1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday, July 1, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania





















                            CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER






















                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and


            2              moment of reflection observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Roll call, please.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with


           14              the reading of the minutes.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A.




           17              MEETING HELD ON MAY 28, 2008.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           19              If not, received and filed.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. MINUTES OF THE




           22              HELD ON MY 28,2008.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           24              If not, received and filed.


           25                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. AGENDA FOR THE








            2              HELD ON JUNE 25, 2008.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            4              If not, received and filed.


            5                      MS. GARVEY: 3-D. MINUTES OF THE




            7              APRIL 23, 2008.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


            9              If not, received and filed.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: 3-E. MINUTES OF THE




           12              MAY 28, 2008.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           14              If not, received and filed.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           16              Order.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Any announcements that


           18              council members may have?  Mrs. Gatelli?


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  On Thursday, July 3


           20              the Philharmonic will be playing at the


           21              Lackawanna County Stadium at 7:30 followed


           22              by a fireworks display.  It's a really


           23              wonderful event if you have never been there


           24              and it's free to the public and on the


           25              Fourth of July at Nay Aug Park at 10:30 they






            1              are going to be having the flag ceremony and


            2              that's also a wonderful event to celebrate


            3              Americanism and all our soldiers that have


            4              fought for us.


            5                      The other thing I have is there will


            6              be an arts festival Saturday and Sunday,


            7              July 5 and 6, called the Scrantonhanton


            8              festival. It will be in the 300 block of


            9              Spruce Street starting at 2:00 p.m. on


           10              Saturday and 2:00 p.m. on Sunday.  There


           11              will be music, food, arts displays, live


           12              poetry and there will be live theatre in the


           13              second floor of the Hotel Jermyn which is


           14              better known as the Northeast Theatre.  And


           15              I think that's all I have.  Thank you.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Mrs.


           17              Evans?


           18                      MS. EVANS: There is a gentleman by


           19              the name of Allen Rubinstein who is


           20              donating.  I don't know if it's a 1999 or


           21              2000 Ford Windstar van to any nonprofit in


           22              the Scranton area who is in need of


           23              transportation.  The van I believe only


           24              needs a new transmission and if anyone is


           25              interested in receiving that Windstar van as






            1              a donation for your nonprofit please contact


            2              the Office of City Council.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Anything else?  Citizens


            4              participation.  Fay Franus.


            5                      MS. FRANUS:  Fay Franus.  Mrs.


            6              Gatelli, as head of finance when can you


            7              expect to see legislation come before city


            8              council on the $11 million borrowing that


            9              the mayor wants?


           10                      MS. GATELLI: I don't believe there


           11              will be any legislation.


           12                      MS. FRANUS:  Pardon me?


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  I don't believe you


           14              will be seeing any legislation for that.


           15                      MS. FRANUS:  May I ask how will they


           16              get this money then?  It's in the budget,


           17              how will they pay the bills without the


           18              borrowing?  Will they be raising taxes?


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  I don't believe there


           20              is 11 million in the budget.  I don't


           21              believe that was the budgeted amount.


           22                      MS. FRANUS:  Well, whatever the


           23              amount is.


           24                      MS. GATELLI: Pardon?


           25                      MS. FRANUS:  Whatever the amount,






            1              whether it be 5 or 6, whatever, where would


            2              this money come from.


            3                      MS. GATELLI: Well, we are hoping


            4              then will be getting some from the tax


            5              office?


            6                      MS. FRANUS:  Pardon me?


            7                      MS. GATELLI:  From the tax office


            8              when that -- -


            9                      MS. FRANUS:  The tax office, that's


           10              not coming through until 2009 Attorney


           11              McGovern says, so you cannot count on that


           12              money from the tax office, absolutely not,


           13              so where would it come from, possibly


           14              raising taxes?  It will not be coming from


           15              the tax office.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  If that's the way the


           17              mayor proceeds it will be raising his taxes.


           18                      MS. FRANUS: So we are getting a tax


           19              raise?


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  I don't know.


           21                      MS. FRANUS:  That's the only other


           22              possibility since you said you are not going


           23              to borrow and Mrs. Fanucci said she is going


           24              to try an implement other plans, there is no


           25              way it's coming from that $5 million, there






            1              is no way, and you are head of finance, so


            2              you should be looking into this.  I never


            3              hear you speak about anything on finance


            4              ever, so I wish you would start looking into


            5              matters like this.


            6                      Now, as far as this ECTV thing, I


            7              understand that Mark, the executive


            8              director, was on the Steve Corbett show and


            9              he mentioned that the East Scranton Business


           10              Association gave them $10,000.  I would hope


           11              that somebody up here on council will look


           12              into it and find out if this is a nonprofit,


           13              if it isn't nonprofit, where did this money


           14              come from North Scranton -- or north -- East


           15              Scranton Business Association?  The downtown


           16              Business Association doesn't even have that


           17              kind of money, so I wish somebody up there


           18              would take it up themselves, Mrs. Gatelli,


           19              you are finance to find out more about this


           20              $10,000.


           21                      Also, we got to follow this money


           22              and this $90,000 I don't know if you are


           23              going to give it to them or you're not going


           24              to give it to them, but if you don't give it


           25              to them I think it's just a -- I don't know,






            1              it's just a political ploy to get elected by


            2              saying you are getting that ECTV would go


            3              dark and you would like that as well, so


            4              there is a little plan here, we won't know


            5              until it's happens, but you can bet it's


            6              going to be political.


            7                      Now, on the other hand, this John


            8              Darcy that works there, he is a contractor,


            9              he works for himself according to Mark on


           10              the radio show, so if this Mr. Darcy is up


           11              there doing work and then you give him this


           12              money, this $90,000, who is to say where


           13              this money is going?  He could write himself


           14              a check and say, "Well, I did this, I did


           15              this, I did this, I got to write this


           16              check," and he owns own all this money in


           17              liens, he could be paying his bills off.  I


           18              think this $90,000 there should be a trial,


           19              there should be absolute accountability for


           20              every penny that goes out of this city to


           21              pay those people.  Every penny spent should


           22              have somebody, and not people appointed by


           23              the mayor, because you can see where that's


           24              going to go, somebody should be watching


           25              that money, I don't know who, but it better






            1              be in place if this money is accounted for.


            2                   Now, in all other city's across the


            3              country these peg stations, their are


            4              government programs are viewed anywhere from


            5              5 to 10 times a week, not twice as this is.


            6              This is going to be once live and then once


            7              12 hours later at 6:30 in the morning when


            8              the meetings are going to go back to 6:30 at


            9              night.  Who is going to see these?  And as


           10              far as computers, nobody, rarely anybody in


           11              the city has computers, maybe the young


           12              kids, but senior citizens and the old


           13              people, Mr. McGoff you are making faces, I


           14              would take a survey and many, many, many


           15              more than not do not have computers nor do


           16              they want to watch a council meeting on a


           17              computer, they want to see it live, and when


           18              they get home from work at 6:30 most people


           19              are making their meals, they don't want to


           20              be watching, trying to catch one meeting a


           21              week.  I think you could do something about


           22              that by doing something with an agreement


           23              with these people to make it more than twice


           24              a week.  This is outrageous and this is a


           25              deliberate plan by the mayor to keep what he






            1              is doing away from the people.  This is why


            2              we are doing this in the first place, you


            3              handpicked these people and naturally he is


            4              saying, well, he picked them.  He picked the


            5              people that picked it, so it's common sense


            6              that Mayor Doherty is running this whole


            7              show and three folks, Gatelli, McGoff and


            8              Fanucci are giving him everything he wants


            9              like you always do and you always will, but


           10              I want this $90,000 and any other money


           11              going out to this station followed, penny by


           12              penny and an accounting.


           13                      I would like to get on the board of


           14              directors of ECTV, I'm making this known


           15              right now, volunteer, they are saying we


           16              should volunteer the people to keep an eye,


           17              I would like to be a member of the board of


           18              directors of ECTV before they pick one, so


           19              how could anybody say knowing now it's in


           20              the early stages I'm putting right on notice


           21              now.  I have all of the time in the world


           22              and I'm retired and I would like that, so if


           23              someone could please get back to me on ECTV.


           24              Thank you.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Ozzie Quinn.






            1                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'


            2              Association.  First thing I would like to


            3              say, as last year the Taxpayers' Association


            4              will continue their kids swim for free the


            5              first two days will be July -- Saturday,


            6              July 12 and Sunday, July 13, from noon to


            7              6:00 p.m. Any youth 15 and under may come up


            8              Nay Aug Park and swim and use that slide


            9              free and it doesn't just mean Scranton, it


           10              means all of the boroughs throughout the


           11              county or whoever else wants to come up


           12              there, we will pay for that, and we want to


           13              appreciate and thank the businesses for


           14              their involvement in this and individuals.


           15                   I do want to talk about the fact that


           16              we are in July and we still haven't seen the


           17              audit for 2007 and am I'm very much


           18              concerned because of the fact that although


           19              government officials or CPA's can say we can


           20              only look at the principle loan or as I


           21              spoke about previously, last audit we were


           22              $180 million in debt and now we see that


           23              this county is $27 million and the school


           24              board is $185 million, so we are very much


           25              concerned with the coming of the taxes for






            1              next year, the increase in the taxes which


            2              we know we are going to get, probably from


            3              the school district, and the fact is that we


            4              are concerned because of the heating system


            5              and this $90,000 that you are spending out,


            6              you are sending out to ECTV which should be


            7              going for low to moderate income, they


            8              should be building up some kind of a surplus


            9              to help these low to moderate income that


           10              have heating problems during the season.


           11                   Now, giving that money to ECTV is like


           12              tantamount to what's happening across the


           13              country with predatory lenders.  These


           14              lenders give money to homeowners, they


           15              shouldn't give because their background,


           16              their history, their credit rating is not


           17              good.  They gave the money to them even


           18              though their credit rating they had a bunch


           19              of liens, whatever and what happened they


           20              are being foreclosed upon now.  Now, that's


           21              taxpayers' money and I don't think that we


           22              should be giving that money to people who


           23              are not worthy financially have a history of


           24              doing good in business and have a good


           25              credit rating, okay?






            1                      Also, I'm awaiting from HUD in


            2              regards to that citizen participation end of


            3              it, I still feel there needs to be citizen


            4              participation.


            5                      Now, we are very much concerned


            6              about the fact that what's going to happen


            7              with this ECTV because of the fact that as


            8              Commissioner Munchak cited last week that


            9              the county wasn't in the proposal and the


           10              taxpayers' association is not in a proposal,


           11              and I feel as Mr. Munchak supported us that


           12              we should be in part of the ECTV because it


           13              is public access TV, and I would like to


           14              council to support us, you know, I know you


           15              don't like to hear a lot of things


           16              especially the mayor of what we say, but we


           17              are trying to make people aware in which we


           18              are going to continue to demonstrate


           19              throughout the year, be it not city hall,


           20              but maybe throughout the whole city in


           21              regards to making people aware of the


           22              financial situation in the City of Scranton


           23              and how this mayor is continually putting us


           24              deeper and deeper in debt and we cannot


           25              continue to do it, we can't continue it with






            1              the population dwindling.  You saw the


            2              employment rate, you know the economy, you


            3              know what's happening in paying your


            4              gasoline, your food, what's going to happen


            5              after the meeting, we just cannot continue.


            6              There has got to be a priority set and if


            7              this mayor has not set priorities in 2009


            8              and if you people approve it as you have in


            9              the past three to two then a lot of people


           10              are going to suffer, so start thinking about


           11              the people who have elected you and about


           12              the people who are making eight dollars a


           13              year -- eight dollars an hour job.  Please,


           14              okay, we ask you, that's why the Taxpayers'


           15              Association is involved.  I don't have no


           16              hidden agenda.  A lot of people say, well,


           17              you were fired, you did this here, no, not


           18              really, and I would debate anybody on


           19              anything that I have done and what I have


           20              done and why being involved and what I do,


           21              you know.


           22                      I just feel sorry that ECTV has come


           23              on board and now they are advertising as


           24              they started last night, I don't know if


           25              they're contracting out using that $10,000






            1              of OECD money to contract out what they did


            2              last night, trying to get businesses, market


            3              businesses to pay for their shows.  It's


            4              interesting, it's very interesting, but


            5              again, don't let a predatory -- don't be


            6              predatory lenders, okay?  Thank you very


            7              much.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.


            9              Jean Suetta.


           10                      MS. SUETTA: Why do you laugh every


           11              time I get up here, Billy?


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Because I'm afraid


           13              of what you are going to say.


           14                      MS. SUETTA:  Jean Suetta, Scranton,


           15              Pennsylvania, I want to thank you very much


           16              for the sign.  We got them in the 1500 block


           17              of Gardner Avenue, they forgot the 1400, all


           18              well and good the traffic is slowing up.  We


           19              need some on Marian Street, they didn't do


           20              any there and there is only two blocks of


           21              Marian.  Neil, I'm not going to abuse you


           22              today because last time I went over there he


           23              took my time off me.  Yeah, I had two


           24              minutes to go and you called Jimmy Stucker


           25              up.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Could you just give


            2              the addresses?


            3                      MS. SUETTA: No.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: To get the signs.


            5                      MS. SUETTA: The 100 and 200 block of


            6              Marian and 14 of Gardner, and with the TV


            7              station you got all of these extra money


            8              throw some my way, you know, I'll put the TV


            9              on for you.  And, Judy, you said we weren't


           10              going to be in the dark this week, well, we


           11              are not being televised --


           12                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, we are.


           13                      MS. SUETTA: But it's going to be an


           14              hour late.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: I believe it's going to


           16              be on time, I think Comcast was trying to


           17              get it so it could be live.


           18                      MS. SUETTA: Sherry, what about those


           19              bids?  The bids?


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Nothing has taken place


           21              there, but I still have not heard anything


           22              about it, so I will keep you posted if they


           23              are or not.


           24                      MS. SUETTA: Thanks very much.  Have


           25              a good day.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mrs. Suetta.


            2                      MS. SUETTA: You owe me three minutes


            3              plus two so that's an extra five.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Barbara O'Malley.


            5                      MS. O'MALLEY:  Yesterday the feed


            6              for Scranton Today was pulled and ECTV began


            7              broadcasting on Channel 61.  The takeover


            8              has been accomplished and, as Mr. Doherty


            9              said, only the funding is still in question.


           10              In a radio interview on June 26 Mark


           11              Migliori, executive director of ECTV, was


           12              questioned about the organizations financial


           13              status.  He stated that the money -- they


           14              had money in the bank because the East


           15              Scranton Business Association gifted them


           16              $10,000.  He stated he didn't know what the


           17              East Scranton Business Association's


           18              function was or who was in charge.  He was


           19              very vague on the details which seemed odd


           20              considering the size of the gift.


           21                      It is disconcerting to think that


           22              the executive director does not have a


           23              working knowledge of the organizations


           24              finances.  Will he be responsible for the


           25              record keeping and reporting required for






            1              the proposed $90,000 OECD loan?  If the


            2              executive director doesn't know the details


            3              of a $10,000 gift what will happen with the


            4              proposed $90,000 loan?  Who is managing the


            5              finances for this organization?  Is it John


            6              Darcy, ECTV cofounder, board president with


            7              a documented history of unpaid bills, failed


            8              businesses liens?


            9                      The disclosure of the $10,000 gift


           10              from the East Scranton Business Association


           11              is certainly surprising.  The East Scranton


           12              Business Association is a nonprofit


           13              organization, a 501-C-6 whose member pay


           14              annual dues of $60.  Last fall the East


           15              Scranton Business Association was raising


           16              funds for the Richter Avenue Common Project


           17              which, by the way, is still not complete


           18              under Mr. Darcy and Mr. McDonough's


           19              tutelage, yet this spring the East Scranton


           20              Business Association is donating $10,000 to


           21              ECTV.  How did the East Scranton Business


           22              Association acquire $10,000 in such a short


           23              span of time to donate to ECTV?  Why didn't


           24              the organization use the money to complete


           25              the commons project?






            1                      The president of the board of the


            2              East Scranton Business Association revealed


            3              that the $10,000 came from Scranton's Office


            4              of Economic Development OECD.  The grant


            5              money, which many of you know is highly


            6              coveted by organizations and civic groups in


            7              the city, appears to have been awarded in


            8              rather short notice to the East Scranton


            9              Business Association and then gifted to


           10              ECTV.  Who approved this award?


           11              Mr. Migliori implied these funds are being


           12              used for startup costs apparently to


           13              purchase equipment and renovations at 933


           14              Prescott Avenue a property owned by


           15              Lackawanna Institute.  A call to OECD for


           16              information on this project has not been


           17              returned.


           18                      The $10,000 OECD awarded to East


           19              Scranton Business Association and the


           20              subsequent gift to ECTV may not be


           21              irregular, but it certainly gives the


           22              appearance of subterfuge.  Has the East


           23              Scranton Business Association made sizable


           24              gifts such as this to other businesses in


           25              Scranton.  John Darcy, ECTV's cofounder, the






            1              property owner and others associated with


            2              ECTV have ties to the East Scranton Business


            3              Association.  Did they use their influence


            4              to solicit the East Scranton Business


            5              Association to become a conduit for funding


            6              for ECTV?


            7                      The city's financial commitment to


            8              ECTV using scarce OECD funds appears to be


            9              two-pronged.  The OECD grant to the East


           10              Scranton Business Association and the


           11              $90,000 loan council is considering.


           12              Comments reported in the Times attributed to


           13              cofounders John Darcy and Chris Balton as


           14              well as Mayor Doherty regarding the startup


           15              cash for ECTV have been less than clear.


           16              This back door development only adds to the


           17              murkiness.


           18                      Two weeks ago Annette Palugis spoke


           19              from this podium of Mayor Doherty's


           20              displeasure with Scranton Today and the


           21              individuals associated with the station.


           22              Last week I spoke of the deck being stacked


           23              against Scranton Today.  In my opinion the


           24              circumstances surrounding the East Scranton


           25              Business Association gift certainly adds






            1              credence to that claim.  Are the taxpayers


            2              of this city paying the price for political


            3              shenanigans?  Take heed, my fellow


            4              Scrantonians, for in this self-proclaimed


            5              progressive city the old adage, you can't


            6              fight city hall, is alive and well and the


            7              cost immeasurable.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  I'm sorry, I


            9              can't read the next name, is it Tobin?


           10                      MR. TOBIN: My name is Edmond Tobin,


           11              I'm a resident of Scranton.  We have found


           12              $90,000 to give to a television station to


           13              broadcast your council meetings and


           14              different things which senior citizens like


           15              me rely on.  This is public television, but


           16              you had a station that I understand has


           17              worked for ten years with very little money,


           18              so I have a suggestion for you, take that


           19              $90,000, fix up your handicapped ramps, your


           20              sidewalks in Scranton, go up Mulberry Street


           21              here in a wheelchair and see what fun you


           22              have.  In wintertime try to get around to go


           23              downtown to by groceries.  If it snowstorms


           24              forget it, crosswalks you can't get across.


           25                   I have called the Public Works






            1              Department and complained, the answer I got


            2              was, "I've worked for the city for 35 years


            3              we never clean crosswalks."How are we


            4              supposed to go shopping?  Thanks to Janet


            5              she did once speak up for me, remember,


            6              Mrs. Evans, when I spoke to you?


            7                      MS. EVANS: I remember it well.


            8                      MR. TOBIN: And I thank very much,


            9              but it's getting to the point we can't get


           10              around in Scranton because your sidewalks


           11              are unfit, your crosswalks are unfit.  We


           12              had a lady from our apartment get killed


           13              right over here last December because of


           14              crosswalks, because cars don't want to stop


           15              for us.  I come down now, I had two cars cut


           16              me off at the intersections because I had to


           17              take my time to make sure I got around


           18              without going into one of your holes and


           19              sitting there hoping somebody comes to help


           20              me out.  I think it's a disgrace the way


           21              this mayor is letting this city fall apart.


           22              You people better talk to him and say, look,


           23              we've got enough of this complaints, let's


           24              do something.  You got a lot in the city


           25              here, believe me.  I lived in Honesdale.






            1              The parking money in Honesdale went to


            2              remove the snow away from the streets.  You


            3              get a snowstorm in Honesdale and at least


            4              two days after that snowstorm you have no


            5              trouble getting around on your streets


            6              because they remove the snow and take care


            7              of their citizens.


            8                      I wish I could go back there, but


            9              they don't have the transportation systems


           10              and such that you have here, that's why I'm


           11              here in order to get around.  It's about


           12              time you stop pocketing money for yourselves


           13              for the city and could something for the


           14              scene or citizens.  Thank you.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Marie Schumacher.


           16                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Good morning.  Marie


           17              Schumacher, city resident.  Mrs. Gatelli,


           18              last week I asked you as finance chair to


           19              let us know what you have done to help the


           20              mayor and his administration respond to the


           21              request made by the auditor back in February


           22              during motions.  However, you failed to


           23              respond, so I repeat my request that during


           24              motions today you tell us what you are doing


           25              to get those responses back to the auditor.






            1                   On the issue of renewing the charter of


            2              the Recreation Authority which I'm glad to


            3              not see on the agenda, when the authority


            4              was the overseer of the Municipal Golf


            5              Authority there was only one such asset.


            6              Now, that the sole role of the Rec Authority


            7              is Nay Aug Park I again ask for park parody.


            8              The Rec Authority should not be extended


            9              until it is expanded to cover all city parks


           10              capable of hosting recreational activities.


           11                   Now, as to the resolution and ordinance


           12              tabled last week to provide $90,000 of tax


           13              dollars to ECTV, first I want to thank you


           14              for tabling this giveaway of precious tax


           15              resources.  Next, I want to point out the


           16              fallacy used as the basis of gifting these


           17              funds to ECTV, the creation of three low to


           18              moderate income jobs.  As two jobs are being


           19              eliminated at Scranton Today, there is only


           20              one net job being created by ECTV and


           21              $90,000 is simply too much for this


           22              distressed city to pay for the creation of a


           23              single low to moderate income job.


           24                      Now, let's move onto the inflated


           25              proposal submitted.  During the past week






            1              ECTV has admitted that individuals included


            2              in their proposal for ECT operations were


            3              false.  Chris Balton's role apparently was


            4              fulfilled when the inflated proposal was


            5              submitted.  The ECTV inflated proposal also


            6              includes the purchase of over $50,000 of HD


            7              equipment.  Well, the likelihood is that by


            8              the time high definition reaches the public


            9              access channels any equipment bought now


           10              would be sorely outdated.  Cable companies


           11              are not required to offer HD bandwidth for


           12              peg channels and until and unless that ever


           13              happens that precious HD signal bandwidth


           14              will be used elsewhere.


           15                      We also are being requested to pay


           16              utilities for the ECTV studios.  Now, wasn't


           17              that clever of Mr. Mansour to give the


           18              church to ECTV for only $1 a year when, in


           19              fact, he is going to be getting his


           20              property, his nontax, nonproperty tax paying


           21              property heated so it won't deteriorate by


           22              the taxpayers, very clever.


           23                      Mr. Tom Welby, who seems to be the


           24              selection committee spokesman, has been on


           25              talk radio and has said SCTV was eliminated






            1              due to past performance.  Now, I ask you


            2              which is worse, SCTV's doing a great job


            3              with extremely limited resources or ECTV


            4              winning with a highly inflated proposal?


            5              Let your conscience be your guide should


            6              this ever come back to the agenda.  Thank


            7              you.


            8                      MR. LASKE:  Okay, now, I've heard


            9              enough, I'm depressed over what you are


           10              going to do with Scranton Tomorrow.  I was


           11              one of the people that spent two years


           12              working on the Home Rule Charter, I didn't


           13              run for a position on the board because I


           14              was meeting'd out, and I'll tell you what,


           15              if you don't get disgusted around this town


           16              I'm trading these glasses in, I'm going to


           17              buy a pair of rose-colored ones so I can


           18              envision the city the way Mr. Doherty does.


           19                   Okay, now, let me switch gears a little


           20              bit, you have been chewed on enough today.


           21              The cash cow in Scranton that's against


           22              nature.  I was born on a farm in


           23              Madisonville, Pennsylvania, I worked on


           24              farms.  Now, if I could buy cows and milk


           25              them the way the city does milk the cash cow






            1              she never goes dry.  You are defying nature


            2              you three people.  When a cow gets a certain


            3              age you have it artificially inseminated and


            4              it has a calf.  You can't put the milk in


            5              the pail for six weeks because it's special


            6              milk that nature provides for the mother to


            7              feed the calf.  Why the heck do you people


            8              think you are above nature?  The cash cow in


            9              this city never dries.  They just keep


           10              sucking on the tits.  It's ashame.


           11                      I'm 80 years old, I'm not brain dead


           12              yet and I have been watching the way you


           13              people look at this speakers.  You have no


           14              respect for us.  The only time you are aware


           15              that Dick Laske is alive is when the tax


           16              bill comes due and then when it goes in the


           17              tax office where does it go?  It's ashame.


           18              Judy, you know me and I know Janet Evans for


           19              over 30 years, I have never lied to anybody.


           20              I supported you when you ran for election,


           21              we'll see what happens next time around.


           22              Thank you and have a good day.  I hope you


           23              enjoy your vacation you have earned it.


           24              David Dobson.


           25                      MR. DOBSON: Good evening -- good






            1              morning.  I was about to say good evening,


            2              but it's way past my bedtime I guess.  I


            3              would just like to say one more thing on


            4              Channel 61.  This is perfect for people that


            5              don't want people to get along with each.


            6              It's ashame because I see people being hurt


            7              on both sides and it was so totally


            8              unnecessary.  I don't see why things


            9              couldn't have gone on for many years the way


           10              they were and everybody a year or two ago


           11              seemed pretty happy with the situation.


           12              Now, everybody seems pretty unhappy.


           13                      Now, I'd like to speak on something


           14              else.  On 5-B I would like to ask that


           15              council consider the advantage or


           16              possibility thereof of renovation as opposed


           17              to new construction of schools, especially


           18              aforementioned by council members of high


           19              school taxes compared to city maintenance


           20              taxes, please use your influence in this


           21              matter.


           22                      On 7-B, again, I would like to cite


           23              brownfield development as opposed to


           24              development in rural areas.  In the past I


           25              have tried to raise issues and encourage






            1              development of industrial parks within the


            2              city.  The advantage brownfields are already


            3              polluted -- we have plenty of polluted land


            4              that could be tested and polluted no


            5              further, but harbor an industry that could


            6              create jobs and tax revenues.  Farmlands and


            7              wetlands should be preserved.  If you ever


            8              gone out to the country or lived in the


            9              country, which I have, you would see a lot


           10              of development in places that were really


           11              questionable, for instance, up at Benton


           12              Township, East Benton Township, we developed


           13              a plant decimated a wetland from what I


           14              could see and everybody wound up laid off


           15              three months later.


           16                      I will cite Waverly Industrial Park


           17              for the pollution of ground water devaluing


           18              properties of area homeowners and requiring


           19              alternatives to wells for fresh water.  You


           20              can only imagine the massive infrastructure


           21              that would be required and investment to get


           22              them city water.  Mass transit will be an


           23              unlikely player with well ridership


           24              potential.  With this consideration


           25              employees of these businesses will no doubt






            1              be forced into an expensive and


            2              environmentally unfriendly travel practices.


            3                   Property taxes from these businesses go


            4              to small communities with little or no


            5              nonprofit liability.  I would cite hospitals


            6              and schools and so forth and churches as an


            7              example.  These institutions don't pay much


            8              taxes, they do great good for the community,


            9              but unfortunately, we get stuck paying for


           10              them all with none of the industrial


           11              development to help pay.


           12                      The downside, we need to refocus


           13              economic development funds on land


           14              acquisition and development of


           15              infrastructure and not some of the change


           16              away from some of the current developments,


           17              finish them off, get them done and let's


           18              refocus.  Thank you and have a good morning.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Sam Patilla.


           20                      MR. PATILLA: Mr. Courtright, Mrs.


           21              Evans.  I am going to go to very quickly


           22              what this gentleman stated about the curbs


           23              and whatnot.  August will be the second and


           24              third year that Phyllis and I relocated to


           25              Scranton, I thought it was three years, and






            1              in that time, as a matter of fact, yesterday


            2              morning I have had to replace three tires:


            3              One nail, one screw and knife and yesterday


            4              a three-inch bolt, okay, and that's one of


            5              the reasons why I get upset from tax -- I


            6              see taxpayer money given to an organization


            7              such as ECTV.  Like I said time and time


            8              again, they came to the table, nothing but


            9              open hands, you know, people come up here


           10              and they speak about giving our money away,


           11              it's factual.  They are paying their light


           12              bill, they're paying their phone bill, we're


           13              paying for them to go out and get vehicles,


           14              we are paying for them to out and get


           15              high-end equipment that they don't have a


           16              need for.  You know, if those people really


           17              wanted to provide a service of a public


           18              access television station they would seek to


           19              provide access to the public.  You know, we


           20              shouldn't have to pay anybody's tax loan,


           21              tax lien, excuse me.  We shouldn't have to


           22              pay back anybody's grant, loan, gift, nobody


           23              is giving away money nowadays, all right?


           24              So, they could say it's a grant, they can


           25              say it's a gift, they can say whatever they






            1              want to say, okay, I'm from the old school,


            2              that's the front money to be paid back out


            3              of that 90 grand, no and's, if's or but's


            4              about it.  If the average taxpayer came in


            5              and asked for money they would be shown the


            6              door, all right?  This man isn't the first


            7              person, and I've come in front of council


            8              before and heard that he had -- he or the


            9              business had tax liens again him then you


           10              guys give him our money.  You know,


           11              perception is 99 percent of the equation.


           12              Regardless if it's a legitimate and it's


           13              above board, perception is 98 percent of the


           14              equation and since day one the perception


           15              that I have of the majority of the City


           16              Administrators in this city isn't a good


           17              one.


           18                      You know, I have lived with crooked


           19              CEO's, I have worked under supervisors and


           20              managers that robbed the company and their


           21              employees blind, so I speak from experience.


           22              What this mayor is doing it's a scam, that's


           23              all it is a scam.  It's nothing I haven't


           24              seen before or nothing I haven't encountered


           25              before, you know, all you have to do is






            1              follow the money, but you make it kind of


            2              hard because there is no audits, but these


            3              agendas speak in volumes.  You know, I often


            4              speak about the raping of the emergency


            5              shelter program and the HOME program, that's


            6              what you are doing you are raping those


            7              programs, so when these poor people and


            8              these low to moderate income people need


            9              that money it's not their for them because


           10              they have given to people that aren't going


           11              to pay it back, that don't have to pay it


           12              back.  $90,000.  They don't have a building


           13              of their own that they have payed rent, they


           14              don't have equipment, they don't have


           15              vehicles, quite possibly the city paved the


           16              parking lot of that place.  Among other


           17              things, you know, if you went out to get a


           18              car and you walked into that dealership, put


           19              your pockets turned out, they are going to


           20              show you the door and the same thing should


           21              have happened to the families and the


           22              copresident of ECTV television when they


           23              walked in there and talked about giving our


           24              money.


           25                      Our roads need to be paved.  It's






            1              that time of year when some people are going


            2              to start getting flooded out.  We have


            3              fires.  Everyday, everyday I come here I


            4              hear a police or a fire siren going past


            5              this building, every single day.  That money


            6              could be used to help those people out


            7              there.  It could be helped to help out our


            8              seniors and our young children, our young


            9              adults, excuse me.  You know, that's what


           10              taxpayer money is for.


           11                      I said a long time ago, Scranton is


           12              more than just 500 block of Lackawanna


           13              Avenue and this little general area in here,


           14              it's a big city.  We pay our taxes, so the


           15              whole city gets taken care of, not the


           16              brother of the sister of a cousin of the


           17              father or the uncle or the niece, the whole


           18              city, black, white, purple, green, it don't


           19              make no difference to me.  I pay my taxes to


           20              help my fellow man, I don't pay my taxes to


           21              make somebody else rich.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.


           23              Mr. Jackowitz.


           24                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Good morning, council


           25              members, president, Bill Jackowitz, South






            1              Scranton resident and member of the


            2              Taxpayers' Association.  First of all, as of


            3              10:45 this morning Channel 61 is black in


            4              case anybody was wondering.


            5                      Also, I see Councilwoman Fanucci


            6              left again, she left last week when I came


            7              up to speak, she has left five times already


            8              when I've come up to speak, that's just


            9              information.  I provided council members


           10              with the official Pennsylvania Department of


           11              State certificate which shows that ECTV


           12              became a corporation on 17 March 2008.  As


           13              you can see, they have no mailing address.


           14              Does this mean ECTV represented himself as a


           15              corporation in application and paperwork and


           16              they really were not?  If this happened


           17              would that in invalidate their application?


           18              President McGoff, can you answer that


           19              question during motions, please, try not to


           20              forget.


           21                      As far as RFP's are concerned, I


           22              understand that one was not required and


           23              that the mayor could have selected anybody


           24              to take over, but he did not.  He put it out


           25              on an RFP which means that the rules must






            1              have been followed.  You cannot consider


            2              certain things for one bidder and not have


            3              the other bidders presented themselves in


            4              that area if it isn't in the initial


            5              specifications, and the bidder can't be


            6              selected on performance and the others


            7              rejected on another category.  Obviously,


            8              ECTV has no historical performance.  The


            9              background of Mr. Balton is his personal


           10              experience and not that of ECTV.  Obviously,


           11              if they had been in business and he worked


           12              for them then his experience can count.


           13              That did not happen.  ECTV has no


           14              experience.


           15                      Since RFP's were required by the


           16              mayor now that Mr. Balton is no longer a


           17              member of ECTV then another proposal with


           18              Mr. Migliore's qualifications and experience


           19              should be reviewed, he now is the head


           20              honcho.  By the way, congratulations to


           21              Mayor Doherty and the Doherty Three for


           22              their victory by awarding the contract to


           23              ECTV who has no money, no experience and no


           24              equipment, but many taxpayers who will pay


           25              their bills.  Thank you and congratulations






            1              again.  The people deserve the government


            2              they vote for.


            3                      The latest unemployment figures are


            4              released for the month of May.


            5              Scranton/Wilkes-Barre jumped to 6 percent,


            6              the second highest in the state, again, that


            7              is four months in a row unemployment has


            8              risen in the Scranton area and low income


            9              students in Scranton fought 52.7 percent,


           10              52.7 percent low income students, second


           11              highest in the state.  Only Wilkes-Barre has


           12              a higher rate, I wonder why?  Maybe because


           13              there are no jobs in Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.


           14              Oh, I forgot, according to Austin Burke, the


           15              president of the Chamber of Commerce, the


           16              Legion of Doom is responsible for that.


           17              Maybe if Mr. Burke would start doing his job


           18              as chamber president and stop whining about


           19              the Legion of Doom we can see some


           20              improvement.  Citizens, do not believe what


           21              you are told by the Doherty Times Tribune,


           22              things are not good in Scranton or


           23              Northeastern, Pennsylvania, why, because we


           24              have no leadership.  Just look at the


           25              official records that are provided by the






            1              state and the nation it will show that


            2              things are not going good in the City of


            3              Scranton.


            4                      I was going to ask Councilwoman


            5              Fanucci, but since she left again, president


            6              McGoff, Mrs. O'Malley said that OECD


            7              provided ECTV with $10,000, is that a


            8              truthful and accurate statement, Mr. McGoff?


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't know.


           10                      MR. JACKOWITZ: Can you please find


           11              out for me, and also I would like it in


           12              writing, not someone's word or not the word


           13              of mouth, I would like something official


           14              that states either OECD did donate the


           15              $10,000 to ECTV or they did not.  If they


           16              did not can you please follow-up and find


           17              out for the citizens of this city who did


           18              and who the East Scranton Business


           19              Association is.


           20                      I was shocked when I heard what Mrs.


           21              O'Malley said, and I believe Mrs. O'Malley,


           22              she has no reason to lie, but I'm giving the


           23              city and I'm giving city council the benefit


           24              of the doubt to please, and also


           25              Councilwoman Gatelli as finance chairperson,






            1              I think it's your responsibility, if that


            2              was taxpayers' money that was given to ECTV


            3              we need to know about it, meaning we, I, a


            4              taxpayer.  I pay over $2,000 a year in wage


            5              tax to this city, I want to know where it


            6              goes, you know, I'm not bought and paid for


            7              like some people.  Every job I have ever


            8              gotten I have gotten on my own merit, and I


            9              pay taxes every year, check my record, I


           10              have never been delinquent with taxes yet


           11              and I never will be and I never have been


           12              given a job or appointed a job by any


           13              politician of the City of Scranton or


           14              Lackawanna County, and you know something,


           15              at 60 years old I never will either, so


           16              please find this information out, we need to


           17              find out, this $10,000, is this OECD money,


           18              taxpayers' money or was it a gift given to


           19              them by the business association.  Free


           20              swimming the 12th and 13th of July at Nay


           21              Aug Park.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Hubbard.


           23                      MR. HUBBARD: Hi, Council, Elizabeth


           24              Hubbard, resident, taxpayer of Scranton.


           25              Who is in charge of road paving, what






            1              committee?


            2                      MS. EVANS: DPW.


            3                      MS. HUBBARD: Is that you, Mrs.


            4              Evans?


            5                      MS. EVANS: Although, I understand


            6              that the paving project can be curbing is


            7              running through OECD as well the monies for


            8              it are coming from that office and according


            9              to I believe either Mrs. Aebli or Mrs. Reed


           10              OECD will look over the meeting list and


           11              approve the streets and send that back to


           12              DPW and we have asked that we keep in mind


           13              that because of rise in costs and


           14              particularly I would say rise in costs of


           15              gasoline and materials used for paving that


           16              not as many streets will be paved as was


           17              originally anticipated.


           18                      MS. HUBBARD: Well, I have one


           19              street, that's a real problem, I'm sure you


           20              realize that Nay Aug Avenue and Ross Avenue


           21              are closed, Albright Avenue is closed, so


           22              now when you come off the Albright Avenue


           23              bridge from town you are forced to go around


           24              that Glenn Street, the S-turn around the


           25              Lace Works and over Mylert Avenue to get to






            1              where I live on Greenridge Street if that's


            2              where you are going.  That stretch of Glenn


            3              Street is horrendous, absolutely horrendous.


            4              Somebody is going to lose a wheel on that


            5              road and I think since we are going to be


            6              forced to use that way for quite sometime


            7              until they get whatever they are doing now


            8              on the levy project, which I believe is just


            9              sewer work, I think that the city should


           10              come in and do something about that because


           11              there is a lot more traffic on there now


           12              than there is normally and it's just


           13              atrocious, I mean, it's a horrendous road.


           14              I have been four-wheeling on the mountain


           15              roads that are in better shape than that


           16              one, so if you could do something about it.


           17                      And I'm also appalled about this


           18              whole ECTV thing, I cannot believe that the


           19              mayor has this much power to do something


           20              like that and that you people want to


           21              finance it when you couldn't give anything


           22              to Scranton Today, I don't understand it at


           23              all.  It's just appalling in my book.


           24              Anyway, have a good day.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mrs.






            1              Hubbard.


            2                      MR. DAVIS: Salaam aleikum.  I


            3              thought we meet at 10:30 in the morning on


            4              Tuesdays so that it's convenient to all


            5              those that are on the council, but it seems


            6              as though there are people who have other


            7              agendas, you know, when certain people come


            8              to the podium and leave the stands and I


            9              think it's -- I think ignorant on their


           10              parts for doing so, but some people have to


           11              go to the bathroom, I can understand that.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: For the record, that's


           13              where I went?


           14                      MR. DAVIS: Excuse me, what was that


           15              again?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I said for the record


           17              that's where I went.


           18                      MR. DAVIS: I'll talk back to you, if


           19              you don't mind, I will answer you.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: I just said that's


           21              where I went for the record.


           22                      MR. DAVIS: Okay, you gained weight


           23              since I first met you, too, but that's all


           24              right.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: You did too, by the






            1              way.


            2                      MR. DAVIS: I know.  Now that we have


            3              gone that far, I came here primarily to -


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Does that mean you're


            5              not going to ask me out now?


            6                      MR. DAVIS: You are talking to me?


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Yeah.


            8                      MR. DAVIS: You are actually talking


            9              to me?  Oh, wow, gee do you want to go out?


           10              I didn't know.  I'm single, you know, I'm


           11              able.  Okay.  All right.  This is serious.


           12              I come before you because my fathers, my


           13              grandfathers, my great-grandfather came


           14              before a tribunal like this to find out if


           15              they could vote, to find out when they were


           16              going to be able to vote and if their vote


           17              would be counted.  We have a long history of


           18              putting up with voting, just voting by


           19              itself, we won't even talk about the other


           20              things that went along with it, and I


           21              encourage everyone out there if you have a


           22              chance, if you have the ability to vote, if


           23              you have the age to vote please go out and


           24              vote.  I'm not asking you to vote for one


           25              party or another, but I'm saying to you it's






            1              important that the numbers show that we have


            2              a 90 percent, a 100 percent activity of


            3              those who are able to vote in Lackawanna


            4              County when it comes times, it really,


            5              really matters and so I'm asking you to


            6              please become active this time and register


            7              to vote and vote.  We have time to vote for


            8              the major or the general election, so I'm


            9              hoping that you will take me seriously.


           10              Mr. McGoff, I'm sorry that I'm talking about


           11              politics again.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: That's fine.


           13                      MR. DAVIS:  But I got involved with


           14              this president elect Obama and he is quite


           15              the guy, you know, and he does get your


           16              blood stirring and I'm very proud of it,


           17              too.  I'm very glad that I have the blood to


           18              stir.  I'm glad I'm not too old to stir and


           19              I think we should all be stirred.  This is a


           20              very serious situation worldwide.  This is a


           21              serious situation.  If you listen to your


           22              news you will find out there is lot of


           23              things that are getting ready to happen or


           24              are happening already, many, many


           25              atrocities, many just very strange things






            1              either by nature or by man and we have got


            2              to be able to help ourselves because I think


            3              that's going to be the next step is for us


            4              to help ourselves and help each other.  We


            5              have got to be friends.  We don't have a


            6              choice.  If we are going to survive the next


            7              ten years on this earth we have got to treat


            8              each other as friends at least, if we can as


            9              brothers and sisters, but all this nastiness


           10              and fighting that we find going between us


           11              or after us I think it's time to -- I think


           12              I it's time to just turn the book over, you


           13              know, just open the other book if you have


           14              to.  You should find it in the Bible, but if


           15              you don't find it in the Bible look for


           16              another book, look over the Koran, look


           17              somewhere else, but look at what direction


           18              you should be headed because it doesn't seem


           19              we are heading in the proper direction.


           20              There is too much -- there is too much


           21              wrongful dealings.


           22                      But the first man that got up here


           23              that I heard was on the scooter, and he is


           24              on a scooter, and I want to thank the people


           25              that don't hit me.  Seriously.  I go down --






            1              becomes sometimes the only way you can get


            2              down the street is in the street.  Some of


            3              the sidewalks are that bad, but I'm thankful


            4              the drivers in Scranton have not hit me yet


            5              and I'm very thankful to them, so be careful


            6              and I'll try be careful also and thank you.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Davis.


            8                      MR. LYMAN: Hold the time, Amil.  I


            9              have a couple of questions about ECTV.


           10              Number one, the voice is so slow that you


           11              can't hear it.  Number two, is Chris Doherty


           12              circumvented the constitution of free


           13              speech.  Scranton Today was an independent


           14              channel, how did Scranton Today, I mean,


           15              Mayor Doherty, could eliminate Scranton


           16              Today's rights or violate it.  Now, I want


           17              Kay Garvey to send a letter to the Supreme


           18              Court.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me --


           20                      MR. LYMAN: This is my time to speak,


           21              Mr. McGoff.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Oh, I'm just going to


           23              tell you Mrs. Garvey --


           24                      MR. LYMAN: Hold the time.


           25                      MS. MCGOFF: -- is not going to send






            1              a letter on your behalf.


            2                      MR. LYMAN: I ask city council.  You


            3              can do that, Mr. McGoff, on my behalf.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Continue.


            5                      MR. LYMAN: You will do it.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't think so, but


            7              that's okay.


            8                      MR. LYMAN: Or I'll just ask my


            9              friends to write the letter.  For, number


           10              one, the rights were violated because I want


           11              to know these questions how can Mayor


           12              Doherty take the right to 61, this is


           13              America, this ain't Nazi Germany, that


           14              should not be on, 61 should be on.  People


           15              fought and died for this country not for


           16              three crooks and that crook downstairs who


           17              stole $12.9 million.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, please don't


           19              call anybody a criminal.


           20                      MR. LYMAN: Well, where did that


           21              twelve point nine million dollars appear?


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: That is going to get you


           23              in trouble.


           24                      MR. LYMAN: Well, answer my question.


           25              Where did that 12.9 appear?  You are not






            1              answering my question.  It's a question.


            2              Their rights were violated, and I want that


            3              letter sent.  I'm paying your taxes,


            4              Mr. McGoff, and you forgot that somebody


            5              else is running for public office.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: You're paying my taxes?


            7                      MR. LYMAN: Mr. DiBileo and somebody


            8              else.  Mrs. Gatelli, I have a question to


            9              ask you.


           10                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, Mr. Lyman, what


           11              can I do for you?


           12                      MR. LYMAN:  You spent all of this


           13              money when you were president on city


           14              council for South Side, Pinebrook didn't get


           15              any money to fix their streets and


           16              sidewalks, senior citizens in wheelchairs


           17              have to go on the road, a woman was raped by


           18              homeless people, but yet South Side and


           19              Greenridge where the mayor has beat cops, we


           20              got a cop over there.


           21                      MS. GATELLI: You had a beat cop in


           22              Pinebrook.  Yes, you did.


           23                      MR. LYMAN:  Yeah, and it


           24              disappeared.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: Well, so did the one in






            1              South Side.


            2                      MR. LYMAN: I was down in South Side


            3              and I saw a beat cop there.


            4                      MS. GATELLI: Well, you are wrong


            5              because there isn't wrong.


            6                      MR. LYMAN: That's a bold-faced lie.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: No, you are lying.  You


            8              are lying.


            9                      MR. LYMAN: No, I'm not.  I was down


           10              there in South Side.


           11                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, there is no beat


           12              cop in South Side.


           13                      MR. LYMAN: Don't lie.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: I'm not lying.


           15                      MR. LYMAN: That justice program


           16              there was a beat cop down there.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Nobody is looking to


           18              argue with you.


           19                      MR. LYMAN: I'm not fighting.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Call the police


           21              department and you will find out that there


           22              is no beat cop.


           23                      MR. LYMAN: Mr. McGoff, would you


           24              please send a letter?  What do I have to do,


           25              give you money?






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: For the postage if I


            2              were going to send it, yes.


            3                      MR. LYMAN: I have to give you 42


            4              cents, and I'm paying you what is it $16,000


            5              a year and yet you stole 12.9 million


            6              dollars.  Well, when I become mayor


            7              hopefully you idiots are going to be gone.


            8              There will be a lot of changes.  A lot of


            9              changes.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Jim.


           11                      MR. STUCKER: He is nuts


           12              (Indicating.)


           13                      MS. GATELLI: Jim, that was the


           14              motion relevant thing you have ever done.


           15                      MR. STUCKER: He is crazy.  Okay, you


           16              know where Jilly's is?  Remember the house


           17              that was on fire?


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes, Jilly's;


           19              right?


           20                      MR. STUCKER: Remember the house on


           21              fire?  Okay, that grass is so high there.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You know what, Jim,


           23              the house on Greenridge Street I went and


           24              looked at, it's at Greenridge and Dickson so


           25              that one we will take care of, okay?  We are






            1              trying.


            2                      MR. STUCKER:  All right.  I heard to


            3              work for -- not work for, they own that lot


            4              where I -- by the old school, Goodwill owns


            5              it, the Goodwill own the property and I cut


            6              around the corner for a guy, I got paid for


            7              it, now, the city won't do that lot no more


            8              on account of Goodwill owns it.  I seen


            9              glass all over the back of the parking lot,


           10              in the back of the school.  There is kids


           11              back there playing, somebody is going to get


           12              hurt back there.  There is -- I see rats,


           13              mice back in there.  Same with the front,


           14              the front is like so high, somebody is going


           15              to get bitten there.  There has got to be


           16              rats and snakes in this grass.  They got to


           17              do something.  I mean, if they want to pay


           18              me I'll to it, Goodwill.  I can do it.


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  We'll report that for


           20              you, Mr. Stucker.


           21                      MR. STUCKER:  And up the street


           22              where the house was on fire that grass is


           23              high, I went by there today, and they're


           24              only doing it on their own side of the


           25              property where that -- on the other side






            1              where the grass is cut down and the other


            2              side where the house is on fire they aren't


            3              doing that, they are not doing that.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We are going to look


            5              into that one, too.


            6                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah.  All right.  And


            7              our garbage man picked up -- Pat told me


            8              that to tell you, Mr. Courtright, you got to


            9              do something, you got to get on these


           10              people's backs and do something.  He told me


           11              to tell you.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Tell me what, Jim?


           13                      MR. STUCKER: About different things,


           14              signs and stuff put up, I mean, you got to


           15              start doing something like Pat told me to


           16              tell you.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  About signs?


           18                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: What kind of signs?


           20                      MR. STUCKER: Saying "No Parking."


           21              We need signs up saying "No Parking", a lot


           22              of them.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: A lot of them?


           24                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah, we need them on


           25              Market Street, people on Oak Street is






            1              parking on the sidewalk now where the white


            2              van, people can't walk on the sidewalk, got


            3              to go out on the road.  Then what reason why


            4              they park on the sidewalk where the white


            5              van right there on Oak Street where that dip


            6              is.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Did you call the


            8              police, Jim?


            9                      MR. STUCKER: No.  The police, I


           10              don't know what they are going to do.  The


           11              police go there and tell them not to park


           12              there.  Now they are parking by the fire


           13              plugs, I seen them back.  Another one I seen


           14              them park on handicapped signs, handicap --


           15              for handicaps.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Call the police


           17              when you see that, Jim.


           18                      MR. STUCKER: Handicap they should


           19              not be parking.  People are going in stores


           20              like Gerrity's, any store they should never


           21              go into park in a handicapped zone.  They


           22              don't know how to read, they should not --


           23              Greenridge, all over, I have been seeing a


           24              lot of people parking in the handicapped


           25              signs.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: In Greenridge?  We


            2              will get officers on it and get somebody


            3              over there, all right?


            4                      MR. STUCKER: Okay.  Have a good day,


            5              a good Fourth of July.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,


            7              Mr. Stucker.


            8                      MR. DIBILEO: Good morning, city


            9              council.  Gary Dibileo, taxpayer, resident,


           10              business owner.  It's always a challenge to


           11              follow Jimmy Stucker.  Jim, you are doing a


           12              great job.


           13                      I was here just a few weeks ago


           14              asking you to keep Scranton Today and not


           15              use taxpayer money to let Mr. Doherty


           16              unfairly strip Scranton Today of managing


           17              Channel 61 and create which would be


           18              essentially his own TV channel.  This move


           19              of approximately $90,000 would open the


           20              flood gates of Mr. Doherty funneling a total


           21              of approximately $1 million of taxpayer


           22              money over the next five years through


           23              budgets.  This is nothing short of a form of


           24              censorship at the cost of the taxpayer.


           25              Please revisit the proposals, make it an






            1              even playing field and retain Scranton Today


            2              by giving nothing to ECTV.  Taxpayers have


            3              already taken a hit, several as a matter of


            4              fact, in the form of million dollars --


            5              millions of dollars in land value being


            6              sold, that being the Scranton Municipal Golf


            7              Course and the South Side Complex, taken on


            8              millions of dollars in borrowing, taking a


            9              25 percent tax increase, millions lost in


           10              arbitration awards and now for them to pay


           11              to have Mr. Doherty possibly control what


           12              they watch, all of this with millions being


           13              uncovered in the tax office as we speak, so


           14              please do the right thing and think of the


           15              taxpayers for a change.  Thank you very


           16              much.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. DiBileo.


           18                      MR. MCCLOE: Good afternoon.  My name


           19              is Brett McCloe, Scranton taxpayer, I really


           20              wasn't going to speak today and I just heard


           21              so many things come out and I'm always


           22              thinking, I'm always contemplating and I'm


           23              always observing and one of the things that


           24              struck me, although, you know, I'm no model


           25              citizen, I'm just a regular Scrantonian born






            1              and raised here, but one of the things I


            2              noticed and it's really starting to become


            3              apparent to me is, and I'm not trying to


            4              point you out, Mrs. Fanucci, but how


            5              powerful your position is, how much money


            6              comes through your position, how much can be


            7              shuffled around through your position.  You


            8              see it all, and it just seems to me that


            9              somehow this money seems to circulate around


           10              like some type of municipal welfare for


           11              everyone except to where it belongs


           12              especially to people who seem to live beyond


           13              their means, businesses that want the gift


           14              first and do the work later.


           15                      That $10,000 gift from that OECD


           16              thing you really need to check that out.


           17              It's filled with the appearance of


           18              impropriety and all of the nonconnected


           19              citizens of East Scranton as well as the


           20              rest of Scranton should be appalled that you


           21              are using tax money to pay tax things to get


           22              more tax money.  I don't have a bunch of


           23              letters after my name and I don't understand


           24              certain things, but I do know when I smell


           25              something funny.  I have been around in this






            1              city long enough to understand these things.


            2                   What kind of an economy are you


            3              developing when things like this can happen?


            4              Maybe some of these seats need to be changed


            5              around a little bit, get a different view.


            6              Mrs. Gatelli she is there by default, is


            7              there something that you really, really want


            8              to do?  What could you do up there?


            9              Mrs. Evans seems to be -- she was talking


           10              about she couldn't get things paid because


           11              something in your office, well, can't


           12              Mr. Courtright get it completed.  This is


           13              just getting a little old and we are wasting


           14              a lot of money.  Somebody is getting it.


           15              Like I said, thank you very much.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Anyone else?


           17              Mrs. Evans?


           18                      MS. EVANS: Good morning.  I wish to


           19              discuss two important issues today that


           20              affect our residents:  First, the ongoing


           21              controversy over ECTV.  Scranton Today,


           22              Channel 61, went dark June 30 at 9:30 a.m.,


           23              a time and date established by Comcast, our


           24              local cable provider.  Comcast was directed


           25              to pull the plug by the City of Scranton.






            1              Only one individual has the authority to


            2              issue that order and that one person is the


            3              mayor.


            4                      At our last meeting Mrs. Gatelli


            5              stated that the mayor has the authority to


            6              select whomever he wishes to operate Channel


            7              61 as occurred when a prior mayor collect


            8              selected Scranton Tomorrow and the Scranton


            9              Public Library nine years ago.  I wonder if


           10              any organizations besides Scranton Tomorrow


           11              expressed interest in creating and managing


           12              a peg channel at that time?  Perhaps


           13              Scranton Tomorrow was the only group willing


           14              to undertake this task and it's important to


           15              note that this founding body received no


           16              money from the City of Scranton for startup


           17              costs.


           18                      More importantly, however, was the


           19              proposals submitted in 2008 requested


           20              funding as well as an annual percentage of


           21              the cable franchise fee.  Knowing the


           22              funding requested would far exceed the


           23              city's bidding threshold of $20,000 the


           24              decision to issue an RFP or a request for


           25              proposals was appropriate.  Whether or not






            1              my council colleagues agree that an RFP was


            2              necessary, the fact remains that the mayor


            3              decided to go with the RFP process.


            4                   Therefore, it became council's


            5              responsibility to ensure that the process


            6              was fair and the decision made was


            7              responsible and affordable.  Council refused


            8              to investigate the selection process and


            9              overlooked ethics allegations and a zoning


           10              appeal.  Scranton City Council check and


           11              balance controls are not operating, ladies


           12              and gentlemen.  My insistence on reviewing


           13              the documentation is the standard required


           14              by any type of independent review, audit or


           15              investigation.  Further, the documented


           16              evidence would avoid any future suspicions


           17              that the justification for selecting ECTV


           18              was fabricated after the fact or it may


           19              reveal that no documentation existed as this


           20              was all smoke and mirrors to conceal the


           21              fact that the mayor simply did not want STTV


           22              and was determined to replace them since the


           23              removal of their TV cameras from council


           24              chambers failed in 2007.


           25                      In addition to the 20 significant






            1              concerns I raised about ECTV over the last


            2              several weeks, I have one more final issue


            3              to raise.  Apparently, the East Scranton


            4              Business Association has donated $10,000 to


            5              ECTV for startup costs.  According to


            6              sources, Mr. Gene McDonough, president of


            7              ESBA has stated it's $10,000 donation came


            8              from OECD.  This is highly unusual in light


            9              of council having tabled an OECD transfer of


           10              funds, and an OECD loan or grant to ECTV.


           11                   Also, any transfer of possible OECD


           12              funds given to the East Scranton Business


           13              Association which the SBA recently give to


           14              ECTV would require council approval.


           15              Without such, it appears that someone could


           16              have attempted to launder funds if this is


           17              true.


           18                      In addition, I question whether this


           19              money will be used for equipment purchases


           20              or for payment to the contractor for


           21              renovations to the ECTV studio and offices.


           22              Who is the contractor for the project?  I


           23              certainly hope it is not Mr. Darcy who is


           24              chairman of the ECTV board will sign the


           25              ECTV loan and thereby use these tax dollars






            1              to pay himself and his employees.  Council


            2              should investigate these issues immediately.


            3                   The second important issue today


            4              involves the independent forensic audit of


            5              the Single Tax Office.  Bidders or


            6              applicants for this audit were submitted to


            7              council for it's review by July 3.  I


            8              continue to believe that this process is


            9              sluggish while simultaneously numerous


           10              townships and the City of Scranton await our


           11              long overdue tax dollars.  This is an


           12              economy where citizens are losing homes,


           13              experiencing utility shutoffs, and choosing


           14              between groceries and medications.  People


           15              cannot afford tax increases in an economy


           16              where they are scraping to survive.


           17                      Equally at issue is the lost


           18              confidence in the tax office and elected


           19              officials.  As such, the forensic audit


           20              selection process and hiring should be


           21              should have occurred months ago, in fact, so


           22              the real work of sorting over $12 million


           23              can begin and money can be dispersed


           24              properly and sooner rather than later.


           25                      A 2009 dispersement date will only






            1              add to the suspicion of political


            2              gainsmanship as several elected offices, the


            3              tax collector position in particular, will


            4              be hotly contested next year.


            5                      Also, it doesn't appear that


            6              Mr. McDowell will appear at City Council


            7              according to his attorney and I will quote


            8              from the letter received by council, "To


            9              facilitate a useful and informative


           10              appearance by Mr. McDowell we will need


           11              access to and an opportunity to review the


           12              pertinent records and documents of the


           13              Single Tax Office in addition to


           14              specifications of the areas and inquiries


           15              sought.


           16                      If council is able to command or


           17              request of the current Single Tax Office


           18              administration that Mr. McDowell be provided


           19              with access to the next records and


           20              information, this would certainly serve to


           21              facilitate a conductive appearance as


           22              requested by council."


           23                      Now, I'm quite certain that Attorney


           24              Solfanelli is aware that the records that he


           25              alludes to will be in hands of the forensic






            1              auditor and/or the FBI, and so his


            2              statements he made really don't hold water


            3              and I believe that an elected official


            4              having served for a period of five years in


            5              the same office or perhaps it was six, I


            6              really don't know, certainly he should know


            7              his business, he should know that better


            8              than anyone else.  He is after all the


            9              gentleman who commingled tax funds and did


           10              so purposely, so I would see this letter


           11              really as nothing more than an attempt to


           12              circumvent city council.


           13                      I also have citizens' requests for


           14              this week.  First of all, though, I did want


           15              to say this is not one of the requests but


           16              rather it pertains to a prior request that


           17              coincidentally I believe was made while


           18              Mr. DiBileo served as president of City


           19              Council.  I had heard that the mayor is


           20              planning on putting $100,000 into Barrett


           21              Park, and I do remember in 2004 and 2005


           22              having that conversation and I recall


           23              council wanting funds to upgrade that park,


           24              but for whatever reason the money didn't


           25              come through.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I think it was --


            2              that was Mayor Connors that told us I think


            3              they had the money there from UDAG, I didn't


            4              track it personally to get that information


            5              and I could never get it, maybe they found


            6              the money.  He said 100,000 or better, I


            7              just don't know Mr. McGovern said the exact


            8              amount, but Mayor Connors had said at least


            9              $100,000 and it was UDAG money, so they


           10              didn't have to qualify under OECD.


           11                      MS. EVANS: Yes, and I do recall so


           12              many residents of the area asking for those


           13              improvements month after month after month


           14              for whatever reason, you know, as you said,


           15              that money just didn't appear so isn't it


           16              wonderful thing that now the work will


           17              finally be done.


           18                      A property at 14th Avenue and


           19              Luzerne Street, garbage and recycling bins


           20              remain on the sidewalk 24/7.  The garage


           21              area remains littered with junk, concrete


           22              and dirt piles and the neighbors are fed up.


           23              I am requesting action at this address for


           24              the fourth time.  Since this address is


           25              apparently ignored, I request a written






            1              response from Mr. Oleski on or before July 7


            2              as to why the city has failed to address the


            3              problems at this property for over two


            4              years.  Who is the owner and who is being


            5              protected?


            6                      895 Providence Road, the old Atlas


            7              Glass building, residents report that the


            8              problems on this property still have not


            9              been addressed and that is a second request.


           10                      3019 Pinmore Street in Minooka,


           11              neighbors report that the illegal vehicle


           12              remains.  Apparently, the inspectors


           13              assigned to that city area has not addressed


           14              it and this is also a second request.


           15                      2935-37 Pittston Avenue, this is a


           16              city owned property where the grass is


           17              highly overgrown.  Please clear this ASAP


           18              and this is a second request.


           19                      Next, if we could please learn of


           20              the phone number for ECTV so that citizens


           21              may have it for reference when calling to


           22              register for free classes or perhaps if they


           23              have programming questions, etcetera.  Also,


           24              2309 Wattress Avenue off the 2200 block of


           25              Ash Street, please pave, it hasn't been






            1              paved in many years.  It has been cold


            2              patched, but that is no longer suitable.


            3                   Also, pave Glenn Street which endures


            4              heavy traffic now and the street is in


            5              deplorable condition.  A memo to Mr. Hayes


            6              and Chief Elliott, residents of Tripp Park


            7              have expressed some safety concerns


            8              regarding a concert scheduled for July 3 at


            9              the Tripp Park Community Center, doors will


           10              open at 8:00 p.m. and the concert begins at


           11              12 midnight.  Undoubtedly, Mr. Hayes and


           12              Chief Elliott are aware of this and will


           13              respond to accordingly.  Residents of


           14              Dorothy Street are looking to our public


           15              safety department to ensure that order will


           16              be maintained particularly in light of the


           17              past gang related crimes in Tripp Park and


           18              the ongoing graffiti tagging of the Dorothy


           19              Street playground and, Kay, if we could


           20              please send that out today since, obviously,


           21              the concert date fast approaches.


           22                      And, finally, I'd like to wish


           23              everyone a very safe and enjoyable Fourth of


           24              July holiday and as we celebrate


           25              Independence Day let's remember our men and






            1              woman in the services who, well, the


            2              sacrifices that they and their family, their


            3              families, make for us each date are


            4              absolutely priceless, and that's it.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Evans.


            6              Mrs. Gatelli?


            7                      MS. GATELLI: First, I would like to


            8              say that I have sent a letter to


            9              Mr. Wallace, the zoning officer, requesting


           10              that city council be notified when zoning


           11              decisions are appealed and the dates of that


           12              appeal.  Many of them of the parties that


           13              wish to know about these cases cannot find


           14              out, so we will be receiving these notices


           15              from the zoning office.


           16                      The second thing I have is


           17              Mrs. Schumacher asked about what I have


           18              done.  On May 30 I did send a letter to Stu


           19              Renda on behalf of city council and Robert


           20              Rossi requesting an update to which they


           21              replied dated June 21, 2008, about 15 items.


           22              I requested that they expedite the responses


           23              to Robert Rossi in order to complete the


           24              audit.  We can resend this letter, Mrs.


           25              Garvey, and see if we can't get a response.






            1                   I, too, received the letter from


            2              Attorney Solfanelli concerning the


            3              appearance of former tax collector Ken


            4              McDowell coming before city council.  I have


            5              since found out that he will need the


            6              permission, and I'm not quite sure why, of


            7              Attorney McGovern and Tax Collector Vitali


            8              in order to for him to appear.  No?  I'm


            9              saying it wrong.


           10                      MR. MINORA: Attorney Dave Rinaldi


           11              needs that.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: Oh, attorney David


           13              Rinaldi needs the permission of Vitali and


           14              McGovern for Mr. McDowell to appear here.  I


           15              have spoken to Mr. Minora to expedite this


           16              and if we do not have a firm commitment by


           17              next Tuesday I will make a motion to begin


           18              an investigation and issue subpoenas, so I


           19              will do that next week.  This is the final


           20              week that they have to decide whether they


           21              are going to come voluntarily or whether


           22              they we have to issue subpoenas.  I don't


           23              like to do that, I don't think that


           24              governmental officials should not cooperate


           25              with each other, so it makes me very






            1              uncomfortable to think that I have to


            2              subpoena someone that's a public official


            3              just like I am, and if someone asked any of


            4              us up here to go somewhere I'm sure we would


            5              go without question, and if you can't answer


            6              the question you can't answer the question,


            7              that's okay, but at least come and, you


            8              know, try to cooperate as much as you can.


            9              So, I will make that motion next week if we


           10              do not hear from Attorney Minora as to the


           11              status of what is happening.


           12                      Handicapped curbcuts, Mr. Tobin came


           13              here talking about the curbcuts.  There is a


           14              committee, handicapped, I'm not sure the


           15              name of it, but it's for handicapped people


           16              and they meet at city hall, I think they


           17              meet monthly, and they are headed by Keith


           18              Williams, who is the director of the Center


           19              for Independent Living.  Keith has called me


           20              periodically with requests of curbcuts that


           21              were too high or too low or have potholes


           22              near them and they were addressed and they


           23              were taken of, so if Mr. Tobin would call


           24              city council and speak to Mrs. Garvey she


           25              can put him in touch with Keith Williams and






            1              Keith will certainly stay on top of it.  I


            2              apologize for any curbcuts that someone


            3              can't get over.  That is really unacceptable


            4              in my opinion, also.  So, we will try to


            5              take care of that as expeditiously as


            6              possible and Mr. Williams I believe is the


            7              president of that committee that meets in


            8              city hall.


            9                      The next thing I have is graffiti.


           10              I got a phone call from Gene Talerico,


           11              assistant district attorney, and through the


           12              Community Justice Office they are addressing


           13              the graffiti problem that we are having not


           14              only in the city but in the county, and they


           15              are working together with the city and with


           16              PennDOT and we did an ordinance in 1996


           17              concerning graffiti.  Sherwin Williams in


           18              South Scranton has agreed to donate some of


           19              the products for graffiti removal and I


           20              would like to publically thank them for


           21              their offer to help our city.


           22                      We are also having problem it seems


           23              with private property that has graffiti on


           24              it.  The owner is responsible and that's


           25              where Mr. Talerico is working in concert






            1              with the police department and the police


            2              chief.  Jeff Brazil is having men trained to


            3              use our graffiti machine that we have and


            4              the city will work with the DA and PennDOT


            5              to expedite the graffiti removal.  Anyone


            6              who has any graffiti in their neighborhoods


            7              or there has been quite a bit of it in the


            8              downtown area and there is some at Nay Aug


            9              that I noticed and some at Connell Park


           10              Little League on the dugouts, so if you have


           11              any graffiti that you would like to report


           12              call the police department, you may call the


           13              district attorney at 963-6717 or you can


           14              call our office 348--4113.  It's very


           15              important that graffiti be removed as soon


           16              as possible.  Usually they like to remove it


           17              within 48 hours, so I would like to thank


           18              you if you could cooperate on that issue.


           19                      I ready about the Com-D cops being


           20              reinstated and it's a great thing.  I'm


           21              happy they are going to be at the Midtown


           22              and in the neighborhoods and I'd also like


           23              to report that the Housing Authority has


           24              hired a full-time officer at both Hilltop


           25              and Valley View housing projects and there






            1              is a police officer also at Skyview.


            2                      The Minooka playground, yes, there


            3              is going to be money allocated to the


            4              Minooka playground.  I met there about six


            5              weeks ago with some of the neighbors and I


            6              did speak to the mayor about it.  It is in


            7              deplorable condition.  There seems to be


            8              groups hanging around there in the evening


            9              doing drugs and we need to spruce it up.


           10              There is a lot of children back there and I


           11              will be setting up a meeting with the


           12              neighbors again and have them involved in


           13              the decision making of what they would like


           14              to see happen back there, so that's the


           15              report on that.


           16                      The dog park, I just had to make a


           17              comment about the dog park, when the idea


           18              was first brought up I really thought it was


           19              rather silly.  I thought, a dog park, you


           20              know, that's a crazy thing.  I'm sure we


           21              have places where we can spend that money


           22              that are more important, but I have since


           23              come to understand that it is the most


           24              popular place in the county.  For any of you


           25              that haven't been there, just come up any






            1              given day and there is at least 40 dogs


            2              there.  Last night I was there for about an


            3              hour and 60 dogs were there, you know,


            4              coming and going.  It's just something that


            5              you can't imagine I guess unless you are a


            6              real dog lover that people find this really


            7              important and it's for socializing their


            8              dogs, but it's socializing for the human


            9              beings, I mean, people are meeting other


           10              people and they are walking through the park


           11              and some of the kids are on the playground


           12              and if you haven't been there you have to go


           13              because it's really something to see and


           14              something that I never would have believed


           15              would have been anywhere near the popularity


           16              that it has.


           17                      Also, it's not complete yet, we are


           18              awaiting fountains to give water to the dogs


           19              and for them to get wet when it's very hot


           20              and benches, and the neighbors have agreed


           21              to put up a small pavilion to sit under when


           22              it's very hot, but take a skip up there if


           23              you get a chance and you will really get a


           24              charge out of it.


           25                      I think that's all I have, and I






            1              also would like to wish everyone a happy


            2              Fourth of July and to pray that some day the


            3              war will end and some day the boys will come


            4              home and, you know, that the real wish is


            5              that we never have to have a war for people


            6              to be killed and to die for our freedom, but


            7              they are wonderful, they should be


            8              remembered and I salute them all and have a


            9              happy Fourth of July.  Thank you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Gatelli.


           11              Mrs. Fanucci?


           12                      MS. FANUCCI: I'd like to send a


           13              letter to Mark Seitzinger with council's


           14              approval, there is a hot dog vendor that's


           15              been parking outside of the Medallion Garage


           16              at night and I guess the idea is to get the


           17              children -- I don't want to say children,


           18              the kids on the way out of the bars to buy


           19              hot dogs at night and he has been not


           20              picking up after himself, so I'm not sure --


           21              what I'd like to know, you know, is this guy


           22              licensed, who is he and maybe if we can


           23              relocate him to a better spot that's not


           24              something that the city has to constantly


           25              maintain, you know, this seems to be a






            1              problem for, you know, the people who are


            2              out there renting, also, so I went to send a


            3              letter out on that.


            4                      Also, don't forget that Nay Aug on


            5              the Fourth of July, a wonderful place to be.


            6              It has been amazing how many people have


            7              been up in the park and today is Pink in the


            8              Park and that to help Susan B. Komen Cancer


            9              Foundation, so to go up and participate in


           10              that because that's a wonderful cause.


           11                      As far as the -- I need to speak on


           12              the OECD funding, Brett McCloe, I'm not sure


           13              you understand, I'm certainly not in charge


           14              of deciding who gets the money or doling out


           15              the money or giving the money, that has


           16              nothing to do with any one of our jobs up


           17              here our not to decide or -- I mean, none of


           18              us do that.  We are pretty much just are


           19              here to legislate, so that has nothing to


           20              do, like, I can't tell you who gets the


           21              money or how that's the city and the state's


           22              qualifications that people have to meet to


           23              get the money, so we are not in charge, you


           24              know, what you say a pocket full of money


           25              that I can disperse, I certainly wish I






            1              could, but I can't, but as far as our


            2              committees up here, we are definitely not in


            3              charge of any type of funding or anything


            4              that happens within the city, that is not


            5              our jobs, you know, our job is city council


            6              which is different from the city, so I just


            7              wanted to clarify that, that that is not my


            8              decision who gets the money and when they


            9              get the money, it's my job to vote on it,


           10              but it's certainly not doing that alone.


           11              You know, there is lots of people up here to


           12              vote.


           13                      As far as the ECTV, I can't believe


           14              that this has gotten to the contentious


           15              state it has gotten, not surprising though.


           16              I had said before and I will say again as


           17              long as the cameras on I'm very happy, and


           18              they are.  I turned on the TV today and I


           19              saw a beautiful screen and lot of fun new


           20              excitement for the city and for the people


           21              out there viewing I think it's going to be a


           22              wonderful change because there is going to


           23              be more to see.


           24                      We had done some -- I personally


           25              made some phone calls to find out that there






            1              was a lot of programming that was available,


            2              this is water under the bridge, but there


            3              was a lot of free programming that I think


            4              that if ECTV takes advantage of it might be


            5              a very good thing.


            6                      Also, I do agree that maybe these


            7              two entities should try to work together.


            8              It couldn't be a bad thing for people to


            9              come together and help each other, but for


           10              the way that this has gone down and the


           11              typical, and I have to say typical behavior


           12              of just bashing and going out at a very


           13              negative way is the outcry has been from


           14              this audience, but as far as the rest of the


           15              city I have not seen it.  I really haven't,


           16              so I'm happy to say that as long as the


           17              cameras on I will be very happy.


           18                      City council needs to be on.  I


           19              believe that local government they should


           20              put the county on, they should put


           21              everything on, let everybody see, I don't


           22              think that that that's a problem at all, but


           23              as far the hostile taxover I don't know how


           24              hostile it is.  We saw what happens here


           25              today and that will be all aired, so, I






            1              mean, I don't think there is a chance to say


            2              that this is not what happens here happens


            3              here regardless.  This is city government


            4              and it's at it's finest, folks, so, believe


            5              me, you are not going to miss any of it.


            6                      And that is all I have to say except


            7              I wish everyone a safe, happy Fourth of


            8              July, safe being the biggest part and hope


            9              that the people who are over there fighting


           10              for our freedom know that there are people


           11              over here who are appreciating every second


           12              that they give to us and that is all.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Fanucci.


           14              Mr. Courtright?


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah.  I see that we


           16              are going to be on the air, I have no way of


           17              getting back to these people that sent me


           18              this letter other than hopefully I'm


           19              assuming that they watch city council.  They


           20              sent me a lengthy letter about a situation


           21              on Washburn Street, they don't want to be


           22              identified, I don't even believe they want


           23              me to identify the problem on the air for


           24              fear of what would happen, so for those of


           25              you who sent me this letter I will turn it






            1              over to the appropriate people and hopefully


            2              it will do something to solve your problem.


            3                   I don't know, I must be out of the loop


            4              here, I didn't hear anything about this


            5              $10,000 until somebody came to the podium


            6              and spoke about it and whether it was done


            7              properly or not done properly I don't know,


            8              but, once again, if it was done and it was


            9              done properly it still gives the impression


           10              that something is trying to be done


           11              backdoor, you know, $10,000 to an


           12              organization to that sends it over to ECTV I


           13              don't think is the right way to start.  You


           14              know, you are getting off on a bad foot now


           15              in my eyes.  I would like to ask, I don't


           16              know, I know everybody spoke on this, if


           17              this council would be agreeable to not only


           18              asking Mrs. Aebli, you know, to fill us in


           19              and see if everything was done properly, but


           20              to whoever she reports to, to ask them to


           21              also take a look at it so that no one would


           22              be able to say it was done improperly and if


           23              it was done improperly, obviously, let's


           24              rectify it.  To me, it just doesn't seem


           25              right if you gave money to an organization






            1              and the organization turned it over to ECTV


            2              something doesn't seem right to me there.


            3                      MS. EVANS: Maybe make a motion.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I will make a motion


            5              that we send a letter to Mrs. Aebli and ask


            6              Ms. Aebli to send it to whoever she answers


            7              to in the state or federal government to see


            8              if this transfer of $10,000 from the East


            9              Scranton Neighborhood Association to ECTV


           10              was done legally.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll second that.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


           13                      MS. EVANS: We already have calls


           14              into Mrs. Aebli and Lori Reed.  I had


           15              contacted Kay yesterday and asked for a


           16              comprehensive explanation from OECD.  I know


           17              Mrs. Gatelli put in a phone call this


           18              morning for similar purposes.  The


           19              information that we have received to date


           20              which, of course, is not definitive is that


           21              there is no record of OECD funds having been


           22              awarded to the SBA, but there is still,


           23              obviously, there are numerous years to check


           24              back into and so they are in process of


           25              doing so.  I do, however, agree with your






            1              idea to take it step further if, indeed,


            2              this is the case.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: If one leads to the


            4              next then --


            5                      MS. EVANS: Yes, and in that event


            6              then certainly I think HUD should be


            7              notified, any other state or federal


            8              governments as necessary so that they can


            9              investigate what's been occurring in the


           10              office.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else in the


           12              question?  All those in favor signify by


           13              saying aye.


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           19              ayes have it and so moved.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm going to stay


           21              with ECTV for just a little bit.  One of the


           22              panel members that selected ECTV had left me


           23              their phone number and their name and my


           24              karate school and asked me to call with any


           25              questions I have and I did call them and we






            1              talked about, and I'm not going to go


            2              through the whole conversation, but one


            3              thing I believe I told him was that I was at


            4              two different graduation parties this week


            5              and one at the Villa Maria and one at the


            6              Harbor House and in both of those, the very


            7              first thing that grabbed me when I came in


            8              the door at Villa Marie was there was a


            9              table of young ladies ranging I would


           10              imagine from 60 to 75 years old and the


           11              first thing they said to me was that they


           12              are upset about the fact, you know, that


           13              it's got not going to be played more than


           14              once.  Some of them don't have computers,


           15              some of them don't want to go on their


           16              computer to watch it, all right, and I got


           17              the same thing when I was at the Harbor


           18              House from some people, they were younger


           19              people.


           20                      And so when I talked to the


           21              gentleman that was on the selection


           22              committee he thought that that shouldn't be


           23              a problem for ECTV to play it more than just


           24              one time.  He couldn't see why they wouldn't


           25              be willing to do something like that and I






            1              don't suggest that ECTV play this four or


            2              five times a day, five days a week, that's


            3              not my suggestion.  I thought a bare minimum


            4              of three replays so that you would afford


            5              everybody that works each and every shift,


            6              somebody that works first, second or third


            7              shift if you did it that way at the bare


            8              minimum at least people on off shifts would


            9              have an opportunity to see whatever it is


           10              they were interested in watching.  I mean,


           11              there is more to Channel 61 than Scranton


           12              City Council, I actually watch some of the


           13              shows myself, which brings one other thing


           14              to mind.  I know AJ Munchak was here and


           15              saying that the county gives money to


           16              Scranton Today at the time and the city does


           17              and now the city wants to give $90,000 and


           18              part of the discussion I had with the


           19              gentleman on the selection committee was


           20              that he was saying, you know, they were


           21              going to be expanding coverage of somebody


           22              say, for instance, someone, you know, they


           23              taped it, they are going to try and train


           24              people that wanted to be trained to use the


           25              equipment and go out and film things and I






            1              said that's fine, but now I started


            2              thinking, you know, why does the burden fall


            3              mostly on the City of Scranton?  If we are


            4              going to be doing the entire viewing area,


            5              if we are going to give money from our OECD


            6              I'm sure the other viewing areas have OECD


            7              money or other money, how about them kicking


            8              in a little bit?  And I understand, you


            9              know, if it's in the county the county is


           10              giving their share, but we are also in the


           11              county, so if we are going to be doing


           12              program for all of these other areas I would


           13              ask ECTV to go out and ask those other


           14              municipalities to donate money.  I don't


           15              think the full burden should fall on the


           16              City of Scranton or the bulk of the burden


           17              anyway.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI: The school board.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, if the school


           20              board wants to.  The only thing about the


           21              school board you are hitting the same


           22              taxpayers, Scrantonians.  I would like to


           23              see, you know --


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Their pockets are a


           25              little deeper than ours.  They get a lot






            1              more money than we do, so I'd like to see


            2              them hit up.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, but we're


            4              still hitting the Scrantonians.  I believe


            5              the game that they had one time involving


            6              Mr. Saunders was either Bloomsburg or


            7              Stroudsburg College, I don't know what the


            8              game was --


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Bloomsburg.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, they are


           11              seeing it out that far, maybe they would be


           12              willing to donate money if they are enjoying


           13              the programming, and I'll leave it at that


           14              with Channel 61 for right now.


           15                      I had a list of questions given to


           16              me by somebody and one of the questions was


           17              where can somebody call concerning drug


           18              activity in their neighborhood and right now


           19              I believe you would have to call the police


           20              desk and they would transfer that


           21              information over.  I'll check and see if


           22              there is any one specific number for drug


           23              activity, but right now I don't think there


           24              is.  The other question that I didn't get a


           25              chance to take a look on, but they are






            1              saying to me the flags at the fire station


            2              on Mulberry Street is worn and dirty and


            3              they would like to see it replaced.  I


            4              didn't get an opportunity, I cam down the


            5              other way, so I'll take a look at it and see


            6              if we can get it replaced.


            7                      And and oldie but a goodie, the


            8              William Schmidt plaque that was in the South


            9              Side field I don't know what has happened to


           10              that, I don't know if anybody on council


           11              knows, I know Mrs. Evans was big on that, is


           12              it ever going to be replaced?


           13                      MS. EVANS: No.  We have been trying


           14              to track that down since you and I first


           15              took seats on council and I did hear that it


           16              was at the DPW.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: If they want find it


           18              would they -- Kay, if they can't find the


           19              plaque would you ask Mr. Brazil if they


           20              would make a new one?  I don't know.


           21                      MS. EVANS: Maybe they will now under


           22              Mr. Brazil.  I know I had asked for a new


           23              plaque from Mr. Parker and that never


           24              happened.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: And then where are you






            1              going to put it?


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Well, they are not


            3              going to be able to put it at South Side


            4              anymore, so whatever field the mayor gives


            5              to the players from South Side maybe we'll


            6              ask to have it put there.  I know they


            7              are -- my understanding is there they are


            8              looking at another location.


            9                      As I came to the meeting this


           10              morning I rode by because somebody asked


           11              about the Sunoco station on Mulberry Street


           12              right where you come off the bridge, I know


           13              it's one of the gateways to the city, why


           14              does it look the way it looks and what's


           15              going to be done there and they were cutting


           16              the grass and all of the weeds there were as


           17              I came over, but maybe, Kay, if we can ask


           18              the administration --


           19                      MS. GATELLI: I know what's going to


           20              be done.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, you know?


           22                      MS. GATELLI: It just came before the


           23              zoning board last month and there is going


           24              to be a Dunkin Donuts there.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, okay.  Great.






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  So, you know, I don't


            2              know why the paper I think did the article,


            3              Stacy, Pat McKenna he usually does the


            4              editorials, tell him that that Sunoco


            5              station has been approved by the zoning


            6              board to be a Dunkin Donuts just at the last


            7              zoning meeting, so I found that interesting


            8              when I read that there is something being


            9              done with it.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Another coffee shop,


           11              as Mr. McGoff said, that's exactly what we


           12              need.  Kay, one for Mr. Brazil, the Washburn


           13              Street Bridge down where the old Gress


           14              Poultry and it's looking a little bit like a


           15              jungle down there if somebody can go down


           16              there and I believe the DPW would take care


           17              of that.


           18                      And I'll probably have Ray Lyman


           19              coming back here yelling at me next week,


           20              but, Ray, there are no beat cops anywhere in


           21              the city for the longest time.  My


           22              understanding is that today they are


           23              supposed to hit the streets again and I hope


           24              that's true and I would just like to commend


           25              everyone on this council because all five of






            1              us were very eager to see that come back and


            2              it has and the more cops in my opinion the


            3              better, and that is all I have.  Thank you.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            5              Mr. Courtright.  Just a couple of quick


            6              things.  Somebody mentioned, Mrs. Schumacher


            7              mentioned something that the Rec Authority


            8              was not on the agenda.  I believe that that


            9              passed last week.  That was in Seventh Order


           10              last week just for your information sake.


           11                      MS. GATELLI: But it was changed


           12              maybe she didn't know.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: It was amended to a


           14              25-year term and it did pass through


           15              council.  Just very quickly on the ECTV


           16              thing, just on the selection of ECTV, I


           17              think that by implication we have -- or some


           18              people have started to attack or are


           19              attacking the selection process and by


           20              implication attacking the integrity of the


           21              people on the selection committee.


           22                      I have spoken with two of the


           23              members of that committee, I find them to be


           24              reputable and honest people who I believe


           25              took the job of selection seriously.  I






            1              don't like the idea that we are in some way


            2              impuning their integrity and their honesty


            3              by questioning the process of selection.  We


            4              may not have agreed with the selection


            5              process or how it came about or the final


            6              decision, but I don't think that it's


            7              necessary to attack the people that were


            8              members of that committee.


            9                      I do agree that we should as


           10              somebody suggests be very careful about


           11              following the funding for ECTV, next week


           12              hopefully we will have the legislation on


           13              for an oversight -- the oversight committee


           14              that we had spoken of to approve that.


           15                      Also, in addition to inquiring


           16              through OECD as to the $10,000 that has been


           17              mentioned that was used as startup for ECTV


           18              I think it would be -- that we should also


           19              contact Mr. Darcy and, you know, or the


           20              board of the ECTV and ask, you know, what


           21              the source of that $10,000 was and if, in


           22              fact, they did receive $10,000 from some


           23              government source, be it OECD or some other


           24              place in government, that we should ask for


           25              an accounting of the expenditures that they






            1              have from that revenue that they received


            2              and I will attempt to do that.


            3                      A couple of -- one thing was


            4              mentioned about the tax office and the


            5              forensic audit again.  Just in speaking with


            6              some people and the forensic accountant, his


            7              comment was that a forensic audit, while


            8              it's probably needed, a forensic audit looks


            9              for possible criminal activity or


           10              malfeasance on the part of someone.  It was


           11              his belief that what's really needed at the


           12              tax office is a simple auditing of


           13              accounting principals to determine where


           14              that $12 million, you know, came from, where


           15              it should go and how it can be prevented in


           16              the future.  He said that, you know, yes, a


           17              forensic audit is needed, but there also may


           18              be a need for a more extensive audit dealing


           19              with more accounting principals than just


           20              looking for malfeasance if we are ever going


           21              to resolve what's taking place there, so for


           22              what it's worth.


           23                      And the last thing we have talked a


           24              little bit about some of the playgrounds and


           25              all and this past first few months of the






            1              summer I have been following my grandson


            2              around as he plays teener league and legion


            3              baseball and had the opportunity to go to a


            4              number of, you know, fields and playgrounds


            5              and one in particular stood out that as I


            6              got there I took a look at Battaglia Field


            7              which the field itself is in great shape,


            8              they have done a great job of, you know, the


            9              actual baseball field, but the surrounding


           10              areas and especially the stairwell or the


           11              staircase and the wall that leads up to the


           12              playground is overgrown and in really


           13              difficult shape much as Weston Park was at


           14              one time with the stone wall that's there,


           15              and I spoke to Mark Dougher and he did say


           16              that there is some plans to do some work


           17              there, but certainly that's an area that


           18              could use some renovation and some


           19              groundskeeping, whatever, and hopefully that


           20              something will be done there because my


           21              memory is that underneath all of that brush


           22              and all is, again, a beautiful stone masonry


           23              wall and staircase that really should be


           24              uncovered.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Mr. McGoff, if we






            1              can think about it, obviously, when I was a


            2              little boy it looked a lot better than it


            3              was now, but maybe I'll speak with Don


            4              Hazzouri, he kinds it run it down there.  If


            5              this council would consider if we get some


            6              or CDBG money this year, maybe giving some


            7              specifically for that field.  The field is


            8              good, I believe West Side's baseball team is


            9              playing there now and the field is in good


           10              shape, so I would really love to see


           11              something done with that hill there, there


           12              is some nice stonework on there, so I'll


           13              speak with them and maybe this council would


           14              be willing to donate -- or not donate,


           15              appropriate some money this year for that.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Tell him to apply.  I


           17              think he asked for it.


           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  He has.  They did


           19              the for lack of a better word the field


           20              house and another thing not as much on the


           21              hill other than their own hard blood, sweat


           22              and tears up there, but they need a parking


           23              lot paved, they need an awful lot of work


           24              down there, but maybe we could start off


           25              giving them something for that, I'm glad you






            1              brought it up.


            2                      MS. GATELLI: You know what, I'll


            3              find out from Linda Aebli if there is any


            4              machine.  I think they told me there is


            5              money they haven't used yet, but that some


            6              of the board members want to do one project


            7              and some want to do another and they can't


            8              agree on what they want to do.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Maybe we can tell


           10              them if you specifically put in for that


           11              think we will all vote for it.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: I'll find out.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: And, finally, a couple


           14              of people have used the term bought and paid


           15              for today and I personally resent that


           16              implication.  That verges on slander if I'm


           17              not mistaken and the implication of bribery


           18              and I don't argue with anyone who wants to


           19              question my voting record, you know, that's


           20              your prerogative, but when you start to


           21              defame my integrity, my honesty, my good


           22              name, then I do take offense and if it's


           23              going to happen in the future then I am


           24              going to ask the people to present evidence


           25              or that there has been bribery involved or






            1              desist from implying it, and that is all.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Mr. McGoff, before we


            3              end, I was wondering if my requests could be


            4              sent on behalf of council, the citizens'


            5              requests?


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Absolutely.  I thought


            7              that was --


            8                      MS. EVANS: Rather than just


            9              singularly.


           10                      MS. GATELLI: Sure.


           11                      MS. EVANS: And one final comment,


           12              I'll speak only for myself and my purpose


           13              was never to impune the integrity or


           14              reputation of any of the members of the


           15              selection committee, however, since this


           16              selection was made many red flags,


           17              significant red flags, have arisen


           18              concerning the group that was chosen for the


           19              operation of the peg channel and when


           20              circumstances such as that occur in business


           21              or in government, and I have said this


           22              before, whether it's local, state or federal


           23              government an investigation ensues, and just


           24              as Mr. McGoff was saying if he is going, you


           25              know, if anyone should be impuning him he is






            1              going to request evidence.  Well, this is a


            2              similar circumstance in that there is great


            3              evidence here, evidence abounds about this


            4              process and the organization who has been


            5              selected, yet council turns a blind eye to


            6              all of the evidence.  I think council is not


            7              doing it's job which is to I think operate


            8              as a check and balance to the executive


            9              branch and I haven't seen that happen.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: I myself am very happy


           11              with the job I am doing, but thank you very


           12              much for your, you know, assessment of the


           13              whole thing.  As you have said, you know,


           14              you have done all you can.  It was, you


           15              know, your job to do the opposite, to make


           16              sure that 61 stayed where they were.  It's


           17              also my job to worry about what stays on the


           18              air and I'm very happy that something is on


           19              the air and I'm very happy to give someone a


           20              chance, and I know that this has become more


           21              than what it should have been which is just


           22              public access and it has been obvious by a


           23              lot of comments that have been made and


           24              people's behavior and how they act and how


           25              they don't know how to behave themselves in






            1              public and talk about the facts and only the


            2              facts, so I do believe you reap what you


            3              sow.  If you decide to act that way that is


            4              exactly what you will get in return.


            5                      I myself am very happy, happy with


            6              the selection I have made, happy with the


            7              fact that I will voting and happy with the


            8              fact that there is someone new to take over


            9              and hopefully we will see a whole different


           10              view of what is out there in the city and


           11              more of the city.  So, I'm glad you were


           12              speaking on behalf of council, but next time


           13              please speak on behalf of yourself.


           14                      MS. EVANS: Well, that's precisely


           15              what I was doing, speaking on behalf of


           16              myself, and I will say my job is not to do


           17              the opposite, my job is to represent the


           18              people of the City of Scranton, not my own


           19              views, their views, and to listen to their


           20              concerns and to do my homework and sometimes


           21              it does appear that I might be the only one


           22              doing the homework on the issues and I don't


           23              make my decisions in a vacuum nor do I make


           24              them to be contrary.  My decisions are based


           25              on facts, statistics, information supplied






            1              and the research I perform beyond that.  I'm


            2              not a proponent of any one group or any one


            3              organization, I'm just exercising my


            4              responsibilities as an elected official and


            5              if that's disturbing to, you know,


            6              individuals who see no need to investigate


            7              serious concerns and red flags, well, then


            8              that's certainly your prerogative.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: You are very good at


           10              putting out there what you just want to put


           11              out there, it's amazing to me.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Please.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm going to say one


           14              thing though, you know, your innuendoes and


           15              your insinuations have been amazing since


           16              the day I sat here, but no longer will I be


           17              listening to them.  Yes, you are right, I


           18              will do what I want to do for the people of


           19              the city.  You are not the only one who is


           20              elected and you certainly not the only one


           21              who does what needs to be done here.  I know


           22              that, you know, to self-pat your back -- pat


           23              yourself on the back has been a very good


           24              thing for you, but there are other people in


           25              this city, not just, you know, the people






            1              you feel you represent.  There was not an


            2              outcry.  There was not an outpour.  I know


            3              that you get hundreds and thousands of


            4              e-mails a day, but so do the rest of us.


            5              So, please, just stop being one person and


            6              be a part of the group.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: We are getting personal


            8              here.


            9                      MS. GATELLI: I'd just like -- I'm


           10              not getting personal.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: No.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  I just have one thing


           13              to say, that we think there may be a problem


           14              with the 10,000 and we all voted for it, so


           15              I think that speaks for itself.  I think


           16              that we are all interested in things if they


           17              are not right.  Your relationship with who


           18              you want to run the channel is different.  I


           19              may have a different opinion than other


           20              people up here, but if there is a problem


           21              and a red flag, you know, we all voted, yes,


           22              on finding out about that money, so I think


           23              we are all concerned about the citizens in


           24              the community and I think we will all


           25              continue to try to work together to make






            1              things better for everybody.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you.  I know I


            3              keep saying one last thing.  I guess there


            4              was scrolled I believe on Channel 61 a


            5              blight hotline and pothole line number at


            6              one time and apparently someone called the


            7              city and said that they had left something


            8              like 25 messages and no one had ever gotten


            9              back to them.  Apparently, whatever number


           10              was there had been discontinued, but it


           11              somehow was continuing to take messages and


           12              so when this woman finally called they have


           13              investigated and found there was somewhere


           14              around 45 messages left on the hotline, the


           15              blight hotline.  Mr. Oleski is contacting


           16              each of those persons realizing that it's,


           17              you know, some of the calls are from a few


           18              months past, but that the blight hotline is


           19              now operational and someone is responding to


           20              those.  They are investigating as to whether


           21              the pothole hot line number whether there is


           22              messages somewhere that can be used, so if


           23              you have a blight issue that hotline is


           24              available.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: Mr. McGoff, maybe in






            1              light of the some of the things that were


            2              discussed here today maybe we can find out


            3              about putting in a graffiti hotline and a


            4              drug hotline also on the television whether


            5              it go to the DA or the city police I think


            6              those are two other necessary numbers that


            7              we need to setup some type of an answering


            8              machine for if you could investigate that.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: I will look into it.


           10              I'm sure there is probably some type of, you


           11              know, drug hotline somewhere that all we


           12              need to do is --


           13                      MS. GATELLI: Is advertise the


           14              number.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: -- advertise it, and the


           16              other one, the graffiti one, I'm not sure,


           17              but I'm sure that we could arrange something


           18              that there would be a line to call and I


           19              will look into it.  Thank you.


           20                      MS. GATELLI: Thanks.  And I'll call


           21              Mr. Talerico.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: I think that's all.


           23                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR












            2              NEW WEST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            4              entertain a motion that 5-B be introduced


            5              into it's proper committee.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


            9                      MS. EVANS: If there are any


           10              residents of the area who feel they will be


           11              negatively impacted by the transfer of this


           12              easement, I hope you will contact the office


           13              of city council or come to a council meeting


           14              next week and express your points of view


           15              because it would certainly not be my


           16              intention to infringe on your rights as a


           17              property owner by passing this legislation.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: I would like to comment,


           19              also, in the backup it says there is no


           20              change in the project, the easement simply


           21              allows the district additional access to the


           22              parcel in a more timely fashion and the


           23              words additional access, and also in a more


           24              timely fashion, I would like some


           25              clarification as to what that actually means






            1              and if that does mean that we are going to


            2              cause further inconvenience to the property


            3              owners around that parcel of land certainly


            4              I would agree with you that if there is


            5              anyone that has a problem with this


            6              legislation that they please contact council


            7              and I would also like to have some


            8              clarification on those on the idea of


            9              additional access and what that means.


           10              Anyone else?  All those in favor of


           11              introduction signify by saying aye.


           12                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           17              ayes have it and so moved.


           18                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           19              A RESOLUTION - REAPPOINTING DAVID CARDEN,


           20              248 WILBUR STREET, SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA,


           21              18508, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF ZONING


           22              APPEALS FOR THE CITY OF SCRANTON.  MR.


           23              CARDEN'S TERM EXPIRES ON JULY 1, 2008 AND


           24              HIS NEW TERM WILL EXPIRE ON JULY 1, 2011.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll






            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


            2              introduced into it's proper committee.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           12              ayes have it and so moved.


           13                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO


           14              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A.




           16              SAFETY - FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO.


           17              23, 2008 - ESTABLISHING A "NO PARKING" ZONE




           19              (S.R. 3027) FROM THE NOW VACATED HITCHCOCK


           20              COURT EAST TO A POINT SEVENTY FIVE FEET


           21              (75') EAST OF THE CENTER LINE OF ROYAL WAY








           25              FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO ROYAL WAY.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            2              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            3              Committee on Public Safety?


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As Chairperson for


            5              the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend


            6              final passage of Item 7-A.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


            9              call, please.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           13                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           20              Item 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.


           21                      MS. GARVEY: 7-B. FOR CONSIDERATION


           22              BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY FOR


           23              ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 24, 2008 -




           25              SIDE OF MULBERRY STREET (S.R. 3027) FROM THE








            2              COURT, THE SAME DISTANCE AS MORE




            4              ATTACHED HERETO, IN THE "NO PARKING" ZONE




            6              THE DRIVEWAY OF THE NEW UNIVERSITY OF


            7              SCRANTON CAMPUS CENTER.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


            9              recommendation of the chairperson for the


           10              Committee on public safety?


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: As Chairperson for


           12              the Committee on Public Safety I recommend


           13              final passage of Item 7-B.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  On the question?


           16              Roll call, please.


           17                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           18                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           20                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           23                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           25                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            2              Item 7-B legally and lawfully adopted.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: 7-C. FOR CONSIDERATION




            5              FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 25, 2008


            6              - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 123, 2007,


            7              ENTITLED, "AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE




            9              CITY OF SCRANTON TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY






           12              DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS (AS AMENDED) TO BE




           14              GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM, HOME INVESTMENT




           16              SHELTER GRANT (ESG) PROGRAM," BY


           17              TRANSFERRING $216,371.58 FROM PROJECT 05-154


           18              FRIENDSHIP HOUSE AND $24,371.58 FROM PROJECT


           19              05-154.1 FRIENDSHIP HOUSE TO PROJECT 07-04


           20              PAVING OF CITY STREETS TO INCLUDE


           21              HANDICAPPED CURB CUTS.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           23              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           24              Committee on Community Development?


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: As Chairperson for the






            1              Committee on Community Development, I


            2              recommend final passage of Item 7-C.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  Roll


            5              call, please?


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            7                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            9                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           11                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           16              Item 7-C legally and lawfully adopted.


           17              Prior to reading 7-D I believe that this was


           18              the one that we wished to table so I need a


           19              motion to table.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll make a motion to


           21              table 7-D.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All


           24              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            5              ayes have it and so moved.  Item 7-D is


            6              tabled.


            7                      MS. GARVEY: 7-E. FOR CONSIDERATION


            8              BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES - FOR ADOPTION -


            9              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 27,2008 - APPROVING THE




           11              CURRENTLY OWNED BY ANN MARIE KULICK T/A


           12              ANN'S BAR, 160 BOULEVARD AVENUE, THROOP, PA


           13              18512, LICENSE NO. R-15082 TO KENDRA A.


           14              RICCIO ENTERPRISES, LLC T/A/ "BALLINA" FOR


           15              USE AT 2934 BIRNEY AVENUE, SCRANTON, PA. AS




           17              BOARD.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: As chairperson for the


           19              Committee on Rules, I recommend final


           20              passage of Item 7-E.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll


           23              call, please.


           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


           25                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.






            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            2                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


            9              Item 7-E legally and lawfully adopted.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: 7-F. FOR CONSIDERATION


           11              BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY - FOR


           12              ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 29, 2008 -


           13              ACCEPTING AND ORDAINING A FOUR (4) FOOT


           14              PORTION OF LAND TO WIDEN A PORTION OF


           15              LAVELLE COURT IN THE VICINITY OF THE FIVE




           17              RIGHT OF WAY TO TWENTY (20) FEET.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the


           19              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


           20              Committee on Public Safety?


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  As chairperson for


           22              the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend


           23              final passage of Item 7-F.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll






            1              call, please.


            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            5                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.  I hereby declare


           12              Item 7-F legally and lawfully adopted.


           13              Motion to adjourn?


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank for your


           16              participation and cooperation.


























            2                      C E R T I F I C A T E




            4        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            5   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            6   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            7   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            8   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            9   ability.













                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI, RPR

           16                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER