1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7               Tuesday, September 16, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania





















                        CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR -  COURT REPORTER





















            7   MS. JANET E. EVANS



                MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



           10   MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



                MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






                MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR



























            1    (Pledge of Allegiance and moment of reflection


            2   observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with


           14              the reading of the minutes, and prior to


           15              Third Order we do have a proclamation to


           16              read and to present and if the students


           17              would please stand and we'll come around.


           18                      I would like to read the following


           19              proclamation for the students of West


           20              Scranton High School who were involved in


           21              the initial phases of the smoking ban which


           22              has now become part of Pennsylvania state


           23              law.  I would like to also acknowledge the


           24              teachers, Mr. Tom Murray, and Mr. Jason


           25              O' Hearn for their work with the students,






            1              and promoting the civic action which I'm


            2              sure will benefit not only the city and the


            3              state but benefit the students for the rest


            4              of their lives.  Also, vice-principal


            5              Bridget Frownfelter for her role in


            6              encouraging the students to take on such a


            7              worthy endeavor.


            8                      The Proclamation reads:  "WHEREAS,


            9              as the Council of the City of Scranton is


           10              desirous of honoring "WEST SCRANTON HIGH








           14              JUSTINE TYRELL AND OLIVIA WALSH" in


           15              recognition of their dedication and hard


           16              work in their desire to ban smoking in the


           17              City of Scranton; and


           18                      WHEREAS, the "WEST SCRANTON


           19              STUDENTS" introduced to Scranton City


           20              Council an extensive presentation about the


           21              value of banning smoking in public gathering


           22              places; and


           23                      WHEREAS, in their research contacted


           24              officials in the Pennsylvania House of


           25              Representatives as well as offices of the






            1              mayors of New York City and Philadelphia in


            2              an effort to study the health and economic


            3              impact the smoking ban has on the citizens


            4              of these cities in order to pass along


            5              knowledgeable information to the citizens of


            6              Scranton; and


            7                      WHEREAS, under the supervision of


            8              their West Scranton Teachers, Mr. Jason


            9              O'Hearn and Mr. Thomas Murray, this lesson


           10              was meant to encourage student engagement in


           11              government and show that well-researched and


           12              presented arguments will be listened to by


           13              the government.


           14                      NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that


           15              on Tuesday, September 16, 2008, Scranton


           16              City Council wishes to congratulate the


           17              "WEST SCRANTON STUDENTS," their teachers and


           18              parents for their outstanding achievement.


           19                   BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that this


           20              Proclamation be made a permanent part a


           21              minutes of this council as lasting tribute


           22              to Hector, Michael, Chester, Kathleen,


           23              Brianna, Melissa, Amy, Justin and Olivia."


           24                   Congratulations, and there is also a


           25              proclamation that will be for the school






            1              itself that hopefully will be placed in the


            2              school so that future generations can see


            3              the contributions of these fine students.


            4              One more?  Congratulations.


            5                      (City Council returns to dais.)


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Just a point of


            7              reference or note, the Proclamations that


            8              were given out there was one name that was


            9              inadvertently left off the Proclamation.


           10              That will be corrected and a Proclamation


           11              will be given to the student whose name was


           12              omitted.  But, again, I know that the


           13              smoking ban had it's adversaries and I know


           14              that created some turmoil in the City of


           15              Scranton, but that should not reflect upon


           16              the great effort that these students made to


           17              do something that they contributed


           18              worthwhile and to engage in an endeavor that


           19              many adults would not take on.  I think


           20              their civic action should be applauded and


           21              thus was the reason for our Proclamation and


           22              hopefully they will continue to do service


           23              to their community in the same vein that


           24              they have done in the past, and thank you.


           25              Third Order.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: 3-A.  TAX COLLECTION




            3              TAX OFFICE ON JULY 9, 2008.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            5              If not, received and filed.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B.  TAX COLLECTION




            8              TAX OFFICE ON SEPTEMBER 9, 2008.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           10              If not, received and filed.


           11                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C.  MINUTES OF THE




           13              HELD ON JULY 20, 2008.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           15              If not, received and filed.


           16                      MS. GARVEY: 3-D.  APPLICATIONS AND




           18              BOARD MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 10, 2008.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           20              If not, received and filed.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           22              Order.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Prior to


           24              citizens; participation, any announcements


           25              from council?






            1                      MS. EVANS: A cancer benefit for


            2              Beverly Koch, a young mother who is battling


            3              lung cancer, will be conducted on Saturday,


            4              September 20, at the E-Street Pub and


            5              Eatery, 223 West Market Street in North


            6              Scranton from 7 to 10 p.m. Tickets are $15


            7              and available at the door.  If you are


            8              unable to attend, but are still interested


            9              in making a donation, a benefit fund for


           10              Beverly has been opened at Penn Security


           11              Bank, 1901 Sanderson Avenue, Scranton.


           12                   Also, the Upper Hill Ecumenical


           13              Committee comprised of the Myrtle Street


           14              Methodist Church, Immaculate Conception


           15              Church, and St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheran


           16              Church will be conducting events during the


           17              remainder of 2008 to benefit St. Francis of


           18              Assisi kitchen.  Monthly friendly family fun


           19              nights will be held at the Dunmore


           20              Friendly's restaurant during the hours of 5


           21              to 8 p.m. on the following dates:


           22              September 24, October 15, and November 19.


           23              Please keep in mind that the September 24


           24              date you can make a difference in the lives


           25              of others by dining out once each month and






            1              encouraging others to do so as well.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: I actually have one


            3              thing to say, I know that we are very packed


            4              here with our participants, but the fact


            5              that the school board meeting is going on


            6              right now and the amount of money that is


            7              being spent out of the taxes from our


            8              citizens and that they unfortunately had


            9              scheduled the meeting for tonight, I just


           10              wanted to make sure that everyone in the


           11              audience was aware that that meeting is also


           12              going on and with the amount of money that


           13              you are paying, I would believe that you


           14              would want to get there to voice your


           15              opinion because I know how you are so strong


           16              on how your money is being spent in the


           17              city.


           18                      So I just wanted to make sure that


           19              everyone here was aware that that was also


           20              an option for tonight because I was a little


           21              taken back and sad to see that that meeting


           22              was also scheduled on the same night as ours


           23              and we are talking about a lot, a lot of


           24              money, so that is really all I wanted to say


           25              to give people an opportunity.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Anybody anyone else?


            2              Thank you.  Citizens' participation.  First


            3              speaker, Harold Cameron.


            4                      MR. CAMERON: Good evening,


            5              distinguished members of our council, and


            6              good evening.  I want to draw your reference


            7              to an ordinance authorizing the mayor and


            8              other appropriate city officials under 5-B I


            9              guess you would call it to enter into


           10              agreement with an organization known as


           11              OCWEN Loan Servicing.  I don't know too much


           12              about this agreement, but what I do want you


           13              to know is the Better Business Bureau has


           14              rated OCWEN Financial as unsatisfactory.


           15              Their business practices generated 523


           16              complaints in the past 36 months and 188


           17              complaints in the last 12 months, so the


           18              Better Business Bureau says doing business


           19              with them is a bad policy.


           20                      Then, ConsumerComplaintsBoard.com


           21              has a number of the consumer complaints


           22              lodged against OCWEN Loan Servicing and


           23              OCWEN financial and then the


           24              MortgageInsider.net, the gentleman that


           25              writes this says that, "When I search for






            1              complaints against OCWEN Loan Servicing I


            2              found the worst complaints a mortgage


            3              service can get levied against them."


            4                      A quick story, years ago, years ago,


            5              and, of course, this is now 2008, but years


            6              ago my dad had a loan and it was bought out


            7              by OCWEN and he was making his payments on


            8              time, and they kept saying, no, you are not


            9              making your payments, the money didn't


           10              appear, the branch manager actually called


           11              their office and said, "I can certify that


           12              the money was indeed sent."


           13                      They refused.  They said, "No, the


           14              money has never been received."


           15                      Ultimately, dad went to another bank


           16              and the branch manager of that bank tried to


           17              called OCWEN and I said, "I've got $36,000


           18              for you to pay this loan off."


           19                      They wouldn't accept it.  His lawyer


           20              called OCWEN Financial and said, "Listen, we


           21              want to pay the loan off."


           22                      They wouldn't accept it.  Finally.


           23              The vice-president of People's Bank in


           24              Nicholson, Pennsylvania, calls.  They hung


           25              up on him.  This was years ago.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: I just want to


            2              interrupt you, I'm Sherry, I want to


            3              interrupt for one second because I wanted


            4              you to understand that we are not borrowing


            5              money or doing business with them.


            6                      MR. CAMERON: Okay.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Okay?  So, I didn't


            8              know you want you to think that we were


            9              entering into like a business agreement with


           10              them.


           11                      MR. CAMERON: Okay.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: They are giving us the


           13              money and at the end they will be giving us


           14              the land, we will actually get the land so


           15              it's not like we are, you know, into a


           16              financial agreement with them.  I just


           17              wanted you to understand that.


           18                      MR. CAMERON: Just a one-time and


           19              when it's done it's over -- .


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           21                      MR. CAMERON:  -- and when it's done


           22              it's over and we have no further --


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: Exactly, so it's not


           24              like we are in a financial agreement with


           25              them.






            1                      MR. CAMERON: Okay, I just wanted you


            2              to be aware if you were entering into


            3              anything --


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: No, I think it's great


            5              that you --


            6                      MR. CAMERON: Super.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Thank you so much.


            8                      MR. CAMERON: Thank you very much.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Cameron.


           10              Les Spindler.


           11                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council.


           12              Les Spindler, Scranton resident and


           13              homeowner.  Last week I spoke about the


           14              people burning wood in the backyard and,


           15              Mrs. Gatelli, you said you thought that you


           16              did something about this as a council?


           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes, I'm going to


           18              report on that in motions, I have some


           19              information on that.


           20                      MR. SPINDLER: I know what you did


           21              was you okayed for the purpose of heating


           22              your houses that that's -- this wasn't back


           23              in 2002.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Yeah, I know, I'll


           25              report on it, so I don't take up your time.






            1                      MR. SPINDLER:  Okay, well, I don't


            2              have a lot of stuff to say anyway.  Let's


            3              see, last week, Mrs. Fanucci, you commented


            4              about the Connell building there is going to


            5              be apartments and stores and this and that


            6              and I'd like to know who is going to move


            7              into these apartments because nobody is


            8              moving into this city.  In my area alone


            9              where I live within maybe a three-block


           10              radius of my house in the last five weeks


           11              five different homes have gone on for sale.


           12              That's one house a week that went up for


           13              sale just within three blocks of my house.


           14              There is nobody moving into this city, there


           15              is people moving out, but not in.  Maybe the


           16              only people moving who are moving in are the


           17              elderly and they'll be going into the


           18              nursing homes.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: Les, was this a


           20              question?


           21                      MR. SPINDLER: No, it wasn't a


           22              question, Mrs. Fanucci, it's just a comment.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  Oh, you are just


           24              talking at me, okay?


           25                      MR. SPINDLER: The next thing, I hear






            1              excuses from CDT, Chris Doherty TV, that the


            2              reason the broadcasts aren't live is because


            3              they don't have any money.  Well, Scranton


            4              Today worked on a shoestring budget that


            5              carried the meetings live, the sound was


            6              terrific, they carried meetings more than


            7              three times a week and when they had to


            8              raise money they raised money on their own.


            9              They didn't get too much money from the


           10              city, all the money -- most of the money


           11              they received was on their own, so why


           12              doesn't CDTV raise their own money and buy a


           13              three-hour tape so the tapes don't have to


           14              be interrupted.


           15                      The next thing, last week on the


           16              same subject, last week a man named Alex


           17              Allen from NEPA Public Access Project was on


           18              WILK news radio and he spoke about this


           19              subject.  He says he has filed a 15-page


           20              brief with HUD stating the RFP process to


           21              choose a new station was just a ruse by


           22              Chris Doherty to get a station he could


           23              control and Mr. Allen stated many reasons


           24              proving his facts that Chris Doherty did


           25              this and that the process to choose the






            1              station was unfair and he is hoping HUD will


            2              overturn that and reopen the RFP process, so


            3              I wish Mr. Allen best of luck in his project


            4              and I hope he is successful.


            5                      Lastly, I spoke about this I don't


            6              know how many times, but the line painting I


            7              asked in front of the Steamtown Mall and on


            8              the corner of Franklin and Spruce, I noticed


            9              within the last two weeks brand new lines


           10              have been painted in front of Prep High


           11              School.  Now, there seems to be lines


           12              painted all over the city except in the


           13              entrance to of the Steamtown Mall and the


           14              corner of Franklin and Spruce.  Why is this?


           15              Can anyone answer me?


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Les, the ones around


           17              the schools was the joint effort between the


           18              school district and the city.  The city


           19              supplied the materials, the school district


           20              painted their own lines.  But, I believe I


           21              asked them, and I didn't get it in writing,


           22              but I believe that the painting in front of


           23              the mall is scheduled to be done.  I


           24              specifically asked them about that, and I


           25              explained the problems and I thought it






            1              would have been done by now, but I will


            2              check and make sure.


            3                      MR. SPINDLER: It'd be nice because


            4              I've only been asking for three years now.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll have an answer


            6              for you next week.


            7                      MR. SPINDLER:  And find about Spruce


            8              where it meets Franklin.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay.


           10                      MR. SPINDLER: Because there is a


           11              dotted line down the center, but when you


           12              come to the corner that was always three


           13              lanes.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Spruce and Franklin;


           15              right?


           16                      MR. SPINDLER: I have asked about


           17              that, also.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  All right, got you.


           19                      MR. SPINDLER: Thank you.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You are welcome.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.


           22              Andy Sbaraglia.


           23                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,


           24              citizen of Scranton, fellow Scrantonians.  I


           25              know it's -- you just got a little






            1              information on this project, but this 5-C,


            2              you know, it's selling this and selling


            3              that, selling this, selling that,


            4              transferring this back, forget it.  It's


            5              long complicated, what does PEL say?  Now, I


            6              know originally they disapproved of it and


            7              they certainly can't approve of it now


            8              because they just did it twice.  Now, I


            9              would like to know what does PEL think of


           10              all of these things before you go voting on


           11              another transfer?


           12                      That's something you should check


           13              with PEL on because they disapproved of it


           14              before and certainly you can't approve of it


           15              now.  Let's go to, let's get into 7-F, I


           16              guess, and "G".  As you know, the city has


           17              lined up loans and borrowing and grants, I


           18              think it's all grants up to 29 million for


           19              the 500 block of Lackawanna Avenue.  Do you


           20              realize that with $29 million we wouldn't


           21              have to collect city real estate taxes in


           22              the city for two years?  That's two years


           23              worth of taxes you just poured into


           24              Lackawanna Avenue.  Of course, it's not --


           25              well, it's our money, but I'm willing to get






            1              into all of the different places it came


            2              from and basically it comes back to people


            3              who are working.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: But, you do know they


            5              are not just going to give it to you just to


            6              pay the taxes?  I mean, that's not going to


            7              happen.


            8                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I don't care.  I'm


            9              just telling you what it amounts to.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, right, but it's


           11              comparing an apple and a grape.


           12                      MR. SBARAGLIA: The reason why I'm


           13              bringing it up at this time is because last


           14              week in the middle of the week there was a


           15              list of people houses that were going up for


           16              sale.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Mine was one of them.


           18              I sold mine.


           19                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I know did, but I'm


           20              not talking about your selling it, I'm


           21              talking people that were being forced, okay,


           22              by the bank, that was the reason, so --


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: Been there.


           24                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Yes.  We are in


           25              trouble.  This city is in trouble and you






            1              are not helping it.


            2                      MS. GATELLI: Andy, the United States


            3              is in trouble.


            4                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I'm not referring to


            5              the whole world, I can't change the world.


            6                      MS. GATELLI: And we need to --


            7                      MR. SBARAGLIA: That I can't do.


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  We need to concentrate


            9              on that, too.


           10                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  But I'm talking


           11              about -- you have to start somewhere.  When


           12              you start a journey it's the first step


           13              that's important.  You don't see that.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Andy, I totally agree


           15              with you on that, but what I'm saying is


           16              $29 million to say, I'm not taking it for


           17              this, if we could put it towards taxes you


           18              don't think we all would have done that?  We


           19              would do that in a heartbeat.


           20                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I don't think you


           21              would have.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Oh, come on, Andy.


           23                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  I really don't think


           24              so.  I really think you do what you do


           25              because people are make being out on this






            1              project.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Now, that is the --


            3              first of all, it's absolutely wrong.


            4                      MR. SBARAGLIA: When I asked you --


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: The people who are


            6              putting the work hats on and going down


            7              everyday to work, the union people who are


            8              building those building, the people who live


            9              there, the people who will be able to shop


           10              downtown, the people who are putting the


           11              windows in, the computers, the rugs, they


           12              are the people who are making the money.


           13                      MR. SBARAGLIA: No, no, no.  First of


           14              all, a lot of them union people you talk


           15              about don't live in the city.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Oh --


           17                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Don't tell me they


           18              don't, I'm a union member and I was in the


           19              building trades, I know how much money I


           20              made and they told me I was crazy to live in


           21              Scranton.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Wouldn't you have lucky


           23              if you could have went downtown and went in


           24              a project right in your backyard?  That's


           25              what it's about.






            1                      MR. SBARAGLIA: All of them projects


            2              I went to was done with the developer's


            3              money, not with public money.  When the bank


            4              went up, the Citizen's Bank went up in town


            5              you think they went for grants?


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: You are saying we


            7              shouldn't use public money?  We should take


            8              public money?


            9                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I'm not saying that.


           10              I'm not just telling you what exactly that


           11              amount of money would do.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Of course, it would,


           13              but we are taking what's given to us.  We


           14              are taking it.


           15                      MR. SBARAGLIA: I'm not here to argue


           16              with you on this projects.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Well, you are saying


           18              --


           19                      MR. SBARAGLIA: No, you are answering


           20              me.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: I am answering you.


           22                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  The only thing I


           23              want from you is what does PEL say?  That's


           24              the answer that I want from you being that


           25              your department and nothing else.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll look and find out


            2              what PEL says.


            3                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Well, why didn't you


            4              already know what PEL said being you


            5              attended all the PEL meetings?  You should


            6              have known that.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: I didn't attend a


            8              meeting in the past -- this year actually,


            9              since PEL because they are putting together


           10              a new plan.


           11                      MR. SBARAGLIA: You haven't been to


           12              PEL since January?


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: No, this -- since we


           14              have been back in session.


           15                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Oh, you are talking


           16              about after the break.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           18                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  But before the


           19              break, PEL must have told you what they


           20              thought.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Actually, they did not


           22              tell me what they thought about it.


           23                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  Well, then how come


           24              it was quoted in the paper?


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Well, they told the






            1              Times, they didn't tell me.


            2                      MR. SBARAGLIA: They don't tell you


            3              to much, do they?


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Oh, no.


            5                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  But, obviously,


            6              where you sit and where I sit is two


            7              different things.  I consider the people


            8              more important than all of central city, I


            9              always said that.  Thank you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Donna Dolan.


           11                      MS. DOLAN:  Good evening, Council.


           12              Good evening, fellow citizens.  I'm a


           13              resident of Scranton, homeowner in the Plot


           14              Section.  I'd like to start out with giving


           15              you a little bit of a story, it's about


           16              skunks.  Our dearly beloved little creatures


           17              like to live in a radius of two miles of


           18              water, the Lackawanna river.  They reproduce


           19              at the rate of five to six young per year


           20              who stay with their mother for a year.


           21                      Now, they are all God's dear little


           22              creatures, but they are sitting in my


           23              backyard and they are walking down the


           24              sidewalk and my dear little Cairn Terrier


           25              would like nothing more than to go right






            1              after them which, of course, I do not want


            2              to deal with the consequences of being


            3              sprayed, so as a result I cannot leave my


            4              back porch when it's dark, and as the days


            5              go on it's getting darker earlier and


            6              earlier.  Need I say what I'm dealing with


            7              when I can't take her out, and it infuriates


            8              me that $300,000 has been spent on a dog


            9              park that I can't use and I can't walk my


           10              little dog in the backyard.


           11                      Now, I didn't come here tonight just


           12              to complain without a possible solution, and


           13              I realize with the problems facing Scranton


           14              this is minor, but it is a quality of life


           15              issue and it is a matter of Scranton Pride,


           16              so I called to find out what could be done.


           17              Well, skunks are not on the list of animals


           18              to be taken care of.  First I was told that


           19              our inspector was not certified, I don't


           20              know if that's true or not.  So I took it


           21              upon myself to call the mayor's office and I


           22              asked what could be done, and I was told


           23              that he you would need to do this yourself


           24              because allegedly the city had been sued by


           25              giving work -- by doing the rodent removal,






            1              rather, taking work from other contractors


            2              is basically what I was told.  I said, well,


            3              I said if that's the case, I said, would you


            4              please ask the mayor to use some of


            5              discretionary money to higher these


            6              contractors so that the rodents, the skunks,


            7              whatsoever can be removed.  So, I was told


            8              that this would be passed onto the mayor.


            9              Now, that was only yesterday so I will give


           10              him time.


           11                      My next thing that I would like to


           12              propose is that city council would write a


           13              letter to the mayor requesting that


           14              contractors be hired to deal with this


           15              problem, that would be for this time period.


           16              Once they go into hibernation in December we


           17              have until spring to do with them again.


           18                      The second thing I would request is


           19              that you would put in the budget for '09


           20              some money to deal with this problem because


           21              it is not going away.  It's only going to


           22              get worse, and I promise you, I'm not going


           23              away until they are gone.  Thank you.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Dolan.


           25              Sam Patilla.






            1                      MR. PATILLA:  Good evening, Mrs.


            2              Evans, Mr. Courtright.  A statement that I


            3              read that Nelson made got me to wondering,


            4              he commented on as a taxpayer, his tax


            5              dollars being used by the city in


            6              arbitration in Court cases against the


            7              police, fire and clerical unions and his


            8              membership dues in the union being used to


            9              defend his position against the city.  That


           10              got me to thinking, you know, with the


           11              failures of AIG, Lehman Brothers,


           12              Countrywide and all of these other crooks on


           13              Wall Street, you know, the billions and


           14              billions of dollars that our government, our


           15              fellow government is using to bail those


           16              businesses out should be made available to


           17              the average taxpayer, the middle class


           18              working family or working poor, so that they


           19              can pay of he principal amounts in their


           20              mortgages and other debts owed to them


           21              crooks, you know, they are in the same boat


           22              as what Nelson spoke on.  Now, not only are


           23              they getting bailed out with taxpayers'


           24              dollar, but the taxpayers still owe them


           25              mortgages, so they also are still paying






            1              that money.


            2                      Contact our legislators, tell them,


            3              we want our money used to protect us, you


            4              know, we need the trickle up effect not the


            5              trickle down effect.  We pay off our


            6              mortgages, that provides us with liquidation


            7              and ready cash that we can use and spend in


            8              small businesses, small businesses grow,


            9              that leads to expansion, expansion leads to


           10              that money being sent or used by banks to


           11              expand.  So those that don't have or those


           12              that are carrying the weight right now are


           13              taken care of instead of bailing out the


           14              crooks that are responsible for us being in


           15              this position we are in any way.


           16                      Which leads me into another issue I


           17              wants to comment on.  A couple of weeks ago


           18              my neighbor had rocks thrown at her because


           19              she stepped outside of her home and asked a


           20              couple of idiots to stop throwing rocks at


           21              her pets, pets within the gate in their home


           22              minding their own business.  These idiots


           23              come along, these little, itty bitty things,


           24              and they are throwing rocks at them and she


           25              asked them kindly to stop throwing rocks at






            1              her pets and they start throwing them at her


            2              and it just dawned on me that, you know,


            3              maybe if this administration stopped trying


            4              to blame the unions for all of the ails that


            5              Doherty's borrowing has caused instead of


            6              pounding the pavement seeking donations or


            7              giving donations to coffee shops, beauty


            8              parlors and unequipped television stations,


            9              that money that should have been solicited


           10              that would have provided for the additional


           11              police, additional fire and the possibility


           12              of providing them with the tools that they


           13              need to keep us safe.  You know, a few


           14              months ago people were stating there is no


           15              crime in Scranton, so as of lately, just


           16              going by what I read on the Internet, the


           17              attacks against our senior citizens are on


           18              the rise, drugs are on the rise, arson is on


           19              the rise, bank robberies are on the rise,


           20              home invasions are on the rise, robberies


           21              are on the rise.  This isn't is time to


           22              reduce our police our fire departments, it's


           23              the time to dig in and give those guys and


           24              gals what they need to keep you us safe.


           25                   You know, whatever you do, and I was






            1              privy to hear a portion of the caucus that


            2              was held earlier in regards to that balloon


            3              payment due this December, refinancing is


            4              borrowing.  There is no and's, if's or but's


            5              about it, all right, so you can't come to me


            6              and tell me, well, if we don't make this


            7              payment then the roof is going to cave in.


            8              We are the United States in 2008, the roof


            9              already caved in.  All around us the roof


           10              has caved in, and as Ms. Evans so eloquently


           11              stated before, that loan should have never


           12              been applied for a city that's distressed


           13              anyway, and to further that the city of


           14              Scranton should have never agreed to any


           15              type of loan that carried an adjustable rate


           16              with it, you know, anything that the city


           17              does should be fixed and set out in stone.


           18                   We shouldn't have to bail out the Sewer


           19              Authority.  We shouldn't have to bail out of


           20              the Housing Authority.  We shouldn't have to


           21              bail out any authority that doesn't report


           22              directly to Scranton City Council.  That's


           23              between the office of the mayor.  You know,


           24              you are our last line of defense and we need


           25              you to start doing your jobs.  Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.


            2              Frank O'Connell.


            3                      MR. O'CONNELL:  Good evening,


            4              Council members.  My name is Frank


            5              O'Connell, 507 Quincy Avenue.


            6              Mr. Courtright, maybe you can answer this?


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Sure.


            8                      MR. O'CONNELL:  It's about permit


            9              parking, the signs are posted, the cops


           10              come, they don't give them a ticket they put


           11              a warning sign on and the warnings are


           12              already there with the sign I asked them,


           13              why didn't you give them tickets out, I have


           14              to go down and get one and put it in my


           15              windshield, and anybody that parks there


           16              should have an up-to-date permit otherwise


           17              you should get a ticket, that didn't happen.


           18              I called at 12:30, as of 3:00 nobody came


           19              up.  They came a quarter to six and put a


           20              red warning sticker on them, it's been going


           21              on a long time and I'm just wondering why


           22              the red sticker and not a regular ticket,


           23              $25 ticket.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know your


           25              particular instance why the red ticket, but






            1              traditionally what they would do is if


            2              somebody creates an infraction like that


            3              they used to put a warning ticket on, if


            4              they were to be called back to that same


            5              instance then they would actually ticket


            6              them.  It's discretionary on the officer's


            7              part.  Where are you?


            8                      MR. O'CONNELL: I'm at 507 Quincy


            9              Avenue.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Excuse me, five


           11              what?


           12                      MR. O'CONNELL:  507 Quincy Avenue.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll call down


           14              tomorrow and find out.


           15                      MR. QUINN:  I'm just wondering


           16              because I have a sticker on my windshield


           17              that's good, but there is a lot of cars that


           18              come and park there and they are going down


           19              the University, I know that for a fact, and


           20              they are not getting tickets and there was


           21              nine of them there today, nine cars without


           22              permits and not one of them got a ticket.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I'm guessing that


           24              if nobody came until 6:00 they were tied up


           25              on something that should be considered --






            1                      MR. O'CONNELL:  I called at 12:30.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Unfortunately,


            3              sometimes they get busy.  I think there was


            4              a major incident that happened today, I'll


            5              check into it.


            6                      MR. O'CONNELL: I'll let that go.


            7              One more thing, the shootings up in the Hill


            8              Section, I don't know if you know how many


            9              we had in the last month, do they have


           10              officers walking the beat up to a certain


           11              time or because this is happening at one,


           12              two o'clock in the morning.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: During -- there are


           14              different intervals, they are not the same


           15              time everyday.  The problem is that they


           16              don't -- there is not enough officers


           17              volunteering for the overtime to staff every


           18              beat.


           19                      MR. O'CONNELL: I understand.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We as council


           21              offered to give, you know, time and a half,


           22              but not every officer -- they are not filing


           23              every single beat because there is not


           24              enough officers volunteering for that.


           25                      MR. O 'CONNELL: I'm just afraid






            1              somebody is going to seriously injured.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Believe me, I wish


            3              we had officers 24/7 On every Street, that


            4              would be -- for me that would be -- -


            5                      MR. O'CONNELL: It's scary, because


            6              it's three houses away from where I live on


            7              the right and up on Gibson there was another


            8              shooting and the week before was on Quincy


            9              and they were shooting University students,


           10              that's who live in them two houses.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  My understanding is


           12              that they tried to make sure that the Hill


           13              is one of the sections if they don't have


           14              enough officers to staff the entire areas,


           15              that the Hill Section is one of the ones


           16              that they staff first.


           17                      MR. O'CONNELL:  Okay.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I know Captain


           19              Graziano is the captain of patrol unit


           20              officer.


           21                      MR. O'CONNELL:  I didn't know if you


           22              are aware there was three different --


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't want to say


           24              there is more incidents than what you know.


           25              They will say I'm trying to scare people.






            1                      MR. O'CONNELL: All right. Thank you


            2              for your time.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You are welcome.


            4              I'll check into that for you.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr.


            6              O'Connell.  Stephanie Gawel.


            7                      MS. GAWEL: Stephanie Gawel.  Good


            8              evening, Council.  Could I ask Mr. Minora,


            9              when you do expect to hear about the


           10              decision on that you --


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Please answer.


           12                      MS. GAWEL: Went and spoke to the


           13              judge?


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes, we had our


           15              argument last Thursday before Judge


           16              Thompson.  He said he would give us a prompt


           17              decision.


           18                      MS. GAWEL: So, maybe another two


           19              weeks?


           20                      MR. MINORA: You know, it's hard -- I


           21              don't know his schedule.  I don't know what


           22              kind of briefing schedule he is on, if he


           23              has got a lot of arguments that he has to


           24              write opinions on.  It's just something I


           25              couldn't accurately guess at, I'm sorry.






            1                      MS. GAWEL: Okay, I'm just trying to


            2              keep it fresh.  Okay.  Still struggling with


            3              the arrogance of this mayor and it's


            4              administration.  Oh, before I get


            5              sidetracked, did anybody find out whether we


            6              had any other accounts with Fidelity besides


            7              that one?  Was anybody able to find out?


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: I put in a call and I


            9              did not find out anything yet.


           10                      MS. GAWEL:  Thank you.  Because of


           11              his arrogance he just won't negotiate with


           12              these unions and, you know, the FOP and


           13              stuff and he is not just, you know, he is


           14              holding the safety of the city up.  You


           15              know, and I mean obviously you hear


           16              everything that's going on that it's just


           17              very unsafe out there, but, I mean, like the


           18              widows haven't had a raise in seven years,


           19              the retired people haven't had a raise in


           20              seven years and everything keeps going up.


           21              How are these people supposed to go on?  I


           22              mean, I have insurance at work, but my


           23              co-pay on my medicines just went from $25 to


           24              50, and I work so I can get overtime.  What


           25              are these people supposed to do?  We got to






            1              get to work in here.  You know, like, he has


            2              been writing letters about the flooding


            3              situation back in Keyser Avenue, I mean,


            4              it's just not water, it's sewer water going


            5              into these people basements, that's a health


            6              and safety issue.  Nobody has gone.  I


            7              know -- I believe you went to one meeting


            8              back at Keyser Avenue and I think you did,


            9              but, I mean, as far as like anybody from the


           10              city that really should have gone whether it


           11              be the public safety director or DPW or


           12              whoever is in charge of that stuff, nobody


           13              has gone.  They don't respond to the


           14              letters, the mayor doesn't.  I mean, you


           15              know, we just want -- they just want some


           16              help back there.


           17                      MS. GATELLI: Mrs. Gawel, where is


           18              their sewage?


           19                      MS. GAWEL: Back on Cameron Avenue


           20              and Keyser, like, it comes across Keyser


           21              Avenue.


           22                      MS. GATELLI:  By Mr. Newcomb's


           23              house?


           24                      MS. GAWEL: Yeah.  We are talking


           25              back in that that area.






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  Just for the record, a


            2              new catch basin was put there.


            3                      MS. GAWEL: Yeah, but it didn't help.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: It's not helping


            5              because the problem is on Keyser Avenue so


            6              we are working with Frank Shimkus right now


            7              to try and get some funding to put some


            8              catch basins up on Keyser.  They redid


            9              Keyser Avenue and they never addressed the


           10              storm water.


           11                      MS. GAWEL: Yeah, okay.  All right.


           12              Excellent.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  So we are trying with


           14              that particular issue.


           15                      MS. GAWEL: Okay.  Thank you very


           16              much.


           17                      MS. EVANS: I might add though, that


           18              flood work for Keyser Avenue was included in


           19              the CDBG grant applications and that I


           20              noticed that in the allocations that's a


           21              project that was not included.  So, yeah, I


           22              would hope that city council is going to


           23              examine that closely and make the proper


           24              arrangements.


           25                      MS. GAWEL: I just want to address






            1              the citizens again and some of the


            2              employees, I think they need to sit down and


            3              put their thoughts down and come in and talk


            4              to you people so that you are not looking at


            5              the same people thinking we are all nuts


            6              here driving you crazy with our issues,


            7              because we don't want to be the same faces


            8              and we want you to understand that there is


            9              other people out there with the issues.


           10                      And I would like to address the


           11              council.  We like you live because that way


           12              we know nobody has edited you, nobody is


           13              misquoting you and there is actually times


           14              when we agree with council and we are going,


           15              all right, we've got to give them that one.


           16              Like, I would like to go to the


           17              commissioner's meetings, I can't, they are


           18              during the day, I can't keep leaving work.


           19              You know, why do we pick and you guys so


           20              much?  You are our service people.  You are


           21              the ones that look after our safety, our


           22              health, and that sort of stuff.  I didn't


           23              even know the meeting for tonight for the


           24              school taxes, I really didn't, but I still


           25              would have been here talking to you because






            1              you are looking after my safety issues and


            2              my issues, and we also, of course, don't


            3              trust the Times to quote you guys honestly


            4              either, so that's why we like you live.


            5              Okay?  Thank you and have a nice night.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mrs. Gawel.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: I think we should send


            8              Mr. Washo a letter to have his meetings at


            9              night where more people could attend.


           10                      MS. GAWEL:  Well, according to him,


           11              according to him he can't because he has his


           12              people come in to answer questions where


           13              we --


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So do we.


           15                      MS. GAWEL: That was the song and


           16              dance I had seen someplace from him.


           17                      MS. EVANS: Our people come in.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: David Dobson.


           19                      MR. DOBSON:  Good evening, Council.


           20              Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton.  On 5-C I


           21              can't figure that out.  Apparently we keep


           22              borrowing to pay back the old loan and I


           23              understand that it's tough times, but we


           24              really need to start to tighten the deficits


           25              up and get rid of them because they are not






            1              helping anything and a lot of this public


            2              money I had spoken before, I think it should


            3              be looked into to start to try to build


            4              industrial parks and so forth to get


            5              businesses to move into the city.  Our


            6              neighbors up in Covington Township seem to


            7              be doing quite well with that.  They have


            8              had a few setbacks up there and in spite of


            9              the fact that it's actually -- there are


           10              some negatives there because some of the


           11              lakes and tourists areas have been affected


           12              by this development.  We have a lot of


           13              Brownfields and I just attended a meeting


           14              over in the Providence section with Bernie


           15              McGurrel and they have a grant to start to


           16              identify brownfields, but I think they


           17              basically need the money to get the


           18              riverwalk and stuff started and I feel


           19              that's a pretty good idea.  We do need green


           20              space in the city, a city without green


           21              space becomes unlivable.  And so, therefore,


           22              what I'd like to see someday is some


           23              direction in that area taken where we start


           24              to look into building industrial parks and


           25              so forth instead of apartment houses or






            1              whatever.  The renovations are already in


            2              progress, but the only thing I could object


            3              to is sometimes it just seems like it's more


            4              and more and money, and I'll grant you this,


            5              that for the last 26 years we have had a


            6              corporate fair attitude out of Washington


            7              and any time people are enjoining the crowd


            8              or the mob, whichever you want to call it,


            9              and start contacting the Congressman and so


           10              forth.  I contact them everyday, I have


           11              letters from Kanjorski.  Remember, Bill, I


           12              give you an article on energy back around


           13              election time, 70 percent of our crude would


           14              have to be eaten up on biofuels or food


           15              production, well, Mr. Kanjorski mailed me a


           16              letter back on that.  I gave him a little


           17              speech for about a half hour the poor guy.


           18                   So some people think they are fooling


           19              people and so forth by pushing biofuels, but


           20              it's not a good idea, it's really not a good


           21              idea in all cases.  They just want to sound


           22              like they have a solution, but they really


           23              don't.  If the solution was there it would


           24              be already enacted, and I'm going to keep it


           25              short tonight.  Please, industrial






            1              facilities, look into and if we have to


            2              lobby then we lobby, if you people could do


            3              a pretty good job on the smoking ban and I


            4              was pretty well-impressed with how


            5              well-organized you were, so let's start


            6              lobbying for something else now that we have


            7              a smoking ban passed.


            8                      On 6-A, this has been a contentious


            9              situation for quite awhile now with our


           10              parks and swimming, we are getting back to


           11              swimming.  It's a grant for swimming pool


           12              conservation and improvements, well, when we


           13              pass this please, please start to consider


           14              the kids from the Hill section.  They need a


           15              place to go to.  If you put a ten-year-old


           16              kid on a bus it would cost them $3.00 just


           17              to get across town to take advantage of free


           18              swimming, so we really need to take care of


           19              people up there, too, and hopefully someday


           20              we will have free swimming.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr. Dobson.


           22              Lee Morgan.


           23                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.


           24              The first thing I have is the


           25              Scranton/Lackawanna Taxpayers' and Citizens'






            1              Association is at the school board meeting


            2              tonight.  We are a multi-dimensional


            3              organization and we are paying a lot of


            4              attention to many issues that are being


            5              propelled in this city and outside of this


            6              city, but the one thing I think that we need


            7              to first look at here is 5-C.  I think that


            8              this council should vote, no, and then let


            9              whatever is going to happen happen.  I think


           10              we have borrowed enough money.


           11                      I think that the mayor said this


           12              week that Scranton is the place you want to


           13              come to if you want to make money.  Well, if


           14              you were one of the residents living in this


           15              city you can't make enough money to pay your


           16              bills and that's why everybody is living,


           17              but I guess if you are a financial


           18              institution and you are loaning the city


           19              money, well, then the sky is the limit


           20              because this city is so -- it's debt level


           21              is so bad that it's unbelievable that there


           22              is any residents left in this city.


           23              Everybody who can is selling their house if


           24              they can.  I mean, it's pretty obvious, you


           25              can see by the amount of "For Sale" signs in






            1              this city that if people are desperate to


            2              get out of here.  We have over a 18 month


            3              supply of homes in this city for sale.


            4              People can't get out of here.  We have


            5              numerous times elected council members who


            6              said they weren't going to allow anymore


            7              borrowing and the borrowing just continued


            8              and continued and continued.  There is no


            9              money for anything, and I think that this


           10              council is under the opinion that, you know,


           11              it's just show up and get your check day as


           12              far as I'm concerned.  I mean, I have never


           13              heard this council even say where the money


           14              went to from the snow storm of 2007 on


           15              Valentine's day.  I have never heard THIS


           16              council present who the contractors were who


           17              earned all of that money.  I must have


           18              missed something.


           19                      I mean, you know, it's one thing to


           20              sit here and propel and agenda, but it's


           21              another thing to show leadership and now


           22              that we have the presidential campaign in


           23              full swing we have Mr. Obama and Mr. McCain


           24              talking about how corrupt our government


           25              is.






            1                      Now, when you see what's happened to


            2              access to council meetings and now they are


            3              trying to say that, well, make the taxpayer


            4              group won't be shown anymore.  It's


            5              absolutely ridiculous.  How could we take a


            6              public access channel off the air?  I mean,


            7              there is a good reason why in my opinion


            8              Mr. Doherty started earning money for his


            9              campaign in the next election, but to be


           10              truthful with you no matter how much money


           11              this man could raise he shouldn't serve


           12              another term as mayor in this city because


           13              this city's budget has become so bloated and


           14              the sad part is, is that that council had an


           15              opportunity to review all of the these


           16              budgets and it just didn't work the way it


           17              should have.  There is no excuse for all of


           18              the consultants, there is no excuse for


           19              what's happened to our fire department and


           20              our police department, it's just horrendous


           21              what's happened to this city, and, I mean,


           22              to sit there and just do nothing, and you


           23              know what, I equate passing this loan


           24              agreement as another case of doing nothing.


           25                   You know something, we are down there






            1              chasing Mr. McDowell with a subpoena, what


            2              happens to the ones for all the authorities


            3              in the City of Scranton?  How much money


            4              does the City of Scranton owe?  Don't you


            5              want to know?


            6                      The residents, they are trying to


            7              get out of here the few that are here are


            8              wondering how they are going to survive.


            9              They have seniors that are wondering how


           10              they are going to pay the heat bill.  We


           11              have young families starting in this city


           12              that have come here from wherever they have


           13              come from and they can't survive.


           14                      The majority of the school students


           15              are on school lunch, 20 percent of the


           16              people in this city are below the poverty


           17              level and my question is, what has this


           18              council done other than pass the mayor's


           19              agenda?  And every time a councilman


           20              resigned the mayor picked his hand-picked


           21              person and put him on this board through his


           22              whole administration, and the last time he


           23              gambled himself.  And we can't rely on the


           24              newspapers to tell what's going on here, we


           25              rely on Channel 61.  And then, Mrs. Gatelli,






            1              when you were president you decided with the


            2              mayor that maybe we should remove these


            3              cameras.  And then we went further, then we


            4              took Mr. Pilcheski into Court and anybody


            5              who raises their voice again the mayor seems


            6              to beget he treatment, and the problem is


            7              that we have got enough treatment and what


            8              we need now is leadership.  We need somebody


            9              to figure out how we are going to salvage


           10              this city or do what I said a long time ago,


           11              file bankruptcy.  The residents can't pay


           12              anymore, they are broke.  Nobody is bringing


           13              jobs here.  We have handed money to all of


           14              the special interests you can find.  Look at


           15              the mayor's political contributor's list and


           16              look at all of the people that are connected


           17              in the city, they are living well, but the


           18              ordinary everyday citizen have nothing to


           19              look forward to except debt and death.


           20              Thank you.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Morgan.


           22              Jim.


           23                      MR. STUCKER: I live on Adams Avenue


           24              now, I moved from Providence Square and I


           25              feel a lot better, and it's a lot better up






            1              there.  I have my own -- they have a stove


            2              and refrigerator and everything for me.


            3              Now, over by where I live on Mulberry Street


            4              by the soup kitchen there we need a light


            5              there, the light is out.  I mean, it don't


            6              -- the light is yellow and turns -- it's


            7              supposed to green and it don't, and John


            8              Doherty, he owes me money yet, not Mayor


            9              Doherty, John Doherty, and I moved out of


           10              his building.  There is no -- there is


           11              nothing, no shower or nothing in it, and


           12              everybody told me, come to city council and


           13              bring it up, there is only a sink and a


           14              toilet in the apartment, everybody else has


           15              except me.


           16                      Right around the corner, same


           17              building, there is mildew in the building, a


           18              lot of mildew in the building, a lot of


           19              mildew in the building.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Can you leave your


           21              address with Neil, please?


           22                      MR. STUCKER: I don't live at


           23              Providence Square anymore.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: There is where you used


           25              to live?






            1                      MR. STUCKER:  Yes.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: That's okay, still


            3              would you leave that address with Neil?


            4                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah.  219 that's


            5              where -- 219, that's where I live, 219


            6              Market, 219 Market Street.  And, Andy, I did


            7              a round in his building with the


            8              weedwhacker, my own weedwhacker, I cut the


            9              weeds and he never paid me.  He owes me $20


           10              bucks, he never paid the bill.  There are


           11              people that owe me money and they don't want


           12              to give it up.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Who is this now,


           14              Jim?


           15                      MR. STUCKER: Andy, the guy's name is


           16              Andy.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: You got to start


           18              getting your money up front before the job.


           19                      MR. STUCKER: Well, he told me he


           20              would pay me and he never gave me --


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah, you got to start


           22              saying, "I'll see the cash then I'll do your


           23              lawn."  We have been down this road; right?


           24                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah.  Yeah.  So, I


           25              hope you can do something about it, you






            1              know.  Let me see, what else.  I think


            2              that's it.  Just that light by the soup


            3              kitchen, that's all.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thanks, Jim, and good


            5              luck in your new home.


            6                      MR. STUCKER: All right.  Thank you.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mr. Davis.


            8                      MR. DAVIS: Saalam aleikum.  There is


            9              two reasons for coming here, one of which to


           10              have your problems aired and perhaps thought


           11              about and talked about and perhaps chang the


           12              conditions.  I keep coming here and talking


           13              about a condition that everybody tells me,


           14              Jim, they are not going to change it.  It's


           15              an impossibility, the homes are already


           16              gone, the community is already gone.  You


           17              have eradicated a community that was really


           18              well-formed, and for many years it was


           19              well-formed.  We had a church, the Vine


           20              Street Baptist Church that had been formed


           21              back in the early 1900's and it was wiped


           22              out with all of the it's community.  After


           23              one --from one parishioner to the next to


           24              the next and then all of the properties was


           25              gone.  Mrs. Gatelli, you are part of that






            1              action.  You were there and you saw it


            2              happen so, therefore, I can still blame the


            3              people here for what has happened to our


            4              community.


            5                      Now, you are living in a place in


            6              South Side where fires are popping up


            7              everyday, do you think a firemen is going to


            8              help you as much as he would help somebody


            9              else after the way you have treated them as


           10              far as their whole thing of, you know,


           11              getting proper retribution from the


           12              government is concerned?  I don't think so.


           13              I just don't think so.  If I were a firemen


           14              and I was asked to go to your house because


           15              of a fire I would be kind of slow.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Davis, if I might --


           17                      MS. GATELLI: That's inappropriate.


           18              I have had fire alarms at my house and they


           19              are there in 30 seconds.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Mr. Davis, I think all


           21              you're doing is insulting the firemen, quite


           22              frankly, who take their job very seriously


           23              and do their jobs.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  They would never do


           25              that.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't think you


            2              insulting Mrs. Gatelli, I think you have


            3              insulted now the fire department.


            4                      MR. DAVIS:  What this city council


            5              has done to our community is bigger than an


            6              insult.  I think it's time for you to be


            7              insulted back, and I'm insulting you,


            8              because I don't think you deserve the


            9              services of this city after the way you have


           10              treated the firemen and the policemen.  You


           11              just don't deserve it.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: I think everyone up


           13              here supports the police and firemen.


           14                      MR. DAVIS: It doesn't look like, it


           15              doesn't act like it.


           16                      MS. GATELLI: Well, I don't what else


           17              we can do.


           18                      MR. DAVIS: I mean, maybe you ought


           19              to sit out here --


           20                      MS. GATELLI: I have met with the


           21              fire and police.


           22                      MR. DAVIS: May you ought to resign


           23              so you could sit out here.


           24                      MS. GATELLI: If we could sign a


           25              contract tonight we would sign it.






            1                      MR. DAVIS: Seriously.  Maybe you


            2              should resign your position and sit out here


            3              and listen to what we hear.  What we hear --


            4                      MS. GATELLI: No, I think you should


            5              listen to what we're saying, Mr. Davis.


            6                      MR. DAVIS:  Well, I'm telling you


            7              the firemen --


            8                      MS. GATELLI: We all support the


            9              firemen and the policemen.


           10                      MR. DAVIS: --I talked to --


           11                      MS. GATELLI:  And that's the unfair


           12              for you to say that we don't.


           13                      MR. DAVIS: They say it's your


           14              faults.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  That's not true.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: How is it possible it's


           17              our fault?


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  We voted to have the


           19              policemen meet on behalf of the --


           20                      MR. DAVIS: Because the contracts are


           21              in your hands.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  The contracts are in


           23              our hands?


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  That's not helping


           25              them.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: That's actually very


            2              inaccurate.  The contracts are not in our


            3              hands.  If the contracts were in our hands,


            4              I believe they would be finished a long time


            5              ago.  So, what you are saying is very


            6              inaccurate, and I'm sure that we can get any


            7              fireman or policeman to verify that the


            8              contracts are not our hands.


            9                      MR. DAVIS: Is there any firemen


           10              here?  No.  Okay, I'll try and find someone.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  I think you should.


           12                      MR. DAVIS:  I'm going to and find


           13              someone --


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: I think that's a great


           15              idea.  Ask them if city council has let them


           16              down in not fulfilling their contracts.


           17                      MR. DAVIS: Because I know of several


           18              people who have come here and complained to


           19              you.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Complaining is one


           21              thing, but accurate information is another.


           22                      MR. DAVIS: You're right.  It's like


           23              having a wife that doesn't listen.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Exactly.  Exactly.


           25                      MR. DAVIS: Please.  Please.  We are






            1              not that dumb.  We really aren't.  Sometimes


            2              you may think that we are.  You may think


            3              that we don't have the ability to listen to


            4              you, but we do listen to you and we go home


            5              and we listen to the tapes of what you said


            6              and we know what you are saying.  These


            7              people when they come here to complain to


            8              you have their acts together because this is


            9              a tough crowd to please.  You are not -- I


           10              could say that you are not being truthful,


           11              you are not being that truthful to all of us


           12              at all times.  I know you are trying to and


           13              - but, you know, truth is a strange animal,


           14              it really is, and it's really a gamble when


           15              someone tells me I'm not telling the truth,


           16              but you know what?  We see the results of


           17              your words.  We see the results of your acts


           18              and your deeds and we don't like it and it's


           19              not -- hey --


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Davis.


           21                      MR. DAVIS: It's all we have.  It's


           22              all we have to worry about.


           23                      MS. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council.


           24              Liz Hubbard, Scranton resident and taxpayer,


           25              skunk hater.  Anyway, I really wasn't going






            1              to speak tonight, but it just occurred to me


            2              today is the anniversary of the '04 flood


            3              and we are still sitting in a disaster in


            4              lower Greenridge with no siren, no bank, no


            5              levy, although, they are started to make


            6              some progress in the 1600-block of Nay Aug,


            7              they are tearing that building down.


            8              Anyway, you are going to get ahold of Mr.


            9              Shimkus and talk to him about money for this


           10              flood, whatever you were talking about, why


           11              don't you try to get ahold of Mr. Shimkus


           12              and Mr. Smith and see if they can't get some


           13              kind of a grant to clean the skunks out of


           14              the city.


           15                      I called Senator Mellow's office the


           16              other day, that was a trip, he said that's


           17              the game commission.  I said, yeah, I know


           18              they told me that I have to hire somebody.


           19              Well, because -- and I said to him that the


           20              skunks are not only in Scranton they are up


           21              the whole valley, he said he lives in


           22              Archbald and he has them, too, but that lady


           23              that was here tonight with that, you know,


           24              if mommy skunk has five babies there's five


           25              more mommies and daddies for next year and






            1              it's disgusting, it really is.


            2                      And I just have a question, we have


            3              the 500 of Lackawanna Avenue, we have the


            4              Connell building, can anyone up there tell


            5              me the last time that there was anything of


            6              any consequence built in this city without


            7              public funds where a private developer built


            8              something without tax dollars with like


            9              using his own money?  Can anybody think of


           10              anything?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think that guy at


           12              Good Fellows didn't use any -- he didn't use


           13              any city money; right?


           14                      MS. EVANS: That's correct.


           15                      MS. HUBBARD: Where about?


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Good Fellows on


           17              Mulberry Street.


           18                      MS. HUBBARD: Yeah, but I'm talking


           19              about major projects.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  How about the nursing


           21              home in Minooka?  They didn't have any


           22              funding.


           23                      MS. HUBBARD: The what?


           24                      MS. GATELLI: The nursing home that's


           25              in Minooka.






            1                      MS. EVANS: Maybe the Oppenheim


            2              building.


            3                      MS. HUBBARD: The Connell building


            4              they want to make loft apartments, I don't


            5              know who is going to live in them, but they


            6              want to do this and they are going to make


            7              the money, but yet our money has to go to


            8              building or redoing.  I mean, it's getting


            9              ridiculous, it really is getting outrageous


           10              and we just keep electing the same people to


           11              do the same thing, and it doesn't matter


           12              what political party you are, it's all the


           13              same, public money for everything.  They


           14              forget that they pay public money, too, in


           15              the way of taxes.  Anyway, have a nice


           16              evening, and please do something about the


           17              skunks.


           18                      MS. GATELLI: I know, we have to.


           19                      MS. HUBBARD: The two and the


           20              four-legged kind.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


           22                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South


           23              Scranton resident.  First of all, Mrs.


           24              Fanucci left, but she brought up about the


           25              school board meeting.  The Scranton/






            1              Lackawanna County Taxpayers' Association is


            2              at that meeting and will be representing the


            3              citizens of Scranton as best we can.


            4                       Also, in regards to the


            5              Commissioner's meeting, the


            6              Scranton/Lackawanna Taxpayers' Association


            7              is well ahead of the city council because we


            8              have sent letters to Corey O'Brien and Mike


            9              Washo months ago and received responses from


           10              them and basically their response was, the


           11              meeting will continue at 10:00 because


           12              that's their normal hours of operation and


           13              they have to have their staff members


           14              available for the meeting.  We even


           15              suggested that they have one meeting a month


           16              at night or they have one meeting every six


           17              months at night and, again, we got the same


           18              answer, we don't have that problem in the


           19              city because the mayor never shows up at the


           20              meeting and he never sends any of his


           21              representative here, plus four of the people


           22              on city council have day jobs, so that's why


           23              the meetings stay at 7:00.


           24                      As far as skunks, I encounter two


           25              skunks every morning, Monday through






            1              Saturday at 6 a.m. when I go to work, and I


            2              walk from my front to my back to get into my


            3              vehicle.  One of these days who knows, if it


            4              happens you will be one of the first to know


            5              about it.  But, anyway, the skunk problem is


            6              terrible, you can't go into an area in this


            7              city without smelling skunks, seeing skunk,


            8              people are afraid to go out in their back


            9              yards, front yards, go for walks, whatever.


           10                   The primary responsibility of any


           11              elected official, whether it be a mayor,


           12              whether it be a city council man or whether


           13              it be a tax collector, it doesn't matter, an


           14              elected official's primary responsibility is


           15              to provide for the safety and the protection


           16              of it's people, the people who elected them.


           17              That is not being done.  You may laugh about


           18              skunks and we may think it's funny, but it's


           19              not.  It's a serious problem.  Skunks spread


           20              rabies quicker than dogs do and if anyone


           21              has ever been sprayed by a skunk it's not


           22              going to be a very pleasant thing.  This


           23              problem needs to be resolved.  I agree


           24              Representative Shimkus, Representative Smith


           25              should be contacted, city council should






            1              have done this a long time ago because Mrs.


            2              Hubbard has been talking about this.


            3                      Last week we were told, I was told


            4              how hard you people work.  We bring problems


            5              to you as residents but we never see


            6              results.  Never.  It's either forgotten


            7              about, you know, I have over 40 questions


            8              that I have asked city council in the last


            9              two years that I have not received answers


           10              for.  I have sent e-mails, I get a


           11              one-sentence answer to an e-mail.  Now, how


           12              much research and time was put into that?  I


           13              mean, seriously.


           14                      Now, speaking of e-mails, today I


           15              was on the Scranton.pa.gov website and I


           16              happened to go onto the OECD.  Now, this is


           17              an official government website from the City


           18              of Scranton and I hit the consolidated plan.


           19              And I quote, this is right on the government


           20              website OECD, and I quote, "The median


           21              family income in Scranton is $39,233 which


           22              is 21.6 less than the national median family


           23              income of $50,046.  The per capita income in


           24              the city is $16,174 which is 25.1 less than


           25              the national per capita income."






            1                      This is a right on our website


            2              advertising our city, and we are telling


            3              everybody don't come to Scranton because you


            4              are not going to make any money.  But I got


            5              to give them credit because they are being


            6              honest and being truthful.  The good part


            7              about all of this is that the date on this,


            8              2004, four years ago on the Scranton.pa.gov


            9              website OECD.


           10                      We all know the situation has gotten


           11              worse in this town, so, please, please, I


           12              beg you, do not pass any tax increases, do


           13              not approve anymore borrowing until you can


           14              resolve the problems within the city and


           15              that includes the skunks.  We need to do


           16              something for the citizens, the police


           17              officers, the fire department, safety.  The


           18              primary responsibility of any elected


           19              official is to provide for the safety of


           20              their citizens.  You are not doing it.  You


           21              are allowing this mayor to walk all over


           22              you.  If I was on city council, if I had to


           23              sit on the mayor's front porch I would sit


           24              on his front porch for a week and a half if


           25              I had to.  Do something for the citizens for






            1              once.  Thank you.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Tank you, Mr. Jackowitz.


            3                      MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.


            4              Nancy Krake.  I have an article here that


            5              was in September 13th Pittsburgh Trib


            6              Review, the title is "Big Mess.  How Many


            7              Others?"  "Big problems about the


            8              questionable finances of the Beaver


            9              Initiative Growth, better known as BIG


           10              suggested bigger problems with the State


           11              Department of Community and Economic


           12              Development."


           13                      These are the folks that sent the


           14              Pennsylvania Economy League here and


           15              allegedly oversee them.  "The DCED doesn't


           16              know what exactly happened to millions of


           17              dollars in state grants that went to the


           18              scandalous guard at Beaver County Nonprofit


           19              BIG.  Essentially, this was a dubious


           20              two-man enterprise cooked up by Democrats


           21              Mike Veon, the disgraced former house whip


           22              charged with theft, conflict of interest and


           23              criminal conspiracy, and State Senator


           24              Gerald McGowan.  Mr. Veon, who bragged about


           25              the funding money to BIG is accused of






            1              directing a multi-million dollar


            2              collaboration at the taxpayers' expense.


            3                   While there are some records about


            4              failed projects, thanks to extensions


            5              granted by the DCED," which all of this


            6              should read extremely familiar with council,


            7              "the state still doesn't have a full


            8              accounting.  Some of the audits for these


            9              projects were due two years ago.  How could


           10              this have gone on for years without proper


           11              state supervision?"


           12                      It seems awfully familiar.  An


           13              agency spokesman says, "The information is


           14              expected soon, reassured the Department of


           15              Community and Economic Development long has


           16              been a bad joke.  It has dolled out millions


           17              of public dollars with little or no


           18              accountability and too often has served as a


           19              perverted gate keeper in providing funding


           20              that government, not the marketplace deems


           21              worthy."


           22                      I believe this was Mr. Sbaraglia's


           23              point earlier.  If BIG is the rule rather


           24              than the exception, and the public should


           25              expect as much, how many other state funding






            1              recipients are misusing, misplacing or


            2              simply stealing taxpayer dollars?  It's


            3              clear that this is happening in Scranton.


            4              The State Department of Community and


            5              Economic Development through the


            6              Pennsylvania Economy League has allowed this


            7              man and his administration to make financial


            8              choices whose consequences the citizens of


            9              this city will be paying for a long time to


           10              come.


           11                      For example, three persons of this


           12              council have voted to raise your taxes


           13              27 percent, Mrs. Gatelli, Mrs. Fanucci,


           14              Mr. McGoff.  For borrowing it costs


           15              $16 million each year even before any money


           16              can be appropriated we have to start the tab


           17              running.  This city owes $16 million in debt


           18              payments on long-term borrowing every single


           19              year January 1.  You are about to make that


           20              larger, I suspect.


           21                      Also, for approving budgets that


           22              have ballooned 30 million since this mayor


           23              took office versus the $4 million that Mayor


           24              Connors was allowed to raise his budget


           25              under the same Pennsylvania economy






            1              guidelines.  That's fascinating.  I have a


            2              question, will the people of Scranton hold


            3              accountable the persons responsible for the


            4              financial choices that have been made, Mrs.


            5              Gatelli, Mrs. Fanucci and Mr. McGoff.  It


            6              has not been the police and fire department


            7              or any of the worker for that matter, in


            8              fact, police and fire have had little impact


            9              on the budget rise except for the rise in


           10              their chief salaries.


           11                      And, by the way, Mrs. Fanucci, I


           12              don't believe the question is why aren't we


           13              at that meeting of the school district, it's


           14              why didn't the school district and the


           15              county declare distress?


           16                      And I also believe that that nursing


           17              home was KOZ, although, I'm not sure.  Thank


           18              you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.


           20                      MR. ANCHERANI:  Good evening.


           21              Nelson Ancherani, resident and taxpayer.  I


           22              also wasn't going to speak tonight until I


           23              went on the Times website and I saw


           24              "Scranton City Council to vote for the


           25              refinancing 5.5 million."






            1                      Up to that point I didn't know it


            2              was on the agenda, I hadn't read it.  Now I


            3              see it's 5-C, but it's 6.1 million instead


            4              of 5.5.  In that Times-Tribune, Scranton


            5              City Council will vote on refinancing


            6              5.5 million, "As city council be asked


            7              tonight to approve the refinancing of


            8              $5.5 million loan that was taken out three


            9              years ago to cover budget expenses."


           10                      That is the year that the money


           11              started being accumulated and the hidden


           12              12.2 million in the plus Scranton Tax Office


           13              account.  Then it goes back, "The original


           14              deadline to repay the bond was December 15,


           15              but Mayor Chris Doherty's administration


           16              will seek legislation to stretch the payment


           17              plan over the next 17 years."


           18                      Mr. McGoff, the budget isn't


           19              supposed to be presented to council until


           20              November 15.  I predict a multi-million


           21              dollar loan for that budget, but I see you


           22              are getting a head start on borrowing.


           23                      Back to the article, "Business


           24              administrator, Stu Renda, says he expects


           25              the usual outspoken criticism pointed at the






            1              debt Mr. Doherty has accrued, but Mr. Renda


            2              said that the political differences aside,


            3              this is different than debating whether to


            4              borrow more money.  This is a loan that's


            5              already owed and not refinancing could cause


            6              the city to default."


            7                      Why is it still owed?  Why wasn't it


            8              budget in the three succeeding years?  Three


            9              preceding years, I'm sorry.  If that 12


           10              million two plus wasn't in that unknown


           11              account we wouldn't need to borrow any


           12              money.  There is no way that -- the article,


           13              "There is no way Mr. Renda said that


           14              Scranton has the ability to repay it now.


           15              We barely have money to pay our bills.


           16                      Mr. Renda and Ray Lowry of PNC


           17              Bank are meeting with Council for early


           18              caucus at 5:45 p.m. to discuss the


           19              refinancing which would need another two


           20              readings if the legislation advances.  With


           21              interest, the city owes 5.8 million.  The


           22              ordinance for refinancing sets a maximum


           23              principle amount of 6.1 million."


           24                      Maybe if Mr. Renda didn't get a


           25              $46,000 increase since he started working






            1              for the city we would have some money to pay


            2              some of the bills.  Don't forget, we have


            3              $350 million long-term debt.  Also,


            4              $15 million in raises and new hires since


            5              Mr. Doherty took office.


            6                      Back to the article, "The new


            7              repayment plan also comes with costs from


            8              marketing fees and an annual letter of


            9              credit which acts as bond insurance, almost


           10              an additional two million over the 17 years.


           11              Seventeen years.  What will the final


           12              payment, final total payback be, almost


           13              triple the loan?


           14                      Last week we are talking about the


           15              UDAG grants.  If there is no accountable for


           16              UDAG grants does that mean the city can go


           17              out and have a nice big party and just say,


           18              "No council approval," and we could go out


           19              and we could have a nice big party, I guess


           20              that's what that means.


           21                      What happened at the earlier caucus,


           22              I know in motions maybe somebody could cover


           23              that, I didn't know about that until I read


           24              this, and maybe the city wouldn't be in such


           25              a mess if we didn't put on a millionaire






            1              front with a hobo hind end.  Thank you.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            3              Mr. Ancherani.  Chris.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: Chrissy, no hat for me?


            5                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: No hat, Jude.  Well,


            6              Janet, what do you think of me coming here


            7              to Scranton?  I'm over with you guys now,


            8              right, Janet?


            9                      MS. EVANS: Way to go, Chris.  Let's


           10              take it all the way.


           11                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Billy, I'm sorry


           12              what I said about you the other night.  I'm


           13              sorry I said that about you and I'm sorry


           14              about what happened, all right?


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No problem.


           16                      MR. SLEDENZSKI:  What do you think,


           17              Jude, West Side (inaudible) back to


           18              Scranton.  That's where I'm going to stay.


           19              Baby.


           20                      MS. GATELLI: Maybe I'll have to


           21              follow you over there, Chrissy.


           22                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Yeah, follow me


           23              over.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Any other speakers?


           25              Thank you.  Mrs. Evans.






            1                      MS. EVANS: Good evening.  On


            2              tonight's council agenda legislation to


            3              borrow 6.11 million in 2008 appears.  This


            4              comes as no surprise since the mayor has


            5              borrowed consecutively each year since 2003


            6              when he initiated the Doherty debt with 74


            7              million in borrowing.  Including the 2004,


            8              2006, and new 2008 lease revenue bonds, the


            9              city will owe a total of 20.1 million


           10              dollars for the DPW, which incidentally, is


           11              owned by the Sewer Authority.


           12                      In 2001, the final year of the


           13              Connor's administration, the operating


           14              budget was $55,790.  $2.9 million in surplus


           15              was gifted to the new mayor.  In 2002, when


           16              Mr. Doherty first took office, the city


           17              budget increased to $57,497.  Today, 2008,


           18              the city budget has ballooned to


           19              $84,558,000, an increase of over 27 million


           20              in seven years.  And, remember, the police


           21              and firefighters, big ticket items have


           22              never received a pay increase.  They remain


           23              the same as they were in 2002.  At the same


           24              time, one out of every five Scrantonians


           25              lives in poverty and well over half of our






            1              children receive free or reduced price


            2              lunches at school.


            3                      The 2002 long-term debt was


            4              palatable compared to the over one quarter


            5              billion dollars and growing principal and


            6              interest we see today in 2008.  Have costs


            7              increased?  Absolutely, yes, for every local


            8              government and for each of us as well.  The


            9              necessities of life grow more expensive each


           10              year and sometimes every month.


           11                      Each year since 2004 I have warned


           12              Mr. Doherty and council about his borrowing


           13              and spending habits, urging cuts and cost


           14              saving measures without decreasing public


           15              services.  Particularly, in our recent


           16              economy, companies across our nation and in


           17              our city as well have cut their budget to


           18              offset rising costs.  They are scaling back


           19              on expenses by trimming capital spending,


           20              reducing jobs and slashing travel budgets.


           21              They are digging deep to find savings.


           22                   Unfortunately, Mr. Doherty doesn't see


           23              fit to do the same.  He promised to run this


           24              city like a business and as CEO he and his


           25              board of directors have reaped the profits






            1              while we as shareholders have been handed


            2              the bills.  Rather than cutting and digging


            3              deep to create savings, the mayor comes


            4              before you with his hand out once again.


            5              The citizens are buried in Doherty debt,


            6              yet, Mr. Doherty is looking for $6.1 million


            7              more.


            8                      Some may call this refinancing, but


            9              when the mayor continues to borrow to pay


           10              off borrowing and he is basing borrowing on


           11              warm and fuzzy comfort levels and visions


           12              and hopes shared with banks you might be


           13              better served to call these interminable


           14              agreements insane.  Most of us have had


           15              enough of his BS, borrow and spend policies.


           16                   On a brighter note, I am pleased to


           17              learn that Merrill Lynch, as far as we know,


           18              will return to Scranton and take up


           19              residence in the long vacant Southern Union


           20              building in October.  I am happy that this


           21              beautiful building will be occupied by


           22              several tenants and that Mr. Donahue


           23              received such a good deal, five million for


           24              a $16 million building.  I hope the presence


           25              of Merrill Lynch will attract other notable






            1              businesses who will provide jobs to our


            2              residents and a financial injection into our


            3              economy.  Just one important fact the


            4              newspaper failed to mention, KOEZ.  As for


            5              taxes, the city covers will have to wait


            6              until the KOEZ on the Southern Union


            7              building expires and so for now half a glass


            8              is better than none.


            9                      And today, in fact, I received as


           10              I'm sure my colleagues have, a beautiful


           11              colored brochure, "The Scranton Plan


           12              Property Profile," and it illustrates and


           13              provides information concerning properties


           14              that are available for lease or sale


           15              throughout Lackawanna County, but what I


           16              found notable as I admired all of these


           17              beautiful buildings and locations is that


           18              those properties that were KOEZ are only


           19              those properties located in Scranton.  When


           20              we travel outside the area to Olyphant,


           21              Dickson City, Moosic, no KOZ'S.


           22                      Attorney Minora has determined that


           23              apparently council can amend the ordinance


           24              of 1991 to provide that the use and


           25              disbursement of UDAG repayment funds must be






            1              approved by city council, and I believe he


            2              will be further researching and working on


            3              that matter for us to present us with a


            4              draft of legislation as soon as he can.


            5                      MR. MINORA: Glad to.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  And in


            7              response to an agreement, or rather I should


            8              in response to an in agreement with a


            9              request made by Mrs. Dolan this evening, I


           10              move that city council request that the


           11              mayor hire contractors to address citywide


           12              problems with skunks.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           15                      MS. GATELLI: The only thing I would


           16              suggest also is that maybe we could include


           17              it in our block grant funding as a request


           18              of city council.  I would think that many of


           19              the neighborhoods are low to moderate income


           20              and some of them could be paid for with


           21              those funds.


           22                      MS. EVANS: Well, I think we will


           23              have to -- I think we can inject that into


           24              the proposal, but I think the mayor is going


           25              to need to examine the funding sources as






            1              well.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the


            3              question?  All in favor signify by saying


            4              aye.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           10              ayes have it and so moved.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Also, we received about a


           12              week ago yet another report from the


           13              Scranton Tax Office, the subject of which is


           14              tax collection comparables, and I just have


           15              to say that the tax office is doing a good


           16              job in my opinion.  They are bringing in


           17              increased collections and they are providing


           18              information, information that was designated


           19              by state law and I just wanted to recognize


           20              them for that.  I am impressed and I am


           21              hoping for a resolution of that audit as


           22              soon as possible, but in the mean time kudos


           23              to Mr. McGovern and Mrs. Vitali.


           24                      And I did want to say that finally,


           25              my computer had been incapacitated for the






            1              last week, however, it is up and running


            2              again.  I don't have citizens' requests for


            3              the week, but assuredly I will next week and


            4              that's it.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: I was going to suggest


            6              that perhaps Merrill Lynch could attract


            7              Lehman Brothers then we could have two


            8              companies that are -- sorry.  Mrs. Gatelli.


            9                      MS. GATELLI: I just have a few


           10              responses from also week.  I spoke to Donny


           11              King regarding the people that live in the


           12              flood zone where it has already been


           13              repaired that are still being required to


           14              carry flood insurance.  He told me that the


           15              maps are not changed yet by FEMA and the


           16              Army Corp is working through the process.


           17              Even through the Albright has been done for


           18              years now, the process for the whole area


           19              has not been completed, therefore, everyone


           20              is required to have flood insurance.


           21                      The other thing was the open burning


           22              in the outdoor fireplaces of which some of


           23              us have been getting complaints.  There was


           24              an ordinance in 1970, the air pollution


           25              control ordinance, where the city banned






            1              open burning.  Rob Farrell sent a memo in


            2              '02 to Chief Davis and Shawn Flynn:  "It is


            3              clear from the ordinance that the any open


            4              burning must be done in a container which


            5              has a flue to accommodate the smoke and


            6              embers.  The BOCCA Fire Prevention Code also


            7              has a section preventing open burning.  The


            8              code officials shall prohibit open burning


            9              that will be offensive or objectionable due


           10              to smoke or odor.  The fire department


           11              considers it to be hazardous to allow


           12              backyard fires in containers such as


           13              chimineas without some form of screening to


           14              prevent burning embers to escape."


           15                      So, reading the applicable ordinance


           16              and the BOCCA provisions outdoor stoves are


           17              permissible with both a flue and proper


           18              screening.  So anyone that has one in their


           19              neighborhood that is bothering them should


           20              call the fire department or license and


           21              inspections, both have the right to check on


           22              those issues.


           23                      In response to the status of the


           24              audit, I have sent letters to Northeast


           25              Credit and Mary Lou Vitali of which I have






            1              not received a response yet from either


            2              person, so I am awaiting them and I will


            3              give you my report as I get the responses,


            4              and that's all I have.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: Excuse me for minute,


            6              Mrs. Gatelli, I did speak to Mary Lou


            7              Vitali, she called in response to the letter


            8              that I sent out, and Attorney McGovern is


            9              going to be collecting that information and


           10              passing it on to Rossi and Company soon they


           11              hope.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Oh, good.  Thank you,


           13              Mrs. Garvey.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: I was asked by


           15              Mrs. Evans for requests for two -- the


           16              information regarding the Connell building


           17              and Wolfington from last week.  Wolfington


           18              was the developer who is going to do the


           19              first project at the Connell building, they


           20              are not doing their project now, there is a


           21              new project, but, no, they did not receive


           22              any funding for that, and this new company


           23              is not look for the tax abatement that


           24              Flemington was when they came to see us, so


           25              they are not looking for any further funding






            1              than what we have.


            2                      MS. EVANS: So, it's a different


            3              group?


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes.  They are a


            5              totally different group and not looking for


            6              -- they are not even structured the same


            7              way, so they are not looking for anymore


            8              money.


            9                      MS. EVANS: Everything is up-to-date.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Everything is


           11              up-to-date, yes.  In fact, they are ready to


           12              go, which is good a thing.


           13                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Sure.  Also, I wanted


           15              to talk about the refinancing.  This was not


           16              new information for us.  We knew that this


           17              would be coming about.  Anybody who is at


           18              home with their balloon payments and have


           19              been hit with that understands exactly what


           20              we are doing and why we are doing it.  Lower


           21              payments, it's just like you at home when


           22              you refinance your house your payment goes


           23              lower.  When you took out your loan the


           24              first time around it was not as low and then


           25              you took out the balloon payment, you






            1              understand exactly how big of a hit that has


            2              been, and the city is not any different than


            3              you who are running your small financial


            4              institution for yourself at home.  You need


            5              to try to save money and do the best and I


            6              will be obviously voting for that and I knew


            7              I was going to be voting for that, so this


            8              is not a new thing for me.  I don't consider


            9              this, you know, new borrowing.  It is pretty


           10              much just a refinancing, so I wanted to


           11              spike on that.


           12                      Also, I do want to send a letter,


           13              make a motion to send a letter to our county


           14              commissioners on behalf of the speakers


           15              here, asking them if they can please start


           16              to have some of their meetings on evenings


           17              when the taxpayers could come and actually


           18              voice their opinions to them.  And as side


           19              note, we have had no problem having any our


           20              caucuses, people are willing to come in the


           21              evening, in fact, it is actually easier to


           22              get people here in the evening because it


           23              doesn't have to go through work schedule, so


           24              I'm doing that in the form of a motion.


           25                      MS. EVANS: Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            2              in favor?


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            8              ayes have it and so moved.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Thank you, and that is


           10              all I have.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Kay, if I could have


           12              you send a combined letter to Ray Hays,


           13              Director of Public Safety, there is some


           14              type of problem with the police motorcycles


           15              that they haven't been on the road for


           16              several days now and if you could update us


           17              on what's going on, why the motorcycles


           18              aren't on the road, I have a general idea,


           19              but if you can get specific as to why they


           20              are not there and when they are going to be


           21              out on the road.


           22                      Also, it was my understanding that


           23              the sorely needed cars in the police


           24              department were supposed to be arriving


           25              July, they haven't seen those yet, so if you






            1              can just fill us in on where they are.


            2                      Mark Migliori early on had given me


            3              his cell phone number, and I called and it


            4              says it was temporarily out of service.  Kay


            5              asked him for his new cell phone number so


            6              I'm going to try and contact him, but I was


            7              going to suggest that possibly they ran the


            8              meetings when they wanted to do, one replay


            9              at least three times and now what I had two


           10              people tell me in the past week is that


           11              because of their work schedule two of the


           12              three times that they run the meeting they


           13              are not able to see it so if the one time


           14              they play if they aren't working they can't


           15              see it, so if at the would consider


           16              replaying the meeting a few more times I


           17              think at least those two people would


           18              appreciate it.


           19                      The live feed, I'm not quite sure


           20              what that problem is, they are telling me


           21              it's not financial, and this is probably way


           22              out there, but is it possible for Scranton


           23              Today to operate until these guys get up and


           24              running?  I have no idea when they are going


           25              to get their money to get their equipment, I






            1              don't have any idea when they are going to


            2              give their live feed or could they use the


            3              live feed that Scranton Today has?  I don't


            4              know if it's a matter of location or what


            5              the problem is, but --


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm going to have a


            7              suggestion, I believe that the equipment


            8              should be ours.  I believe in the beginning


            9              we give a grant for that equipment, so I am


           10              wondering if the equipment is by rights, you


           11              know, for the city and if that was provided


           12              or whatever we actually own the equipment,


           13              so that might be something that we need to


           14              look into because I know when it started off


           15              it was an initial -- there was initial


           16              monies given for the purchase of that


           17              equipment in the beginning.


           18                      MS. EVANS: I have information on


           19              that at home, yes, and I can bring that in


           20              next week to try to verify what you are


           21              saying because my recollection serves from


           22              having read that probably more than two


           23              months ago, it seemed to be quite the


           24              opposite that, you know, this was indeed


           25              their equipment because it was not purchased






            1              through any government funds.  They


            2              conducted fundraisers and they were quite a


            3              number of other particular --


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: In the beginning they


            5              weren't private.  In the beginning they were


            6              not a privates entity.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: Scranton Tomorrow.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Scranton Tomorrow was


            9              the one and actually we gave funding to


           10              Scranton Tomorrow for Scranton Today, so I'm


           11              wondering and, in fact, I was wondering


           12              anywhere where is that equipment and is that


           13              our equipment anyway because I know that we


           14              started off with Scranton Tomorrow.


           15                      MS. EVANS: Right.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: And that we did, so,


           17              yeah, that would be great if you looked into


           18              that so we can se, maybe that will help,


           19              Bill, I'm sorry.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No, that's all


           21              right.


           22                      MS. EVANS: I'll have that for you


           23              for next week.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay, great.  I


           25              mean, I don't know, obviously, I shouldn't






            1              say anybody, but most people aren't happy


            2              with the way things are going.  They haven't


            3              been able to do meetings that they wanted to


            4              do, they haven't been able to program like


            5              they want to program.  There is no live


            6              feed.  If this is going to go on


            7              indefinitely, is it that farfetched to let


            8              Scranton Today step back in and run it until


            9              they get up and running properly?  I don't


           10              know, is that asking too much?


           11                      So, I will get the new phone number


           12              off of Kay and I will ask Mark if he has a


           13              time frame on when these problems are going


           14              to be resolved.  I'm sure they would like to


           15              get them resolved, but now the complaints


           16              are continual about no programming on the


           17              TV, no live shows, no zoning, no this, no


           18              that.  I am going to repeat myself, I really


           19              think they should have ran the station, both


           20              of them run parallel until we were up and


           21              running 100 percent, and now we are


           22              presented with a problem that I don't think


           23              anybody is happy with.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: The zoning is on now.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: The zoning is on






            1              now?  Okay?  So, I will get that number off


            2              of Kay tomorrow, the new number, or I'll try


            3              Mark's number, it says it's only temporarily


            4              out of service so maybe something was wrong


            5              with it.


            6                      One thing I would like to bring up,


            7              someone mentioned, I forget who it was at


            8              the podium, about police officers not


            9              getting raises and firefighters not getting


           10              raises, but I think the thing that many


           11              people do forget, and the speaker, whoever


           12              it was mentioned this, that you got to


           13              remember something, the retired police


           14              officers and their wives, their husbands


           15              that are left behind, the retired


           16              firefighters, the only time they get any


           17              kind of raise is when the active members get


           18              a raise and then they get half of it, so


           19              they too or suffering and most of them are


           20              of retirement age or maybe they can't work


           21              now, so for six or seven years they too have


           22              not gotten a raise so I think we need to


           23              remember them, also.  And I hope that


           24              something can be resolved in the near


           25              future.






            1                      I'm going to speak because I'm sure


            2              when the voting comes up on the borrowing or


            3              whatever name you want to get it there is


            4              going to a lot of speaking so I will do my


            5              speaking now.  I had hoped years back in I


            6              believe it was 2005 when the loan was given


            7              that the mayor would have come up with some


            8              kind of solution.  We recessed twice during


            9              our meeting, went in the back room, called


           10              Lynn Krushefski, I have rehashed this story


           11              I don't know how many times, I really hate


           12              to bring it up again, but my hope was that


           13              they would figure out a way to cut spending


           14              and we wouldn't have to have anymore


           15              borrowing.


           16                      Almost each and every year that I


           17              sat on this council I have seen this happen.


           18              We, when I say "we", council, I mean, this


           19              council, the council that I served with


           20              previously, we have almost no say on how the


           21              money is spent, how the jobs are given out,


           22              who gets the raises, but each and every year


           23              it's put to us to come with a solution, you


           24              know, it's dropped on our doorstep and, I


           25              mean, I understand that's the way it's






            1              always been suggested in the past to how we


            2              can rectify these problems with other


            3              budgets and they didn't pass it, and that's


            4              the way government works, I guess, but I


            5              don't want say I didn't create the problems


            6              so don't ask me to fix it, but I think it's


            7              kind of unfair.  It's always laid on our


            8              doorstep almost each and every year that I


            9              have sat on this council there has been a


           10              problem and we are the ones that are


           11              supposed to come up with the solutions.


           12                      I understand when you come to the


           13              podium and say, "You, council, council


           14              council," all of speakers say, well,


           15              remember, the mayor is guy with the power,


           16              he is the guy that's doing the spending, all


           17              right?  Understandably, you can't talk to


           18              him because he is not sitting here, but I


           19              know I have tried, the five years that I


           20              have been here to try and do something to no


           21              avail, but I'll leave it at that I'm sure


           22              once the vote come up there will be a lot


           23              more speaking on it, and that's all I have.


           24              Thank you.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,






            1              Mr. Courtright.  Just a few brief things,


            2              I'll call about the -- I'll try and get


            3              Mr. Renda about the Fidelity accounts, but


            4              actually the account that we are talking


            5              about wasn't a city account, it was an


            6              account with the Single Tax Office, so I


            7              don't even know if we have any accounts in


            8              anyway with Fidelity Bank.  That one wasn't


            9              a city account.  Also, the people who are


           10              speaking about Cameron Avenue, North Cameron


           11              Avenue, I did have a call to DPW and


           12              Mr. Brazil was going to try and get in touch


           13              with the city engineer and I asked if they


           14              would then meet with me and perhaps someone


           15              from the Sewer Authority and go to North


           16              Cameron Avenue and take a look at the


           17              situation and see if there is any -- see if


           18              there was anything that could be done in the


           19              present rather than waiting for future, you


           20              know, possibility of dealing on Keyser


           21              Avenue and so.  The gentleman that had


           22              contacted me originally is becoming quite


           23              desperate with the flooding that occurs on


           24              North Cameron Avenue, I have yet to hear


           25              back from Mr. Brazil and whether we have






            1              arranged any meeting with the engineer, but


            2              I will try and expedite that if I can and


            3              hopefully at least get some type of answer


            4              as to whether there is something that we can


            5              do in the present or whether it is something


            6              that is more long range.


            7                      Also, as far as the outdoor burning,


            8              as I was reading through that, I think we


            9              should also perhaps look into that the


           10              original legislation provided for an air


           11              pollution control monitor or something and I


           12              don't think we have one of those anymore, I


           13              least I haven't heard you one.


           14                      MS. EVANS: No, there was a


           15              Department of Health at that time as well.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sure that there is


           17              somebody that inspects, but there were some


           18              very specific guidelines for how to measure


           19              whether something was in violation of the


           20              law.  I don't know what the -- I don't know


           21              what the Ringelmann Smoke Chart is, but


           22              that's what they were referencing, but


           23              perhaps it would be something to at least


           24              when we again talk with Chief Davis and see


           25              if there is somebody that actually does go






            1              out and investigate those things and perhaps


            2              get some resolution there.


            3                      And one thing that also is on the


            4              agenda for this evening, the CDBG grants, we


            5              received those just recently and even more


            6              recently we received a list of all


            7              applicants for the grants.  We have not


            8              necessarily had an adequate amount of time


            9              to review those and while we are under some


           10              time constraints for dealing with those


           11              grants so that the money is not lost, I have


           12              asked council if we can in some way move


           13              that into it's proper committee this evening


           14              and also the time frame allows us 30 days


           15              after the second reading for a public


           16              hearing so that we do have time to review


           17              them and perhaps edit that list in some


           18              meaningful way.  Just so people know that


           19              what is being presented tonight is probably


           20              not a final listing of the grants, there


           21              will probably be amendments to that, but


           22              because of the time constraints we do need


           23              to expedite it somewhat.


           24                      And also I will ask that there was a


           25              question about whether someone from OECD






            1              should be here when we finally have a public


            2              hearing, I will make that request to OECD


            3              that someone -- that the night that we do


            4              have the public hearing on the block grants


            5              that someone be here in case there are


            6              questions that we may have or someone else


            7              may have about them, and that is all.  Thank


            8              you.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR


           10              INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING


           11              THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY


           12              OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO AN






           15              TO TITLE TO A PARCEL OF LAND COMMONLY KNOWN


           16              AS 810 HERTZ COURT TO THE CITY OF SCRANTON


           17              AND FOR ACCEPTANCE OF PAYMENT IN FULL FOR




           19              SATISFACTION OF THE DEMOLITION LIEN.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           21              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be


           22              introduced into it's proper committee.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All






            1              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            7              ayes have it and so moved.


            8                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -


            9              AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE LEASE OF




           11              AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON,


           12              PENNSYLVANIA (THE "AUTHORITY') PURSUANT TO A








           16              HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,100,000),




           18              OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA, 53


           19              PA.C.S, CHAPTERS 80-82, AS AMENDED, KNOWN AS


           20              THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNIT DEBT ACT;




           22              UNDER THE DEBT ACT AS LEASE RENTAL DEBT TO


           23              BE EVIDENCED BY A CERTAIN SUBLEASE AND










            1              BY THE AUTHORITY TO FINANCE A PROJECT FOR


            2              THE AUTHORITY CONSISTING OF ALL OR ANY OF


            3              THE FOLLOWS: (1) ACQUIRING THE AUTHORITY'S










            8              NOTES, SERIES OF 2005; AND (2) PAYING THE


            9              COSTS AND EXPENSES OF FINANCING SUCH








           13              LEASE REVENUE BONDS TO BE A PROJECT OF THE


           14              CITY FOR WHICH LEASE RENTAL DEBT IS TO BE




           16              TO PREPARE, CERTIFY AND FILE WITH THE






           19              SECTION 8110 OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT UNIT




           21              A DEBT STATEMENT AND BORROWING BASE


           22              CERTIFICATE; APPROVING THE FORM OF AND












            1              AGREEMENT; SPECIFYING THE AMOUNT OF THE






            4              SOURCES OF PAYMENT OF SUCH GUARANTY






            7              TO THE EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE






           10              OFFICERS OF THE CITY TO TAKE ALL REQUIRED,




           12              CONNECTION WITH SUCH PROJECT AND THE


           13              EXECUTION AND DELIVERY OF THE LEASE


           14              AGREEMENT AND SUBLEASE AND GUARANTY


           15              AGREEMENT; APPROVING THE FORM AND












           21              ORDINANCE; AND DECLARING SAID PROJECT




           23              OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           25              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be






            1              introduced into it's proper committee.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


            5              Anyone?


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  I would just like


            7              Attorney Minora to, maybe he is not the


            8              right person, but I think he is, I'd like


            9              someone to put it in writing that this is


           10              not borrowing, that is refinancing of, you


           11              know, an old loan.


           12                      MR. MINORA:  Well, I don't know if


           13              that's a legal question, but I think that's


           14              what the ordinance itself says.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  Because people are


           16              saying that we are borrowing and I said I


           17              wouldn't borrow anymore money, and I would


           18              be uncomfortable if I did.  I have been


           19              under the assumption that this is just a


           20              refinancing like the county did several


           21              weeks ago, they refinanced, you know, quite


           22              a bit of their money, too, and if we don't


           23              make a payment in default I don't know what


           24              the consequences of that would be, so I want


           25              to be assured by someone with authority






            1              other than the mayor to say that, yes, this


            2              is a refinancing, this is not new borrowing.


            3                      MR. MINORA:  I'm not the guy then.


            4              Someone with authority, I don't think that's


            5              me.


            6                      MS. EVANS: What about Mr. Renda, I'm


            7              sure he would being happy to say that.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't know if that's


            9              works either.


           10                      MS. EVANS: He is the business


           11              administrator.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: Maybe I'll call my


           13              accountant tomorrow and ask.


           14                      MR. MINORA: There you go.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: Do you think he has the


           16              authority, Amil?


           17                      MR. MINORA: Well, I think he has the


           18              know how anyway.


           19                      MS. GATELLI: Okay.  That's the only


           20              thing I'm going to -- I'm going to vote to


           21              introduce it, but I'm not comfortable if


           22              it's new borrowing.  I wouldn't be


           23              comfortable with that.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: I did ask the question


           25              during the caucus as to what the amount, the






            1              additional amount would be --


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: With the loan.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: -- to the city and I'm


            4              not sure that I ever got a response.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  No, you didn't.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: The best that I can


            7              figure, and I did talk to Mr. Renda after we


            8              left and he asked me if I did got an


            9              adequate answer and I told him, no, and we


           10              talked very briefly.  The best I can figure


           11              is that there will be an additional cost to


           12              the city of approximately $4.7 million over


           13              18 years, but at the same time it does


           14              reduce the yearly payment even though it is


           15              extended, so there are --


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  And what will be the


           17              result if we default on that payment?


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Not good, and I guess,


           19              you know --


           20                      MS. GATELLI: I think it's


           21              interesting that it's almost the amount that


           22              we are allegedly due from the tax office,


           23              you know, that seems to have a familiar ring


           24              to it, the amount.  It's unfortunate that


           25              that audit isn't being done more






            1              expeditiously that we could maybe have that


            2              money by December 15 and pay it.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Or, you know, it would


            4              also I think be very encouraging to see the


            5              mayor try to make cuts to his budget.


            6              That's something he has really never done in


            7              the seven years that he has been seated in


            8              this office, so it's very difficult to say,


            9              well, I'll just approve this for you when


           10              you have no evidence of belt tightening on


           11              behalf of the administration and, you know,


           12              I for one, I know I have not -- I have not


           13              favored borrowing since I have been seated


           14              here and it's not because I wish to be


           15              contrary, it's because I have examined the


           16              budgets very closely, the bond series,


           17              etcetera, and I know, for example, if any


           18              one of us or any one of you were unable to


           19              meet your payments it would be very


           20              difficult for us to come not once, not


           21              twice, but actually, you know, three times


           22              here and borrow with the same collateral and


           23              borrow to pay your borrowing and that's


           24              exactly what he are doing and each year it


           25              continues ceaselessly, and I suppose for as






            1              long as I'm seated here I will always be


            2              waiting for a council that will stand up and


            3              stop all of the borrowing.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: And then what do we


            5              face?  What consequences do we face, you


            6              know?  I don't know what I'm ready to


            7              default on a loan payment.  I mean, I'm


            8              not -- I haven't been here as long as you


            9              have and I wasn't here for that 2005 that's


           10              coming due now, so, I mean, I can't take


           11              responsibility for that, but I don't want to


           12              take responsibility for defaulting on a loan


           13              that would have serious repercussions, so,


           14              you know, maybe we can find out what those


           15              repercussions would be also before the final


           16              vote on this.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: And I do disagree with


           18              one thing you said, Mrs. Evans, I do think


           19              you like being contrary at times.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Actually, no, I don't.


           21              I'm not contrary, I'm very pragmatic.  I'm


           22              very realistic and I think maybe as an


           23              English teacher I'm very accustom to looking


           24              at both sides of an issue, and that in


           25              reaching a decision, at least that's what I






            1              encourage in my classroom, do a full


            2              examination of both sides of an issue and


            3              then reach a conclusion.  But, no, I


            4              understand that you are kidding, at least I


            5              hope you are as an intellectual fellow.


            6                   But, you know, I guess I'll state for


            7              the record once again, I didn't vote for


            8              that, and I don't feel that anyone seated


            9              here is responsible for that.  The man who


           10              is responsible needs to do something about


           11              it, and I don't feel there is anymore that I


           12              at least can do than I have been trying to


           13              do for the last five years and I have


           14              offered him a way out on more than one


           15              occasion with budget creations, etcetera,


           16              and everything has been completely ignored.


           17                   And so until I see some evidence of his


           18              serious intention to tighten his belt in


           19              this economy and do the right thing I don't


           20              think he should be bailed out any further.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: On 5-C, all those in


           22              favor signify by saying aye.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?






            1                      MS. EVANS: No.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


            4              moved.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: We need a motion for a


            6              public here to be held.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Right.  I would like to


            8              make a motion to schedule a public hearing


            9              on Item 5-C for September 30th at 6:00 p.m.


           10                      MS. EVANS: Second.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           12              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           18              ayes have it and so moved.


           19                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           20              AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND
















            1              BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM, HOME INVESTMENT




            3              SHELTER GRANT (ESG) PROGRAM.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            5              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be


            6              introduced into it's proper committee.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           10              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           16              ayes have it and so moved.  At this time I


           17              would like to make a motion to schedule a


           18              public hearing for Item 5-D for


           19              September 23rd at 5:45.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           22              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            3              ayes have it and so moved.  Prior to 5-E


            4              could I just -- I know last week we tabled


            5              another project on traffic signals, and I


            6              did not follow-up on that during the week.


            7                      MS. EVANS: I did.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I did, too.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Is this something that


           10              we should again table until we get some idea


           11              as to how --


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: This is a different


           13              situation than the other one.


           14                      MS. EVANS: Similar, but different.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: If I may --


           16                      MS. GATELLI: They haven't had a


           17              study over there like we have had on Moosic


           18              Street.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the other one --


           20                      MS. GATELLI: The mini-mart


           21              situation.


           22                      MS. EVANS: Actually, they did a


           23              traffic study which was paid for by the


           24              owner of the project, and that was required


           25              by PennDOT to be done and paid for at his






            1              own expense and, in other words, he


            2              is complying with the requirements of


            3              PennDOT, it's been a two and a half year


            4              process and basically all they are going to


            5              do I think is change the timing of the light


            6              so that traffic doesn't back up on Moosic


            7              Street.


            8                      Now, the gentleman who owns Jay's


            9              Commons, I think, it's similar in that he is


           10              going through the same process, traffic


           11              study, having to pay for that, etcetera,


           12              satisfying the requirements of PennDOT, but


           13              I believe he is a required to have an


           14              additional signal; is that correct,


           15              Mr. Courtright?


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I believe so and it


           17              will probably be at his cost.


           18                      MS. EVANS: Oh, yes.


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  That leads to that


           20              one?


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I think what we are


           22              going to do is because, now, I'm talking


           23              about Jay's Common, there was nobody exiting


           24              out of that area, per se, other than there


           25              was a -- I don't want to call it an alley,






            1              there was a space between that building at


            2              what used to be the VFW building and the


            3              Fish Market and so now it will be actually


            4              traffic coming out, so that will be at his


            5              expense.  The one on Moosic Street not only


            6              did he paid for it, but now when they come


            7              up with the timing he is going to pay for


            8              them to do the timing, that will be at his


            9              -- he will have to pay for that, too, so


           10              that's the developer's costs.


           11                      I don't know if a study has been


           12              done on Main Avenue or not yet.  I'm


           13              assuming that he paid for it.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: It says as a result of


           15              the impact study.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I'm assuming that


           17              he paid for it, and I shouldn't assume, but


           18              in most cases it's always the developer.


           19                      MS. EVANS: And all of these steps


           20              have to be followed, I believe, before


           21              either of the developers would be granted a


           22              traffic impact permit by the state, and


           23              until that is received they really can't


           24              proceed any further with their projects.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay.  Thank you.  For






            1              the clarification.  Please, 5-E.


            2                      MS. GARVEY:  5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -


            3              A RESOLUTION - APPROVING REVISION OF THE




            5              OF MAIN AVENUE AND SWETLAND STREET AS A




            7              FOR THE JAY'S COMMONS PROJECT.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            9              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be


           10              introduced into it's proper committee.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           14              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           15                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           20              ayes have it and so moved.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           22              A RESOLUTION - REAPPOINTMENT OF NANCY D.


           23              BISIGNANI, 1200 PINE STREET, SCRANTON,


           24              PENNSYLVANIA, 18510, AS A MEMBER OF THE








            1              BISIGNANI'S TERM EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 11, 2007


            2              AND HER NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 11,


            3              2012.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            5              entertain motion that Item 5-F be introduced


            6              into it's proper committee.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           10              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           16              ayes have it and so moved.


           17                      MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION -




           19              315 THIRTEENTH AVENUE, SCRANTON,


           20              PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE




           22              MOORE'S TERM EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 11, 2007 AND


           23              HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 11,


           24              2012.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll






            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-G be


            2              introduced into it's proper committee.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           12              ayes have it and so moved.


           13                      MS. GARVEY:  5-H. FOR INTRODUCTION -




           15              934 NORTH WEBSITE AVENUE, SCRANTON,


           16              PENNSYLVANIA, 18510, AS A MEMBER OF THE




           18              RAYBURN'S TERM EXPIRED ON OCTOBER 11, 2006


           19              AND HER TERM WILL EXPIRE ON OCTOBER 11,


           20              2011.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-H be


           23              introduced it's proper committee.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            2              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            8              ayes have it and so moved.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A.


           10              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 26,


           11              2008 - CREATING AND ESTABLISHING SPECIAL


           12              CITY ACCOUNT NO. 02.229589 ENTITLED "DCNR








           16              AND NATURAL RESOURCES (DCNR) FOR SWIMMING


           17              POOL IMPROVEMENTS IN CITY OF SCRANTON.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading


           19              by title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A


           21              pass reading by title.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           24              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            5              ayes have it and so moved.


            6                      MS. GARVEY:  6-B. READING BY TITLE -


            7              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 37, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE




            9              OF SCRANTON CAPITAL BUDGET FOR THE YEAR 2009




           11              2008 FIVE-YEAR PLAN.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading


           13              by title of Item 6-B, what is pleasure?


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: I move that Item 6-B


           15              pass reading by title.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Second.  On the


           17              question?


           18                      MS. EVANS: Once again there is no


           19              supporting evidence as to the necessity for


           20              all improvements contained in the capital


           21              budget, there are no time schedules for


           22              projects, and no estimated annual costs of


           23              operating and maintaining facilities to be


           24              constructed.  This information applies to


           25              capital improvements still pending or in the






            1              process of construction or acquisition


            2              according to Section 904 of the Home Rule


            3              Charter.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those


            5              in favor signify by saying aye.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?


           10                      MS. EVANS: No.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


           12              moved.


           13                      MS. GARVEY: 6-C. READING BY TITLE -


           14              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 38, 2008 - AUTHORIZING








           18              AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED ON THE


           19              ATTACHED MAPS.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading


           21              by title of Item 6-C, what is your pleasure?


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-C


           23              pass reading by title.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All






            1              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            7              ayes have it and so moved.


            8                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A. FOR




           10              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 51, 2008 -


           11              ACCEPTING A ONE THOUSAND ($1,000.00) DOLLAR




           13              TO THE CITY OF SCRANTON FIRE DEPARTMENT.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           15              recommendation of the chairperson for the


           16              Committee on Finance?


           17                      MS. GATELLI: As chair for the


           18              Committee on Finance, I recommend final


           19              passage of 7-A.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


           22              call, please.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.






            1                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            8              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION




           11              FOR ADOPTION - A RESOLUTION NO. 52, 2008 -


           12              ACCEPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE




           14              ("HARB") AND APPROVING ISSUANCE OF THE




           16              INC., 825 SCRANTON CARBONDALE HIGHWAY,


           17              DICKSON CITY, PENNSYLVANIA, FOR THE






           20              LIGHTING, MOUNTED ON THE REAR FACADE OF THE


           21              RADISSON-LACKAWANNA STATION HOTEL, 700


           22              LACKAWANNA AVENUE, SCRANTON, PA.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           24              recommendation of the chairperson for the


           25              Committee on Community Development?






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  As chairperson for the


            2              Committee on Community Development, I


            3              recommend final passage of Item 7-B.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            6              call.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            8                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           10                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           17              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


           18                      MS. GARVEY:


           19                      7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE


           20              COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC WORKS - FOR ADOPTION -


           21              RESOLUTION NO. 53, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE






           24              AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF








            1              ("PENNDOT") TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATION IN ITS




            3              MORE EFFICIENT USE OF STATE AND LOCAL


            4              GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND EQUIPMENT.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            6              recommendation of the chairperson for the


            7              Committee on Public Works?


            8                      MS. EVANS: As chair for the


            9              Committee on Public Works, I recommend final


           10              passage of item 7-C.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           13              call.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           15                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           17                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           24              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


           25                      MS. GARVEY:  7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION








            2              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 54, 2008 -




            4              CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT ENTER INTO AND


            5              EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE U.S.






            8              (EDI) FUNDS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE UNITED


            9              NEIGHBORHOOD CENTERS OF NEPA.  THE GRANT


           10              FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR A PROJECT TO BE NAMED


           11              "HARRIET BEECHER STOWE".


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           13              recommendation of the chairperson for the


           14              Committee on Community Development?


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  As chairperson for the


           16              Committee on Community Development, I


           17              recommend final passage of Item 7-D.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           20              call, please.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           22                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           24                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            6              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


            7                      MS. GARVEY:  7-E. FOR CONSIDERATION




            9              FOR ADOPTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR ANT




           11              FOR AND EXECUTE A GRANT FOR HOUSING AND








           15              AND IF THE APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL TO


           16              COORDINATE THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS FOR


           17              THE PROJECT TO BE NAMED AS THE "CONNELL


           18              BUILDING" WITH "JEFFERSON-WERNER, LLC", THE


           19              DEVELOPER, OR ITS DESIGNEE.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           21              recommendation for the chairperson for the


           22              Committee on Community Development?


           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  As chairperson for the


           24              Committee on Community Development, I


           25              recommend final passage of Item 7-E.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            3              call, please?


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           14              Item 7-E legally and lawfully adopted.


           15                      MS. GARVEY:  7-F. FOR CONSIDERATION




           17              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 56, 2008 -




           19              CITY OFFICIALS TO APPLY FOR AND EXECUTE A






           22              OF ONE MILLION $1,000,000.00 DOLLARS THROUGH




           24              (PHFA); ACCEPTING AND DISBURSING THE GRANT


           25              IF THE APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL; AND TO








            2              "JEFFERSON-WERNER, LLC", THE DEVELOPER, OR


            3              ITS DESIGNEE FOR THE PROJECT NAMED AS "THE


            4              CONNELL BUILDING."


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            6              recommendation of the chairperson for the


            7              Committee on Community Development?


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  As chair for the


            9              Committee on Community Development, I


           10              recommend final passage of Item 7-F.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           13              call.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           15                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           17                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           24              Item 7-F legally and lawfully adopted.


           25                      MS. GARVEY: 7-G. FOR CONSIDERATION






            1              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


            2              RESOLUTION NO. 57, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE




            4              CITY OF SCRANTON TO ENTER INTO A




            6              FIRM OF HOURIGAN, KLUGER & QUINN, P.C. FOR


            7              LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT LEGAL SERVICES.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: As chairperson for the


            9              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           10              passage of Item 7-G.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           13              call, please?


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           15                      MS. EVANS:  No.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           17                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           24              Item 7-G legally and lawfully adopted.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: Motion to adjourn.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you for your time


            3              and participation.


















































            1                     C E R T I F I C A T E




            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            8   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

           12                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER