  Only the audit of 2006 required


           23              extra time because it was initiated several


           24              months later than the normal starting date.


           25              In a typical municipality such occurrences






            1              and coincidence would raise a red flag, but


            2              Scranton has been anything but typical in


            3              the last few years.


            4                      Fifth, the Single Tax Office has


            5              submitted it's monthly comparisons for


            6              year-to-date tax collections.  The city real


            7              estate tax collections decreased by nearly 2


            8              percent while the wage tax collections


            9              increased by over $3.1 million or 20.4


           10              percent.  The business privilege and


           11              mercantile tax collections also increased by


           12              3.8 percent while EMS tax collections


           13              declined by 46.7 percent.


           14                      I'm very pleased to finally see the


           15              wage tax collections return to what they


           16              should be in 2008.  After several years of


           17              negligence under Mr. McDowell, I recognize


           18              that wage tax figures were down as finance


           19              chair council and after all of this time I


           20              have been validated through aggressive tax


           21              collections and the discovery of banked tax


           22              dollars.


           23                      Next, I received a response from


           24              Attorney Penetar to my concerns and efforts


           25              to protect residents of lower Greenridge






            1              from a potential new business similar to


            2              Daron Northeast.  Unfortunately, Attorney


            3              Penetar offers no relief for these


            4              homeowners and taxpayers.  Noise levels are


            5              addressed by ordinance and by the zoning


            6              enforcement officer, Mr. Wallace.  If he


            7              determines a violation the hiring of a


            8              professional noise engineer to run tests is


            9              usually required according to Attorney


           10              Penetar.  The cost of hiring an expert


           11              appears to fall onto the complainant or the


           12              city.


           13                      As to air quality issues, he states


           14              the city has not the authority to conduct a


           15              study and such issues must be referred to


           16              federal and state agencies.  What puzzles


           17              me, however, is the fact that an appropriate


           18              government agency already conducted a study


           19              and recommended that change in zoning to


           20              protect the residents.  Obviously, this


           21              seems to be of no consequence to the zoning


           22              board solicitor.  Attorney Penetar ends by


           23              stating, "Unless a specific violation of


           24              these regulations can be proven in Court,


           25              allegations remain just allegation."






            1                      I'd like to add that I do not find


            2              the comparison of Daron Northeast to


            3              Marywood construction vehicles made by


            4              Attorney Penetar to be equivalent, sound or


            5              appropriate.  Zoning laws are designed not


            6              only to provide a coexistence of industrial,


            7              commercial and residential uses, but also to


            8              protect human beings from the adverse


            9              quality of live effects of businesses which


           10              encroach on residential neighborhoods.  If


           11              any zoning department guards the rights of


           12              business to the detriment of homeowners and


           13              residents, then it has lost sight of it's


           14              balance mission.


           15                      And in response to a question posed


           16              by a speaker earlier this evening regarding


           17              the flood meeting, Mr. O'Hora from the flood


           18              office called to respond to the letter we


           19              sent out last week regarding the meeting


           20              that took place at Weston Field with Barbara


           21              Maranuchi and the Bullshead Neighborhood


           22              Association.  He said the flood office had


           23              nothing to do with setting this meeting up.


           24              Mr. Williams from Congressman Kanjorski's


           25              office set it up and notified the flood






            1              office of the date and time.  Mr. O'Hora


            2              said he couldn't even attend due to a prior


            3              commitment that he had that day and that


            4              Congressman Kanjorski's office had someone


            5              from the Army Corp there.  What


            6              Mrs. Maranuchi had to do with it Mr. O'Hora


            7              does not know.


            8                      And, finally, a few citizens'


            9              requests.  If Mr. Brazil could provide,


           10              please, in writing the city's snow removal


           11              citywide policy because numerous city


           12              residents have requested the information as


           13              winter fast approaches.


           14                      Also, I'm not certain to whom we


           15              want to address this, Kay, if it would be


           16              the parking authority, perhaps Mr. Renda as


           17              well, was the city ever paid for the alleged


           18              approximate $68,000 for parking spaces at


           19              the Forum Parking Garage?  We would like a


           20              written update on that situation, please.


           21              And, in addition, to the same individuals,


           22              do the nonprofits such as city hospitals and


           23              post secondary institutions pay fees to the


           24              city for spaces in their parking garages?


           25              And that's it.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Evans.


            2              Mr. Fanucci?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't have anything


            4              at this time.  Thank you.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Two things.  I have


            7              a letter here I'd like to read, "On behalf


            8              of Village Park Apartments management and


            9              residents, I just want to thank you along


           10              with Car 22, Rescue 1, Engine 9, Engine 7


           11              and Truck four for their service


           12              extinguishing and securing 109 Townhouse


           13              Boulevard during the fire on November 19th


           14              at 6:00 p.m.  Their quick response in


           15              combination with the assessment of the


           16              situation, respect for the property and


           17              caring shown to the residents was very much


           18              appreciated.  I would like to extend our


           19              best wishes for all of those involved."


           20                      And that's signed, "Sincerely Carrie


           21              Yackovozi, site manager for the Village Park


           22              Apartments."


           23                      And just one other thing, as we are


           24              all aware, the gas company is digging up


           25              quite a few streets in Scranton and after






            1              they dig them up they have to repair them,


            2              on Fellow Street near the West Scranton


            3              Middle School they dug up a portion of the


            4              street they were going to pave it and the


            5              city was going to pave an intersection and


            6              that left approximately 100 feet of the road


            7              that would not be paved and it would kind of


            8              look ridiculous being paved to a certain


            9              extent and not paved a little further, and


           10              so I would like to thank the gas company and


           11              also John Hazzouri for getting together and


           12              they are going to pave that 100 feet in


           13              front there so that it doesn't look


           14              ridiculous, so I just want to thank those


           15              two individuals for the help and I'm sure


           16              that the residents of Fellow Street are the


           17              ones that have called me were very pleased,


           18              an that's all I have.  Thank you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           20              Mr. Courtright.  First thing, I would be


           21              remiss if I did not wish a happy birthday,


           22              happy 30 something birthday to my twins, Pat


           23              and Megan, on this day, so happy birthday to


           24              them.


           25                      Also, I was going to do it later,






            1              but I might as well do it now, we were going


            2              to vote on some legislation that we voted on


            3              last week dealing with Coney Island, I would


            4              just like to make note that there is a


            5              permit waiting on the desks upstairs to


            6              begin work on Coney Island, the work that


            7              was proposed and it is in the proposal and


            8              it's just waiting pending our approval and


            9              that they will begin work on that project,


           10              so I think that's a very positive sign for


           11              Lackawanna Avenue and the entire Lackawanna


           12              Avenue project.


           13                      Also, someone asked me the other day


           14              about a property at 701 Crown Avenue and I


           15              have not had a chance to respond to them.


           16              They were asking about the condition of the


           17              property and so on and I would just like to


           18              inform them that if has been looked at by


           19              the inspectors and I believe that notices


           20              are being -- were posted on the property for


           21              the property owners who are nonresidents of


           22              Scranton.


           23                      And also, last thing, there will not


           24              be a meeting next week as was asked.  The


           25              next council meeting will be held on






            1              November 18.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B.


            3              FOR INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE - SALE OF




            5              AS SHORT AVENUE, TAX MAP NO. 13420-020-027,


            6              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, TO CARMEN SAITA, 517




            8              18508, FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF $7,000.00.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           10              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be


           11              introduced into it's proper committee.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           15              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           20              ayes have it and so moved.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -




           23              THE EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE




           25              STREET TO IMPROVE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC FOR








            2              STREET.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            4              entertain a motion that Item-5-C be


            5              introduced into it's proper committee.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            9              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           10                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           14              ayes have it and so moved.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A.


           16              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 45,


           17              2008 - AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR




           19              CITY OF SCRANTON TO ACCEPT AND DISBURSE






           22              ("DCED") THROUGH THE ECONOMIC ADVANCEMENT


           23              PROGRAM.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


           25              by Title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A


            2              pass reading by title.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            5              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            6                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           10              ayes have it and so moved.


           11                      MS. GARVEY: 6-B. READING BY TITLE -


           12              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 46, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE


           13              - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER






           16              FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF


           17              COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ("DCED")




           19                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


           20              by Title of Item 6-B, what is your pleasure?


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-B


           22              pass Reading by Title.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           25              those in favor signify by saying aye.






            1                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            5              ayes have it and so moved.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 6-C. READING BY TITLE


            7              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 47, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE


            8              - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 92, 1991,




           10              CITY OF SCRANTON IN THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC &






           13              GRANTS (UDAGS) #91-400" FOR THE PURPOSE OF




           15              UDAG REPAYMENTS."


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


           17              by Title of Item 6-C, what is your pleasure?


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I move that item


           19              6-C pass Reading by Title.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           22              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            2              ayes have it and so moved.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A. FOR


            4              CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES -


            5              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 77, 2008 -


            6              RE-APPOINTMENT OF FRANK J. TUNIS, JR., 101


            7              KELLY WAY, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, AS A




            9              AUTHORITY FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS. MR.


           10              TUNIS' TERM EXPIRED ON JUNE 1, 2007 AND HIS


           11              NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON JUNE 1, 2012.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: As chairperson for the


           13              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           14              passage of Item 7-A.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           17                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  This is just a


           18              related topic, but we had discussed briefly


           19              earlier about the Forum Garage can that


           20              letter go on behalf of council and also can


           21              we include the Adams, I don't know that this


           22              is the correct name, the Adams garage in


           23              that as well?


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Fine.


           25                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please?


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            5                      (Mrs. Gatelli not present.)


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           12              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


           13                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION -




           15              FOR ADOPTION -  RESOLUTION NO. 78, 2008 -






           18              ENTER INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT AND MAKE A LOAN




           20              PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 150.19 IN AN AMOUNT NOT


           21              TO EXCEED $86,000.00 TO JAY'S COMMONS, LP TO


           22              ASSIST AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           24              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           25              Committee on Community Development?






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  As Chairperson for the


            2              Committee on Community Development, I


            3              recommend final passage of Item 7-B.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            6              call, please?


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            8                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           10                      (Mrs. Gatelli not present.)


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           17              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


           18                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION -




           20              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 79, 2008 -


           21              ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE




           23              ("HARB") AND APPROVING THE CERTIFICATE OF


           24              APPROPRIATENESS FOR SDA ARCHITECTS, 321








            1              SCOPE OF WORK AT 534-536 LACKAWANNA AVENUE,






            4              WITH ALUMINUM CAP AND STUCCO FINISH TO BE


            5              PAINTED TO MATCH ADJACENT BUILDING;










           10              AS ORIGINAL; UPPER WALL TO RECEIVE NEW




           12              STUCCO FINISH; NEWLY STRUCTURED ROOF TO


           13              RECEIVE EPDM SURFACE AND NEW ROOF DRAINS;




           15              FILLED-IN WINDOW AREAS AND NEW PAINT.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           17              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           18              Committee on Community Development.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           20              Committee on Community Development, I


           21              recommend final passage of Item 7-C.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           24                      MS. EVANS: I'm very pleased that


           25              there will finally be progress on that end






            1              of the 500 block of Lackawanna Avenue.  I


            2              believe work may begin as son as tomorrow


            3              morning.  We are looking forward to an


            4              opening by Coney Island, a grand opening in


            5              the very near future, and I'm thrilled that


            6              that project is going to include at least


            7              that one business.  Now we have work to see


            8              what happens with Buona Pizza.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Roll call,


           10              please?


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           12                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           14                      (Mrs. Gatelli not present.)


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           21              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION -




           24              FOR ADOPTION -  RESOLUTION NO. 80, 2008 -


           25              ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE








            2              ("HARB") AND APPROVING THE CERTIFICATE OF




            4              CONTRACTORS, 802 NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE,




            6              NEW ROOF WITH ARCHITECTURAL SHINGLES,






            9              SIGNS AT 225 VINE STREET, SCRANTON,


           10              PENNSYLVANIA.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           12              recommendation of the Chair for the


           13              Committee on Community Development?


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chair for the


           15              Committee on Community Development, I


           16              recommend final passage of Item 7-E.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           19              call, please?


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           21                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           23                      (Ms. Gatelli not present.)


           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.






            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            5              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 7-E.  FOR CONSIDERATION




            8              - FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 81, 2008 -


            9              ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE




           11              ("HARB") AND APPROVING THE CERTIFICATE OF




           13              2, BOX 2069 NICHOLSON, PENNSYLVANIA FOR


           14              INSTALLATION OF A SINGLE-FACED, NON-LIT


           15              2X5X1 SIGN MOUNTED TO BRICK FAÇADE AND A


           16              1X2½ TWO-SIDED ALUMINUM SIGN ATTACHED TO


           17              ENTRANCE GATE AT 302 PENN AVENUE, SCRANTON,


           18              PENNSYLVANIA.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           20              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           21              Committee on Community Development?


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           23              Committee on Community Development, I


           24              recommend final passage of Item 7-E.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


            2              call, please.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            4                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            6                      (Mrs. Gatelli not present.)


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           13              Item 7-E legally and lawfully adopted.


           14                      MS. GARVEY: 7-F. FOR CONSIDERATION


           15              BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY -  FOR


           16              ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 82, 2008 -










           21              CANAAN") AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF THE


           22              CITY OF SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA ("SCRANTON


           23              POLICE DEPARTMENT") FOR USE OF ITS FIRING


           24              RANGE.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the






            1              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            2              Committee on Public Safety?


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Chairperson for


            4              the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend


            5              final passage of Item 7-F.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Second.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            8              call, please?


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           10                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           12                      (Ms. Gatelli not present.)


           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           19              Item 7-F legally and lawfully adopted.


           20              Motion for adjournment?


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you for your


           23              participation.














            3                     C E R T I F I C A T E




            5        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            6   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            7   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            8   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            9   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


           10   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

           14                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER