1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday,September 9, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                     Council Chambers


           11                    Scranton City Hall


           12                340 North Washington Avenue


           13                   Scranton, Pennsylvania





















                         CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - COURT REPORTER






















                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1             (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of


            2               reflection observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Prior to the beginning


            4              of the meeting we have a proclamation for


            5              members of Junior Council.  The Proclamation


            6              reads:


            7                      WHEREAS, the COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF


            8              SCRANTON is desirous of honoring DOUGLAS


            9              MILLER and IAN MILLER for their service to


           10              the City of Scranton through their


           11              dedication and hard work as Junior City


           12              Council members; and


           13                      WHEREAS, DOUG wanting to become mor


           14              involved in City Government proposed the


           15              idea of a Junior Council in order to give


           16              students the opportunity to learn more about


           17              City Government; and


           18                      WHEREAS, DOUG and IAN have been


           19              members of Junior Council since it's


           20              inception in February 2006; and


           21                      WHEREAS, DOUG and IAN along with


           22              members of Junior Council have successfully


           23              raised funds to purchase and install a


           24              Children's Handicap Accessible Swing Set at


           25              Nay Aug Park, in addition raised funds to






            1              benefit a Police and Firefighters Memorial,


            2              organized numerous Park Beautification


            3              Projects throughout the City, planned a


            4              Heroes' Night Charity Basketball game


            5              between Scranton Police and Firemen,


            6              spearheaded the efforts to place a memorial


            7              plaque in honor of Captain James Robeson,


            8              Scranton Firefighter who lost his life in


            9              the line of duty, at West Scranton High


           10              School as well as forming a scholarship in


           11              his name; and


           12                      WHEREAS, DOUG and IAN will continue


           13              their education at Lackawanna College.


           14                      N0W, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by


           15              the Members of Scranton City Council that on


           16              Tuesday, September 9, 2008, they commend


           17              DOUG and IAN for their dedication to the


           18              City of Scranton, and extend their best


           19              wishes for success in future endeavors.


           20                      BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that this


           21              Proclamation be made a permanent part of the


           22              Minutes of this Council, as lasting tribute


           23              to IAN MILER and DOUGLAS MILLER.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Could we have roll call,


           25              please.






            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            2                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            4                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with


           11              the reading of the minutes and prior to


           12              Third Order, Douglas had asked if he could


           13              say a few words and please do.


           14                      MR. MILLER: Thank you.  I would like


           15              to thank Scranton City Council for


           16              presenting Ian Miller and I with these


           17              rewarding Proclamations.  I am very grateful


           18              and humbled to accept it.  I couldn't


           19              possibly have received this award had it not


           20              been for Mrs. Gatelli and the rest of City


           21              Council that made Junior Council a reality.


           22              Serving as the president of Junior Council


           23              for two years helped me become more mature,


           24              a better leader and most of all the ability


           25              to handle criticism.






            1                      My experience has also opened the


            2              doors to many other opportunities.


            3              Currently I serve as a legislative assistant


            4              to the Honorable Representative Frank Andrew


            5              Shimkus.  Representative Shimkus is


            6              committed to working hard for us down in


            7              Harrisburg.


            8                      Hopefully, we have not seen the end


            9              of such a wonderful educational asset.  I


           10              encourage students all across the city to


           11              continue to participate in our city


           12              government and I ask city council not to let


           13              this junior council program come to and end.


           14              Thank you once again for this honor and have


           15              a great night.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you very much,


           17              Doug.  I know on behalf of council, we would


           18              like to thank Doug and Ian for their


           19              service.  The time and effort that they put


           20              in in promotion of the projects in which


           21              they were engaged was monumental for high


           22              school students, and I agree with you, Doug,


           23              that an idea or concept like junior council


           24              is something that we should encourage for


           25              the health and benefit of our city






            1              politically in the future.  So, thank you


            2              for your service and Ian's service and


            3              hopefully we can continue something that you


            4              have so admirably initiated.  Anyone else?


            5              THIRD ORDER.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 3-A. AUDIT OF THE




            8              YEAR ENDING DECEMBER 2007.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           10              If not, received and filed.


           11                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. PETITION FOR A


           12              FOUR-WAY STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF


           13              PROSPECT AVENUE AND ALDER STREET.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           15              If not, received and filed.


           16                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. CONTROLLER'S REPORT


           17              FOR THE MONTH ENDING JULY 31, 2008.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           19              If not, received and filed.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 3-D.  AGENDA FOR THE




           22              AUGUST 27, 2008.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           24              If not, received and filed?


           25                      MS. GARVEY: 3-E.  MINUTES OF THE








            2              HELD ON JULY 23, 2008.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            4              If not, received and filed.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: 3-F.  MINUTES OF THE




            7              23, 2008.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            9              If not received and filed.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: 3-G.  MINUTES OF THE




           12              JUNE 28, 2008.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           14              If not, received and filed.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: 3-H.  MINUTES OF THE




           17              JULY 23, 2008.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           19              If not, received and filed.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 3-I.  CITY OF SCRANTON




           22              DECEMBER 31, 2006.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           24              It not, received and filed.


           25                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third






            1              Order.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Prior to citizens'


            3              participation are there any announcements.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.  The first thing


            5              I would like to announce is this Saturday at


            6              the downtown area will the Race for the


            7              Cure.  They will have registration for


            8              people that aren't already registered from


            9              6:30 in the morning until 8:00 on courthouse


           10              square.


           11                      Also, on Wednesday, tomorrow morning


           12              September 10, they are going to have a press


           13              conference and a live radio remote


           14              officially introducing the Pennsylvania


           15              Clean Indoor Air Act.  I'm especially proud


           16              of this act as I think that it is council


           17              and the students at West Scranton High


           18              School that really pushed the Governor and


           19              the state legislators to seriously look into


           20              the smoking ban, so, anyone that's


           21              interested in that it's tomorrow at 11:30


           22              and it will on WBHT 97.1 FM from noon to


           23              1:00, and that's from the original Cancer


           24              Institute, Bob Durkin is the director.


           25              Also, on Sunday, September 14, there will be






            1              a ride for Jan Argonish, one of our soldiers


            2              that was killed in Afghanistan.  He served


            3              in the National Guard for ten years.  The


            4              registration is 8 to 11, the ride starts at


            5              noon at the Milestone Ranch in Waverly, PA.


            6              It's $20 for each rider, and $10 for each


            7              passenger.  For more information you can


            8              e-mail www.SGTJANARGONISH.webs.com.  Anybody


            9              who wants any of this information it will up


           10              here after the meeting, and I think that's


           11              all I have.  Thank you.


           12                      MS. EVANS: Bids were received on


           13              August 12 for the paving of city streets to


           14              include handicapped curb cuts.  It appears


           15              that the selection were made by OECD and


           16              Mr. Brazil, DPW director.  The streets


           17              listed in the bids for paving are as


           18              follows:  The 400 block of North 7th Street.


           19              Lackawanna Bridge.  The 100 block of North


           20              Bromley.  The 200 and 300 blocks of South


           21              Sumner.  The 100 of South Edward between


           22              Jackson and Scranton.  The 1000 block of


           23              Scranton.  The 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 600 blocks


           24              of Meridian.  Oxford Street between 10th and


           25              Meridian.  600 South Ninth Avenue.  The 400






            1              block of 15th Street.  The intersection of


            2              Fellow and 16th Street.  The 13, 14, 15, and


            3              1600 blocks of Division Street.  The 200 and


            4              300 blocks of South Garfield and the 800


            5              block of Smith Street.


            6                      A cancer benefit for Beverly Kosch,


            7              a young mother who is battling lung cancer,


            8              will be conducted on Saturday, September 20,


            9              at East Street Pub and Eatery, 223 West


           10              Market Street in North Scranton from 7 to


           11              10 p.m.  Tickets are $15 and are available


           12              at the door.  If you're unable to attend,


           13              but are still interested in making a


           14              donation, a benefit fund for Beverly Kosch


           15              has been opened at Penn Security Bank, 1901


           16              Sanderson Avenue, Scranton.


           17                      The Upper Hill Ecumenical Committee


           18              compromised of Myrtle Street Methodist


           19              Church, Immaculate Conception Church and St.


           20              Peter's Evangelical Luther Church will be


           21              conducting events during the remainder of


           22              2008 to benefit St. Francis of Assisi


           23              kitchen.


           24                      Monthly, friendly family fun nights


           25              will be held at the Dunmore Friendly's






            1              restaurant during the hours of 5 to 8 p.m.


            2              on the following dates:  September 24,


            3              October 15, and November 19.  The number of


            4              poor and homeless in our city is spiraling


            5              upward amid an economic environment of


            6              increasing unemployment, and rising costs of


            7              utilities, food and gasoline.  This crises


            8              is evident at local food pantries, United


            9              Neighborhood Centers, Friends of the Poor,


           10              local homeless shelters and St. Francis


           11              kitchen.  You can make a difference in the


           12              lives of others by dining out each month one


           13              time and encouraging others to do so as


           14              well.


           15                      Also, a liturgy of remembrance on


           16              the seventh anniversary of the terrorist


           17              attacks on America will be held Thursday at


           18              7:00 p.m. at St. Ann's Basilica.  Civil


           19              ceremonies will be lead by area


           20              firefighters.


           21                      Also, the Scranton/Lackawanna


           22              Taxpayers' Association conducted nine free


           23              swimming events at Nay Aug pool complex in


           24              the last two years.  All swim events were


           25              paid by donations received from local






            1              business owners and private citizens.  In


            2              2007, five free swim days were enjoyed by


            3              1,114 children at a cost of $3,058.00.  In


            4              2008, 1,146 children enjoyed four free swim


            5              days at a cost of $2,570.00.  In these


            6              two years 2260 children swam free thanks to


            7              total donations of $5,628.00 and the hard


            8              work, generosity and community spirit of


            9              Mr. Bill Jackowitz and Mr. Andy Sbaraglia.


           10              This program will continue as long as the


           11              city administration continues to charge a


           12              fee for the use of the Nay Aug Park swim


           13              complex and I have been asked to announce


           14              the 2008 contributors:  Sam's Barber Shop,


           15              Haas Funeral Home, Machisik Insurance, Staar


           16              Uniforms, Sebrosky Auto, AC Tavern, John's


           17              signs, Buono Pizza, William and Debbie


           18              Moran, Elaine DeLorenzo, Joseph and Mary


           19              Schultz, Ann Gordon, Stanley Narsavage,


           20              Edward Chomko Funeral Home, Nicholas Chomko


           21              Funeral Home, Andrew Brown's Drugstore.


           22              John Lukasik, Miller Bean Funeral Home, John


           23              Kunda, TS Corner Store, Costa Drugstore, Lee


           24              Morgan, Coney Island Hotdogs, Pat Tobin, Joe


           25              Skortowski, Citizen's Saving's Bank, Little






            1              League from West Scranton, Penn Security


            2              Bank, Bill Stanavich, DiBileo Insurance,


            3              Scranton Fire Department, the Union News,


            4              Marie Schumacher, Guston Amusements, Dave


            5              Dobson, Pennstar Bank.


            6                      Contributions will continue to be


            7              accepted.  Make checks payable to


            8              "Kids Swim Free" and mail to 1416 South


            9              Webster Avenue, Scranton, PA, 18505.  Thank


           10              you.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Fourth


           12              Order.  Citizens' participation.  Nancy


           13              Krake.


           14                      MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.


           15              In today's Times-Tribune there was an


           16              article about our Scranton firefighters and


           17              I would like to address some of the remarks


           18              that Stu Renda, our business administrator,


           19              made.  The first one, "The city business


           20              administrator Stu Renda said the unions have


           21              never acknowledged Scranton's fiscal


           22              distress."


           23                      We were acknowledging the distress


           24              and we were pulling the city out of it when


           25              he was still in grade school and high






            1              school.  His secondary remark, "If they


            2              really wanted to negotiate and wanted to get


            3              some money they'd come to us and say, 'We


            4              want to be part of the restructuring.'"


            5                      Well, we certainly did not want to


            6              be part of this economic house of cards of


            7              Mayor Doherty's.  We were part when the last


            8              administration worked hand-in-hand with the


            9              unions and all government officials to bring


           10              the city back.  In fact, taking a look at


           11              the last administration the first seven


           12              years the budgets only grew $4.8 million and


           13              I think we all know the horrific amount


           14              Mayor Doherty has grown with his budgets,


           15              that would be $30 million.  Under Mayor


           16              Connors, there was no long-term borrowing,


           17              the raises were received by everyone, cost


           18              of living raises.  Health care costs were


           19              brought under control and, in fact, an


           20              additional $5 million was put back into the


           21              city coffers because of the work we did on


           22              health care.


           23                      There is a profound lack of


           24              accountability.  There has never existed a


           25              council super majority to override Mayor






            1              Doherty's gross acts of misconduct towards


            2              the city's budget and the taxpayers.  That


            3              being said, I would like to remind everyone


            4              what happens when Mayor Doherty fixes a


            5              union.  With our union 30 jobs were


            6              eliminated.  Did any of that money go back


            7              to the taxpayers?  Did any of that money go


            8              back into the budget?  No.  He has been


            9              using approximately, it would have been


           10              approximately $750,000 savings, rounded off.


           11              He is spending $800,000 for the next


           12              20 years, that's $16 million in double


           13              pension costs to the people he retired.


           14              This makes absolutely no sense at all and on


           15              top of that he is also taken that money and


           16              put it towards higher raises and additional


           17              jobs for middle management.  This is what


           18              Mayor Doherty does when he cuts jobs in a


           19              bargaining unit.  He should not be allowed


           20              to cut jobs in the firefighters or police or


           21              DPW the.


           22                      I would also request having looked


           23              over the paperwork Mrs. Evans gave me that


           24              NCC sent an audit of NCC.  This is an


           25              abomination of how they answer the questions






            1              this council presented to them and all of


            2              that information, all tests for houses is


            3              public information, so I would respectfully


            4              request council to do a very in-depth audit


            5              of NCC, who paid, how much they paid and


            6              when they paid.  Thank you.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.


            8              Bill Jackowitz.


            9                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South


           10              Scranton, good evening, President McGoff,


           11              city council members.  Starting off with


           12              good news, hotel occupancy in the area has


           13              risen the past few months.  Since January of


           14              2007 jobs have increased in Scranton by


           15              98 percent.  Wages, that is a totally


           16              different story.  I would like to welcome


           17              back Scranton City Council from their summer


           18              vacation, a very long vacation.  Six weeks


           19              for Councilwomen Fanucci and Gatelli,


           20              five-weeks for President McGoff and


           21              Councilman Courtright and Councilwoman


           22              Evans.  Since January of 2006 you totalled


           23              19 council meetings have been cancelled, 14


           24              vacation days, a total of 33 meetings.  This


           25              does not include meetings that individual






            1              council members have not attended, but yet


            2              it is my understanding that the council


            3              members have received full pay during this


            4              period of time, public money, taxpayers.


            5                      If the mayor is serious about the


            6              recovery of the city, he can start by not


            7              paying council members for no shows,


            8              vacation days and cancelled meetings.


            9              Better yet, I agree with Council President


           10              McGoff when he stated back in 2006 that he


           11              was not aware that council members were


           12              paid.  Maybe he has something there.


           13                   According to government data, the


           14              average salary for jobs in Scranton,


           15              Pennsylvania, is $28,706 and the median


           16              income of households in Scranton was


           17              $28,282.00.  Among the most common


           18              occupations in Scranton are sales, office


           19              and service occupations.  The median wage


           20              for all workers in Scranton is $19,804, not


           21              household.  City council $12,500 part-time.


           22              Male full-time workers, $32,159.  Female


           23              full-time workers, $25,253.  These are


           24              full-time salaries.  As you can see, not


           25              very good.  Please, do not raise taxes or






            1              borrow more money.  I have provided council


            2              members with copies of my research and you


            3              can also research other sites and get the


            4              exact same information.


            5                      "Scranton lands on dying list."


            6              When front page news is a new Dunkin Donuts


            7              being built at a gateway to the city,


            8              Mulberry Street, when a new state of the art


            9              office building Southern Union is built for


           10              the cost of $16 million and 3 years later is


           11              sold for $5.5 million, as of today that


           12              building is still vacant.  Without the


           13              anchor store and Boscov's has declared


           14              bankruptcy, Steve and Barry's and another


           15              anchor has also declared bankruptcy.


           16                      A research firm, Median


           17              Incorporated, vacancies at U.S. shopping


           18              centers are at a 13-year high, 8.2 percent.


           19              Mr. Walsh general manger at the Steamtown


           20              Mall states:  That vacancies at the


           21              Steamtown Mall are 16 percent, about double


           22              the national average.  The theatre is losing


           23              money everyday.  Over 50 empty store fronts


           24              downtown, a bed and breakfast open on


           25              Jefferson Avenue, another gateway to the






            1              city.  A new Dunkin Donuts on Davis Street


            2              and Mulberry Street, two more gateways to


            3              Scranton, but yet Mr. Burke and Mayor


            4              Doherty still promote the city is doing


            5              well.  Unemployment is written as


            6              6.3 percent non-seasonal adjusted,


            7              5.9 percent seasonal adjusted in the area,


            8              the second highest in the state.  The gross


            9              domestic product is only going 1.3 percent


           10              in Scranton.


           11                      National GEP average growth


           12              3.3 percent.  Furthermore, 20.3 percent of


           13              Scranton residents live in poverty, this


           14              rose from 17.3 in 2006, 2008 is predicted to


           15              be higher.  Nationally, 12.5 live in


           16              poverty, Lackawanna County 12.8.  Why is


           17              Scranton so high since we are doing so well?


           18              We have Nay Aug Park, we also have the


           19              highest wage tax in the area, 5,222 of the


           20              1,600 children in Scranton under the age of


           21              18 live in poverty, 62 percent of the


           22              students in the Scranton School receive


           23              assistance.  Why?  Where is Mr. Austin Burke


           24              and Mayor Doherty to address these areas of


           25              concern?  If I were to address council and






            1              the citizens publically not through the


            2              newspaper.  Scranton and none of the dying


            3              cities have suffered the year's decline real


            4              estate prices.  Why?  Because prices never


            5              went up in the first place.  The nest egg


            6              index ranked 455 out of 500 cities on their


            7              savings and investment habits lists,


            8              February of 2008, 45th from the bottom.  You


            9              cannot say that your income is low and


           10              unemployment is high, but we have Nay Aug


           11              Park and 300 ornamental trees in South


           12              Scranton, a $300,000 dog park, a treehouse


           13              and bridge to nowhere, kids must pay $3 a


           14              day to swim at Nay Aug, 21 heroine dealers


           15              in South Scranton, how many more drug


           16              dealers in the city?  Yes, this is all


           17              negative, but truthful.  The biggest economy


           18              coming into our region is out of state


           19              garbage, drug sales, both prescription and


           20              nonprescription and donuts.


           21                      Please, council, put the citizens


           22              first.  No tax increase or borrowing.  The


           23              mayor put the community in this mess, let


           24              him get us out, not the taxpayers.  We


           25              cannot afford it.  Scranton gateway, it's






            1              Mulberry Street and Dunkin Donuts, Davis


            2              Street, Dunkin Donuts, Moosic Street, Dunkin


            3              Donuts and Krispe Kreme donuts.  Come to


            4              Scranton for a donut, and do not raises


            5              taxes or borrow no more money.  Do the


            6              research, please.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Bob Bolus.


            8                      MR. BOLUS:  Good evening, Council,


            9              Bob Bolus, Scranton.  What brought me here


           10              tonight was the fact that council honored


           11              Doug and Ian.  I think it was remarkable


           12              what two kids did and how much they learned.


           13              They learned to grow up, they learned to


           14              accept criticism, they found out what the


           15              real political life could be in the City of


           16              Scranton.  The comments, the negative


           17              attitude of some people and the positive


           18              attitudes of some others.  This was a


           19              learning experience, maybe it wasn't for


           20              some, but for most it was.  It was a time to


           21              see children grow into young adults and I


           22              applaud council for participating in that.


           23                   I only wish council spent more time


           24              with them as it was originally aggrieved


           25              with the council if you do it again to have






            1              them participate with each council member in


            2              their particular departments and help them


            3              grow and learn more.  I believe at one point


            4              the kids were shortchanged in what they


            5              could have learned, but I applaud you and


            6              thank you and hopefully more people, more


            7              parents will bring their children here and


            8              let them learn how to grow up.


            9                      It's kind of funny, Scranton is now


           10              in the limelight.  We are actually in the


           11              national limelight, everybody is taking a


           12              look at us, and when you look at some of the


           13              things, and I'm just going to do it briefly


           14              on the agenda, on 5-I and J because


           15              basically they are both the same, but this


           16              mayor gave Pete Sabia a heck of a tax break


           17              on the Connell Building and now we want to


           18              throw millions of dollars again in there


           19              into a tax free building.  If they want the


           20              money let the KOZ's, nonprofits pay a fee,


           21              take the burden off the people in this city


           22              that is supporting the university and


           23              everywhere else, they want their tuition


           24              they just jack it up, they pay whatever they


           25              want but the people in the city can't do






            1              that and it's the duty of this council, I


            2              was going to look it up and go through it,


            3              but, you know, I'm busy with my own


            4              schedule, I think it's really council's


            5              responsibility to become creative and come


            6              up with a fee that's passed over everyone


            7              that's fair and equitable to give us the


            8              relief we need from those bullies that are


            9              beating up the little people, and it's time


           10              you have to take that responsibility.


           11                      I listened to some of the comments


           12              that went on here and I thought it was kind


           13              of funny the mayor wants to build a library,


           14              why didn't you buy Southern Union for a


           15              quarter of the price, it would have


           16              accomplished the same thing, but he ignored


           17              it, but yet it's another tax burden on the


           18              people, it's gone, it doesn't pay anything.


           19                   You could put windmills, I proposed


           20              that around the whole valley and supply us


           21              with electricity.  We can cut spending on


           22              Nay Aug and other pet Doherty projects and


           23              be realistic.  Remember, America is watching


           24              us now.  Their storage alternatives and how


           25              you dispose of storage, take a look at it






            1              and there is tremendous cost to do it.


            2                   ECTV, I mean, what I see here today and


            3              what we had in the past I think it's just


            4              Doherty's politics in motion as he has taken


            5              everything else apart, just look around what


            6              it does today, it's ridiculous.  You don't


            7              even see programs, there is nothing out


            8              there.  They don't have the money, yet a


            9              good combination of people were thrown out


           10              of these chambers because of Doherty


           11              politics, just keep giving them more money


           12              and lead them feed his ego, but I thought


           13              history was made this week.  I read the


           14              comments of our three councilwomen, you


           15              know, Judy, historically I believe you were


           16              the first council president, history was


           17              made with three women in Scranton City


           18              Council, put five men on who gave a darn, no


           19              one.  Governor Palin is history in the


           20              making and she should be supported because


           21              after all anybody that would have five kids,


           22              anybody that would have five children we


           23              know what our mother's taught us, our values


           24              came from our mothers as we grew up, our


           25              fathers were all busy working, and this






            1              isn't a political speech.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Excuse me, I'm going


            3              to override the president on this and as the


            4              vice-president I would ask you to please


            5              refrain from endorsing or speaking of any


            6              political candidates --


            7                      MR. BOLUS: Oh, I'm not endorsing.


            8                      MS. GATELLI: -- in the election.


            9              Thank you, and I hope my colleagues would


           10              agree with me on this.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I agree.


           12                      MR. BOLUS: Mrs. Gatelli, I am not


           13              endorsing, this is a public statement made--


           14                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, but you're


           15              promoting a certain candidate.


           16                      MS. BOLUS:  I'm not promoting, I'm


           17              giving credit where credit is due, and I'm


           18              giving credit to three women sitting at this


           19              council.


           20                      MS. GATELLI: Well, we are not


           21              running for president.


           22                      MR. B0LUS: Well, you're not running


           23              but maybe you should at some point, but most


           24              of the values we learned from our mothers


           25              and from women that educated us as we grew






            1              up and I think you all to have take a hard


            2              look because this city is in the natural


            3              limelight and your comments reflect each and


            4              every one of us and it's not necessarily our


            5              views either.  Thank you.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Bolus.


            7              Ozzie Quinn.


            8                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'


            9              Association.  First of all, I want to wish


           10              the firefighters and the police good luck


           11              tomorrow.  I know that, I'm hoping it's


           12              approved and it's going to be a heck of a


           13              tax on the citizens, but the fact is if it


           14              was -- if you only gave the raises back when


           15              he was supposed to give the raises


           16              incrementally we wouldn't be at this one big


           17              sum tax coming upon us and if it is approved


           18              in favor of the firefighters and police,


           19              it's been going on eight years.


           20                      Also, Bill mentioned about the fact


           21              that about the potholes, the streets in the


           22              city are terrible and this is without rancor


           23              or ill-will, there has got to be something


           24              done.


           25                      In addition, the new medical school






            1              out there on Olive Street -- Pine Street,


            2              you have taken away that recreation center


            3              for all those kids out there that played


            4              there.  Anybody that was on Pine Street, any


            5              time at 5:00 that place is packed.  In


            6              addition, you took away the fact that


            7              those -- that was the only play area for


            8              those kids in the area as Mr. Davis had


            9              pointed out before and the fact is that


           10              their little league is up in Wood Street, up


           11              in top of Bullshead and if they want to swim


           12              they have to go out in Weston Field or


           13              Capouse Avenue.  These kids aren't second


           14              class citizens, I don't know what you are


           15              thinking about, I really don't know.  It's


           16              bad, it's poor planning and it's ashame,


           17              shame on for hurting these poor kids.  And


           18              you know what, South Side Complex that was


           19              supposed to be replaced with a field, when


           20              was it, two years ago?  It never happened.


           21              I mean, what are we doing here?  We are just


           22              taking away and we are building these silly


           23              things as Mr. Jackowitz has pointed out and


           24              everybody just giggles.


           25                      Also, we need a comprehensive






            1              rehabilitation program in the City of


            2              Scranton.  With the winter coming up and low


            3              income and the elderly and 20.3 percent


            4              poverty, people are going to be hurting and


            5              they are going to be hurting real bad and if


            6              you let those people from OECD run this


            7              program and just put it down their throats


            8              you are not going to have a good program


            9              because I don't think they know what they


           10              are doing down there with all due respect.


           11                   Now, I do want to point out the fact


           12              that three of you are perpetuating a


           13              violation of the Home Rule Charter, okay,


           14              the administrative law.  When you have voted


           15              for ECTV, that $90,000, because of the fact


           16              that the owner of 933 Prescott Avenue one of


           17              his employees is a president of ECTV he used


           18              to, I don't know if he still works with the


           19              owner of 933 Prescott Avenue and he was the


           20              owner at the time that the mayor picked that


           21              and also he is a board member of the East


           22              Scranton Business Association which $10,000


           23              was laundered through to fix that building.


           24                   Now, why isn't that being reviewed by


           25              the Ethics' Commission when this complaint






            1              was filed back in February of this year,


            2              seven months ago?  And I found out that the


            3              member of the Ethic's --one of the members


            4              of the Ethic's Commission, I don't know how


            5              many members there are, is also selling


            6              property for the owner of who owns the


            7              property at 933 Prescott Avenue.  No wonder.


            8              You know, it's no wonder, they're talked


            9              about.  I hate to say it really, but if the


           10              man would only stand up and say I'm doing


           11              this, you, know, I'd appreciate that, but


           12              this here and trying to get away with it and


           13              you people not looking into this matter.


           14              It's a sin and the fact that it's happening


           15              you are breaking the law and he is breaking


           16              the law.  He is conflict of interest.  You


           17              don't have to be a Philadelphia lawyer to


           18              know that.


           19                      But the main thing here is the fact


           20              that we got to do something for the


           21              recreation out there for those kids out in


           22              the Central Tech area, they have been


           23              suffering for too long, makeshift fields, no


           24              swimming, going all the way up to Wood


           25              Street for a little league, it's ashame and






            1              they can't go to Nay Aug, obviously, because


            2              they have to pay $3.00.  So, what is it, do


            3              we have a planning department?  Do we have


            4              OECD?  I mean, I'm sure that's a low income


            5              area.  It is a low income area, don't you


            6              think it is?  I don't see what the problem


            7              is.  What is the problem without help -- for


            8              not helping those poor kids.  Thank you.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.


           10              Andy Sbaraglia.


           11                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,


           12              citizen of Scranton, fellow Scrantonians,


           13              under 5-I and J, it has to deal with


           14              accountability.  It's a lot of money that --


           15              they're grants, if they were loans I would


           16              say fine.  Loan them anything you want, but


           17              these are grants.  They are gifts.  Do you


           18              know how many people in this city have


           19              trouble making their bills?  How could you


           20              even entertain something like this?  You


           21              build them a parking garage that's going to


           22              bankrupt the Parking Authority, there is no


           23              question about that, if you look at any of


           24              their financial statements coming through


           25              they have been bankrupt and they have been






            1              staying out of bankruptcy by transferring


            2              the garages here and there and everywhere


            3              and then putting money into a sinking fund,


            4              borrowing more than they need and put it


            5              into a sinking fund.


            6                      Not only that, this is a -- I


            7              believe it's a -- in other words, you can't


            8              even -- we are going to spend millions of


            9              dollars fixing his building up, but we can't


           10              raise his taxes.  Does that make sense?


           11              Dollars and cents are what's wrong with this


           12              city.  People fail to look at it.  I don't


           13              know how you can bury your heads in the sand


           14              when you see all of the news coming out and


           15              it's not good news, it's bad news.  A whole


           16              country, the whole economy of the country is


           17              in problems.  The federal government just


           18              took over Fannie Mae and Sallie Mae, which


           19              tells you that we are on the verge of


           20              collapse.  The city has been on the verge of


           21              collapse because nobody wants to get it from


           22              collapsing, but still you close your eyes to


           23              what's going on and I find it hard to


           24              believe.  I don't know what this man is


           25              going to get the to fix up an old building,






            1              but certainly something has to be given to


            2              somebody, there is no question about that.


            3              I mean, what's happening in the city is


            4              ridiculous.  Lackawanna Avenue 28, 29


            5              million climbing out of public money, all


            6              public money, and then you wonder why the


            7              government is in trouble, the city is in


            8              trouble, the state is in trouble.  You


            9              cannot give away the house and expect to


           10              have any kind of financial responsibility,


           11              you just can't do it and you are failing to


           12              do it and the place to start actually is in


           13              the cities, the smaller places probably do a


           14              better job for the city.  Maybe it's time to


           15              change the charter and go back to being a


           16              two-way city, maybe that's the solution.


           17              Maybe another solution is just break up the


           18              city like they are trying to do now down


           19              there in Harvey's Lake, that's an option,


           20              too.  Taxpayers inside of the city is going


           21              to get sick and tired of these people and


           22              they are going to vote to leave Scranton and


           23              let you sink under your own weight because


           24              that's what's happening and that's what's


           25              going to happen.  We are up to max and you






            1              show no financial responsibility for the


            2              last almost eight years.  You borrow,


            3              borrow, borrow and there is no need for it.


            4              You should have done it one step at a time,


            5              like you teach a baby, one step at a time.


            6              Maybe in the end you would have a lot more,


            7              but what you did you piled it up all up in


            8              the beginning and now we are saddled with


            9              all of this debt and all of these garages


           10              that are going to collapse and what's going


           11              to happen to the citizens?  They are going


           12              to be responsible.  It's just too bad we


           13              can't get to a constitutional dimension down


           14              there and change our constitution and make


           15              elected officials responsible for the action


           16              monetarily.  Ninety percent would not run


           17              anymore, but we'll have 10 percent that's


           18              not afraid.  Thank you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           20              Mr. Sbaraglia.  Harold Cameron.


           21                      MR. CAMERON: Good evening,


           22              distinguished members of our city council


           23              and good evening, my fellow citizens.  Jesus


           24              said that if we asked and receive, if we


           25              seek we'll find, if we knock it shall be






            1              opened onto us, and he also said whatsoever


            2              you ask in faith believing you receive, but


            3              I'm not here tonight to talk about religion,


            4              I'm here to talk become the point that Jesus


            5              is making that we need to ask, we need to


            6              ask our city officials, our elected


            7              officials for help.


            8                      But there is another thing that he


            9              is trying to tell us.  There is a proper way


           10              to ask.  We can scream and holler and pound


           11              on podiums and call names or we can approach


           12              our elected officials and dedicated civil


           13              servants with the respect and dignity that


           14              we ourselves would like and what I found as


           15              a consumer advocate as a community activist


           16              working in our community that positive


           17              begats positive.  That what you put out is


           18              called the law of attraction and in the book


           19              "The Secret," what you put out you get back.


           20              Does anyone agree with me?  In other words,


           21              if we are negative, negative, negative, why


           22              are we surprised when we get a negative


           23              response?


           24                      I'd like to give you an example.  As


           25              an advocate I advocate for citizens who need






            1              housing and I contacted Mayor Doherty, I


            2              sent a letter to you folks here at city


            3              council as well as to Mr. Gary Pelicacci of


            4              Scranton Housing.  The response was prompt,


            5              the response was appropriate, it was


            6              courteous, it was polite, it was


            7              professional, and the citizens that needed


            8              help within the guidelines of Scranton


            9              Housing was allowed to apply, the citizens


           10              received the help that they need, such as a


           11              homeless woman with an infant child.


           12                      Again, no favors were pulled, no


           13              strings were pulled, guidelines were


           14              followed, but I believe because these folks


           15              and you good folks were approached properly


           16              a proper response was received and I commend


           17              Mayor Doherty, I commend you, and thank


           18              members of City Scranton council and I


           19              commend Mr. Peliccacci and his excellent


           20              dedicated staff for their prompt and timely


           21              and appropriate response to citizens in


           22              need.


           23                      Another concern.  Over off of Olive


           24              and Penn Avenues near the railroad tracks


           25              there is a whole group of people that live






            1              there that we don't know about unless we


            2              happen to go over there and they are called


            3              homeless people.  Now, I have advocated for


            4              a lot of people, but I had never been there


            5              and I stood there in the woods in the rain


            6              and I said, "People live here."


            7                      And I saw the garbage and the


            8              garbage bags and I saw the piles and mounds


            9              of stuff and this young group of dedicated


           10              people from Olive Branch Ministry and


           11              Steamtown Church got together and they


           12              started cleaning the area up and started


           13              talking to these folks and working with


           14              these folks and I contacted Mayor Doherty


           15              and city council and DPW, Mr. Jeff Brazil,


           16              and I said, "You know we have got some


           17              garbage over here that needs to be picked up


           18              and we want to help the homeless and we want


           19              to do something to clean up that area


           20              because I'll tell you what, rats and rodents


           21              and mosquitoes are drawn that that garbage."


           22                      And guess what happened?  Because of


           23              a polite and courteous approach and dignity


           24              was applied the garbage all of a sudden was


           25              mysteriously picked up by the elves of the






            1              DPW and I'm grateful and I commend


            2              Mr. Brazil and I commend his staff for doing


            3              a job and doing it well.


            4                      And while we were there helping the


            5              homeless Scranton's finest approaches us two


            6              officers from Scranton, wanting to know who


            7              we were and what we were doing, very


            8              professional, very honorable.  They were


            9              there protecting the citizens and I must say


           10              I commend these police officers, men and


           11              woman that lay their lives on the line every


           12              day for us dealing with drug addicts and


           13              heroine addicts and murders, they leave


           14              their home every morning wondering if I am


           15              going to come alive home or safe, so I


           16              commend the Scranton Police Department and


           17              the leadership.  I have no complaint in


           18              dealing with any of those folks over the


           19              years that I have dealt with.


           20                      And, finally, I'm reminded of the


           21              words of John F. Kennedy, our president when


           22              he said, "Ask not what your country can do


           23              for you, ask what you can do for your


           24              country."


           25                      As citizens we need to start finding






            1              out what we can do and not the government to


            2              make our cities, communities, safer, better


            3              and more positive places to live.  If our


            4              streets are lined with garbage and trash,


            5              organized neighborhood groups should call


            6              the cops together and clean the streets so


            7              DPW could fix the potholes.


            8                      If we are concerned about crime we


            9              need to start getting involved in the lives


           10              of our young people that are on the streets


           11              and we need to start getting involved as


           12              citizens so that the police department and


           13              the government is not bearing this shoulder,


           14              the burden alone.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Cameron.


           16                      MR. CAMERON: Mothers and fathers be


           17              parents.  Thank you very much.  I appreciate


           18              it.  Have a good night.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Marie


           20              Schumacher.


           21                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good evening, Marie


           22              Schumacher, citizen and member of the


           23              Taxpayers' Association.  I certainly hope


           24              you are well-rested and ready to get back to


           25              work and there is lots to do.  First the






            1              agenda items.  Item 3-I.  I was pleased to


            2              see 2006 ended with an operating surplus of


            3              $6,710,010.72.


            4                      Item 5-C.  The mayor has provided no


            5              new funding for capital projects, however,


            6              Item 5-B should be in the capital budget


            7              with the grant shown as the funding source.


            8              Likewise, the refurbishment of


            9              Schimmelpenning Pavilion at Nay Aug should


           10              be a capital budget line item funded by


           11              Leadership Lackawanna.  The veterans'


           12              memorial that are to be placed should not be


           13              paid from the operating budget funds, they


           14              are capital assets.


           15                      The Nay Aug greenhouse that is going


           16              to be put out for bid in November should be


           17              in the capital budget and the funding source


           18              should be identified.  Now, where are the


           19              funds to alter the Wildlife Center to


           20              accommodate five large cats?  Where is the


           21              funding to asphalt the police headquarters


           22              lot?  How many years is the binder layer


           23              expected to last?


           24                      Items 5-I and J should be tabled for


           25              a number of reasons.  The named developer is






            1              not the owner of record according to the


            2              county assessor's website.  The property


            3              address given on Appendix A includes


            4              property owned by the Parking Authority.


            5                   Funding projections provided as backup


            6              assumes CDBG funds of a half a million


            7              dollars and another million dollars of Grow


            8              Greener funds, is this reasonable?  These


            9              are but a few reasons these two items should


           10              be tabled until this is investigated


           11              further.


           12                      Item 5-K.  I am strongly opposed.


           13              The residents of East Mountain accepted the


           14              zoning for the meadow at River Street


           15              Mini-Mart as it was conditioned upon the


           16              installation of a traffic light within two


           17              years of opening.  That never happened.


           18              City engineering said it couldn't be done


           19              until the traffic signal synchronization


           20              project was implemented.  Well, Moosic


           21              Street is also part of this project yet the


           22              Pisano project is being jumped to the head


           23              of the line.  Hasn't the city already done


           24              enough for this project?  Free structure


           25              demolishing, free tree removal, a $250,000






            1              loan which has been subordinated, taking


            2              part of the land so the city has to do the


            3              paving and the alley.  It's time for the


            4              Pisano Brothers to wait their turn.


            5                      Now, let's move to the


            6              administrative priorities and citizens'


            7              protection.  I learned from the Doherty


            8              Deceit message board our health inspector


            9              was suspended for I believe a week over a


           10              $200 issue.  So, in the midst of a hot


           11              summer and with over 500 restaurants we had


           12              no health inspector.  Perhaps the


           13              administrative time spent on this $200 issue


           14              would have been better spent concentrating


           15              on administrative ordinances.


           16                      In mid-April I requested via Right


           17              to Know the locations of the parking


           18              facilities on which the $54,000, 2007 budget


           19              figures were based with annotations for


           20              those excluded to arrive at the reduced 2008


           21              budget amount.  Sounds like a simple


           22              request.  However, after written and


           23              telephonic follow-ups, I finally received a


           24              partial answer which was mailed September 5.


           25              The response consisted of 20 invoices






            1              totaling $44,520.00.  The shocking part was


            2              all of the invoices were dated August 29.  I


            3              can't help but wonder, if these invoices


            4              wouldn't have been sent at all if my letter


            5              hadn't forced the issues.  Time to hassle


            6              the inspector, but no time to send out


            7              invoices in a timely manner.  Amazing.


            8              Maybe next year we could forget to send out


            9              or tax bills until the end of September.


           10                   Now, in late July of 2007 you all


           11              revised the rental registration requirement


           12              to cover all rentals and before that you


           13              didn't have to register unless you had three


           14              or more and you've increased the fees.


           15              Again -- may I continue?


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Please.


           17                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Via Right to Know I


           18              learned that $12,110.00 has been received


           19              through July.  If the August through


           20              December remains the same as in 2007 the


           21              2008 total will be only $14,075.00.  This


           22              would equate to an approximately 938 rental


           23              units, clearly something is amiss.  When


           24              were the invoices sent or perhaps I should


           25              be asking were they sent?  Fees doubled and






            1              collections decreased by 50 percent?  It


            2              makes no sense?  However, the administration


            3              had time to hassle an employee over $200.


            4                   Now I'm concluding, I will look forward


            5              to a report on the 2007 audit from Mrs.


            6              Gatelli in the next order and an explanation


            7              for Mrs. Fanucci on the manner in which the


            8              comments OECD solicited on several budget


            9              transfers will be disposed.  Thank you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.


           11              Schumacher.


           12                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council,


           13              Les Spindler, home owner, Scranton resident.


           14              As everyone probably knows by now, but in


           15              case anyone doesn't know, recently in


           16              Forbe's magazine Scranton was named in the


           17              top ten of America's fastest dying cities.


           18              I wonder why.  We have been saying this at


           19              this podium for about five years now.  And


           20              it was even mentioned in the Doherty


           21              newsletter, which shocked me, but what the


           22              Doherty newsletter that didn't say that out


           23              of the fastest dying cites in the country,


           24              Scranton is the oldest, and to quote Forbe's


           25              magazine, "The oldest city in our top ten,






            1              Scranton, Pa., about 45 percent of it's


            2              population is over 45 years old."


            3                      Do you wonder why?  What is there in


            4              this city to attract young people to this


            5              city?  That's why we have all elderly people


            6              in this city.  What would a lure a young


            7              couple wanting to raise a family to live in


            8              this city?  Can anyone on this council


            9              answer me?  That's what I thought.  Nothing.


           10                   Now, what would lure a person


           11              graduating from the University of Scranton,


           12              for example, to live in this city?  Nothing,


           13              there are no jobs in this city, there is


           14              nothing to keep young people in this city,


           15              there is one person to blame to for that and


           16              it's Chris Doherty and now in the Doherty


           17              newsletter today I see he wants to build a


           18              baseball park downtown?  Where are we going


           19              to put a baseball park in downtown Scranton?


           20              Has this man finally lost his mind?  Maybe


           21              he is going to tear down some parking garage


           22              to put a baseball stadium up there.


           23                      Next on the list, for the past two


           24              summers now I have had a problem with a


           25              person living about two blocks away from me






            1              burning wood in his backyard.  Last summer I


            2              called the police, the first two times the


            3              police went and told the person to stop,


            4              they said it was illegal, the third time I


            5              called the police officer came back to my


            6              house and he said the gentleman shoved a


            7              paper in his face and said it was an


            8              ordinance which council passed in 2002 that


            9              if you had this certain kind of burner you


           10              can burn wood.


           11                      Now, this person lives two blocks


           12              away from me, in the summertime why would


           13              anybody have to burn wood in the summertime?


           14              When they are telling us to conserve energy


           15              I had to put my doors and window and put my


           16              air conditioner on.  I don't think that's


           17              right at all and the police officer also


           18              told me that all of the neighbors around


           19              that area also complained.


           20                      Now, I'm going to ask council to


           21              revisit this ordinance and change it.  There


           22              is absolutely no reason for someone to burn


           23              wood in the summertime.  And, like I said,


           24              why would I have to close my doors and put


           25              my air conditioner on?  I think it's






            1              ridiculous.  Mr. McGoff, would you consider


            2              looking at this ordinance and maybe redoing


            3              it?


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm not familiar with


            5              the ordinance, but we'll look into it.


            6                      MR. SPINDLER: Well, it was done in


            7              2002 and I think it's ridiculous ordinance.


            8              Moving on, last time I was here I stated


            9              that CDTV, Chris Doherty TV, was editing the


           10              tapes.  Well, I guess they are not editing


           11              they only have hour tapes, is that right,


           12              Mr. Courtright?


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know.


           14                      MR. SPINDLER: I think that's what I


           15              heard.  With all the money they have they


           16              can't buy a three-hour tape?  Can't Chris


           17              Doherty give them five bucks to buy a


           18              three-hour tape?  I have a dollar here.  If


           19              everybody from council gives a dollar maybe


           20              we can buy them a tape.  This is ridiculous.


           21              What kind of outfit is this?  They cannot


           22              buy a three-hour tape?


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I don't know.


           24                      MR. SPINDLER: This is most ludicrous


           25              thing I've ever heard, so they have to stop






            1              the tape after every hour and put a new tape


            2              in.  I don't know.  They should go ask Chris


            3              Doherty for five bucks and buy them a tape.


            4                   Next thing, I have to talk about the


            5              police chief making those terrible remarks


            6              to the policewomen and all they got was a


            7              slap on the wrist.  If that happened in any


            8              line of business that person would be fired


            9              on the spot and I work for a financial


           10              institution, if I said at that to a coworker


           11              I wouldn't have a job today and I'm sure,


           12              Mrs. Gatelli, if that was said to someone in


           13              the school district they wouldn't have a


           14              job.  The fire chief, the police chief, they


           15              can say and do whatever they want and Chris


           16              Doherty let's them get away with murder and


           17              this is wrong, something has got to happen


           18              here.


           19                      Next thing, I have asked for line


           20              painting in certain area for years, I drove


           21              by the new bank on the corner of Main and


           22              Luzerne Street and nothing amazes me, there


           23              were beautiful lines that are painted there,


           24              so I don't know why I can't get lines


           25              painted on places I ask.  Since I have more






            1              time, I guess, Mr. McGoff, why was last


            2              week's meeting cancelled?  Can you answer


            3              that?


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.  The vote of the


            5              five members of council.


            6                      MR. SPINDLER: Thank you.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.


            8              Stephanie Gallia.


            9                      MS. GALLIA: Good evening, Council,


           10              how are you tonight?  I just want to go over


           11              some of the stuff we kind of left off with


           12              at the end of the season.  How are we making


           13              out with Mr. McDowell?  What are we learning


           14              on that?  I know Mr. Minora had put a


           15              subpoena out, have we heard back on any of


           16              it?


           17                      MR. MINORA: You want me to answer


           18              it?


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Would you like an answer


           20              to that?


           21                      MS. GALLIA: If he doesn't mind.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Minora, would you --


           23                      MR. MINORA: On August 13 on behalf


           24              of council I filed a petition to enforce the


           25              subpoena, the Court granted a Rule to Show






            1              Cause that requires them, Mr. McDowell and


            2              his representative, to file an answer which


            3              they did around August 29.  They filed a


            4              brief in support of their position, I just


            5              filed our brief in support of our position


            6              today, argument is scheduled for Thursday at


            7              2:00.


            8                      MS. GALLIA:  Okay, excellent.  Thank


            9              you very much.  Okay, that's that.  I was


           10              also wondering have, you know, having dealt


           11              with Mr. McDowell have we done business with


           12              Fidelity other than that that one checking


           13              account or bank account or does anybody


           14              know?  Could we check into that?  I mean,


           15              just curious, but, you know.


           16                      Now onto the safety issues.  How are


           17              we making out with making sure we have


           18              police and fire and all of that?  I mean,


           19              95 percent grievances and, you know, like I


           20              thought Mr. Hayes and Mr. Seitzinger isn't


           21              that their job as public safety director is


           22              to handle any of the grievances that the


           23              police and firemen might have against their


           24              bosses?


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. Hayes does a lot






            1              with their attorneys.


            2                      MS. GALLIA:  Okay.  What exactly are


            3              Mr. Seitzinger's qualifications, do we know?


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know what


            5              his qualifications are, but he is not in the


            6              public safety end, they have removed him


            7              from there to a different position.


            8                      MS. GALLIA: Okay.  All right.


            9              During the summer it also came to my


           10              attention that, you know, the administration


           11              was supposed to be trying to settle


           12              contracts and they setup meetings and didn't


           13              show up again and then they showed up with


           14              the same evidently contract that they


           15              already had out once before, is there any


           16              way we are going to get this settled?  I


           17              mean, safety is an issue here at this point.


           18              We had to my knowledge there is at least 12


           19              policemen that have filed for job


           20              applications over in Taylor, which means


           21              they are just going to leave, we have nobody


           22              replace them, we are all working


           23              short-handed, anybody gets hurt we are in


           24              big trouble.  You know, he is letting things


           25              go.  He is not, you know, we have a chance






            1              to go after, you know, grants and stuff from


            2              the federal and state level for, you know,


            3              equipment and education of our policemen or


            4              firemen and nobody is going after these


            5              grants and stuff and I don't understand,


            6              again, wouldn't that be up to the chiefs of


            7              the departments to make sure?  Well, you


            8              know, and I don't need to go into, somebody


            9              already took care of the Chief Elliott issue


           10              as far as I'm concerned, but I was going to


           11              bring that up because that was very, very


           12              inappropriate what he said to those two


           13              ladies.


           14                      I also would like to address the TV


           15              issue.  I watched it off and on all summer


           16              and nothing.  Nothing.  I watched it last


           17              night to find out they still don't have the


           18              ability to do live broadcasts.  Why did we


           19              do this?  I don't understand it.  Somebody


           20              has got to, you know, work with this


           21              administration because he is killing the


           22              city.  He is.  And the rain is reminding me


           23              today, how are we making out at the issue at


           24              Keyser Avenue and Cameron Avenue and all of


           25              flood zones, is the die cut down in






            1              Greenridge is it coming along, do we know?


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I went down and


            3              looked at it the other day, it seemed like


            4              it's moving along fairly well.  Where?  On


            5              the side of the Market Street Bridge there I


            6              was down there when they did that, and it's


            7              working your way, sorry.


            8                      MS. GALLIA:  What about the Keyser


            9              Avenue issues, do we know how that's coming


           10              along, all of that stuff back there?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I have a letter


           12              that I'll read later onto the Crisp Avenue


           13              Bridge there, they have hit a snag, I don't


           14              think anybody is going to be too happy about


           15              the information that I'm going to give them.


           16                      MS. GALLIA:  Okay.  Well, that's it


           17              for today.  Thank you very much.  I


           18              appreciate your time.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Gallia.


           20              Liz Hubbard.


           21                      MS. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council.


           22              Welcome back.  Liz Hubbard, Scranton


           23              resident.  Bill, you caught me off guard


           24              with -- they are not starting on that levy


           25              at all down there.  They are doing some






            1              subsurface work and draining things, but


            2              it's going to be awhile before we have a


            3              levy.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I was talking over,


            5              I went to took a look at it near the Market


            6              Street Bridge where they put up the wall on


            7              it.


            8                      MS. HUBBARD: Yeah, on the side.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  On the other side


           10              of Market.  On the other side, yeah, and


           11              that looks like --


           12                      MR. HUBBARD: Well, that's great for


           13              the people over there, but for us, no.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I understand.


           15                      MS. HUBBARD: I forget why I'm here


           16              now.  Oh, two things.  I know that it's


           17              rumored that the city does elected


           18              enforcement of blight problems and things


           19              like that, but, Jimmy Stucker been here a


           20              couple of times over the last year regarding


           21              a house at the corner of Dickson Avenue and


           22              Greenridge Street, and the only number I


           23              could see on it was 600, but it's the corner


           24              house.  It is a disgusting pigsty and it's


           25              on Main Street and nothing --






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Liz, what happened,


            2              and I don't mean to interrupt you, what


            3              happened there was a call there from the


            4              police department there was a man down there


            5              and I believe when the police went there, I


            6              don't know if he passed out on the porch or


            7              whatever, when they went there I believe


            8              they called out the inspectors.  It's been


            9              condemned, so hopefully it's going to be --


           10                      MS. HUBBARD: The weeds are this high


           11              and I know for a fact that the city --


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And the interior is


           13              worse.


           14                      MS. HUBBARD: --  terrorized another


           15              person in Greenridge about weeds, etcetera,


           16              and then I drive by and I look at this mess


           17              and I think, where are they?  You know, do


           18              something.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Maybe I'll --


           20                      MS. HUBBARD: We tried to see who the


           21              owner was on the assessor's website and we


           22              couldn't find that address.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI: I know.  We did, too.


           24                      MS. HUBBARD: So I have no idea who


           25              owns it, but they should really get rid of






            1              it.  You are talking about the gateway to


            2              the city with the Dunkin Donuts and that


            3              beautiful, beautiful job they did on that


            4              corner of Mulberry and Jefferson, somebody


            5              ought to pave the 200 and 300 block of


            6              Jefferson because if that's the gateway to


            7              the city --


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  That's a state road.


            9                      MS. HUBBARD: -- you are lucky if


           10              you've got wheels on your car if you go over


           11              those two blocks.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  That's a state road.


           13                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, then where is the


           14              state?


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  Yeah, we ought to send


           16              them a letter.  It's deplorable.


           17                      MS. HUBBARD: It's disgusting.  My


           18              next issue is not new, the skunks, and I'm


           19              thinking maybe that guy over by Les's is


           20              burning wood thinking the smoke will keep


           21              the skunks away.  You guys give all of this


           22              money in grants and loans to all of these


           23              places in the city why can't you spend some


           24              of that money in hire somebody to get rid of


           25              the skunks?  Gas was so high this summer






            1              people couldn't afford to go anywhere and


            2              it's nice you want to enjoy your backyard


            3              and dusk comes and you have to leave because


            4              out come the skunks and, I mean, they are


            5              everywhere.  People stop me no matter where


            6              I go that live in different areas of the


            7              city and they all have a skunk problem.  If


            8              this was rats you would be after them in a


            9              heartbeat.  I would rather take my chance on


           10              being treated for the bubonic plague than I


           11              would rabies, so let's get after those


           12              skunks.  I mean, you guys ought to be able


           13              to do something.  Get a state grant.  You


           14              give grants to everybody else.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: You can't use grant


           16              money for that, that's the problem, but we


           17              probably can look into other resources that


           18              may be we could do our own program, but you


           19              can't use grant money.


           20                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, take some of this


           21              money you spend on landscaping and the park


           22              and planting flowers and get rid of the


           23              skunks, and I'm trying to control my


           24              language here, because it's disgusting, it


           25              really is.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: They are bad.


            2                      MS. HUBBARD:  My dog won't even go


            3              out on the leash anymore because she smells


            4              the skunk and she is afraid there every


            5              night, so try to get on that, and I guess


            6              that's all I have.  Oh, what is this on here


            7              about this flood on "D" on the agenda,


            8              conveyance by sealed bid of three parcels of


            9              land acquired, where is that land located?


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  It says Shawnee


           11              Avenue on here.


           12                      MS. HUBBARD: Shawnee Avenue, I


           13              thought they were all done with that flood


           14              project over there.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Evidently they


           16              needed to acquire some more property there.


           17                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, they better start


           18              acquiring a lot of dirt and stuff and


           19              getting that levy done.  Anyway, thanks.


           20              Have a nice evening.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


           22              Joe Talimini.


           23                      MR. TALIMINI: Joe Talimini.  First


           24              I'd like to welcome you all back to from an


           25              extended vacation.  It was very nice of you






            1              to come back and decide to meet with the


            2              citizens.  Mrs. Evans, I noticed that you


            3              mentioned several crosswalks which were


            4              being repaved, nothing about the one


            5              directly across the street here at Mulberry


            6              and North Washington where we lost one of


            7              other tenants last year and she was hit by a


            8              car while she was trying to cross in her


            9              wheelchair, and the ruts are still there


           10              and, you know, I just think that should be a


           11              priority especially since it's right across


           12              the street from city hall, and we lost a


           13              71-year-old woman who was in pretty good


           14              health up until that time.


           15                      Mr. Courtright, I believe last year


           16              it was brought up that we had a piece of


           17              equipment that DPW had which was supposed to


           18              be used for paving or something, did they


           19              ever find that thing?


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That was the


           21              infamous pothole machine.  I think it's


           22              being stored down at the Sewer Authority.


           23              My understanding is it's all but junk right


           24              now.


           25                      MR. TALIMINI: Well, I'm sure it is,






            1              it's never been used.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  In my opinion it


            3              was a mistake when we bought it and it just


            4              got worse as time went on.  I actually was


            5              hoping they would have sold it before it got


            6              to the point where now it's probably not


            7              worth anything other than scrap.


            8                      MR. TALIMINI: I checked with one our


            9              state representatives who is on the


           10              transportation committee about repairs on


           11              North Washington Avenue and he assured me he


           12              would get back to me and that was over a


           13              month ago, but a couple of months it will


           14              election time and I know he will get back to


           15              me before then, but in the mean time I think


           16              it's incumbent upon you people to put some


           17              pressure on the state because North


           18              Washington Avenue is in very bad shape, as


           19              you well know.  Several of the streets in


           20              this town are now -- Mulberry Street when


           21              you get up by the University it's like a


           22              roller coaster ride and, unfortunately, my


           23              shocks aren't that good in my car because if


           24              they were I probably would be going over the


           25              top of buildings after I hit that bump, but






            1              I know Mayor Doherty has this on his


            2              wishlist, but I have something on my


            3              wishlist, too.  I wish Mayor Doherty would


            4              forget about Nay Aug Park and start putting


            5              some money into the city for the benefit of


            6              all the citizens, especially paving our


            7              roads.  I don't know when the last time they


            8              were paved, but, my God, if it's necessary


            9              I'm sure I could get a crew out there if you


           10              people supply the tar we will lay the damn


           11              stuff ourselves and do something because


           12              this is absolutely ridiculous.


           13                      I mean, you talk about what a


           14              beautiful city this is until the people come


           15              here and have to drive on the streets.


           16              Well, I'll tell you what, the next time I


           17              break a tire or a shock or anything else I'm


           18              bringing the bill up here personally and I


           19              expect to be reimbursed for it because I am


           20              up to here with this nonsense and if you


           21              spend another dime on Nay Aug Park you


           22              better spend a couple of hundred thousand


           23              dollars on the streets, and I don't care who


           24              likes it.  And that's all I have to say for


           25              you, and again, welcome back.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Talimini.


            2                      MS. STULGIS: I'm here this evening


            3              to share with you a statement made by Robert


            4              Martin, president of Lodge II, Fraternal


            5              Order of Police, which includes the Scranton


            6              Police Department:  "This is in response to


            7              the disciplinary actions by the City of


            8              Scranton against Chief David Elliott for his


            9              admitted gross misconduct and outrageous


           10              behavior.  On August 4, 2008, a grievance


           11              was received alleging a violation of a


           12              collective bargaining agreement, Article 28,


           13              prohibition against discrimination that


           14              reads:  The city and the FOP agree that they


           15              shall not discriminate against any member of


           16              the bargaining unit with regard to age, sex,


           17              marital status, race, creed, color, national


           18              origin or membership in the FOP."


           19                      Martin immediately conducted a


           20              preliminary hearing investigation to ensure


           21              the validity of this grievance.  Upon


           22              validation and due to the nature and gravity


           23              of the grievance, he immediately forwarded


           24              it to the FOP attorney.  In the course of


           25              our president's investigation he discovered






            1              that on April 20 Chief Elliott mandated


            2              officers Jane Doe to work Senator Barack


            3              Obama's visit to the Riverfront complex.


            4              During that shift, Chief Elliott approached


            5              officers Jane Doe and said, and I quote, "I


            6              thought you and Jane were my overtime whores


            7              and now what, you want to be mommies and


            8              wives?"


            9                      Then, on the afternoon of July 7 at


           10              approximately 3:30 p.m. the same two


           11              officers entered the chief's office to


           12              signup for work on the COM-D foot patrols.


           13              Chief Elliott was sitting in his outer


           14              office talking to his four secretaries and a


           15              uniformed male officer.  As the two female


           16              officers entered the chief looked at them


           17              and said, and I quote, "Here come my two


           18              whores now."


           19                      According to statements President


           20              Martin received, there was an immediate


           21              response from one of the secretaries to that


           22              comment.  It was unclear who spoke and who


           23              said what.  Approximately two minutes later


           24              Chief Elliott and Lieutenant Amaka entered


           25              the chief's inner office, had a brief






            1              discussion and the lieutenant left.


            2                      As the two female officers turned to


            3              leave, Chief Elliott looked at them and


            4              said, and again I quote, "You guys know I


            5              meant overtime whores."


            6                      The officers left humiliated,


            7              embarrassed and demeaned.  The EB Jermyn


            8              Lodge No. 2 is extremely disappointed with


            9              the discipline given to Chief David Elliott


           10              for his admitted gross misconduct and


           11              outrageous behavior toward his subordinates.


           12              We do not accept this as a one-time mistake


           13              or a slip of the tongue.  This is a


           14              continuous course of conduct that has


           15              steadily escalated to this disgraceful


           16              point.  We cannot and we will not tolerate


           17              this disrespectful treatment of our members


           18              and we will pursue this matter to a more


           19              just end.


           20                      We have filed for arbitration.  We


           21              have filed with the Human Relations


           22              Commission.  We have filed the Equal


           23              Employment Opportunity Commission.  In each


           24              instances we will pursue all legal recourses


           25              necessary to repair the damage needlessly






            1              done to these fine police officers.  The


            2              citizens of Scranton expect and deserve a


            3              professionally lead police department.


            4                      Our officers should be treated with


            5              dignity and with respect.  President Martin


            6              added that he personally is honored and


            7              humbled to represent these courageous women.


            8              He has had the privilege to work side by


            9              side with these two outstanding officers,


           10              officers who are the standard of all the men


           11              and women in the Scranton Police Department.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  David


           13              Dobson.  No?  Mr. Dobson has chosen to not


           14              speak.  Are there any other speakers?


           15                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Yes, I would like to


           16              speak.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, we have number of


           18              people who may want to.  Mr. Davis.


           19                      MR. DAVIS: Salaam aleikum, peace and


           20              blessings of the law be with you.  The


           21              vacation, I'm quite sure was glamorous for


           22              some.  For us in the trenches it was very


           23              disheartening.  We saw our fences and our


           24              tennis courts and our basketball courts


           25              being chained off by the school board.






            1              These are the people that allow -- we


            2              allowed them to come into our area and they


            3              took our homes.  Originally the city and the


            4              school board were supposed to maintain these


            5              things for the community as well and now


            6              it's all totally fenced off, so therefore,


            7              the community can't use this property.  The


            8              kids can't use the basketball courts nor the


            9              tennis courts and I wonder, I have been


           10              coming to you for three years saying this is


           11              what could happen.  I have been saying to


           12              you that they placed signs and said you


           13              couldn't use it from dawn to dusk and


           14              nobody, nobody on this city council said a


           15              word to them, not one word was brought out


           16              of the city from you.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. Davis?


           18                      MR. DAVIS: Yes.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT; I think we went down


           20              this road before, that was the school


           21              district's property.  We had no control over


           22              that.


           23                      MR. DAVIS: If you remember, well,


           24              I'm saying that HUD, that property was all


           25              bought up by HUD.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That part I don't


            2              know, I just don't know -- at the time you


            3              were talking about it was the school


            4              district had it and the reason they put the


            5              signs up after dusk was because there was a


            6              lot of drug activity there and they were


            7              finding syringes and whatnot after hours,


            8              that's why the signs were there.  I know


            9              that's not what you want to hear, but that's


           10              just the way it is.


           11                      MR. DAVIS: I'm saying and I'm quite


           12              sure there were drug signs, there were all


           13              sorts of -- but, that has been going on


           14              there for 15 years.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: That doesn't make it


           16              right.


           17                      MR. DAVIS: Seriously.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm just trying to


           19              answer you.


           20                      MR. DAVIS: And nobody has done a


           21              thing about it.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: But we have no


           23              control over it.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: It wasn't us.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I was the school






            1              district.


            2                      MR. DAVIS: If you had said to them


            3              it was done by Tony Perry, it was done for


            4              the community, that is their play area.


            5              Petersburg has their play area, West Side


            6              has two or three play areas, South Side has


            7              theirs, central city doesn't have one and


            8              I'm saying that are kids are at risk, the


            9              kids are at risk.  The kids are learning to


           10              disrespect --


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm not saying they


           12              don't deserve one, they certainly deserve


           13              one, I'm saying that particular one we had


           14              no control over.  Do I think they deserve a


           15              play area?  Absolutely, and maybe --


           16                      MR. DAVIS:  Originally you did have.


           17              I'm saying that originally when that was put


           18              together --


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Before my time on --


           20                      MR. DAVIS:  Oh before you, yes.


           21              Everybody here is new.  I mean, I'm going


           22              back ten years, I'm going back five years,


           23              you know, you didn't even -- we didn't even


           24              know Fanucci was a name.  I'm saying to you


           25              that there are things that have occurred in






            1              this community and it gets worse and worse


            2              every day.  It does.  I mean, it's worse


            3              than if you said that I'm going to -- I'm


            4              going to embark on a mode or on a practice


            5              of slavery, we are going to enslave this


            6              area, we are going to enslave it so they


            7              will never grow up again, they will never


            8              own another piece of property in this sector


            9              again you have done it, and I have never


           10              seen the city with all of it's grandiose,


           11              all of it's beautiful words, I have never


           12              seen you come to their plate.  I have never


           13              seen on your own even say, "What's going on


           14              here?  Why is this occurring here?  Why do


           15              you put chains on fences?"  I don't even see


           16              changes on fences in West Side.  But, we


           17              have them in central city.  It's not


           18              permitted.  How can you do -- that's public


           19              school property.  That's public school


           20              property.  That means it's for the public as


           21              well as for the school, as long as we are


           22              not destroying the property then you have to


           23              let it allowed, but that's not true here.


           24              For some reason or another.


           25                      What you have done in that






            1              community.  First of all, with the highrise


            2              or the Washington Plaza you went in there


            3              and one guy, Fioroni, the guy who works for


            4              you, went in there and said, "No good.


            5              Let's close it down."


            6                      Boom.  It was closed down.  You


            7              didn't say why?  You didn't question him.


            8              He left the job one week later.  He quit


            9              this job.  I don't know what happened to


           10              him.  I have been trying to find him, but I


           11              can't find him, and I want to know why he


           12              put -- what were the grounds that he gave


           13              and nobody seems to know.  I cannot find out


           14              reasons for why they closed that development


           15              down.  Now they have come through and said


           16              now the much underpinnings or the


           17              construction of it was unsafe, etcetera,


           18              etcetera, but yet it's only going to cost


           19              them $3 million to fix it.  That's what they


           20              said.  Now, this is what they said at the


           21              Scranton Housing yesterday, and that's


           22              wrong.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr. Davis.


           24                      MR. DAVIS: Please, open your eyes.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Davis.






            1                      MR. BICKLER: Hi.  My name is Kurt


            2              Bickler, I'm a Scranton resident and


            3              taxpayer.  It's my first time here at city


            4              council, I'm a little bit nervous so bear


            5              with me.  It's very nice to meet you in


            6              person, Janet Evans, I have been very in


            7              favor of all you have been doing on city


            8              council as well as the others here, but you


            9              stand up with integrity and I applaud that.


           10                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           11                      MR. BICKLER:  I also come as a


           12              representative of Olive Branch Ministries


           13              from the Steamtown Church and my friend


           14              left, unfortunately, leaving me here to talk


           15              by myself, I'm kind of nervous, but it was


           16              very interesting to go out and to actually


           17              meet the people who do not have a home and I


           18              have worked around homeless people for well


           19              over five years in the local agency, but I


           20              have never really actually gone out and seen


           21              where they live or, you know, I don't want


           22              to use the word live and it was quite an


           23              eye-opener and I would just encourage all of


           24              you to be aware of the serious problem in


           25              this area called homelessness and we try and






            1              do what we can and clean up the area, so we


            2              did meet a little -- meet up with a little


            3              opposition, but we dealt with it and they


            4              were very kind and we went our way and


            5              everything.


            6                      Another concern I have is basically


            7              the tiger cubs up at Nay Aug Park.  I'm a


            8              big animal lover and I'm just a little bit


            9              concerned that they are being taken care of


           10              properly.  I haven't been up there to really


           11              see them, I need to go up and see them I


           12              guess.  I remember Nay Aug Park as a child


           13              and I need to go up there and see how the


           14              tiger cubs are doing.


           15                      And it's not so bad being up here


           16              speaking behind the podium, but my last


           17              concern is I was out the other day walking


           18              through by the courthouse and I was really


           19              impressed by the courthouse improvements and


           20              my only thing is there was, and I know


           21              church and state there is a division, so I'm


           22              going to be very discreet with this, there


           23              was one statement that was attributed to


           24              anonymous, so I would like you all to


           25              consider, you know, who that anonymous






            1              person is, and I don't know if that's


            2              because of church and state, but I can


            3              understand.  I don't know if I'm making


            4              sense.  There's a statement on the wall that


            5              is basically a biblical reference and it was


            6              attributed to anonymous.  Now, I can


            7              understand if that's division of church and


            8              state, I can understand, but I don't know, I


            9              just want to -- I was a little concerned


           10              about that because whoever wrote that do


           11              they really -- do they know that someone


           12              really said that and who that person is?


           13              You know, we all know what I'm talking


           14              about, so once again, it was very good being


           15              here and I hope I made sense.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: You did.  Can I ask you


           17              a question, sir?


           18                      MR. BICKLER: Yes.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI: Is there anywhere that


           20              anyone can contact you if they want to help


           21              volunteer with the organization to go out


           22              and help the homeless?


           23                      MR. BICKLER:  Well, they can look up


           24              Steamtown Church in the phone book.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Okay.






            1                      MR. BICKLER:  We have -- I'm just a


            2              representative, I haven't been going there a


            3              long time, so I don't mean to speak for the


            4              church.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: No, it's good for


            6              people to know if they want to contacts you.


            7              We get a lot of inquiries after people come


            8              here.


            9                      MR. BICKLER: Steamtown Church meets


           10              at, if I may, the Red Carpet Inn Sundays at


           11              10:30, it's right off Mulberry.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: All right.  Thank you


           13              so much.


           14                      MR. BICKLER: You're welcome.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, sir.


           16                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Praise be Jesus, Mary


           17              and all you Holy people in the City of


           18              Scranton.  Shalom, assalamu alaikum, Pache,


           19              may the peace of God be with everyone at


           20              this point.  I had a couple of papers here.


           21              I hope you had a wonderful vacation,


           22              everybody.  I am truth and truth in it's


           23              fullest.  My citizenship is in heaven, not


           24              here on earth, so my build up is for the


           25              citizens in all of heaven.  Many people have






            1              being dying of cancer, and when I lived at


            2              Valley View apartments my hair was falling


            3              out and I had water, it was distorted coming


            4              out just when I came back from Rome, and I


            5              called PPL and PPL came up, but they never


            6              gave me anything that had to do with or they


            7              never give me anything which I should have


            8              been reported.  Everybody is worried about


            9              the potholes, they are complaining about the


           10              next door neighbor's houses, we are little


           11              God and a loving neighbor, so why don't we


           12              all kind of roll up our hands, roll up our


           13              cuff things and go to that person and find


           14              out if they are sick, how they could help


           15              them before they take away their property


           16              because they don't know how people are or


           17              with their back lifestyle is.


           18                      What I came upon is the scientists


           19              would call me a clairvoyant, the church


           20              would call me a prophetess.  I pursue to be


           21              really a prophetess of the Lord Jesus for


           22              peace and reconciliation.  The nuclear power


           23              plant might support us of life, and I won't


           24              tell you everything, but I will tell you


           25              this much, don't worry about the potholes,






            1              don't worry about the gravel, and don't


            2              worry about the rocks, love each other


            3              because the United States has been split in


            4              half and we are a repercussion of the


            5              nuclear plants out toward the north and we


            6              are all literally dying.


            7                      This paper was in 1971 confiscated


            8              all over, I won't expose the names, but what


            9              I was doing was bringing rocks and all,


           10              which I didn't understand each one of them


           11              was equaling a name of a nuclear power


           12              plant.  While President Bush doesn't want


           13              any power plants all over the other


           14              countries and 17 and 18 and 14 and


           15              13-year-old children are dying in other


           16              countries because they don't have


           17              electricity, it's appalling, it's appalling,


           18              it's appalling.


           19                      So, I'm submitting something because


           20              Spencer Bush, whoever he is, if is he


           21              related to Mr. Bush, was on this so I'm


           22              submitting this into the City of Scranton to


           23              be sent to the environmental representative


           24              in Washington D.C. to tell them end nuclear


           25              war, end abortion, end euthanasia, love






            1              each, this is the time and this is at hand.


            2              When God returns to God we can't keep making


            3              all kind of instruments, all kind of stuff


            4              and killing each other because this is not


            5              the way of God, so I'm submitting this in.


            6              It's called "Poison Power."  I'm submitting


            7              this in because everything I was bringing in


            8              I was not aware of every single one of the


            9              ways and the places where it's at.  I will


           10              not reveal it, but I will reveal it to the


           11              board to present back to Washington D.C.


           12                   The second thing, Lauren Finn.  Lauren


           13              Finn -- everybody knows I have been raped,


           14              attacked and murdered --


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis --


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Phyllis --


           17                      MS. HUMPHRIES: -- practically


           18              murdered, I want this case opened up because


           19              the man who attacked me and raped me raped


           20              Lauren Finn and the other guy is innocent in


           21              jail.  I want him to released.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Please stop.  Thank you.


           23                      MS. HUMPHRIES:  I will claim all the


           24              land for everybody that abused me and their


           25              homes and I will turn it back to the






            1              American Indians where it belongs.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


            3                      MS. HUMPHRIES: And those girls that


            4              got injured, tell them they will go down to


            5              the blessed mother and the police


            6              department.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.  Thank you.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Phyllis.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: That's good.  Thank you.


           10                      MS. HUMPHRIES: God bless you.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: God bless you.


           12                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.


           13              I'm glad to see everybody here.  I think we


           14              are pretty much like a family on this side


           15              and you guys on the other side sometimes are


           16              adopted.


           17                      You know, I'd like to say a couple


           18              of things here.  One is that, you know,


           19              Mr. Davis when he got up here and spoke, and


           20              there was a little discussion here about


           21              drug use and other problems there, you know,


           22              that's a situation that the Scranton Police


           23              Department should be handling, but the truth


           24              of the matter here is that for all of the


           25              discussions that are taking place about






            1              wages and everything else in regards to the


            2              Scranton Police Department I think we


            3              finally have to realize that this police


            4              department is seriously undermanned, that's


            5              my opinion.  I think we have some very


            6              serious problems in this city because we are


            7              spending money in all of the wrong places


            8              and the money that would benefit the


            9              citizens just isn't there.  It's being


           10              squandered.  It's being syphoned off, the


           11              problems are just horrendous.  We are going


           12              to turn into Wilkes-Barre soon.  We are


           13              going to have just problems beyond ordinary


           14              residents belief, and I think part of this


           15              problem has been shown here tonight by just


           16              what Mrs. Schumacher said here at the


           17              podium, and some people may wonder, well,


           18              what did she say?  She said everything that


           19              every member of this council should have


           20              known before they introduced this agenda


           21              tonight.  She knew facts about what was on


           22              the agenda, she had facts about a lot of the


           23              things that are happening here in the city,


           24              and to be honest with you I think that the


           25              council should be bringing those facts to






            1              the people.


            2                      I mean, you see the state of affairs


            3              here in this council chamber by what's


            4              happening to Scranton Today.  They did a


            5              wonderful job with no money here for a very


            6              long time, people community oriented giving


            7              their own time basically to make this city


            8              better and what we have done is we have


            9              allowed politics to come in and remove the


           10              one asset that benefited not only the city


           11              but the community at large so now when we


           12              have basically nothing.  Nothing.


           13                      We have had money siphoned to ECTV,


           14              now we have grant money getting ready to be


           15              thrown to them, but you know, when you look


           16              at what Scranton Tomorrow did with no money,


           17              no money, all of the broadcasting they did,


           18              everything for the welfare of the community


           19              and you have to look at why because there


           20              was too much information there.  The


           21              residents of this city received information


           22              they never could have got anywhere else and


           23              you know what that did that informed them


           24              and my opinion is that some people in local


           25              government couldn't be elected with that






            1              channel on the air.  It had to be


            2              controlled, it had to be either destroyed or


            3              it's format had to be changed and in my


            4              opinion since Scranton Tomorrow wouldn't


            5              change their format the mayor crushed them.


            6                   Now, I had an opportunity to go when


            7              Mr. Pilchesky presented the zoning argument


            8              in Court, I think that he was right on the


            9              mark.  Everything he said was absolutely the


           10              truth.  I think he did a wonderful job for


           11              somebody that is not an attorney.  I think


           12              he presented his argument extremely well and


           13              from what I understand the judge didn't even


           14              issue an opinion on how he came to his


           15              conclusion.  Somebody in the higher court is


           16              going to look down at this guy and say,


           17              "Pal, where did you get this from?"


           18                      He is going to have to answer to


           19              somebody.  I took a day off of work to go


           20              see two cases, one was in regard to your


           21              complaint, Mrs. Gatelli, and I'm not going


           22              to say very much on that except that I think


           23              in my opinion you are on very serious thin


           24              ice and --


           25                      MS. GATELLI: Well, that's your






            1              opinion, Mr. Morgan.


            2                      MR. MORGAN:  Absolutely.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Morgan, if it's


            4              still in litigation we probably shouldn't


            5              talk about it.


            6                      MR. MORGAN:  Well, it is in


            7              litigation.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you.


            9                      MR. MORGAN: But I think that the


           10              freedom of speech gives me the opportunity


           11              to come here and speak of my concerns as a


           12              resident of this city speaking about


           13              mismanagement of this city.  You have other


           14              people coming up talking about selective


           15              enforcement by various city inspectors.  I


           16              would have to say that I agree that that's


           17              happening.  I think what we have created in


           18              this city is a cycle of fear.  The residents


           19              are afraid of their own government and not


           20              only are they afraid of it, they are being


           21              taxed out of their homes.  There is just no


           22              excuse for the condition the city is in, but


           23              the cycle of borrowing continues and I think


           24              in order for this city to change we need


           25              cooperation, non-politics, we need informed






            1              council people and, you know, we have all


            2              talked about restoring the pride.  What does


            3              that mean for this city.  Look and really


            4              take a good hard look at this city and look


            5              at the neighborhoods.  They are a mess, and


            6              now we are taking the last couple of pennies


            7              they have in their pocket and we are taking


            8              out of them one way or the another.  Thank


            9              you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr. Morgan.


           11              Anyone else?


           12                      MR. ANCHERANI: The closer.  Good


           13              evening.  Nelson Ancherani, resident and


           14              taxpayer.  It's been awhile since I have


           15              been here.  I didn't know what to do with my


           16              Tuesday nights.  Only kidding.  A lot has


           17              happened since the meetings were scheduled


           18              on Tuesday mornings and council's August


           19              recess, that kept me from attending.  I bet


           20              there were more persons who were unable to


           21              attend.


           22                      Anyway, we are back to Tuesday


           23              evenings and from what I understand the


           24              meetings will be taped and shown two times


           25              the next day and one time the day after.






            1              What's with ECTV?  I thought they were going


            2              to be taping council live?  Since they were


            3              picked over four months ago you would think


            4              they would be in full gear right now.  Oh,


            5              well, maybe they were picked to be the TV


            6              station for the city for the reason I


            7              believe they were picked, limit showing the


            8              live meeting and limit rebroadcasts, but


            9              that's my opinion.  When you think about it,


           10              instead of giving tens of thousands of


           11              dollars to a TV station that was just


           12              starting up, why not give money to a TV


           13              station, Channel 61, that was already


           14              established?  My guess is that some people


           15              like being pennywise and dollar foolish.


           16                      I suppose three of you up there


           17              think I'm talking about you, but you are


           18              right, I am.  You are the same three who


           19              raised our taxes 25 percent in 2007 while


           20              $12,200,000 plus was being accumulated in an


           21              account in the Single Tax Office.  An


           22              account no one knew about.  By the way,


           23              what's the status of the audit?  I want to


           24              thank our tax collector and the tax office


           25              solicitor for finding the account.  Wouldn't






            1              it be nice if there was more money out there


            2              waiting to be found?


            3                      While I am thanking people I want to


            4              commend the people who are out there


            5              picketing and informing the public about


            6              ECTV.  I give them credit for being


            7              courageous enough to care about what is


            8              going on in this city and to put themselves


            9              in a thankless job in informing the public,


           10              an apathetic public at best.


           11                      I commend the council speakers for


           12              showing the courage to speak out.  Come on,


           13              People, show an interest.  Get to council


           14              and show your elected officials what you


           15              think.  Don't forget we are two months away


           16              from November 15 when the 2009 budget will


           17              be presented to city council by the


           18              administration.  Don't forget that our


           19              $85,000 business administrator was talking


           20              about an at least $5 million loan to get us


           21              through until 2009.  But then again, don't


           22              forget about the 12 million two-hundred


           23              dollars plus interest that was found in the


           24              tax office account.


           25                      I'm going to predict again that this






            1              year even though there is that 12 million in


            2              the tax office account that we will be hit


            3              with a 25 percent tax increase, a multiple


            4              million dollar loan and another record city


            5              budget, that's over $85 million.  That's


            6              three predictions.  And just in case


            7              Mrs. Fanucci, Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. McGoff


            8              don't feel left out, I'll mention that it


            9              was Mrs. Fanucci, Mrs. Gatelli and


           10              Mr. McGoff who voted for and passed the


           11              25 percent tax increase for 2007.


           12                      Now, since I was unable to attend a


           13              council meetings I don't know if the issues


           14              at hand were addressed so let's just review


           15              some of them:  $15 million given to


           16              favorites in raises and new hires since


           17              2002.  This does not include the


           18              electricians used to setup the Christmas


           19              lights, the consultants or other


           20              miscellaneous parties who did work for the


           21              city.  I still can't figure out why the


           22              Scranton Parking Authority got $803,000 for


           23              citation issuers this year when there are


           24              only eight if I'm correct.  That would be


           25              over 100,000 for each one of them for this






            1              year.  The 803,000 is above and beyond the


            2              $35 million loan or bond that was approved


            3              for the parking authority with the 94 -- I'm


            4              sorry, 94 million payback.  Over 300 million


            5              long-term debt inclusive of the parking


            6              authority loan.  I haven't checked the green


            7              or black fish pond this year, so I wonder


            8              what color it is now.  And that's all for


            9              now, but we have to remember Arnold's famous


           10              words, "I'll be back."  Thank you.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Ancherani, can we


           12              extend our friendly wager from last year to


           13              this year?


           14                      MR. ANCHERANI:  Sure, but if I lose


           15              you will get your coffees plus I'll donate


           16              to the Swim Club.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you.  Anyone


           18              else?  Thank you.  Mrs. Evans.


           19                      MS. EVANS: Good evening.  I'm very


           20              pleased to be back in session and let's get


           21              busy.  As of today there has been no further


           22              word on the appearance of Mr. McDowell,


           23              former tax collector, at council.  However,


           24              a hearing is scheduled for September 11,


           25              2008, to determine if Mr. McDowell must






            1              abide by council's subpoena.  In the


            2              interim, council continues to receive


            3              monthly reports from the Single Tax Office,


            4              a vast improvement over the prior procedure


            5              whereby no reports were forwarded to


            6              council.


            7                      According to information provided on


            8              August 5 the following comparisons between


            9              July 31, 2007, and August 4, 2008, were


           10              presented:  7-31-07, city real estate


           11              collections bank deposit, $208,184.73.  City


           12              earned income tax bank deposits, same date,


           13              $700,434.89 for a total of $908,619.62.


           14                      Now, as of 7-31-08, city real estate


           15              collections bank deposit $221,259.52.  City


           16              earned income tax collections bank deposit


           17              $926,624.78 for a total of $1,147,84.30.


           18                      Obviously, the Scranton Single Tax


           19              Office is seeing a healthy increase in tax


           20              collections simply by doing it's job.


           21              Although, real estate and earned income


           22              taxes are up over last year's numbers, it


           23              seems there has been a major decrease in the


           24              real estate transfer tax.


           25                      Also, council may expect to receive






            1              information on the administration's balloon


            2              borrowing shortly as the mayor is exploring


            3              a line of credit approach to additional


            4              borrowing.


            5                      According to a letter received by


            6              council on August 4, 2008, Robert Rossi &


            7              Company, the independent auditor for council


            8              still had not received nine items requested


            9              of Mr. Renda which are necessary to the


           10              completion of the 2007 audit.  Since that


           11              time, however, the Scranton Redevelopment


           12              Authority completed and submitted it's


           13              audited financial statements, however, the


           14              progress on the other items remains quite


           15              slow.


           16                      On a new topic, I am surprised that


           17              the $90,000 in OECD funds approved by city


           18              council in July have not been released to


           19              the ECTV.  Apparently, this funding has


           20              become part of the 2009 CDBG allocations.


           21              Why then did the mayor rush this legislation


           22              to council months ahead of all other


           23              allocations, in fact, well ahead of the CDBG


           24              application and deadline process.


           25                      Further, council twice requested the






            1              date of blight declaration for 933 Prescott


            2              Avenue from OECD.  The request contained


            3              deadlines of July 28 and later August 15.


            4              To date, no response has been received,


            5              thus, we might assume that this property


            6              which houses our new public access station


            7              ECTV was, in fact, never blighted.  Yet,


            8              federal funds were given by the mayor to


            9              eliminate blight in the basement of the


           10              property.


           11                      Further, this $10,000 allocation


           12              never came before council or the citizens


           13              for input or approval.  Is that perhaps why


           14              ECTV funding has now become tied to 2009


           15              CDBG allocations?  Without proper


           16              documentation people are left to assume the


           17              worst.  Attorney Minora researched federal


           18              statutes and regulations as well as local


           19              ordinances regarding the dispersement of


           20              UDAG funds, specifically, the $10,000


           21              dispersement to the East Scranton Business


           22              Association by the mayor.


           23                      In a memorandum to council received


           24              July 29, 2008, Attorney Minora states that


           25              the federal statutory and regulatory scheme






            1              relating to CDBG and UDAG grants does not


            2              actually concern itself with how the local


            3              municipality disperses such funds, rather,


            4              they elaborate on eligibility and


            5              appropriate use of such funds.  He goes onto


            6              say that Title 42, Chapter 69 of US codes,


            7              does state: "Prior to receiving the funds


            8              the grantee," that is the city, "must


            9              furnish a statement of objectives and in


           10              furtherance thereof must have at least one


           11              public meeting.


           12                      In addition, the citizens and units


           13              of general local government must be given


           14              notice and an opportunity to comment on any


           15              substantial change to be made in the use of


           16              the funds.  The City of Scranton ordinances


           17              are clear, to wit, that the dispersement of


           18              UDAG funds are required to be approved by


           19              the City of Scranton's governing body in


           20              File of Council 92 of 1991.


           21                      The ordinance requires that


           22              additional legislation must be approved by


           23              the governing body prior to disbursements


           24              and/or transferring of said repayments.


           25              This ordinance applies to you UDAG repayment






            1              funds and UDAG programs ceased approximately


            2              20 years ago.  Scranton's HUD


            3              representative, Mr. Steven Stein, would have


            4              preferred that UDAG repayment monies be


            5              treated the same as CDBG, that is, that


            6              citizens participation be allowed prior to


            7              dispersement.  The money provided to the


            8              East Scranton Business Association has


            9              purportedly been used to fund ECTV, yet, the


           10              only two documents concerning the East


           11              Scranton Business Association and ECTV


           12              funding are a copy of a check and a thank


           13              you letter.  There is no application for the


           14              funds and no ability to follow-up it's


           15              usage.


           16                      In conclusion, Attorney Minora


           17              states that given the past practice of using


           18              the UDAG funds from the $577,000 for


           19              eligible projects included in File of


           20              Council 20 of 2006, the result of a legal


           21              challenge to the 10,000 distribution to ESVA


           22              and to ECTV is unlikely to succeed.  Other


           23              legislative remedies to a future occurrence


           24              should be explored in his opinion.


           25                   Therefore, I move that council -- or






            1              rather our council solicitor Minora draft


            2              legislation to provide Scranton City Council


            3              with oversight of UDAG funds specifically


            4              all UDAG uses and dispersement of funds must


            5              be presented to Scranton City Council for


            6              it's approval.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry.  I'm sorry, I


            9              was --


           10                      MS. EVANS: You missed the boat.


           11                      MS. GATELLI: The crux of it --


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: My apologies.


           13                      MS. EVANS: That's fine.  At the


           14              conclusion of the memorandum from Attorney


           15              Minora, he suggests that the best remedy to


           16              this situation would be legislation to


           17              prevent any future occurrence and so I made


           18              a motion to have our solicitor draft


           19              legislation to provide city council with the


           20              ability to review and vote on UDAG funds


           21              prior to their use and dispersement.


           22                      MS. GATELLI: And he seconded it and


           23              now it's going to be on the question.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: All right.  Thank you.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: And my concern on the






            1              question is it was always my understanding


            2              that UDAG money was discretionary and did


            3              not have to go before council, so I would --


            4              I'm not going to be voting for the motion,


            5              but I would like Attorney Minora to explore


            6              that further to see if my opinion is


            7              correct.  If it's not correct then I would,


            8              you know, vote to approve the legislation.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.  That's my


           10              feeling, also.  I don't believe that we have


           11              any say on UDAG funds really.  It is the


           12              mayor's -- being the strong mayor form of


           13              government, it is the mayor is in charge of


           14              where he is dispersing UDAG and that has


           15              been stated, also, so I don't believe that


           16              whether or not we even say, no, it matters


           17              on whether or not UDAG can be given out or


           18              not, so that's where my concern is, so I


           19              think we need to look into that further to


           20              make sure even if we vote all, yes, tonight,


           21              I believe that in the long run it's going to


           22              be like, yeah, too bad, so --


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Can we table this until


           24              we find out what the --


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Let him check it out.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: -- whether there is any


            2              legality to the motion?


            3                      MS. EVANS: My concern is that I want


            4              to create legislation to prevent any future


            5              back door deals because what we have here in


            6              effect, as I said before, is nothing more


            7              than a check and a thank you note.  We have


            8              no application for that money, we have no


            9              stated use for that money and for all we


           10              know Mayor Doherty could have been out over


           11              the last seven years handing out checks for


           12              10,000, 20,000, 50,000 dollars to sources


           13              unknown for projects unknown because there


           14              is absolutely no accountability here.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, to be honest,


           16              that's what's been going on with every mayor


           17              for the past -- UDAG is the discretion of


           18              every mayor.


           19                      MS. EVANS: Right.  He can make the


           20              choice of where he would like the money to


           21              go, but I believe there has to be a system


           22              to be followed here.  Public hearings have


           23              to be conducted.  The public has to be made


           24              aware --


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: That's absolutely not






            1              true.


            2                      MS. EVANS: -- as city council.


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  I don't think so.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  It does not as far as


            5              UDAG is concerned.


            6                      MS. EVANS: According to the HUD


            7              representative that is true because he was


            8              concerned --


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: They have not found him


           10              in violation or anything so far, correct, so


           11              HUD, so HUD was concerned with this and if


           12              this was an issue with HUD they would step


           13              in and take care of this.  As far as city


           14              council, I'm not sure that no matter what we


           15              say here has any, any output, change in the


           16              long run, that's my thing, if you want to


           17              change the results.  I don't believe we can


           18              change the results.  I believe that is


           19              between the mayor and HUD.  I mean, but


           20              let's look into it.


           21                      MS. EVANS: It seems that, I think


           22              what maybe I heard or I shouldn't say I


           23              heard, but I understood as I read your


           24              memorandum, the federal government doesn't


           25              step in there because there are so many






            1              municipalities, townships, boroughs that it


            2              would be almost impossible for them to set


            3              one guidelines by which everyone would have


            4              to abide and because there are so many


            5              entities involved throughout the


            6              Commonwealth you might have that just that


            7              many types of procedures to follow, hence,


            8              it seems to be more in the hands of local


            9              government to oversee.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Absolutely not.  Being


           11              the fact that, and I will say this working


           12              at a state government job, they definitely


           13              are in constant contact with the city, they


           14              are in -- there are regulations and if the


           15              regulations are not followed the forms and


           16              the money does not come, so I don't believe


           17              that that's the case.  It's like saying, you


           18              know, that, you know, if you work for the


           19              school district, you know, if the principal


           20              leaves the site that means that nobody is


           21              doing their job.  I don't believe that


           22              that's the case, but I am just going on the


           23              record to say that.


           24                      MS. EVANS: Well, you know, again, my


           25              concern is that we have a mayor who seems to






            1              have an OECD checkbook and he can write


            2              checks out without any type of justification


            3              for it when someone doesn't even apply for


            4              the money and yet a check is given and a


            5              thank you note is produced.  I mean, there


            6              are something very wrong with that situation


            7              and I think it demands an accountability.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't disagree that


            9              there should be accountability, my thing is


           10              if it can be from us.


           11                      MS. EVANS: It can be.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Can we and are we able


           13              to do that and so that is where my issue is,


           14              so I guess we are look into it this as far


           15              as we can and see.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Well, then on


           17              Mr. McGoff's advice I will table my motion


           18              until next week and in the interim perhaps


           19              you might further --


           20                      MR. MINORA:  I'll do what I can.


           21                      MS. EVANS: -- investigate.


           22                      MR. MINORA: I think my memo kind of


           23              was skipping the law department because UDAG


           24              regulations are so old.  There is just not


           25              much out there.






            1                      MS. EVANS: We cannot find them;


            2              right?


            3                      MR. MINORA: I will reread them and


            4              see where we can go with that in mind.


            5                      MS. EVANS: Well, let's be creative


            6              in that I see that the mayor seems to be


            7              very creative circumventing the law, and I'm


            8              not suggesting that we to, but I say let's


            9              start thinking outside of the box to protect


           10              the taxpayers' money.


           11                      MR. MINORA: Let me take a look at it


           12              and I'll see what I can come up with.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, I didn't mean


           14              interrupt.


           15                      MR. MINORA: No, no, I just said I'll


           16              see what I can come up with as advice.  The


           17              regulations are so old I got to --


           18                      MS. EVANS: You can't even get a


           19              copy.


           20                      MR. MINORA: You can't get copies.


           21              East they no longer exist.  What I have is


           22              just is what I can get from --


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't want you to take


           24              on, you know, an extra thing, but perhaps if


           25              I were to contact someone at HUD and at






            1              least find out what their feelings are on


            2              the matter.


            3                      MR. MINORA: There is an individual


            4              who at HUD who I spoke with and he provided


            5              me with the information I had.  I think --


            6              did I put his name on?


            7                      MS. EVANS: Steven Stein.


            8                      MR. MINORA:  I think I put his name


            9              in the memo.


           10                      MS. GATELLI: They don't even UDAG's


           11              anymore.


           12                      MR. MINORA: I think you can get them


           13              from HUD in Philadelphia.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: There is no such thing


           15              as a UDAG anymore.  We are just getting


           16              money from UDAG repayments --


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: There is a


           18              reimbursement.


           19                      MS. GATELLI: But there are no Urban


           20              Development Action Grants anymore.  So we


           21              are only getting funded by what we gave out


           22              and people are paying back.


           23                      MS. EVANS: But, I think there has


           24              been instances even since we are been seated


           25              on council where UDAG loans have been






            1              approved by us and so that money will


            2              continue to many come into the city.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes, we have done


            4              some.


            5                      MS. EVANS: Therefore, I think we


            6              need these measures.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


            8                      MS. EVANS: Finally, I wish to


            9              comment on the state of public safety in our


           10              city during the last few months.  In light


           11              of the murders of three young men in July,


           12              the stabbing of an elderly city resident as


           13              he took his morning walk in August, the


           14              daylight robbery of a neighborhood pharmacy


           15              recently, daylight robberies occurring in


           16              our neighborhoods, specifically, Greenridge


           17              quite recently, and other serious crimes


           18              committed within city limits, I firmly


           19              believe that the number of police officers


           20              must be increased.  I am also seriously


           21              concerned by the announcement that


           22              firefighters will be cut and neighborhood


           23              fire stations closed.  The mayor is basing


           24              these decisions on economics, not the safety


           25              of our residents.  He compares us to






            1              Bethlehem, a city with less manpower which


            2              is in the process of hiring additional


            3              manpower.  He guards secret plans and


            4              envelopes without benefit of an independent


            5              public safety impact study.  If the Court


            6              rules in his favor, he may call for a study


            7              after the damage is done.


            8                      Undoubtedly, the police, fire and


            9              DPW are big ticket items in any city's


           10              budget, but these are the service


           11              departments for which we pay our taxes.  We


           12              want to live in safe, clean neighborhoods.


           13              Where will the money come from to support


           14              these services?  Cut the fat, Mayor.  Cut


           15              the consultants, job creations, management


           16              raises and legal fees.  Imagine the money


           17              that has been wasted on lawyers and Court


           18              appearances since 2002.  Those are our tax


           19              dollars at work these last six years.  We


           20              would rather increase our police officers


           21              and keep our fire stations, Mayor.  You will


           22              not win our trust by hiding your plans for


           23              our safety and you will not win our


           24              agreement with subjective safety decisions.


           25              Neither the mayor nor city council nor even






            1              the public safety director have the


            2              experience to make such decisions.  Conduct


            3              an independent study, show us the results


            4              and plan accordingly.  Save our tax dollars


            5              and settle the contracts.  It's about human


            6              lives and quality of life not dollars, not


            7              egos, not control.


            8                      Finally, I have citizens' requests


            9              and there are admittedly quite a few and I


           10              first wanted to add some of those I heard in


           11              evening:  What financial transactions have


           12              occurred between Fidelity Bank and the City


           13              of Scranton.  Repairs are requested once


           14              again at Mulberry and I believe he said it


           15              was -- Mulberry and North Washington Avenue;


           16              is that correct?  Specifically, repair the


           17              curb cuts.


           18                      Also, I would be interested in


           19              pursuing some type of accounting or perhaps


           20              audit of NCC.  I'm not going to make a


           21              motion tonight, but I am going to ask our


           22              council solicitor if -- I know you really


           23              got --


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Just to interrupt, we


           25              will be getting an audit from them.






            1                      MS. EVANS: From NCC?


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.


            3                      MS. EVANS: And when will that


            4              arrive, do you know?


            5                      MS. GATELLI: Shortly.  It's part of


            6              our city audit.  I just sent them another


            7              letter today.


            8                      MS. EVANS: Okay.


            9                      MS. GATELLI: Or yesterday --or


           10              today.  Today is the ninth.  There will be


           11              an audit from then.


           12                      MS. EVANS: Hopefully that our


           13              auditors oversee for inclusion within the


           14              independent -- -


           15                      MS. GATELLI: Um-hum.


           16                      MS. EVANS: But, I would like to see


           17              the actual audit that was conducted of NCC


           18              that they are going to --


           19                      MS. GUILTY: We can probably ask


           20              Rossi for that.  We get a copy of it.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: The information that we


           22              are requesting has to go right to Rossi.  It


           23              cannot come to us or to Stu Renda.  It has


           24              to go directly to the auditors and then they


           25              will be able to compile our audit from their






            1              information.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Right, but I want more


            3              information on them than is provided in our


            4              audit.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: Okay.  You want


            6              something --


            7                      MS. EVANS: Yeah, pass that along to


            8              Mr. Rossi?  Also, flooding at 931 Ferdinand


            9              Street, property owner experiences serious


           10              water runoff and flooding problems and four


           11              years ago Mr. Parker, the city engineer,


           12              stated that the Keyser Avenue storm drain


           13              project would alleviate the problems after


           14              he did an examination and viewed the flood


           15              waters on the property, but the project has


           16              made no difference for the residents of this


           17              block and so please forward the attached


           18              letter and copies of photos to Mr. Brazil


           19              and the city engineer.


           20                      A resident of West Parker Street to


           21              like to know the name of an unmarked street


           22              in his neighborhood which is not taken care


           23              of by the DPW.  Also, residents of that area


           24              request installation of a traffic sign,


           25              "Children at Play" and again the map and






            1              request should be attached.


            2                      1329 Academy Street, please send an


            3              inspector to examine the property.


            4              Neighbors report rodents and conditions of


            5              filth and there is a letter to be attached


            6              to that as well.


            7                      A letter to Mr. Oleski and


            8              Mr. Seitzinger, has a certified letter been


            9              sent to the property owner of 348 North


           10              Bromley Avenue?  Although the owner resides


           11              at the address, he lists in a company name.


           12              The property is overgrown and smells of


           13              urine, and please provide a response before


           14              September 22, 2008.  I realize that's a


           15              property that was in the paper this week for


           16              another issue, but hopefully now that the


           17              owner seems to be somewhat available because


           18              I understand he is not been answering the


           19              door whenever the police and the inspectors


           20              have been to that address, so I think we


           21              should get on top of that.


           22                      A letter to Mr. Hayes, what measures


           23              have been taken to correct the problems at a


           24              church located at 1525 Washburn Street?


           25              Neighbors suffered through shouting, drums






            1              electric instruments and microphones coming


            2              from this house-sized structure.  The


            3              problem was first reported over a year ago.


            4              Officers had requested when they visited the


            5              church that the congregation lower the noise


            6              level, however, that failed to occur and on


            7              Friday evenings it seems to continue even


            8              after 11:00 p.m.  I reported this issue last


            9              summer to Chief Elliott without success, so


           10              please address and provide a written


           11              response to counsel on or before


           12              September 22.


           13                      Also, fill holes in the 1600 block


           14              of Wyoming Avenue.  There are many near the


           15              southeast curb and near the middle of the


           16              intersection of Wyoming and Greenridge


           17              Street.  The residents tell me they have


           18              called the pothole hotline three times with


           19              no response and obviously nothing has been


           20              done.  Please install "Children at Play"


           21              sign in Morgan Court between Alder and


           22              Willow Street and that's a second request.


           23              I know I originally requested that back in


           24              May.


           25                      In July 2008, council reported a






            1              dangerous problem to Mr. Brazil regarding a


            2              very deep, block-long ditch across from the


            3              Marvin Dutchcap Little League.  Despite


            4              council's motion to fill the ditch with


            5              stones, Mr. Brazil refused unless the


            6              property owners would sign off on any


            7              liability against the DPW and council would


            8              sign to take responsibility for any


            9              consequences.


           10                      Since then I have again visited the


           11              property in late August.  I was informed


           12              that yet another serious motor vehicle


           13              accident had occurred a week before my


           14              second visit.  The police placed this


           15              stretch of the street on a high priority


           16              list since it poses a danger to drivers,


           17              school buses and pedestrians.  Council


           18              requests that the city engineer examine the


           19              problem and recommend a solution as soon as


           20              possible and provide a written update to


           21              council on or before September 22, 2008.


           22                      And I know I'm going on and on and


           23              on, but we have been out of session for five


           24              weeks and so I have just one last request


           25              and, you know, as a councilwoman for the






            1              last five years, and all of us up here


            2              received countless requests for help, and I


            3              recently received one that is very easily


            4              satisfied.  In honor and remembrance of the


            5              September 11, 2001, attack on the World


            6              Trade Center Mrs. Blanche Shaw has asked


            7              that I read her original poem tonight which


            8              is going to be published in a poetry


            9              anthology.


           10                      "A day of mourning has occurred in


           11              New York City and Washington, U.S.A.  Once


           12              peaceful souls in anger stirred while terror


           13              filled the day.  A tragedy of disbelief


           14              while innocence was lost to cope with


           15              agonizing grief like death upon the cross.


           16              There are no words to realize this wasteful


           17              senseless act, to comfort and to sympathize


           18              the sorrow edged in black.  Dear God, please


           19              wrap your loving arms around each victim as


           20              you welcome them there.  Remember their


           21              loved ones with undying hopes.  Keep them


           22              safe in your loving care.  Old Glory now


           23              more proudly waives, determination will


           24              prevail.  God bless the good old U.S.A. to


           25              America we hail."






            1                      And again, that is in honor of the


            2              remembrance of September 11.  However, I


            3              would request, I know I may get people


            4              sending in poetry now for every holiday and


            5              occasion and, you know, I really can't


            6              become -- well, I am an English teacher, but


            7              I really don't believe we want to turn the


            8              council meetings in poetry readings, so that


            9              was my one and only and thank you very much,


           10              Blanche, for your excellent poem.  That's


           11              it.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  You can read poems and


           13              I'll do CPR, how about that?


           14                      MS. EVANS: All right.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: All right.  Before I


           16              start I would just like to thank the many,


           17              many constituents and my colleagues and the


           18              staff of city council for being so kind


           19              during my recent hospitalization.  I'm sure


           20              many of you heard rumors of my illness.  I


           21              did have pancreatitis and I was quite ill,


           22              but I'm on the road to recovery and I want


           23              to thank you all for your cards and your


           24              prayers.


           25                      The next thing I want to address is






            1              I'm sure that many of you saw an article in


            2              the paper several weeks ago about a parade


            3              that was held in South Scranton.  I was in


            4              New York City at the time and I received a


            5              call on my cell phone from some of my


            6              friends that live along Pittston Avenue.


            7              Apparently there was a parade with the


            8              Latino community of which I have no


            9              objection for them to have a parade, they


           10              have always had it downtown.  For some


           11              reason they had it in South Scranton.  It


           12              started on the top of Pittston Avenue and


           13              ended up on Birch Street.  It became quite


           14              rowdy.  I have pictures here, if anyone


           15              would care to see them, where they were drag


           16              racing in the streets, drinking beer in the


           17              streets, beer in the strollers, and I


           18              contacted the mayor, the showmobile was


           19              there so apparently someone gave them


           20              permission to be there, although, when I


           21              called to inquire no one would admit that


           22              they gave them permission.  I informed the


           23              mayor that the neighbors were very concerned


           24              and this was unacceptable behavior in a


           25              neighborhood and that we really would prefer






            1              not to have any parades in the neighborhood,


            2              they belong in the downtown like the St.


            3              Patrick's Day parade and the Veterans'


            4              parade, so he has assured me that there will


            5              not be any parades in the neighborhoods from


            6              this day forward, but I would like Mrs.


            7              Garvey to please send a letter reiterating,


            8              and my colleagues would agree that they


            9              would not want this ion their neighborhood


           10              either.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Absolutely.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: There is a time and


           13              place and this wasn't the time or the place


           14              and the behavior was reprehensible and it


           15              will not be tolerated again.


           16                      The Community Justice Program in


           17              South Scranton was very successful this


           18              summer, and I have a few people that I would


           19              like to commend for their cooperation and


           20              their hard work.  Officer Jamie Smith and


           21              Paul Reed.  Inspectors Don McKeean, Todd


           22              Cortez and Kathy Fowler and Jennifer


           23              McCambridge from the District Attorney's


           24              Office, Susan Andres and Steve Cochis who


           25              were there every week and we did have a






            1              very, very successful program.  As I stated


            2              before, anyone that would wish to start a


            3              community justice program there is one in


            4              the Hill, and one in South Scranton if


            5              anyone else would like to start one they can


            6              call council and Kay will forward them to me


            7              and I will help them to get started.  It is


            8              an excellent way to fight blight in your


            9              neighborhood.


           10                      The next thing I have is I got a


           11              complaint on a house and when I found out


           12              who the owner was it was one of the


           13              properties that Mr. Seitzinger was going to


           14              tear down and the gentleman had brought a


           15              condemned property, I believe that his name


           16              is David Keller, and there were a whole list


           17              of properties that he owned in the City of


           18              Scranton and in other outlying communities.


           19              Apparently, he buys condemned properties and


           20              then doesn't fix them up, so I would like


           21              Mr. Seitzinger to please check into 1015 Mt.


           22              Vernon Avenue, there are skunks and cats


           23              living in there.  There is a woman that goes


           24              and feeds the cats that live inside of that


           25              home.  It's empty expect for cats, and also






            1              for 3244 Pittston Avenue.  It was supposed


            2              to be torn down last summer, Mr. Keller


            3              bought it from the county and he hasn't


            4              really fixed it up until now, so I would


            5              like Mr. Seitzinger to send letters to


            6              Mr. Keller that he is not fulfilling his


            7              obligations and I would like to see these


            8              properties torn down as soon as possible.


            9                   As far as people saying that we took a


           10              vacation and, you know, we should give the


           11              money back, I would just like to state for


           12              the record that last year I give back $625


           13              of my salary from city council as a good


           14              faith offering because I asked the mayor for


           15              his cabinet to give 5 percent back, I also


           16              gave it back, and all of us up here work


           17              very hard.  This minute part of our life on


           18              TV for three hours just isn't an example of


           19              what we do and I know we all do it.  We get


           20              e-mails every day, phone calls that we have


           21              to answer, places that we go to look at, so


           22              to say that we just get paid for a meeting


           23              is just not fair to say about any of us.  We


           24              all work very hard and I think we do earn


           25              the money that we get.






            1                      The fire pit ordinance, I also got a


            2              complaint about someone that their neighbor


            3              has a fire pit and they are getting the


            4              smoke onto their porch.  I believe, Kay,


            5              that we passed that several months ago.  I


            6              don't think it was in 2002, I think it was


            7              this year that we did something on fire


            8              pits, but if you would pull that ordinance


            9              for us, I know it concerned fire pits and


           10              they are very popular now.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  I love my fire pit.


           12                      MS. EVANS: I don't know if we had an


           13              ordinance, but I had raised that issue


           14              because I had received a complaint from an


           15              individual whose neighbor was burning logs


           16              in the fire pit regularly, you know, almost


           17              nightly.


           18                      MS. GATELLI: Especially now, it's


           19              chilly.


           20                      MS. EVANS: And that's why I wanted


           21              to know what our ordinance stated, but I


           22              think that was the only discussion of it.


           23                      MS. GATELLI: We did something,


           24              didn't we?


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Wood burners, not






            1              fire pits.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Wood burners.


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, pull that one


            4              anyway and we'll see what it entails.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Pull them all.


            6                      MS. GATELLI: And then we'll have to


            7              make a decision.  Maybe we will have to ban


            8              them or something if they are really causing


            9              a problem.  I know the gentleman that called


           10              me they had to shut all of the windows, too,


           11              because the houses are so close that all of


           12              the smoke goes into his house, so I think we


           13              do need to investigate that.


           14                      One other question before I get into


           15              the audit, I had some questions from people


           16              in the flood area where the work has already


           17              been done and they are being asked to


           18              provide flood insurance.  I don't know if


           19              you can do this, Amil, or if we need to send


           20              to Donny King, but I need to find out do


           21              people that live in the flood zone where


           22              it's been repaired still have to get flood


           23              insurance because I think when it's repaired


           24              it's not a flood zone anymore because there


           25              is levies, so why are they being asked to






            1              provide flood insurance?  So, I need that


            2              answered.  I think Donny King might know


            3              that, Kay.


            4                      Now, the audit, the outstanding


            5              items are the Single Tax Office and NCC and


            6              the Parking Authority audit.  Letters were


            7              sent out today to NCC, Single Tax Office and


            8              the Parking Authority.  They are the only


            9              three outstanding items.  The Parking


           10              Authority has Merkle, McGrail and Quinn and


           11              they have had an overload at their office


           12              and they said they will have it ready in two


           13              weeks.  The other two people the letter just


           14              went out and I haven't heard a response.  As


           15              I get responses I will let you know.


           16                      Also, I sent letters in May and I


           17              sent letters in July, so I have sent quite a


           18              few letters requesting information and as I


           19              get the information I will present them to


           20              you, and that's all I have.  Thank you.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, welcome back, we


           23              haven't missed a beat, have we?  People who


           24              have been off for a long time and doing


           25              nothing for the last few weeks it looks like






            1              we've actually had our hands full.  I want


            2              to talk about the fire pit for a minute, I


            3              enjoy mine immensely, but I think it's the


            4              wood.  When you get into wood.  I have a


            5              Duralog, and it's very cute and fun, it


            6              doesn't draw any smoke, so I think we have


            7              to further look into, and it's not all about


            8              me, but other people like their Duralogs,


            9              also.


           10                      I'm talking about the Connell


           11              Building.  I am going to give you a little


           12              bit of history about this building and what


           13              they are going to be doing.  They are


           14              applying for a grant.  Again, I will say


           15              every week up here if I have to, yes, apply


           16              for every grant money out there.  I want it


           17              all.  I want as much money as we can get


           18              grantwise.  I want it.  I don't want Philly


           19              to get it, I don't want Pittsburgh to get


           20              it, I don't want Allentown to get it.  I


           21              want all of the grant money for Scranton, so


           22              let's get that straight.  I will vote on


           23              everything that people apply for to get


           24              money from the state so that we can better


           25              our city.  It does nothing but benefit the






            1              taxpayers.  If we don't apply, if we don't


            2              want it, someone else is going to get it, so


            3              as long as it's out there I'm definitely


            4              supporting us having as much as we can get.


            5              Okay.  The accountability, they are going to


            6              gut and rehab the whole entire building.


            7              I'm going to read you some of the backup


            8              that we get which I don't do and I probably


            9              should do from now on so that you can get a


           10              little bit more understanding of what these


           11              projects consist of.


           12                      This building, obviously, is an


           13              extremely old building.  They dated it from


           14              the 19th to the 20th century.  The Connell


           15              building they are going to -- it's going to


           16              consist of loft apartments, office space and


           17              also retail space.  Actually, the developers


           18              have spent a lot of time making sure that


           19              not only will they keep the historical


           20              nature of the building, but put it in the


           21              back up that not it will be historical in,


           22              nature if they can't fix it they will


           23              replace it with the existing new materials


           24              that look exactly like replicas of the old


           25              which is wonderful.  Electrical, plumbing,






            1              fire protection, all that will be done.


            2              There is going to be actually four smaller


            3              spaces on the first floor and one large


            4              space for retail and the top floors will be


            5              one bath, one bedroom, one bathroom units


            6              and also two bedroom and two bathroom units.


            7              Air conditioning, you know, the whole ball


            8              of whacks.  This is what we want for


            9              downtown.  We always talk about the walkable


           10              community, this building now is absolutely


           11              beautiful and to see it restored will be a


           12              wonderful, wonderful asset for us.


           13                      Also, bringing jobs for the people


           14              who will be doing the work which is amazing.


           15              All of the electrical people, all of the


           16              people who will be doing demolition and all


           17              of the guys who will be rebuilding all of


           18              the masonry work.  This is what keeps us


           19              going in the city right now and that is also


           20              a gift, so when we do get these gifts from


           21              the state and people do apply for these


           22              wonderful grants it also generates a lot of


           23              work for the people.  Right now people are


           24              criticizing the 500 block of Lackawanna


           25              Avenue, but there are tons of people working






            1              there every single day and to me that brings


            2              nothing but a smile on my face when I'm


            3              going to work myself.


            4                      So, yes, I am very much in favor of


            5              the Connell building and the grants that


            6              they are applying for and the only reason


            7              that this has come before us is so that we


            8              can say, yes, you are allowed to apply for


            9              the grant.  We are not authorizing the


           10              funding for them, we are actually just


           11              saying, yes, apply for the grant.


           12                      As far as our the big to-do about us


           13              taking our vacation, and I have to say this


           14              with Judy, too, being I actually find it


           15              almost amusing because I wish to God this


           16              job just consisted of coming here for three


           17              hours every week.  That would be nothing but


           18              wonderful for all of us.  This is only to


           19              pass legislation as far as I'm concerned.


           20              That is why we are here.  Obviously, to hear


           21              what the public has to say, but as far as


           22              I'm concerned this is not even close to what


           23              this job consists of.  We are here to do the


           24              legal work of our job, the rest of the week


           25              we do what is the constituent part which is






            1              to make sure that the people are being heard


            2              and what they need is taken care of and just


            3              from you hearing Mrs. Evans read her list


            4              every week, well, the rest of us don't


            5              always read lists as we make our phone calls


            6              and do what we have to do, but we are all


            7              doing the same amount of work and it is a


            8              lot of work.


            9                      As far as I'm concerned, I actually


           10              find it funny if I got paid by week, by hour


           11              for what I did, I can't even imagine the


           12              $12,500 I make a year is not even close for


           13              a part-time job as Mr. Jackowitz said.  I


           14              wish to God it was part-time, but that is it


           15              all I have.  And, obviously, we are back in


           16              action in our meetings now and it does not


           17              mean that the last five weeks we haven't


           18              seen all of you out there and done


           19              everything you have asked we have still been


           20              working, and that is all I have.


           21                      Oh, and also I do want to say, I'm


           22              still living in the City of Scranton.  For


           23              those who decided that I was moving, I


           24              wasn't sure where I was going, I wish they


           25              had sent me an address or maybe a new home,






            1              but, yes, I did move into the City of


            2              Scranton from the City of Scranton so I


            3              guess you can call me, you know, a new -- I


            4              guess I'm newly located again.  But, yes I'm


            5              still living here and I love where I live.


            6              Thank you.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm going to read


            8              something that I just got, but I'm going to


            9              comment to on what Mrs. Gatelli said and


           10              Mrs. Fanucci said.  I know most people don't


           11              want to hear it, but if they were paying us


           12              by the hour we would make way below the


           13              minimum wage.  I mean, I don't know about


           14              the rest of them, I got -- every once in


           15              awhile, ask Kay, my mailbox is so full it


           16              won't accept anymore, so this is an


           17              important part of the meeting, but we -- I


           18              think I did more in the last five weeks then


           19              I did when we were in session, and one of


           20              the things there was a gentleman that had


           21              come here several weeks ago about, I call it


           22              Townhouse, what is it called now, Village


           23              Park, I call it Townhouse, but anyway, about


           24              the dumpster lids and I called down there


           25              and Kerry Iacavazzi sent me this letter from






            1              the sanitation company, I'm not going to say


            2              their name, I don't know if that's proper,


            3              but it says, "This letter is to inform you


            4              that the lids on the 14 dumpsters will be


            5              replaced at the locations either Friday,


            6              9-5-08 or Monday 9-8-08."


            7                      I have not gone down there


            8              personally to see if that has been done, but


            9              I will check on it.  So, that gentleman he


           10              paid me a visit at my school on our


           11              vacation, all right?  So we are working on


           12              our vacation, and that's fine.  We don't


           13              expect to sit around for five weeks and do


           14              nothing.


           15                      I also during our vacation talked to


           16              Brian Swanson.  I had sent him a couple of


           17              letters and I didn't get any response, so I


           18              called him.  I'm not happy about the answer,


           19              and I don't think anybody else is going to


           20              be happy about the answer, this is about the


           21              Crisp Avenue bridge and I'll read it to you


           22              word for word.  "We are corresponding


           23              regarding the scheduled for replacement of


           24              the Crisp Avenue Bridge.  In November of


           25              2007, the city bid and subsequently awarded






            1              a contract to design and permit the


            2              replacement of the Crisp Avenue culvert


            3              damaged by the 2006 flooding.  The resultant


            4              construction project was to be completed by


            5              August 23, 2008, and approximately eight


            6              months start to finish schedule.


            7                      During the course of the design and


            8              replacement of structure, the city's design


            9              consultant discovered discrepancies between


           10              the existing site conditions and the FEMA


           11              flood study for Linde Creek.  The


           12              Pennsylvania Department of Environmental


           13              Protection indicated that the general permit


           14              originally contemplated for this project may


           15              not be issued because the regulatory flood


           16              elevations cannot be met.


           17                      The Pennsylvania Department of


           18              Environmental Protection current position


           19              requires that the difference with the FEMA


           20              study and the existing conditions be


           21              reconciled prior to permitting the


           22              replacement of.  They are also requesting a


           23              more complex permit be obtained.


           24                      Satisfying the Pennsylvania


           25              Department of Environmental Protection's






            1              requirements necessitates a much longer


            2              permit time frame than that which was


            3              originally contemplated.  As the


            4              Pennsylvania, Emergency Management Agency


            5              had a hard deadline of August 23 with no


            6              permit from the Pennsylvania Department of


            7              Environmental Protection, we ask for a


            8              one-year extension to complete the project.


            9                      Further funding is a potential issue


           10              due to the change in the permitting scope,


           11              both PEMA and the Pennsylvania Department of


           12              Environmental Protection are exploring


           13              supplementing the existing project fund."


           14                      So, we are looking probably at least


           15              another year for that bridge and I know that


           16              doesn't make anybody happy, myself included.


           17              I use that to go to my mother's house and


           18              now I can't and now there is -- I didn't


           19              realize there was a little bit of a funding


           20              issue, so I'll follow-up on that, but that's


           21              where we stand.  I know that's not what


           22              anybody wanted to hear, but that's where we


           23              stand.


           24                      Mrs. Evans brought up about Washburn


           25              Street, they had sent me a letter a long






            1              time ago and I forwarded it to Mr. Wallace,


            2              I don't know what he has found there yet


            3              about that church on Washburn Street.


            4                   Mrs. Gatelli brought up about the


            5              community justice, I was contacted by people


            6              from Tripp Park area, they are having some


            7              problems back there, and the cops are doing


            8              the best they could to try and alleviate the


            9              problems, but they are going to be a forming


           10              a group back there.  They have been in touch


           11              Lenny DeMecca, I want to thank Lenny, and I


           12              believe they contacted him in the morning


           13              and before the morning was over, maybe early


           14              afternoon, he went up and met with one or


           15              two of the representative, so they are going


           16              to be forming something, I think that's a


           17              good idea for that area and any area.


           18                      My man Chrissy didn't speak this


           19              evening, but every time I take him home his


           20              my ride --


           21                      MS. GATELLI:  He is afraid to speak.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Is he?


           23                      MS. GATELLI: Yeah, because he is a


           24              turncoat.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: What did he do?






            1                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, Chrissy.  What did


            2              you do, Chrissy?


            3                      MS. EVANS: Welcome aboard, Chris.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  What did you do,


            5              Chrissy, you better move over there.


            6                      MS. EVANS: That's okay, you can move


            7              in with us.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  You will be walking


            9              home, Buddy.  But, anyway --


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  I guess you bleed red


           11              now, Chrissy, instead of blue.  Come on now,


           12              we love you.


           13                      MS. EVANS: Come on, Chris.


           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Come on and give us a


           15              kiss.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Anyway, every time


           17              on the way home he mentions to me about the


           18              Linden Street bridge on Euclid Avenue and


           19              the lights are on, they have been on for the


           20              longest time.  I don't know if we sent them


           21              a letter or not, I know we were supposed to


           22              go on that website, right, Kay?  So, you can


           23              direct me on how to do that when I come in


           24              next time and I will do that because -- I'm


           25              getting a look from Kay over there.






            1                   Somebody talked about the health care


            2              costs.  Kay, can we ask Stu Renda are they


            3              doing anything to try to do something to


            4              contain the health care costs or reduce them


            5              for the city?  I know that's a big issue.


            6                   Somebody had spoke about the bed and


            7              breakfast on Jefferson Avenue, I like that.


            8              I think it looks really nice.  I think


            9              they -- I know we give them a loan there and


           10              I was happy to do that, I haven't been


           11              inside, but it looks really nice from the


           12              outside and people from out of town bringing


           13              their children into the University of


           14              Scranton and they see that I think that's an


           15              asset and I would like to commend those


           16              people that are doing that project.


           17                      Lastly, ECTV, I had asked Mark and I


           18              believe it was to, you know, at least three


           19              showings, I got to ask you now, Mark, could


           20              you show it more than three times.  I have


           21              gotten many, many requests for that over


           22              this summer and one thing that I


           23              recommended, and I wish they had listened to


           24              was that while the changeover was taking


           25              place that maybe they would let Scranton






            1              Today run parallel with ECTV until they got


            2              up in a running in a fashion that everybody


            3              was accustomed to if not better.  That


            4              hasn't happened and, consequently, here we


            5              are with no programming.  Many of the boards


            6              and commissions not being shown as far as I


            7              can tell and here with we are not live, and


            8              believe it or not there are many people that


            9              are upset that we are not live.


           10                      MS. EVANS: Yes, there are.


           11                      MS. GATELLI:  I'd like to ask you a


           12              question, what is the big deal about being


           13              live?  No other meeting in the city, the


           14              county, the school district, nobody is live.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I asked that.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  What is that?  What is


           17              that live thing?


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Because I don't get


           19              to see them live, obviously, because I am


           20              here.  Some of the people, I asked that


           21              question more than one time because I'm


           22              getting many people tell me about it, and


           23              most of them are senior citizens, believe it


           24              or not.  They say they don't like reading


           25              the Times version of what happened here the






            1              next morning.  They like to see it live


            2              while it happens.  Some of them said that


            3              they see it while it's live and maybe would


            4              even come down then to comment on things.


            5              Those are some of the reasons they gave me.


            6                      MS. GATELLI: They've got a real


            7              problem then.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, that's the


            9              answer they gave me, but I just, you know,


           10              if you are going to -- in private practice


           11              if you are going into a new endeavor, maybe


           12              if you are changing over your computer


           13              system you usually run it parallel to


           14              something else until you know that system is


           15              going to work and we didn't to that here and


           16              I think it was a big mistake.  I'll call him


           17              because he gave me his number, but I don't


           18              know, do they anticipate when this funding


           19              is going to come through or when they are


           20              going to be able to --  is the live feed as


           21              a result of no funding?  I think that's two


           22              different issues.  I think the live feed is


           23              something separate from the funding.  Am I


           24              correct in that, Kay, or don't you know?


           25                      MS. GARVEY: When I spoke to him






            1              today he said that they didn't receive the


            2              money yet, therefore, they couldn't be live.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay.  So in the


            4              past I thought they were having trouble --


            5                      MS. GARVEY: They don't have the


            6              equipment in order to run it live.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  To accept the live


            8              feed.  So I guess we need to ask OECD when


            9              their money is going to come through.  But,


           10              anyway, for future if I think if we are


           11              going to make changes I think if you are


           12              going to change the total system you need to


           13              make sure that the new one is up and running


           14              before you implement or do away with the old


           15              one, and that's all I have.  Thank you.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, I, too,


           17              received -- well, and still do, many, many,


           18              many complaints about the lack of a live


           19              meeting, but the reason that I get is that


           20              they were used to watching it at a certain


           21              time and day for a long, long time and they


           22              recognize, you know, that it would change


           23              but, whenever they are trying to watch a


           24              replay they were having trouble finding the


           25              replay or they would tune in at a certain






            1              time for a replay that had been scheduled


            2              and it wasn't actually starting until a


            3              later time for whatever reason and then in


            4              the mean time they had waited so long to see


            5              the program again they gave up, turned the


            6              station and then they missed the meeting


            7              entirely because it wasn't being shown


            8              frequently.


            9                      So, they are concerned, and it's to


           10              be admired, that he want to keep abreast of


           11              their government and how their money is


           12              being spent and what the issues are facing


           13              all of us, so I think, you know, we should


           14              do our best to help provide that.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  I agree with that in a


           16              sense, but if you look at your tax bill the


           17              largest taxing body is the school district


           18              where Mrs. Evans and I work by the way, the


           19              second is the county and the third is the


           20              city, and I just find it ludicrous that they


           21              want to see the city and they don't want to


           22              see the school district and the county where


           23              all their tax money goes.


           24                      MS. EVANS: Well, I think the city is


           25              providing the services.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, the city does


            2              it live.  They got used to seeing us live


            3              and now they --


            4                      MS. GATELLI: I think it's the


            5              entertainment of it.  That's what I think.


            6              I think that's part of it.  It's really not


            7              the business because they don't really care


            8              about the business or they would be watching


            9              the other two taxing bodies where the bulk


           10              of their taxes go.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Well, actually a lot of


           12              them say they have and they had trouble,


           13              they can't find those meetings either.  They


           14              were saying, "I can't see the county


           15              commissioners, I always watched them.  I


           16              can't find city council, you know, I'm


           17              really having problems and I'm very upset


           18              about it because, you know, I have been


           19              watching for years and years."


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Just one last thing,


           21              I hope that when they carry, whatever


           22              equipment they are going to get, I tried to


           23              watch the county commissioners if I could,


           24              but when they were shooting the camera angle


           25              there is -- they don't show the person






            1              that's talking sometimes and it's just --


            2              you know, before when they had the cameras


            3              up here in council I know, the remote was on


            4              top and moving back forth, they had one


            5              aiming at the speaker and they had


            6              volunteers up in the balcony there that if


            7              someone was speaking at the podium and say


            8              Mr. McGoff was responding to them they could


            9              just switch that over and it just makes for


           10              better viewing I believe, and I hope that


           11              they are going to have that type of


           12              equipment whenever they do get up and


           13              running, and I'll put that rest right now.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I think it's time that


           15              we get to the actual agenda items.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Thanks, Mr. McGoff.


           17              Kay?  5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE -




           19              ACCOUNT NO. 02.229589 ENTITLED "DCNR








           23              AND NATURAL RESOURCES (DCNR) FOR SWIMMING


           24              POOL IMPROVEMENTS IN CITY OF SCRANTON.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll






            1              entertain a motion that item 5-B be


            2              introduced into it's proper committee.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All


            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           12              ayes have it and so moved.


           13                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -






           16              THE YEAR 2009 THE FIRST-YEAR REVISION AN


           17              EXTENSION OF THE 2008 FIVE-YEAR PLAN.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


           20              introduced into it's proper committee.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.  Perhaps because


           25              I'm a teacher I expect people to follow






            1              directions, and specifically I expect the


            2              administration to follow the directions


            3              contained in the Home Rule Charter regarding


            4              the capital budget and each year I am forced


            5              to vote, no, to the mayor's capital budget


            6              because each year the mayor fails to follow


            7              directions, so once again there is no


            8              supporting evidence as to the necessity for


            9              all improvements, there are no time


           10              schedules for his projects, and no estimated


           11              annual costs of operating and maintaining


           12              the facilities to be constructed, and this


           13              information applies to capital improvements


           14              still pending or in process according to


           15              Section 904 of the Home Rule Charter.  So, I


           16              will be voting, no.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else the


           18              question?  All those in favor of


           19              introduction signify by saying aye.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           21                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?


           23                      MS. EVANS: No.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so






            1              moved.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: We need two motions.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Oh, I'm sorry.  I'd like


            4              to make a motion to schedule a public


            5              hearing on Item 5-C for 9-23-08, at


            6              6:15 p.m.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            9              in favor?


           10                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           15              ayes have it and so moved.  And a second


           16              motion to place an ad for the summary of the


           17              capital budget.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           20              in favor signify by saying aye.


           21                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The






            1              ayes have it and so moved.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -




            4              SEALED BID OR AUCTION OF THREE PARCELS OF




            6              RIVER FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT, AS MORE




            8                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            9              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be


           10              introduced into it's proper committee.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.




           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           15              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           21              ayes have it and so moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -






           25              ("HARB") AND APPROVING ISSUANCE OF THE








            2              INC., 825 SCRANTON CARBONDALE HIGHWAY,


            3              DICKSON CITY, PENNSYLVANIA, FOR THE






            6              LIGHTING, MOUNTED ON THE REAR FACADE OF THE


            7              RADISSON-LACKAWANNA STATION HOTEL, 700


            8              LACKAWANNA AVENUE, SCRANTON, PA.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           10              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be


           11              introduced it's proper committee.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           15              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           21              ayes have it and so moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F.  FOR INTRODUCTION -






           25              ("HARB") AND APPROVING ISSUANCE OF THE








            2              INC., 825 SCRANTON CARBONDALE HIGHWAY,


            3              DICKSON CITY, PENNSYLVANIA, FOR THE






            6              LIGHTING, MOUNTED ON THE REAR FACADE OF THE


            7              RADISSON-LACKAWANNA STATION HOTEL, 700


            8              LACKAWANNA AVENUE, SCRANTON, PA.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           10              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be


           11              introduced into it's proper committee.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           15              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           21              ayes have it and so moved.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           23              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR ANT




           25              SCRANTON TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO AN






            1              AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMONWEALTH OF




            3              ("PENNDOT") TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATION IN ITS




            5              MORE EFFICIENT USE OF STATE AND LOCAL


            6              GOVERNMENT FUNDS AND EQUIPMENT.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            8              entertain a motion that Item 5-G be


            9              introduced into it's proper committee.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           13              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           19              ayes have it and so moved.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 5-H. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           21              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND






           24              U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN












            3              THE GRANT FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR A PROJECT


            4              TO BE NAMED "HARRIET BEECHER STOWE".


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            6              entertain a motion that Item 5-H be


            7              introduced into it's proper committee.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           11              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           12                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           17              ayes have it and so moved.


           18                      MS. GARVEY: 5-I. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           19              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR ANT




           21              FOR AND EXECUTE A GRANT FRO HOUSING AND








           25              AND IF THE APPLICATION IS SUCCESSFUL TO






            1              COORDINATE THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS FOR


            2              THE PROJECT TO BE NAMED AS THE "CONNELL


            3              BUILDING" WITH "JEFFERSON-WERNER, LLC", THE


            4              DEVELOPER, OR ITS DESIGNEE.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            6              entertain a motion that Item 5-I be


            7              introduced into it's proper committee.


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  On question, I'm


           12              going to vote to introduce this.  I, too, am


           13              all for whatever money we can get from the


           14              state and federal government, but I want to


           15              dig into this a little bit deeper before I


           16              make my final decision.


           17                      MS. EVANS: I just wanted to ask some


           18              questions and perhaps someone has the


           19              answer, and if we don't if we could please


           20              have it prior to next week's meeting.  I


           21              recall if we go back a few years I believe


           22              it was Mr. Wolfington who was purchasing the


           23              Connell building, and at the time I believe


           24              there were back taxes due on that property.


           25              So, number one, I wanted to know if all of






            1              the taxes have been brought current; and,


            2              number two, he had also come before council


            3              at the time to discuss a state program, I'm


            4              going to guess at this, this could be


            5              totally wrong, but it might have been called


            6              TIFF, but it was a program whereby taxes


            7              would be lowered, let us say, for that


            8              business for a period of maybe 10, 15 or


            9              20 years they wouldn't, in other words, they


           10              would not be a KOZ where they would pay no


           11              taxes, but it was a different type of a


           12              program, but I know that Mr. Wolfington had


           13              wanted the city, the school district and the


           14              county to consider that at the time, so my


           15              second question is the owner interested in


           16              or asking for that TIFF program.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't think, but I'll


           18              check.


           19                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those


           21              in favor of introduction signify by saying


           22              aye.


           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            3              ayes have it and so moved.


            4                      MS. GARVEY: 5-J. FOR INTRODUCTION -


            5              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND




            7              FOR AND EXECUTE A GRANT APPLICATION FOR




            9              (MUFFI) IN THE AMOUNT OF ONE MILLION


           10              $1,000,000.00 DOLLARS THROUGH THE








           14              THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS WITH


           15              "JEFFERSON-WERNER, LLC", THE DEVELOPER, OR


           16              ITS DESIGNEE FOR THE PROJECT NAMED AS "THE


           17              CONNELL BUILDING."


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I will


           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-J be


           20              introduced into it's proper committee.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           24              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            5              ayes have it and so moved.


            6                      MS. GARVEY: 5-K.  FOR INTRODUCTION -


            7              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF












           13              STREET TO IMPROVE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC FOR




           15              STREET.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           17              entertain a motion that Item 5-K be


           18              introduced into it's proper committee.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


           22                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, I have several


           23              questions.  I happen to agree with Mrs.


           24              Schumacher on this, we have been waiting a


           25              long time for all of Moosic Street to be






            1              done, the downtown hasn't been done, the


            2              light at the mini-mart isn't there and yet


            3              we are going to do all this for one


            4              business.  I just don't get it.  You know, I


            5              want some answers I want to know what's


            6              going on in that commercial building.  It


            7              was supposed to be a restaurant.  I don't


            8              know if the restaurant needs the whole


            9              traffic signal changed.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: I, too --


           11                      MS. GATELLI:  That's a crucial


           12              intersection through South Scranton.


           13                      MS. EVANS: Is it for the


           14              construction?


           15                      MS. GATELLI: No, it's to change the


           16              signal.


           17                      MS. EVANS: While the construction is


           18              ongoing?


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: It says to improve flow


           20              of traffic.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Maybe they are going


           22              to change the timing on the signals, that's


           23              what they are looking to do.


           24                      MS. GATELLI: Well, I'd like to have


           25              a little more information.






            1                      MS. EVANS: Because the project is


            2              ongoing?


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  I think it's for the


            4              completed project.  I, too, have a major


            5              question --


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  I just don't


            7              understand it.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: The major question I


            9              have was is also --


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  They keep calling it a


           11              commercial project.  Was is it, I thought it


           12              was a restaurant, and there is LaTrattoria


           13              there, they never the signal for La


           14              Trattoria.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: We need some answers.


           16                      MS. GATELLI: You know, I just don't


           17              understand the necessity for it.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I think what they


           19              are anticipating is extra traffic going in


           20              and out of there.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: What traffic?  The


           22              restaurant is there, the Krispe Kreme is


           23              there, I mean, I don't understand why


           24              this --


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: At this point I would






            1              just like to see some windows.  I mean, you


            2              know, let's not worry about the traffic


            3              light, let's see some of the project.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: I want to know what


            5              that project is.  Is it a restaurant and why


            6              do they have to change the traffic signal.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: I think we should also


            9              find out the priority, if there is a


           10              priority list for traffic signals anywhere


           11              in the city.  My major concern was the at


           12              Meadow Avenue and River Street.


           13                      MS. EVANS: I agree.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I know we have talked


           15              about that --


           16                      MS. EVANS: For years.  For years


           17              this is ongoing.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: And nothing has been


           19              done with anything in there, and I think


           20              that has a greater priority than this.


           21                      MS. GATELLI:  If you go up Moosic


           22              Street and you try to make a left on


           23              Harrison you will get killed.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  See, what happens


           25              now is I'm reading this here as we are






            1              speaking, I guess PennDOT already did the


            2              traffic study, you can't go back and ask


            3              them to stop I guess, but their answer is to


            4              improve the flow of traffic through that


            5              intersection, that's the answer.


            6                      MS. EVANS: It doesn't seem to make


            7              sense.


            8                      MS. GATELLI: They did the traffic


            9              study on Moosic Street.  So why is being


           10              done just for Pisano commercial projects?


           11              Why isn't the one on Meadow and Harrison


           12              being done?


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Could we possibly -- I


           14              would like to, personally I would like to


           15              table 5-K and 5-L until there are some


           16              answers as to the nature of the property and


           17              also the priority of this for other traffic


           18              signals.


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll second that.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           21              in favor signify by saying aye.


           22                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            2              ayes have it and so moved.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: 5-K and 5-L are tabled.


            4              5-M. FOR INTRODUCTION - A RESOLUTION -








            8              THE LAW FIRM OF HOURIGAN, KLUGER AND QUINN,


            9              P.C. FOR LABOR AND EMPLOYMENT LEGAL


           10              SERVICES.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


           12              entertain a motion that 5-M be introduced in


           13              it's proper committee.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           17                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  You know, if the


           18              Scranton School District and the Scranton


           19              Federation of Teachers can settle a contract


           20              why can't the mayor and the police and the


           21              firefighters?  The teachers in the school


           22              district negotiated for I think a little


           23              over a year, maybe a year and a half, and


           24              they worked out in one night and 11th hour


           25              agreement and yet the mayor for seven years






            1              can't settle two contracts with some of the


            2              most valuable assets this city has.  So, it


            3              just -- I said it before, imagine how much


            4              of your tax dollars are going toward lawyers


            5              and legal feels over the last seven years?


            6              You know, we have seven years worth of


            7              arbitrations, depositions, hearings, court


            8              battles, and that money should have been


            9              used to pay the workers, so, you know, in


           10              summary, I would just say that Mayor Doherty


           11              should be ashamed of himself that he can't


           12              negotiate in good faith with our city


           13              unions.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the


           15              question?  All those in favor of


           16              introduction signify by saying aye.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?


           21                      MS. EVANS: No.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


           23              moved.


           24                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO


           25              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  NO






            1              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: I'd like to have a


            3              motion to adjourn.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  See you next


            7              week.














































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            5        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            6   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            7   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            8   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            9   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


           10   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

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