1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                Tuesday, October 7, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania











































                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with


           12              the reading of the minutes.


           13                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  No


           14              business at this time.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Any announcements?  Mrs.


           16              Gatelli?


           17                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.  Well, the first


           18              thing I would like to announce is tomorrow


           19              evening, Wednesday, October 8th, and


           20              Thursday, October 9th, is the St. Anthony's


           21              Church on Wood Street, their annual


           22              spaghetti and meatball dinner.


           23                      The City of Scranton and the Unico


           24              are sponsoring their Tram of Terror again


           25              this year.  It's on Friday and Saturday,






            1              October 10th and 11th, Friday and Saturday,


            2              October 17th and 18th, and Friday and


            3              Saturday October 24th and 25th.  The cost is


            4              $5.00 and children under 12 is free.


            5                      And the last thing is Neighborhood


            6              Housing Services is having a foreclosure


            7              counseling kick-off, Thursday, October 9th,


            8              at 11:00 in the morning for anyone that can


            9              make it.  It's at 709 East Market Street,


           10              Senator Robert Casey, Junior, will join the


           11              board of Neighborhood Housing Services,


           12              staff and partners, in a major regional


           13              foreclosure mitigation effort.  I would


           14              suggest that anyone whose mortgage is


           15              falling behind or in danger of losing their


           16              homes, they are a nonprofit housing


           17              counseling and lending service and they will


           18              be available to help you with your problems.


           19              Neighborhood Housing Services' phone number


           20              is 558-2490, and again, they are located at


           21              709 East Market Street, and that's all I


           22              have.  Thank you, Mr. McGoff.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mrs.


           24              Evans?


           25                      MS. EVANS: Geneses Wildlife Center






            1              will conduct a Fall Fun Fair at Nay Aug Park


            2              in Scranton, Saturday, October 18 in front


            3              of the Wildlife Center from 12 to 4 p.m.


            4              All money raised will go to the animals.


            5              There will be games, hot dogs, coffee, hot


            6              chocolate, pony rides, so please bring your


            7              children and have a wonderful day at the


            8              Wildlife Center.


            9                      Also, the public is cordially


           10              invited to the annual Dunmore Cemetery Tour


           11              on Sunday, October 12, from 2 to 4 p.m.


           12              Julie Espe of the Lackawanna Historical


           13              Society has put together a spectacular show


           14              of the famous and not so famous persons


           15              buried in the cemetery.  Julie has


           16              researched and written all 22 scenes.


           17              Julie's actors make the deceased come to


           18              life to entertain and inform you about how


           19              they lived their lives and in the area long


           20              ago before most of us were born.  What a


           21              wonderful way to spend an enjoyable Autumn


           22              afternoon.  Again, it takes place on Sunday,


           23              October 12, at the Dunmore Cemetery at


           24              2:00 p.m.  The tour starts at the West


           25              Warren Street entrance.  No admission, but a






            1              donation would be appreciated.


            2                      And, finally, beginning November 1,


            3              2008, Comcast will be adjusting our prices


            4              once again according to C. Elizabeth


            5              Sterner, senior director of government and


            6              community affairs for Comcast.  Area cable


            7              subscribers have endured several rate


            8              increases from Comcast as we all know.  Many


            9              citizens are requesting that the city


           10              consider other cable providers in it's


           11              forthcoming selection process, and I must


           12              say that I strongly support that suggestion.


           13              That's it.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  I would


           15              just like to mention this Sunday, this


           16              coming Sunday is I believe the 13th running


           17              of the Steamtown Marathon.  Unfortunately,


           18              registration closed last Sunday so that it's


           19              too late if you were thinking of running.  I


           20              know that disappoints a number of people,


           21              but just for your information's sake that


           22              will mean a number of downtown streets will


           23              be closed Sunday.  It may make travel


           24              through the city a little bit complicated


           25              for a short time, but it's a great event.






            1              If you would like to see people who are


            2              completely exhausted and ready to pass out,


            3              you know, get down to Washington Avenue on


            4              Sunday morning, again, it's a great event


            5              and brings a lot of people to the City of


            6              Scranton and an enjoyable day, and that is


            7              all that I have.  FOURTH ORDER.  CITIZENS'


            8              PARTICIPATION.  Ozzie Quinn.


            9                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'


           10              Association.  5-D, you have a resolution


           11              authorizing the mayor to enter into a


           12              memorandum of agreement between the US


           13              Department of Interior and OECD to undertake


           14              and manage construction activities at


           15              Steamtown Park.  What does undertake mean?


           16              Does it involve money?  What are they going


           17              to do there?  Does anybody have any idea?


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: I believe it's part of


           19              the park project for Lackawanna Avenue.


           20                      MR. QUINN:  Was that in the


           21              redevelopment plan that was an urban -- that


           22              was designated as a State Urban


           23              Redevelopment, under the State Urban


           24              Redevelopment, and I was wondering if that's


           25              in the boundaries or also is this something






            1              new that you would have to go back and amend


            2              the plan?  I never saw a plan.  Did you see


            3              the plan?


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: I didn't see the whole


            5              plan, but I do not believe that this is --


            6                      MR. QUINN:  Well, don't say yo don't


            7              know unless you saw the plan.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, I'm telling you


            9              what --


           10                      MR. QUINN:  I'll write the state.


           11              I'll write the state then.  Thank you.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: This is why I didn't


           13              want to answer him.


           14                      MR. QUINN:  I don't want no


           15              surmises, please, there is too much money


           16              involved here.  If nobody has saw this plan


           17              or nobody knows if there is any money on it


           18              how can you introduce it?  This is bizarre.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: We have to be a conduit


           20              for anything that goes on whether it's


           21              through the state or the Urban


           22              Redevelopment, so even if it's already done


           23              we still have to be the conduit.


           24                      MR. QUINN:  Please, we only have a


           25              few minutes to talk here --






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Well, then don't ask


            2              questions if you don't want your answers.


            3                      MR. QUINN: Please.  We only -- we


            4              only have a few minutes to talk here and we


            5              have a situation where nobody knows what we


            6              are going to approve and it's a resolution,


            7              it's read twice.  Now, if you don't know


            8              what's going on, I mean, what's the use of


            9              citizens' participation?


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  Ozzie, it's a piece of


           11              the Steamtown National Historic site that


           12              they are giving to the project.


           13                      MR. QUINN:  Is OECD undertaking it?


           14              Is money involved?


           15                      MS. GATELLI: No.


           16                      MR. QUINN:  It says that.


           17                      MS. GATELLI:  It's just flowing


           18              through OECD because federal money has to


           19              flow through the city.


           20                      MR. QUINN: So OECD is actually


           21              administrating the money of the --


           22                      Ms. GATELLI: -- from the federal


           23              government, yes.


           24                      MR. QUINN: From the federal


           25              government.






            1                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.


            2                      MR. QUINN:  And it is has nothing to


            3              do with the OECD allocation that comes to


            4              CDBG?


            5                      MS. GATELLI: No.  No. Absolutely


            6              not.


            7                      MR. QUINN:  And it's a part and


            8              parcel --


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  You can have this


           10              backup.


           11                      MR. QUINN: -- of the Urban Renewal


           12              Plan.


           13                      MS. GATELLI: Do you want the backup


           14              after the meeting, I'll give you a copy.


           15                      MR. QUINN: Yeah.  The Urban Renewal


           16              Plan, too; right?  You know, the reason I


           17              ask that is because, you know, you get


           18              federal money, again, our federal money,


           19              state money, local money, it's all


           20              taxpayers' money.  That $700 million,


           21              billion dollar plan, bailout, that's


           22              taxpayers' money, and the last time we even


           23              had a peek at what we owe, the principal,


           24              was a 2006 audit.  The 2007 audit was under


           25              the Home Rule Charter, which is supposed to






            1              be the law that runs -- the city is governed


            2              by was due in May.  It's now October and we


            3              still haven't seen the 2007 audit.  We don't


            4              know what we owe, okay?  And my guesstimate,


            5              again, is about $150 million in principal,


            6              that's without the authorities, so we are


            7              talking lots of money here, you know, and


            8              I'm little concerned about this thing.


            9              Where is this audit?  What's holding this


           10              audit up?


           11                      MS. GATELLI: The only thing I'm


           12              aware of now is I think we got the parking


           13              authority and we got NCC and we just


           14              received the Sewer Authority.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: The parking authority we


           16              did get.


           17                      MS. GATELLI: See, some of these


           18              authorities their audits aren't due when


           19              ours are due, so, it makes our audit be


           20              late.  I mean, the Sewer Authority I know


           21              theirs isn't due until October, so how can


           22              we do our audit if we don't have their audit


           23              and theirs isn't due.


           24                      MR. QUINN:  Well, then amend the


           25              Home Rule Charter.






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  We really should


            2              because it isn't right.  We can't do our


            3              audit with all of those other taxing bodies.


            4                      MR. QUINN:  Yeah.  One other thing,


            5              too, and you know, I don't like to pick on


            6              these people they are going to be


            7              reappointed to the Housing Authority and the


            8              fact is that in February when the HUD said


            9              that the former executive director because


           10              he was indicted by the federal government


           11              cannot receive HUD money, may I finish this


           12              for a few seconds?  Okay, and I attended the


           13              Housing Authority meeting and they said that


           14              he had time coming, vacation time, overtime


           15              and that he was being paid with the money


           16              from the city, okay, that's the taxpayers'


           17              money.  It's eight months and I think, you


           18              know, you should look into this, I don't


           19              know how you can be approving people when


           20              they are spending the taxpayers' money on


           21              somebody that is indicted.  Thank you.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.


           23              Les Spindler.


           24                      MR. SPINDLER:  Good evening,


           25              Council.  Les Spindler, city resident,






            1              homeowner.  I didn't make the last two


            2              meetings, Mrs. Gatelli, I think it was three


            3              weeks ago you were reading that ordinance


            4              about the outdoor burning, and I just have a


            5              question, I didn't understand some of it,


            6              are those outdoor pits are they legal or


            7              illegal?


            8                      MS. GATELLI: They're only legal if


            9              they have a screen and a flue, which is like


           10              a chimney, and even if they are legitimate


           11              if they are causing a problem to a neighbor


           12              they are to call the police or the fire


           13              inspector.


           14                      MR. SPINDLER: Okay.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: And they can be asked


           16              to stop burning.


           17                      MR. SPINDLER: Well, it won't be a


           18              problem until next summer now, we're in


           19              winter, they don't burn.  Okay, thank you.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  You are welcome.


           21                      MR. SPINDLER: Is there a reason why


           22              the caucus was cancelled tonight with CDTV?


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: It was cancelled by the


           24              people from ECTV.


           25                      MR. SPINDLER: Oh, I wonder why.






            1              Because I heard Chris Doherty ordered them


            2              not to show up, and on that subject I think


            3              it was back in July that Chris Doherty said


            4              the $10,000 given to CDTV was to clean up


            5              blight in the basement of the church and


            6              then in the Doherty newsletter on


            7              September 24 it stated that the $10,000 was


            8              used to buy a digital server.  To me that's


            9              a misuse of federal funds.  They used OECD


           10              funds to not to clean of blight, they bought


           11              a digital server right in this paper on the


           12              24th of September.  I think there should be


           13              an investigation into them.


           14                      And another thing, there was a


           15              question, I think Mrs. Gatelli you said a


           16              few weeks ago, why do meetings have to be


           17              live?  Well, I think there is a number of


           18              reasons, one, is I have an announcement to


           19              make tonight about a meeting this time which


           20              is nobody going to hear until tomorrow


           21              night.  I'm leaving here right after I speak


           22              there is a meeting at the Tripp Park


           23              Community Center to organize a crime watch


           24              and now nobody is going to know about it, I


           25              wasn't here last week to announce it, but we






            1              had one two weeks ago and there was a


            2              terrific turnout.


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  Do you have a phone


            4              number that we can give out?


            5                      MR. SPINDLER: No, I don't.  When we


            6              have a meeting again I'll come down here and


            7              announce it.


            8                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.  I was in touch


            9              with people in Tripp's Park.


           10                      MR. SPINDLER: We had a great


           11              turnout.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: They asked for bylaws


           13              from the South Side Neighborhood.


           14                      MR. SPINDLER: Lieutenant Numecki


           15              came and spoke and asked questions and it


           16              was great.  That's why if this was live


           17              tonight people could have heard it tonight.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Find out when the


           19              meetings are and we will be sure to announce


           20              them.


           21                      MR. SPINDLER:  I will.  Who is


           22              responsible for enforcing the smoking ban,


           23              does anybody know, because I was at


           24              Whistle's Sunday watching the football game


           25              and on their door it says "Smoking






            1              permitted."  I asked the bartender when I


            2              went in and she said, "Les than 20 percent


            3              of our sales are food."


            4                      I refuse to believe that.  I have


            5              been there many times, and I think that more


            6              than 20 percent of their sales are food.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Les, is this the first


            8              time you and I can honestly say we totally


            9              agree on something.  There is no way that


           10              that is accurate, but the good thing is that


           11              after a few months you can track the sales


           12              of people's food to find out actually how


           13              much they are buying --


           14                      MR. SPINDLER:  I understand that,


           15              but who is supposed to do that?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Actually, I believe it


           17              would be the police, the police right now,


           18              it is enforced by our police.


           19                      MS. GATELLI: And there is a hotline.


           20              I know there's a hotline.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: There is a hotline, but


           22              eventually I think we are going to have to


           23              incorporate that into our other departments,


           24              I would think the Seitzinger and those guys


           25              would have to be the people that do it, but






            1              that's what we are working on now, but I


            2              agree with you.


            3                      MS. SPINDLER: Okay.  Thank you.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  We'll get you that


            5              number for next week.  I'm interested myself


            6              in that hotline number where you can report


            7              people that are violating the Clean Indoor


            8              Air Act.


            9                      MR. SPINDLER: I'm sure everybody


           10              either saw it or saw it on the news that the


           11              skit on Saturday Night Live about Scranton,


           12              they didn't speak to highly of our city, I


           13              know it was all for fun, and I think they


           14              over did it a little bit, but I think a lot


           15              of it was true.  Nobody wants to live in


           16              this city anymore.  Everybody is moving out.


           17              I think the only one that wants to come into


           18              the city is that black bear that keeps


           19              showing up here.  We keep finding it in the


           20              tree.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Oh, the bear?  I


           22              thought you said mayor.


           23                      MR. SPINDLER:  They should the bear


           24              up in the treehouse, he would have a lot of


           25              fun up there.  The next thing, my last






            1              thing, somebody asked me to make this


            2              announcement, Sunday, at St. Stanislaus


            3              Elementary School there is a Polish food


            4              festival and it's 530 South Street, it's


            5              from 12 to 6 this Sunday, October 12, that's


            6              all I have.  They just asked me to make that


            7              announcement.  Thank you.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.


            9                      MS. EVANS: Just one thing though I


           10              wanted to add to that that maybe


           11              Mr. Courtright can help us with, I do know


           12              of other city residents who had problems


           13              with neighbors burning throughout the summer


           14              months in those bowls and similar situations


           15              and they had called the police and the


           16              police when they arrived had told the


           17              individuals there is nothing that they could


           18              do about it, there is actually nothing on


           19              the books to prevent that, so maybe if you,


           20              Mr. Courtright, could pass along the


           21              information we were given so that in the


           22              future, you know, in the better weather


           23              months when this starts to occur again the


           24              police will know that it is actually part of


           25              an ordinance.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think what we need


            2              to do is see if Captain Graziano can deal


            3              with Mark Seitzinger and there is so many


            4              ordinances in this city that the police


            5              can't know them all, and this is one is


            6              relatively new.  I think what they can do is


            7              if they get called out they can make a


            8              notation of it and then have Mr. Seitzinger


            9              possibly cite them or maybe the police


           10              themselves can cite them.  I've got to be


           11              perfectly honest for you, I don't think they


           12              know exactly what they can do, so I'll speak


           13              with Captain Graziano and see if he can't


           14              talk to Mark Seitzinger and get something


           15              worked out.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Barbara O'Malley.


           17                      MS. O'MALLEY:  Good evening.  For


           18              most of the past decade the residents of


           19              Scranton and Lackawanna County who are


           20              Comcast subscribers were able to see a rich


           21              offering of local government bodies in


           22              action.  The meetings of the Planning


           23              Commission, Redevelopment Authority, Prison


           24              Board, Sewer Authority, Scranton School


           25              Board, Recreation Authority, Zoning






            1              Commission, County Commissioners and, of


            2              course, the weekly meetings of this body,


            3              Scranton City Council, were broadcast.  Most


            4              of these meetings were shown live with four


            5              or five replays at times chosen with the


            6              convenience of the citizens in mind.  Any


            7              citizen who wanted to know what his or her


            8              government was doing had the opportunity to


            9              watch.


           10                      Things certainly have changed.


           11              Since Scranton Today was replaced by ECTV as


           12              the operator of Channel 61, the only


           13              governmental meetings shown are Scranton


           14              City Council, the meetings of the County


           15              Commissioners and an occasional board


           16              meeting.  No meetings are cable cast live


           17              and the replays are few and far between.  In


           18              fact, city council receives only one airing


           19              in prime time.


           20                      So much for an informed electorate,


           21              so much for open government and so much for


           22              democracy.  ECTV has maintained from the


           23              beginning that replays, particularly of


           24              council, would be severely limited.  In


           25              fact, this approach seems to be a matter of






            1              pride with them.  Why is this?  Do they have


            2              so much programming that council can only be


            3              squeezed in three times a week?  This can't


            4              be the reason as any channel surfer will


            5              tell you.  For the vast majority of the day


            6              there is no programming on Channel 61 and


            7              sister station Channel 62.  Why the lack of


            8              replays?  Perhaps the management of ECTV


            9              believes it is preferable to have nothing on


           10              rather than additional airing of council


           11              meetings.  This, of course, flies in the


           12              face of reason.  The availability of


           13              frequent prime time rebroadcasts allows an


           14              additional citizens to see the meeting,


           15              citizens who might not otherwise have that


           16              opportunity and if a viewer has already


           17              viewed the meeting, they have many other


           18              program options available to them, no harm


           19              done.


           20                      Perhaps the management of ECTV


           21              believes in only lip service to the concept


           22              of an informed electorate.  Certainly, no


           23              sane individual would argue that limiting


           24              replays increases a citizen's opportunity to


           25              be informed.  I think we all know that






            1              limiting replays, in fact, limits citizens'


            2              awareness of the workings of their


            3              government and the crowning irony, of


            4              course, is that this station is now fully


            5              funded by taxpayers' dollars, my dollars and


            6              yours.


            7                      So, this is the deal, the new deal,


            8              if you are a citizen interested in your


            9              government and you are a viewer subscribing


           10              to Comcast you will simply have to settle


           11              for less, much less, and you will have to


           12              pay for the privilege.


           13                      Now, at a recent council meeting Mr.


           14              Courtright quoted a Comcast technician to


           15              the effect that live council meetings could


           16              be resumed almost immediately using the


           17              infrastructure that is still in place.


           18              This, of course, would require the


           19              cooperation of Scranton Today.  Well, I


           20              can't speak for the Board of Scranton Today,


           21              I can say that as one board member I would


           22              be willing to consider such a proposal in


           23              order for the citizens of this city to be


           24              able to see their government in action


           25              that's it.  Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            2              Mrs. O'Malley.  Jim Stucker.


            3                      MR. STUCKER:  Hello, Mr. Courtright.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  How are doing, Jim.


            5                      MR. STUCKER:  We need a policeman up


            6              over where I live on Adams Avenue on those


            7              four corners.  We have people walking across


            8              in the daytime, school kids, who have to


            9              walk across and it's -- some people go too


           10              fast through the light and everything.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  What do you need,


           12              Jim?


           13                      MR. STUCKER:  We need a police


           14              officer at the four corners.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  All right, we'll


           16              see what we can do.


           17                      MR. STUCKER: And I was up and down


           18              the streets last week walking and I seen a


           19              lot of garbage, couches, beds in front of


           20              people's houses.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: I did, too.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mrs. Fanucci agrees


           23              with you.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yeah, they were


           25              putting out garbage way too early and not on






            1              the days that they were picking up and I


            2              noticed it also all over the city and it's


            3              something we might need to start enforcing


            4              because it is, you know, with the rodent


            5              problems and other things this is not


            6              something we should be doing.  I agree with


            7              you.


            8                      MR. STUCKER:  I'm afraid if they


            9              putting mattresses out there and I'm afraid


           10              something is going to throw a match.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: I never thought of


           12              that.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Right.


           14                      MR. STUCKER:  They should have some


           15              guys drop a dumpster in front of a house and


           16              throw it all in.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, Jim.


           18                      MR. STUCKER: I'm feeling a little


           19              better than I did.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That's good.  You


           21              made out okay at the hospital?


           22                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Good.


           24                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah.  Okay?


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay, Jim.  Thank you






            1              very much.  Take care of yourself.  Joe


            2              Talimini.


            3                      MR. TALIMINI: Joe Talimini, City of


            4              Scranton.  Several months ago when I brought


            5              this subject up before one of our tenants of


            6              Washington West was killed right across the


            7              street in a wheelchair and nothing has ever


            8              been done about it.  I don't know what the


            9              police department is doing, no charges were


           10              filed or anything else, but she was struck


           11              while she was in a crosswalk.


           12                      Today one of our other residents was


           13              also wheelchair bound and met with the mayor


           14              and they safety commissioner, he was stuck


           15              on two occasions in the ruts getting out on


           16              the sidewalks.  Now, he was stuck there.


           17              The wheel was spinning because he was in a


           18              ditch and he couldn't get out of it.  Now,


           19              this man is totally incapacitated, he can't


           20              get out of his wheelchair, so I think it's


           21              incumbent upon this council to do something.


           22              If it's cornering the mayor and hitting him


           23              in the head with a hammer, but these things


           24              have got to be repaired because these people


           25              are responsible for their own chairs.  And,






            1              God forbid, we should lose another tenant


            2              and I guarantee you there will be a


            3              revolution in this town and that will


            4              include you people as well as the mayor


            5              because they have had it up to here with


            6              this and, I mean, it's a constant thing that


            7              these people cannot transit these crosswalks


            8              because they are in dire need, all you have


            9              to do is walk right across the street and


           10              you will see what I mean.


           11                      I don't know what the state is


           12              doing, what the Department of Transportation


           13              is doing.  I talked to one of our


           14              representatives that was on the


           15              transportation committee about North


           16              Washington Avenue, he was going to get back


           17              to me, but I don't think he will be getting


           18              back to me for quite awhile, hopefully, he


           19              won't get back to me at all, but these


           20              streets are in dire need of repairs and this


           21              is one of the major factors we have here.


           22                   Secondly, with regard to ECTV, I am


           23              dead set against renewing the contract with


           24              Comcast.  Now, I lived in an area which was


           25              just below Atlanta where we got 110






            1              stations, including HBO and Showtime and our


            2              total bill was $29.50 a month.  This was a


            3              franchise which was run by the city and I


            4              don't know why there is a disparity of about


            5              $50 a month extra for me to live in Scranton


            6              watching TV as opposed to living down there


            7              which is a much more metropolitan area, so I


            8              think we should really investigate the


            9              renewal of the franchise with Comcast.  I


           10              think we can get a much better deal.


           11                   Mr. Courtright, as you well know, the


           12              police department is overtaxed.  I don't


           13              know what the hell is going on, but I listen


           14              to that scanner 24 hours a day and when they


           15              have more than two or three calls they have


           16              to try to break somebody away to go


           17              someplace else and, I mean, the situation is


           18              ridiculous now.  The crime is increasing in


           19              this community even though some people would


           20              like to sweep it under the rug and say we


           21              don't have any crime.  We had a man that


           22              just died, we had a man who was stabbed down


           23              by the Gino Merli Center at 7:30 in the


           24              morning.  We had a stabbing, I believe it


           25              was the same evening, right around the






            1              corner from the United Neighborhood Center.


            2              We had shots fired over Midtown apartments.


            3              We had a man with a gun at Coopers.  We have


            4              had all kinds of people roaming the streets


            5              up there.  We are working with the Housing


            6              Authority now to get the security hours


            7              changed, hopefully, they will go through


            8              with it, but if not they will hearing from


            9              us again.  But, it's a situation in this


           10              town which really needs looking into it.


           11              It's beyond the point of just an occasional


           12              happening, it's a daily happening.


           13                      The University of Scranton is


           14              another problem.  Now, first of all, I know


           15              they can't teach a course in common sense


           16              101, but having those hot dogs stands up on


           17              Mulberry Street and having those kids walk


           18              back and forth across the street when they


           19              crosswalks there, they walk right out in


           20              front of the car especially at night with


           21              dark clothing on.  We have our police


           22              department up there breaking up fights going


           23              all over the Hill section and it's all


           24              involving parties -- the University of


           25              Scranton has their own security force I






            1              believe, I don't know what they do, but they


            2              have it.  We are still questioning what they


            3              do.  It's a definite need up there.  I mean,


            4              far more police action is needed.


            5                      As for ECTV, I recall Commissioner


            6              Munchak coming down here as a private


            7              citizen on his own, nobody asked him to come


            8              down, he came on his own, and he pointed out


            9              very clearly, and this man incidentally is


           10              an accountant, that the entire proposal was


           11              flawed, that none of the figures matched.  I


           12              find it hard to believe that astute


           13              businessmen would come into this town and


           14              live here, that's the funny part, try to get


           15              a business started without putting a dime


           16              out of their own pocket.  They want the city


           17              to fund them.


           18                      Now, this would be very nice.  I


           19              would love if it I could come in here and


           20              say I want to open a business and


           21              I need $10,000 to buy equipment and I need


           22              another $90,000 later on plus another


           23              $125,000 for payroll.  I mean, I'm missing


           24              out someplace.  Maybe OECD is hiding


           25              something from me.  If there is that kind of






            1              money available for people who can afford to


            2              get into the business then I sure as hell


            3              would like to have some of it, too, because


            4              I can't afford it.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Talimini.


            6                      MR. TALIMINI: Incidentally, one


            7              other thing, I would like you to declare


            8              either the black bear or the skunk as the


            9              national animal for the City of Scranton,


           10              because we have an abundance of both.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           12                      MS. HUBBARD: We have more skunks


           13              than bears.


           14                      MR. DOBSON:  Good evening, Council.


           15              Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton and member


           16              of the Taxpayers' Association.  I'm glad to


           17              see on 5-B and C that we are finally trying


           18              to get someone on our Ethics Commission.


           19              One of our members have been unable to get a


           20              hearing for months now and hopefully that


           21              will change before things gets ugly for all


           22              parties concerned.


           23                      On 5-D I have a question, will it be


           24              open to all, this park?  It will definitely


           25              be open to all.






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.


            2                      MR. DOBSON: Like Nay Aug or --


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.


            4                      MR. DOBSON:  Well, that's wonderful


            5              and I know where it is, it's the old


            6              computer train track behind the 500 block of


            7              Lackawanna Avenue and it is it need of


            8              renovations, but hopefully the federal


            9              government will help us out there a little


           10              bit even though they can't seem to help


           11              themselves lately, anything but your money.


           12                      On 6-A, 6-B and 6-C, can anybody


           13              explain to me what that's all about?  I


           14              thought we didn't sell properties of people


           15              that were tax delinquent.


           16                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, we do.


           17                      MR. DOBSON: We do?


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Oh, absolutely we do.


           19              We always sell tax delinquent property.


           20              It's a quite lengthy process and it takes a


           21              long time and some people aren't patient,


           22              but, yes, we do sell tax delinquent


           23              property.


           24                      MR. DOBSON:  Because we have on here


           25              for $2,000, one for $8,000 an done for






            1              $5,000.  I hope these people are given an


            2              opportunity to make amends on these taxes


            3              where if they come up with and it cancels


            4              the deal.


            5                      MS. GATELLI: You mean the original


            6              owner?


            7                      MR. DOBSON: Yes.


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, during the


            9              process the original owner is given the


           10              option to pay it and nine out of ten times


           11              they don't because they owe so much.


           12              Sometimes they are 20, 30, 40 years old, so


           13              the original owners that's why they are tax


           14              delinquent they don't want the property


           15              anymore.  But, yes, they are given the


           16              opportunity in Court.


           17                      MR. DOBSON: All right.  And then


           18              7-A, of course, related to the other, the


           19              park.  And that's about it, other than on


           20              7-B, C and D, hopefully once again these


           21              people will have a clean situation coming


           22              into there -- or staying on there and we


           23              won't have anymore alarming situations where


           24              records are being hauled out, indictments


           25              are being handled out or whatever, we don't






            1              need that anymore.


            2                      There is one other thing that came


            3              to my attention at Nay Aug Park, I see the


            4              workers working away and they seem to do


            5              their jobs pretty well and they should be


            6              commended for that, but the concession stand


            7              on Wednesday nights, now, I was up there


            8              during the Wednesday night concerts last


            9              year and you would stand approximately


           10              15 minutes in line just to be waited on, and


           11              that's okay.  This year they weren't open.


           12              I can't imagine why somebody would be handed


           13              a concession stand like that when they don't


           14              plan to stay open especially when there is


           15              money to be made there.  You can't tell me


           16              if I have to wait 15 minutes in line and


           17              spend $20 because we skipped our dinner and


           18              went up to the concert and decided to buy


           19              hamburgers and hotdogs and pizza or


           20              whatever, why this man can't stay open.  So,


           21              this year has gone by, but next year I would


           22              really love to see the concession stand open


           23              on Wednesday nights.  It would help keep it


           24              more live as far as I'm concerned and people


           25              should be able to purchase things and get up






            1              there without or worrying about getting in


            2              there and getting dishes thrown away and all


            3              of that baloney, you know, to rush up there,


            4              because like I said, with everybody standing


            5              in line for 15 or 20 minutes, you know, it's


            6              kind of hard to tell me they make money.


            7              Thank you and have a great night.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.


            9              Other speakers?


           10                      MS. DOLAN: Good evening, Council.


           11              Good evening, citizens of Scranton.  Donna


           12              Dolan, homeowner, resident of the Plot.  I


           13              was pleased to see on the repeat of last


           14              week's council meeting that progress is


           15              being made in addressing our skunk problem.


           16              I first of all would like to thank


           17              Mrs. Evans for initiating the proposal to


           18              send a letter to the mayor.  I'd like to


           19              thank all of council members for unanimously


           20              supporting that and, of course, I thank the


           21              mayor for listening to you.  It just goes to


           22              show what can happen when there is agreement


           23              among council members and agreement between


           24              council administration.  Ever the optimists


           25              that I am, I would hope the concerns of






            1              other citizens may have the same positive


            2              cooperation and results.  Thank you.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.


            4                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.


            5              The first thing I have here is I think


            6              Mrs. Fanucci said something that may have


            7              been important today she talked about


            8              accountability, and I really think that's


            9              something that's seriously lacking here in


           10              the city for a very long time.  I think the


           11              president of the tax group brought up


           12              something else that's pretty important and


           13              that seems to be the audits, and for the


           14              life of me I can't understand how these


           15              things could be out of sync.  All of the


           16              audits should be done at the same time


           17              because it would help to let the residents


           18              be informed of that actual fiscal situation


           19              of the city instead of waiting and waiting


           20              and waiting and never really having any


           21              answers.


           22                      I can understand why ECTV didn't


           23              come here tonight.  How can you defend the


           24              service we are receiving and how can you


           25              defend the mayor's move to do the things he






            1              has done here?  There is no open government


            2              in Scranton, there is closed government.


            3              There is government that benefits the few at


            4              the expense of the many.


            5                      I took a little time today driving


            6              through the city and I have to say that


            7              there are some very beautiful homes for sale


            8              which people have put a ton of money into.


            9              What would ever induce somebody to move out


           10              of a city when they have sunk as much money


           11              into some of these homes as they obviously


           12              have?  I mean, there is homes tucked in this


           13              city that are just breathtaking when you


           14              look at them.  All of the money that's been


           15              spent and they want to leave and then, of


           16              course, there is droves of other homes for


           17              sale where there has actually been quite


           18              possibly a lack of maintenance possibly


           19              because the owner is either economically


           20              underemployed or they are just too old to


           21              maintain the property.


           22                      But I think the underlying problem


           23              is as Mrs. Fanucci brought up


           24              accountability, and that accountability is a


           25              total lack of accountability by the elected






            1              officials of this city, and that seems to be


            2              in my opinion the reason why ECTV is here.


            3                   Now, when Mrs. Gatelli was president of


            4              council, I remember being locked outside


            5              when I was the first person on the speaker's


            6              list.  I can't understand that?  Don't we


            7              want the residents to come here and present


            8              their arguments to council?  Don't the


            9              citizens have a right to speak to their


           10              government?  Haven't the residents of this


           11              city spoke to their government for an


           12              extremely long time and hasn't the


           13              government itself came forward with many


           14              promises?  We are going to revitalize this


           15              city.  We are going to create jobs.  We


           16              haven't revitalized this city.  We have


           17              taken money and given it to connected people


           18              and it's really injured the people that


           19              aren't connected.


           20                      The infrastructure in this city is a


           21              complete mess.  The decisions that need to


           22              be made need to be made by this council and


           23              the mayor.  How can this chief executive of


           24              this city who rammed the ballram through the


           25              Scranton Sewer Authority with American






            1              Anglican defend that?  How can this mayor


            2              possibly defend all of the borrowing he has


            3              done?  That's my question.  Maybe the mayor


            4              would care to come here and answer those


            5              questions.  I remember he stood at this


            6              podium once and I questioned him because I


            7              came up and spoke before him, he had nothing


            8              to say and this is the chief executive


            9              officer?


           10                      So, I think that for once, not for


           11              once, on other occasions Mrs. Fanucci has


           12              said things that were very relevant, but


           13              tonight she probably said the most relevant


           14              statement that I have heard in this council


           15              chamber for a very long time.  It all comes


           16              to accountability and my question is when


           17              are the people who make the decisions in


           18              this city going to be accountable, and I


           19              think that it may never happen or it will


           20              happen like what's happened here at Wall


           21              Street.  Because to be honest with you, this


           22              city is in worse shape than Wall Street and


           23              my question is, is the federal government


           24              going to come in here and bail us out or


           25              should we just renig on our bonds and force






            1              the government to pay for them because


            2              bluntly the residents are sucked dry.  So,


            3              remember, accountability is important and as


            4              a governing body please give it a try.


            5              Thank you.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Morgan.


            7                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South


            8              Scranton resident.  Toast Master's


            9              International, which is a very


           10              well-respected worldwide public speaking


           11              organization states that the person at the


           12              podium is the speaker and everybody else are


           13              the listeners, and I really would hope that


           14              that would be applied here at city council.


           15              The person at the podium is the speaker,


           16              that's why that person has the podium.


           17              Everyone else are the listeners.  We all


           18              have our time to speak.  Some people get


           19              more than others.  Council can speak for as


           20              long as they want whenever they want, so,


           21              please, try not to interrupt speakers


           22              anymore.  It would go a long way to make


           23              these meetings a lot more sociable and


           24              friendly.


           25                      I am curious, who is at fault?






            1              Christopher A. Doherty, city council,


            2              Taxpayers' Association, someone must accept


            3              the responsibility for the City of Scranton


            4              being distressed for 17 years and the


            5              Recovery Plan not being implemented.  We


            6              know that Mr. Austin Burke placed the blame


            7              on speakers that attend city council


            8              meetings for businesses not moving into the


            9              city.  So, maybe the speakers are


           10              responsible for the Recovery Plan not being


           11              implemented and contracts not being


           12              approved.  Possibly the Legion of Doom.


           13              They should never have spent $6 for these


           14              t-shirts.


           15                      ECTV, where are on Mr. Darcy, Mr.


           16              Migliore and Mayor Doherty?  It seems that


           17              no one shows up when they are invited or


           18              subpoenaed before Scranton City Council.  I


           19              guess council members know how Rodney


           20              Dangerfield felt.  Don't you just love it


           21              when a plan comes together?


           22                      The majority three did not let me


           23              down.  They didn't let the community down by


           24              voting three to two bail out mayor countries


           25              Doherty out again.  We were he told that the






            1              city has to be saved, just like the country


            2              has to be saved by the bailout.  Also, we


            3              were informed that in order not to raise


            4              Scranton taxes, the borrowing/refinancing


            5              had to be approved.  Now that this


            6              borrowing/refinancing has been approved I


            7              hope that the streets will plowed this


            8              winter, contracts are signed, fire stations


            9              are not closed, firefighters are not


           10              terminated, beat officers are on the streets


           11              year round, new police cruisers are on the


           12              street, distressed status is removed,


           13              unemployment reduced from 6.7 percent, new


           14              jobs that pay more than minimum wage are


           15              created.  Scranton's wage tax is reduced


           16              from 3.4, the third highest in the state.


           17              If council members would not interrupt


           18              speakers it would surely cut down on


           19              unemployment rates.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           21              Mr. Jackowitz.  Anyone else?


           22                      MS. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council.


           23              Liz Hubbard, Scranton resident, taxpayer.  A


           24              couple of few months back Jean Suetta came


           25              to council and asked for "Children at Play"






            1              signs on Gardner Avenue.  They were there in


            2              a week.  Well, we really need some on the


            3              100 and 200 block of Marian and where Ross


            4              Avenue comes in because when they redid the


            5              road for the flood project, the Ross Avenue


            6              turns into a blind curve.  One of my


            7              neighbor's dogs got run over and killed and


            8              a car almost hit a kid.  They fly around


            9              there.  They don't stop for the stop signs


           10              and there is a four-way stop sign and Marian


           11              and Gardner and they just ignore it, and


           12              they have a "No Outlet" sign on the 1400


           13              block of Gardner Avenue because they have


           14              the end blocked off for the levy project.


           15                      And I sit on my porch and I count


           16              cars, how many idiots either can't read or


           17              can't see because the cars go down to the


           18              end of Gardner where the barricades are and


           19              they turn around and come back.  They can't


           20              see the sign or maybe we need a bigger sign


           21              or maybe we need two signs, but it's insane.


           22              So, Bill, if you could do something about


           23              those "Children at Play" signs.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  100 and 200 block


           25              of Marian, right?






            1                      MS. HUBBARD: Yeah, and on the blind


            2              curve that Ross Avenue turns into Marian


            3              there.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay, I'll see what


            5              I can do.


            6                      MS. HUBBARD: Big ones, not little


            7              ones.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  What's that?


            9                      MS. HUBBARD: Big signs.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Now you are going to


           11              be picky and tell me what signs?


           12                      MR. HUBBARD: Yes.  There is always


           13              -- the people can't see the signs this big.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I'm only kidding


           15              you.  I'll do the best I could.


           16                      MS. HUBBARD:  Okay.  Another thing I


           17              just want to say, for 14 months I hammered


           18              on council about skunks, pretty much weekly,


           19              I'm glad it took only 14 months before you


           20              did something about it, okay?  Maybe -- I


           21              guess I wasn't strong enough in my


           22              persecution of the little darlings, but,


           23              anyway, I appreciate what you did, but let's


           24              get out there and get them before they go


           25              into their little nests for the winter and






            1              make babies to born in the spring.  Anyway,


            2              have a good evening.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


            4                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Marie Schumacher,


            5              city resident and member of the Taxpayers'


            6              Association.  In the concluding moments of


            7              the July 29 meeting, the last meeting prior


            8              to your five-week summer recess you,


            9              Mr. President, said, "I have asked council


           10              members if they would resubmit the


           11              appointments that they made to the oversight


           12              committee for ECTV and we will have that on


           13              the agenda in September so that that


           14              committee can be formalized and the members


           15              or the members appointed formerly to that


           16              committee should then become active in


           17              September."


           18                      I have checked all September agendas


           19              without finding this item.  Perhaps you


           20              could update us during motions this evening,


           21              Mr. McGoff.


           22                      That same evening Mrs. Evans made a


           23              second request for the guidelines that are


           24              given to homeowners by LIPS inspectors.


           25              Have these guidelines been received as yet?






            1              With the onset of cold weather, I'm


            2              concerned we may a repeat of what happened


            3              to Mr. Meile last February in that he


            4              reported a LIPS representative had the power


            5              to his home cut off causing the home's


            6              waterpipes to freeze and burst causing


            7              considerably more damage.  I don't believe


            8              anyone wants that.  The policy should be if


            9              you cut one utility you cut them all.


           10                   Mrs. Fanucci, on July 22 you responded


           11              to my costmatch question requirement of the


           12              type of loan being granted to Fratelli's as


           13              follows:  The total project cost for


           14              Fratelli's Pizza is $500,000.  That's how


           15              much it is for the acquisition of the


           16              building.  They are actually buying the


           17              building in which they are now so they are


           18              only borrowing $120,000, so that does


           19              qualify for the two for one and the benefits


           20              will be four full-time equivalent positions.


           21                   Now I have been reading the Court notes


           22              and have been checking the county's database


           23              and there is no record of that property


           24              having been conveyed.  Mrs. Fanucci, could


           25              you please provide the anticipated sale date






            1              during motions?


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: No, I don't have it.


            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER: And, Mrs. Gatelli --


            4                      MS. GATELLI: This is like school.


            5              We are all getting an assignment.  Lucky to


            6              be retired so you can do all this research.


            7                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  The first meeting


            8              following council five-week summer break you


            9              stated the Scranton Parking Authority audit


           10              report would be ready in two weeks.  Four


           11              weeks have passed and as of yesterday the


           12              Parking Authority's 2007 audit had not been


           13              received in the Clerk's Office.  Mrs.


           14              Gatelli, would you please update us on the


           15              Parking Authority audit during motions?


           16                   Also, back on July 22, Mrs. Gatelli,


           17              you provided the months the independent


           18              audit has been received.  The earliest was


           19              August and the latest was February of the


           20              year following the year it was due.  The


           21              poorest performance was for last year for


           22              which an audit is available for 2006.


           23              Perhaps I'm taking a simplistic approach,


           24              but it seems clearly logical that if you


           25              want the out put on time and in accordance






            1              with the Home Rule Charter the required


            2              inputs to an independent auditor must be


            3              scheduled to be available in February


            4              following the year to be audited.  So my


            5              question to you, Mrs. Gatelli, is what steps


            6              have you taken or will you take to ensure


            7              that all required documentation will be


            8              available to the auditor in February 2009


            9              for this calendar year?


           10                      Also, I would like any council


           11              member who knows the answer to the question


           12              of how the televised ads featuring the mayor


           13              are being funded.


           14                      And I would also like to point out


           15              there is graffiti on a wall coming into the


           16              city when you walk from South Side across


           17              the Spruce Street bridge on the wall along


           18              the Roaring Brook and that needs to be


           19              cleaned up.


           20                      And I would also like to note that


           21              ECTV doesn't doesn't seem to return phone


           22              calls nor are they able to provide citizen's


           23              guidance on producing programs as PEG


           24              channels are supposed to do.  I called back


           25              in I believe it was July and was told they






            1              would be able to do that in mid to late


            2              September and now I can't even get anybody


            3              to talk to.


            4                      And then I would like to know if


            5              there is any feedback yet on the cause of


            6              the Feinstermacher fire and if not how will


            7              that information be shared with the public


            8              when it is available?  Thank you.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.


           10              Schumacher.


           11                      MS. GATELLI: I'd just like to make


           12              one comment about the graffiti, I don't know


           13              if any of you have watched the District


           14              Attorney's Office, they had a special on


           15              about graffiti.  They are very proactive,


           16              they are working with the state to get it


           17              off the highways and underneath the bridges


           18              and if anyone sees any graffiti please call


           19              963-6717 and report it to the District


           20              Attorney.  They are working with the city


           21              and PennDOT to remove all graffiti as soon


           22              as possible.  That's very important that it


           23              be removed as soon as possible.  Did you get


           24              that number, Mrs. Schumacher, 963-6717.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Any other speakers?






            1              Mr. Ancherani, just in time.


            2                      MR. ANCHERANI: I'm not prepared, but


            3              I do have some things to say.  Two weeks ago


            4              when we are here, Mrs. Gatelli, you were


            5              mentioning about everyone going to -- or


            6              coming to this council meeting and the


            7              council meetings and why don't we go to the


            8              county meetings, why don't we go to the


            9              school board.  Well --


           10                      MS. GATELLI: Excuse me, everyone is


           11              saying that I said that, it was Mrs. Fanucci


           12              that said that.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  I was the one that


           14              said that.


           15                      MR. ANCHERANI: Didn't you also say


           16              it?


           17                      MS. GATELLI: No. I work in the


           18              school district so I tried to abstain from


           19              making any comments to that.


           20                      MR. ANCHERANI: Why don't we attend


           21              these meetings, the other meetings, didn't


           22              you say that at one time?


           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Maybe I did, but --


           24                      MR. ANCHERANI: Right, that's where


           25              I'm going.






            1                      MS. GATELLI: I didn't specify.


            2                      MR. ANCHERANI: The other meetings,


            3              all of these meetings, why don't we ever


            4              attend them, but anyway, in our population


            5              in the City of Scranton in 2006 it was


            6              76,000; 2007 it's down to 72 estimated, our


            7              budget for this year is $87 million.  The


            8              county has a population of over 200,000.


            9              Their budget is something like $105 million.


           10              So, yeah, we do have the -- we might have


           11              the lowest taxes, but our population also is


           12              lower than the county, but yet their budget


           13              isn't that much more than ours.


           14                      We have taken in with budgets, with


           15              loans, 600 million this year, up to this


           16              year from 2002.  I know you voted on passing


           17              that 5.5 million last week because if you


           18              didn't we'd default.  How could we default


           19              when we take in $600 million on a


           20              $5.5 million loan?  I can't understand that,


           21              5.5 that was supposed to be paid by


           22              December 17 of this year.  I guess I can't


           23              comprehend why 600 million couldn't take


           24              care of that.


           25                      We have 12.2 million plus in that






            1              account with the tax office and we are going


            2              to default.  You know, I don't know maybe


            3              you should all work together and come up


            4              with a budget that's not going to be a


            5              record budget this year, you know, something


            6              like 85 for last year.  I mean, the three of


            7              you voted on you it, the three of you gave


            8              us a 25 percent tax increase, maybe you


            9              could work on something.  Help us all out


           10              here, you know, and especially with this


           11              crisis that we are having now with the


           12              federal government, mortgages, everything,


           13              please give us a break this time.  Thank


           14              you.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           16              Mr. Ancherani.  Anyone else?  If not,


           17              Mrs. Evans.


           18                      MS. EVANS: Good evening.  First, in


           19              response to one speaker's question regarding


           20              the trash commercials, I guess throwing away


           21              your trash is fun commercials.  I believe


           22              that would have been funded through refunds


           23              received for the purchase of recycling bins


           24              that the city made in 2007, at least that's


           25              what I understand the funding to come from.






            1                   Now, do I believe that that is the most


            2              beneficial use of those monies?  No, I


            3              don't, but that is as much as I can tell you


            4              about the source of it.


            5                      I wish tonight to focus on one


            6              important issue, ECTV.  Despite the need for


            7              a public meeting with ECTV board president,


            8              John Darcy, station manager, Mark Migliore,


            9              and Mayor Doherty, the meeting once again


           10              was cancelled by Mark Migliore.  Council


           11              members can call him in place of a public


           12              meeting.  This is unacceptable and insulting


           13              to the public who demand accountability and


           14              better services of this public access TV


           15              operator.  Rather than comply with the


           16              request of the governing body, Scranton City


           17              Council, who provided ECTV with $90,000 in


           18              funding, ECTV chooses to ignore


           19              accountability and transparency by refusing


           20              to answer questions publically and prefers


           21              to follow the example set by others, such as


           22              former tax collector Ken McDowell, former


           23              DPW director, George Parker, and, of course,


           24              the mayor himself.


           25                      I am sharing a list of questions for






            1              ECTV that I had expected to ask their


            2              representatives publically tonight with my


            3              colleagues, and I am just going to read a


            4              few of them for you.  Again, I'm not going


            5              to read all 15, but maybe four or five.


            6              "Provide copies of updated financials to


            7              include a revised budget sheet and equity.


            8                   Include a complete accounting of how


            9              the $10,000 grant was spent, how you intend


           10              to spend the $90,000 and the name of the


           11              individual who serve as a financial or


           12              business manager of ECTV.


           13                      Why didn't ECTV explore the costs of


           14              a live feed from Comcast before selecting


           15              the Prescott Avenue studio location?


           16                      Have the renovations to your studio


           17              location at 933 Prescott Avenue been


           18              completed?  Have all renovation costs been


           19              paid?


           20                      Provide a complete list of the


           21              renovations, costs and licensed contractors


           22              or individuals who have been paid.


           23                      If there remain outstanding bills,


           24              list the renovation work, the cost and the


           25              contractors or individuals to whom payments






            1              are owed.


            2                      If renovations are not complete what


            3              is your plan to complete the work and pay


            4              for these services?


            5                      How does ECTV pay it's employees


            6              since none of the $90,000 can be used for


            7              salaries?


            8                      Has the hard wire work between


            9              Scranton City Hall and the ECTV studio been


           10              completed by Comcast?  If not, what is the


           11              date of completion of this work?"


           12                      Now, in order to receive written


           13              responses to these questions, which I will


           14              reword to the public, I move to send these


           15              questions to John Darcy and require a


           16              written response to each question on or


           17              before October 14, 2008.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All in


           20              favor signify by saying aye.


           21                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The






            1              ayes have it and so moved.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  It is also


            3              essential that since council awarded $90,000


            4              in funding to ECTV and since ECTV has failed


            5              to provide promised services since July 1,


            6              2008, council should set a deadline for


            7              delivery of programming services promised in


            8              the ECTV proposal.  Therefore, I move that


            9              ECTV must provide live coverage of all of


           10              local government meetings and all program


           11              circuses listed in their original proposal


           12              which was awarded PEG channel management in


           13              February 2008 on or before October 23, 2008.


           14              That is one month from the disbursement date


           15              of funding.  If ECTV fails to meet this


           16              deadline, new proposals for a PEG channel


           17              management will be sought.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll second that.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question, I'm


           21              going to make a motion myself when it's my


           22              turn to speak that's probably going to be a


           23              little bit more harsh to some people than


           24              what Mrs. Evans said, but I think it's time


           25              that we do something about what's going on






            1              here and stop going back and forth.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: On the question, we can


            3              motion all we want, we can say anything that


            4              we want, we can send anything want, but in


            5              the long run it has nothing to do with us,


            6              so we are sitting here spinning other


            7              wheels.  You can put 24 motions down like


            8              this and it's not our call, so I think it's


            9              voting on something that in the long run


           10              it's just falling on deaf ears because it


           11              doesn't matter what we have to say in this


           12              situation.


           13                      MS. EVANS: And I agree with you and


           14              I'm troubled by that.  As the speaker


           15              mentioned earlier tonight, it does seem


           16              council doesn't get any respect.  It does


           17              seem council has no power.  Council can


           18              issue subpoenas which can be ignored and


           19              toyed with in Court month after month after


           20              month.  Council, however, has the ability to


           21              supply the needed monies to everyone


           22              requesting it through the mayor.  He could


           23              not simply hand over $90,000 to ECTV without


           24              a vote of this council approving it.


           25                      And those cameras, before and






            1              currently, they sit here in council chambers


            2              and I do believe council has a


            3              responsibility here and if the mayor for


            4              whatever his reasons wants to shirk his


            5              responsibility so be it.  I think council


            6              needs to step up to the plate and do so with


            7              that extraordinary majority power we possess


            8              and right a wrong in this situation.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: The majority power has


           10              nothing to do with it.  We did vote to give


           11              the money, but in this situation we all know


           12              what the rules were before we got here.


           13              This is not something we weren't aware of


           14              what our powers were as a council.  So, as


           15              far as your motion is concerned, I'm just


           16              saying I won't be voting for it because it


           17              means nothing.  It is a nonissue as far as


           18              council is concerned.  We do not have the


           19              power to do that.  We never did have the


           20              power to do that or we wouldn't have had any


           21              of this discussion in the first place;


           22              correct?


           23                      We have the power and the money,


           24              yes, I passed it and I'm standing behind


           25              that powers, but I certainly have no power






            1              to decide who is going to have this station


            2              and who is not going to have this station


            3              and to sit here and go back and forth over


            4              something in the long run that we have no


            5              control over is just pretty much, you know,


            6              getting the public all riled up for


            7              something that, you know, in the long run


            8              has nothing to do with any of us.


            9                      MS. EVANS: I agree, but I don't


           10              think I'm getting the public riled up, they


           11              are riled up because they have been waiting


           12              for services now for months and months and


           13              months and nothing has been happened and


           14              I'm --


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: I agree.  I agree with


           16              that.


           17                      MS. EVANS: I'm going to give them a


           18              month's leeway time now that they have their


           19              $100,000 to get everything up and moving the


           20              way they promised.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: You can give them six


           22              months, you can give them 12 months, you can


           23              give them an hour, what I'm saying in the


           24              long run it doesn't matter, so I'll be


           25              voting, no, because to me it's a waste of a






            1              vote.  That's all.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: I'd just like to


            3              comment, also.  I'm going to vote, no, on


            4              the motion only because I don't think that


            5              we can require live broadcasts within that


            6              time.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: We can't require


            8              anything.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't think that we


           10              can require them to have live broadcasts.


           11              I, too, am becoming -- I have been a


           12              defender of ECTV and in the process and the


           13              way, you know, the events of not being at


           14              our caucus this evening is perplexing and


           15              it's starting to erode my support and I,


           16              too, want to get some answers, and I think


           17              sending the letter with the questions is


           18              good.  I would go a step further and I would


           19              invite Mr. Darcy and whoever from ECTV to a


           20              caucus next week and if at that time they


           21              don't appear then I think it would be in our


           22              interest and I know, Mrs. Fanucci, you


           23              saying that we don't have any control, but I


           24              think it's -- I think that we have to do


           25              something.  If they are going to refuse to






            1              respond to council after we have gone out of


            2              our way to aid ECTV, I think that if they


            3              don't respond by coming to a caucus next


            4              week then I think we do have to take


            5              measures to somehow work toward two things,


            6              rescinding the funding --


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: That would be --


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: --  and also rescinding


            9              the, I'll say contract for want of a better


           10              word.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           12                      MS. EVANS: There is none.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: But, I think your motion


           14              just the fact that you want to require --


           15              the motion wants to require them to provide


           16              live broadcasting, I don't know that that is


           17              technically possible within that month, I


           18              don't know, so without knowing that I'm


           19              going to vote, no, on the motion, but not


           20              without the qualification that I think we in


           21              the future do need to do something to


           22              rectify the situation.


           23                      MS. EVANS: The only other thing I


           24              want to add to that though, and I can


           25              appreciate your sentiments, but I have run






            1              out of patience and I do not feel inclined


            2              to offer them yet the third invitation.


            3              It's not a baseball game, three strikes you


            4              are out, they have already had two


            5              invitations that they declined and I do


            6              believe it's possible for them to provide a


            7              live feed.  I think Mr. Courtright spoke


            8              about that, it was a matter of the money.


            9              It may be a matter of some permission from


           10              the board of Scranton Today, but I'm sure


           11              the board members would meet within that


           12              time frame and decide whether that's


           13              agreeable or not to them, and I am asking


           14              for live programming because that is exactly


           15              what was promised in their proposal, the


           16              proposal that was to the committee far


           17              superior to any other.


           18                      So, I'm just asking them now that


           19              they have everything and more that they


           20              requested, that they keep there and now by


           21              delivering what was promised in proposals.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else on the


           23              motion?  All in favor signify by saying aye.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Opposed?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: No.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: No. The ayes have it and


            5              so moved.


            6                      MS. EVANS: In addition, I believe an


            7              emergency meeting of the oversight committee


            8              should be conducted as soon as possible and


            9              I hope to see the legislation appointing the


           10              committee members on next week's agenda.


           11              This committee will serve not only as


           12              advisor to city council, but also as a watch


           13              dog of any and all public access channel


           14              management.


           15                      Because of the questionable


           16              circumstances surrounding ECTV, public


           17              funding and failure to provide services well


           18              beyond the promised 120 day startup


           19              contained in the ECTV proposal, the public


           20              deserves such oversight and accountability,


           21              sooner rather than later.


           22                      The people of the Channel 61 viewing


           23              area have been more than patient, as I have


           24              already said, and the lack of transparency


           25              and accountability that has been amassed by






            1              this and many other administrative


            2              transactions has to stop.


            3                      On a different topic, I think it


            4              might have been mentioned earlier as well,


            5              city council received the independent audit


            6              of the Scranton Sewer Authority on Monday,


            7              October 6, but I do recall that in prior


            8              years during my service on council audits


            9              have been presented to us in September


           10              regardless of the dates, the scheduled dates


           11              for the audits of the municipal authorities,


           12              and last year, of course, we ran into a time


           13              delay because council was trying to obtain


           14              the most cost effective contract with an


           15              independent auditor and that pushed back


           16              excessively the time line, but we had no


           17              such excuse this year and it is my hope that


           18              before we are presented with the mayor's


           19              proposed budget on November 15 we are going


           20              to have an independent audit of the City of


           21              Scranton for the Year 2007.


           22                      I also have some requests for the


           23              week:  217-219-221 North Garfield, please


           24              send an inspector to speak with the property


           25              owner.  Neighbors report that nothing has






            1              been done sinks the first request yet the


            2              garbage cans now sit near a gasoline can.


            3              Please provide an update to council, and


            4              again, second request.


            5                      Potholes on the top and bottom of


            6              the 500 block of 12th Avenue were reported


            7              to the DPW.  We asked that they be filled as


            8              son as possible.


            9                      1023 Bunker Hill Street, there was a


           10              fire at this address in February of 2007.


           11              The house has been vacant for a long time


           12              period.  There are bags of garbage and old


           13              lumber in front of the house since June


           14              because a door and window are open kids have


           15              often gained entrance to this house.  Please


           16              provide an update to counsel on or before


           17              October 21, 2008.  And that's it.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: May I just say one


           19              thing --


           20                      MS. EVANS: Certainly.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: -- Mrs. Gatelli?


           22                      MS. GATELLI:  Sure.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: I will go to the law


           24              department tomorrow and make sure that the


           25              committee proposal is on for next week.






            1                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  That was all.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Okay.  Mr. McGoff is


            4              going to take care of that legislation and


            5              we are insured that we will be voting on


            6              that next week and I might ask, too, that if


            7              possible we can under emergency


            8              circumstances move that into it's second


            9              reading?  I'm sure it's only a resolution


           10              and not an ordinance.


           11                      MS. GARVEY: The only way we could do


           12              that in the same evening would be an


           13              emergency certificate would have to be


           14              attached from the mayor and from the


           15              controller as far as I know.  I have never


           16              had that happen since I have been here, but


           17              that's the only way you can move legislation


           18              on the same night that it has been


           19              introduced.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Well, then if you would


           21              contact please the office of the controller


           22              and the mayor and make that request.  Thank


           23              you, Kay.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Gatelli?


           25                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.  I asked last






            1              week, and I don't turn it on very often, but


            2              I asked that the change of the polling


            3              places be put on Channel 61.  Are they on


            4              there?


            5                      MS. GARVEY: I haven't seen them, but


            6              I did give it to them last week and they


            7              said they would put them on, but I haven't


            8              noticed.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Will you please double


           10              check for me because -- does anyone here


           11              know if they are on that watch the channel?


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I haven't seen them.


           13              I've watched them, but, I haven't seen them.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: I think it's important


           15              you know, with the polling places having


           16              been changed, people will go there and they


           17              won't be able to get in and they will just


           18              go home and I think the election for the


           19              president of the United States is too


           20              important at this time for that not to be on


           21              there, so please call again.  And also see


           22              if we can get the hotline number for the


           23              smoking ban put on there for people that are


           24              disgruntled about smoking in a restaurant,


           25              we can put the hotline to the state on






            1              there, too.  I think we should be using the


            2              channel for those kinds of purposes.


            3                      One thing I would like to talk


            4              about, and I'm not too sure about it, but I


            5              have noticed that there are numerous boats


            6              parked on streets.  They are parked on


            7              Pittston Avenue, I got a complaint on Alder


            8              Street, they moved the boat then to Crown


            9              Avenue, I believe that it's legal because


           10              they are on a trailer and the trailer has a


           11              license on it, but I would like maybe Amil


           12              to investigate the Motor Vehicle Code for us


           13              to see if there is anything we can do about


           14              parking large boats on city streets.


           15                      MR. MINORA:  I'll look into it.


           16                      MS. GATELLI: It seems to be quite a


           17              problem.  I talked to one of my friends last


           18              night that has a boat and he said that it


           19              cost too much for him to store it.  He used


           20              to store his bath, you know, right at the


           21              lake, but the rent went up and now he has


           22              got it on a trailer sitting on his street.


           23                      MR. MINORA: On public streets.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Yeah, they are right


           25              on the city streets.






            1                      MR. MINORA: I'll look into it.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  They take up a lot of


            3              parking spaces and they are very large and


            4              you really can't see around them and to me


            5              it's a safety hazard, but from what I


            6              understand it's legal, but if you could find


            7              that out for me.


            8                      MR. MINORA: I will look into it.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Or maybe through


           10              zoning we can do something about it, I'm not


           11              sure, but I have gotten quite a few


           12              complaints about it.


           13                      We wrote a letter to the Single Tax


           14              Office and they faxed a letter today saying


           15              that the auditors are beginning the


           16              preparation of the report and the audit is


           17              expected within 60 days, and that was from


           18              Mr. McGovern.


           19                      The next thing I have is that I


           20              would like to send a letter to Mr. Wallace.


           21              I spoke with Dan Penetar today, the


           22              solicitor for the zoning board, and the


           23              Oasis Bar on the corner of Pittston and West


           24              Locust was denied a variance at last month's


           25              meeting and they are continuing to operate






            1              at that location, so I would like you to


            2              send a letter to Mr. Wallace to please go


            3              over there and stop them from operating


            4              until they have their hearing.


            5                      Mr. Talimini brought up something


            6              about the roads and I wish he would make a


            7              list for me.  There is an organization


            8              called the Center for Independent Living,


            9              Keith Williams is the chairman of the board


           10              that meets monthly in city hall for people


           11              that are physically challenged, and they


           12              have a lot of say about curb cuts and things


           13              like that and whenever I reported any to him


           14              they were taken care of immediately, so if


           15              you could either make a list for me or tell


           16              me what the exact problem is I'll call Keith


           17              and have him work on that immediately.


           18                      A little update on the skunks, I


           19              have been working, as you know, with Ken


           20              Smith, the state representative in my area,


           21              and there is -- there are problems with the


           22              skunks, with the game commission and I


           23              mentioned that at a previous meeting and


           24              that was part of the problem that the city


           25              was having, however, I am working with






            1              Mr. Smith, they have one in Dunmore and once


            2              we get all of the details worked out then


            3              I'm going to give it all to the mayor and


            4              have him put a request for proposals out for


            5              the skunks issue.


            6                      Let's see, what else.  Audits.  I


            7              need to again ask Attorney Minora if he


            8              would help me with that and see why we can't


            9              get these audits all at an earlier time if


           10              we notify the authorities, you know, that we


           11              have a Home Rule Charter that we have to


           12              follow and they need to maybe change their


           13              audits to coincide with ours because it


           14              seems to be quite a problem that they don't


           15              have the same time line as we do, and if we


           16              can't get them on different time line.


           17                      MR. MINORA: I don't know that we can


           18              compel them to do that.  They are


           19              independent authorities, they are creatures


           20              of the state and not the city, but certainly


           21              in the spirit of cooperation it could be


           22              asked and I don't know why they wouldn't


           23              comply with that.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Maybe we can get


           25              together and send them a letter.






            1                      MR. MINORA: That would be fine.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  And maybe they could


            3              take that into consideration next year.


            4                      MR. MINORA: I don't know why they


            5              wouldn't want to help the city out.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  I don't know


            7              understand why we are not on the same fiscal


            8              year when it's, you know, for our benefit.


            9                   One other thing that I had and, you


           10              know, I brought this up before and I didn't


           11              seem to get too far with it expect that I


           12              requested that every month we get a list


           13              from the Tax Assessor's Office in the county


           14              of people that are having re assessments on


           15              their property.  If seems that there are


           16              approximately 60 or 70 of these a month.


           17              Any of you can take look at this later, and


           18              I'll leave it with Neil, maybe the


           19              Taxpayers' Association would be interested


           20              in this, but twice a month they have


           21              hearings and at least 30 to 35 people are


           22              having their taxes altered in some way.


           23              When you read them, out of the 35 or 36 at


           24              least 30 are getting them reduced.


           25                      We are in a reassessment right now






            1              of all of the county and I don't understand


            2              why they are still doing this in light of a


            3              reassessment.  Why aren't all of these


            4              people waiting for the reassessment to get


            5              their property reassessed?  It seems like


            6              they are getting them lowered so that when


            7              the reassessment happens maybe they will be


            8              taken back up to normal or they will have an


            9              edge over the rest of us that aren't having


           10              them reduced, but it really troubles me that


           11              people are getting their taxes reduced on


           12              their property and I would like to, I don't


           13              know what we can do about it, except send a


           14              letter, if the rest of council agrees with


           15              me, that they need to take a look at this


           16              and ask themselves why are they doing this


           17              every month, Seventy properties a month for


           18              years, for all of the years that I'm sitting


           19              here, that's a lot of properties.  So, you


           20              know, I would like to send a letter to the


           21              tax assessor.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Fine.


           23                      MS. GATELLI: If everyone agrees and


           24              find out why we are doing this in light of


           25              doing a total reassessment of everyone.






            1                      MR. MINORA:  Can I give you an


            2              explanation of what usually occurs with


            3              this?


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.


            5                      MR. MINORA: For a long period of


            6              time in our private office we did a lot of


            7              real estate work, for a number of reasons we


            8              don't do that much anymore, but what


            9              occurred and the usual basis, so I can't


           10              talk about an individual matter, but on a


           11              usual basis was after sale from one party to


           12              another the Assessor's Office would issue a


           13              reassessment of a higher amount and often


           14              times there would be in the neighborhood


           15              other homes with lower assessments and that


           16              would trigger somebody saying, "Why am I


           17              being treated differently simply because I


           18              bought my house this year and somebody


           19              bought their house ten years ago?"


           20                      And so how you would actually do


           21              this as a lawyer is you would get


           22              comparables in the neighborhood of other


           23              homes similarly situated, similar price


           24              range and have it reduced, and it was really


           25              on the basis of fairness, not unfairness to






            1              be honest with you.


            2                      What's going on at this moment I'm


            3              not prepared to tell you, but I can tell you


            4              that that's how it usually went and we often


            5              found people coming back to us and saying I


            6              want to appeal my assessment, you know, six


            7              months, nine months after they purchased it


            8              because they just got their reassessment or


            9              they just got their first bill which is


           10              double the bill that they were told the fee


           11              was in their HUD statement at the time of


           12              purchase.  So, that was generally the reason


           13              just as an explanation.


           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, I do agree with


           15              that.  I know that that does happen when you


           16              buy a house they jack up the assessment, but


           17              the ones that I read on here and the people


           18              that I recognize have been in those homes


           19              for years, so what I'm seeing from my end is


           20              people that didn't just buy the house so


           21              maybe we will have to find out how many of


           22              these are new homes, you know, and how many


           23              are people that have lived there that, you


           24              know, that will tell us the tale, because I


           25              don't think there is 70 houses a month being






            1              sold, you know, I find that hard to believe,


            2              but, anyway, I would like to investigate


            3              that a little bit.


            4                      And the only other thing I have is


            5              in response to Mr. Ancherani about the


            6              county and the city.  I don't like to knock


            7              another governmental body because Mike Washo


            8              happens to be a good friend of mine, but


            9              when you say that the city budget is higher


           10              than the county, I can't think of a thing


           11              that the county does for me as a homeowner


           12              in the City of Scranton.  I pay a library


           13              fee to go to the library, so I pay that


           14              extra, they don't clean my roads, they don't


           15              fill my potholes, they don't pick up my


           16              garbage, they don't come and inspect my


           17              house or my neighbor's house if I have a


           18              complaint about it, so I know it's sounds


           19              like a lot of money, but the city doesn't


           20              provide the bulk of the services to me as a


           21              resident of the City of Scranton.


           22                      I do hope the budget is in line and


           23              I do hope and pray that it includes


           24              contracts for the firemen and the police


           25              officers and in my opinion you can't put any






            1              price on that public safety and I hope that


            2              it's in the budget.


            3                      I know that the negotiations from


            4              what I hear are going well and every chance


            5              I get to talk to the mayor I encourage him


            6              and tell him that this council is very


            7              concerned about that and we all agree up


            8              here, I'm speaking for all of us, because we


            9              all agree, this is one thing we all agree on


           10              that we want to see contracts and we want to


           11              see this issue settled.  So, I do hope


           12              that's in our budget.  I hope that it's


           13              settled by then and I will be very, very


           14              happy to vote on that and that's all I have.


           15              Thank you.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci?


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: I really don't have


           18              anything, I just want to tell Mrs.


           19              Schumacher that I will find out when that


           20              sale date is closing, I don't know that


           21              offhand, but I will find that information


           22              out for you, and that is all I have.  Thank


           23              you.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           25              Mr. Courtright?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.  Let me say


            2              this first before I go any further, I do not


            3              know Mr. Darcy, I don't believe I ever laid


            4              eyes on the guy.  Mark Migliore has never


            5              been anything but kind to me, I like him as


            6              a person, so what I'm going to say, I hope


            7              everybody understands, it's not personal.  I


            8              too have run out of patience.  Somebody had


            9              pointed out an editorial to me for the Times


           10              that said, I believe, there needs to be a


           11              timeline, and I agree with that, but it's my


           12              opinion that they can't live up to the


           13              proposal that they made, I do not believe


           14              that they are going to be able to live up to


           15              the proposal they made for quite sometime.


           16              I read Mrs. Evans' questions and many of the


           17              questions that -- all of the questions


           18              basically that I would ask are in hers and


           19              so I agree with sending that to them.


           20                      And I understand what Mrs. Fanucci


           21              says that we are powerless, but my hope is


           22              I'm going to make a motion that maybe some


           23              people are going to think is harsh, all


           24              right, and the mayor doesn't have to listen


           25              to it, but if the motion passes and the






            1              mayor doesn't listen to us then it's on him,


            2              not on us, we did what we could do.


            3              Unfortunately, Mrs. Gatelli has stepped out.


            4              What I'm going to do is I'm going to move


            5              onto a different subject and I will come


            6              back to a motion that I'm going to make.


            7                   Someone spoke about the crime up in the


            8              Hill Section and the University of Scranton,


            9              I believe that in the past the University of


           10              Scranton did have two of their public safety


           11              officers that are Act 120 certified and I


           12              believe they have arrest powers.  I don't


           13              know if they still have to or if they had


           14              more.  It's a college, you know, and when


           15              you have a college you have certain problems


           16              that come with it.  This council had voted


           17              to put the cops back on the street, and I'm


           18              happy to say that more and more of guys and


           19              girls, or officers I should say, are signing


           20              up to work the overtime shifts, so that the


           21              manning is becoming more than was


           22              originally.


           23                      My understanding is that the


           24              Scranton Police Department is now on extra


           25              duty working out of Valley View and Hilltop






            1              again, which I don't believe they have for


            2              sometime now, so that is going to spread us


            3              a little thin, so I'm hoping to get as many


            4              guys back on the job as we could so that we


            5              have enough people to cover the overtime


            6              shifts, we have enough people to cover the


            7              extra duty shifts.


            8                      That's really all I have, but I


            9              really don't care to make my motion without


           10              Mrs. Gatelli being here, I don't want to


           11              exclude her.  Is it possible that we can go


           12              to you, Mr. McGoff, and then you can come


           13              back to me or you don't have much?


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I wasn't --


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You don't have much.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I had very -- no, I have


           17              nothing.  The only thing I was go to do is


           18              respond to Mrs. Schumacher about the ECTV,


           19              but I have already done that about the


           20              committee.


           21                      MS. EVANS: Well, I have a time


           22              filler, if each one of you would consider a


           23              dollar threshold with regard to UDAG funding


           24              that would have to come before council for


           25              it's vote before it could be dispersed to






            1              anyone.  I know that Attorney Minora has


            2              been waiting to draft that legislation for


            3              us.  I had asked for that quite awhile back


            4              and if you can decide on what each of you


            5              feels is appropriate, in other words, what


            6              allocation should be brought before council


            7              for a vote before it can be given to any


            8              organization or individual.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I have one thing I


           10              could ask Mr. Minora, am I correct in that


           11              ECTV doesn't have a contract, but what we


           12              are calling it is an agreement, is that


           13              correct, they have an agreement with the


           14              city, is that the term we are using?


           15                      MR. MINORA: It really would be more


           16              in the way of appointment.  You know, we


           17              solicitors are accustom to being appointed


           18              and we serve at the pleasure of who it is


           19              that appoints us, so I serve at the pleasure


           20              of this council.  You can get rid of me


           21              tomorrow if you wanted to, so do I have an


           22              agreement, no, I have an appointment.  And I


           23              think without a firm definition of anything


           24              more than that it appears to be an


           25              appointment process more than an agreement.






            1              No provider of video services has a right


            2              to, that I can see, I mean, there is no --


            3              theoretically they could be in a contract,


            4              but there isn't one.  It's traditionally


            5              been done as an appointment and it appears


            6              to me that the way it's been done without a


            7              contract is similar to what a solicitor has,


            8              and that is merely an appointment.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So I think what I


           10              will do to be on the safe side I'll use the


           11              term agreement and appointment so maybe that


           12              will cover me.  Mrs. Gatelli, I just didn't


           13              want to exclude you from this.  I'm going to


           14              make a motion that deals with ECTV and I


           15              said that I understand what Mrs. Fanucci


           16              says that basically we are powerless as far


           17              as who operates the channel, but my thought


           18              is this, if the motion passes and the mayor


           19              chooses not to go along with it then the


           20              onus would be on him and not on us and we


           21              would have done due diligence to the


           22              citizens of the City of Scranton.


           23                      I just believe it was disrespectful


           24              for them two weeks in a row not to come here


           25              to this council, but I believe it was more






            1              disrespectful to the citizens of this city


            2              that are paying for their station to just


            3              simply not come here, and I'm being told


            4              certain reasons why they come here, I have


            5              not been told personally on that, so I'm not


            6              going to say why I heard they didn't come


            7              here, but to me the first reason was that


            8              possibly Mr. Darcy the first was sick, and I


            9              can understand that.  The second reason,


           10              which I won't say which I heard is only


           11              hearsay, I don't agree with, but with all


           12              that said I make a motion that Scranton City


           13              Council send a letter to Mayor Doherty


           14              asking him to terminate the agreement or the


           15              appointment with ECTV immediately and to


           16              turn over the operation of Channel 61 and 62


           17              to Scranton Today until what time that ECTV


           18              could live up to all the claims and


           19              programming that they made in their proposal


           20              in order to receive this agreement or


           21              appointment, and I make that in the form of


           22              a motion.


           23                      MS. EVANS: Second.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


           25                      MS. EVANS: I think your motion is






            1              basically the same motion I made maybe two


            2              weeks ago.  Yes?  And then I withdrew my


            3              motion because you suggested we have a


            4              meeting and then that meeting didn't occur,


            5              and then we waited for the rescheduled


            6              meeting which didn't occur, but if I am


            7              hearing you correctly I think that's pretty


            8              much what you are saying that you would like


            9              Scranton Today to step in until such time as


           10              ECTV --


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Right, I'm not


           12              saying they are out of the mix because the


           13              mayor had the right to appoint a board and


           14              the board picked them and I understand that,


           15              that's what we have to live with, but I


           16              think it's painfully clear they cannot


           17              operate this channel and they are not going


           18              to be able to for quite sometime.  If the


           19              time comes they had are able to live up to


           20              the proposal they made then absolutely give


           21              it back to them, but in the mean time if we


           22              are all saying we're in favor of open and


           23              fair government and we are not trying to


           24              hide anything, well, then let's let them


           25              take over until they can do it.  If it's a






            1              month from now then, fine, let them take


            2              over, but I don't see that happening.  I


            3              think there is costs that they have that we


            4              are not even aware of and I think one of the


            5              costs is, and I'm sorry to take up so much


            6              time, but one of the main concerns I had


            7              that I read in the questions that you had


            8              was have the renovations for the building


            9              been paid for, and I believe for the parking


           10              lot have they been paid for and if they


           11              haven't where is that money going to come


           12              from?  I just think -- I think they got in


           13              over their head, I really do, and Mr. Balton


           14              made all of these proposals and he skated


           15              and now these two gentlemen are left holding


           16              the bag.  I just don't see it working out


           17              for quite sometime.  Maybe it's a harsh


           18              move, maybe some people are going to say


           19              it's unfair, but I think it's time to be


           20              fair to the people, the people that are


           21              paying the bills, the people that are


           22              wanting to see this.


           23                      I was the one that suggested that


           24              they try to show Scranton City Council on


           25              one of each shifts that people would be






            1              working and evidently that's not working


            2              out, many people are telling me that they


            3              are missing the meeting.  And I think, and


            4              for whatever reason watch city council, some


            5              people say it's for the entertainment value,


            6              which I don't know doubt.  Some people say


            7              it's to be informed, which I don't doubt,


            8              but whatever the case may be I know the


            9              reason that I watch, I can't remember that


           10              gentleman's name with the beard and the gray


           11              hair --


           12                      MR. GATELLI: Puglesi.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Right.  The only


           14              reason I ever saw him or I ever started


           15              watching him, I like him, I like listening


           16              to him was because I was watching Scranton


           17              City Council and I'm clicking waiting for


           18              council to come on and I saw him, the same


           19              with the other shows.  I used to like


           20              watching Tom Munley when he was on there,


           21              but I would have never turned into any of


           22              those shows if I wasn't first looking for


           23              city council.  This mand I hate to call this


           24              a show, but this popular for whatever the


           25              reason is, whether it's for the






            1              entertainment value or the informational


            2              value this is popular, and I think it's


            3              hurting the channel that we are not on


            4              enough.


            5                      So again, nothing personal against


            6              either one of those gentleman, but I truly


            7              believe this needs to be done.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: I --


            9                      MS. EVANS: Do you want to say and


           10              then I'll --


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question, I agree


           12              somewhat with what you are saying, perhaps I


           13              am showing too much patience, I would prefer


           14              to again offer the opportunity for ECTV to


           15              be here for a caucus and an opportunity to


           16              answer the questions that are being posed in


           17              the letter that Mrs. Evans has drawn up and


           18              if those two things don't occur next week,


           19              if we do not have answers to those


           20              questions, if we do not see them at caucus I


           21              would be more than happy to vote in favor of


           22              the motion, but I think at this time I


           23              personally would like to see one last


           24              opportunity for ECTV to answer our


           25              questions.






            1                      MS. EVANS: I just wanted to add that


            2              I have an additional concern involving the


            3              cable franchise fee and that is that ECTV


            4              had requested 25 percent of that fee


            5              annually for their funding and I know that


            6              almost a year ago when council spoke to


            7              representatives of Scranton Today in our


            8              office, they were visiting us regarding the


            9              $13,000 that they were requesting at the


           10              time.  I had mentioned then that I thought


           11              it was a very sagacious idea to fund public


           12              access channels through the cable franchise


           13              fees rather than through the City of


           14              Scranton, the county, the school board,


           15              etcetera, because it would provide a greater


           16              or let's say an unquestionable level of


           17              objectivity and independence.


           18                      However, we're approaching a


           19              contract renewal perhaps with Comcast and I


           20              think matters with the manager of the PEG


           21              channel has to be satisfied unequivocally


           22              before that type of percentage would be


           23              allocated to any channel.  I don't think we


           24              should be up in the air or, you know, and as


           25              I said before, I'm out of chances now.  I






            1              have no further interest in that.


            2                      I have submitted my questions and I


            3              would like the them answered in writing.  My


            4              intent was not to provide them well in


            5              advance so that answers can be prepared by


            6              others.  We have already had too many


            7              confusing answers, for example, regarding


            8              the $10,000.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Are we on the question


           10              still?


           11                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  One entity says it


           12              was to buy a digital server.  Another entity


           13              says it was to eliminate blight, and still a


           14              third entity says it was for job creation


           15              and which of the three is the truth?  So, I


           16              prefer they just send along those answers.


           17                   And, you know, I'm giving them the time


           18              to get up and running because they've got


           19              the cash now and if they don't then I don't


           20              see any alternative to their out and the


           21              money is rescinded.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the


           23              question?


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes, I would just like


           25              to say I agree with Mrs. Evans and I think






            1              that that motion was sufficient.  I'm not


            2              quite ready to go with Mr. Courtright's at


            3              this time, so, I'll be voting, no, on this


            4              motion, but I obviously voted, yes, for Mrs.


            5              Evans' motion.  I would like to give them


            6              that little bit of time that her motion


            7              suggests and then I also would be ready to


            8              seek new proposals or encourage the mayor to


            9              do so, apparently we don't have the ability


           10              to do that.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Yes, and I think if we


           12              are sending both of these to the mayor even


           13              the mayor is going to get confused by this.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: Well, he'll know, he'll


           15              get the message.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  All in favor signify by


           17              saying aye.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Opposed?  No.


           20                      MS. EVANS: No.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: No.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  No.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Motion defeated.


           24              Anything else, Mr. Courtright?


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  That's it.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: And I have nothing else.


            2              Mrs. Garvey?


            3                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR




            5              ELMER J. NALEVANKO, 1000 RICHMONT STREET,


            6              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18509, AS A MEMBER


            7              OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION, EFFECTIVE JULY 13,


            8              2007.  MR. NALEVANKO WILL BE REPLACING


            9              LORAYNE TALLO WHOSE TERM EXPIRED ON JULY 12,


           10              2007. MR. NALEVANKO'S TERM WILL EXPIRE ON


           11              JULY 12, 2012.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           13              entertain a motion that Item 5-B introduced


           14              in it's proper committee.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           18              in favor signify by saying aye.


           19                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           21                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           24              ayes have it and so moved.


           25                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -






            1              A RESOLUTION - RE-APPOINTMENT OF KEVIN A.


            2              ICKER, 108 ABBY WAY, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA,


            3              18504, AS A MEMBER OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION.


            4              MR. ICKER'S TERM EXPIRED ON JULY 12, 2006.


            5              MR. ICKER'S NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON JULY 12,


            6              2011.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            8              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


            9              introduced into it's proper committee.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           13                      MS. EVANS: These are apparently


           14              five-year terms, and I voted for


           15              Mr. Nalevanko because it's my assumption


           16              here that he is a new appointee.  Mr. Icker


           17              is receiving a term renewal and it would


           18              seem than often times with regard to these


           19              commissions and boards and committees,


           20              members continue to serve beyond the


           21              expiration date of their terms and then


           22              sometimes the mayor chooses to renew their


           23              participation and other times he does not,


           24              but I am concerned about an issue involving,


           25              once again, ECTV where one of the entities






            1              who had applied for operation of that


            2              channel had submitted a complaint to the


            3              Ethic's Committee and that complaint was


            4              also submitted to Scranton City Council by


            5              certified mail, I have a copy of that.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: Was that Mr. Quinn's,


            7              that one?


            8                      MS. EVANS: I don't whose it was.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: I think it was Ozzie


           10              and Lee Morgan's, they were the ones who


           11              sent this in?


           12                      MS. EVANS: NEPA --


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Is that yours?


           14                      MS. EVANS: -- a public access --


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah, I believe that


           16              was theirs; yeah, right.


           17                      MS. EVANS: But the point is, there


           18              was no response ever by the Ethic's


           19              Commission.  No hearing ever conducted, and


           20              so I cannot vote to reappoint someone to the


           21              Ethic's Commission who has ignored issues


           22              that have come to them.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: Did you speak to them


           24              on this?  Did you call the Ethics people and


           25              find out what happened with the filing and






            1              why nothing had been done?


            2                      MS. EVANS: No, do you know?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Actually, I do.  We can


            4              talk about that in caucus next week.  Yeah,


            5              we'll talk about it next week.  I do know


            6              there is a procedural problem from what I


            7              was told.


            8                      MS. EVANS: A procedural problem?


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: The way it was filed,


           10              that's all I heard in the beginning.  That's


           11              true.  That's exactly what it is.  It was


           12              not filed properly for the investigation


           13              to--


           14                      MS. EVANS: But, why did then they


           15              never even inform the complainant?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I have no idea.


           17                      MS. EVANS: Nothing.  In fact, the


           18              answer he received was they felt they never


           19              received the complaint.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, maybe that was


           21              the procedural -- I think that was the


           22              procedural problem, and that's what's --


           23                      MS. EVANS: But that's difficult


           24              because they were both delivered to the


           25              Treasurer's Office and there is a receipt






            1              for those, so --


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: We should talk to


            3              Mr. Quinn when he comes in next week and see


            4              what exactly he did --


            5                      MR. DOBSON: And I have problem with


            6              that --


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Please, Mr. Dobson.


            8                      MR. DOBSON: Somebody took --


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Please.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question if I


           11              could real briefly, and if I can recall --


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  The presidential


           13              debate is on at 9:00.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: When Mr. Connors was


           15              mayor I believe that at times if he didn't


           16              appoint people within a 30-day period --


           17                      MS. GATELLI: We can appoint them.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  -- we can appoint


           19              them as a council, council could appoint


           20              them, so maybe if we keep our eyes on it.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: We missed the boat


           22              there.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Exactly.  Shame on


           24              us.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  We missed the boat.






            1              That was two years ago.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  All in favor of


            3              introduction signify by saying aye.  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Opposed?


            8                      MS. EVANS: No.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


           10              moved.


           11                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           12              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND


















           21              NATIONAL HISTORIC SITE (THE "PARK") THAT IS


           22              INCLUDED IN THE 500 BLOCK OF LACKAWANNA


           23              AVENUE PROJECT ENTITLED "PARK, PLAZA AND


           24              PEDESTRIAN COURT".


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll






            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be


            2              introduced into it's proper committee.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Again, I love the idea of


            7              this project, I'm sure it's going to be


            8              fabulous, but it's included in the 500 block


            9              of Lackawanna Avenue project which fails to


           10              include the two anchor city businesses,


           11              Coney Island and Buono Pizza, so I am going


           12              to be voting, no.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: All those in favor


           14              signify by saying aye.  Aye.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Opposed?


           19                      MS. EVANS: No.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


           21              moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY:  5-E.  FOR INTRODUCTION


           23              - A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND




           25              AND ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT TO THE MASTER








            2              6293000 BETWEEN THE CITY OF SCRANTON AND


            3              FORD MOTOR CREDIT COMPANY FOR THE


            4              LEASE-PURCHASE OF SEVEN (7) NEW 2008 POLICE


            5              VEHICLES.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            7              entertain a motion that I tem 5-E be


            8              introduced into it's proper committee.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           12              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           18              ayes have it and so moved.


           19                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           20              A RESOLUTION - A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF


           21              HOUSE BILL 1768.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           23              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be


           24              introduced into it's proper committee.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            3              in favor signify by saying aye.


            4                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            9              ayes have it and so moved.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  READING BY


           11              TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 42, 2008 - AN




           13              MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS 902-908 NORTH




           15              TO ALFRED D. PANTUSO, SR., RD #2, BOX 2165,


           16              MOSCOW, PENNSYLVANIA, 18444, FOR THE


           17              CONSIDERATION OF $8,000.00.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


           19              by Title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I move that Item


           21              6-A pass Reading by Title.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  I believe this would be


           25              the property, Lyman's Deli, and everyone who






            1              has passed that knows that's been not only


            2              an eyesore, but a safety hazard for quite


            3              awhile and it's my understanding that


            4              Mr. Pantuso is going to tear that down, it's


            5              long overdue and I'll be thrilled to see


            6              that happen.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  All those in favor


            8              signify by saying aye.


            9                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           11                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           14              ayes have it and so moved.  Prior to reading


           15              6-B there was an inaccurate zip code placed


           16              in the original reading.  At this time I


           17              would like to make a motion to change the


           18              zip code from 18444 to 18509.


           19                      MS. EVANS: Second.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           21              in favor signify by saying aye.


           22                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            2              ayes have it and so moved.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: 6-B. READING BY TITLE -


            4              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 43, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE-


            5              SALE OF TAX DELINQUENT PROPERTY MORE


            6              COMMONLY KNOWN AS 2110 CAPOUSE AVENUE,


            7              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, TO MARK F. AND


            8              CHRISTINE L. FRYER, 902 WOODLAWN STREET,


            9              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18444, FOR THE


           10              CONSIDERATION OF $2,000.00.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: You have Reading by


           12              Title of Item 6-B what is your pleasure.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-B


           14              pass Reading by Title.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           17              in favor signify by saying aye.


           18                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           23              ayes have it and so moved.


           24                      MS. GARVEY: 6-C. READING BY TITLE -


           25              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 44, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE-






            1              SALE OF TAX DELINQUENT PROPERTY MORE


            2              COMMONLY KNOWN AS 902-904 MADISON AVENUE,




            4              WILIM NG, RR 2, BOX 2051, STROUDSBURG,


            5              PENNSYLVANIA, 18360, FOR THE CONSIDERATION


            6              OF $5,000.00.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


            8              by Title of Item 6-C, what is your pleasure.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I move that Item


           10              6-C pass Reading by Title.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           13              in favor signify by saying aye.


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           19              ayes have it and so moved.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A.


           21              FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON


           22              COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT - FOR ADOPTION -


           23              RESOLUTION NO. 67, 2008 AUTHORIZING THE




           25              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A RIGHT OF












            4              COMPANY, INC. ("PNRRA/DL") CONCERNING THE


            5              500 BLOCK OF LACKAWANNA AVENUE PROJECT


            6              ENTITLED "PARK, PLAZA AND PEDESTRIAN COURT".


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            8              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            9              Committee on Community Development?


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           11              Committee on Community Development, I


           12              recommend final passage of Item 7-A.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


           15                      MS. EVANS: Again, because this 500


           16              block of Lackawanna Avenue project does not


           17              include two anchor city businesses, I'll be


           18              voting, no.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           21                      MS. EVANS:  No.


           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           23                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.






            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            5              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION-


            7              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


            8              RESOLUTION NO. 68 , 2008 RE-APPOINTMENT OF


            9              WILLIAM J. EGAN, JR., 901 ELECTRIC STREET,


           10              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18509, AS A MEMBER


           11              OF THE BOARD OF THE SCRANTON HOUSING


           12              AUTHORITY FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS.  MR.


           13              EGAN'S NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 27,


           14              2011.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the


           16              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           17              passage of Item 7-B.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


           20              call, please.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           22                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           24                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            6              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


            7                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C.  FOR CONSIDERATION-


            8              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


            9              RESOLUTION NO. 69, 2008 RE-APPOINTMENT OF


           10              JANE MCCARTHY, 537 NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE


           11              APARTMENT 303, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA,


           12              18503, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE




           14              FIVE (5) YEARS.  MS. MCCARTHY'S CURRENT TERM


           15              EXPIRED ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2008, AND HER NEW


           16              TERM WILL EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2013.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the


           18              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           19              passage of Item 7-C.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the quetstion Roll


           22              call, please.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.






            1                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            8              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION -


           10              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           11              RESOLUTION NO. 70, 2008 RE-APPOINTMENT OF


           12              TERRENCE V. GALLAGHER, ESQUIRE 1320 ORAM


           13              STREET, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS A




           15              AUTHORITY FOR A TERM OF FIVE (5) YEARS.  MR.


           16              GALLAGHER'S CURRENT TERM EXPIRED ON


           17              SEPTEMBER 27, 2008 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL


           18              EXPIRE ON SEPTEMBER 27, 2013.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the


           20              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           21              passage of Item 7-D.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           24              call, please.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.






            1                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            3                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           10              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


           11              Motion to adjourn?


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


































            2                     C E R T I F I C A T E




            4        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            5   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            6   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            7   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            8   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            9   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

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