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            1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7                   Tuesday, July 8, 2008

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                    Council Chambers

 

           11                 Scranton City Hall

 

           12              340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR - OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

 

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK (NOT PRESENT)

 

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                MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR (NOT PRESENT)

 

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                MR. JOHN WILLIAMS, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR

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            1   (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of reflection

 

            2   observed.)

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please.

 

            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.

 

            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.

 

           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with

 

           14              the reading of the minutes, and just for the

 

           15              record, City Clerk, Kay Garvey, is not with

 

           16              us today and also Attorney John Williams is

 

           17              acting as solicitor in the absence of

 

           18              Attorney Minora.  Third Order.

 

           19                      MR. WILLIAMS: THREE.  REPORTS AND

 

           20              COMMUNICATIONS WITH MAYOR AND HEADS OF

 

           21              DEPARTMENTS AND INTERESTED PARTIES AND CITY

 

           22              CLERK'S NOTES:  NO BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Any

 

           24              announcements?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  The Lackawanna


 

 

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            1              County Taxpayers' Association will sponsor a

 

            2              day of free swimming at Nay Aug Park Swim

 

            3              Complex on Wednesday, July 9, for Sister

 

            4              Adrian Barrett's group of children Friends

 

            5              of the Poor, and on Saturday and Sunday July

 

            6              12 and 13 from 12 to 6 p.m. for all children

 

            7              15 years of change and under.  Mr. Bill

 

            8              Jackowitz and Mr. Andy Sbaraglia have

 

            9              generously spearheaded the Kids Swim Free

 

           10              Program each year.  Checks can be made

 

           11              payable to "Kids Swim Free" and all

 

           12              donations can be mailed to Mr. William

 

           13              Jackowitz, 1416 South Webster Avenue,

 

           14              Scranton, PA, 18505.  Please help this

 

           15              worthy cause.  And I hope the children of

 

           16              Scranton will enjoy a wonderful weekend of

 

           17              free swimming.

 

           18                      Also, on Sunday, July 13, St. Peter

 

           19              and Paul Russian Orthodox church will

 

           20              sponsor a chicken barbecue from 12 to 2.

 

           21              It's one of the best summer dinners in our

 

           22              area and takeouts will also be available.

 

           23                   On Saturday, July 26, there will be a

 

           24              benefit for Kelly Osborne from 1 to 6 p.m.

 

           25              at the Minooka Legion.  Kelly, a graduate of


 

 

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            1              Scranton high school and a wonderful young

 

            2              woman, is in need of our help to pay for

 

            3              serious medical expenses.  Tickets are $10

 

            4              and can be purchased at the door or from

 

            5              members of the Minooka Lion's Club.  Please

 

            6              come out and help Kelly and her family on

 

            7              Saturday, July 26.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: One more item, I'm sorry.

 

           10              I announced this last week, but there is an

 

           11              update on this, in regards to the 2004

 

           12              Windstar van that Mr. Allen Rubenstein would

 

           13              like to donate to a local nonprofit.  The

 

           14              transmission work will not be necessary.

 

           15              I'm going to provide that for the vehicle,

 

           16              so if there is any nonprofit who is in need

 

           17              of transportation please contact the office

 

           18              of city council for the donation of a 2004

 

           19              Ford Windstar van.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Citizens'

 

           21              participation.  Andy Sbaraglia.

 

           22                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

 

           23              citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians,

 

           24              somebody dropped off I guess it was a report

 

           25              probably from the federal government on


 

 

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            1              Daron Industries up there, which I read, but

 

            2              there was one glaring oversight in that

 

            3              whole piece of I guess you could call it

 

            4              legislation, well, it wasn't legislation,

 

            5              but results of their findings, one was there

 

            6              was no long-term soil samples taken for the

 

            7              length that business has been up there or

 

            8              there was no long-term air quality given to

 

            9              this project up there at all when the

 

           10              complaints came in, that's the first thing

 

           11              that should have been done.  They should

 

           12              have had air quality monitoring and they

 

           13              should have had soil monitoring and the

 

           14              report also states that if you get cancer it

 

           15              takes from 10 to 20 years for it to occur

 

           16              with this type of pollution, so somewhere

 

           17              along the line that site should be monitored

 

           18              after Daron leaves in 2008 to make sure that

 

           19              there is no contamination to the soil or to

 

           20              the surrounding soil around that site.

 

           21              That's important to the people that live

 

           22              there.  It's, unfortunate if you want to

 

           23              protect your children.

 

           24                       If it was my child I would be out

 

           25              there getting somebody to give me some kind


 

 

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            1              of an air monitoring system that's approved

 

            2              and every piece of dust that fell on my car,

 

            3              on my window sill, would be placed in an

 

            4              envelope and marked when it is so you have

 

            5              something to fall back on 10 or 20 years

 

            6              from now when people in that area may be

 

            7              getting cancer or may not be getting cancer,

 

            8              but at least you have some evidence that

 

            9              went on at that site.

 

           10                      Okay, your "C", 5-C.  It has to do

 

           11              with you appointing an advisory capacity.

 

           12              Now, if I'm wrong don't we have a cable

 

           13              advisory board somewhere along the line

 

           14              which Mr. Spano held?  How come that's not

 

           15              brought in at all?  They wanted to --

 

           16              actually, they were cut out of the whole

 

           17              deal.  I remember Mr. Spano saying when you

 

           18              want to look for this new TV station to read

 

           19              these proposals that they wanted to be

 

           20              involved in it, but they weren't.  This is

 

           21              Doherty's TV station.  He is going to give

 

           22              them the money, he is going to do whatever

 

           23              it takes to get that station up.  Why?  I

 

           24              don't know why, maybe he has political

 

           25              ambitions.  What better way to propose your


 

 

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            1              political ambitions other than having your

 

            2              own TV station putting up the skill, but

 

            3              that's going to happen.

 

            4                      Okay, I'm not going to get into the

 

            5              $90,000 because I think that's a done deal.

 

            6              I think it was a done deal when Mr. Doherty

 

            7              says, "I'm looking for someone else to

 

            8              provide TV service.  I believe it was a done

 

            9              deal then, I believe it's a done deal now,

 

           10              and nothing that happened afterwards changed

 

           11              my mind.  In fact, it's certain.  With the

 

           12              $10,000 what went up around and back again

 

           13              or this other $90,000, this is Doherty TV

 

           14              station is he going to use it for political

 

           15              spiel more than anything else.  He don't

 

           16              like the negatives and this city is full of

 

           17              negatives, not that we want to be negative,

 

           18              we love this city, we wouldn't be here.

 

           19                      I lived here all my life, I never

 

           20              wanted to live anywhere else.  I love

 

           21              Scranton, I love the hills, I love the area

 

           22              and I love the people, but I don't like to

 

           23              see what's happening to the people.  You are

 

           24              driving them out of their homes.

 

           25                      You don't even know what to look


 

 

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            1              forward to when these people have to pay

 

            2              $4.00 or $4.50 a gallon for oil.  They use

 

            3              about 1,000 gallons of oil in the heat

 

            4              assistance I guess in this area, that's like

 

            5              four to 5,000 bucks.  A lot of elderly

 

            6              aren't going to be able to do it, but you

 

            7              already made it so when that happens they

 

            8              lose their home because we already got all

 

            9              of these other penalties that's going to be

 

           10              pushed on them and you don't believe this

 

           11              was contrived?

 

           12                      I don't know.  I believe you follow

 

           13              the dots.  They used to say follow the money

 

           14              trail, I say follow the dots.  People know

 

           15              what's going to happen, I knew what was

 

           16              going to happen so they knew what was going

 

           17              to happen.  When you sold off them

 

           18              delinquent notes all the way along the line

 

           19              you knew a lot of people were going to

 

           20              suffer, but you care little about it.  You

 

           21              did it anyway.  So it's going to fall in and

 

           22              I don't know what's going to happen to those

 

           23              people, especially what's happening down in

 

           24              Wilkes-Barre even with taxes.  The taxes are

 

           25              going sky high down in Luzerne County and if


 

 

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            1              you follow what happened and they are the

 

            2              same people that did Scranton.  I thank you

 

            3              very much.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

            5              Mr. Sbaraglia.  Ozzie Quinn.

 

            6                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'

 

            7              Association.  Thank you.  Mrs. Evans, I

 

            8              wanted to thank you for that donation and

 

            9              anybody else that gave a donation to the

 

           10              Kids Swim for Free, I know that Mrs. Evans

 

           11              just gave it that's why I noted her

 

           12              contribution and I do want to mention the

 

           13              fact that I appreciate you announcing those

 

           14              dates, but if you didn't get it you can go

 

           15              to ScrantonTaxpayers.org and you can get the

 

           16              address from there, okay?

 

           17                      Now, I just want to mention the

 

           18              facts that we are talking about, I read this

 

           19              morning about the Recovery Plan and about

 

           20              the mayor is going to cut jobs and so on,

 

           21              now, let's not fool ourselves, this mayor is

 

           22              circumventing what's going on here.  I have

 

           23              here for the Sewer Authority they have over

 

           24              $1 million in salaries put on their since

 

           25              Mayor Doherty has taken office.  For


 

 

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            1              instance, the managers, top manager is

 

            2              82,640.  Next, 70,000, 59,000, 59,000,

 

            3              59,000, 40,000, 48,000.  This one is a

 

            4              school board director, 47,500.  39,000.

 

            5              38,000.  Chief plant operator, 46,000, I'm

 

            6              rounding them out.  Pool system capacity

 

            7              technician, 48,000.  Master electrician,

 

            8              42,000.  Senior laboratory technician,

 

            9              41,000.  Assistant plant operator/utility

 

           10              operator, 41,000.  Equipment operator,

 

           11              41,000.  Equipment operator, 41,000.

 

           12              Operator A, 41,000.  Laborer, 40,000.

 

           13              Senior laboratory techniques, 40,000.

 

           14              Vehicle mechanic, 40,000.  Chief cashier,

 

           15              40,000.  Assistant plant operator, utility

 

           16              operator, 38,000.  Equipment operator

 

           17              collection line, 38,000.  Equipment operator

 

           18              collection line, 38,000.  Equipment operator

 

           19              "B", 38,000.  Laboratory assistance, 38,000.

 

           20              Laborer, 38,000.  Laborer, 38,000.

 

           21              Assistant chief cashier, and I believe this

 

           22              one is the school board's wife or sister,

 

           23              38,000.  Groundskeeper/inventory clerk,

 

           24              37,000.  Laborer, 37,000.  Laborer, 37,000.

 

           25              Laborer, 37,000.  Laborer, 37,000.  Janitor


 

 

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            1              36,000.  Laborer, 36,000.  Laborer, 46,000.

 

            2              Laborer, 46,000.  Laborer, 36,000.  Laborer

 

            3              and collection line, 36,000.  Labor and

 

            4              collection line, 37,000.  Assistant vehicle

 

            5              mechanic, 37,000.  Lab assistant, 36.000.

 

            6              Laborer, 36,000.  Laborer, 36,000.

 

            7                      You know, you know where that money

 

            8              comes from, your sewer rate increase and

 

            9              this is what happened back in May of 2007

 

           10              when Mayor Doherty with Anglican-American

 

           11              circumvented the Home Rule Charter and went

 

           12              down and gave the Sewer Authority the

 

           13              autonomy to raise the rates of the sewer --

 

           14              of the homeowners, the property owners in

 

           15              the City of Scranton without coming before

 

           16              city council.  The results over $1 million

 

           17              without health benefits, I didn't include

 

           18              that, and there he is making a big deal in

 

           19              the Scranton Times this morning that he is

 

           20              going to have a Recovery Plan, well, we now

 

           21              that he is circumventing everything.

 

           22                      Now, let's go back, this was on

 

           23              WILK, okay, where I got some of this

 

           24              information on the radio, let's go back to

 

           25              March 9, '06:  "MRS. GARVEY: FOR


 

 

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            1              CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE OF COMMUNITY

 

            2              DEVELOPMENT," this is verbatim off of your

 

            3              -- okay, on-line, "FOR ADOPTION, FILE OF

 

            4              COUNCIL NO. 20, 2006, AN ORDINANCE,

 

            5              AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

            6              CITY OFFICIALS TO ALLOCATE AMOUNTS NOT TO

 

            7              EXCEED $577,000 FROM ACCOUNT 91400,

 

            8              REPAYMENT OF URBAN DEVELOPMENT ACTIONS

 

            9              GRANTS FOR VARIOUS ELIGIBLE PROJECTS.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI:  What is the

 

           11              recommendation of the chairman on community

 

           12              development?

 

           13                      MRS. NEALON-FANUCCI: As chairman for

 

           14              the committee on community development, I

 

           15              recommend final passage of Item 7-B.

 

           16                      MR. MCTIERNAN: Second."

 

           17                      Now, he took that $10,000 out of

 

           18              that you UDAG money that you see here, okay,

 

           19              and he gave it the East Scranton Business

 

           20              Association.  He laundered it down to ECTV

 

           21              without coming before city council.  Should

 

           22              he?  Let me read it verbatim.  I wanted to

 

           23              see -- okay, this here, "MR. MCTIERNAN:

 

           24              Attorney Minora, can I ask you a question,

 

           25              please, and I think I know that --" may I


 

 

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            1              finish this, it's only two seconds?

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Please.

 

            3                      MR. QUINN: Thank you.

 

            4                      "But, I'll ask it.

 

            5                      MR. MINORA:  Shoot.

 

            6                      MR. MCTIERNAN:  After this is

 

            7              approved and there are projects that are

 

            8              worthy projects of this, do these loans or

 

            9              projects have to come before council for

 

           10              final approval?

 

           11                      MRS. GATELLI: Yes, they do.

 

           12                      MR. MINORA: They do.

 

           13                      MR. MCTIERNAN: So none of this money

 

           14              will be spent without our approval down the

 

           15              road?

 

           16                      MRS. GATELLI: No.

 

           17                      MR. MINORA: That's correct."

 

           18                      Now, something has gone amiss some

 

           19              place.  Thank you very much.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.

 

           21              Barb O'Malley.

 

           22                      MS. O'MALLEY: Barbara O'Malley.  At

 

           23              the July 1 council meeting it was revealed

 

           24              that the East Scranton Business Association

 

           25              gifted ECTV $10,000.  The source of the


 

 

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            1              money according to the East Scranton

 

            2              Business Association was OECD.  It is

 

            3              unclear how the money was approved until the

 

            4              mayor said he provided the money from

 

            5              $577,000 that council approved for his usage

 

            6              on March 9, 2006.

 

            7                      At that meeting council approved the

 

            8              $577,000 after a detailed discussion of what

 

            9              the money could be used for and if any

 

           10              projects or loans needed further approval

 

           11              from the Scranton City Council.  The

 

           12              transcript reads:  "MR. MCTIERNAN: Attorney

 

           13              Minora, can I ask you a question please and

 

           14              I think the I know the answer but I will ask

 

           15              it anyhow.

 

           16                      MR. MINORA:  Shoot.

 

           17                      MR. MCTIERNAN: After if this is

 

           18              approved and there are projects that are

 

           19              worthy of projects of this do those loans

 

           20              and projects have to come before council for

 

           21              final approval?

 

           22                      MRS. GATELLI: Yes, they do.

 

           23                      MR. MINORA: They do.

 

           24                      MR. MCTIERNAN: So, there is none of

 

           25              this money will be spent without our


 

 

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            1              approval down the road?

 

            2                      MRS. GATELLI: No.

 

            3                      MR. MINORA:  That's correct."

 

            4                      After further discussion the

 

            5              ordinance passed legally and lawfully

 

            6              adopted.  So, here we are down the road and

 

            7              the mayor, according to the Scranton Times

 

            8              in a radio interview, says the $577,000 was

 

            9              approved for his use and he decided that the

 

           10              $10,000 was needed to eliminate blight at

 

           11              the church ECTV is using for it's studios.

 

           12              Did Attorney Minora, then council president

 

           13              Mrs. Gatelli, and Councilmen McTiernan

 

           14              provide incorrect information thus

 

           15              misleading their fellow council members and

 

           16              the public or did Mr. Doherty just do his

 

           17              own thing and bypass city council?  I hope

 

           18              this quandary will be addressed by

 

           19              Mrs. Gatelli and Attorney Minora, but,

 

           20              unfortunately, he is not here.

 

           21                      How did Mr. Doherty get $10,000 into

 

           22              the hands of ECTV without council's

 

           23              approval?  Apparently, through the East

 

           24              Scranton Business Association.  The money

 

           25              that the association gifted to ECTV came


 

 

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            1              from UDAG funds, taxpayers' money.  How did

 

            2              the mayor transfer money to the East

 

            3              Scranton Business Association to ECTV?  Is

 

            4              there a paper trail open to the public?

 

            5                      It is my understanding that federal

 

            6              funds cannot be handed out by OECD or the

 

            7              mayor without an application stating what it

 

            8              would be used for and proper documentation.

 

            9                      Did the East Scranton Business

 

           10              Association file an application with OECD

 

           11              stating the money would be used to eliminate

 

           12              blight at the church at 933 Prescott Avenue?

 

           13              At the March 9, 2006, meeting Mrs. Gatelli

 

           14              referenced her former employment at OECD

 

           15              when discussing the OECD funds in question.

 

           16              The transcript reads:  "MRS. GATELLI:  When

 

           17              you work in OECD and you have a pool of

 

           18              money you don't know what the projects are

 

           19              until the people come and ask you for the

 

           20              money.  It's not like you have money and

 

           21              say, oh, I've got this money, now I'm going

 

           22              to give it to Janet Evans, Sherry Fanucci,

 

           23              Judy and Bill and Bob because they are my

 

           24              friends and they are going to do a project.

 

           25              It doesn't work that way."


 

 

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            1                      Well, it certainly appears to me

 

            2              that in the case of ECTV that is exactly how

 

            3              it worked.

 

            4                      Now, onto 933 Prescott Avenue the

 

            5              reported blighted property where ECTV has

 

            6              it's studios.  This property, a stately

 

            7              well-maintained brick church was purchased

 

            8              in January 2007 for $250,000 by Lackawanna

 

            9              Institute.  Lackawanna Institute and it's

 

           10              principal are very well-known for the

 

           11              acquisition, improvement and upkeep of

 

           12              properties throughout the Hill Section.  It

 

           13              seems highly unlikely that Lackawanna

 

           14              Institute would request funds from the East

 

           15              Scranton Business Association for blight

 

           16              removal from this property or any other for

 

           17              that matter.

 

           18                      According to my research, HUD

 

           19              provides federal funding for eligible

 

           20              projects that address blight on a spot basis

 

           21              if the rehab is limited to those conditions

 

           22              which are detrimental to public health and

 

           23              safety.  The church at 933 Prescott Avenue

 

           24              is not and never was blighted by this

 

           25              definition or any other definition.  I urge


 

 

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            1              all of you to take a ride to the former

 

            2              church at 933 Prescott Avenue then compare

 

            3              it to the deteriorating building at say

 

            4              Cedar and Elm in South Scranton, now that's

 

            5              blight.  Again, the red flags are abundant

 

            6              when it comes to ECTV from the mayor

 

            7              disregarding council's authority to the

 

            8              trumped up blight case.  Why is it so

 

            9              important for Mayor Doherty to personally

 

           10              ensure Scranton Today's demise and ECTV's

 

           11              success?  Does anybody really believe that

 

           12              the selection funding of ECTV has been an

 

           13              above board process?  I urge you to end this

 

           14              charade by not approving the additional

 

           15              $90,000 for the mayor's deal.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

           17              Mrs. O'Malley.  Sam Patilla.

 

           18                      MR. PATILLA: Good afternoon, Mrs.

 

           19              Evans and Mr. Courtright.  I, too, want to

 

           20              speak on Channel 61 ECTV.  You know, me

 

           21              personally, this is just my opinion, okay,

 

           22              that it is as stated earlier the mayor's TV

 

           23              station, okay?  When I first started

 

           24              appearing before council, you know, I had to

 

           25              listen to taxpayers being called the Legion


 

 

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            1              of Doom and yada, yada, yada and everything

 

            2              else underneath the sun, as a bunch of

 

            3              malcontents.  Well, evidently these

 

            4              malcontents have been speaking the truth

 

            5              because one time the cameras in this

 

            6              chambers were removed.  Now, we have an

 

            7              organization that wouldn't cow-tow down to

 

            8              this mayor and a blatant attempt to control

 

            9              what the taxpayers have access to in regards

 

           10              to this city council.

 

           11                      Now, as I stated before, I don't

 

           12              know whether the owner of ECTV has liens

 

           13              against him present or past or whatever the

 

           14              case may be, but I do know that this

 

           15              administration has a history of taking

 

           16              moneys that can be used to assist our

 

           17              children, our elderly, and our poor.  I

 

           18              haven't gotten all of the information on the

 

           19              Friendship House yet, but I guarantee you

 

           20              that that $90,000 could be put better to use

 

           21              by what they intended to use that money for

 

           22              than an organization that came to city

 

           23              council with an empty hands requesting city

 

           24              taxpayer money.

 

           25                      You know, I just can't understand


 

 

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            1              this.  I know personally that this thing is

 

            2              going to get passed, I know it, so do

 

            3              98 percent of the people viewing this and

 

            4              those in the audience, we already know this,

 

            5              but that doesn't make it right.  You know,

 

            6              people don't take into consideration when a

 

            7              government officials, what are the effects,

 

            8              the economy outside of that municipality,

 

            9              outside of the locale that's going to have

 

           10              on your residents?  When that $300,000 was

 

           11              used in that dog park nobody foresaw the

 

           12              increases in oil, in gas.  This $90,000 used

 

           13              to take over that television station nobody

 

           14              is taking into consideration when the cap

 

           15              comes off PPL, all right?  This city, this

 

           16              area is predominantly seniors and low to

 

           17              moderate income people and children, all

 

           18              right?  You don't have a lot of rich people

 

           19              in this city because if you did you wouldn't

 

           20              be taking money from poor people and the

 

           21              seniors, you wouldn't have to, you would use

 

           22              your own money.

 

           23                      You know, Daddy Warbucks here, all

 

           24              right, every time I turn around he is taking

 

           25              money from the poor, from the kids, from the


 

 

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            1              elderly, it's sickening.  You know,

 

            2              sometimes you just have to stand up and say

 

            3              enough is enough.  I'm not going to be a

 

            4              party to that.  I don't care what the

 

            5              repercussions are I have values, I have

 

            6              morals, I'm not going to do it.  Now, like I

 

            7              said, I haven't gotten the backup on this

 

            8              Friendship House yet, but I guarantee you

 

            9              that they have a better use and a better

 

           10              purpose for that money than somebody that

 

           11              can't pay their own bills.  I thank you for

 

           12              your time.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.

 

           14              Rich Gilroy.

 

           15                      MR. GILROY: Rich Gilroy, resident of

 

           16              Scranton.  I'm here because my mom is a

 

           17              homeowner up in North Scranton and she

 

           18              shares her house with a Village Park

 

           19              Apartments, it's a housing development.

 

           20              There is a dumpsters there with no lids on

 

           21              them, we are waiting a year for them to be

 

           22              on them.  Nothing.  All garbage all over and

 

           23              I have pictures here, blighted houses, out

 

           24              of town landlords, there is two houses next

 

           25              to my mom, out of town landlords.  The grass


 

 

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            1              is never cut.  The one is running an illegal

 

            2              garage fixing cars, all you hear is motors

 

            3              running in there, compressors, you smell

 

            4              paint fumes and they are getting away with

 

            5              it.  In the house next to my mom is a busted

 

            6              shed.  There is all garbage in there, the

 

            7              grass is never cut, and another thing is

 

            8              there was a drug house there a couple of

 

            9              years ago and we had to go to a lawyer

 

           10              because we couldn't get them out of there

 

           11              and we left a message with the safety

 

           12              director who would in the answer the call

 

           13              until we hired a lawyer about it, so

 

           14              something has got to be done about those

 

           15              places up there.  If you would care to look

 

           16              at these pictures I have them right here?

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Where did you say

 

           18              it was at, what project?

 

           19                      MR. GILROY: Village.  Townhouse.

 

           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Townhouse.

 

           21                      MR. GILROY:  It was a drug place at

 

           22              one time.  There is no security up there at

 

           23              all at that housing development, it's

 

           24              ashame.  My mom is 20 years next month and

 

           25              it's like living in hell living there, you


 

 

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            1              wouldn't want to live there to see what goes

 

            2              on there.  There is a gangs out there

 

            3              drinking liquor, they are defecating by the

 

            4              dumpsters, you have to see what it's like to

 

            5              live up there, it's a shame and my mother is

 

            6              elderly, that's why I'm here on her behalf,

 

            7              it's a very rotten shame what we have to put

 

            8              up up there, no security or nothing, and

 

            9              that's why I'm here.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Sir, did they do

 

           11              away with the cop?  Did they do away with

 

           12              the cop going out there?

 

           13                      MR. GILROY:  Saturday there might be

 

           14              Carrie Iaaavazzi is the park manager and she

 

           15              said on Saturday they might have security

 

           16              there from maybe until 12, but they are out

 

           17              all hours of the night where you see bottles

 

           18              of liquor, beer, be sitting in cars, sitting

 

           19              on curbstones, it's terrible.  You wouldn't

 

           20              want to live up there.  My mom --

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: They used to have a

 

           22              Scranton police officer there.  They don't

 

           23              have it anymore; correct?

 

           24                      MR. GILROY:  Well, she says on

 

           25              Saturdays, she hires one on Saturdays.  We


 

 

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            1              never see any security up there at all.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I know her, I'll

 

            3              talk to her for you.

 

            4                      MR. GILROY:  My mom had damage from

 

            5              the fireworks.  They shot those rocket

 

            6              launchers and it was like World War II when

 

            7              the Russians were going to Berlin, they had

 

            8              that noise on them.  They were out and shot

 

            9              them off the roof, I was sitting on the

 

           10              steps and I got almost hit in the face, it

 

           11              missed me, sparks flying all over the place,

 

           12              and they damaged the -- they burnt the wood

 

           13              on the steps.  They melted where the fan is

 

           14              on the side of the house, they melted that

 

           15              and there is a like a little indentation on

 

           16              the bottom where I guess where it hit it,

 

           17              and it landed on the -- there is a park

 

           18              bench under the steps, it landed under

 

           19              there.

 

           20                      But, as they were coming from all

 

           21              directions, from the project in the back and

 

           22              where they're running that illegal garage

 

           23              and there was rocket launchers, they were

 

           24              just going "Zroop", right over where our

 

           25              roof, the garage, and there is all trees and


 

 

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            1              everything in the yard.  It's a shame.  Like

 

            2              I said, it's a shame, you wouldn't want to

 

            3              live up there.  It's like living in hell

 

            4              living there.  Plus with all the blight, the

 

            5              road is all a mess, you can't even get a

 

            6              pothole taken care of.  We are waiting three

 

            7              weeks for a pothole and I talked to one of

 

            8              the guys down I think it's in -- I can't

 

            9              think, I forget his name, I was shopping in

 

           10              Dunmore Saturday, last Saturday, and there

 

           11              was a DPW truck up at Big Lots, two guys

 

           12              were in there, the truck was parked right

 

           13              there.  The guy, Mr. Matthews, that's what

 

           14              his name was.  He said, "We can't do

 

           15              anything because we were understaffed."

 

           16                      I said, "What about those two guys

 

           17              that were in Dunmore shopping last Saturday

 

           18              with the DPW truck?"

 

           19                      They are understaffed, give me a

 

           20              break.  That's all I have to say.  Thank

 

           21              you.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gilroy,

 

           23              and I do have the list you gave to me.

 

           24              Brett McCloe.

 

           25                      MR. MCCLOE: Good afternoon.  My name


 

 

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            1              is Brett McCloe, Scranton taxpayer, and I

 

            2              want to talk about some things that were

 

            3              said last week from you folks up there, and

 

            4              I had a conversation in the park and the

 

            5              gentleman came up to me while my children

 

            6              were playing at one of our city playgrounds

 

            7              and asked me a very important question,

 

            8              "Don't you guys have anything better to do

 

            9              with your time than to criticize the

 

           10              progress of this mayor and the progress that

 

           11              this mayor and the city council has made for

 

           12              the city?"

 

           13                      My reply became rather quickly and I

 

           14              said, "Depends on what you call progress."

 

           15                      I said to him, "Would you allow me

 

           16              to take your credit card to buy some new

 

           17              clothes and a very expensive car that you

 

           18              don't need at all and all in the name of

 

           19              progress because it is better to look good

 

           20              than to be good?  Would you be happy with me

 

           21              taking credit for all your so-called

 

           22              progress as I leave it up to you to pay the

 

           23              bill?"

 

           24                      He laughed.  And my second point

 

           25              was, no, there is nothing better to do than


 

 

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            1              to take one or two hours out of every week

 

            2              or so and come down here to council chambers

 

            3              and to give my thoughts and my opinions as a

 

            4              citizen to all the citizens.  I not only

 

            5              tell you what I think, I will tell you why I

 

            6              think what I do.  After 15 minutes of

 

            7              political banter it became very clear that

 

            8              he was connected.  He had the right look,

 

            9              the right name, he lived in the right

 

           10              neighborhood, owned and operated the right

 

           11              business.  He said, "The Lord helps those

 

           12              who help themselves."

 

           13                      I said, "I'm quite sure you have

 

           14              helped yourself quite a bit without help

 

           15              from the Lord.  You must be one of those who

 

           16              believe our local government can walk on

 

           17              water."

 

           18                      He bragged, that's what the beauty

 

           19              of political contributions and 3-2 votes.

 

           20              He became very angry when I confronted him

 

           21              with his own humanity and lack of economic

 

           22              compassion.  The inevitable conclusion to

 

           23              our conversation was summed up by his

 

           24              parting statement, "Blank the people," to

 

           25              which I replied, "That's my point exactly."


 

 

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            1                      That statement alone is why people

 

            2              come to these council meetings to combat

 

            3              legislation that reeks of impropriety and is

 

            4              fueled by this blank the people mindset.

 

            5                   Was this one of the other people in the

 

            6              city who people say they represent?  I hope

 

            7              this is not the time of constituent any of

 

            8              you or any elected official would base the

 

            9              needs of this city upon.  We all know one of

 

           10              these other people in this city, and except

 

           11              for the possible warped sense of community

 

           12              these people are fairly honest and good

 

           13              people, but there does need to be a constant

 

           14              open dialogue between citizens of this city

 

           15              not just between here and there, to each one

 

           16              speak to one.  We have to change the

 

           17              psychology and the way we feel about each

 

           18              other in order for us to truly progress.

 

           19                   Mr. McGoff, as a former teacher you

 

           20              above all should understand the importance

 

           21              of the history of this city and the

 

           22              psychology of the people who live in it.

 

           23              This has always been a city where back room

 

           24              deals were made and where most citizens turn

 

           25              their back on malfeasance and the appearance


 

 

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            1              of impropriety in order to safeguard their

 

            2              jobs, their livelihood and their social

 

            3              standing.  Generation after generation has

 

            4              survived and thrived off of political slight

 

            5              of hand.

 

            6                      Unfounded allegations and character

 

            7              assaults are a natural result of a

 

            8              rightfully cynical society with instant

 

            9              access to information.  Unfortunately,

 

           10              sometimes misinformation, mistrust,

 

           11              misbehavior, and a lack of decorum go

 

           12              hand-in-hand with the abolishment and

 

           13              dismantling of Scranton's very old 150 year

 

           14              old fueled system and the creation of a

 

           15              democracy where democracy existed before.

 

           16                      I guess I don't know much about the

 

           17              mechanics of how the city government works,

 

           18              but I am trying to learn.  It's the people

 

           19              ourselves who have to change first because

 

           20              we will become them.  They are not going to

 

           21              be there forever, we will all -- some of us

 

           22              will be getting voted into those seats in 5,

 

           23              10, 15 years.  Thank you.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you Mr. McCloe.

 

           25              Les Spindler.


 

 

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            1                      MR. SPINDLER: Morning, Council.  Les

 

            2              Spindler, city resident, homeowner.

 

            3              Mr. McGoff, two weeks ago you stated that

 

            4              someone from the University of Scranton told

 

            5              you the people that play soccer down at the

 

            6              South Side complex did not pay.  Well, what

 

            7              did you think they were going to tell you?

 

            8              Did you think they were going to tell you

 

            9              the truth?  Did you go down and ask the

 

           10              people that are actually paying?  Did you go

 

           11              down to the complex and ask the people down

 

           12              there if they are paying?  I did,

 

           13              Mr. McGoff, go talk to the people that are

 

           14              playing.  They pay to play on Sunday and if

 

           15              the University does own that complex where

 

           16              is the rest of the money they owe the city

 

           17              for it?  And where is the lighted ballfield

 

           18              they were supposed to build for the city?

 

           19              Did the cat get your tongue, Mr. McGoff?

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  I didn't realize they

 

           21              were questions, no.

 

           22                      MR. SPINDLER: Forget about it then.

 

           23              They are just all lies that the University

 

           24              told you.  Go ask the people that play there

 

           25              on Sunday if they play or not.  I did.


 

 

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            1              Maybe it's too much out of your schedule to

 

            2              go down there on a Sunday.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.  I gave you

 

            4              an answer to the questions that you had.

 

            5                      MR. SPINDLER:  Okay, and I'm telling

 

            6              you the answer I got from the people that

 

            7              pay.  I'd like to read something from an

 

            8              article from the Doherty newsletter last

 

            9              week, something the mayor said about the

 

           10              fire and police unions.  The mayor said, "We

 

           11              don't want to jump the gun and cost the

 

           12              taxpayers anymore money."

 

           13                      Is he joking?  He doesn't want to

 

           14              cost the taxpayers any more money?  He must

 

           15              have cost them millions in arbitration

 

           16              appeals already and now he doesn't want to

 

           17              cost the taxpayers anymore money?  I can't

 

           18              believe this guy.  He is a joke.

 

           19                      And then a day or two later I read

 

           20              something else in the Doherty newsletter,

 

           21              "TV switch has more to offer," and I had a

 

           22              lot of respect for Stacy Brown until I read

 

           23              this article, I'm just going to read bits

 

           24              and pieces of it.  It starts off, "A

 

           25              colorful screen bursting with fireworks and


 

 

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            1              chocked full of information."

 

            2                      Stacy, the fireworks weren't real.

 

            3              From help lines to hot lines to happenings,

 

            4              that were placed in there which viewers of

 

            5              public access Channel 61 and 62 have

 

            6              recently grown accustomed to."

 

            7                      Scranton Today showed all of those

 

            8              things and more.  And, lastly, it also says

 

            9              that cable access television is more than

 

           10              just showing city council meetings.  Well,

 

           11              Stacy, you and the mayor should have seen

 

           12              the pie chart that Scranton Today gave and

 

           13              it's RFP.  It showed only 28 percent of

 

           14              their programming was government meetings,

 

           15              72 percent of their programming was other

 

           16              coverage, so these people should get the

 

           17              facts straight because the mayor said he

 

           18              picked ECTV because Scranton Today only

 

           19              showed government meetings.  That's a lie

 

           20              and their pie chart proves it.

 

           21                      Also, about that $10,000.  I think

 

           22              there should be an investigation on that.

 

           23              There might be money laundering, the mayor

 

           24              had to come before council and get that

 

           25              money approved.  He didn't do it, he


 

 

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            1              circumvented council to get an outrageous

 

            2              sewer authority raise of almost double, then

 

            3              he circumvents council to get $10,000 to

 

            4              whoever he wants to, this mayor gets what he

 

            5              wants, all right, he is like a little kid

 

            6              that wants to take the ball and go home if

 

            7              he doesn't get what he wants.  This council

 

            8              gives the mayor whatever he wants and

 

            9              something has to be done now.  There should

 

           10              be an investigation, this $10,000 was given

 

           11              to ECTV illegally and something has to be

 

           12              done.  Thank you for your time.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.

 

           14              Ron Ellman.

 

           15                      MR. ELLMAN:  Yeah, Ronnie Ellman,

 

           16              homeowner, member of the Taxpayers'

 

           17              Association.  I've just had a terrible two

 

           18              weeks and I just feel like taking it out on

 

           19              you all, but I won't, but my insurance is

 

           20              just driving me crazy this Hartford.  I

 

           21              guess you catch enough dickens today.

 

           22                      I'm going to tell you a real kick

 

           23              story why I am so impassioned about this

 

           24              money being taken from Friendship House.  I

 

           25              told you that my father was in politics in


 

 

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            1              Tennessee in the 50's and 60's and 70's, and

 

            2              that's about the time that Danny Thomas was

 

            3              trying to establish St. Jude Hospital and my

 

            4              father was very honored to have met him

 

            5              several times on business and that's when I

 

            6              was an x-ray technician and he took me down

 

            7              there one night to meet Mr. Thomas and I

 

            8              asked him for a job working at Danny Thomas,

 

            9              this is about six months or a year before

 

           10              they opened, and I went over a few days

 

           11              later to wander around and get familiar and

 

           12              I lasted to lunch time, and I ate my free

 

           13              lunch and I told this Dr. Bassett I'm not

 

           14              man enough to work around these children.

 

           15              It's just heartbreaking and then for years I

 

           16              just felt guilty.  These people they needed

 

           17              staff members and all and I didn't stay to

 

           18              help them, so I have always supported Danny

 

           19              Thomas as much as I could and St. Jude's

 

           20              Hospital.

 

           21                      Every time, I'm not saying this to

 

           22              -- I don't know how to say it without

 

           23              sounding like a phony or something, when I

 

           24              see a little baby's picture in the paper in

 

           25              the obituaries or somebody from St. Joseph's


 

 

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            1              it's just heartbreaking to me.  Young people

 

            2              they just don't, you know, haven't lived

 

            3              their life.

 

            4                      This thing, the paper I phoned -- I

 

            5              phoned this last Monday before I came and I

 

            6              was told what was in the yesterday's paper

 

            7              that money was collected for that specific

 

            8              purpose of building a new wing.  Now, you

 

            9              listen to the big lie from the mayor, there

 

           10              is no way we can pay this man, we don't have

 

           11              any business taking it, I just don't -- I

 

           12              just don't see how they get away with it.  I

 

           13              have been on the phone all week and I got a

 

           14              complaint form from the Attorney General's

 

           15              Office to fill out about when I told them

 

           16              what was going on.  I am going to do

 

           17              everything I can to let this state know what

 

           18              Friendship House, they are not in the

 

           19              banking business, if they have so much money

 

           20              then they can loan it to the city, they

 

           21              shouldn't be out there getting

 

           22              contributions.

 

           23                      I have never given them anything,

 

           24              but the next thing you know what is the

 

           25              mayor going to ask St. Joseph for some of


 

 

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            1              their money, you know, or Catholic services,

 

            2              the Red Cross?  He doesn't have any business

 

            3              taking money from people that are donating

 

            4              it for a specific purpose.  He just doesn't

 

            5              have any feelings for his fellow man.

 

            6                      You know what, you are like this

 

            7              one.  When I'm at the Taurus Club, every

 

            8              time I go to the men's room and talk to

 

            9              someone I have found out that mayor Doherty

 

           10              has lost a lot of support with his own crowd

 

           11              of professionals I guess is the word.  He

 

           12              just can't go on like this.  He is

 

           13              alienating the people he needs.  I'm not

 

           14              really mad at him, I told you, the park was

 

           15              beautiful when I was down there for the car

 

           16              show, but he just -- you know, the people of

 

           17              this city just must make some contributions

 

           18              to the city and that's voting.     What we

 

           19              need maybe some public forum or something to

 

           20              see what's going on and how the people feel,

 

           21              see how they feel about the mayor, and maybe

 

           22              I'm wrong, and see how they feel about you

 

           23              guys.  I don't see anything wrong in having

 

           24              a public forum, but we can't go on just

 

           25              borrowing.  They will be out right now


 

 

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            1              asking for donations and people are taking,

 

            2              let's just say $1,000 donation, and they are

 

            3              taking it off their income tax donating it

 

            4              to their for a specific purpose of a

 

            5              building fund and it's being given to us.

 

            6              Now, that can't be legal.  There is

 

            7              something wrong somewhere.  Thank you very

 

            8              much.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Ellman.

 

           10              Liz Hubbard.

 

           11                      MS. HUBBARD: Morning, Council.  Liz

 

           12              Hubbard, Scranton resident and taxpayer.

 

           13              According to the Council minutes of 3-9-06 I

 

           14              know this has all been said before, but the

 

           15              money coming out of that $577,000 had to be

 

           16              approved by council according to Mr.

 

           17              McTiernan's questions and Mrs. Gatelli and

 

           18              Mr. Minora's answers.  On that, if these

 

           19              minutes are correct, when was the $10,000

 

           20              given to the East Scranton Business

 

           21              Association and what project was it approved

 

           22              for?  Can anybody answer that?

 

           23                      MS. FANUCCI: You are aware it did

 

           24              not come here?  I mean, we didn't vote on

 

           25              that.  But, I can tell you what it was --


 

 

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            1              what it is designated for.  It was

 

            2              designated for cleanup and for rehab in the

 

            3              basement facility of that church.

 

            4                      MS. HUBBARD: When was it given to

 

            5              them.

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't really know.  I

 

            7              don't know that date.  I have no idea.  I

 

            8              know it was a few months, but I don't know

 

            9              the exact date.

 

           10                      MS. HUBBARD:  Why was council

 

           11              bypassed?

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, I do know as far

 

           13              as UDAG funds are concerned, under a certain

 

           14              amount does not have to pass through

 

           15              council, so that has always been.  That's

 

           16              been --

 

           17                      MS. HUBBARD:  How very convenient

 

           18              for --

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, it's been

 

           20              convenient for all of the mayors.  That is

 

           21              something that's being going on forever.

 

           22              This isn't new, this isn't something that

 

           23              just happened, that has been going forever.

 

           24              UDAG is pretty much disbursed by the mayor

 

           25              to do pet projects like the treehouse and


 

 

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            1              things like that.

 

            2                      MS. HUBBARD:  Pet projects being the

 

            3              key word.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes, being the key

 

            5              word.

 

            6                      MS. HUBBARD: Doherty said on the

 

            7              radio that it was for cleaning up blight,

 

            8              i.e., cleaning the basement of an old

 

            9              church.  How does cleaning up the basement

 

           10              of an old church that is owned by a wealthy

 

           11              businessman who pays no taxes on any of the

 

           12              properties he owns because it's a nonprofit,

 

           13              how does that constitute blight?

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI: It is a nonprofit.  It

 

           15              doesn't matter who owns what, the fact is

 

           16              it's a nonprofit organization.

 

           17                      MS. HUBBARD: No, ho, what I'm

 

           18              saying, if the $10,000 was to clean up the

 

           19              weeds in the yard or the facade of the

 

           20              building, okay, that might be classified as

 

           21              blight, but the 10,000 was to clean up the

 

           22              basement.

 

           23                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, blight can be

 

           24              anything from -- -

 

           25                      MS. HUBBARD: Who sees the basement?


 

 

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            1                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, wait, blight can

 

            2              be anything from code to not code.  Blight

 

            3              can be, you know, electrical problems.

 

            4              Blight can be anything.  Blight isn't just

 

            5              weeds, so it would fall under blight.

 

            6                      MS. HUBBARD:  Yeah, Mayor Doherty

 

            7              said it was specifically for cleaning the

 

            8              basement.  Well, how about I'd like to get

 

            9              some money to clean my basement.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, file a nonprofit

 

           11              and we will see what we can do.  I don't

 

           12              know what to tell you.

 

           13                      MS. HUBBARD:  I mean, this is

 

           14              bordering on the ridiculous that this money

 

           15              is being funneled to these people and you

 

           16              said in the morning paper I believe that the

 

           17              programming is wonderful.  I haven't seen

 

           18              any programming.

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI: Have you been watching?

 

           20                      MS. HUBBARD:  Every time I turn it

 

           21              on I get little blight hotline numbers and

 

           22              all of that stuff.  I haven't seen anything.

 

           23                      MS. FANUCCI: What did you get last

 

           24              time in the old station?  I mean, come on,

 

           25              they are only a few weeks old.


 

 

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            1                      MS. HUBBARD:  The old station until

 

            2              they ran out of money.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Listen, I'm entitled to

 

            4              think that the graphics are wonderful and

 

            5              I'll stand on that.  I think that what I

 

            6              have seen so far has been really good.

 

            7                      MS. HUBBARD: All right, well, I

 

            8              mean, to watch graphics, what can I tell

 

            9              you.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: You should.

 

           11                      MS. HUBBARD:  I would like to have

 

           12              seen some of this money that's apparently

 

           13              going for cleaning up blight, some of it to

 

           14              go toward the flood siren that you people,

 

           15              all of you unanimously voted on that.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I actually checked on

 

           17              that for you, I checked on that for you

 

           18              recently, and the reason that you did not

 

           19              get your flood siren and you will not be

 

           20              getting your flood siren is because when

 

           21              they tested all of the flood sirens they

 

           22              felt that they still can hear them from your

 

           23              house.

 

           24                      MS. HUBBARD:  Really?  Because I

 

           25              didn't see anybody on my front porch


 

 

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            1              listening.

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: It happened.

 

            3                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, I didn't hear any

 

            4              flood sirens.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, it happened and

 

            6              they tested them, and it was actually awhile

 

            7              ago, and so they decided that you actually

 

            8              are in earshot.  They used whatever the

 

            9              meter is that this used to measure the

 

           10              sounds, yeah.

 

           11                      MS. HUBBARD: Okay.  Maybe the birds

 

           12              can hear it, but the people can't.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI: But the good thing is,

 

           14              the good thing is that 30 houses were ripped

 

           15              down in blight with the money that we did

 

           16              give out.

 

           17                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, you know what I

 

           18              figured, 10,000 could clean out a lot of

 

           19              skunks and other critters in the city.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, see, that's good.

 

           21                      MS. HUBBARD:  Because to me they are

 

           22              more of a problem than a dirty basement of a

 

           23              church that's a nonprofit.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Everybody has their

 

           25              cause, which is nice.


 

 

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            1                      MS. HUBBARD:  I'm sorry, the money

 

            2              goes to all of these places in the city and

 

            3              there is so many problems that never get

 

            4              addressed that it's disgusting.  Anyway,

 

            5              have a nice day.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Hubbard.

 

            7              Stephanie Galla.

 

            8                      MS. GALLA: Stephanie Galla, city

 

            9              resident.  I'm here because I'm frustrated

 

           10              with the new station, it's not showing the

 

           11              council meetings, I don't get to see them, I

 

           12              work for a living, so they need to start

 

           13              airing them at night.  I realize in the

 

           14              evenings when they start again we will get

 

           15              them, but they haven't been conducive to

 

           16              those of us who work, it's ridiculous.

 

           17                      The other things are city business,

 

           18              the mayor again is getting ready to put us

 

           19              in danger because he is getting ready to cut

 

           20              more firemen.  I don't know what he doesn't

 

           21              get that they need some backup and cutting

 

           22              the staff more is putting my home, my live

 

           23              and everybody else's life in danger and he

 

           24              needs to not do this, and I don't know what

 

           25              you as a council can do, but somebody has


 

 

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            1              got to get this man under control because he

 

            2              is just out of control.  You know, he is

 

            3              trying to blame them for the taxes, well, I

 

            4              don't know how he can because they haven't

 

            5              gotten a raise, they work for nothing at

 

            6              this point because the cost of everything

 

            7              else has gone up so much.  I don't know how

 

            8              they expect them to keep going.  You know, I

 

            9              wouldn't mind paying a little more if I was

 

           10              getting the services, but how can I get

 

           11              services when I don't have the manstaff?  It

 

           12              doesn't even make sense to me.

 

           13                      He agreed to the arbitration, he

 

           14              hasn't lived up to it, we all know that.  He

 

           15              keeps going to Court and he keeps costing us

 

           16              more money, we all know that, that's not

 

           17              anything new.  He has taken away baseball

 

           18              fields on us, he is not replacing them.  He

 

           19              is taking fields like Weston field that had

 

           20              two baseball fields, he put soccer fields

 

           21              in.  Well, it's nice that other people like

 

           22              to place soccer but I thought this was

 

           23              American, this was baseball, apple pie and

 

           24              Chevrolet, you know, that's what I grew up

 

           25              on.


 

 

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            1                      I would like some accountability on

 

            2              the $10,000.  Now, I do understand that we

 

            3              are supposed to be checking into that now,

 

            4              did I read that in the paper this morning?

 

            5              As I read in the paper that he is getting

 

            6              ready to ax more people.

 

            7                      I would like to know, you know, like

 

            8              I don't understand how we let Scranton Today

 

            9              go.  I don't understand that.  They got

 

           10              shafted so bad and I think it needs to be

 

           11              investigated and something should be double

 

           12              checked.  There was something wrong with

 

           13              this process totally.  If the mayor wants to

 

           14              continue to spend money to improve the city

 

           15              it would more wise to improve the streets.

 

           16              Now, I realize some of them are state

 

           17              streets, but, I mean, a lot of the streets

 

           18              are not and if we want the tourist to come

 

           19              in we should have decent roads to ride on.

 

           20              Now, I mean, I understand we are doing

 

           21              something with 100 block of Lackawanna

 

           22              Avenue that they just shut down, but, I

 

           23              mean, that was that for way, way too long.

 

           24                   You know, now there is a section of

 

           25              Jefferson, I think belongs to the state, bu


 

 

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            1              that section right there by the "U" between

 

            2              Mulberry and Linden that's always a mess,

 

            3              can somebody, you know, maybe get the state

 

            4              to take care of that?  It's been a big

 

            5              pothole for as long as I can remember.

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  There has been a lot

 

            7              of fighting, not fighting, but back and

 

            8              forth on that road because of the PennDOT

 

            9              and they wanted to make it a passing three

 

           10              lane where people can pass and the residents

 

           11              of the Hill and also --

 

           12                      MS. GALLA: No, this is -- when I'm

 

           13              talking Jefferson Avenue I'm talking down by

 

           14              the University.

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.  Right.  The

 

           16              problem is that they were trying to make it

 

           17              into like those passing lanes and the

 

           18              feeling was that if you make cars go faster

 

           19              on the avenue that it could actually be

 

           20              worse for the residents, so that's been

 

           21              going on for a long time between PennDot and

 

           22              trying to do planting there.

 

           23                      MS. GALLA: The other spot that

 

           24              concerns me a lot because I do drive around

 

           25              the city a lot I get stuck at it lot at


 

 

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            1              Mulberry Street as you are coming into the

 

            2              city right at Wyoming it used to have the

 

            3              arrows to what lane you are supposed to be

 

            4              in, again, I'm pretty sure that's state, but

 

            5              it would be great if --

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  They are doing a

 

            7              study on that, we are looking into it.

 

            8                      MS. GALLA: Okay.  All right, because

 

            9              that's just hazardous.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: That is.

 

           11                      MS. GALLA: And if they don't want to

 

           12              put it down on the road, put it up on a pole

 

           13              so you know what lane you are supposed to be

 

           14              in.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: They are doing a

 

           16              study to do a left-hand turn signal.

 

           17                      MS. GALLA: Oh, okay.  Oh, excellent.

 

           18              That would be great.

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes, it would be.

 

           20                      MS. GALLA: Now, I understand that

 

           21              Fay Franus spoke at council a couple of

 

           22              weeks ago and she asked Mrs. Gatelli --

 

           23              spoke to -- this was stated at council that

 

           24              she had talked to Judy on the phone and that

 

           25              Judy was going to possibly bring up the


 

 

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            1              subpoenas and then she decided to wait on

 

            2              it.  Okay, that's my time.  Thank you.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI:  We will be doing them

 

            4              today.  We will be getting the subpoenas.

 

            5                      MS. GALLA:  I mean, I don't

 

            6              understand like we asked you a couple of

 

            7              weeks to do it but then you were kind of

 

            8              skiddish about it, what changed.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: No, I wasn't skiddish

 

           10              at all, the tax collector stated that he

 

           11              wasn't coming so I didn't see the necessity

 

           12              of going through all the legalities to get

 

           13              this, but we are now at our limit and I will

 

           14              be making that motion today.

 

           15                      MS. GALLA: Okay, thank you.

 

           16                      MS. GATELLI: You are welcome.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.

 

           18                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good morning.  Marie

 

           19              Schumacher.  First, I would ask Mrs. Gatelli

 

           20              to report the status of the inputs to the

 

           21              auditors during motions today and how many

 

           22              of those delinquencies reported several

 

           23              weeks ago have been satisfied and what

 

           24              current delinquencies are.

 

           25                      Second, as to this $10,000, I heard


 

 

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            1              the mayor on WILK and I have to question his

 

            2              logic.  I heard him say something to the

 

            3              effect that he had to give that $10,000 to

 

            4              ESBA to give to ECTV because the East

 

            5              Scranton Business Association was an

 

            6              established entity, yet at the same time he

 

            7              was asking you all and us taxpayers to foot

 

            8              the bill for $90,000 to this unknown entity

 

            9              other than what we know from their proposal,

 

           10              so I really question the mayor's logic and

 

           11              also on that $10,000 if those UDAG funds can

 

           12              be used for code violation repair I think it

 

           13              would have been really nice if the city had

 

           14              made that poor man whole who came here at

 

           15              this podium I believe that lived on Dickson

 

           16              avenue where his pipes froze and flooded

 

           17              because the city had his power shut off, and

 

           18              I think that would be an appropriate use of

 

           19              those UDAG funds if, in fact, that is how

 

           20              they are to be used.

 

           21                      Now, as to the resolution and

 

           22              ordinance to provide 90,000 precious tax

 

           23              dollars to ECTV, I want to reiterate several

 

           24              fallacies used the primary fallacy used as a

 

           25              basis for gifting these funds to ECTV as the


 

 

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            1              creation of three low to moderate income

 

            2              jobs.  As two jobs are being eliminated at

 

            3              Scranton Today there is only one net job

 

            4              being created by ECTV and 90,000 is simply

 

            5              to much for a distressed city to pay for the

 

            6              creation of a single job.

 

            7                      Now, let's move on again as I did

 

            8              last week I want to reiterate, move onto the

 

            9              inflated proposal submitted by ECTV.  Within

 

           10              the last two weeks ECTV has admitted or

 

           11              their personnel have admitted that

 

           12              individuals included in the proposal for

 

           13              ECTV operations were not even aware of their

 

           14              inclusion.  Chris Balton's role apparently

 

           15              was fulfilled when the inflated proposal was

 

           16              submitted.  The ECTV inflated proposal also

 

           17              included over $50,000 of HD equipment.  The

 

           18              likelihood is that by the time HD reaches

 

           19              the public access channels any equipment

 

           20              bought now would be outdated.  Cable

 

           21              companies are not required to offer HD

 

           22              bandwidths for peg channels and until and

 

           23              unless that ever happens precious HD

 

           24              bandwidth will be used elsewhere.

 

           25                      The proposal requested us taxpayers


 

 

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            1              or we taxpayers to pay for the utilities for

 

            2              the ECTV studios, again, wasn't that clever

 

            3              of Mr. Mansure to give this tax --

 

            4              nonproperty tax paying huge entity this big

 

            5              empty church to ECTV for the rental of only

 

            6              a dollar a year knowing that we sucker

 

            7              taxpayers would also be paying to heat up

 

            8              that huge church and keep his property from

 

            9              deteriorating.  Very clever.

 

           10                      Mr. Tom Welby, who seems to be the

 

           11              selection committee spokesman, has been on

 

           12              talk radio and has said SCTV was eliminated

 

           13              due to past performance.  Now, I ask you

 

           14              again, which is worse, SCTV doing a great

 

           15              job with extremely limited resources or ECTV

 

           16              winning with a highly inflated proposal,

 

           17              again, I would ask you to let your

 

           18              conscience be your guide.  Thank you.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.

 

           20              Schumacher.  Mr. Dobson.

 

           21                      MR. DOBSON: Good morning, Council.

 

           22              Dave Dobson, citizen of Scranton, Taxpayer

 

           23              Association associate.  On Channel 61 I feel

 

           24              it's ashame that people on both sides who

 

           25              once were such good friends and possibly


 

 

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            1              happily employed find themselves at odds

 

            2              over another's whim.  Now, on the coverage,

 

            3              an oversight committee, I can't believe that

 

            4              anyone could be happy with two days a week

 

            5              during the day coverage.  I think that it

 

            6              should be expanded that people of all shifts

 

            7              and should be covered on a rebroadcast

 

            8              schedule, and possibly maybe a weekend to

 

            9              run ads, free ads from the ad council isn't

 

           10              necessarily improvement.  And once again,

 

           11              it's ashame because I see people on both

 

           12              sides of this issue arguing with each other

 

           13              and in disagreements and basically it's over

 

           14              the whim of one person.

 

           15                      Now, on our economic development, I

 

           16              feel once again we need to move to

 

           17              industrial park development, we have an

 

           18              excess of former of coal land called

 

           19              Brownfield.  These lands should be returned

 

           20              to grade, basic infrastructure dealt with

 

           21              and industries solicited.  In surrounding

 

           22              communities, business park development has

 

           23              caused Big Bass Lake and other lakes in

 

           24              these areas to become polluted and raised

 

           25              issues with the residents.  In Waverly we


 

 

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            1              have a big TCE problem and I might add than

 

            2              years back I talked to a federal official on

 

            3              disposal of these and during the 70's it was

 

            4              perfectly legal to dump it into the soil,

 

            5              the trichlormethine causes liver cancer and

 

            6              a number of other maladies and it's in

 

            7              people's wells.  In our city we have the

 

            8              infrastructure to deal with these.

 

            9                      Also, we have the source of

 

           10              population density and it would make mass

 

           11              transit more profitable and available work

 

           12              force in an energy starved environment it

 

           13              could actually flourish.  Please work on

 

           14              policy changes to help society make these

 

           15              changes, these advantages are possibly as

 

           16              valuable or more than Mideast oil.  Where is

 

           17              the oil from Iraq that we were all hearing

 

           18              about a couple of years ago?  Did they think

 

           19              they were just going to drive in there and

 

           20              steal it?  I don't think so.  It sounds very

 

           21              legal to me.

 

           22                      But one parting thought on these

 

           23              firemen, what's it's going to do to our

 

           24              insurance when we are reviewed by insurance

 

           25              agencies and so forth are we going to wind


 

 

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            1              up for what might be $50 extra on our

 

            2              property tax bill to turn around and

 

            3              possibly pay 300 or 400 more on our fire

 

            4              insurance, that's a definite possibility.

 

            5                   Now, I have been asked to ask this by

 

            6              someone else, and I believe it's right, are

 

            7              we happy with what we are seeing on ECTV?

 

            8              Are we happy that the public who works 9 to

 

            9              5 can't see city council because the

 

           10              rebroadcast schedule of ECTV, 2:30 p.m. and

 

           11              9:30 a.m.  Why isn't meetings being

 

           12              broadcast in the evening?

 

           13                      Once again, I feel it's an awful

 

           14              shame.  I don't know, it's probably gone too

 

           15              far for anybody to shake hands and makeup at

 

           16              this time, but it's ashame that's the one or

 

           17              two people or the three people on a

 

           18              committee can decide what everybody else.  I

 

           19              would think being a paying customer of

 

           20              ComCast I should have been asked who I want

 

           21              as a broadcaster and how much money I want

 

           22              donated.  Thank you and have a good day.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.

 

           24              Kevin Murphy.

 

           25                      MR. MURPHY: Good morning, Council.


 

 

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            1              Kevin Murphy, 547 Lincoln Street.  I stand

 

            2              her before you with a unique perspective, I

 

            3              sat on the dais there as a council person

 

            4              and as a council president and now today I

 

            5              speak before you as a taxpayer.  The ECTV

 

            6              issue, it's not -- doesn't seem to be a

 

            7              money issue.  Now, I understand from serving

 

            8              on council that certain monies that are

 

            9              allocated through OECD can be recycled after

 

           10              three years to be used for various projects

 

           11              that don't have to meet the same criteria

 

           12              that an initial application for OECD funding

 

           13              are required to meet.  So, I don't really

 

           14              want to dwell on the funding, although, I

 

           15              think it should be looked into because

 

           16              although you can use that recycled UDAG

 

           17              money for various projects, as I said, I

 

           18              don't believe that you could be given to the

 

           19              Scranton Business Association and them to

 

           20              unilaterally make the decision to give it to

 

           21              another entity.  I think there may be a

 

           22              problem there, but my primary focus and what

 

           23              I want to speak to you about is the

 

           24              accessibility of government and governmental

 

           25              body meetings and the municipal meetings


 

 

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            1              here in Scranton and Lackawanna County.

 

            2              Now, I want to also congratulate Scranton

 

            3              Tomorrow and Scranton Today for the nine

 

            4              years of service and for operating here in

 

            5              these chambers and throughout the city in

 

            6              Lackawanna County, I think they did an

 

            7              excellent job, and as I said, from my

 

            8              perspective as a councilman sitting up there

 

            9              and council president at one point I know

 

           10              how difficult it is, and I respect everyone

 

           11              that sits up there who is running for office

 

           12              and trying your best to serve the public and

 

           13              I would hope that when people come to speak

 

           14              before council as when I sat where you are

 

           15              sitting now that they are respectful and

 

           16              that they make their point and we're able to

 

           17              agree to disagree without too much

 

           18              contentiousness.

 

           19                      But, anyhow, that having been said,

 

           20              and I know that's not only the case, but

 

           21              what I want to talk to you about is the

 

           22              accessibility of these meetings and we have

 

           23              a very diverse working community out there.

 

           24              There is people that work first, second,

 

           25              third shifts in this economic crises that we


 

 

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            1              are currently in.  There is people working

 

            2              two or three jobs, so I think if you

 

            3              contemplate whether or not you are going to

 

            4              allocate the $90,000 in funding for ECTV,

 

            5              and I want to preface this by saying I think

 

            6              Scranton Today did a fantastic job, ECTV,

 

            7              I'm not affiliated with them either, so I'm

 

            8              bipartisan in that regard, but what I want

 

            9              you to consider is you have the same

 

           10              accessibility of these meetings, to planning

 

           11              commission meetings, to the zoning board

 

           12              meetings, to the Sewer Authority meetings

 

           13              that you had under Scranton Today because I

 

           14              think they did an excellent job of getting

 

           15              the message out there.  I think the

 

           16              taxpayers and the people that are sitting

 

           17              and watching in their homes that can't

 

           18              attend a meeting down here at city hall or

 

           19              go to these other meetings can watch it and

 

           20              follow their money because right now more

 

           21              than ever with the gas prices over $4.00 a

 

           22              gallon, property taxes going up, the

 

           23              reassessment there is a lot of critical

 

           24              financial issues that people are facing in

 

           25              their homes and different times, they are


 

 

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            1              here right now.  So now it's mo9re important

 

            2              than ever for them to follow their tax

 

            3              dollars to make sure they are getting the

 

            4              most for their money, so I think that's the

 

            5              critical issue.

 

            6                      So I think before you contemplate or

 

            7              as you are contemplating about allocating

 

            8              that money to ECTV I think you should talk

 

            9              to them first and make sure that the

 

           10              accessibility to these meetings and other

 

           11              governmental body meetings meets the same

 

           12              standard as Scranton Today met, and I think

 

           13              they did an excellent job and I think that's

 

           14              something that you really have to consider

 

           15              because the discourse back and forth and the

 

           16              public exchange between an elected official

 

           17              and regular citizen I think it goes a long

 

           18              way.  It goes a long way in making sure that

 

           19              the integrity of what public access is all

 

           20              about is maintained, and that's letting

 

           21              somebody sit in the comfort of their own

 

           22              home, watching what's going on with their

 

           23              taxpayer dollars and deciding for themselves

 

           24              who is full of hot air, who is not, who has

 

           25              their own agenda, who doesn't, and I think


 

 

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            1              if you trust the people to make their own

 

            2              determinations based on what they see on

 

            3              their own TV I think they are more than

 

            4              fair, but if I could be of any assistance to

 

            5              you and answer any questions I would be more

 

            6              than happy to do so, but I think that's the

 

            7              critical issue here right now is

 

            8              accessibility.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,

 

           10              Mr. Murphy.

 

           11                      MR. MURPHY: Thank you.  Thank you

 

           12              very much.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: I'm sorry, I do agree

 

           14              with your presentation today and I feel

 

           15              strongly about the importance of government

 

           16              meetings being viewed by city taxpayers,

 

           17              however, I believe that perhaps one of the

 

           18              stipulations for the change from one

 

           19              manager/operator to another was that the

 

           20              rebroadcasting of government meetings would

 

           21              cease.  In other words, a live broadcast and

 

           22              perhaps one rebroadcast because apparently

 

           23              that seemed to be one of the issues that the

 

           24              mayor had with Channel 61 under the

 

           25              management of Scranton Today, so though I do


 

 

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            1              agree with you, I think it may be a

 

            2              difficult task to accomplish in order to be

 

            3              able to provide the same number of

 

            4              rebroadcasts that had previously been

 

            5              presented.

 

            6                      But while I have you, I just wanted

 

            7              to ask you one question, if I might.  I

 

            8              noticed in today's paper some movement,

 

            9              shall we say, on the Recovery Plan and as a

 

           10              councilman who voted for the implementation

 

           11              of the Recovery Plan I know you advocated

 

           12              strongly for the Recovery Plan during your

 

           13              tenure on council, what quickly is your

 

           14              perspective on these proposed staffing cuts

 

           15              in the city?

 

           16                      MR. MURPHY:  Well, I didn't come

 

           17              here to prepared to speak about this, but

 

           18              since you asked the question I will be happy

 

           19              to address it.  I think as you sit there and

 

           20              you gather information to make decisions

 

           21              that are in the best interest of the

 

           22              taxpayers of the city as I did when I sat

 

           23              there, you make your best decision based on

 

           24              the information that you are given at that

 

           25              time.


 

 

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            1                      Now we are six years down the line

 

            2              from 2002 when the Recovery Plan was

 

            3              initially adopted and the Recovery Plan was

 

            4              adopted for several different reasons:  One

 

            5              very important reason was we were under

 

            6              state sanction at the time because we didn't

 

            7              have -- we hadn't adopted a Recovery Plan,

 

            8              but we had money, liquid fuels money from

 

            9              the government and the state that was being

 

           10              withheld for roads and bridges and repairs,

 

           11              so we had to make sure that we were going to

 

           12              do the responsible things for the taxpayers

 

           13              because we didn't want any rate increases,

 

           14              we didn't want any tax increases and that

 

           15              was another thing that was thrown out there

 

           16              at the time when the Recovery Plan was

 

           17              adopted, there was going to be a looming 8

 

           18              percent tax increase at that time and with

 

           19              the distressed city status and with the

 

           20              sanctions, the PEL who was involved in the

 

           21              this entire process along with the

 

           22              administration and with council, everyone

 

           23              understood that the Recovery Plan was not

 

           24              something that was written in stone.  As

 

           25              long as you worked within the financial


 

 

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            1              parameters of that Recovery Plan you could

 

            2              do many different things.

 

            3                      I think one critical thing that has

 

            4              happened that I was very unhappy with over

 

            5              these subsequent years is that there has

 

            6              been some hypocritical decisions that seemed

 

            7              to be unfair and don't seem, but are, in

 

            8              fact, unfair because when you are trying to

 

            9              implement a financial recovery plan and at

 

           10              the same time you are creating new jobs and

 

           11              when you are giving huge pay increases to

 

           12              administrative officials and there is only

 

           13              one group sharing the burden I don't think

 

           14              that's right, so in retrospect I believe the

 

           15              decision at that time was the right

 

           16              decision.

 

           17                      I don't believe the stewardship of

 

           18              the plan has been properly carried out.  I

 

           19              think you have to make sure that if you are

 

           20              going to implement a Recovery Plan and

 

           21              especially if you are going to implement the

 

           22              Recovery Plan in a manner in which public

 

           23              safety maybe jeopardized, I don't want to

 

           24              see layoffs for firemen, I don't want to see

 

           25              layoffs for police officers, this is a


 

 

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            1              critical time, our community is changing

 

            2              rapidly and we have gone a long way from

 

            3              2002 to 2006, so some of these decisions

 

            4              that have to be made they have to be made

 

            5              with public safety in mind and I think you

 

            6              always have to be willing to revisit

 

            7              something, look at it and make sure that in

 

            8              the end you are doing the right thing and I

 

            9              think there is some different ways that we

 

           10              could do that, too, and I think Act 47, you

 

           11              know, if amended would help ensure that

 

           12              there is a specific time frame in which to

 

           13              implement the Recovery Plan in a matter

 

           14              which is fair to not only the administration

 

           15              and management, it's also fair to labor,

 

           16              union and the taxpayers because subsequent

 

           17              to 2002 you had a 24 percent tax increase as

 

           18              you are all aware, so was it hypocritical, I

 

           19              believe it was.

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Mr. McGoff, can you

 

           22              just give me a little bit of latitude, I

 

           23              want to ask you a question, Mr. Murphy, and

 

           24              if you don't want to answer it and I can

 

           25              understand, you can just walk away because


 

 

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            1              it's kind of a tough question, all right,

 

            2              and I don't want to put you on the spot?

 

            3                      MR. MURPHY: Well, that wasn't an

 

            4              easy one right there.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  This is probably

 

            6              tougher.  If you were voting right now right

 

            7              today at this minute for the Recovery Plan

 

            8              that you voted for several years ago would

 

            9              you vote yes or no, and all I ask is a yes

 

           10              or no answer.

 

           11                      MR. MURPHY:  Yes, I do respect your

 

           12              question and I do have the advantage of

 

           13              hindsight, but I would say, no.  No.  I

 

           14              wouldn't favor the plan as it stands.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Thank you for

 

           16              answering.  I know that's a tough question.

 

           17                      MR. MURPHY: But initially, as I said

 

           18              when I came up here to speak about ECTV, I

 

           19              think the primary thing that we want to make

 

           20              sure is we don't have restrictive coverage

 

           21              and restrictive coverage is a form of

 

           22              censorship so I think you have to be careful

 

           23              with that, so revisit that and hopefully

 

           24              they can make those accommodations to have

 

           25              these meetings retelevised then I think the


 

 

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            1              taxpayers will benefit from that and I think

 

            2              we will all be in a better place.  Thank you

 

            3              very much.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Murphy.

 

            5              Any other speakers?

 

            6                      MR. LYMAN: Raymond Lyman.  Mrs.

 

            7              Evans, can I ask you a question?  Would you

 

            8              do me a favor?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: I could try.

 

           10                      MR. LYMAN:  Would you write a letter

 

           11              to the Supreme Court for a question?  How

 

           12              could Mayor Doherty circumvent the

 

           13              constitution to allow ECTV to be put on the

 

           14              air violating the law because Scranton

 

           15              Today's rights were violated because, number

 

           16              one, how could he do that for the people of

 

           17              Scranton, they should have been voted on to

 

           18              do that because ECTV they don't run city

 

           19              council meetings, they only ran it once at

 

           20              2:30 and they didn't run it after that

 

           21              because when I was watching it they cut it

 

           22              off three times when I was watching it at

 

           23              2:30, they ran it when Sam Patilla and then

 

           24              it went off, and then it came back on the

 

           25              air and then after Bill Courtright was


 

 

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            1              speaking then it went off again and then

 

            2              when McGoff was threatened about a lawsuit

 

            3              against me then it went off again and the

 

            4              voice was so low I couldn't even hear it.

 

            5                   And, Mr. McGoff, my friend told me if

 

            6              you threatened me with a lawsuit I will sue

 

            7              your pants off, violation of my civil rights

 

            8              because every time I come to these meetings

 

            9              my lawyer told me violation of my civil

 

           10              rights were violated because you never

 

           11              threatened these people here.  Every time I

 

           12              come up here my five minutes was never up

 

           13              because I tape these meetings because it's

 

           14              never five minutes, so shut your mouth.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.

 

           16                      MR. LYMAN:  I got an envelope here.

 

           17              Remember last week you said I had to give

 

           18              you --

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Lyman.

 

           20                      MR. LYMAN: -- an envelope --

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Lyman.

 

           22                      MR. LYMAN: This is my five minutes.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, it's going to be

 

           24              cut short if you continue.

 

           25                      MR. LYMAN: Point of order.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Exactly.

 

            2                      MR. LYMAN: Just like Fay Franus says

 

            3              every time.  Shut your mouth.

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, Ray.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Ray.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Please leave the podium.

 

            7                      MS. FANUCCI: You are going to have

 

            8              to leave.

 

            9                      MR. LYMAN: Let me speak.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Please leave the podium.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Ray.

 

           12                      MR. LYMAN: No, let me speak.  Just

 

           13              like when Fay Franus --

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Ray, you are not doing

 

           15              yourself any favors here.  Please leave the

 

           16              podium.

 

           17                      MR. LYMAN: No, I want to speak.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Raymond, can I just

 

           19              say something to you?

 

           20                      MR. LYMAN: I want to speak.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay, I'LL hold

 

           22              your time for a minute, don't tell him to

 

           23              shut up or anything like that.

 

           24                      MR. LYMAN: No, I'm not --

 

           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You can't do that


 

 

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            1              and they are going to have to remove you and

 

            2              everyone is going to be all upset.  Nobody

 

            3              wants the officer to remove you, try to

 

            4              remain calm, you can't tell him to shut up,

 

            5              you can't do that, all right?  Please.  Try

 

            6              to be decent and everybody will allow you to

 

            7              speak, but you can't -- whether you like it

 

            8              or not he is a council person and you can't

 

            9              tell him to shut up.

 

           10                      MR. LYMAN: When I became mayor.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: When you become

 

           12              mayor that will be wonderful, but, please.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Please leave the podium.

 

           14              When you can speak more responsibly then you

 

           15              can return.

 

           16                      MR. LYMAN: I'm not fighting with

 

           17              you, I'm sorry.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Your time is up.  Thank

 

           19              you.

 

           20                      MR. LYMAN: I have a couple of

 

           21              questions I just want to ask.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Your time is up.  Thank

 

           23              you.

 

           24                      MR. LYMAN: Well, my five minutes

 

           25              ain't up.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes, it is.

 

            2                      MR. LYMAN: I didn't hear the bell.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Your time is up.

 

            4                      MR. LYMAN: Okay, I'll just sue your

 

            5              pants off, violation of my civil rights.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

            7                      MR. LYMAN: We'll see you in Court,

 

            8              Mr. McGoff.  I'll see you in Court.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  My apologies

 

           10              for the comments.  Mr. Ungvarsky.

 

           11                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  Good morning, city

 

           12              council, I'm Tom Ungvarsky and I'm a member

 

           13              of the Scranton Lackawanna County Taxpayers

 

           14              Association.  It's still unclear to me how

 

           15              this process of evolved that we selected

 

           16              ECTV and perhaps you can answer a few more

 

           17              questions for me.  Do we know how many

 

           18              meetings the three-member panel had and how

 

           19              much time they devoted to selecting ECTV?

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           21                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Now, are there any

 

           22              follow-up questions -- yes, ma'am.

 

           23                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           24                      MR. UNGVARSKY: No, were there any

 

           25              follow-ups to any of the other bidders for


 

 

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            1              this Channel 61?  Were the proposals

 

            2              submitted by the others?

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI: You mean, Mr. Ozzie

 

            4              Quinn and that proposal, the one that Ozzie

 

            5              Quinn put in?  There was follow-up and I

 

            6              believe that that was basically funding by

 

            7              -- they were looking for funding also by

 

            8              government and also private entities.

 

            9                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Were there any

 

           10              face-to-face meetings with them?

 

           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  With them?

 

           12                      MR. UNGVARSKY: With anyone.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm not sure.  That

 

           14              would be the committee's process.

 

           15                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Wan anyone proposed

 

           16              to take over the channel, were there any

 

           17              face-to-face meetings with them?

 

           18                      MS. EVANS: I don't know.

 

           19                      MR. UNGVARSKY: Were there any

 

           20              follow-up questions, I mean, when somebody

 

           21              puts a proposal on the desk I'm sure there

 

           22              is questions that someone would have, did

 

           23              they ask, did this three-member panel ask

 

           24              anyone, any other follow-up questions?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: I don't know.


 

 

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            1                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  It seems to me as

 

            2              though everything here was done in a vacuum

 

            3              and was there own one meeting and was that

 

            4              in the mayor's office?

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: I don't know.

 

            6                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  Well, maybe before

 

            7              you even vote on this you could find out

 

            8              those answers, also.  Mrs. Fanucci, ten

 

            9              weeks ago I asked you a question about a

 

           10              SECCAS, LLC if they were going to be coming

 

           11              to town or if they were just looking for the

 

           12              best offer from someone.  I understand that

 

           13              they got $2 million from the State of

 

           14              Pennsylvania or it was proposed that they

 

           15              get $2 million.  Have we heard anything more

 

           16              about that, you were supposed to find an

 

           17              answer out for me.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: I was supposed to find

 

           19              an answer on it, and I did not find out

 

           20              anything more on that, but I will still look

 

           21              into that for you.  Yeah, I did not find

 

           22              anything more on that.

 

           23                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  So perhaps they are

 

           24              just looking for the best bid then I guess.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm not sure, but


 

 

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            1              nobody is coming out and giving me that as a

 

            2              final answer either, but I will continue on

 

            3              that for your.

 

            4                      MR. UNGVARSKY:  Okay, maybe you can

 

            5              ask some of those questions in your motions.

 

            6              Thank you.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

            8              Mr. Ungvarsky.  Anyone else?

 

            9                      MS. KRAKE: Good morning, council.

 

           10              The mayor and his administration are now

 

           11              playing a very dangerous game shooting from

 

           12              the hip and with no plan in place the mayor

 

           13              will be deciding who gets police and fire

 

           14              coverage and who doesn't.  Will the mayor

 

           15              close fire stations in rich neighborhoods or

 

           16              poor?  Take a look at his record for the

 

           17              past seven years and it's obvious some

 

           18              people count in this city and some people do

 

           19              not.  We all note there is no economic

 

           20              savings when this administration cuts jobs.

 

           21              I think the past councilman that just stood

 

           22              at this podium is well aware of that.  The

 

           23              clerical union lost 30 plus jobs and the

 

           24              mayor gobbled up that money and more for his

 

           25              patronage middle management jobs.  This is


 

 

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            1              about control and ultimately the abuse of

 

            2              taxpayers' moneys.

 

            3                      Our city budget has grown nearly

 

            4              $30 million since Doherty has been in

 

            5              office.  None of that excessive bloat went

 

            6              to raises for clerical, police and fire.

 

            7              Now, to be honest, the clerks did get a

 

            8              small raise in this year's budget.  Five

 

            9              million of it and more went to raises for

 

           10              the administration.  You can't forget the

 

           11              27 percent tax increase or the over 220

 

           12              million in long-term debt.  Any further

 

           13              reduction in workers would only impact the

 

           14              safety of the citizens in Scranton.

 

           15                      The unions have already given and

 

           16              given and given.  Fire lost 50 jobs in '93

 

           17              and police have lost at least that many

 

           18              since we have been distressed.  If the

 

           19              Recovery Plan were to being enacted a

 

           20              handful of consultants and lobbyists

 

           21              basically bureaucrats in Harrisburg will

 

           22              decide the distribution of our city's

 

           23              resources just like Chris Doherty when he

 

           24              was councilman went to DCED and demanded we

 

           25              be distressed, I would like to invite


 

 

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            1              council people to come with us and address

 

            2              DCED and demand we are taken out from under

 

            3              the distressed status and out from the

 

            4              Pennsylvania Economy League and their

 

            5              oppressive control as they run and ruin our

 

            6              lives and our city.  It's time.  It's time

 

            7              now before this goes any further to give the

 

            8              city, it's resources and our lives back to

 

            9              everyone, all of the citizens.  Thank you.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.

 

           11                      MR. GERVASI:  Good morning, City

 

           12              Council, my name is Dave Gervasi and I'm the

 

           13              vice president of the firefighter's union

 

           14              and a resident of the City of Scranton.  I

 

           15              guess you probably know why I'm here today.

 

           16              There was some more inaccurate information

 

           17              put out by the Scranton Times in this

 

           18              administration this morning and it said that

 

           19              the mayor just got the right to cut 38

 

           20              firefighters.  That is completely and

 

           21              unequivocally not true.  That hearing that

 

           22              happened yesterday was on the police

 

           23              department, unfortunately, on the police

 

           24              department.  The only thing that was brought

 

           25              up at this hearing about the fire department


 

 

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            1              was the city's legal representation, this is

 

            2              according to my attorney, the city's legal

 

            3              representation, mentioned the fire

 

            4              department and said that we have no plans

 

            5              for the fire department at this time.  That

 

            6              decision came down yesterday exclusively on

 

            7              the police officers, not the fire

 

            8              department, so what you read in the paper

 

            9              today is once again false.

 

           10                      Now, we did file for a stay when the

 

           11              city was talking about implementing the

 

           12              Recovery Plan before the cases settled.  The

 

           13              fire department and the police in concert

 

           14              filed for a stay.  We lost that part of it,

 

           15              but nothing was discussed about the fire

 

           16              department, so don't believe what you read

 

           17              in the paper again.

 

           18                      Unfortunately, for the police

 

           19              officers they want to cut the longevity pay

 

           20              of those officers which for any officer that

 

           21              was hired after January 16, 2003, very

 

           22              unfortunately, one-third of the police

 

           23              officers that are working at this time were

 

           24              hired after the January 1st of 2003 since

 

           25              the mayor chased all of our experienced


 

 

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            1              officers out the door back in 2002.  To make

 

            2              matters worse, these same police officers

 

            3              have been living without any cost of living

 

            4              adjustments in the last seven years and that

 

            5              third is going to lose a few percentage

 

            6              points in their salaries.  They are going to

 

            7              take a cut in pay.  I don't know if you are

 

            8              real concerned about this, but I believe, if

 

            9              I'm correct, I believe 12 officers have

 

           10              already left the police department for

 

           11              greener pastures because when you have wage

 

           12              freezes and less than cost of living raises

 

           13              over and over and over again since 1992

 

           14              right now just in the fire department we are

 

           15              $15,000, our salaries, $15,000 under the

 

           16              median salary of a comparable city in the

 

           17              City of Pennsylvania and cities within our

 

           18              own region in the northeast, $15,000 and the

 

           19              police are in about the same boat we are.

 

           20                   So, I don't know if you people really

 

           21              care, I know some of you do, but do you

 

           22              really care that we are going to lose our

 

           23              finest police officers?  There are some

 

           24              great officers.  Sergeant Paul Duffy who I

 

           25              personally know very, very well, he is


 

 

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            1              actually married to one of my relatives, one

 

            2              of the finest officers to ever walk this

 

            3              beat in the City of Scranton, he is gone.

 

            4              He can't take it anymore.  It's unfair.

 

            5              It's disgusting and this Recovery Plan is

 

            6              Draconian and it was nice to see Councilman

 

            7              Murphy here today tell the truth about if he

 

            8              had to vote on it today would he vote on the

 

            9              Recovery Plan.  The people were misinformed

 

           10              about the Recovery Plan and the word

 

           11              couldn't get out because the newspaper kept

 

           12              it out and kept protecting this

 

           13              administration from day one.  The plan is

 

           14              Draconian, it's disgusting, it's unworkable,

 

           15              parts of it our illegal and it never should

 

           16              have been voted on, but I can understand the

 

           17              residents when you are threatened with a tax

 

           18              increase.

 

           19                      One other thing I would like to

 

           20              bring up about why we are going to make

 

           21              these police officers suffer and maybe in

 

           22              two months make the fire department suffer

 

           23              when we hit that stage of this Court case,

 

           24              we had a woman with a PhD in economy do a

 

           25              financial analysis of our city's finances


 

 

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            1              based on the true numbers, not what you read

 

            2              in the paper about their deficits, the true

 

            3              numbers within our end of the year audits,

 

            4              our financial audits, independent audits.

 

            5              The city right now according to this PhD in

 

            6              economy who I think is much more qualified

 

            7              than anyone that works for the city,

 

            8              especially in this administration, we are

 

            9              sitting on a $11.7 million surplus for the

 

           10              end of 2006 and the mayor should know that,

 

           11              raised your taxes, our taxes, 25 percent

 

           12              when it wasn't necessary and now he wants to

 

           13              knock off 37 firefighters if happens in

 

           14              Court.

 

           15                      Well, just so everyone knows that 38

 

           16              firefighters is going to add up to

 

           17              approximately $2.4 million in savings if it

 

           18              happens, you are probably going to have

 

           19              engine company closures, I don't know which

 

           20              neighborhood is going to suffer over that

 

           21              and increase response times, but they never

 

           22              had to raise your taxes, we know this as a

 

           23              fact, never had to your raise your taxes and

 

           24              they don't have to cut the police department

 

           25              or the fire department, they don't have to


 

 

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            1              make these police officers suffer now, which

 

            2              we heard they are going to try to do to

 

            3              them, it's all been a lie and it's all been

 

            4              a lie that's been repeated in the paper

 

            5              every single day and I'll give you any

 

            6              documentation you want to see to back up

 

            7              what I just said today.  Thank you for your

 

            8              time.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gervasi.

 

           10                      MR.:  Hello, Bill.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Hi, Chris.

 

           12                      MR.: Billy, one thing, there is

 

           13              crime in the city, we need the police to

 

           14              provide the protection in the city, we just

 

           15              can't allow to let anymore go.  Thank you.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Okay, Chris.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mrs.

 

           18              Evans?

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Good morning.

 

           20              Since our last council meeting several

 

           21              beneficial announcements have occurred.  The

 

           22              long vacant Sunoco station on Mulberry

 

           23              Street will be transformed into a Dunkin

 

           24              Donuts Shop.  Also, Mr. Oleski, deputy

 

           25              director of public safety is embarking on a


 

 

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            1              cleanup of 70 abandoned lots throughout the

 

            2              city with the help of the DPW employees, of

 

            3              course.  City residents have complained of

 

            4              these eyesores in their neighborhoods

 

            5              throughout my five years as a councilwoman,

 

            6              so I am pleased that many blighted

 

            7              properties finally will be addressed.

 

            8                      Last Friday, July 4, I attended the

 

            9              annual Independence Day celebration at the

 

           10              Nay Aug Park Swim Complex.  This beautiful

 

           11              event sponsored by the American Flag

 

           12              Committee included representation by

 

           13              military veterans of all wars and conflicts.

 

           14              I'd like to particularly recognize Mr. Frank

 

           15              Tyron, event organizer, the Ringhold band

 

           16              under the direction of Ted Riggy, and the

 

           17              outstanding soloist, Mary Rita Stuckard, for

 

           18              their roles in making these celebrations so

 

           19              successful.

 

           20                      I'm also pleased that the Southern

 

           21              Union building will be occupied in the near

 

           22              future.  I'll be own more pleased when it

 

           23              goes back on the tax rolls.

 

           24                      Yet another beneficial announcements

 

           25              for this area is the $4 million allocation


 

 

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            1              and approval for the Commonwealth Medical

 

            2              College.  The location of this institution

 

            3              in our city will address local health

 

            4              concerns by hopefully replenishing the

 

            5              dwindling number of physicians and

 

            6              specialists and by offering a level of

 

            7              health care that will make us competitive

 

            8              with institutions outside of our area,

 

            9              thereby, decreasing the need of our citizens

 

           10              to seek medical treatment in New York or

 

           11              Philadelphia, etcetera.

 

           12                      Next, let's turn out our attention

 

           13              to questionable issues of crucial concern to

 

           14              the taxpayers.  Last week the mayor

 

           15              announced that he had given $10,000 in UDAG

 

           16              funds to the East Scranton Business

 

           17              Association in order that this association

 

           18              could then give that same $10,000 to ECTV.

 

           19              He further elaborated that on March 9, 2006,

 

           20              $577,000 in UDAG funds was approved for

 

           21              various city projects by three members of

 

           22              council, thereby, giving him the right to

 

           23              spend these federal funds in any way he

 

           24              decides.  According to the minutes of the

 

           25              March 9, 2006, council meeting, however, any


 

 

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            1              project funded by the $577,000 UDAG monies

 

            2              must receive council approval.

 

            3                      Now, I had planned on asking

 

            4              Attorney Minora these questions, Attorney

 

            5              Williams are you employed in his law firm?

 

            6                      MR. WILLIAMS: I am.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS: Then, perhaps you could

 

            8              pass these questions onto him.

 

            9                      MR. WILLIAMS:  I would be happy to

 

           10              do that.

 

           11                      MS. EVANS: Do these UDAG funds

 

           12              require the knowledge and consent of city

 

           13              council before they can be given out by the

 

           14              mayor and if Mr. Minora determines that,

 

           15              indeed, this is appropriate and legal

 

           16              process I ask that he put his opinion in

 

           17              writing and I also ask for a copy of any

 

           18              source to document his opinion.  Thank you.

 

           19                   Since these funds are taxpayers' money

 

           20              they should decide if this $10,000 grant

 

           21              passes the smell test.  Some have stated

 

           22              that I am anti-ECTV and this is not true.  I

 

           23              attended the ECTV open house because I

 

           24              wanted to be open minded and learn about

 

           25              ECTV firsthand.  As I toured the basement of


 

 

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            1              933 Prescott Avenue with Mr. Balton, the

 

            2              area was in such good condition that I

 

            3              thought perhaps the renovations had already

 

            4              begun.  When I asked Mr. Balton if the work

 

            5              was already underway, he answered that, no,

 

            6              no renovations had yet begun, ECTV was

 

            7              waiting for it's appearance the following

 

            8              week before the city's zoning board for a

 

            9              variance before it would begin any

 

           10              renovations.

 

           11                      Mayor Doherty also stated last week

 

           12              that he gave the UDAG funds to the East

 

           13              Scranton Business Association to give to

 

           14              ECTV to he eliminate blight in the basement

 

           15              of 933 Prescott Avenue, the location of

 

           16              ECTV's studio and offices.

 

           17                      Consequently, I ask when the

 

           18              basement of this church at 933 Prescott

 

           19              Avenue or the property itself was declared

 

           20              blighted.  I would also like an explanation

 

           21              of how it was blighted.  Therefore, with

 

           22              council's approval I would like to send a

 

           23              letter to OECD requesting written responses

 

           24              to these questions on or before July 21,

 

           25              2008?  Is that agreeable?  Thank you.


 

 

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            1                      On another topic, Council received a

 

            2              letter from Attorney David Solfanelli

 

            3              yesterday stating that council's request for

 

            4              Mr. McDowell to appear and public comments

 

            5              relating to his tenure as tax collector are

 

            6              purely for political purposes rather than

 

            7              the pursuit of any legitimate inquiry.  He

 

            8              goes on further to say that these actions

 

            9              make it apparent that council does not

 

           10              desire an informative meeting with McDowell.

 

           11                   In order to put such accusations to

 

           12              rest, I move to begin an investigation into

 

           13              the 12.2 million dollars that was discovered

 

           14              in an account of the Single Tax Office and

 

           15              the performance of the duties and

 

           16              responsibilities as prescribed by law of the

 

           17              former tax collector, Kenneth McDowell, as

 

           18              they relate to the City of Scranton.

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI: I just have a question,

 

           20              how are we -- what are we going to do to do

 

           21              that?  What's the process that you are

 

           22              looking for, that's what I think should be

 

           23              involved in the motion.  You know,

 

           24              investigate, who is investigating, how is to

 

           25              be investigating and what are we actually


 

 

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            1              saying, so I think if you include that it

 

            2              might be helpful.

 

            3                      MS. EVANS: Well, I can tell you that

 

            4              I'm making the motion to begin the

 

            5              investigation in order that Mrs. Gatelli,

 

            6              our finance chair, is able to make her

 

            7              motion for subpoenas today.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI: So, we are all -- okay.

 

            9              All right.  Then, yes, I will second that.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: Yes, because we according

 

           11              to Pennsylvania Code, and I believe --

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  We are allowed to

 

           13              investigate, but I wasn't sure that she was

 

           14              going to -- maybe we should do it all in

 

           15              one.

 

           16                      MS. GATELLI: I was going to make

 

           17              both of them, I think that's why she --

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: Why don't we do it at

 

           19              all once?  Can we pull it all at once and

 

           20              we'll make it and send it right --

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: Well, actually, I think

 

           22              you need the motion for the investigation

 

           23              first so that you are on the record

 

           24              documenting that --

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Okay.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS: -- an investigation has

 

            2              been initiated.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question, I

 

            5              would just like to say this, I believe that

 

            6              Mr. Minora had stated to us in the past in

 

            7              order for us to subpoena that we did have to

 

            8              have an investigation, so this motion would

 

            9              enable Mrs. Gatelli to make her subpoena --

 

           10              or the investigation will enable

 

           11              Mrs. Gatelli to make her subpoenas.

 

           12                      MS. EVANS: And, again, these rights

 

           13              and authorities are granted by not only

 

           14              Scranton's Home Rule Charter, but by the

 

           15              Pennsylvania Code as well and I believe the

 

           16              Pennsylvania Code provides that city council

 

           17              may issue subpoenas for testimony and books,

 

           18              records, etcetera, in any pending

 

           19              investigation, inquiry or impeachment case.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: I would just like to

 

           22              ask, what do you feel we can accomplish by

 

           23              this investigation?  The tax office and the

 

           24              Mr. McDowell had been investigated, I

 

           25              believe there have been three


 

 

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            1              investigations, and while I do believe that

 

            2              Mr. McDowell does, you know, perhaps should

 

            3              answer some questions, I just don't know

 

            4              what the intent of an investigation would be

 

            5              and what purpose it would serve.

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, I'm going to say

 

            7              you, I seconded it, and my problem is not

 

            8              exactly the investigation that's ongoing

 

            9              with just him, but we have not been able to

 

           10              get any answers within the current office.

 

           11              They have not been forthright and

 

           12              forthcoming with what we need and for some

 

           13              reason there has been lot of very bad

 

           14              attitude and very negligent answers.  They

 

           15              are not even responding to us asking them to

 

           16              respond.  So, to me obviously there is some

 

           17              reason and if it takes this to get whatever

 

           18              answers we need then that's how it's going

 

           19              be.

 

           20                      We did give many opportunities for

 

           21              them to come here and speak to us and try to

 

           22              find out exactly what we needed during that

 

           23              time and the first appearance was wonderful,

 

           24              obviously, we had tons more questions that

 

           25              were still not addressed.  And, you know, I


 

 

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            1              understand the investigation with the FBI

 

            2              and that is a separate issue as far as I'm

 

            3              concerned, a very separate issue.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: It is separate from the

 

            5              12 million and I, too, feel that they are

 

            6              not being forthright.  A large amount of

 

            7              that I believe is part of the City of

 

            8              Scranton's money and I am counting on that

 

            9              money for next year's budget.  The forensic

 

           10              audit hasn't been started yet, that's been

 

           11              waylaid for whatever reason and from my

 

           12              conversations with Attorney Minora

 

           13              concerning Mr. McDowell for some reason they

 

           14              had to get permission from the current tax

 

           15              collector for him to come here.

 

           16                      The 12 million is not part of the

 

           17              FBI investigation, it is separate, and

 

           18              without the forensic audit and a subpoena

 

           19              from us to answer some questions that we

 

           20              would see relevant I think it's absolutely

 

           21              necessary.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI: And I'm going to

 

           23              comment, they are dragging their feet.

 

           24              There is no reason that that audit should be

 

           25              taking this long to even get started, let


 

 

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            1              alone to be, I mean, it would be one thing

 

            2              to, okay, give the person the time to do the

 

            3              audit, but to be able to go out and make the

 

            4              audit happen is taking entirely too much

 

            5              time.  And I have to make decisions based on

 

            6              voting for the people in the city and taxes

 

            7              and money and I can't do that unless I know

 

            8              exactly what we are entitled to out of that

 

            9              money, if any, so, to me, yeah, it is very

 

           10              important from where I sit to be able to

 

           11              make these decisions.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI: Also, I received a

 

           13              response from Stu Renda concerning the

 

           14              independent audit and many of the questions

 

           15              are for the Single Tax Office, so they are

 

           16              even as we speak not answering the audit and

 

           17              questions.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: Questions, yeah.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI: So, that also has been

 

           20              the problem with our independent audit.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: But, again, that was the

 

           22              case for each of the past years under the

 

           23              prior tax collector.  The office was not

 

           24              rapidly forthcoming in providing information

 

           25              to Rossi and Sons in any of the last three


 

 

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            1              years at least, but I believe Mr. McDowell

 

            2              holds the key to the situation.  This was

 

            3              his elected office.  He oversaw the account

 

            4              into which 12.2 million dollars was

 

            5              deposited.  He holds the answer as to why he

 

            6              would comingle funds rather than keep them

 

            7              separate according to state tax laws.  There

 

            8              are many laws that were not followed under

 

            9              his tenure and --

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Those deposits were

 

           11              made even prior to him, so what does that

 

           12              mean?  How come we can't get these answers?

 

           13              It seems almost absurd that we can't find

 

           14              out with today's technology exactly what we

 

           15              need to know.  We are not asking for the

 

           16              FBI's information because this is a totally

 

           17              separate issue.  So, to hide behind that

 

           18              seems almost irrelevant at this time.  We

 

           19              are at the stage now --

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: I think it's important

 

           21              though, I'm sorry.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Go ahead, it's your

 

           23              time.

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: I think it's important to

 

           25              note that Mr. McDowell's attorney seems to


 

 

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            1              feel that the current tax collector and her

 

            2              solicitor have created this problem.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.  Right.

 

            4                      MR. EVANS: Not Mr. McDowell.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Which is amazing, so

 

            6              who is right and who is wrong?  And this is

 

            7              what we need to know and I don't think any

 

            8              of us don't agree, I mean, I'm not speaking

 

            9              for everyone, but I certainly think that is

 

           10              something that is extremely major as far as

 

           11              the taxpayers are concerned.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Could you just repeat

 

           13              the motion so that we are sure again?

 

           14                      MS. EVANS: Certainly.  I move to

 

           15              begin an investigation into the 12.2 million

 

           16              dollars that was discovered in an account of

 

           17              the Single Tax Office and the performance of

 

           18              the duties and responsibilities as

 

           19              prescribed by law of the former tax

 

           20              collector for Kenneth McDowell as they

 

           21              relate to the City of Scranton.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI: And I seconded it.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI: She seconded.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: It was seconded.  All

 

           25              those in favor signify by saying aye.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            6              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  I also have

 

            8              citizens' request for the last week.  112

 

            9              Ridgeview Drive, just above this property

 

           10              there is a road problem that causes storm

 

           11              water to fail to travel to the gully and the

 

           12              pipes on this street.  As a result, the road

 

           13              is beginning to deteriorate and the water

 

           14              and debris collected in front of 114

 

           15              RidgeView Drive.  I ask that Mr. Brazil and

 

           16              the city engineer examine this location to

 

           17              determine a possible solution as soon as

 

           18              possible. Amd pave Cooper Avenue on to

 

           19              Gordan Place.

 

           20                      And, finally, vehicles have resumed

 

           21              parking on the sidewalk at 916, 918, 820 and

 

           22              932 1/2 Greenridge Street.  According to

 

           23              residents of Greenridge Street violators

 

           24              were previously warned, I know that to be

 

           25              the case because I have been keeping an eye


 

 

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            1              on that area and I did see the problem clear

 

            2              for two or three weeks, but it has returned,

 

            3              so please address this safety hazard

 

            4              appropriately, and that's it.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Evans.

 

            6              Mrs. Gatelli.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.  To answer

 

            8              Mrs. Schumacher I did receive a response

 

            9              from my request last week to Mr. Renda and

 

           10              he said that the office maintains their

 

           11              focus to complete the audit, however,

 

           12              noticed that four items listed on the recent

 

           13              report are dependent on related parties,

 

           14              authorities and the Single Tax Office, so I

 

           15              would ask, Kay is not here, Neil, are you

 

           16              taking the requests?  Ask her to please

 

           17              contact Mr. Renda and find out which

 

           18              authorities need to answer and the Single

 

           19              Tax Office and send them a letter to give

 

           20              their information to Mr. Rossi as

 

           21              expediently as possible as council is

 

           22              becoming anxious to receive our audit.

 

           23                      We had another complaint, I think it

 

           24              was Mr. Spindler, I don't see him here now

 

           25              about the University of Scranton.  We did


 

 

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            1              actually receive correspondence from the

 

            2              University of Scranton.  The University of

 

            3              Scranton allowed the International

 

            4              Spanish Soccer League to play at the complex

 

            5              on Sundays in 2007 and again in 2008 free of

 

            6              charge.  The University has not charged the

 

            7              soccer league to play there.  The University

 

            8              continues to make the facility available for

 

            9              public use.  The fall softball league was

 

           10              offered the fields free of charge in 2007,

 

           11              it opted not to use them.

 

           12                      And anybody is welcome to see this

 

           13              correspondence from the University of

 

           14              Scranton.  I'm not saying that I don't

 

           15              believe you, but I don't know if they would

 

           16              be putting it in this writing that they are

 

           17              not charging anybody.  If someone is being

 

           18              charged maybe they can contact us and tell

 

           19              us who they are paying and we can

 

           20              investigate further, but we can only go by

 

           21              documents that we receive, you know,

 

           22              official documents from the University.

 

           23                      MS. EVANS: Mrs. Gatelli, while you

 

           24              are on that, I think somewhere in that

 

           25              letter it is stated that the field is open


 

 

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            1              to the public or can be available for public

 

            2              use, I'd like to ask the University of

 

            3              Scranton then why they refused the softball

 

            4              leagues.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Okay.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: That I do know for a fact

 

            7              as well, not just in summer but last summer

 

            8              as well.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: Just the summer leagues

 

           10              because it says they offered them to the

 

           11              fall, the fall leagues were offered.  You

 

           12              want to know about the summer leagues?  The

 

           13              next thing is the vacant lots that being

 

           14              cleaned up by Mr. Oleski, I have seen some

 

           15              of the workers out cleaning the lots, but I

 

           16              want to make people aware that Mr. Gerry

 

           17              Langan of the Goodwill Industries on the

 

           18              corner of Prospect Avenue and Maple Street

 

           19              has called and the community service they

 

           20              have offered to cut and clean some of the

 

           21              lots in the nearby vicinity of their

 

           22              facility over on Prospect Avenue, so I would

 

           23              like to publically thank him for his

 

           24              commitment and hopefully by hearing this

 

           25              announcement other businesses that have


 

 

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            1              access to lawnmowers and weed whackers

 

            2              around their businesses maybe will offer to

 

            3              clean some of the city owned public lots

 

            4              that are overgrown and I certainly would

 

            5              encourage that as a community service.

 

            6                      The Friendship House, my friend, Ron

 

            7              Ellman, who hasn't picked me up on the

 

            8              motorcycle yet just so you know that, was

 

            9              talking about the Friendship House and I

 

           10              think that he misunderstood the money of the

 

           11              Friendship House.  He said that the

 

           12              Friendship House donated money to the city

 

           13              and was taking it back.  It is not money

 

           14              that was given by the Friendship House, it

 

           15              was OECD money of a project that we had

 

           16              approved.  The Friendship House will not be

 

           17              ready to do that project for several more

 

           18              years so they felt it unfair to tie up that

 

           19              money when they are, in fact, are not ready

 

           20              to use it, so I just wanted to clarify that

 

           21              Friendship House money.

 

           22                      As far as the $577,000 that was put

 

           23              into an account of UDAG to be used for

 

           24              various projects, yes, I was under the

 

           25              impression the projects would come to city


 

 

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            1              council as I stated at that meeting, not all

 

            2              of them.  The dog park never came before us,

 

            3              although, we knew it was happening.  The

 

            4              tree house didn't come before us.  All of

 

            5              the properties that were demolished I don't

 

            6              believe came before us, and my only concern

 

            7              is, yes, I still believe they should come

 

            8              before us.  I would like to see the projects

 

            9              that are being approved even though it is

 

           10              UDAG money.  I can't remember when I was

 

           11              there if we did any without council's

 

           12              approval, I would have to go back along way.

 

           13              I hope that we did when we are there get

 

           14              approval from council, but, you know, maybe

 

           15              we didn't either, so I don't want to be too

 

           16              hard on them if it was done in the past.

 

           17                      My other concern about that is if it

 

           18              can't be done and it shouldn't be done why

 

           19              does Roseann Novembrino sign the vouchers

 

           20              for those projects to be done, so apparently

 

           21              the original legislation is enough for her

 

           22              to sign all of the vouchers because they

 

           23              have all been signed by her, and I know

 

           24              Roseann is very prudent in checking out the

 

           25              funds, so maybe we can also send a note to


 

 

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            1              her, Neil, if she has done that in the past

 

            2              and have her solicitor also look at it and

 

            3              see what the deal is there.  Maybe when we

 

            4              get all of the information we can do some

 

            5              type of a motion that we do require it if it

 

            6              is not already required and just being

 

            7              circumvented because I, too, would like to

 

            8              have a say in the money that's gone through

 

            9              UDAG money.

 

           10                      The firemen.  I was not happy to

 

           11              read about the fire department in the paper

 

           12              today or the police department.  As you

 

           13              know, I've always been an advocate for the

 

           14              police department, as a neighborhood leader

 

           15              that's what you want in your neighborhood is

 

           16              more police always, you never have enough

 

           17              police officers and almost every call that I

 

           18              contact the mayor for is a police issue.  I

 

           19              just talked to him yesterday about a problem

 

           20              in an housing development near my house

 

           21              where neighbors were complaining about the

 

           22              fireworks until 3:30 in the morning and the

 

           23              boom boxes that rattle your windows which we

 

           24              have to deal with at 3:00 and 4:00 in the

 

           25              morning, so police issues are very much on


 

 

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            1              the forefront.

 

            2                      And as far as the fire department,

 

            3              they tried to close my firehouse several

 

            4              times of which Mr. Gervasi knows I have it,

 

            5              I could bring it in, I have 10 or 12,000

 

            6              signatures that Mayor Connors and I went

 

            7              around South Side in Minooka and obtained,

 

            8              so I won't be happy if my firehouse is

 

            9              closed, I'll tell you the truth about that.

 

           10              I won't be a happy camper.

 

           11                      But, I'm going to say this, everyone

 

           12              needs to sit down.  It has come to this

 

           13              level because people are not sitting down

 

           14              together.  We have a contract in the school

 

           15              district coming up.  We know nothing about

 

           16              it as the workers.  Our leader is meeting

 

           17              with the school negotiators.  We don't know

 

           18              what they are negotiating about and we won't

 

           19              know that until it is brought before us, but

 

           20              they are sitting down and they are trying to

 

           21              cooperate and compromise and sometimes you

 

           22              win a little piece and sometimes you lose a

 

           23              little piece, but I think this is has gone

 

           24              on long enough.  Six years is a long time

 

           25              and I think that everybody needs to sit


 

 

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            1              down.

 

            2                      Like Mr. Dobson said about Channel

 

            3              61, it's all about getting along and it's

 

            4              all about you give me a glass of water and

 

            5              I'll give you a half a glass and let's talk

 

            6              about it and let's try to settle it.

 

            7              Fighting about it is not getting anybody

 

            8              anywhere.  Everybody is hanging onto their

 

            9              own turf and rightfully so, I'd hang onto

 

           10              mine, too.  I'm a public employee.  I want

 

           11              to hang onto mine as much as you want to

 

           12              hang onto yours, but you got to sit down and

 

           13              you have to make an effort and I think that

 

           14              would go a long way.

 

           15                      I think a lot of this is, oh, I

 

           16              don't want to say scare tactics because I

 

           17              think that could really happen, anybody can

 

           18              win in Court.  The mayor could win and the

 

           19              firemen can win, but you are tossing that

 

           20              coin up to the air and you don't know if the

 

           21              head or the tail is going to come down when

 

           22              you go to Court.  I would much rather see

 

           23              people get together and you get a little

 

           24              piece and I get a little piece and everybody

 

           25              is happy.  So, I would encourage Mr. Gervasi


 

 

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            1              and whoever to, you know, try to talk to

 

            2              somebody if you need any help anybody up

 

            3              here would be willing to support you, I'm

 

            4              sure, and the police officers.  The clerical

 

            5              already got their contract, but any one of

 

            6              us up here are supportive of the police and

 

            7              fire and we would be willing, I would be

 

            8              willing to setup something with the mayor

 

            9              with two of us, three of us can't meet, but

 

           10              two of us can meet and try to see if we

 

           11              can't settle this before bad things happen.

 

           12              I don't want them to happen and I don't

 

           13              think anyone else does either.

 

           14                      And my last thing is I would like to

 

           15              make a motion for Mr. Minora to prepare the

 

           16              subpoenas for Mr. McDowell to come before us

 

           17              and answer questions.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: I just wanted to add that

 

           21              regarding any information that Mr. McDowell

 

           22              might require to respond to council he

 

           23              should request that information himself from

 

           24              the Single Tax Office.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those


 

 

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            1              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            7              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            8                      MS. GATELLI: That's all I have,

 

            9              Mr. McGoff.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: I have nothing at this

 

           11              time.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Neil, I guess I'll

 

           13              have to get a couple of these things to you.

 

           14              I got a call about a catch basin at the

 

           15              corner or Prescott and Mulberry, if they

 

           16              could take a look at that one.  This article

 

           17              in the paper of Mr. Oleski has caused my

 

           18              phone to ring a great deal and one specific,

 

           19              I tried to call him yesterday I know he was

 

           20              on vacation, but I called his office and

 

           21              left a message and he didn't call me back

 

           22              yet, so, Neil, maybe we could send this

 

           23              down, there is a lot at the corner of

 

           24              Hampton Street and Sixth Avenue, I believe

 

           25              it's 602-604 Hampton, since I have been on


 

 

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            1              council the people in that neighborhood have

 

            2              been trying to get the city to clean that

 

            3              one up and, boy, when they saw this thing in

 

            4              the paper they called me and I believe it

 

            5              was one of the last ones that Mary Alice

 

            6              Burke had torn down so I know it's a city,

 

            7              the city -- anyway, the city tore it down, I

 

            8              don't know if they are possession of the

 

            9              property.

 

           10                      Realistically, I think everybody

 

           11              knows there is possibly enough votes for

 

           12              $90,000 to go through, maybe not, and I

 

           13              think most know that I'm not in favor of the

 

           14              $90,000, but if I was one of the people that

 

           15              were in favor of giving the $90,000 I think

 

           16              I would be a little bit upset because I

 

           17              don't believe that any anyone on council

 

           18              knew about this $10,000 until maybe the day

 

           19              before we got it.  I didn't know until the

 

           20              day of the meeting, so if I am one of the

 

           21              guys helping out the mayor to give this

 

           22              $90,000 I would have thought that he would

 

           23              have given me the courtesy to tell me, I'm

 

           24              backdooring another ten, but evidently he

 

           25              didn't, so I would be a little bit upset,


 

 

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            1              you know.

 

            2                      Mrs. Garvey sent a letter, I believe

 

            3              it was on my behalf, I'm not sure or council

 

            4              to Linda Aebli about the 10,000.  I don't

 

            5              know if it's not -- maybe it's legal, maybe

 

            6              he found a legal way to do it, but I don't

 

            7              think it's morally correct at all that he

 

            8              sent money to the neighborhood association

 

            9              and then they turned it over to ECTV,

 

           10              whether it's legal or not I don't know and

 

           11              hopefully Mr. Minora will find it for us,

 

           12              and a lot of times the public doesn't want

 

           13              to take Mr. Minora's answer, you know, they

 

           14              say he doesn't know what he is doing, which

 

           15              I'm not -- what I think I'm going to do is

 

           16              I'm thinking maybe I'll put together a

 

           17              letter and maybe I'll ask HUD if, in fact,

 

           18              whether the mayor is allowed to do this.  I

 

           19              just think it's wrong.

 

           20                      This TV station has gotten off on

 

           21              such a bad foot here, I mean, it's put a bad

 

           22              taste in a lot of people's mouths, people

 

           23              that originally weren't concerned one way or

 

           24              another and now are very upset and I think

 

           25              rightfully so.  I think one thing they have


 

 

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            1              got to change and change it immediately

 

            2              today is when they are broadcasting this

 

            3              meeting.  I mean, for whatever reason they

 

            4              can't broadcast us live, I hope that

 

            5              changes, there are lot of people upset about

 

            6              that, but 2:30 in the afternoon and then

 

            7              9:30 in the morning when the average person

 

            8              is working the dayshift can't watch it, once

 

            9              again, it makes you look like, and I say

 

           10              you, ECTV, it makes you look like you are

 

           11              trying to hide government from the people.

 

           12                   Whether you are or not isn't the

 

           13              question, it makes it looks like you are, so

 

           14              I would suggest to you whoever is there,

 

           15              whether it's Mr. Darcy I believe who I have

 

           16              never met I don't think, change it today,

 

           17              right now, so that the people have access to

 

           18              what's going on in here.  You are making

 

           19              yourself look terrible, terrible and all you

 

           20              have to do is just rectify that and I think

 

           21              you would give yourself a big boost up

 

           22              there, and I'll get off that subject.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Bill, why don't you

 

           24              make a motion that we send a letter for them

 

           25              to at least air it every shift.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  All right.  I'll

 

            2              make a motion that we send a letter to ECTV

 

            3              asking them to air city council meetings not

 

            4              only live, but one of all of the three

 

            5              working shifts it would be 7 to 3:30, three

 

            6              working shifts hours would be my motion.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll second that.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            9              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           15              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.  One

 

           17              other one, Neil, on Bromley Avenue, I don't

 

           18              have the exact address but it's in the 100

 

           19              block of South Bromley Avenue, oh, I think

 

           20              it was during the last election that's how

 

           21              long it's been they tore down a building on

 

           22              that, a very large building called the

 

           23              Yeager building and the residents have been

 

           24              maintaining it up until now and they are

 

           25              sick of it.  You know, they keep going over


 

 

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            1              there and cutting the grass, if that's one

 

            2              that Mr. Oleski could put on his list, it's

 

            3              a rather large lot, and I did check into I

 

            4              don't have an official letter or anything,

 

            5              but I did check into my understanding is the

 

            6              gas company is going to be tearing up the

 

            7              road for the full length of Washburn Street,

 

            8              so once they complete their work the road

 

            9              will be paved and that road really needs to

 

           10              be paved.  I'm going to ask the gas company

 

           11              if they can tear up Meridan Avenue, that

 

           12              needs to be paved.  It seems that's the only

 

           13              way we are getting streets paved.

 

           14                      I won't comment on the fire

 

           15              department because as Mr. Gervasi said what

 

           16              went down yesterday was basically for the

 

           17              police department so I'll comment on that

 

           18              and I'll reserve my comments on the fire

 

           19              department if and when something happens

 

           20              there.

 

           21                      I would like the people to take a

 

           22              look and say, for instance, you are a city

 

           23              police officer that came on the job in 2005,

 

           24              all right, you haven't had a raise since

 

           25              2005 and whatever longevity pay you are


 

 

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            1              getting was now taken away from you so now

 

            2              you are losing money, okay, how attractive

 

            3              is that going to be to people who want to be

 

            4              a police officer in this area?  I know there

 

            5              is articles in the paper saying we have a

 

            6              ton of people that applied and more so than

 

            7              ever, I think not.  I think I know as much

 

            8              about that as anybody in this city, and I

 

            9              talked to the people that are going to

 

           10              become police officers, some of them that

 

           11              are on the jobs right now whose names I

 

           12              obviously I won't mention, I don't want to

 

           13              jeopardize their job, they told me they were

 

           14              coming here short-term, you know, just until

 

           15              they get something better.

 

           16                      I think we need to take a look

 

           17              around and look at the municipalities around

 

           18              us that are similar size and makeup as ours

 

           19              and pay our people accordingly, both police

 

           20              and fire so that we can get quality people

 

           21              and people that want to stay here.  When you

 

           22              have a lot of people leave that have left

 

           23              here in the recent past in the police

 

           24              department anyway, they have knowledge that

 

           25              you just can't learn through school and that


 

 

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            1              you learn from working each and everyday, so

 

            2              I would really like to see that happen that

 

            3              we start to pay them at the very least what

 

            4              other municipalities around us are paying so

 

            5              we don't lose them.

 

            6                      One concern, and it's a major

 

            7              concern of mine, is there was a -- there is

 

            8              language in there about manning, and I

 

            9              understand that they are going to try to use

 

           10              supervisors for manning and possibly I'm

 

           11              hearing anyway that maybe even the

 

           12              detectives would be pulled to answer a call

 

           13              if all of the people were called up, but I

 

           14              will be watching closely as I know other

 

           15              people told me how many times does the

 

           16              ComCenter come over the air and say,

 

           17              "Command car, we have no cars available,"

 

           18              and that's in the daytime, all right, and

 

           19              that's what we have now.

 

           20                      So, I will wait and see what happens

 

           21              because I don't think anybody knows for sure

 

           22              how they are going to do it, but if it

 

           23              appears that we are running very short of

 

           24              people on the road then I will ask Dave

 

           25              Elliott to give me a list each and every


 

 

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            1              week of how many men man each shift and I

 

            2              want a realistic list, not a list that we

 

            3              have "X" amount of officers but three of

 

            4              them are sitting in an office somewhere, I

 

            5              want to talk about people that are on the

 

            6              street doing the job.  I don't think there

 

            7              is I anybody up here that obviously, you

 

            8              know, we are not always on the same side,

 

            9              but everybody always seems to agree we need

 

           10              people on the street, and if this Recovery

 

           11              Plan or whatever you want to call this is

 

           12              going to take people off the street, and I

 

           13              mean really take people off the street, I'm

 

           14              not talking about we always seem to get into

 

           15              the numbers here, "Well, we got this many

 

           16              officers, and we got this many officers,"

 

           17              let's tell the truth and say who is out

 

           18              there doing the job, who is out there

 

           19              answering the calls, not somebody that's

 

           20              sitting in an office, not somebody that

 

           21              possibly can answer the call, who is

 

           22              answering the calls and it really, really

 

           23              concerns me, so I will keep my mouth shut

 

           24              until I see what happens and if I see it

 

           25              going the wrong way then I will become very


 

 

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            1              boisterous.

 

            2                      And one last thing, this will be the

 

            3              last time I do this, it's been almost I

 

            4              believe three years I have been asking about

 

            5              the project on Main Avenue from Jackson

 

            6              Street to Luzerne Street, the mayor refuses,

 

            7              he doesn't want to answer my letters he told

 

            8              somebody, I don't want to get that person in

 

            9              trouble, the last time I saw him he said,

 

           10              "If he wants to talk to me let him call me,"

 

           11              so I called him and he didn't answer the

 

           12              phone and the last time I talked to him I

 

           13              think it was maybe about a year ago he said

 

           14              that we are going to use state money, there

 

           15              might be money in the state budget coming.

 

           16              He didn't want to go the route that we had

 

           17              been going with Mr. Kanjorski, so I will

 

           18              call him and ask him, "Are you going to do

 

           19              this project on Main Avenue in West

 

           20              Scranton, yes or no," and that will be the

 

           21              last time and hopefully he will give me a

 

           22              yes or no answer.  I'm really getting

 

           23              irritated and that's all I have.  Thank you.

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI: Excuse me just for one

 

           25              second, but I told you once before and it


 

 

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            1              might help you to call Dr. Barry Minora.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I've dealt with

 

            3              Dr. Minora at the very beginning.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: He got some grants I

 

            5              think and other kinds of grants.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That was the very

 

            7              first thing I did, Mr. McTiernan was on the

 

            8              council at the time and we met,

 

            9              Mr. McTiernan and myself and Chris Doherty

 

           10              and we met and I told him Dr. Barry Minora

 

           11              was very willing to help us to show us where

 

           12              the money and everything and this and that

 

           13              and he didn't seem to open to that, the

 

           14              mayor so we went the route of Congressman

 

           15              Kanjorski, Congressman Kanjorski came up, we

 

           16              walked Main Avenue, he said -- he even

 

           17              wanted to do more than what I was asking, he

 

           18              wanted to do underground utilities and then

 

           19              the last conversation I had with the mayor

 

           20              was that money was going to becoming through

 

           21              the state somehow, I believe he mentioned

 

           22              possibly using Mr. Van who is no longer

 

           23              there I think he might have been working as

 

           24              a consultant or something, but nothing

 

           25              since, and I'm the guy that's getting hit


 

 

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            1              with the questions every week when I walk

 

            2              down the avenue, you know, what is going on

 

            3              here.

 

            4                      So I will make the call.  If that's

 

            5              what it takes if he wants a call I'll make

 

            6              the call, I just thought it was easier if

 

            7              you sent a letter, he could send it back, I

 

            8              believe he says he throws my letters in the

 

            9              garbage somebody told me, so I won't waste

 

           10              the paper anymore.  That's all I have.

 

           11              Thank you.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Attorney

 

           13              Williams, you are back to work.

 

           14                      MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: 5-B.

 

           16                      MR. WILLIAMS: 5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION

 

           17              - AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           18              OTHER APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE AND

 

           19              ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF

 

           20              SCRANTON AND LACKAWANNA HERITAGE VALLEY

 

           21              AUTHORITY FOR A PRIVILEGE AND EASEMENT FOR

 

           22              THE CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN OF THE

 

           23              LACKAWANNA RIVER HERITAGE TRAIL TO BE

 

           24              LOCATED ON THE TRAIL AREA.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


 

 

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            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

            2              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           12              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           13                      MR. WILLIAMS: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION

 

           14              - AN ORDINANCE - CREATING AN OVERSIGHT

 

           15              COMMITTEE TO ACT IN AN ADVISORY CAPACITY

 

           16              ONLY TO OVERSEE THE MANAGEMENT OF PUBLIC

 

           17              ACCESS CHANNELS 61 AND 62 BY ELECTRIC CITY

 

           18              TELEVISION ("ECTV") THROUGH THE COMCAST

 

           19              CABLE SYSTEM.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           21              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be

 

           22              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


 

 

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            1              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            7              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            8                      MR. WILLIAMS: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION

 

            9              - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL

 

           10              NO. 140, 2007, AN ORDINANCE "ENTITLED

 

           11              GENERAL CITY OPERATING BUDGET 2008" BY

 

           12              TRANSFERRING $50,000.00 FROM ACCOUNT NO.

 

           13              01.080.00081.4010 (STANDARD

 

           14              SALARY-DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS-BUREAU OF

 

           15              ENGINEERING) TO ACCOUNT NO.

 

           16              01.080.00081.4201 (PROFESSIONAL

 

           17              SERVICES-DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS - BUREAU

 

           18              OF ENGINEERING) TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO COVER

 

           19              CITY ENGINEERING PROFESSIONAL SERVICES

 

           20              PAYMENTS TO PENNONI ASSOCIATES.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be

 

           23              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  On the question, we

 

            3              need a city engineer, so I'll be voting,

 

            4              yes, but I want to make it known that we are

 

            5              spending another $50,000 additional than

 

            6              when we had to do in the past, all right,

 

            7              so, I'll be voting, yes, because we need a

 

            8              city engineer, but I'm not happy about it.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           10              those in favor of introduction signify by

 

           11              saying aye.

 

           12                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           17              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           18                      MR. WILLIAMS 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           19              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           20              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO GRANT A

 

           21              SPECIAL ENCROACHMENT PERMIT TO FARLEY'S

 

           22              EATERY AND PUB, TO OPERATE AND OUTDOOR

 

           23              RESTAURANT AT 300-302 ADAMS AVENUE,

 

           24              SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll


 

 

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            1              entertain a motion that 5-E be introduced

 

            2              into it's proper committee.

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           12              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           13                      MR. WILLIAMS: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION

 

           14              - A RESOLUTION - APPOINTMENT TOF RYAN

 

           15              MCGOWAN, 735 NORTH BROMLEY AVENUE, SCRANTON,

 

           16              PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, TO THE POSITION OF CITY

 

           17              TREASURER EFFECTIVE JUNE 30, 2008.  MR.

 

           18              MCGOWAN WILL BE REPLACING DOUG HEIN WHO

 

           19              RESIGNED.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           21              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be

 

           22              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


 

 

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            1              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            7              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            8                      MR. WILLIAMS:  SIX.  Consideration

 

            9              OF ORDINANCES - READING BY TITLE.  6-A.

 

           10              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 28,

 

           11              2008 - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF

 

           12              COUNCIL NO. 123 OF 2007, ENTITLED, "AN

 

           13              ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER

 

           14              APPROPRIATE OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF

 

           15              SCRANTON TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO

 

           16              IMPLEMENT THE CONSOLIDATED SUBMISSION FOR

 

           17              COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS,

 

           18              (AS AMENDED) TO BE FUNDED UN THE COMMUNITY

 

           19              DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM, HOME

 

           20              INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP (HOME) PROGRAM AND

 

           21              EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT (ESG) PROGRAM", BY

 

           22              TRANSFERRING $90,000.00 FROM PROJECT 02-234

 

           23              INVESTMENT IN GROW SCRANTON FUND TO PROJECT

 

           24              NO. 08-248 ELECTRIC CITY TELEVISION.

 

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            1              by Title of Item 6-A what is your pleasure?

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the

 

            3              Committee on Community Development, I

 

            4              recommend final passage of Item 6-A.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI: Second.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: No, we didn't move it

 

            7              yet.

 

            8                      MS. GATELLI: What do you mean we

 

            9              didn't move it?

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll move it.

 

           11              Mr. Chairperson, first I move that 6-A pass

 

           12              Reading by Title.

 

           13                      MS. GATELLI: Second.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           15              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?

 

           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No.

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so

 

           22              moved.

 

           23                      MR. WILLIAMS: 6-B. READING YT TITLE

 

           24              - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 30, 2008 - AN

 

           25              ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING AN EASEMENT ON


 

 

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            1              CITY-OWNED LAND TO THE SCRANTON SCHOOL

 

            2              DISTRICT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW

 

            3              WEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading

 

            5              my Title of Item 6-B what is your pleasure?

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-B

 

            7              pass Reading by Title.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: At last week's meeting I

 

           11              had requested that if any residents had

 

           12              concerns regarding this legislation if they

 

           13              would be please contact the office of city

 

           14              council prior to today.  I know that I

 

           15              received no e-mails or phone calls regarding

 

           16              this piece of legislation and so I'll be

 

           17              approving it.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: And I know I had a

 

           19              question about some of the wording and I did

 

           20              not hear from anyone and my fault I did not

 

           21              contact anyone at the school district to ask

 

           22              for clarification, but since are no

 

           23              complaints by residents I assume it --

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI:  I think that we talked

 

           25              about this before and that some of the


 

 

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            1              residents did meet with the school district

 

            2              and it was rectified.  That was my

 

            3              understanding.

 

            4                      MS. EVANS: Yes, that's true, but

 

            5              this legislation involves an easement onto

 

            6              the land that they had previously discussed,

 

            7              and in the original ordinance I believe the

 

            8              easement was to be used only for access and

 

            9              egress --

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: For emergency vehicles.

 

           11                      MS. EVANS: -- for emergency vehicles

 

           12              to the proposed new school.  Now, however,

 

           13              they are asking for a broadening of the use

 

           14              of that easement I think in order to bring

 

           15              through equipment and such that are required

 

           16              in the construction.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else, 6-B. All

 

           18              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           19                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           24              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           25                      MR. WILLIAMS: Seven.  FINAL READING


 

 

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            1              OF RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES -

 

            2              CONSIDERATION FOR ADOPTION.  7-A. FOR

 

            3              CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY

 

            4              DEVELOPMENT - FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO.

 

            5              35, 2008 - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER

 

            6              APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS FOR THE CITY OF

 

            7              SCRANTON TO ENTER INTO A LOAN AGREEMENT AND

 

            8              MAKE A LOAN FROM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

 

            9              BLOCK GRANT LOAN PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 08-248

 

           10              IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $90,000.00 TO

 

           11              ELECTRIC CITY TELEVISION TO ASSIST AN

 

           12              ELIGIBLE PROJECT.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the

 

           14              recommendation of the Chairperson for the

 

           15              Committee on Community Development?

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the

 

           17              Committee on Community Development, I

 

           18              recommend final passage of Item 7-A.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI: Second.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  An item that I find

 

           22              bothersome is that obviously the mayor will

 

           23              give ECTV $90,000 directly, that means

 

           24              specifically by means of legislation placed

 

           25              before city council for it's approval or


 

 

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            1              denial, yet, the mayor takes $10,000

 

            2              indirectly and passes it to one nonprofit to

 

            3              give to another, gives it to one nonprofit

 

            4              to give to ECTV and this just doesn't seem

 

            5              appropriate, ethical.  If you can't present

 

            6              7-A directly I see no reason why the $10,000

 

            7              couldn't have been given directly to ECTV.

 

            8              Why funnel it through another nonprofit?

 

            9                   Now, I don't think it's good enough to

 

           10              say, well, this very may well have occurred

 

           11              in the past and so we are going to accept it

 

           12              today.  No, it's not acceptable.  If it were

 

           13              done in the past it wasn't right and that

 

           14              doesn't excuse today's improprieties.

 

           15                      In addition to that, you may say,

 

           16              well, it's a minimal amount of money, well,

 

           17              you could take $577,000 and create maybe 50

 

           18              minimal projects all of which could be

 

           19              administered behind closed doors without the

 

           20              knowledge of the public without the approval

 

           21              of city council.

 

           22                      Now, my last word on this is going

 

           23              to be this isn't Monopoly money just because

 

           24              it's not coming out of the city's operating

 

           25              budget doesn't mean this is, you know,


 

 

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            1              nonexistent funding.  It's not going to hit

 

            2              you in the pocket.  Well, yes, it is because

 

            3              these are tax dollars, but most particularly

 

            4              these are federal tax dollars and I don't

 

            5              know that the federal government is going to

 

            6              approve the manner in which the City of

 

            7              Scranton through it's Office of Economic and

 

            8              Community Development much shuffles federal

 

            9              tax dollars, so I will not in good

 

           10              conscience approve what I believe is

 

           11              entangled in very, very inappropriate

 

           12              mismanagement of public funds.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Roll call,

 

           14              please.

 

           15                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS:  No.

 

           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           18                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No.

 

           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare

 

           25              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


 

 

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            1                      MR. WILLIAMS: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION

 

            2              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -

 

            3              RESOLUTION NO. 41, 2008 - REAPPOINTING DAVID

 

            4              CARDEN, 248 WILBUR ST., SCRANTON,

 

            5              PENNSYLVANIA, 18508, AS A MEMBER OF THE

 

            6              BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS FOR THE CITY OF

 

            7              SCRANTON.  MR. CARDEN'S TERM EXPIRES ON JULY

 

            8              1, 2008 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON JULY

 

            9              1, 2011.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: As Chairperson for the

 

           11              Committee on Rules, I recommend final

 

           12              passage of Item 7-B.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           15              call.

 

           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.

 

           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           21                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


 

 

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            1              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted, and I

 

            2              would like to thank Mr. Williams for his

 

            3              fine work and ask for a motion to adjourn.

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: And a job well done.

 

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            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and

 

            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

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