1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday, July 22, 2008






           10                        LOCATION:


           11                    Council Chambers


           12                 Scranton City Hall


           13              340 North Washington Avenue


           14                Scranton, Pennsylvania











































                MS. JANET E. EVANS



           10   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           13   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           16   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR
























            1   (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of reflection


            2   observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.


           14                      MS. GARVEY: 3-A. CONTROLLER'S REPORT


           15              FOR THE MONTH ENDING JUNE 30, 2008.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           17              If not, received and filed.


           18                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. MINUTES OF THE




           20              24, 2008.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any commence?


           22              If not, received filed.


           23                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           24              Order.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Any announcements?  N.






            1                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.


            2                      MS. EVANS: As Mr. McGoff said,


            3              please remember in your prayers those who


            4              have died, particularly, Justin Berios,


            5              Leslie Collier, and Dustin Heinz, the


            6              victims of last week's tragedy in South Side


            7              and their families.  The Scranton Police


            8              Department is sponsoring it's Sixth Annual


            9              National Night Out on August 5, 2008, at the


           10              Tripp Park Complex on Dorothy Street from 6


           11              to 10 p.m.  National Night Out is a crime


           12              prevention event which promotes police


           13              community partnerships.  I hope to see you


           14              there, but if you are unable to attend


           15              residents are asked to lock their doors,


           16              turn on outside lights and spend the evening


           17              outside with neighbors and police as


           18              hopefully millions of Americans will be


           19              doing across our country.


           20                      Governor Rendell's African American


           21              Business Summit will be conducted on


           22              September 4 and 5, 2008, at the Holiday Inn


           23              Harrisburg East.  Attendees will gain


           24              immeasurable information to succeed in


           25              growing their business.  For information






            1              contact the Governor's Advisory Commission


            2              on African American Affairs or GACAAA at


            3              717-772-5085.


            4                      This Saturday, July 26, there will


            5              be a benefit for Kelly Osborne from 1 to


            6              6 p.m. at the Minooka American Legion.


            7              Kelly, a Scranton High alumni, is in need of


            8              your help to pay for serious medical


            9              expenses.  Tickets are $10 and can be


           10              purchased at the door or from members of the


           11              Minooka Lion's Club.  Please help Kelly and


           12              her family.


           13                      I wish to recognize the Rolling


           14              Thunder Association for organizing a


           15              motorcycle ride to benefit the vets of the


           16              Gino Merli Veteran's Hospital this past


           17              Sunday, July 20.  Three parking lots and


           18              Capouse Avenue were covered by motorcycles


           19              as riders awaited the start of this


           20              fundraising events.  Congratulations to


           21              Mr. Golden and everyone who helped make this


           22              project a great success.


           23                      I also wish to recognize Mr. Tim


           24              McHale who enlisted in the US Navy and is in


           25              training to become a member of the






            1              prestigious Navy Seals.  He is a graduate of


            2              Holy Cross High School and is the grandson


            3              of Mrs. Helen Kravath of North Scranton and


            4              that's all.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. McGoff, I don't


            6              know if it's appropriate for me to read this


            7              at this time or in motions, but I'll read it


            8              now, but Sunday I got a call about a rescue


            9              that was taking place and I couldn't leave


           10              to go to the rescue, so I got an account of


           11              the rescue and I'd just like to read it to


           12              you, if I could.  At 1034 Rescue One and


           13              Truck 4 were dispatched to 119 Norfolk Way


           14              for a 75-year-old male stuck in a tree.


           15              Upon arrival the crews found the victim


           16              approximately 15 to 20 feet up in a tree.


           17              He apparently slipped and fell and was


           18              hanging by his ankle upside down which was


           19              struck on a branch.  The crews rapidly


           20              assessed the situation and setup a rope


           21              system to safely lower the victim.  With


           22              assistance from off-duty personnel,


           23              Chauffeur Mike Hales, Chauffeur Tom Knoll,


           24              and Captain Robert Golden, retired, all


           25              three live in the neighborhood and ran to






            1              assist before the responding units got on


            2              scene.  The man was lowered to the ground


            3              without further injury and turned over to


            4              EMS for evaluation.  The operation took less


            5              than 15 minutes from the time the company


            6              arrived on scene to the extradition of the


            7              patient.


            8                      The company's responding were Rescue


            9              1, acting Captain Dan Franz, acting


           10              chauffeur Dan Ulansky, Private Tim Murray;


           11              Truck 4, active captain Kevin Chisak,


           12              Chauffeur Mark Davis and Captain Robert


           13              Corbett.


           14                      They were talking to me on the


           15              phones, somebody was there as it was


           16              happening and it was much more dramatic than


           17              what this write-up sounds, so I just wanted


           18              to thank all of the people that were


           19              involved here, again, a 75-year-old man he


           20              was dangling upside down I guess for quite


           21              sometime before somebody found him, so just


           22              thank you to everybody concerned and we are


           23              glad that he is okay.  Thank you.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: I have two


           25              announcements.  One is that there is going






            1              to be a film about members of the garment


            2              industry, this is great because this goes


            3              back to all of our history, and it's about


            4              northeastern Pennsylvania and the garment


            5              industry and it will be showing on Sunday,


            6              July 27 at 1 p.m at the Steamtown National


            7              Historical site and it's $6.00 for general


            8              admission.  This is great because it really


            9              will bring us back to a lot of our heritage.


           10                      Also, I had some inquiries on the


           11              Shiloh Baptist backpack fundraising.  You


           12              can call Shiloh directly or also I'm going


           13              to talk to 61 about probably putting the


           14              information up there so we can be ready for


           15              that for September, so that would be great,


           16              and that's all I have.  Thank you.


           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, that whittles me


           18              down to a few things, the social director


           19              isn't the social director today.  Friday at


           20              Nay Aug Park there will be a party in the


           21              park from 5 to 7 and the singer, featured


           22              singer, is Shanay Brown, Stacy's wife.  If


           23              you haven't heard her she is really


           24              wonderful.


           25                      Also, on August 1, 2 and 3 is the






            1              downtown Scranton Jazz festival.  It will be


            2              featuring Phil Woods, Marco Marcinko and


            3              bands of that caliber.  The main stage will


            4              be at the Radisson.  You can get tickets at


            5              Joe Nardone's Gallery of Sound or by calling


            6              the Radisson at 342-8300.  It's a three-day


            7              event and many of the venues in the downtown


            8              will also participate.


            9                      And the last thing I have is really


           10              not an announcement, but it is a


           11              commendation of praise.  Many of the


           12              neighbors in the 1600 block of South Irving


           13              Avenue were the heinous murders were


           14              committed have contacted me and they wanted


           15              me to announce that they want to thank


           16              everyone that was involved and heap mounds


           17              of praise upon the FBI, the state police and


           18              more important the Scranton Police


           19              Department.  They all did an excellent job.


           20              The murderer was apprehended by 4:00 that


           21              afternoon.  It was a wonderful job on the


           22              part of everyone.  It was a terrible,


           23              terrible tragedy that happened.  It could


           24              happen anywhere, domestic violence is on the


           25              rise in America and it's a crime of passion,






            1              one that cannot be controlled and it's a


            2              very, very sad situation.


            3                      As Mrs. Evans said, many of those


            4              children we know because they were students


            5              of the high schools, and I would just like


            6              to thank the FBI, the state police and, of


            7              course, Scranton's finest for doing their


            8              best in apprehending this terrible, terrible


            9              criminal who took the lives of three young


           10              people in our community.  Thank you.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Fourth Order.  Marie


           12              Schumacher.


           13                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good morning, Marie


           14              Schumacher.  Last week I asked Mrs. Fanucci


           15              to provide a description of the eligible


           16              project that would funded by what is 7-F


           17              this week.  In as much as HUD requires


           18              economic development and administration


           19              loans to be used to leverage private


           20              investment of at least $2 for every dollar


           21              of economic development administration


           22              investment, I would also request Mrs.


           23              Fanucci to explain why the leverage funds


           24              are not specified in the backup for 7-F.  If


           25              this answer is not available this morning, I






            1              request this item be tabled until the


            2              leverage requirement is made contractual.


            3                   Last week a frustrated and exacerbated


            4              Mr. Gilroy was asking for help for his mom's


            5              property.  I checked the one property, 1006


            6              Mt. Vernon, did any of you?  Do you know


            7              whether that home is owner occupied or


            8              rental property?  If it is a rental property


            9              do you know whether it is registered in


           10              accordance with the ordinance you passed


           11              just last year?


           12                      These questions are mere rhetoric as


           13              I am using them to segway to another topic


           14              which is why you shouldn't take a four-week


           15              August recess.  This taxpayer is suggesting


           16              the need for several work sessions.  Today


           17              you attempted, but failed to shed light on a


           18              portion of the past.  You need to put the


           19              emphasis on the future.  I have talked


           20              several times before about the multi-year


           21              budget prepared in 2003 by the Public


           22              Financial Management of Philadelphia and the


           23              fact that it appears this $25,000 report was


           24              tossed in a file and forgotten about, that


           25              is, until I requested a copy under the Right






            1              to Know Statute.  This report includes much


            2              helpful information including this quote


            3              from Standard and Poor's credit week


            4              municipal:  "Multi-year planning is a


            5              critical exercise.  These plans often have


            6              outyear gaps projected which allow


            7              government to work out in advance the


            8              optimal way to restore fiscal balance."


            9                      Where is Scranton's multi-year


           10              budget?  Where for that matter is the


           11              capital budget the Administrative Code


           12              Section 601 says council should have


           13              received by June 1?  Have you ever sat down


           14              with the Administrative Code and made a list


           15              of the dates when materials are due?  Do you


           16              understand the components of the budget?  I


           17              believe the answer to that is, no, and I'll


           18              tell you why, last year you passed on July


           19              26 ordinance 105 which established a


           20              registration program for residential rental


           21              properties which among other items


           22              established fees for the costs associated


           23              with the registration.  I'm quite confident


           24              you felt noble for having made a major dent


           25              in the absentee landlord problem.  All well






            1              and good, but how did you think this would


            2              be implemented?  Did you add a staff


            3              position even for the first year to ferret


            4              out which properties are not owner occupied


            5              and send out notices for completion and


            6              compliance?  No.  You really need to


            7              understand both the budget and unintended


            8              consequences of your actions.  More on that


            9              another day.


           10                      At this time, I would like to share


           11              with you some materials from a city that is


           12              comparable in many ways to Scranton, that


           13              is, the City of Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.


           14              There is a single page in the materials I


           15              will provide to you showing the 2007 budget.


           16              If you compare the figures with Scranton's


           17              budget I believe we will find the key to why


           18              Bethlehem flourishes and Scranton is


           19              struggling.  Scranton's Act 511 taxes in


           20              2007 were budgeted at $27,346,955 while


           21              Bethlehem's were $11,600,000.  The second


           22              document, a portion, a small portion of the


           23              entire Bethlehem capital budget.  Note the


           24              detail in the justification for the funds.


           25              Compare this with what you received for






            1              Scranton.  The final package is again a


            2              small section of the Bethlehem operating


            3              budget request.  Notice the detail.  Compare


            4              it with Scranton's paltry budget submittal.


            5              Please embrace the possibility -- the


            6              responsibilities associated with your


            7              position.  Next time.  May I?


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            9              Mrs. Schumacher.  Rich Gilroy.


           10                      MR. GILROY: Rich Gilroy, Scranton


           11              resident, I was here last week.


           12              Mr. Courtright, you said about Townhouse


           13              Boulevard about the dumpsters without the


           14              lids on them, you said you mentioned about


           15              the children that she couldn't put that on


           16              the lids on them, well, like I said before


           17              my mom is there 20 years there was always


           18              lids on them until this vendor had taken --


           19              since they put the lids there, but since


           20              last year, but there is a birds flying in


           21              there so they get bird droppings all over my


           22              mom's driveway, there is cats --


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I have an answer for


           24              you if you would like to hear it?


           25                      MR. GILROY: Could I please finish?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Sure.


            2                      MR. GILROY: Because I only have five


            3              minutes, I have a lot to cover, a lot of


            4              topics to cover.  There is, like I said,


            5              birds flying in there for food.  There is


            6              bird droppings, you can get a disease from


            7              that.  Skunks, cats, garbage all over the


            8              road and it's always in my mom's driveway,


            9              it's a disgrace.  I mean, come on.  Why


           10              should we even have to look at that?  That's


           11              more closer to homeowner's homes than the


           12              tenants that live there.  It's right on the


           13              road and plus with the humidity, the hot


           14              weather, you can really smell, smell them


           15              dumpsters because they never change them or


           16              clean them like the other vendors did, and


           17              I'd like to express again back in '99 there


           18              was a drug problem there, my mom's road was


           19              blocked off with a concrete barricade for a


           20              year and we all together, the homeowners,


           21              and complained about it, it was terrible,


           22              and there is still drug dealing going on


           23              there.


           24                      And another thing is I understand if


           25              you had an offense, like, a criminal offense






            1              there is one tenant living there with a


            2              serious criminal offense, he was in prison,


            3              they occasionally stay there.  One of the


            4              guys exposed himself o my mom last year and


            5              he was there yesterday.  My mom was


            6              terrified to even go out of her home and


            7              then another person at the same residence,


            8              this was about five months ago, and she went


            9              out to pick the garbage up from that


           10              dumpster, it was in our own driveway, the


           11              girl was going to run her over with her SUV.


           12              She says, "Get out of the way."


           13                      And my mom is in her own driveway


           14              picking up the garage.  There is a hearing


           15              coming up about that, but I think it's a


           16              disgrace.  This person had a serious offense


           17              and she is still living there.  She was


           18              never evicted out of there, and two months


           19              ago there was a stabbing over a diaper bag,


           20              that's the place where the girl lived in


           21              that project.  Last year a chop shop, a guy


           22              running a chop shop, he lived there two


           23              years ago from Afghanistan, he was


           24              photographing children with a camera, that


           25              was a pedophile two years ago, so there is a






            1              lot of history with that project, and that


            2              place should have closed down nine years ago


            3              with the drugs and it still was left open.


            4                   Now, another topic, 1006 next to my mom


            5              there was a busted shed there.  There was


            6              all skunks living under there, they fixed


            7              the shed, but the grass was never cut, an


            8              out-of-town landlord.  My mom had a problem,


            9              there was a drug house in 2005, she had to


           10              get an attorney.  There was ten guys living


           11              in the basement and they were dealing drugs


           12              in the back of the project that night and


           13              going, we know where the houses were at the


           14              project where they were going.  So, I mean,


           15              there are still drug dealers living there


           16              and it's a disgrace, and then plus five


           17              condemned houses, the three on my mom's


           18              street on Mt. Vernon Avenue and two up on


           19              Main Avenue within a block of where my mom


           20              was, so that's five condemned houses, one


           21              house a blighted lot where a house once


           22              stood where they tore it down and the lot


           23              was never cleaned out.


           24                      The road is a mess in the back, all


           25              big potholes, a pothole in front of my hops






            1              house I asked the guy from the DPW about it


            2              eight weeks ago -- no, seven weeks ago would


            3              you please fill that pothole because every


            4              time they hit it my mom's chandelier shakes


            5              in the front room, well, they didn't do it.


            6              They won't even do that, a pothole, and what


            7              gets me is three weeks ago when I was


            8              shopping at Big Lots there is the DPW truck


            9              they were in there shopping on a Saturday,


           10              so you tell me.


           11                      I mean, how much can you take living


           12              there?  And then my mom gets her taxes


           13              raised 25 percent to live in that


           14              neighborhood?  She is even afraid to go


           15              outside that's how bad it is up there.  You


           16              have to hide yourself in your house living


           17              up by that project, it shouldn't be.


           18                   Another thing, Mr. Courtright, I said


           19              about there is only one entrance in that


           20              housing project, the front entrance with no


           21              screen door on, the one that was closed


           22              downtown has two entrances and how is that?


           23              The one house had three-family living and


           24              eight cars, no, nine cars he had, and the


           25              end guy was changing oil, but I said that






            1              last week when I was there.  Changing oil


            2              and dumping it down the drain there and I


            3              went down to the office and told the manger


            4              about it, next thing you know there is only


            5              two cars there and he parked the other seven


            6              cars down by Fiorelli's.  Well, that's all I


            7              got to say, but can you please tell me why


            8              there is only one entrance in that housing


            9              project, and I would like an answer about


           10              those what she is going to do about those


           11              lids on there because there is a terrible


           12              foul smell.  Like I said, they never changed


           13              them.


           14                      And another thing, fire crackers,


           15              they were shot at my mom's house, that's why


           16              I brought these here to show you, these are


           17              illegal, the long stem, and the siding was


           18              singed burned, they damaged the exhaust fan


           19              which by mom has to hire somebody because I


           20              can't get up there to get at it.  They did


           21              property damage.  I mean, where is the


           22              security there?  How can they -- the whole


           23              street was like an inferno, it was like you


           24              couldn't even park the night before the


           25              Fourth of July and then about a week after






            1              they were shooting M-80's, little kids,


            2              seven years old shooting M-80's off, give me


            3              a break.  If they don't -- why don't she


            4              worry about that with the fireworks?


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gilroy.


            6                      MR. GILROY: Can you give me an


            7              answer about the dumpsters with the lids,


            8              please.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gilroy.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You wouldn't let me


           11              answer you and now your time is up and now I


           12              can't answer you.


           13                      MR. GILROY: Well, I had so much to


           14              say.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'll answer it in


           16              motions, I can't answer you now.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gilroy.


           18                      MR. GILROY: All right.  Thank you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Les Spindler.


           20                      MR. SPINDLER: Good morning, Council.


           21              Les Spindler, city resident, homeowner.  I


           22              see in the morning paper today that Ken


           23              McDowell is suing council.  He was


           24              exonerated by the FBI what is he afraid of,


           25              why doesn't he come in here, what's he got






            1              to hide?  Maybe coming in this morning would


            2              have interfered with his tee time.


            3                      As everybody knows there was a


            4              terrible triple homicide in South Side last


            5              week and we have other crime in the city and


            6              Chris Doherty wants to cut our police force.


            7              You are going to have put deadbolts on your


            8              doors, bars on your windows, you won't be


            9              able to leave your house if we get any less


           10              policemen in this city.  Where the cuts


           11              should be made is in Chris Doherty's


           12              administration where he illegally according


           13              to his Recovery Plan hired people and gave


           14              them raises, and that's where the cuts


           15              should be made in his administration not


           16              with public safety.


           17                      Mr. McGoff, last week you made a


           18              comment that maybe former council people and


           19              other politicians should be allowed more


           20              time to speak.  Well, are they any better


           21              than myself or anyone else that comes in


           22              this podium?  Mr. McGoff, can you answer


           23              that question, please?


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: No, they are not any


           25              better.






            1                      MR. SPINDLER: Well, then why should


            2              they be allowed more time?


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: It was at my discretion.


            4                      MR. SPINDLER:  Well, that's


            5              discrimination, it's not your discretion.


            6              They are no better than we are.  So, if they


            7              are allowed more time everyone that comes to


            8              this podium should be allowed more time.


            9                      I see yesterday where Mayor Barletta


           10              of Hazleton was named mayor of the year.


           11              Well, if Chris Doherty has done so much for


           12              this city according to certain people,


           13              Mrs. Fanucci, why wasn't he named mayor of


           14              the year?


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  I wasn't on the


           16              committee to elect.


           17                      MR. SPINDLER: You mustn't have been


           18              on the committee to put his name in either


           19              because these names had to be submitted by


           20              people.  I guess Mayor Barletta is doing a


           21              lot better job than Chris Doherty is.


           22                   Mr. Courtright, last week you made a


           23              comment that, I forget who it was, someone


           24              from ECTV said that these tapes aren't being


           25              edited, well, I watched the tape last week






            1              and when Ray Lyman left here the tape went


            2              black for a good minute and then when it


            3              came on Mrs. Hubbard was speaking again


            4              already into her presentation, so I guess


            5              that part of that tape must be down at Chris


            6              Doherty's floor.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Do you want me to


            8              answer, Les?


            9                      MR. SPINDLER: No, you can say later,


           10              but it's not ECTV it's CD TV, Chris Doherty


           11              TV.


           12                      The next thing, with the Lackawanna


           13              County bridge being closed most of the


           14              traffic going to the mall has to -- I think


           15              it's going west on Lackawanna Avenue and


           16              this is about three years now I have been


           17              asking for lines to be painted here and now


           18              most of the traffic has to go that way,


           19              nobody knows what lane to get into because


           20              there are no lanes, so this is ridiculous.


           21                   The same with the corner of Spruce and


           22              Franklin, I commented about that.  A few


           23              weeks ago I was on Washington Avenue and


           24              Spruce in front of the Rite Aid in the


           25              turning lane, the light turns green, I go to






            1              turn, a lady from the straight lane turns in


            2              front of me, if I didn't stop she would have


            3              ran right into me, no lanes there either.


            4              This is a safety hazard and I don't know


            5              what the problem is with these lines being


            6              painted.  Something has to be done.  I have


            7              asked for three years now.  Maybe I have the


            8              wrong signs in my front yard come election


            9              time, I don't know.  This is a public safety


           10              issue.  That's all I have right now.  See


           11              you in September, Council.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.


           13              Ozzie Quinn.


           14                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'


           15              Association.  First I'd like to make a few


           16              announcements.  This afternoon at 4:00 p.m.


           17              OECD is going to hold a public hearing over


           18              at the Scranton Life Building, eighth floor


           19              regarding the fifth year action plan.  Those


           20              that can attend should and give their input


           21              of how you feel this money should be used.


           22              It's ashame it's over there, but it should


           23              be right here in city hall, however, it


           24              isn't.  The other thing is that the Scranton


           25              Taxpayer -- the Scranton/Lackawanna County






            1              Taxpayers' Association will meet this


            2              Thursday, 6:00 p.m., right here in city


            3              council chambers.  Lieutenant David Gervasi,


            4              first president of the firefighters' union


            5              will be present to address the taxpayers.


            6                   Also, our demonstration will continue


            7              this Saturday at 11 a.m., everybody is


            8              invited to the Taxpayers' Association and to


            9              the demonstration, the demonstration will be


           10              held on Lackawanna Avenue in front of the


           11              Steamtown Mall.


           12                      Last week I attended a school board


           13              meeting and they passed a resolution that


           14              they can increase the taxes up to


           15              6.4 percent which I think they will because


           16              of their negotiating with the unions and the


           17              salary increases they are giving each other


           18              over there and the fact that the county has


           19              a 207 million dollar deficit, that's


           20              principal, and the city 108, that was in


           21              2006, also I believe, so we are talking a


           22              lot of money in principal, so just look at


           23              long-term I want to pickup where Janet


           24              Evans, Mrs. Evans spoke last week in regard


           25              to the motions, she indicated that there was






            1              $226,925 in regards to indebtedness,


            2              long-term indebtedness in the City of


            3              Scranton, but she also included the 35


            4              million bond issue by the parking authority


            5              which would go up to 52 1/2 million dollars


            6              and basically we would be $279 million in


            7              long-term debt just in the city


            8              administration.


            9                      Now, that's according to the 2006


           10              single audit.  Now, we are still waiting for


           11              the audit for that last year which is going


           12              to be two months overdue.  Now, you looked a


           13              this morning, if you read this morning's


           14              Scranton Time's mail bag and you saw all of


           15              the people whose utilities are being cut


           16              off, over 600,000, and I assume a good


           17              portion of them are living in the City of


           18              Scranton, and with these tax increases and


           19              these debts and we are looking for more


           20              money to balance the 2008 budget and to pay


           21              off a loan, the Doherty loan, this is


           22              getting out of hand and I don't know how


           23              people are going to when they get their tax


           24              bills in January and with the utility costs


           25              I don't know how they are going to be able






            1              to make it.  I hope they do make it.


            2                      The problem is that we got to look


            3              start looking at priorities here and we are


            4              getting way out of line, way out of line


            5              when the City of Scranton owes so much money


            6              and we have so little revenue being taken


            7              in, and what's happening is the city just


            8              has no place to go.  How the heck can you


            9              grow when you have that much debt, you just


           10              can't.  Mayor Doherty has just put us way


           11              under.  There is no doubt about it, I mean,


           12              you can say, oh, yeah, look at the building


           13              down on Lackawanna Avenue, but look at the


           14              back porches in the neighborhoods.  It's


           15              ashame and that's what I hope to speak on


           16              this afternoon at 4:00 p.m., I appreciate


           17              that and, Mr. McGoff, last week you


           18              mentioned and I believe in motions or


           19              whatever the fact that you felt that there


           20              was no discrimination at the Nay Aug Pool, I


           21              just feel that, you know, those Hill Section


           22              low income children should have access to


           23              Nay Aug pool, you know, every other section


           24              of the city has access to the pool and city


           25              council should actually do something about






            1              it because by just charging $3 a lot of


            2              children cannot afford it, their families


            3              can't afford it, a lot of single mothers,


            4              and this loan is discrimination, you know,


            5              and the fact is that you are up there today


            6              and they should be able to go up there


            7              today, I mean, there is no doubt about it.


            8              They can't walk over, in this day and age


            9              you can't walk over to South Side or over to


           10              West Side with all of the traffic and the


           11              predators, kids under 15 years of age going


           12              down to six it's impossible, so let's try to


           13              do something for those children in the Hill


           14              Section and let's try to do something about


           15              this debt and, please, no more borrowing.


           16              Thank you.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.


           18              Stephanie Galla.


           19                      MS. GALLA:  Good morning, Council,


           20              Stephanie Galla, city resident.  I may not


           21              be a very good speaker nor am I a know it


           22              all, but like most people I understand what


           23              I see and hear at which point I use my


           24              common sense to guide me.  I feel compassion


           25              for the people who are in need of help, have






            1              problems and are in need of answers to their


            2              questions.  I have friends and relatives


            3              that are a lot brighter than me, they see,


            4              they hear, they see people coming to council


            5              with problems expecting help and also ideas,


            6              questions and answers depending on council


            7              members they get help or they don't.  City


            8              agencies do or do not respond, it's very


            9              obvious a strong mayor form of government is


           10              in play.


           11                      For quite awhile Mrs. Evans had and


           12              has been asking for an accountability by


           13              city administrators.  It was again obvious


           14              that most council members did not agree or


           15              felt it was unnecessary.  Again, a strong


           16              mayor form of government.  Again, Mrs. Krake


           17              who puts her job and herself on the line


           18              each week when she comes to speak had told


           19              council that city tax collector McDowell was


           20              not coming to work, not collecting taxes and


           21              several grievances were filed against


           22              Mr. McDowell, none of these grievances were


           23              ever made public.  Mr. McDowell was being


           24              paid by the City of Scranton.


           25                      Also, along these lines I would like






            1              to make sure that city council is going to


            2              continue to investigate Mr. McDowell and the


            3              tax office.  I hope his little shenanigans


            4              this morning is not going to deter you guys


            5              from continuing to find out what's been


            6              going on.


            7                      I would like to address the public


            8              at this point.  I hope in September you can


            9              put your thoughts down on paper and come and


           10              speak to council on all of the ongoing


           11              issues.  Yes, you will be little nervous, as


           12              long as you write your thoughts out you can


           13              could it.  We can't sit at home expecting


           14              Andy Sbaraglia, Marie Schumacher, Sam


           15              Patilla, Fay Franus, Ozzie Quinn, etcetera,


           16              to keep coming and carrying the torch for


           17              the rest of us, so please take the time


           18              during August to put your thoughts together


           19              and come and express your hopes and opinions


           20              to council.  Thank you.


           21                      Now, I would like to ask council if


           22              any of you can possibly go to the next


           23              commissioner's meeting and ask them why we


           24              are paying Mr. McDowell $66,000 a year and


           25              he really doesn't have to show up or do his






            1              job.  I'd also like to know does anybody


            2              know his qualifications?  Does he have any?


            3                   And I'd also if you can please check on


            4              the manning of the police and firemen, we


            5              really can't cut them.  I understand that


            6              there is only five cars out there on a


            7              Saturday night, one man, you have to pull


            8              anybody to back up we are in big trouble and


            9              the prime example of I live in South Side,


           10              trust me, I'm not a happy girl right now,


           11              I'm very, very concerned about my safety and


           12              the safety of all of the citizens and, you


           13              know, again, I'd like, you know, some of the


           14              newer members maybe to go back and check


           15              what went on in '93 and stuff with Mayor


           16              Connors and you would understand that the


           17              police and firemen really, really have tried


           18              to work with all of the administrators to


           19              get the contracts resolved and, you know,


           20              make in a safer city.  Thank you.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Galla.


           22              Any other speakers?


           23                      MR. GERVASI:  Good morning.  My name


           24              is Dave Gervasi, firefighter and citizen of


           25              the city.  Two things, first and foremost,






            1              being a firefighter we do have the


            2              opportunity quite a bit to work hand-in-hand


            3              in with the police officers.  They are


            4              usually playing a very big supporting role


            5              fire scenes, incidents, accidents that our


            6              members take care of.  There was a few


            7              incidents last week since the implementation


            8              of the Recovery Plan, it was during some


            9              flooding, and our guys -- I was speaking to


           10              some of our guys that were on many of those


           11              scenes and there wasn't in an officer in


           12              sight to direct traffic and things of that


           13              sort.


           14                      Speaking to other officers we are


           15              finding out at this point that some officers


           16              are doing 12 to 20 calls per shift each.


           17              There is not many situations of backup.


           18              There is incidents with COM Center where all


           19              of the calls are backing up.  There was an


           20              incident in Greenridge, I guess they waited


           21              over 30 minutes for a police officer to show


           22              up.


           23                      As a citizen, not as a firefighter,


           24              as a citizen and in the past working in law


           25              enforcement, this is unconscionable.  I






            1              think this council should get together and


            2              maybe have a little chat with the police


            3              officer or police force, I would talk to the


            4              some of the police officers first.  It's not


            5              good what's happening now and I had a brief


            6              conversation with Mr. Courtright today and I


            7              know he is on top of it and I know he has


            8              been talking to many of the officers and I


            9              hope council would address the situation and


           10              I hope that the people out there would


           11              realize that there was two or three shifts


           12              in the last week where your police


           13              protection has been cut 75 percent during


           14              certain periods, 75 percent when there was a


           15              few occasions where there was three police


           16              officers working covering the entire city.


           17              It's not right.  It's not right.  You know,


           18              the mayor is sitting on an $11 million


           19              surplus, you know, $4 million comes up in


           20              taxes of people who haven't been paying


           21              their taxes, that's not even going after


           22              delinquency, that's people that just all of


           23              sudden realize they have to pay wage tax and


           24              whatever portion of the $12 million under


           25              the Ken McDowell debacle that belongs to the






            1              city and they don't want to call in some


            2              extra duty guys for overtime to cover our


            3              streets?  I mean, come on.  I mean, that's


            4              the basic necessity.  That's more important


            5              than fire protection having a police officer


            6              there when things happen.


            7                      Getting back to what I was speaking


            8              of last week a few people called me and they


            9              were confused over some of the budgetary


           10              things I was talking about.  They said how


           11              can we be so far in debt and the city is


           12              broke, but how could we possibly have a


           13              surplus?  I'm going to make this as simple


           14              as I could because I'm not a CPA, but this


           15              is how I understand it.  Chris Doherty took


           16              office, there was we were paying in


           17              long-term debt, basically your mortgage, our


           18              mortgage of the debt we owed.  They were


           19              paying $3.5 million a year, fast forward to


           20              last year we are now making debt payments of


           21              $16 million a year on the debt service that


           22              we owe.  So, our debt service went up


           23              $12.5 million a year which basically means


           24              our mortgage payments, there is


           25              $12.5 million a year more today than there






            1              was in 2002 that we can never use again for


            2              police protection, fire protection, buying


            3              equipment, cleaning your streets, paving


            4              your roads.  That is all going to our debt


            5              payment for the term of those bonds that


            6              were floated and the money that was


            7              borrowed.  Some are ten years, some are 15,


            8              some are 28.  We are in debt hundreds of


            9              millions of dollars, but we don't owe it


           10              today.  We make payments.  If you owe


           11              $100,000 on your house you don't have to pay


           12              the bank today $100,000, you pay it over


           13              30 years, 20 years, whatever the term of


           14              your mortgage is.


           15                      From my understanding there is a


           16              surplus.  According to every piece of


           17              financial information we were able to obtain


           18              from the city we had it studied by our


           19              international, we had it studied by a doctor


           20              of economy, the city since 1999 has been


           21              making, bringing in more money in tax


           22              revenue than it costs to run the city in


           23              total.  Last year the city brought in


           24              $11 million more than if needed to run the


           25              city.  The year before that it brought in






            1              $5.9 million more than they needed and the


            2              mayor raised your taxes 25 percent when he


            3              already was running a budget surplus, so I


            4              just wanted to make that clear, yes, are we


            5              in debt?  Is there a Doherty debt?  It's


            6              huge.  It quadrupled in seven years.  The


            7              payments have more than quadrupled our debt


            8              payments, but there was never any reason to


            9              borrow, there was never any reason to raise


           10              your taxes and there is no reason whatsoever


           11              that they have to cut your public safety.


           12              Thank you.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gervasi.


           14              Mr. Davis.


           15                      MR. DAVIS: Salaam aleikum.  My name


           16              is Jim Davis.  I'm a native of Scranton, a


           17              veteran and all of those other things, and I


           18              have sat for two weeks and I have listened


           19              to what we are trying to do and I hear you


           20              keep debating away from Nay Aug Park.  Well,


           21              it's an affront to the nonwhite community,


           22              the minority community of Scranton, to know


           23              that you want to charge the children that


           24              live in the Hill Section, that live in the


           25              central city of Scranton that would use this






            1              park money to go and swim when other


            2              children from West Side, North Scranton,


            3              from whatever, have free parks to go to.


            4              That means that the danger of our kids


            5              transporting themselves away from central


            6              city to these parks to go swimming becomes


            7              more dangerous, it becomes a public safety


            8              hazard or problem.  I've had two or three


            9              ministers come to me say, "Well, Jim, why


           10              don't we say something about that?"


           11                      So what I want to say now is that


           12              you ministers in your churches don't send


           13              your children to Nay Aug Park, just don't


           14              use it, for awhile, just let's just cut it


           15              all out, all right?  I think maybe that's


           16              the only way we can make Mr. Doherty or


           17              Mayor Doherty and others who wish to have


           18              this segregated park change their minds.  We


           19              fought this back in 1955 which was the first


           20              year I was allowed to swim in Nay Aug Park,


           21              I can remember this, and I'm saying that we


           22              don't need it again.  Our kids have learned


           23              to live together, they have learned to


           24              educate themselves together and they have


           25              learned to have fun together, so let's let






            1              it be like that for awhile.  You are going


            2              to make the separation, you are going to


            3              make that big move that's going to say I


            4              don't want my kids or these kids and I will


            5              make sure is doesn't happen, I will make it


            6              too expensive for them to be here.


            7                      No child, no family that I know of


            8              either minority or otherwise can afford to


            9              send three kids to Nay Aug Park three times


           10              a week.  They just can't to it.  That's


           11              something we did automatically.  It was an


           12              open day.  Hey, our parents, sometimes our


           13              parents went with us, sometimes only one


           14              parent on the whole block would go and


           15              supervise all of our activities.  When they


           16              said it was time to leave we got up and


           17              left.  I can remember that and I remember


           18              how well controlled we were.  Now, I think


           19              we were really well controlled, but I'm


           20              saying with all of the our people that we


           21              have that have that are either school


           22              teachers or in the schooling system that


           23              allow this to go on you can see the danger.


           24              Can't you see the danger of what you are


           25              building for the future?






            1                      If you don't allow my kid not to


            2              play with your kid or to swim with your kid,


            3              my kid is going to eventually say why?


            4              Well, you got to come up with some sort of a


            5              system.  They can't afford to or they are


            6              dirty or they are this or that.  This is


            7              what they used to use.  I don't want that to


            8              happen again and I pray, please, don't let


            9              it happen again.  Use the city council, you


           10              got to stand up now and say we either want a


           11              city that we are proud of or we are going to


           12              lose the city because what you are doing is


           13              you are performing an act of terrorism I


           14              think to those that are not white or


           15              Caucasian.  This is how terrorism starts,


           16              believe it.  First of all, they feel that


           17              they are not worthy, then once they don't


           18              feel that they are worthy then they feel


           19              there is something about it, then you get


           20              the anger, and that's bad.  Crime -- you


           21              don't have any police as it is you are going


           22              to spend all the policeman's time chasing


           23              around after these kids which is wrong.  I


           24              hope you can do something about it.  I hope


           25              you can rescind the act have given or done






            1              so far as far as Nay Aug is concerned.


            2                      MR.  MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr. Davis.


            3                      MR. DAVIS: And do something about it


            4              really.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


            6                      MR. DOBSON: Good morning, Council,


            7              Dave Dobson, resident of the Scranton,


            8              Taxpayers' Association associate.  I'd like


            9              to talk first about the police and fire.  We


           10              really need to reconsider any cuts in any


           11              departments and to get that situation


           12              straightened out if possible.  It's really a


           13              matter of public safety.  The only thing


           14              worse than being murdered is probably


           15              burning to death in a fire.  It's ungodly to


           16              think that 38 people should be dismissed


           17              from the fire department right now


           18              especially with all of the old dwellings and


           19              so forth we have in this town requiring


           20              everybody to move out of their house because


           21              it's not up to code isn't a good answer.


           22                      On this Nay Aug I also would like to


           23              say that people from the Hill Section should


           24              be allowed to go to Nay Aug.  It's not a


           25              racial thing so much as an economic






            1              discrimination and we really need to


            2              reconsider what are these kids going to be


            3              like when they get older and they realize


            4              that they have been deprived all their life


            5              of equal treatment and equal amenities from


            6              the city.


            7                      Mr. McDowell I have a -- I have been


            8              wondering the last few weeks on all of these


            9              extra taxes that have been collected.  It


           10              would be interesting to note whether these


           11              taxes were deducted by employers from their


           12              employee's checks and never turned over,


           13              that to me is particularly egregious where a


           14              citizen pays taxes and they are not turned


           15              over on a timely basis to the city or


           16              whoever they are due to.


           17                      And also from what I understand,


           18              maybe I'm wrong, but in a case of the IRS if


           19              your employer deducts the taxes and doesn't


           20              hand them over you are still responsible for


           21              someone some of them, so that's a double


           22              whammy and in addition to that interest and


           23              penalties.


           24                      On industrial park development, I'm


           25              going to keep talking about this until the






            1              leave of absence for the summer, hopefully I


            2              can affect a policy change some day.  The


            3              suburbs as they stand right now are


            4              unsustainable, they don't generate enough


            5              taxes to justify the infrastructure and


            6              maintenance required of that infrastructure,


            7              they are energy unwise, we have a lot of


            8              brownfields, once again I think I mentioned


            9              that before that need to be redeveloped and


           10              we should be surveying these and deciding


           11              what might be done with any issue of


           12              industrial development.  They are already


           13              polluted fairly well, so naturally we


           14              wouldn't want anymore pollution, however, it


           15              wouldn't be as much of a concern because say


           16              like Waverly Industrial Park where 500


           17              people have been drinking contaminated water


           18              probably one of the worst chemicals in


           19              history.  The only reason that's not use


           20              would as an insecticide is because that


           21              particular chemical TCE is because it's so


           22              volatile that if you dumped it in the middle


           23              of the floor it would sit there and boil


           24              away.  So, if you sprayed it on an insect it


           25              would kill them.  If you expected it to kill






            1              them an hour later it wouldn't be there, so


            2              that's an example of why people, why the


            3              government should be considering development


            4              out in these outreaching communities and,


            5              furthermore, I feel that the purpose is to


            6              generate taxes to sustain countryside


            7              development as opposed to the city and in


            8              that way we could justify, oh, well, we have


            9              to build a better road or we have to build


           10              better bridges to these places because this


           11              plant or that plant is out there or this


           12              industrial park is out there.


           13                      Thank you.  Hopefully some day we


           14              will see a change in policy and it would


           15              lovely to see development starting inside of


           16              the cities and not out in the middle of the


           17              country side where we are just polluting


           18              virgin land.  Thank you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.


           20                      MR. SLEDENZSKI:  Hello, Jude.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: Hi, Chrissy.


           22                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Hi, Bill.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Hi, Chrissy.


           24                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Up or down, Bill?


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Bring it up, Chris.






            1                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: Judy, the Dream Game


            2              is July 30 this year instead of August this


            3              year, they switched it.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: Oh, it's early.


            5                      MR. SLEDENZSKI: It's early this


            6              year, yeah.


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Thank you.


            8                      MS. KRAKE: Good morning, city


            9              council.  What I have to say is pretty much


           10              going to echo what the speakers before me


           11              have said today.  I have a couple of


           12              different topics, but they are all about


           13              accountability.  I would like to request


           14              once again a breakdown of all of the monies


           15              collected through the SRA from Abrahamson,


           16              Moran and Conaboy.  Apparently they gave one


           17              lump sum, that was not my original request.


           18              I asked for it to be broken down to the tax


           19              paid to the city, the interest paid to the


           20              city and then all of the amounts that just


           21              went to Abrahamson, Moran and Conaboy which


           22              would be the fines, fees and penalties that


           23              were passed by three persons on council,


           24              Mrs. Gatelli, Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Fanucci.


           25              Also, these properties were liened, but






            1              there was not a tax sale.  Once again, part


            2              of your accountability.


            3                      Also, is there an agreement in


            4              existence between ECTV and the city?  I


            5              would like to know what the terms of this


            6              agreement are and who signed off on it.


            7              Finally, Mr. McDowell is not here today.  I


            8              think it's Mayor Doherty who should be here


            9              today.  Other municipalities went to that


           10              tax office and demanded their money, where


           11              was the City of Scranton?  The past six


           12              years we have said nothing.  He should be


           13              called in here and asked why did he turn to


           14              raising our taxes, why did he turn to


           15              borrowing instead of looking into collecting


           16              the wage tax and the delinquent wage.


           17                      Also, the three persons on council


           18              who went along with what he proposed are


           19              also to be held accountable for this.  It


           20              was brought to everyone's attention by


           21              people at this podium as to what was going


           22              on.  Once again, it was Mrs. Gatelli,


           23              Mrs. McGoff, and Mrs. Fanucci who chose to


           24              simply do what the mayor said.  The new


           25              rubber stamps.  There is plenty of funds






            1              apparently, that's extremely obvious even


            2              per the Scranton Times to pay for police


            3              protection, fire protection and the members


            4              of my clerical union who also provide a


            5              valuable service who the mayor has chosen to


            6              cut these past six years.  It's not as


            7              quickly clear when these jobs are cut as it


            8              is with police and fire, but we are short


            9              health inspectors, housing inspectors and


           10              the person who does our animal control.


           11              There should be at least three to four more


           12              jobs here as there was.


           13                      This is a very dangerous game once


           14              again that the mayor is playing and once


           15              again as one of the speakers said this


           16              council needs to embrace it's


           17              responsibilities to the citizens of


           18              Scranton.  Thank you.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.


           20                      MS. HUBBARD: Good morning, Council.


           21              Liz Hubbard, resident, taxpayer of the City


           22              of Scranton.  I just have a couple of


           23              questions.  Bill, regarding that guy in the


           24              tree, how did he get in the tree?


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I believe he was






            1              cutting the tree down.


            2                      MS. HUBBARD: Oh, okay.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And he fell.


            4                      MS. HUBBARD:  I thought maybe he was


            5              just climbing a tree.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I don't think so.


            7                      MS. HUBBARD:  On this 7-G on the


            8              Cartegna family wines is that the religious


            9              wine place that got --


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  No.


           11                      MS. HUBBARD:  Different?  Okay.


           12              That was my question.  I'd like to get back


           13              to the skunk issue.  The city has got to do


           14              something.  It's getting out of hand.  You


           15              can't go out of your house at night.  My


           16              neighbor goes to work for the third shift


           17              and she went out the door the other night


           18              and barely missed getting skunked.  I had to


           19              use a half a can of Oust to get the smell


           20              out of my house.  I mean, I don't


           21              understand, there is money for everything


           22              else, why can't you just hire somebody to


           23              get rid of skunks all over the city?  It's


           24              not just in my neighborhood.


           25                      Anyway, it's like beating my head






            1              against the wall and I have another -- we


            2              are talking about the police officers being


            3              cuts and shifts being cut, why are we


            4              wasting a police officer's time having him


            5              at a city council meeting when he probably


            6              should be out on the street catching


            7              criminals or whatever?


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  He is not here.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  We got rid of him


           10              today because we knew they were shorthanded


           11              and we didn't anticipate needing him, so we


           12              asked -- so we sent him back into service.


           13                      MS. HUBBARD: Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't


           14              notice that he left.  Very good.  I don't


           15              think we need to have a police officer here.


           16              I mean, it's not like people are coming in


           17              with guns and shooting and have a riot.


           18              Once in while somebody might get a little


           19              out of hand, but, you know, they can be


           20              quieted down and just escorted they don't


           21              have to be arrested or have the police, but


           22              that's just my opinion.  Anyway, there is a


           23              meeting next week; correct?  This is not the


           24              last meeting?


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: There is one more.






            1                      MS. HUBBARD: Thank you.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


            3              Anyone else?  Mrs. Evans?


            4                      MS. EVANS: Good morning.  Mr.


            5              McDowell did not appear before council this


            6              morning, instead, he has sued city council.


            7              Consequently, the public must wait even


            8              longer for answers to his questions.


            9              Unfortunately, council cannot comment


           10              further on this situation due to pending


           11              litigation.


           12                      I wish now to return to the $10,000


           13              the mayor gave to the East Scranton Business


           14              Association to give to ECTV.  Attorney


           15              Minora, last week you indicated that the


           16              mayor did have the right to give federal


           17              UDAG monies to entities without the


           18              knowledge and approval of city council.  Do


           19              you have a copy of your source today?


           20                      MR. MINORA: I said I was looking


           21              into it.  Yes, I have most of it written


           22              out, I wanted to speak to a Steven Stein who


           23              is on vacation until tomorrow, he is at HUD


           24              and so, if you please, I would like to get


           25              that done first before I put the whole thing






            1              in writing.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  And when you


            3              are speaking with him if you could also


            4              discuss this, and I raised this question as


            5              well last week, if it were appropriate for


            6              one organization to give it's government


            7              funds to another organization.


            8                      MR. MINORA: That was actually the


            9              primary reason why I wanted to talk to him.


           10                      MS. EVANS: Okay.  Thank you.  I


           11              continue to be concerned about the use of


           12              this $10,000 because funding for a peg


           13              channel operator was not listed among the


           14              uses for the $577,000 in the ordinance of


           15              March 2006.


           16                      Also, I have not received a response


           17              from OECD regarding the date of blight


           18              declaration for 933 Prescott Avenue.  The


           19              issue of this property having been blighted


           20              remains in question.


           21                      Further, although, I did not vote


           22              for the $577,000 in UDAG funds in March 2006


           23              to be used by the mayor for his


           24              discretionary projects, I was not surprised


           25              by the treehouse and other projects because






            1              they were listed in the original ordinance,


            2              thus, even if the mayor has the ability to


            3              give UDAG funds to organizations without the


            4              knowledge and consent of council, I


            5              specifically question this extraordinary


            6              case.  My question is if any organization


            7              can then give those funds to a different


            8              organization.  If so, what would prevent the


            9              transfer and misuse of funds in any UDAG


           10              allocation?


           11                      OECD records will reflect an


           12              allocation to an organization or let's say


           13              organization (a) when audited, but in fact


           14              the funds are in the hands of organization


           15              (b).  As a nonprofit and organization (a)


           16              will report the receipt of OECD funds and


           17              the gifting of the same, the same dollar


           18              amount to organization (b) who is not yet an


           19              official nonprofit with a 501-C-3 status in


           20              order to maintain it's own nonprofit status.


           21              HUD must learn of the ultimate transfer of


           22              these federal funds to ECTV to be used on a


           23              property that was allegedly blighted.


           24                      Also, as a speaker mentioned earlier


           25              the implementation of the Recovery Plan






            1              during the last few weeks has had serious


            2              consequences throughout our city.  I have


            3              spoken to several members of the police


            4              department who are very concerned for the


            5              safety of the public as well as that of


            6              their fellow officers.  Particularly since


            7              there have been only three officers taking


            8              calls on a shift, for example, just last


            9              Friday.  The mayor says he will not cut


           10              police officers yet we are now witnessing


           11              the effects of the elimination of the


           12              minimum manning clause and the assignment of


           13              police officers by the administration, and


           14              I'm sure we would all agree our officers


           15              have been cut and that cut is jeopardizing


           16              all of our safety and welfare.


           17                      Next, I have citizens' requests for


           18              the week.  Council has not received PEL


           19              summaries since the meeting of 6-2-08.


           20              Summaries have been received in a sporadic


           21              and delayed manner in 2008.  Council


           22              requests all PEL summaries since the June 2,


           23              2008, meeting.


           24                      A letter to Miss Vitale, tax


           25              collector, council is in receipt of the






            1              July 2008 year-to-date comparison for tax


            2              collections and is pleased to receive the


            3              monthly report of the Single Tax Office,


            4              however, all debits and credits for tax


            5              collections on pages three, four, five and


            6              six appear to be blacked out.  Please


            7              provide all figures for the July 2008 tax


            8              collection data to city council as soon as


            9              possible and provide all information clearly


           10              in future monthly reports.


           11                      At 348 North Bromley Avenue, this


           12              property is overgrown.  Neighbors report


           13              that grass and weeds have not been cut in


           14              five years.  The owner resides at this


           15              address.  The city inspector has visited the


           16              property several times and spoken to the


           17              owner, nevertheless, no action was taken by


           18              the property owner.  Please follow-up with


           19              the next step in the process which addresses


           20              property owners who ignore warnings from


           21              inspectors.


           22                      1101 Cedar Avenue, residents of the


           23              area have registered numerous complaints


           24              about this blighted property which poses a


           25              fire hazard.  In summer months the property






            1              has a rodent, pigeon and stench problem,


            2              while in winter the sidewalks are impassable


            3              for students walking to South Intermediate


            4              School.  Please notify council when this


            5              structure will be demolished and I did


            6              notice that the structures to be demolished


            7              in the near future that were reported during


            8              last week's council meeting did not include


            9              this particular address.


           10                      A letter to the appropriate party,


           11              what is the timetable for work on the Parker


           12              Street bridge?  Residents in the area report


           13              that no work has occurred since the bridge


           14              was changed to one lane several months ago.


           15              They further report the drivers ignore the


           16              traffic signal and there have been several


           17              near misses of head-on collisions.


           18                      The corner of Marvin and Wells


           19              Street across from the Marvin Dutch Gap


           20              Little League, there is a lengthy, deep open


           21              ditch which runs the length of a resident's


           22              property and is expanding continuously.


           23              Approximately 24 vehicles have landed in


           24              this ditch over the last few years


           25              particularly during winter months and have






            1              required a tow truck in order to be removed.


            2              Both Mr. Parker and Mr. Brazil are familiar


            3              with this location as they have inspected


            4              the problem.  Council requests that the DPW


            5              purchase the necessary tons of rocks to fill


            6              this ditch and perform this work inhouse.


            7                   Further, Linde Construction should be


            8              contacted to repair the damage to the corner


            9              that it's truck have caused.  Now, as I


           10              said, this has been ongoing for several


           11              years and very likely the most appropriate


           12              fix to the situation is extremely costly,


           13              but the residents of the area and the


           14              property owner would be satisfied with a


           15              filling in of the ditch with rocks.


           16                      Now, the property owner has told me


           17              that the DPW will purchase the rocks which


           18              in effect are very inexpensive, but they


           19              will not fill in the ditch in the street


           20              with those rocks and so I'm asking that


           21              council will agree to have the DPW please


           22              provide this service for the residents of


           23              that block.


           24                      3019 Pendant Street, the resident


           25              has failed to comply with the city's vehicle






            1              ordinance regarding current inspection and


            2              registration.  The city inspector has


            3              reported this vehicle to Mr. Oleski and


            4              Mr. Seitzinger, but no action has been


            5              taken.


            6                      And I've lost count, this is a


            7              second or third request, also last Friday I


            8              reported a tree at St. Ann's Basilica which


            9              is located between the sidewalk and the


           10              street where a branch was dangling, a very


           11              large branch above the sidewalk.  I believe


           12              the tree would have been hit by lighting


           13              during a storm last week, and to my


           14              knowledge the DPW has not yet turned up just


           15              to take that one branch from the tree and my


           16              concern is that it's going to fall on the


           17              large number of pedestrians that are


           18              traveling to and from that Novena or even


           19              onto a parked car beside this tree.


           20                      Also, paint traffic lanes on


           21              Lackawanna Avenue near the mall


           22              entrance/exit near to the Lackawanna Avenue


           23              bridge.


           24                      And maybe just one last anecdote, I


           25              meet many people daily at St. Ann's Novena






            1              who take, well, let's say tax advantage of


            2              the fact that I'm a council person so that


            3              they are able to have an ear for their


            4              problems and one gentleman who resides in


            5              West Scranton, in fact, he told me he has


            6              lived there for 49 years and you can tell


            7              just by looking at this gentleman and the


            8              manner in which he performs his work because


            9              he volunteers there that he is meticulous,


           10              and he tells me that he takes -- he and his


           11              wife both take meticulous care of their own,


           12              their property as do many of the residents


           13              of their block and they have done so all


           14              their lives.


           15                      And then he proceeds to tell me that


           16              about two weeks ago on a Sunday he witnessed


           17              a drug deal occurring right on his street


           18              corner and ever brave or foolish man that he


           19              is because this is an older gentleman, he


           20              approached these individuals himself and


           21              said, "Get off my street.  I have never had


           22              drug problems on this street.  I have lived


           23              her all my life, I pay my taxes, now go."


           24                      Well, they just chuckled at him and


           25              then the following Sunday they came back,






            1              but this time the drug deal was conducted


            2              right in front of his house, and again, he


            3              went out and engaged them and said, "Not in


            4              front of my home.  Not on my block.  Not in


            5              my city."


            6                      And he asked me, "Mrs. Evans, what


            7              has happened to Scranton?  What is going on?


            8              And I know where these people --"


            9                       Not me personally, he is saying, "I


           10              know where this dealer lives and it's not


           11              very far from me here."


           12                      And he gave me the address.  He said


           13              he had contacted the police on both


           14              occasions about this and the police -- I


           15              don't want to repeat the response because I


           16              don't want to jeopardize anything that they


           17              may be doing involving this, but the fact of


           18              the matter remains with all that's been said


           19              today as we are seeing the shrinking of the


           20              number of officers per shift I just worry


           21              that we are going to be seeing more and more


           22              of what this very kind, you know, very wise


           23              gentleman told me about and that's just one


           24              of the stories that I have listened to over


           25              the last five days.






            1                      So I think Scranton can ill afford


            2              to continue on it's current path.  We have


            3              got to re prioritize and make the people's


            4              priorities the budgetary priorities and


            5              provide these essential services to the


            6              people who have been paying taxes and living


            7              here and taking care of their properties all


            8              their lives.  They deserve better.  That's


            9              it.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Evans.


           11              Mrs. Gatelli.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: Well, I just wanted to


           13              say that I had Mrs. Garvey check on the


           14              status of the independent audit for the last


           15              several years and in 2002 we received it in


           16              July, July 24.  In 2003 we received the


           17              audit in September of '04; '04's audit was


           18              received in August of '05; '05's audit was


           19              received in November of '06; '06's audit was


           20              received in February of '08.  I just wanted


           21              to give a list of those to let you know that


           22              that is when they have come in.


           23              Mrs. Schumacher continues to ask and we do


           24              want them to come in, but as you can see


           25              they haven't always come in on time.  The






            1              only person I heard from when I sent letters


            2              to the various authorities was the SRA and


            3              they said that their audit would be complete


            4              in August.


            5                      The crosswalk signs that we


            6              discussed quite sometime ago, the ones that


            7              are similar to the ones on Mulberry Street


            8              where they are placed in the crosswalk for


            9              people to have an easier way to access


           10              crossing the street, I finally received them


           11              from PennDOT.  I picked them up last week


           12              and delivered them to St. Joe's Church in


           13              Minooka on Davis Street, West Scranton High


           14              School and Robert Morris School.  Anyone


           15              else who is interested in receiving


           16              crosswalks please contact me and I can put


           17              the order in for you.


           18                      Mr. Gilroy continues to talk about


           19              the lids on the garbage, the one entrance


           20              and no security.  I think that we need to


           21              send Mrs. Yacavazzi a letter.  We had


           22              similar problems in Skyview in my


           23              neighborhood and we met with the managers of


           24              the project and we got things worked out, so


           25              I think that we need to send her a letter as






            1              council that there are some concerns over


            2              there and that we would like to meet with


            3              her, maybe we can meet with Chief Elliott,


            4              or, you know, Bill, if you would want to go,


            5              I'd like to go as a neighborhood person that


            6              I have dealt with that situation before, but


            7              see if she can meet with us at sometime, I'm


            8              willing to go over there and see if we can't


            9              get some of these things taken care of.


           10              They should have some type of security at


           11              that project.  That's -- do they?


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't mean to


           13              interrupt you, but she had called me and


           14              they have police officers there, I don't


           15              want to say the names, she gave me the names


           16              of who is there and the days they are there,


           17              so they do have Scranton police officers


           18              there, not continually, but what would be


           19              considered the high crime times, so they do


           20              have police officers there.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: Something is not right.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, well, maybe we


           23              have to just dig a little bit deeper.


           24                      MS. GATELLI: We can just set up a


           25              meeting and see what's what.  Mr. Spindler






            1              talking about the line painting, from what I


            2              understand stood we did hire line painters


            3              and they are painting crosswalks throughout


            4              the city, so I will call Mr. Brazil and ask


            5              him if he can't get those lines done.  I


            6              know that we have hired someone.


            7                      He also talked about no political


            8              speakers having extra time.  I say, yes, to


            9              that.  They should have the same time as


           10              every other citizen.  Sometimes I feel that


           11              they come here just to get face time when


           12              they are running for office, maybe I'm


           13              wrong, but I think in my own opinion as some


           14              people say at the podium that that's why


           15              they come here and I agree that they should


           16              be stopped after five minutes just like


           17              everyone else.


           18                      The Home Rule Charter, we keep


           19              talking about the Home Rule Charter, I know


           20              we had a committee several years ago and it


           21              was voted down.  The time has since passed


           22              that we can resurrect a new Home Rule


           23              Charter Study Commission, so I would make a


           24              motion today that we start to take the steps


           25              to resurrect a new Home Rule Study Charter






            1              Commission.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Second.


            3                      MS. GATELLI: I made a motion and


            4              Janet seconded it, Mr. McGoff.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  I


            6              guess the only thing that I would ask is


            7              what steps are we looking to take by making


            8              this motion and, you know, and what the


            9              extent of --


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, Mrs. Garvey


           11              would know all of that, so we would have her


           12              initiate it and anything else that we would


           13              have to do as a council we would do, but


           14              there is a committee formed, they meet here


           15              for a year, I think they are elected.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes, it has to run on a


           17              ballot.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  You know, they run on


           19              a ballot, so it will take time to get it


           20              going, but it's well over five years --


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: It's time.


           22                      MS. GATELLI: We can do it again.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: So what we are just


           24              asking to initiate the process.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  To initiate starting






            1              the process.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Anyone else?


            3              All in favor signify by saying aye.


            4                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            9              ayes have it and so moved.


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  Mr. Spindler and


           11              several others also talked about no cops


           12              being cut, as far as I am aware there are no


           13              cops being cut in the Recovery Plan.  If


           14              there is no cops on the street I don't know


           15              the reason and I will try to find out that


           16              reason, but there are no less cops on the


           17              payroll, so I don't really understand maybe


           18              Bill will fill me in on it later, but as far


           19              as I knew there is no less police officers


           20              on the payroll and everyone is alluding to


           21              the fact that the cops have been cut and


           22              that's not true and I just -- Les Spindler


           23              called me on the phone and said, "Make sure


           24              you talk to the mayor about the police


           25              officers and not cutting them," and I said,






            1              "I absolutely will make that phone call."


            2                      And I did speak to the mayor early


            3              in the week and he has no intentions of


            4              cutting any police officers, so I'd like to


            5              find that answer out, why everyone is saying


            6              it and why I'm getting a different story.


            7                   Bethlehem, Mrs. Schumacher talked about


            8              Bethlehem.  I have been to Bethlehem on


            9              several occasions, it is a wonderful city,


           10              they do wonderful things, but they have a


           11              lot of things that we don't have.  They have


           12              their own health department.  They have


           13              their own ambulance.  I believe they either


           14              own their own water company or electric


           15              company, I'm not positive which one, maybe


           16              both.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Water.


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  So, they are able to


           19              access, you know, a utility.  They get money


           20              for a utility and many other things.  They


           21              charge at every swimming pool pay $3.00.


           22              Every child pays to swim.  They have an ice


           23              skating rink, everyone pays to go there.


           24              So, you know, what you see and what's


           25              reality is not always the same.  They have a






            1              lot more assets to tax the people and to


            2              provide services.  It is a wonderful,


            3              wonderful community.  I would go there if


            4              you would like to.  I would take a trip down


            5              there again, I know Mayor Callahan very


            6              well, I have met him at several League of


            7              Cities, he is very young, but he has got a


            8              lot going and Bethlehem is really a


            9              wonderful, wonderful city, I think it's one


           10              of the top 25 places to live in the country


           11              right now.  So that's all I had to say about


           12              that.


           13                      About the subpoenas and


           14              Mr. McDowell, it really is unfortunate.  If


           15              you read the paper this morning, I think


           16              that they try to use council and sometimes


           17              some of the things that happen here that


           18              aren't really pleasant and I think they try


           19              to use that as a scapegoat excuse not to


           20              come here, that it would be a circus and he


           21              would be, you know, interrogated and we had


           22              the tax collector here, we have had


           23              Mr. Skantos here, we had the Tripp Park guy


           24              here, we never had a problem with anyone


           25              that we have had here, I mean, we are all






            1              professionals up here, we are all adults and


            2              we never intentionally try to embarrass


            3              anyone unless, of course, you know, they


            4              didn't do something they were supposed to do


            5              like Tripp Park, you know, there were many


            6              things there that weren't done that should


            7              have been done, but it was done in a


            8              professional manner and I don't think we


            9              ever had any circus-like atmosphere with


           10              anybody that we have had at one of our


           11              caucuses.  So, I personally resented that


           12              comment and I was really hoping that Kenny


           13              would come here.  I know him a long time, I


           14              have nothing against him personally.  He is


           15              a very friendly personable guy, but, you


           16              know, we just wanted to ask some questions


           17              and I feel badly that he didn't come because


           18              it's just going to drag on, you know, the


           19              lawyers are going to be fighting it in Court


           20              and it will be probably a year from now


           21              before we even ever get an answer.


           22                      But I did have another question and


           23              maybe Mr. Minora can tell me if this is


           24              possible, is it possible to subpoena any of


           25              the workers in the office to appear here?  I






            1              know Mrs. Evans wanted them to come at one


            2              point and he would not allow them and I


            3              think when Mrs. Krake used to tell us about


            4              that people weren't paying their wage tax, I


            5              think she knew that probably from the


            6              workers, I'm not sure and I'm not quoting


            7              her, she didn't tell me that, but I know she


            8              is the union rep over there and maybe they


            9              told her, you know, we are not collecting


           10              enough of the taxes, etcetera, etcetera, so


           11              maybe we can have the workers or the clerks


           12              or whoever handles this account over there


           13              and maybe they know what happened.  I don't


           14              know, Amil, maybe you have to look into the


           15              possibility of that.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Or maybe perhaps rather


           17              than issuing a subpoena we could issue an


           18              invitation to come and discuss the matter.


           19                      MR. MINORA: Well, that would be


           20              fine.  I just, you know, because we have got


           21              litigation over this right now I would


           22              rather not give you an opinion here, we can


           23              talk in caucus about it.


           24                      MS. GATELLI: Would you look into


           25              this for us?






            1                      MR. MINORA: Sure.  Sure.  But, I


            2              don't see any problem with inviting somebody


            3              that would may be in a supervisory position


            4              that would know asking them to come and


            5              whether they do or not is another story, but


            6              certainly somebody voluntarily coming to a


            7              caucus is no problem at all that I could


            8              see.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Thank you, Amil. Let's


           10              see what else I have here.  Talking about


           11              Nay Aug Park, Mr. Davis seems to think


           12              that's done strictly for segregation


           13              reasons.  I don't believe that the Rec


           14              Authority, the mayor or any of the five of


           15              us would consider it that.  I'm going to


           16              speak for my colleagues on that because I


           17              know that's not their reason either.  We


           18              have no jurisdiction over Nay Aug.  It is


           19              the Recreation Authority that sets the fee


           20              at Nay Aug Park, however, I have contacted


           21              other places that do have slides and they


           22              all charge.  I really don't have a problem


           23              with charging at Nay Aug.  I don't think


           24              it's a segregation issue.  I have spoken to


           25              Mike Hanley at United Neighborhood Centers,






            1              he says it's not a problem.  They get passes


            2              to go on swim from the city and, you know,


            3              they have their share of times up at Nay


            4              Aug.


            5                      As far as continuing to talk about


            6              the fees for delinquent properties, I'm


            7              going to continue to say that I approve of


            8              the fees for the delinquent properties.  I


            9              worked here long enough to know that there


           10              are more landlords that don't pay their fees


           11              than there are single family homeowners.  No


           12              one in this city has lost their house.  I


           13              have helped several people that have called


           14              me and they were taken care of NCC, it was


           15              not a problem, so she can -- Mrs. Krake can


           16              keep up here every week and keep saying my


           17              name, you know, Ernie Preate used to say,


           18              "Just say the name, people won't remember if


           19              it's good or bad, they'll just keep


           20              remembering the name," but that's my reason


           21              about the delinquent taxes, the absentee


           22              landlords, so that's my response to that.


           23                   And 1101 Cedar Avenue, I called the


           24              realtor yesterday when I went by because


           25              it's totally overgrown right now.  I know






            1              Todd or Tess has a citation filed there, and


            2              I thought, well, let me call the realtor and


            3              see what's going on, so he called me right


            4              back and he said he would have the weeds


            5              cut.  He is working with someone that is


            6              interested in buying the property and we are


            7              going to give it another month or so and if


            8              not we are going to try to have it


            9              demolished and one of the neighbors is


           10              interested in purchasing the vacant land


           11              once it's demolished, so that's the update


           12              on 1101 Cedar Avenue, and I think that's all


           13              I have.  Thank you.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Gatelli.


           15              Mrs. Fanucci.


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I have the backup for


           17              Mrs. Schumacher on the Cartena Family wine


           18              owners, is that what you wanted 7-F for the


           19              loan for the winery?


           20                      MS. SCHUMACHER: No, 7-F, Fratelli's.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Oh, you wanted


           22              Fratelli's backup?  I had read that, I had


           23              read that like two weeks ago, but this of


           24              the one that I did not read so far so I


           25              thought this might be it, but I can get that






            1              for you before the end of the meeting about


            2              the backup for that, but I'm going to read


            3              this one now.  This is a loan, a working


            4              capital loan for $35,000 for the community


            5              grant project.  They are for a five-year


            6              term -- or for a ten-year term at 5 percent.


            7              The total project cost for this is $244,000


            8              and the owner equity and the financing have


            9              been invested, they are looking to improve


           10              the whole site, that's what this is about.


           11                      So the public benefit for this


           12              directly would be they are going to hire two


           13              full-time positions and do what they are


           14              expected to do through OECD and through HUD


           15              and what they are going to do is open a new


           16              warehouse for increased sales for wine


           17              which, you know, can't be a bad thing, but


           18              this project, and it is a very good project,


           19              they actually were in the -- they have a


           20              place in the Steamtown Mall and now they are


           21              going to be relocating to 999 Providence


           22              Road, so it's nice to see people who are


           23              actually increasing their business and


           24              creating new employment opportunities.


           25                      But I will get that other for you.






            1              I had read that two weeks ago actually when


            2              it first was on the agenda for Fratelli's


            3              for how much was the investment.


            4                      And, also, I wanted to send a letter


            5              to remind the administrative people in city


            6              hall to be sending us the call logs, for


            7              some reason we did receive them twice, maybe


            8              three times, but we are not receiving the


            9              weekly call logs of people, so if Kay could


           10              send a letter to remind them that I still


           11              would like to that to see what the concerns


           12              of the public are and to make sure that


           13              their calls are being answered and


           14              addressed.


           15                      Also, yeah, I wants to talk a little


           16              bit about people coming here.  Election is


           17              coming and I think, Amil, this might be


           18              something, I love to give you more work, but


           19              something that we need to look into.  I know


           20              there is a rule about election and face


           21              coverage for candidates and, you know, I


           22              have seen what happens to this forum during


           23              election time and I certainly would like to


           24              try to put a handle on that now if we can,


           25              maybe have some type of rule that, you know,






            1              if someone comes and they are a candidate


            2              and they are going to use this forum then


            3              what happens to the candidates who are not


            4              using this forum?  To me it shouldn't be


            5              used at all, but it seems to happen, so if


            6              we can look into what the rules are.


            7                      MR. MINORA: I can't, you know, quote


            8              it exactly, I mean, it's in our rules, but


            9              generally speaking they are not allowed to


           10              use this forum to promote a candidate,


           11              themselves or somebody else.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Right, but they come


           13              here under the premise of, you know, ECTV or


           14              whatever the issue of the week is and use


           15              it, so what I would like to do is see what


           16              we could do because I know equal face time


           17              is a problem.  You know, equal face time is


           18              something candidatewise whether you give


           19              someone five minutes and you are an elected


           20              official -- excuse me, are you guys okay out


           21              there?  Are you okay?  All right.  Thank


           22              you.  I know that if there is a problem if


           23              someone does get to have five minutes then


           24              another candidate is still owed five


           25              minutes, whether it's on their agenda or on






            1              some other topic so we need to look into


            2              that if we can.


            3                      MR.  MINORA: I'll take a look a


            4              that.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: And if not I'd like to


            6              adopt something, I'd like to put something


            7              here in our rules because I'm not going


            8              through the election cycle like we have been


            9              gone through in the past nor should the


           10              viewers have to put up with five-minute free


           11              commercials for whatever the issue of the


           12              day is for a candidates.


           13                      MR. MINORA: Let me take a look at


           14              it.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Thank you, and that is


           16              all I have.  I'm going to see if I can get


           17              that information for Mrs. Schumacher now


           18              that she is over her giggling.  It's fun,


           19              isn't it, to giggle?  Thank you.  That's all


           20              I have.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           22              Mr. Courtright.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.  Last week I


           24              got the full support as council in sending a


           25              letter to Dave Elliott asking about the






            1              manning of the shifts.  We sent a letter


            2              out, I had asked to have it to us by this


            3              meeting, but we did not receive a response


            4              yet and I'm hoping that after I get done


            5              speaking I'll get the full support of this


            6              council again.  I'm going to explain what's


            7              happening to the best of my ability.  Did


            8              they cut the number of men on the police


            9              department?  No, they haven't.  What has


           10              happened is with the ruling and their


           11              implementing portions of the Recovery Plan


           12              we don't have nearly as many people on the


           13              streets as we had before.


           14                      My initial reason for bringing it up


           15              last week is because of the calls I


           16              received, and I put it in the letter to Dave


           17              Elliott there were various people, and I'll


           18              say generally who they were.  One was from


           19              an individual whose family member worked in


           20              the COM Center 911, some from police


           21              officers and some from people that listened


           22              to scanners.  There is many, many people


           23              that listen to scanners and you can hear


           24              what goes on the air, and that's why I


           25              brought it up last week.






            1                      This week, Sunday, I don't know,


            2              somewhere about 3:30 in-between 3 and 5 I


            3              got a phone call asking me do I realize how


            4              low the manning was on that shift?


            5                      I said, "No, I hadn't."


            6                      Are you listening to the air?"


            7                      I said, "No, I'm not."


            8                      "We think you should listen to


            9              what's going on."


           10                      I was busy doing something, digging


           11              a hole in my yard actually, so I didn't


           12              listen, I come back in I got another call.


           13              The same thing, "Are you listening?"


           14                      So I started to listen and one car


           15              took anywhere in the neighborhood of 8 to 12


           16              calls, one guy within a two-hour period, so


           17              I went to my school yesterday morning and


           18              there was a note stuck in my door and it was


           19              basically what the staffing was on that


           20              Sunday evening on the second shift.  I went


           21              into Ray Hayes' office yesterday morning,


           22              Ray wasn't there, his secretary wasn't


           23              there, so I called and I left a message on


           24              his machine explaining to him what I was


           25              concerned about and asked him if he could






            1              look into it I haven't heard back from him


            2              yet.


            3                      Here's is the staffing as I know it,


            4              this isn't gospel because I don't have the


            5              official thing, but I believe this is true


            6              from what I heard from my own ears this is


            7              what I believe is true.  Central city, there


            8              the option in the past we have C-1, C-2,


            9              C-3.  Central city had only one central city


           10              car, C-1, but that car was pulled from


           11              working central city from 1500 hours to


           12              2100 hours or basically it would be from


           13              3:00 to 9:00 there was no cars covering


           14              central city -- North Scranton, North 1,


           15              North 2, North 3, we had no North 1 or North


           16              2, I believe, we had one car North 3, number


           17              three car, that's the guy that I heard


           18              getting run all over the town.


           19                      Greenridge there could be a


           20              Greenridge 1 and 2, there was no Greendrige


           21              1 and 2 there was just one Greenridge car.


           22              There was people scheduled throughout the


           23              day at the crime scene, different hours.


           24              South Side there could be a South 1, South


           25              2, South 3.  There was a South -- there was






            1              two South cars not three South cars.


            2                      West Scranton there could be a West


            3              1 and West 2 and West 3, there was no West


            4              1, there was no West 2, there was a car


            5              assigned to West 3, he was pulled also from


            6              3:00 until 9:00 so there was no cars


            7              covering West Scranton.


            8                      We had one man manning Car 18 which


            9              is the transport vehicle which transports


           10              the prisoners, does the booking or whatever


           11              you want to call it.  We had no Car 19,


           12              which isn't uncommon which would be a second


           13              transport vehicle.  We had one man on the


           14              desk.  We had only one supervisor as a


           15              command car, it was a sergeant.  We had only


           16              one corporal on the scene, so technically,


           17              and you can spin this anyway you want and I


           18              would imagine when they come back with their


           19              answer to me it's going to sound different


           20              than what I'm telling you, but this is the


           21              way it is, people, believe me when I tell


           22              you, I'm not lying about this, technically


           23              between those hours we had four people


           24              manning the entire City of Scranton because


           25              they don't want to pay overtime.






            1                      MS. GATELLI: Why do they have to pay


            2              overtime?  Where are the on-duty guys that


            3              we have?


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: They have two guys


            5              pulled and assigned to St. Ann's, which in


            6              the past they used to get comp time, all


            7              right, if you go to St. Ann's during the


            8              Novena.  Maybe people called in sick, it's


            9              summertime, we have people on vacation, all


           10              right?  So, for whatever reason there wasn't


           11              enough people to man the shifts.  In the


           12              past what would happen when that would


           13              happen you would call overtime.


           14                      Now, I looked, I believe, I don't


           15              have the paper in front of me, Sue had


           16              gotten the information for me, last year the


           17              police department budgeted $115,000 for


           18              overtime, all right?  Now, the Recovery Plan


           19              allows them to do what they want with the


           20              manning.  Say, for instance, they didn't do


           21              any overtime at all in the City of Scranton,


           22              that would be an impossibility, you are


           23              going to have overtime, there is just no way


           24              around it, but I'm looking at this, is it


           25              worth either a police officer or a citizen






            1              or anybody getting injured or killed or


            2              whatever even if we were to save $115,000?


            3              I think not.


            4                      I mean, we spend money on everything


            5              in this city.  Public safety, you know,


            6              there is a gentleman that was a well,


            7              well-respected police officer, he was


            8              retired and everyone up here I think knows


            9              him, I don't want to say his name because he


           10              is a humble man and he had said to me during


           11              the last election public safety had come up,


           12              you know, it was a little bit of a political


           13              football there and there was a shooting over


           14              in front of West Scranton High School and at


           15              that time this guy had said to me, he was


           16              retired at the time, also, he said, you


           17              know, you can't put a price tag on public


           18              safety, and agree with him.


           19                      So, if the reasons for not manning


           20              these shifts the way they should be manned


           21              is potentially we could save $115,000 I


           22              would ask that everyone on this council


           23              agree with me that that's not the way to go.


           24              Someone is going to get hurt.  It might not


           25              be for a month or maybe a year or two years,






            1              but I don't want one of my family members


            2              hurt and I don't want a police officer hurt


            3              and not only that if you know anything about


            4              that job you can only run from call to call


            5              for so long before you are going to burn


            6              out, right?  You are going to burn out and


            7              you are going to be short-tempered possibly


            8              with the people who you are responding to


            9              their calls or when you respond to the call


           10              and it's taking a long period of time for


           11              you to get, there was an incident at


           12              Walgreen's and Main Avenue on Luzerne Street


           13              in West Scranton and the guy was disorderly


           14              and he was harassing people, he was


           15              harassing cars going by, by the time we can


           16              get a guy there, which is my one man that


           17              ran all over the place, he was in the store


           18              now causing problems, and then one man goes


           19              to the call.  On a call like that you need


           20              to send two people, maybe sometimes more.


           21              You don't know if he has a weapon, but


           22              there's is a whole host of things and, you


           23              know, I got labeled as -- what did they call


           24              me during that election everybody?  The


           25              Crime Czar or something because they said I






            1              was trying to scare people.  I'm not trying


            2              to scare people.


            3                      And if Ray Hayes and Dave Elliott


            4              have an answer for me that's different than


            5              this, I'm certain they are willing to look


            6              at it, but I believe in my heart this is


            7              what's happening and it's happening more


            8              often than not.


            9                      MS. GATELLI: Well, I wish you would


           10              find out why there is only four people on?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, they are going


           12              to tell me and here's what they are going to


           13              tell me, well, you have a command car he is


           14              answering calls, okay, so let the command


           15              car and you got East Six he is answering


           16              calls, okay, I'll even give them that.  I'll


           17              give them there supervisor is answering the


           18              call, so now you got six.  Does anybody in


           19              this city think that six police officers can


           20              man a shift I think not.  I think not.  It's


           21              wrong and it's solely for saving money and,


           22              again, we budget and I'm hoping I'm correct,


           23              I believe it was $115,000 last year.  If the


           24              reason is to try and save the $115,000 which


           25              is an impossibility, we will never save all






            1              of the overtime, if that's the reason then I


            2              would ask does anyone on this council agree


            3              that we should cut this minimal amount of


            4              people for $115,000?


            5                      MS. GATELLI: No.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Right, and I'm glad


            7              you agree with me and there is extenuating


            8              circumstances that happen all the time.


            9              Sometimes they will need to send somebody to


           10              transport a prisoner, say from Hazleton, so


           11              you got two guys tied up on the dayshift,


           12              all right, and it used to be daytime didn't


           13              get the calls that they get now, if any of


           14              you have an opportunity to stand next to a


           15              police officer or if you know somebody who


           16              has a scanner take a listen and listen to


           17              how many times the COM Center will say, I


           18              think they must have been told not to say


           19              this anymore because they were saying


           20              something different, "Command car, we got


           21              three calls hanging.  We got no cars


           22              available.  Command car, we got an assault


           23              in progress, we have no cars available."


           24                      Now, you will hear them say quite a


           25              bit of times, I think they might have been






            1              told about it, "Command car, could you call


            2              in?"


            3                      And many a times when that command


            4              car is calling in it's still we got calls


            5              hanging and no one to respond.  So it's not


            6              scare tactics.  Listen for yourself.  Ask a


            7              police officer for yourself, but, again, I


            8              believe this is accurate what was given to


            9              me and it's wrong and I will wait, you know,


           10              I'm sure Ray will get to me, I'll give you


           11              that, he has always come back to me whenever


           12              I ask him a question and I will ask him to


           13              look at this specific one and when we get


           14              the response from Dave Elliott we asked for


           15              part of last week and the week prior all of


           16              the shifts and who is manning them and try


           17              to get this squared away and I just I think


           18              money shouldn't be the issue, and again,


           19              maybe it can go on for a year or two years


           20              and no one get hurt, sooner or later


           21              something is going to happen and we are


           22              going to have officer burn out, we're going


           23              to have people frustrated because it's


           24              taking so long to get to a call and it's


           25              just simply not right, so I ask this council






            1              now do I have your full support from


            2              everyone here, I would like to have


            3              everybody's support to pursue this.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: Absolutely.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Is there anybody


            6              that would disagree with me pursuing this?


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  No.


            8                      MS. GATELLI: I just want to know


            9              where the 150 policemen are?


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Like I said, it's


           11              per shift and if you got people on special


           12              assignment such as --


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Maybe we can get a


           14              list of that, too.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, I have it.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  How many are available


           17              for each shift.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Right.  There is the


           19              same amount available that were available in


           20              the past, but in the past if somebody called


           21              in sick, in the past if we had people on


           22              vacation because of the manning clause they


           23              would have to be replaced.  Now because they


           24              don't have to follow the manning clause they


           25              don't have to replace anyone if they don't






            1              want to and that's what's happening.  They


            2              are not replacing people that are on


            3              vacation, calling in sick, on special


            4              assignment, whatever the case may be.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: But, you are talking


            6              ten cops calling in sick.  You know what I


            7              mean?  That's what I'm trying to say, that's


            8              a heck of a lot of --


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  And keep this in


           10              mind, so we have no central city car from 3


           11              to 9, we had one north car all night long,


           12              we had one Greenridge car all night long, we


           13              had two south cars all night long, we had no


           14              west cast from three to nine, we had one guy


           15              on Car 18, we had one guy on the desk, we


           16              had one sergeant, we had one corporal.  And


           17              that one sergeant and one corporal is even


           18              unusual, you know, if a major incident


           19              happens that command car has to be there, he


           20              has to be controlling the situation.  If we


           21              had a fire what we would have done if we had


           22              a major fire?  It would take more than four


           23              cars just to block off the streets, you


           24              know, which brings me to another problem.  I


           25              think the police department should have keys






            1              to the DPW to go and pick up barricades.


            2              When we have a fire we have cars tied up


            3              blocking streets because we can't get


            4              barricades, but anyway --


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Do you know if that


            6              qualifies, if you're on a disability they


            7              don't use that as, okay, well, you are done


            8              and now we are not filling your person?


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No, it's the shift,


           10              they are not filling the shift itself.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: It's the shift itself.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And I'm not saying


           13              every shift, but it's happening too


           14              frequently, and it really shouldn't happen


           15              at all.  I understand if you are from a


           16              management standpoint that you maybe have


           17              one guy off or two guys off maybe saying,


           18              hey, we are going to try to squeeze by with


           19              that, but this is to the extreme.  This is


           20              way to many, way to many.


           21                      And sorry I took so long for all of


           22              that, but I think it's an important issue.


           23                      MS. GATELLI: That's okay.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And then that


           25              gentleman, I forget his name, was it Gilory






            1              from Townhouse, right?  I had just been


            2              given this this morning when I came in from


            3              Sue, Mark Seitzinger had been out there last


            4              year and had told them down there that on


            5              dumpsters they do have to have lids on them


            6              and if they are concerned about the children


            7              crawling inside or whatever that they should


            8              put locks on the dumpsters so that children


            9              can't crawl inside.  So we are trying to


           10              help this gentleman out, I know it's not as


           11              fast as he would like us to, and maybe, Kay,


           12              you could call over there and ask Carrie


           13              Yacavazzi if she will meet with a couple of


           14              us and we can try to get this straightened


           15              out.  I think she will cooperate.  She is


           16              not a hard person to deal with it.


           17                      MS. GATELLI: She used to be at


           18              Skyview, too.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Right, they do have


           20              police officers there and she gave me the


           21              times and the days and the guys, I didn't


           22              write it down, but I'm sure she will


           23              cooperate and try to get it squared away,


           24              and that's all I have.  Thank you.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr.






            1              Courtright.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Mr. McGoff, I did get


            3              that information for Mrs. Schumacher if I


            4              could just tell her quickly.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Go right ahead.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: The total project cost


            7              for Fratelli's Pizza is $500,000.  That's


            8              how much it is for acquisition of the


            9              building.  They are actually buying the


           10              building in which they are in now, so they


           11              are only borrowing 120, so that is -- that


           12              does qualify for the two for one, and the


           13              benefits will be four full-time equivalent


           14              positions.  That is all.  Thank you.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: A couple of responses.


           16              First, as far as Mr. McDowell appearing and


           17              the lawsuit that received, I know we


           18              shouldn't talk about this, but I think on


           19              behalf of council that all we were looking


           20              for was to gather some information.  I think


           21              maybe the term investigation is misleading


           22              to some, this was by no means an attempt on


           23              our part to embarrass, to demean


           24              Mr. McDowell in any way.  People have a


           25              right to information about things that took






            1              place while he was tax collector and that is


            2              all we wanted to do, and I think it's


            3              unfortunate that it was not per received in


            4              this way and I think it's unfortunate that


            5              people will wait and wait and wait to get


            6              what at least I thought was some simple


            7              answers to some simple questions.


            8                      One of the pieces of legislation


            9              that we are looking at today is a repeal of


           10              the city smoking ban, that was done I think


           11              with the agreement of all of us simply


           12              because the state smoking ban was due to


           13              take effect on, and I think the correct date


           14              is August -- or, excuse me, September 13th


           15              of 2008 and our -- if our ban were still on


           16              the books then there was a question as to


           17              whether ours would become effective because


           18              of the exemptions that were placed into the


           19              state law at Senator Mellow's request and


           20              what we didn't want to have happen was again


           21              have a conflict between what the city was


           22              doing and what the state was doing and


           23              resurrect some of the problems that had


           24              existed prior and so we are hopefully


           25              repealing the citywide ban and then when the






            1              state law becomes effective in August --


            2              excuse me, again, in September then the city


            3              will then be able to abide by the statewide


            4              ban and create an equal, as was used before,


            5              an equal playing field throughout the area


            6              as far as a smoking ban is concerned.


            7                      I would, and this might be my first


            8              going back, I would like to make a request


            9              of the Single Tax Office as well on behalf


           10              of council, I would like to send a letter


           11              asking, and I'll also phone, I'd like to


           12              have balance statements on the account in


           13              which the $12 million was deposited, balance


           14              statements from, and you can correct me on


           15              the dates if possible, from December 31,


           16              2004, which I think is when deposits were


           17              first begun, somewhere around there, up


           18              until and including June 1st of 2008.  I


           19              would just like to see the amounts of money


           20              that were being deposited into that specific


           21              account and the interest and the manner in


           22              which it did accumulate over the course of


           23              that time.


           24                      Next, I'm going to disagree with


           25              Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. Spindler and possibly






            1              Mrs. Fanucci on the ideas of some people


            2              appearing before council.  I answered


            3              Mr. Spindler by saying, no, I don't perceive


            4              some people as being better than others, but


            5              I do think that certain elected officials


            6              and certain speakers because of their


            7              status, and I'll refer to Mr. Munchak when


            8              he appeared, because of their status as an


            9              elected official it does creates a different


           10              situation and I think that with some


           11              discretion those people should be allowed an


           12              opportunity to speak perhaps longer than


           13              someone else.  And I know that that wasn't,


           14              you know, what Mrs. Fanucci is speaking of


           15              today on idea of candidates appearing, I do


           16              see that as a potential problem and


           17              something that we should look into and setup


           18              some guidelines for dealing with that.  It's


           19              never done with the idea of being


           20              discriminatory, at least from my part it was


           21              never done with the idea of being


           22              discriminatory or showing favoritism to one


           23              person or another, it was simply a situation


           24              that I felt required an exemption sometimes.


           25                      And the last thing, dealing with Nay






            1              Aug park I do agree with Mr. Quinn, I think


            2              it would be a sad situation if I felt people


            3              were being denied access to Nay Aug pool in


            4              some discriminatory way, however, I don't


            5              believe that it is any type of racial


            6              motivation.  Mr. Dobson made the point that


            7              it was more of an economic issue than it was


            8              a racial issue and I believe that and I


            9              think people who are trying to equate


           10              socioeconomic status and race are the ones


           11              that are being prejudicial and


           12              discriminatory.  Again, as Mrs. Gatelli


           13              said.  Many communities charge for all


           14              public swimming.  The fact that we had


           15              charged for public swimming at one of our


           16              pools I don't think is an attempt to


           17              discriminate against any particular race or


           18              creed or anything else.  I think it's just a


           19              status of the nature of Nay Aug pool as


           20              being different than the other community


           21              pools and hopefully it's not, and I don't


           22              believe it is, again, we have said I don't


           23              think it's any attempt to be or there is no


           24              racial motivation of any kind in charging a


           25              fee at Nay Aug, and that is all I have.






            1              Thank you.  Mrs. Garvey.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR




            4              OF COUNCIL NO. 64, 2006, (AS AMENDED), AN




            6              OF SCRANTON, LACKAWANNA COUNTY,










           11              AN EFFECTIVE DATE" DUE TO THE PASSAGE OF ACT


           12              27 OF 2008 BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE


           13              COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I will


           15              enter a motion that Item 5-B be introduced


           16              into it's proper committee.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           20              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           21                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The






            1              ayes have it and so moved.


            2                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -






            5              ("HARB") AND APPROVING THE CERTIFICATE OF


            6              APPROPRIATENESS FOR HEMMLER + CAMAYD, 409






            9              OF LOUVER SCREENING AT THE REAR OF THE


           10              ESTATE BUILDING AT THE UNIVERSITY OF


           11              SCRANTON, MONROE AVENUE AND RIDGE ROW,


           12              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           14              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


           15              introduced into it's proper committee.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           19              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           20                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           22                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           25              ayes have it and so moved.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A.


            2              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 34,


            3              2008 - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF


            4              COUNCIL 131 OF 2007 ENTITLED "SALE OF TAX




            6              STREET, ALSO DESCRIBED AS LOT NO. 134,


            7              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, TO KEVIN AND


            8              FRANCINE FITZGERALD, 309 BATLUCK STREET,


            9              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA, 18505, FOR THE SUM


           10              OF $1,357.00" TO CORRECTLY IDENTIFY PROPERTY


           11              INFORMATION AS LOT NO. 152, MAP NO.


           12              15719-030-047.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading


           14              by Title of 6-A, what is your pleasure?


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I move that Item


           16              6-A pass Reading by Title.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           19              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           20                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           22                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           25              ayes have it and so moved.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A. FOR




            3              DEVELOPMENT - FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL


            4              NO. 31, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND










            9              THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN OF THE


           10              LACKAWANNA RIVER HERITAGE TRAIL TO BE


           11              LOCATED ON THE TRAIL AREA.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           13              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           14              Committee on Community Development?


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           16              Committee on Community Development, I


           17              recommend final passage of Item 7-A.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


           20              call, please.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           22                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           24                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            6              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


            7                      MS. EVANS: President McGoff, before


            8              the next item is he read I move to amend


            9              Item 7-B to strike "Public Access Channel 61


           10              and 62" and to add in place of this phrase,


           11              "Any and all peg channels."


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second?


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question.


           14                      MS. EVANS: The reason for this


           15              amendment is that it is unlikely that the


           16              peg channels will remain as specifically


           17              Channels 61 and 62 through Comcast.  In


           18              other words, those channel numbers can be


           19              changed once, perhaps many times, and so in


           20              order to provide for those future


           21              alterations we are amending the motion.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  All those in favor


           23              signify by saying aye.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            4              ayes have it and so moved.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION


            6              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


            7              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 32, 2008 - CREATING AN








           11              TELEVISION ("ECTV") THROUGH THE COMCAST


           12              CABLE SYSTEM.


           13                      MS. GATELLI: Say to include all peg


           14              channels.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: To include all peg


           16              channels.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           18              call, please.


           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           20                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           22                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            4              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C.  FOR CONSIDERATION


            6              BY THE COMMITTEE ON FINANCE - FOR ADOPTION -


            7              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 33, 2008 - AMENDING FILE


            8              OF COUNCIL NO. 140, 2007, AN ORDINANCE




           10              2008" BY TRANSFERRING $50,000.00 FROM


           11              ACCOUNT NO. 01.080.0081.4010 (STANDARD






           14              TO PENNONI ASSOCIATES.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           16              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           17              Committee on Finance?


           18                      MS. GATELLI:  As Chair for Finance,


           19              I recommend final passage of 7-C.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


           22              call, please.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.






            1                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            8              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 7-D. FOR CONSIDERATION


           10              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           11              RESOLUTION NO. 44, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE




           13              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH


           14              KNOWLES ASSOCIATES, L.L.C., FOR INSURANCE




           16              EXCHANGE (HARIE), INDIAN HARBOR,






           19              COVERAGES FOR THE PERIOD JANUARY 1, 2008,


           20              THROUGH JANUARY 1, 2009, AND TO RATIFY ANY




           22              THE EXPIRATION OF THE PRIOR INSURANCE


           23              CONTRACT.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the


           25              Committee on Rules, I recommend final






            1              passage of Item 7-D.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


            4              call, please.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            6                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            8                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            9                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           11                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           15              Item 7-D legally and lawfully adopted.


           16                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR CONSIDERATION


           17              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           18              RESOLUTION NO. 45, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE




           20              TO EXECUTE AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT WITH


           21              KNOWLES ASSOCIATES, L.L.C. FOR INSURANCE




           23              INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR THE PERIOD JUNE 12,


           24              2008 THROUGH JUNE 12, 2009.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the






            1              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


            2              passage of Item 7-E.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


            5              call, please.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            7                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            9                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           16              Item 7-E legally and lawfully adopted.


           17                      MS. GARVEY: 7-F. FOR CONSIDERATION




           19              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 46, 2008 -






           22              ENTER INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT AND MAKE A LOAN




           24              LOAN PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 008.500.3 IN AN


           25              AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $120,000.00 TO






            1              FRATELLI'S PIZZA & PASTA HOUSE, INC. TO


            2              ASSIST AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            4              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            5              Committee on Community Development?


            6                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


            7              Committee on Community Development, I


            8              recommend final passage of Item 7-F.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           11              call, please.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           15                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           22              Item 7-F legally and lawfully adopted.


           23                      MS. GARVEY: 7-G. FOR CONSIDERATION




           25              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 47, 2008 -










            3              ENTER INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT AND MAKE A LOAN




            5              PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 08-150.18 IN AN AMOUNT


            6              NOT TO EXCEED $35,000.00 TO CARTEGNA FAMILY


            7              WINES LLC TO ASSIST AN ELIGIBLE PROJECT.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  What is the


            9              recommendation of the Chairperson for


           10              Committee on Community Development?


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           12              Committee on Community Development, I


           13              recommend final passage of Item 7-G.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           16              call, please.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           18                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           20                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            2              Item 7-G legally and lawfully adopted.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: 7-H. FOR CONSIDERATION




            5              FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 48, 2008 -






            8              ENTER INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT AND MAKE A LOAN




           10              LOAN PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 08-150.17 IN AN


           11              AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $60,000.00 TO IT'S


           12              OUTRAGEOUS, LLC TO ASSIST AN ELIGIBLE


           13              PROJECT.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           15              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           16              Committee on Community Development?


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the


           18              Committee on Community Development, I


           19              recommend final passage of Item 7-H.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           22              call, please.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           24                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.






            1                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            8              Item 7-H legally and lawfully adopted.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 7-I FOR CONSIDERATION BY


           10              THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


           11              RESOLUTION NO. 49 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE






           14              SERVICES WITH DANIEL L. PENETAR, JR.,




           16              OF TWO (2) YEARS FROM JULY 1, 2008 THROUGH


           17              JULY 1, 2010.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the


           19              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           20              passage of Item 7-I.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           23              call, please.


           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.






            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            2                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            9              Item 7-I legally and lawfully adopted.


           10                      MS. GATELLI: Before we adjourn I'd


           11              just like to say one thing, that I hope


           12              everyone noticed that we all voted five to


           13              nothing on every ordinance that passed


           14              before us today.  And I also would like to


           15              welcome the new reporter from the Scranton


           16              Times, Jeremy Burton, he has replaced Stacy


           17              Brown and we would like to welcome Jeremy


           18              and congratulate Stacy on his new


           19              appointment to the Lifestyles editor at the


           20              Scranton Times.  I just forgot before.  A


           21              motion to adjourn.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you for your


           24              participation.












            3                     C E R T I F I C A T E




            5        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            6   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            7   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            8   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            9   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


           10   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

           14                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER