1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING








            5                          HELD:




            7                   Tuesday, April 8, 2008




            9                        LOCATION:


           10                    Council Chambers


           11                 Scranton City Hall


           12              340 North Washington Avenue


           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania





















                            CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER






















                MS. JANET E. EVANS



            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI



                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT



           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK






           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR


























            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and


            2              moment of reflection observed.)


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Roll call, please.


            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.


            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


            7                      MS. GATELLI.  Here.


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.  Dispense with


           14              the reading of the minutes.


           15                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A.




           17              BUDGET FOR 2008.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?


           19              If not, received and filed.


           20                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for Third


           21              Order.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: If anyone has any


           23              announcements?


           24                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  First, the Friends


           25              of the Scranton Knights are planning their






            1              annual night at the races on Saturday,


            2              April 19, 2008, at Holy Rosary Center the


            3              corner of West Market Street and Wayne


            4              Avenue, Scranton, from 7 to 11 p.m. Tickets


            5              are $10.


            6                      Also, you are cordially invited to


            7              the Scranton Special Olympic Cocktail Party


            8              this Friday, April 11, 2008, from 7:00 p.m.


            9              to 10:00 p.m. at Holy Rosary Center, West


           10              Market Street and donations will be $35 per


           11              person, food and beverages are provided by


           12              Stirna's Restaurant.


           13                      Saint's Peter and Paul Parish, 1309


           14              West Locust Street in Scranton is sponsoring


           15              a craft fair on April 1, Saturday, from 9


           16              a.m. to 3 p.m. in the church hall and


           17              refreshments will be available.


           18                      Also, WNEP and the Scranton


           19              Firefighters Local 60 Auxiliary are teaming


           20              up to raise money for Oprah's Big Give in


           21              Northeastern, Pennsylvania.  All of the


           22              money raised will go towards purchasing


           23              smoke alarms for "WNEP's Operation Save A


           24              Life free smoke alarm program," and so on


           25              April 12, this Saturday, the Scranton






            1              Firefighters' auxiliary will be hosting a


            2              firehouse chili contest at the Scranton


            3              Cultural Center from 5 to 8 p.m. I hope to


            4              see you will of you there, and please


            5              remember, money raised will stay in the


            6              city.  They hope to raise a total of $15,000


            7              in order to provide 5,000 smoke detectors to


            8              residents of Scranton.


            9                      And, finally, I ask your prayers for


           10              a very dear, sweet gentleman who passed away


           11              several days ago, Mr. Ferdinand Peters and


           12              his family and friends that he leaves


           13              behind.  Thank you.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: I'll do mine in


           15              motions.  Anyone else?


           16                      MS. FANUCCI: I certainly have


           17              something.  Today is a very special day, it


           18              is our president's birthday and I believe --


           19              how old would that be again, Mr. McGoff?  I


           20              think you should be proud it is very big


           21              birthday.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: It has a zero at the


           23              end.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: I certainly want to


           25              wish you a very happy birthday and enjoy






            1              yourself because you never know what could


            2              happen on your birthday, right?  You never


            3              know, it actually could be just a fun night.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.


            5                      MS. EVANS: Happy birthday.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  With that, we'll move


            7              to citizens' participation.  Doug Miller.


            8                      MR. MILLER:  Good evening, Council.


            9              Doug Miller, president of the Junior City


           10              Council.  I, too, would like to wish


           11              Mr. McGoff a happy birthday.  He said with a


           12              zero on the end so he must have turned 20


           13              today.  On Friday, April 4, the Scranton


           14              Junior City Council sponsored a charity


           15              basketball game between the Scranton Police


           16              Department and the Scranton Fire Department.


           17              Admission was $3.00 and all of the proceeds


           18              will benefit a police and firefighters'


           19              memorial.  On behalf of Junior Council, I


           20              would like to thank the Scranton School


           21              District for allowing us to hold the game at


           22              Scranton high school.  The game attracted


           23              approximately 300 people and I am pleased to


           24              announce that our event raised $2,340.00.


           25              Of course, this could not have been possible






            1              without the support and assistance from many


            2              businesses and volunteers and I would like


            3              to again thank Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Gatelli


            4              for helping us put this event together.


            5                      On behalf of Junior Council I would


            6              like to thank the following contributors for


            7              their generosity:  Dave Febo, uniforms for


            8              All Sports.  Royal Pizza, Alfredo's Pizza,


            9              Good Fellows, Granteed's Pizza, Domino's,


           10              Aroma Cafe, Cafe Classico, Mr. Z's


           11              Supermarket, Crystal Beverage, Beer City


           12              Beverage, Studio RD, Linda Lee, Perfections,


           13              Gianna's, McGoin's Floral, Billy's Cafe,


           14              Heil's, the Radisson, Mrs. Daniel King, Mrs.


           15              Jennifer Herman, and Mr. Jack Lions.


           16                      I would also like to take this time


           17              to thank my mother and aunt for putting time


           18              aside to assist Junior Council in organizing


           19              our concession stand.  Their hard work and


           20              effort made our concession stand successful.


           21              We also appreciate the assistance from all


           22              of the volunteers who have sold raffle


           23              tickets and collected ticket money at the


           24              door including Mrs. Gatelli.


           25                      On behalf of Junior Council I would






            1              like to extend a sincere thank you to


            2              Mrs. Linda Robeson and her family for their


            3              generous contribution towards this event.


            4              It was an honor to have the Robeson family


            5              in attendance.


            6                      And, finally, I must thank the


            7              police and firemen for their commitment to


            8              play in the game.  The teams were as


            9              follows:  For the Scranton Police Department


           10              Chief David Elliott, Carl Graziano, Joseph


           11              Lafferty, Jeff Vaughn, Joe Carney, Mike


           12              Schultz, James Pappas, Bruce Stevens, Robert


           13              McKeean, and Jill Foley.


           14                      For the Scranton Fire Department:


           15              Ryan Robeson, Paul Triano, Robert Gavern,


           16              Rich Sidnick, Dave Dolphin, Jack Gafferty,


           17              Rick Roach, Shawn Eckenrode, Brian Murray,


           18              Mike Norieka, Tom Patterson, Tom Irwin,


           19              Dugan Gallagher, Paul Mackrell, Dan


           20              Halovich, and Jim Yesalavich.  And in case


           21              anyone was wondering, the firemen won the


           22              game 63 to 50.


           23                      Junior Council is still accepting


           24              donations towards the police and


           25              firefighters' memorial and those donations






            1              can be sent to 340 North Washington Avenue,


            2              Scranton, PA, 18503.  And I would once again


            3              like to thank everyone for making Hero's


            4              Night, truly a night to remember.  Thank


            5              you.


            6                      MS. EVANS: And, Doug, you did a


            7              wonderful job, someone should be recognizing


            8              you, too, for all you did and your


            9              colleagues on Junior City Council you are


           10              all certainly to be commended, it was a


           11              wonderful turn out and I think everyone who


           12              attended enjoyed themselves immensely.


           13                      MR. MILLER: Absolutely.  Thank you.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Congratulations, Doug.


           15              Thank you.  Jim Williams.


           16                      MR. WILLIAMS: My name is Jim


           17              Williams, I'm a resident of the City of


           18              Scranton, a property owner and a taxpayer


           19              and I'm here again for the last time.  I


           20              came last week, I'm here, I hope none of you


           21              missed me too bad, but I won't be bad, but


           22              if I can approach I have a paper I'd like to


           23              give you, can I do that?


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Please.


           25                      MR. WILLIAMS: I have one for






            1              Attorney Minora, this is for you only


            2              though.  They are different than the others.


            3              This is a document that was faxed to me from


            4              someone, I had just asked -- I said that


            5              this story was floating around, is it true,


            6              and what you see in front of you is a faxed


            7              transmittal from the Single Tax Office, it's


            8              a cover sheet and the second sheet is stubs


            9              from the checkbook known to these people in


           10              the tax office as the Single Tax Account and


           11              you will see that check number 1154 is to a


           12              person for a rebate -- in July 2006 for a


           13              rebate from 2005 for their occupational tax,


           14              occ tax.  I blacked it out, the reason I


           15              blocked it out it shows that person's last


           16              night and under that name it shows their


           17              social security number for which Attorney


           18              Minora now has and can see that it's valid.


           19              It's an official statement.  This is not


           20              something I made up or someone else made up.


           21              The second tax -- the second check in it's


           22              sequence is 1155 for the same reason, 2005


           23              tax that was paid, occ tax which was


           24              refunded on July 7, 2006.  It says C-10 and


           25              S-5 which is "C" city was refunded $10 from






            1              the city and $5 from the school board, same


            2              as the previous one.  Check 1156 on the


            3              other hand is dated July 13, 2006, to the


            4              Stadium Club in the amount of $511.71.  The


            5              other two are for $15 each.  This was a


            6              retirement party for the Chief Clerk and


            7              Mr. McDowell at that party stood up and said


            8              that he would pay the bar bill and the bar


            9              bill was $511 71 which was paid by us and


           10              you, the taxpayers.  I.


           11                      Was here last week for this


           12              particular reason, I didn't show this stuff,


           13              I probably should have, it doesn't much


           14              matter, the Single Tax Office was a warrant


           15              was served on them today by the FBI.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Williams, I'm going


           17              to stop you for a moment.  Number one, I'm


           18              not sure that what you are presenting to us


           19              is information that should be disclosed.


           20                      MR. WILLIAMS: Well, there's 12


           21              million dollars of our money in a bank


           22              account somewhere --


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, I'm saying --


           24                      MR. WILLIAMS: So that shouldn't have


           25              been disclosed apparently either,






            1              Mr. President.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.


            3                      MR. WILLIAMS: If this shouldn't be


            4              then I plead guilty.  I have it, I dispersed


            5              it, I gave it to the Times this afternoon,


            6              also so the Scranton Times has it.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  The question is you


            8              are dealing with other people's social


            9              security numbers.


           10                      MR. WILLIAMS: And I scratched them


           11              out.  The only one that's given privy to


           12              that was Attorney Minora who is not going to


           13              tell a soul.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: So how are you getting


           15              it?  How are you getting it?


           16                      MR. WILLIAMS: I scratched them out,


           17              I don't want them.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI: How are getting the


           19              information is the scary part.


           20                      MR. WILLIAMS: I got it from a person


           21              from the Single Tax Office who faxed me.


           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Did you get this


           23              recently?  Can you tell me when you got


           24              this?


           25                      MR. WILLIAMS: Pardon me?






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Can you tell me


            2              when you got this?


            3                      MR. WILLIAMS:  Yes, it's stamped on


            4              top, it's on the fax.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You just got this


            6              now, March 27?


            7                      MR. WILLIAMS: March 27, this year.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Attorney Minora, is


            9              this something that we should be cautious


           10              about?


           11                      MR. MINORA: Mr. Williams, here is


           12              what I see as -- you know, I'm glad this is


           13              out if it's a problem, it ought to be


           14              investigated and ought to be investigated


           15              properly, but here is what I see is the


           16              problem, you placed in my hands confidential


           17              information, you know what I'm going to do


           18              this, I'm not going to do anything with it.


           19              I'm going to probably throw it away because


           20              I shouldn't have it.


           21                      MR. WILLIAMS: That's fine.


           22                      MR. MINORA: There are other people's


           23              social security -- listen --


           24                      MR. WILLIAMS: I understand.  I


           25              understand.  Okay.






            1                      MR. MINORA: I shouldn't have this


            2              confidential information.  This confidential


            3              information should go to an investigative


            4              authority because every police investigation


            5              or District Attorney investigation has a


            6              confidentiality attached to it.  It's not a


            7              public record.  Giving this to this body


            8              produces a public record of someone's social


            9              security number.  I don't know what these --


           10              stop for a minute, let me finish what I'm


           11              trying to say, I don't know whether they


           12              rebates or taxes are correct, incorrect,


           13              whether they were due, not due, whether they


           14              were a kickback, not a kickback, but I know


           15              this, I shouldn't have these social security


           16              numbers.


           17                      THE WITNESS: Okay.


           18                      MR. MINORA:  What ought to happen is


           19              that these ought to be turned over to some


           20              police authority and if something happens


           21              with the Single Tax Office I think you ought


           22              to go down to the FBI and drop this off.


           23                      MR. WILLIAMS: I believe the FBI has


           24              it today.


           25                      MR. MINORA:  They have the






            1              confidentiality to these numbers.  These


            2              social security numbers should not be made


            3              public.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


            5                      MR. WILLIAMS: Attorney Minora, I


            6              think I got your point.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI: Quite frankly, I'm a


            8              little --


            9                      MR. MINORA:  We are a body in which


           10              our records become public and these should


           11              not be part of our record, so I'm going to


           12              give it back to you.


           13                      MR. WILLIAMS:  Fine.  I'll be more


           14              than happy to take it.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Attorney Minora, my


           16              problem with it now is we are also dealing a


           17              with a new tax person and this just happened


           18              recently, so you tell me now that this is


           19              not another violation and I'm a little


           20              concerned about a new investigation now


           21              taking place and how someone else is getting


           22              records out of our Single Tax Office faxed


           23              to them with other people's information on


           24              it.  So, to me this goes way beyond --


           25                      MR. MINORA: I don't disagree.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI: -- way beyond what is


            2              going on from the past, this is absolutely


            3              current as of today and that makes me -- it


            4              actually makes me frightened.  We are


            5              dealing with the taxpayers money and still


            6              it's going on as we speak to faxing other


            7              people's information to you which --


            8                      MR. WILLIAMS: That's my point --


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: -- at this point can I


           10              call them and get your information or you


           11              can you just call and maybe I'll call and


           12              see what Bill is doing?  I mean, it makes


           13              me -- it really makes me uneasy, I'm not


           14              comfortable with this, I'd rather not


           15              discuss anything more about it and as far as


           16              the Tax Office is concerned let's let the


           17              investigation take place, but I believe that


           18              this is something that warrants to go into


           19              whatever is going on in the investigation as


           20              currently.


           21                      THE WITNESS: I think if council asks


           22              for what I got they'd have got it already,


           23              too.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Quite frankly, I am not


           25              privy to other people's information.






            1                      MR. WILLIAMS: Quite frankly, I don't


            2              think you care about the 12 million dollars.


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Mr. Williams, how you


            4              are privy to this information?


            5                      MR. WILLIAMS: You know what, ladies


            6              and gentlemen of council, I didn't come here


            7              to argue with you as other people do.  I


            8              came here to state my case over my


            9              $12 million.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  That's right.


           11                      MR. WILLIAMS: Apparently, I'm as


           12              guilty as the guy who left it there.  Well,


           13              you know what, I surrender.  I surrender.


           14              There is an officer there.  Lock me up.  If


           15              you would like to give them back and not


           16              having nothing to do with the $12 million or


           17              the Tax Office, that's fine with me.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, Mr. Williams


           19                      THE WITNESS: I'll take them and


           20              leave.


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: You are certainly not


           22              accurate on any of your statements right


           23              now.


           24                      MR. WILLIAMS:  That's not five


           25              minutes, you took up for five minutes than I






            1              did.  You know what, I'm not going to miss


            2              not ever coming back here.  I'm not going to


            3              miss it.  To you I wish all of the luck in


            4              the world and you know what, if you get any


            5              money back pay the ten million.  Shame on


            6              all of you.


            7                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Williams.


            8                      MR. WILLIAMS: Not on all of yo, but


            9              a few of you, shame on you.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, you are out


           11              of order.


           12                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Williams, I just --


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Please --


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Well, I just wanted to


           15              add I think perhaps he came here --


           16                      MR. WILLIAMS: I'm sorry.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Ms. Evans, Mrs. Evans,


           18              can you address it during motions?


           19                      MS. EVANS: No, I prefer to do it


           20              now.  Others did and intend to.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: His time is up and --


           22                      MS. EVANS: His time is over, but I'm


           23              using my time.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: We agreed to do this --


           25                      MS. EVANS: I didn't agree to






            1              anything, Mr. McGoff, because every other


            2              council member does it, and now I'm


            3              exercising my right.  Mr. Williams, I can


            4              understand --


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Please.


            6                      MS. EVANS: -- you are coming to


            7              council because you were looking for an


            8              investigation.


            9                      MR. WILLIAMS: Yes.


           10                      MS. EVANS: As I was looking for an


           11              investigation.  I felt from the beginning


           12              and council asked the district attorney to


           13              provide an investigation of that office, he


           14              responded that he felt, and I'm not using


           15              his exact words, I don't have them before


           16              me, so I'm not quoting them, but he felt it


           17              was not necessary and he would just, if you


           18              will, oversee an audit, and I know I was not


           19              satisfied with that response so much so that


           20              I had written a letter to him as a private


           21              citizen and a single council person pursuing


           22              the investigation, so I was very pleased to


           23              hear today that the FBI has stepped into


           24              this situation, but I do think now that the


           25              FBI is involved council doesn't need -- I






            1              don't think we need to oversee the FBI


            2              investigation.


            3                      MR. WILLIAMS:  Surely not.


            4                      MS. EVANS: And I what they are going


            5              to do and I would advise you, I thank you


            6              for providing this, but I really would


            7              advise you to turn that over to the FBI and


            8              let them handle everything from this point


            9              on and, you know, as I said I think we


           10              should all be very grateful that however


           11              they got here they got here quickly and they


           12              are responding to something far more quickly


           13              than our District Attorney's Office seemed


           14              to.


           15                      MR. WILLIAMS: I agree 100 percent.


           16                      MS. EVANS:  And, you know, where he


           17              didn't see any problems evidently there is


           18              some sort of problems.


           19                      MR. WILLIAMS:  The only thing that


           20              disappoints me about the FBI --


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Your time is up, Mr.


           22              Williams.


           23                      MR. WILLIAMS: -- didn't get here


           24              ahead of them.  You should have got there


           25              ahead of them.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Evans, these were


            2              the rules that you agreed to as well.


            3                      MS. EVANS: And everyone agreed to


            4              the rules and everyone is responding to


            5              individuals, as are you.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm just saying --


            7                      MS. EVANS: And so I'm just saying,


            8              too, yes, I understand your point and I'm


            9              sure as an intelligent man you understand


           10              mine and I think we can all agree that when


           11              a situation arises that it is the right and


           12              responsibility of every elected official to


           13              respond if they so chose.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Lee Morgan.


           15                      MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.


           16              I guess we have our problems here with


           17              corruption, don't we?  I'm not going to


           18              single out Judge Harhut or Judge Corbett


           19              either.  You know, I got -- I have got here


           20              a public access channel proposal from


           21              Electric City Television and I'd just like


           22              to say that, you know, when you look at this


           23              whole thing they are saying that they are


           24              not going to start transmitting until they


           25              receive their phase one Funds, are those






            1              phase one funds going to have to be voted on


            2              by this council?


            3                      MS. EVANS: I don't know.


            4                      MR. MORGAN: Well, I think that this


            5              just shouldn't happen.  I don't think


            6              Channel 61 should change operators and I


            7              think it's time for this council to stand up


            8              and make it clear to everyone in government,


            9              including the mayor, may I add, that this


           10              isn't the right thing to do.  This is all


           11              political, that's my opinion.  Channel 61


           12              ran with no money for years and years.


           13              Mr. Connors is the one I think that gave


           14              them the contract.  They ran the station


           15              really top shelf, no political shenanigan


           16              going on, covered everything, and I just in


           17              my opinion think this is political on the


           18              mayor's part.  I really think that, and I


           19              really think this council has an obligation


           20              to make sure that it doesn't vote to give


           21              this channel any money.  The way the


           22              proposal was presented in the newspaper, the


           23              time frame that was given for proposals, and


           24              as you know I'm on the board of directors of


           25              one of the grounds that filed the proposal,






            1              and I just think that it's very


            2              questionable, some of the people that were


            3              on that board, you know, I don't want to


            4              take up all of my time because I want to say


            5              a couple of other things.  I don't have to


            6              time to get back to the things I asked last


            7              week, but the one thing I would like to say


            8              here from this podium is that I'm hoping


            9              that Doug Miller will hold a special


           10              election for Junior Council before he leaves


           11              office and graduates from high school and we


           12              need to reinvigorate Junior Council, we need


           13              that table filled.  These are our future


           14              leaders and, boy, do we really need them.


           15              As you can see, the shenanigans that are


           16              taking place here in the city and county


           17              government, we need young people to know the


           18              things that every day Scrantonians and


           19              residents of Lackawanna County face.  The


           20              Scranton Housing Authority, we had problems


           21              there, now we have problems here.  We have


           22              the city losing it's bond rating.  I mean,


           23              we have just got to see where this city


           24              actually is and we have got to have trained


           25              young Scrantonians ready to step into the






            1              void when the time comes.


            2                      And the other thing I would like to


            3              say is, you know, I really appreciate what


            4              the Scranton School District did with the


            5              new medical college and I hope that every


            6              elected official whether it be Senator


            7              Casey, this council, the school board, the


            8              mayor, Mr. Mellow, I think that this medical


            9              school needs to move much quicker in


           10              acquiring property and building buildings


           11              and infrastructure and starting to meet the


           12              needs of this community and I hope that


           13              everybody in politics or government on


           14              various levels would support that.  Thank


           15              you.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Morgan.


           17              Giovanni Piccolino.


           18                      MR. PICCOLINO:  Good evening, City


           19              Council, Giovanni Piccolino, resident and


           20              taxpayer.  Mr. McGoff, before you call


           21              Mr. Moran up next he had me sign him in and


           22              he is unable to attend this evening, for


           23              Coney Island, he just wanted to thank the


           24              police and the firefighters for such a quick


           25              response to his arson fire, but due to legal






            1              reasons I guess he couldn't show up.


            2                      I wanted to ask you Mr. McGoff or


            3              city council, what could we do or I could do


            4              like to help fix up the basketball courts


            5              around the city?  I do see Mr. McGoff, I saw


            6              you down at Hoop City or the river front,


            7              you know, the warm weather and everything is


            8              coming up and a lot of people go up to


            9              Clarks Summit, Peckville, West Pittston, you


           10              know, the courts up there are nice, it's a


           11              nice lake area to play at, but, you know, we


           12              should keep the people that live here


           13              downtown is there anything we could do that


           14              spruce them up?


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: That I don't know.  I


           16              certainly would ask parks and recreation if


           17              there are any plans to anything to refurbish


           18              the city courts.  I know my son was going


           19              back to the Minooka-Barrett playground this


           20              evening.


           21                      MR. PICCOLINO:  Yeah, I mean, I have


           22              lived back there.  Minooka really isn't, you


           23              know, doesn't make you want to stay there


           24              all day, you know what I mean?  I don't


           25              know, can use a little sprucing I guess.






            1                   Secondly, I would just like to say that


            2              Gryzbowski Trains and Gianetti who were in


            3              the city for and good loyal customer of


            4              ours, thank you for all of the business and


            5              we are kind of sad to see them leave.  You


            6              know, just hurts for some strange reasons,


            7              you know, the sidewalks and stuff in front


            8              of them and, you know, they packed up and


            9              left for other areas and it's just


           10              unfortunate and I just want to thank them


           11              for their loyal service to all of the


           12              customers over the years, and that's it.


           13              Thank you.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           15              Mr. Piccolino.  Andy Sbaraglia.


           16                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia.


           17              Citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians,


           18              your 7-A, lending the $250,000 to a project


           19              that we just forgave $200,000 to.  You and I


           20              both know that that's a subordinate and it's


           21              subordinate to quite a few million dollars.


           22              There is no way in heck that them people


           23              walk away we are going to get anything back


           24              out of that $250,000.  The 5 percent is fine


           25              if it was, in fact, that this project






            1              already failed once and now a new team comes


            2              up and chances they are doing the same thing


            3              the other team did and there is little or no


            4              chance it's going to succeed.  If the other


            5              team couldn't do it why should this team do


            6              it.  I don't know what the building was sold


            7              for.  I know what the lien is, but I don't


            8              know how much capital -- I don't know


            9              anything about this deal other than the fact


           10              that is the first people that were in there


           11              failed and we had to forgive their loan.


           12                   Now, I don't know anything about the


           13              second team if they are better, worse or


           14              whatever, but I wish these people would


           15              really investigate it and make sure that we


           16              have some reasonable, this is -- a


           17              reasonable chance to get our loan back, but


           18              that's up to you people, not me.


           19                      Okay, let's go with 7-A, again, we


           20              are selling our delinquent '07, this is just


           21              eight, when is it -- I think somewhere in


           22              October, let's see, January, February,


           23              March, April, they will fall probably


           24              delinquent, and you are going to penalize


           25              them and how much people more are going to






            1              come before you and they should actually


            2              point names who voted for this thing.  They


            3              should name the name and said, whoever votes


            4              for this thing they should say, "You are the


            5              one that cost me this extra money," that's


            6              it.  You are the one.  Normally there would


            7              have been a -- I tried to get it split, I


            8              really did.  I would try to differentiate


            9              the tax from the school, but, unfortunately,


           10              it was still made it down there I guess in


           11              Harrisburg, I hope our new legislator or


           12              whoever he is will push it, I certainly hope


           13              so.  I don't know where to goes with you


           14              people.


           15                      You know, of course, we had a BBB


           16              minus rating and now we got a negative -- we


           17              don't have any rating, let's put it this


           18              way.  We are even below junk.  We got money


           19              coming in from the sale of the delinquent


           20              $1.8 million, now where is the SRA going to


           21              come up with $1.8 million?  Or if they are


           22              going to come up with 1.8 million because


           23              your legislation says it maybe up to.  It


           24              says up to, so it's not necessarily they may


           25              get everything for $1,000, who knows.  You






            1              don't know what is going on.  Thank God the


            2              FBI is finally coming in here, I hope they


            3              go through the whole city government,


            4              really, I wish that.  Finally, we will get a


            5              -- know what happened.  This man took -- I


            6              can't even tell you how any things that they


            7              really done to the city with his loans.  He


            8              borrowed and borrowed and borrowed.  Now you


            9              are going to have another $10 million loans,


           10              chances are we are not going to see much


           11              progress with that ten million and make sure


           12              probably 20 million they got to borrow again


           13              and you got a one-track all you people and


           14              I'm just glad finally is somebody coming in


           15              and examining everything that's going on


           16              within this city.  That's the best way we


           17              got it to finally coming out and say this is


           18              right, that's wrong, and, like I say, it's


           19              bad.


           20                      Like I said from the very beginning


           21              way back when you sold the golf course, sold


           22              the South Side complex, sold the DPW site,


           23              sold our good loans, now we are selling our


           24              delinquent tax loans, what else has he got


           25              to sell, our very hearts, that's the only






            1              thing left in this city that he can sell and


            2              he can't constantly borrow.  Yeah, I guess


            3              he could if you keep voting for it, I guess


            4              he could until they finally get somebody in


            5              here from either the state, the Attorney


            6              General or somebody get up here and finally


            7              say, you can't do this, you really can't do


            8              this because if people can't afford to pay,


            9              bad enough now they are going to be losing


           10              their homes.  They can't afford it.  We are


           11              in a recession and you keep pushing more and


           12              more burden upon the people.  I thank you.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


           14              Mr. Sbaraglia.  Ozzie Quinn.


           15                      MR. QUINN: Ozzie Quinn, president of


           16              the Taxpayers' Association.  Good evening.


           17              First of all, Mrs. Gatelli, last week you


           18              took argument with the fact that people are


           19              coming here and complaining about the taxes


           20              for the school district is paying much


           21              higher taxes, well, I have to take argument


           22              with that myself, because myself and Marie


           23              Schumacher we visit the school district,


           24              school board meetings almost every time


           25              there is something on there regarding taxes,






            1              okay, and we have argued, and as a matter of


            2              fact, we even filed amicus curia with the


            3              Court to try them from floating the


            4              $11 million bond issue for that new school,


            5              so it's not that people aren't trying to


            6              address all of the groups, we are.


            7                      Okay, I had gentleman contact me


            8              over the weekend, I don't know if he


            9              contacted anybody else, this guy come under


           10              a lot of trouble, he was a businessman, he


           11              was a middle management and making $40,000,


           12              his wife passed away from cancer.


           13              Subsequently, he stepped on some type of a


           14              metal thing, he lost his leg, he is in a


           15              wheelchair.  He owes two years in back


           16              taxes, $105 on one year and $450 on the


           17              other for a total of $558 which was trying


           18              to pay it partially with the NCC.  He got a


           19              bill for $2,000 because he is two years


           20              delinquent and he don't know what to do.


           21                   Mr. McGoff, Mrs. Gatelli, Mrs. Fanucci,


           22              you passed that bill, what can he do?


           23                      MS. GATELLI: Tell him to call me


           24              tomorrow and I'll see what I can do.


           25                      MR. QUINN:  Tell him to call you






            1              tomorrow, huh?  I sure will.


            2                      MS. GATELLI:  Thank you.


            3                      MR. QUINN:  Thank you.  I visited --


            4              I went to the SHA, the Scranton Housing


            5              Authority Board meeting last night and I


            6              learned that Park Gardens, the title is in


            7              the city's name.  In February I approached


            8              this council asking them to talk to the


            9              Scranton Housing Authority about selling the


           10              Park Gardens because it's in pretty bad


           11              shape maintenance wise and to a private


           12              seller so we could get the purchase price


           13              and also continuity perpetuity of writs or


           14              taxes every year from the new developer or


           15              if the association was formed and taking


           16              over, whatever, okay?  Now that it's in the


           17              city's name I think something should be done


           18              with this property, okay?  I really think so


           19              because of the fact that, you know, there


           20              has been an audit done and we have paid --


           21              they found out there was misappropriation of


           22              $300,000 in Park Gardens and that finding,


           23              okay, now it means that it has to be repaid


           24              back to the federal government.  Now, who


           25              pays that?  Right here.  They don't have the






            1              money to pay that back.  They can't pay it


            2              back the federal monies, we are going to be


            3              strapped paying that bill of $300,000 in


            4              that audit.  I ask you to look into it.


            5              Finance chair?


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.


            7                      MR. QUINN:  Would you look into that


            8              for me and see who is going to be paying


            9              that $300,000, is it the taxpayers?


           10                      MS. GATELLI: From what I understood,


           11              Ozzie, it was paid back.


           12                      MR. QUINN:  It was a


           13              misappropriation.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, but it was paid


           15              back from a different account, I'll find


           16              out.


           17                      MR. QUINN:  What account was it paid


           18              back from?


           19                      MS. GATELLI: I don't know, but I


           20              will find out.


           21                      MR. QUINN:  Okay, thank you very


           22              much.


           23                      MS. GATELLI:  I will find out and


           24              also we did send a letter to them asking


           25              about Park Gardens.






            1                      MR. QUINN:  Last night they told me


            2              they haven't received anything from them.


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  They didn't.  I'm sure


            4              we sent a letter.


            5                      MR. QUINN: The other thing is this


            6              here on I guess it's 5-I on hiring a


            7              solicitor for the Human Relation's


            8              Commission.  I have never seen a report at


            9              the beginning of the council meetings in


           10              five, under number five, introduction of


           11              resolutions, commissions and etcetera,


           12              reports, from the Human Relations


           13              Commission.  Is this a commission on paper?


           14              Are we --


           15                      MS. GATELLI: Could you repeat that?


           16                      MR. QUINN:  This Human Relations


           17              Commission do they actually handle cases?  I


           18              never see you people approve approving or


           19              any reports coming from the Human Relations


           20              Commission yet we are going to hire an


           21              attorney.  I figure it's one of Doherty's


           22              cronies that must be complaining that he


           23              never got hired.  Would you check on that,


           24              please, because are you supposed to be


           25              getting reports on this?  I guess you are






            1              under number five all commission reports?


            2              Let's stop this nonsense, will you, please.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you Mr. Quinn.


            4              Les Spindler.


            5                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council,


            6              Les Spindler.  I don't know if council


            7              remembers but two weeks ago I was here and I


            8              said we don't need an audit of the single


            9              tax office we need a FBI investigation.  I


           10              guess somebody was listening because today


           11              they God raided.  I guess the FBI answered


           12              my prayers and maybe some of these crooked


           13              elected officials will be spending a few


           14              years in federal prison.


           15                      Saturday as I was out a woman


           16              approached me, she said her and her family


           17              lived at the Village at Tripp Park.  She had


           18              all kinds of complaints, they can't get


           19              stuff done there, she called the police once


           20              because people were speeding up and down the


           21              street, the police would not come because


           22              the city has yet to take it over.  They will


           23              only come there for emergencies.  Does


           24              council know, is this, the punch list that


           25              was made up, is that ever going to be






            1              finished?  Is that everything -- this Mr.


            2              Spiker, it's seven years now, is this thing


            3              ever going to get finished?  This is


            4              ridiculous.


            5                      MS. GATELLI: Would you like an


            6              answer, Mr. Spindler?


            7                      MR. SPINDLER:  Yes.


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  I just found out today


            9              that we do have now a city engineer, so I'm


           10              sure we will be contacting him to find out


           11              about Tripp's Park.


           12                      MR. SPINDLER: Is there something


           13              that could be done to put pressure on this


           14              man?


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  I know that Mr. Brazil


           16              was plowing the streets there and I did ask


           17              him to plow some of the streets there


           18              because people were calling me, it was a


           19              safety issue, and Speicher was not doing


           20              that, so he did do some plowing and he was


           21              keeping track of the time and the rates, so


           22              we could recoup that from Mr. Speicher.


           23                      MR. SPINDLER:but for this to take


           24              seven years --


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Mr. Speicher has also






            1              sued city council and the City of Scranton.


            2                      MR. SPINDLER: What?


            3                      MS. GATELLI:  So, we are in a


            4              lawsuit presently with Mr. Speicher.


            5                      MR. SPINDLER: He is the one that's


            6              not keeping up with his obligation.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: Well --


            8                      MR. SPINDLER: If I was living there


            9              I would sue.


           10                      MS. GATELLI: Well, we are being


           11              sued, so I'm not going to say too much.


           12                      MR. SPINDLER:  He should be sued.


           13              If I was living there I would be sue.


           14                      MS. GATELLI: I'm not going to say


           15              too much.


           16                      MR. SPINDLER: I'd be suing him.


           17                      MS. GATELLI: And if you would like I


           18              can talk to you after the meeting.


           19                      MR. SPINDLER: Okay, thank you.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  You are welcome.


           21                      MR. SPINDLER: Next thing, we are


           22              supposed to be a distressed city, we have


           23              KOZ's all over, and we give away land for


           24              next to nothing and yet one night last week


           25              at the mayor's house they raised a quarter






            1              of a million dollars, it's amazing.  We are


            2              giving away all of this land and everything


            3              else for nothing and look at all the money


            4              we have in this city, a quarter of a million


            5              dollars raised in one night, unbelievable


            6              and we are giving away the stuff for


            7              nothing.


            8                      On that order, Mrs. Fanucci, were


            9              you at this fundraiser?


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Yes, I was.


           11                      MR. SPINDLER: Did you pay the


           12              $2,300?


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: I think that that's


           14              personal business.


           15                      MR. SPINDLER: I think that's the


           16              city's business.


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: I don't think it is


           18              city business.


           19                      MR. SPINDLER:  And if you went there


           20              for nothing --


           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Did you go to the bar


           22              last night?


           23                      MR. SPINDLER: Pardon me?


           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Did you buy yourself


           25              drinks?  I mean what does that mean.






            1                      MR. SPINDLER: If you went there for


            2              nothing that shows that you will be voting


            3              for whatever the mayor wants you to do.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Excuse me?  Wow.


            5              That's grasping at straws, Les.  I'll tell


            6              your right now you are groping.


            7                      MR. SPINDLER: Mr. Courtright, were


            8              you at the party?


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No, I wasn't.


           10                      THE COURT:  Were you, Mr. McGoff?


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes, I was.


           12                      MR. SPINDLER: Did you pay the


           13              $2,300?


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: That's absolutely none


           15              of your business.


           16                      MR. SPINDLER: I think it is.  I


           17              think it is.  I guess the answer is, no,


           18              because -- Mrs. Gatelli, did you attend?


           19                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, and I have been at


           20              the Clinton's affairs since Bill Clinton


           21              first ran for office because I'm friends


           22              with Jamie Brazil, I have been to the Brazil


           23              house, the Rodham brothers have been to my


           24              home, so I wasn't there because of Mayor


           25              Doherty.






            1                      MR. SPINDLER: Oh.  Mrs. Evans, were


            2              you there?


            3                      MS. GATELLI: And, no, I did not pay.


            4                      MR. SPINDLER: Mrs. Evans, were you


            5              there?


            6                      MS. EVANS: No.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: Were you invited?


            8                      MR. SPINDLER: Just goes to prove


            9              what I have said all along, you three people


           10              do whatever Geppetto Doherty wants them to


           11              do.


           12                      Last thing, Mrs. Evans, that hole I


           13              told you about last week on the 200 of


           14              Franklin still wasn't fixed and it's getting


           15              worse.  I mean, it's -- like I said, you can


           16              see right down into it.  I see people go by


           17              there and they have missed it, but if


           18              somebody ever hits that, like I said, that


           19              ground it's sinking in, you can see down


           20              into the ground.  It's a real safety hazard.


           21              That's all I have.  Thank you.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.


           23              Sam Patilla?


           24                      MR. PATILLA:  Sam Patilla, Scranton


           25              resident, member of the Scranton Lackawanna






            1              County Taxpayer's Association.  Good


            2              evening, Mrs. Evans and Mr. Courtright.


            3              First, I would like to go into the feds


            4              raiding the Single Tax Office and the


            5              housing director under -- currently under a


            6              federal indictment.  That's just the tip of


            7              the iceberg, there is more to come.


            8                   Secondly, Mr. Courtright,


            9              hypothetically, okay, this 12.2 million


           10              dollars, let's just suppose that somebody


           11              made a tax payment and it wasn't recorded


           12              and their property was condemned and/or


           13              sold, who would be on the hook for that?


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't really know.


           15              My guess would be maybe the tax office, but


           16              you can refer to Mr. Minora for that one.


           17                      MR. PATILLA: Not in his lifetime.


           18              Secondly, Ms. Evans actually a while ago the


           19              cost per up to the current date on the


           20              Gatelli lawsuit because I as a taxpayer


           21              paying for that would like to know because


           22              when all is said and done I will be filing a


           23              lawsuit to recoup my monies from her if see


           24              wins or losses.


           25                      Thirdly, in relations to the 5-J,






            1              the sale of the 2007 tax claim and the 2008


            2              anticipated claims, is this just another way


            3              to farm taxpayers to NCC?  I have asked


            4              Ozzie, I've asked Andy, I've asked a couple


            5              of other people where the redevelopment


            6              authority gets their funding.  Where are


            7              they going to get the money to pay for these


            8              tax claims?  You know, if they are funded by


            9              OECD or if they're funded -- that's taxpayer


           10              money, whatever you go it's taxpayer money


           11              and it's my thinking from the way it was


           12              explained to me is that the city just


           13              couldn't find a lender, nobody could lend


           14              the city any money, so it's another -- in


           15              the realm to get our money, from my money to


           16              NCC and then they do whatever they can do


           17              upon them.  The kickbacks or whatever the


           18              case may be.


           19                      Thirdly, you all need to on 7-A, I'm


           20              totally against giving any business any type


           21              of loan.  We are a distressed city.  We


           22              don't have money to loan anybody especially


           23              ones that we forgive their loans to, we


           24              forgive their debts and we turn around the


           25              projects, the same projects we turn around






            1              and funnel more money in there.  It just


            2              don't smell right.  You can't continue to


            3              give money where they are not paying taxes,


            4              the Raddison, the other my --my favorite


            5              Alexander's Spa and Salon, you know, you


            6              people aren't giving anything back to us,


            7              you are giving them all money and we don't


            8              have anything to show for it.  Enough is


            9              enough.  You take money from the emergency


           10              shelter, you take money from the First Time


           11              Homebuyer's Program and we are not getting


           12              anything of this, we are not going anything


           13              for this, you know, the only thing we have


           14              to show for and, thank God's it's the


           15              medical school, because the state is saying


           16              other agencies are behind that, because if


           17              the city was behind it we wouldn't be


           18              getting anything out of that.


           19                      You just take, take, take from us.


           20              I told you months ago that this country was


           21              in a recession.  Don't want to hear it from


           22              me, but now all the big wheels are finally


           23              agreeing.  This country is in a recession


           24              and in a recession you tighten your


           25              drawstrings.  You don't open up your purse






            1              strings and just give and let people come


            2              and take at will.  You cut back.  You make


            3              it easier on the people who have it the


            4              hardest, the taxpayers, we have it the


            5              hardest.  We don't have cushy jobs, we don't


            6              have families in higher places.  We have to


            7              scrimp and scrap for everything that we get.


            8              We have to pay our rent, we have to pay our


            9              mortgage, we have to pay electricity, we


           10              have to pay our phone bills, we have to pay


           11              to eat, we have to pay to cloth our


           12              children.  We can't continue to allow our


           13              bank accounts to be raped, pillaged and


           14              raped by public officials who don't care


           15              about us, who show us week in and week out.


           16              Enough is enough.  And like I stated before,


           17              you know, the feds is going into the Single


           18              Tax Office and the feds going to the Housing


           19              Authority that's just the beginning because


           20              they are other officers of this city that


           21              will be touched.  Good evening, Mrs. Evans.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.


           23              Jim Stucker.


           24                      MR. STUCKER: Mr. Courtright.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Hi, Jim.






            1                      MR. STUCKER: Up by the laundry, I


            2              clean for a guy, the city owns the property


            3              on that laundry mat up on Providence Square


            4              and there is lot of leaves, glass, bottles,


            5              cardboard, garbage all over, alongside that


            6              middle thing where they park the cars on


            7              both sides up that laundry mat.


            8                      In the back of it, back of the


            9              laundry there is a lot of garbage.  Somebody


           10              is going to go back there and set it on fire


           11              and we still want signs put up on Market


           12              Street.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Jim, I went up there


           14              Sunday.  The guy was sweeping the streets


           15              just like you said, Sunday morning.  There


           16              is one sign up there.


           17                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah, it says parking


           18              from the top to go down.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  They are allowed


           20              to.


           21                      MR. STUCKER: Where the laundry mat


           22              is, there is no -- you can't park there.


           23              There is going to be a wreck there on top of


           24              the hill.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay.






            1                      MR. STUCKER: Right on top of the


            2              hill there is right on top when you come


            3              down that hill.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay.


            5                      MR. STUCKER:  On Market.  Do you


            6              make that request for Pat up on Parrot


            7              Avenue when he talked to you Saturday?


            8                      MS. GATELLI: Pardon?  Yes, we did.


            9              Dartmouth and Parrot.


           10                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah, and the same


           11              place where Murphy's ar is that garbage is


           12              still down there.  There is bottles and


           13              everything, papers, bottles.  Right where


           14              the stadium is that "Y" in the road I can't


           15              name the street, I can't think of the name


           16              of the street, Vine.  Well, the red house


           17              sitting up in the back right by DeNaples'


           18              lot there is a red house there, a red brick


           19              house that everybody -- the guy has been


           20              breaking his windows and went in there and


           21              they are doing damage to the house, the lady


           22              next door called the cops about it.  On


           23              Lackawanna Avenue we got a lot of holes,


           24              lots.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Lots of holes.






            1                      MR. STUCKER: We got to get them


            2              repaired, all right, and I still need --


            3              everybody asked me about Mayor Doherty about


            4              the money, everybody that I go to in the


            5              bars, I go to East Street Bar and he said,


            6              "Oh, you get the money?"


            7                      I he said, "No."


            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I don't know what to


            9              tell you, Jim.  How much does he owe you,


           10              100 bucks?


           11                      MR. GATELLI: Fifty he said.


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You will take 50


           13              stuck?


           14                      MR. STUCKER: I don't care what he


           15              gives me, to be honest with you, 50, I don't


           16              care.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Jim, I'll tell you


           18              what --


           19                      MS. GATELLI: What kind of work did


           20              you do, Jim?


           21                      MR. STUCKER: I did the hedges from


           22              him.


           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You did the hedges


           24              and he didn't pay, okay.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: How many hedges?






            1                      MR. STUCKER: A lot in front of the


            2              house.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Will you take $25?


            4                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah.


            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I'm going to take a


            6              donation up, all right?  I'll try to get you


            7              25 bucks, how is that?  Is that fair?


            8                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You will be happy


           10              then?


           11                      MR. STUCKER: Yes.  I'm moving the


           12              next two weeks.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT: You are moving?


           14                      MR. STUCKER:  Yeah, on Adams Avenue.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I thought I won't


           16              have to pay you, you'd be gone.


           17                      MR. STUCKER: Two weeks I'll be


           18              moving onto Adams.


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  He is only moving to


           20              Adams Avenue, not to Dunmore.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I'm going to try to


           22              -- I'm going to take a donation up and I'll


           23              try to get you 25 bucks, how is that?


           24                      MR. STUCKER: Okay.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Don't cut the hedges






            1              anymore though.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thanks, Jim.


            3                      MR. STUCKER: Sorry, the garbage


            4              cans, a lot of the garbage picking up the


            5              garbage, what happens they are putting them


            6              out, they are not putting them in the yard


            7              or on the sidewalks what they are doing they


            8              are throwing them on the street.  Today I


            9              was out riding a bike and there is lot of


           10              them on the roads, garbage cans.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We'll contact DPW


           12              about that.


           13                      MR. STUCKER:  And, yeah, I just


           14              talked to a guy the other day they said they


           15              were coming through and going out and around


           16              like DPW that goes through and they go out


           17              the other end of the road there is going to


           18              be a wreck there.


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay.


           20                      MR. STUCKER:  DPW.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: DPW.


           22                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah.  I met a guy the


           23              other day in the bar and he told me about


           24              it.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Stucker.






            1              Phyllis.


            2                      MS. HUMPHRIES: I have such a list


            3              here, you are going to see it and you are


            4              going to see it.  Peace, Pacha, salaam


            5              aleikum, shalom, God bless those who bless


            6              you and God bless those who curse you.  I


            7              want to send my love to all of my military,


            8              all of my government officials, my police


            9              department, my EMT's, my fire department,


           10              God Bless them how they serve us.  We got


           11              the good, the bad and the ugly.  Just like


           12              every town, every country, my mission it to


           13              separate the sheep from the goat in a kind


           14              of way that nobody would truly like.  Over


           15              the years I observed many things.  I


           16              documented everything and I took pictures


           17              because this world has to change, the people


           18              are terrorized all over the world, but we


           19              are terrorized in our own towns.  Bombs are


           20              being dropped, kids are crying, kids are


           21              dying, starvation, water problems all over


           22              the world, but also in the City of Scranton.


           23              I come up against a lot of military men that


           24              are out on the street, but I know for a fact


           25              in some of these apartment complexes they






            1              discriminate against these people.  I would


            2              ask them to open up an investigation to


            3              these apartment complexes to see how many


            4              apartments are truly empty, that we in the


            5              City of Scranton could be a light to the


            6              world and to straighten out the good, the


            7              bad and the ugly.


            8                      I had -- my apartment has been


            9              pillaged, attacks upon me, everybody sits


           10              back, but truly why they are sitting back


           11              because there is going to be a day that


           12              everybody is going to stand up with me and


           13              they are going to expose the people of what


           14              they have done to me.  I love the City of


           15              Scranton and for how much I have been


           16              pillaged, attacked and discriminated and


           17              persecuted I am not leaving the City of


           18              Scranton.  I love Scranton, Pennsylvania.


           19                      I need a place where I could put a


           20              lot of documents and everything, so


           21              everybody could come here in every country.


           22              I am preparing right now, and it's going to


           23              be surprise visits to certain places, what's


           24              going to be the United Nations?  Nobody


           25              doesn't know about me.






            1                      At this point this is the second


            2              month I am in default of my rent.  Why?  I


            3              will tell you why, so this will be an


            4              example.  Every three years you are supposed


            5              to get your apartment painted, no painting.


            6              Water coming down my walls months before


            7              they put the repair.  Water logged cabinets,


            8              fungus in the bathroom, so guess what, I


            9              went and got myself a caulking gun, weapons


           10              of mass destruction.  I caulked my bathroom.


           11              I lock my doors and why the FBI and the


           12              police and I'm sure the City of Scranton are


           13              government officials are not going to stand


           14              back and watch everything that's happened to


           15              me.  I know there is going to be day that


           16              they are going to come together and we are


           17              going to straighten out the City of


           18              Scranton, the United States and nations.


           19                      My mission is for peace.  I went to


           20              hand the rosary, well, if you are not


           21              Catholic that's okay I'll give you a Bible,


           22              they said, no, we don't want anything from


           23              you.  They said like the Cohanes at Mulberry


           24              Tower and they point fingers at me when they


           25              really should be coming in here and fighting






            1              for what has to be done.  I don't think that


            2              I should see my military that are coming


            3              back here in body bags or disabled or that


            4              are committing suicide or they lose their


            5              families and they lose their homes, millions


            6              and billions and trillions of dollars are


            7              going to other countries I do want to see


            8              these children helped, but I think it's time


            9              President Bush, you got to cut -- we got to


           10              get our tax down, we got to get our bills


           11              down and we got to live like real human


           12              beings.  It's ashame.  No veteran, no


           13              elderly should have their homes taken away


           14              from them.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Phyllis.


           16                      MS. HUMPHRIES: So that's what I want


           17              and this is my mission.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           19                      MS. HUMPHRIES: And God bless


           20              everybody and I could hardly wait to see the


           21              Holy Father.  God Bless you, and I got one


           22              more picture.  This is --


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: No, later, Phyllis.


           24                      MS. HUMPHRIES:  This is floating


           25              around.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis?


            2                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Yes.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  We have to move on.


            4              Thank you.


            5                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Okay, I'm leaving,


            6              but I have something to give you.  This is


            7              floating around --


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Later on please.


            9                      MS. HUMPHRIES:  The two leading lady


           10              of the world --


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Phyllis --


           12                      MS. HUMPHRIES: Phyllis Humphries and


           13              Hillary Clinton, and we need a woman to run


           14              this country.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Fay Franus.


           16                      MS. FRANUS:  Fay Franus, Scranton.


           17              I would just like to address a couple of


           18              things.  Mrs. Gatelli, you have an


           19              opportunity to reopen the budget.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  I'm not answering,


           21              I'll address them later.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: She said she will


           23              address it during motions.


           24                      MS. FRANUS: You are answering for


           25              her again, Mr. McGoff?  A couple of things,






            1              what Mrs. Gatelli said last week I'd like to


            2              correct.  She apologized for her behavior


            3              from the week before and she stated that she


            4              was upset because when people come we attack


            5              her family and she gets upset.  Nobody came


            6              to this podium and attacked her family.  I


            7              came to this podium and asked her if there


            8              is any truth to rumor that she was going to


            9              try to get Jeff Brazil Gene Barrett's job


           10              and before I had the opportunity to say that


           11              she yelled, "My son-in-law?"


           12                      Mrs. Gatelli is the one that brought


           13              up her family, I did not, just to set the


           14              record straight, so and then she was also


           15              saying, Mrs. Gatelli, that people come to


           16              this podium and lie, but yet when she spoke,


           17              Mrs. Gatelli, in motions, she lied.  So, I


           18              just, you know, that's why I sort of say


           19              when I ask the question I'd like them to


           20              answer when I am here, it's my prerogative


           21              to give up my time to council members if I


           22              so wish because if they say something like


           23              that, I could have said, well, that's not


           24              true or instead of waiting for a week to


           25              address something and I guess Mrs. Gatelli






            1              is not going to answer me, but if you notice


            2              she answered everybody else, so I don't


            3              think it makes me look bad, I think it makes


            4              Mrs. Gatelli look bad because I am paying


            5              her salary, I am her boss and she is not


            6              representing me and to me it makes her look


            7              pretty bad, Mrs. Gatelli, the one who raised


            8              our taxes along with Mr. McGoff and


            9              Mrs. Fanucci along with Mr. McGoff.  You


           10              stated last week, maybe it was to


           11              Mr. Jackowitz, that people say things or and


           12              you feel that council people have a right to


           13              make faces at people and you didn't think it


           14              was rude.  Well, I definitely beg to differ,


           15              Mr. McGoff.  I think council should be set


           16              to a higher standard than the average


           17              citizen.  You knew Mr. McGoff was president


           18              of this council to even be a higher standard


           19              than the other members and tonight while I


           20              sat here I could not believe what I


           21              witnessed, you with all of your power you


           22              think trying stop Mrs. Evans from answering


           23              a person in the city?  She is an elected


           24              official, whether it be Mrs. Evans or


           25              Mrs. Gatelli or anybody, any council person






            1              that wishes to speak to a citizen whenever


            2              they want they should and will be allowed.


            3              Now, I don't think Mrs. Fanucci or


            4              Mrs. Gatelli would have the guts to cross


            5              you because the three of you were in it


            6              together, I can't speak for Mr. Courtright,


            7              but I'll tell you this, I'm very proud of


            8              Mrs. Evans for standing by the people, she


            9              always has, and for you to tell her she


           10              can't speak I'd like to know what gives you


           11              that authority?  You don't have that


           12              authority.  You are elected officials.  You


           13              are here to represent the people and if a


           14              person asks you a question I would only hope


           15              that you would have the decency to answer


           16              them not in motions when you say the rules


           17              are the rules.


           18                      Your rules are not right,


           19              Mr. McGoff, just because you say them


           20              doesn't mean these council members have to


           21              listen.  They are not ground in stone, we


           22              are not in Communist China.  This is


           23              ridiculous the way you -- you thought you


           24              were going to come out her skin when she was


           25              talking.






            1                      And another thing, Mrs. Fanucci,


            2              also week when you said you raised the taxes


            3              you said, well, you did because everybody


            4              else's prices are going up, taxes all over


            5              around, I understand what you are saying on


            6              this, the supermarket and everything else,


            7              everything is going on up, but you did not


            8              have to raise those taxes.  You had a choice


            9              and I say this because there was a budget


           10              that Mrs. Evans had that had no taxes, but


           11              you probably feel you had to raise the taxes


           12              to pay for the bills, like you said, health


           13              care and everything, but how about all of


           14              the administration people that got raises,


           15              they did not have to get raises, but you


           16              and, Mr. McGoff and Mrs. Gatelli, approved


           17              that in the budget all of these


           18              administrative raises and yet the firemen


           19              and policemen didn't get a penny, but yet


           20              you say you are for the firemen and


           21              policemen, but yet you give the


           22              administration people big raises.


           23                      Now, if you really cared about the


           24              firemen and policemen you were have stood


           25              your ground and said, "Until these firemen






            1              and policemen get a raise I am not giving


            2              anybody in the administration a raise and


            3              you did not have to raise the taxes."


            4                      So you used that as an excuse to


            5              say, "I raised the taxes because --" you did


            6              not have to raise the taxes.  That was your


            7              choice and I'm very ashamed of you.


            8              Mr. McGoff, you are not president material.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Franus.


           10              Ron Ellman.


           11                      MR. ELLMAN:  Ron Ellman, property


           12              owner and member of the Taxpayers'


           13              Association.  Mr. McGoff, if I don't come


           14              for a month can I have 20 minutes up here?


           15              I can't say it in five minutes and I


           16              couldn't say it in two and a half minutes --


           17              well, I'll go to Plan B.


           18                      Mrs. Fanucci, I was listening to you


           19              on the tape the other day, you've got a


           20              pleasant voice, you know, watching the


           21              meeting last week.  It's ashame you can't


           22              dub in your voice for that little blond on


           23              CSI Miami that talks like a Barbie Doll, she


           24              is just terrible.  Well, you know, I didn't


           25              know that you could have so many problems






            1              riding a bicycle and these potholes are such


            2              an inconvenience for a bicycle rider.  I


            3              guess they're hard on your hip bones, too,


            4              according to that commercial on television.


            5                      I was happy this afternoon and then


            6              I found out that you had a motion about the


            7              medical school.  I went to medical school in


            8              Memphis at the University of Tennessee, I'm


            9              an x-ray technician, so I'm an advocate of


           10              this school, but you cannot displace 700


           11              people in a project that there is nothing


           12              wrong with and there is no place like the ad


           13              says here, the article says, to find them a


           14              place near there, if there is place near


           15              there minimize.  You cannot expect the


           16              taxpayers around here to lose 10 or 12 acres


           17              of houses, not 10 or 12 houses, 10 or


           18              12 acres of property to be gone.  You know,


           19              the University of Scranton is devouring the


           20              Hill Section like a big octopus, everything


           21              in sight.  There is just millions of dollars


           22              gone forever.  Now the Lackawanna College is


           23              the same way, you just -- this can't be and


           24              where are we going to stop with all of these


           25              nonprofits, a college is a big business,






            1              they can afford -- they let -- do they want


            2              to buy all of the property they want, let's


            3              them pay taxes like the rest of us out here.


            4              It's just got to stop somewhere.  The


            5              article even says right here they can find


            6              another location, well, let them go find


            7              one, let them go out there to Throop or


            8              someplace and put their school in.  The


            9              taxpayers in the city is just like the


           10              people come here day in and every Monday and


           11              Tuesday they got to stop them.  You know,


           12              the school board is out of control, they


           13              have bilked the city dry with a bunch of


           14              obscenities.  It just never stops with them.


           15              The KOZ, you know, it's -- everything you


           16              talk to is KOZ for 13 years, at least some


           17              day they will be on the tax rolls.  These


           18              people will never be back on the tax roll.


           19              How to you expect the city to keep going


           20              when losing population, the intelligent


           21              population we are losing, if the people that


           22              come to this school they probably most of


           23              them don't live in town on spend millions of


           24              dollars here, if they do it will just be in


           25              KOZ restaurant on bars downtown.  It's a






            1              time to put your foot down.  This motion is


            2              obscene to let them take over that project.


            3              This is the same situation that you said


            4              would happen across the street at the Olive


            5              Street, they said they would be back in


            6              there in no time.  They are scattered all


            7              over town.  There is no place -- there is


            8              not 10 or 12 acres downtown to rebuild and


            9              put these 700 families.  It's just senseless


           10              to keep going.  You got to put your foot


           11              down somewhere and you got to remember the


           12              tax base of this town is dwindling.  I paid


           13              $350 I think in November or something for an


           14              appraisal on my house, it went down $9,000


           15              in three years.  My neighborhood looks like


           16              the dickens.  Go down North Main Avenue from


           17              the expressway towards Market Street, it


           18              looks like a dump, people parking on the


           19              grass, on the 2800 block they are throwing a


           20              bunch of the furniture out the second story


           21              it's laying there for weeks and weeks.  It's


           22              all wet.  The whole neighborhood is like


           23              that.  The town is going downhill.


           24                      You live in South Side, does your


           25              neighborhood look like the mayor's?






            1                      MS. GATELLI:  No.


            2                      MR. ELLMAN: Nobody does.  There is


            3              only one little section around here that's


            4              green, the rest of it is all brown.  It's


            5              time to stop, you know.  You can't keep


            6              milking these people anymore.  I watched


            7              that poor soul last week talk about losing


            8              his house.  I had another man that --


            9              another gentleman talking to me that Ozzie


           10              talked about for a couple of thousand


           11              dollars he is losing a house.  It's things


           12              like that just can't go on.  Thank you very


           13              much.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Ellman.


           15              David Dobson.


           16                      MR. DOBSON: Dave Dobson, resident of


           17              the Scranton, Scranton Taxpayers'


           18              Association associate.  Once again I'm up


           19              here this week, please help Channel 61 with


           20              funds for basic op costs.  As before


           21              mentioned, several months will expire after


           22              61 goes dark.  I had a chance to review the


           23              awarded proposal and I'm somewhat disturbed


           24              to find possible hundreds of percent


           25              increase over what 61 ever received and for






            1              this we'll get cooking shoes, less coverage


            2              of political and economic events and all the


            3              more expense.  I feel that instead of


            4              authorities we should have referendums to


            5              let these people decide and might I add that


            6              the public needs to work to reform


            7              themselves of what the issues are about.


            8                      We need to rededicate and fund our


            9              public access to also include issues such as


           10              energy, economics, law and many other facets


           11              of life, an ill-informed public cannot


           12              possibly solve problems by foreign ballots


           13              it casts.


           14                      Now, on 7-J, the only thing I have


           15              to say on it is please discontinue any such


           16              practice of allowing people to charge


           17              excessive penalties for people that are


           18              unable to pay the initial tax levies.  This


           19              money doesn't help us out as all except that


           20              we get a few dollars and then some poor


           21              person in the city has to come up with all


           22              of the more money, sometimes 5, 600 percent


           23              more money.  All we are to doing is


           24              enriching a bunch of the attorneys to make


           25              an easy buck and that's definitely not right






            1              and, finally, anything that could be done to


            2              help Paul Meile who appeared last week


            3              please continue with your efforts because


            4              from what I understand he hasn't gotten very


            5              far with anything and he is really a nice


            6              guy, I knew him in high school and I haven't


            7              seen him for maybe 20 years, but he was a


            8              musician all his life and unfortunately it


            9              doesn't pay very well not like the 60's


           10              where if you bought a guitar and next thing


           11              you know you were found dead and rich.  Have


           12              a good night.


           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.


           14              Are there any other speakers?


           15                      MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.  I


           16              have a couple of different items this


           17              evening.  The first is the director of Parks


           18              and Rec, Mr. Dougher, is apparently having


           19              leaves dumped behind the amphitheater in Nay


           20              Aug Park.  I know that DPW brings the leaves


           21              to the recycling center which is I believe


           22              part of our qualification to receive grants


           23              and so forth, so I would appreciate if


           24              someone would look into it, maybe there is


           25              an explanation, but in any event I think we






            1              should know why this is going on.


            2                      Several weeks ago I asked Mr. McGoff


            3              if he would investigate what type of sale we


            4              are having, did you get an answer to that?


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: I thought that I had


            6              answered you, but if I remember I had spoke


            7              to the -- I spoke to Mr. Shane and he said


            8              as far as he knew there was no sale being


            9              conducted.


           10                      MS. KRAKE: There is not going to be


           11              a sale conducted?


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: That's what he told me


           13              at this time, that he did not know of any.


           14                      MS. KRAKE: So can we have that in


           15              writing from him since you have put it in an


           16              ordinance that they have the power to have a


           17              sherif's sale, which attorneys explained to


           18              me would be a judicial sale with what's


           19              going on in Monroe County that would remove


           20              people from their homes.  So if, you know,


           21              you want to believe Mr. Shane versus getting


           22              it in writing I'm sure you could do that,


           23              but I for one would like to see that in


           24              writing and I'm sure the rest of the


           25              citizens of Scranton would.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm not exactly sure


            2              what you want in writing, but what I said


            3              was that he told me that he was not -- he


            4              did not know of any sale what that was


            5              taking place.  He didn't say that --


            6                      MS. KRAKE: Will one be taking place?


            7                      MR. MCGOFF -- there would not be in


            8              the future.


            9                      MS. KRAKE: Oh, so we don't have an


           10              answer to that then.  What is happening


           11              right now is what you're answering?


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm trying to answer it


           13              the way it was presented to him that he did


           14              not know of any planned sale.


           15                      MS. KRAKE: That's fine.  That's


           16              fine.  Obviously, you don't want to get the


           17              answer and that's okay.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF: No, I'm giving you the


           19              answer.  That's --


           20                      MS. KRAKE: Mr. McGoff, you are not


           21              giving me the answer --


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes, I am.


           23                      MS. KRAKE: If you want to believe


           24              that, that's fine.  I would like to stop


           25              discussing it right now.  Thank you.  All of






            1              the excessive charges which Mr. McGoff and


            2              Mrs. Gatelli and Mrs. Fanucci voted for and


            3              then refused to amend are going to the law


            4              firm of Abrahamsen, Moran and Conaboy, the


            5              owners of the Northeast Credit, not the City


            6              of Scranton.  The example that was just


            7              given where a gentleman owes approximately


            8              $500.00 and is now paying approximately


            9              $2,000, that $1,500 is going to a law firm.


           10              The initial reason we hired NCC was because


           11              we were distressed and to bring money into


           12              this city.  What you three people have done


           13              is brought money to Abrahamsen, Moran and


           14              Conaboy.


           15                      If it's money you wanted for the


           16              city, why did you vote for that?  If it's


           17              money that you wanted for a certain law firm


           18              then it's obvious why you voted for that.


           19              How three people can vote for vast amounts


           20              of money to go to a law firm who already has


           21              that information at it's fingertips because


           22              they own our collection agency is frankly


           23              appalling and I'm going to ask even though I


           24              know in my heart that it's not going to


           25              happen that you will not vote for 5-J which






            1              allows them to take two more years of taxes


            2              and do the same thing, the 2007 and 2008


            3              taxes.  You are do nothing to benefit your


            4              city.  Thank you.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Mrs. Krake, before you go


            7              could you tell me again it's the DPW dumping


            8              leaves?


            9                      MS. KRAKE: No, I'm sorry, it's the


           10              Director of Parks and Rec, Mr. Dougher, and


           11              I know the DPW normally brings the leaves to


           12              the recycling center, so --


           13                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  So your question


           14              was is Mr. Dougher dumping leaves in the


           15              area of the Nay Aug Park Amphitheater.


           16                      MS. KRAKE: Yes.


           17                      MS. EVANS: Okay.


           18                      MS. GATELLI: And why.


           19                      MS. EVANS: And why.


           20                      MS. KRAKE: Right.


           21                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.


           22                      MS. GATELLI: I know last year they


           23              dumped them because they used some of the


           24              leaves for mulch because I checked that out


           25              once before, the time I checked it they were






            1              dumping it over where the helicopter goes,


            2              you know where that parking lot is for the


            3              CMC?


            4                      MS. KRAKE: Yes.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  And when I


            6              investigated that they were using it for


            7              mulch.


            8                      MS. KRAKE:  Okay.


            9                      MS. GATELLI: But we'll find out.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Marie


           11              Schumacher, resident and member of the


           12              Taxpayers' Association.  First I'd like to


           13              say I hope that someone during motions


           14              tonight will address what was done during


           15              the last seven days to help Mr. Miele and


           16              whether all of the procedures that were


           17              followed were proper.  I would also like to


           18              ask who will own the equipment that the city


           19              plans to buy in accordance with the ECTV


           20              proposal in order for them to operate.  I


           21              think it amounts to some $127,000 worth of


           22              equipment and --


           23                      MS. EVANS: Mrs. Schumacher, I do


           24              hope --


           25                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Can you wait until






            1              motions?


            2                      MS. EVANS: Okay, I'm sorry.


            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Thank you.  I would


            4              also like to know who has a list of which


            5              streets will be paved this year.  On the


            6              demolition of the 30 structures in West


            7              Side, I would like to know if liens are


            8              going to be placed on those properties, a


            9              long time ago, Mrs. Gatelli, you said you


           10              are were going to have to Mr. Minora check


           11              out placing liens on the properties and I


           12              never heard anything back on that.


           13                      Also, two weeks ago, Mr. McGoff, you


           14              offered to find out what the changes were in


           15              the firefighters and police memorial, so I


           16              hope that you will address that during


           17              motions tonight.  I would like permission to


           18              address Mr. Courtright directly, if I may?


           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Absolutely.


           20                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Mr. Courtright, are


           21              the surveillance cameras now functional or


           22              is this another $220,000 flushed down the


           23              tubes as was the $315,000 spent on the


           24              amphitheater that was used for I believe one


           25              season.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: To the best of my


            2              knowledge they are not functional.


            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  That's sad.  Now,


            4              back to the Oppenheim-Connell building


            5              garage.  I am still having trouble with why


            6              this garage is being demolished.  You see,


            7              last Wednesday I attended the Scranton


            8              Redevelopment Authority meeting and they


            9              passed a resolution regarding the approval a


           10              waiver of a deed restriction in reference to


           11              the existing what they call North Washington


           12              Avenue but Oppenheim garage, and it was


           13              explained that the waiver was required --


           14              that the waiver required the partners at


           15              Steamtown Mall to make improvements and that


           16              was verifying that those improvements were


           17              indeed made, so the condition it looks as


           18              though, certainly looks as though


           19              improvements were maids and if, in fact,


           20              that's true I would like to know who


           21              determined that we needed to -- that needed


           22              to be demolished and replaced and putting us


           23              further into $35 million more debt with a


           24              like amount of interest payable over the


           25              years.






            1                      Now to the medical center and the


            2              trips come back, a feasibility study.  This


            3              study as you may recall made it clear


            4              Scranton gains yet another nonprofit


            5              nonproperty tax paying entity in return for


            6              54 directs jobs for city residents and 171


            7              indirect jobs which includes teachers that


            8              employ workers, children, restaurant workers


            9              and beginning in 2018 twenty-two graduates


           10              remaining in the area, no, not the city, in


           11              the area.


           12                      Now, we find out they have selected


           13              what is probably the only playground in the


           14              city for their headquarters and next they


           15              plan to displace a community of residents.


           16              What a wonderful example these people are.


           17              I'm sure they are here to help us not suck


           18              us dry.  Right.  And perhaps in a few years


           19              the way things are going they will be able


           20              to buy the Steamtown Mall for their school


           21              and get it for cents on the dollar.


           22                      On 5, I asked with Ozzie, I'm


           23              confused about this HR Commission.  I have


           24              never heard of it before, I have called the


           25              mayor's office at least seven times to






            1              inquire about I believe it's called an


            2              Economic Development Commission, I know you


            3              folks have appointed people to it, but the


            4              City Clerk's Office has no idea of when they


            5              meet or who is on this commission, and the


            6              mayor's office keeps saying they will find


            7              out and I never hear back from them.


            8                      And on 5-J I am certainly against


            9              taking our elected officials out of the


           10              oversight loop.  I think it should stay


           11              here.


           12                      And just as two final things, as to


           13              the mayor's function last week that included


           14              the Doherty four, that would be Mr. McGoff,


           15              Fanucci, Gatelli and Stacy Brown, but


           16              excluded the taxpayers, too, the campaign


           17              records will show who was comped and who


           18              paid and then finally there is a Hill


           19              Section cleanup this Saturday from noon


           20              until 2:30, if people wants to know how to


           21              do it I'm sure that they can find out.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           23                      MR. HUBBARD: Good evening, Council.


           24              Liz Hubbard, Scranton resident, homeowner


           25              and taxpayer.  Just a couple of questions,






            1              what do the people in this city have to do


            2              to get the city to do something about the


            3              wildlife problem?  I know I brought this


            4              subject up before, I mean, do we need to get


            5              a citywide petition for the city to hire


            6              people to get rid of these woodchucks that


            7              are burrowing under people's homes and the


            8              skunks that are roaming freely and dying in


            9              the middle of a field near my house, God


           10              know what's it died from, hopefully not


           11              rabies.


           12                      Is there a way we could get the city


           13              to do something about this, hire more


           14              people?


           15                      MS. GATELLI: Do you want an answer


           16              or do you want to wait?


           17                      MS. HUBBARD: I'll wait.  My next


           18              question, observation, I'm not too up on it,


           19              but I understand that this ECTV they have to


           20              buy all of their equipment, they need money


           21              to do that and they are going to get the


           22              money from the city?  Channel 61 already has


           23              equipment, why would you switch to somebody


           24              that you have to give them money to buy


           25              equipment?  I mean, if they are coming in






            1              here and had $500,000 of their own money to


            2              invest in equipment and they made a better


            3              proposal or whatever I could understand


            4              switching providers, but they have nothing,


            5              they don't even have a building, only one


            6              donated by Mr. Mansure, that city money will


            7              pay to have renovated which I understand is


            8              in a deplorable condition and they might not


            9              be up and running for a year or more.  I


           10              don't understand that at all, and I think if


           11              you people have to vote on giving them money


           12              I think you should vote against giving them


           13              any money.


           14                      But, anyway, getting back to the


           15              skunks, I mean, they caught a 17-pounder up


           16              in the Hill Section, that's got to be like a


           17              dog.  It was in the newspaper, March the


           18              7th.  He is a 17-pound skunk.  Now, I mean,


           19              this is getting out of hand, they're


           20              everywhere, and, I mean, we pay taxes and we


           21              have to then like I say it cost me $270 or


           22              something last year to get rid of two of


           23              them and they are still around.  So, I mean,


           24              let's let our tax dollars do something for


           25              the good of the people instead of the






            1              cronies who get loans and whatever.  That's


            2              all I have.  Thank you.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Tank you, Mrs. Hubbard.


            4                      MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening.  Nelson


            5              Ancherani, resident and taxpayer, city


            6              employee, financial secretary of the FOP,


            7              First Amendment Rights.  I would just like


            8              to comment about some of the speakers that


            9              come and they continue every week to talk


           10              about raising taxes and, yes, I did vote to


           11              raise taxes, the taxes in the city were


           12              raised I believe two times in 17 years and I


           13              find it peculiar that there are other taxing


           14              bodies that raise them every year and I


           15              don't see any of the people that come here


           16              at those meetings and I just wonder to


           17              myself why do they come here or do we raise


           18              them once.  Once.  I raised them once since


           19              I'm sitting here and they don't go where,


           20              where other people are raising them.  I just


           21              haven't been able to figure that out there


           22              yet.


           23                      I just quoted Miss Gatelli from last


           24              week's council meeting and, yes, I'm the


           25              person Ms. Gatelli is talking about.  I






            1              wasn't going to respond with an answer, I


            2              don't believe I have to or justify why I


            3              come here, but I will.  Only because I come


            4              here week after weak and expect answers even


            5              though I, along with numerous other


            6              speakers, don't get them.  If Ms. Gatelli


            7              correct and taxes were only raised twice in


            8              17 years that would mean once in Connors'


            9              administration and once in Doherty's


           10              administration.  The difference would be


           11              that Ms. Gatelli, Ms. Fanucci and Mr. McGoff


           12              raised our taxes 25 percent in one swipe of


           13              the pen during the Doherty administration.


           14              I bet the tax increase in the Connors'


           15              administration was not 25 percent with the


           16              speculation there would be two more


           17              25 percent tax increases condoned by the


           18              Pennsylvania Economy League and the mayor.


           19                   In fact, in 1992, when the city was


           20              declared distressed Connors objected.  Could


           21              you believe that PEL and Lynn Krushefski


           22              along with certain bank officials tried to


           23              get a $44 million loan approved along with


           24              the 25 percent tax increase, this 25 percent


           25              tax increase occurred in 2007, the third






            1              year that 12.2 million plus was deemed


            2              deposited and in my opinion in a secret


            3              account.  I can't help but think if there is


            4              one secret account out there could there be


            5              more?


            6                      One question I asked also week,


            7              where is PEL?  Did anyone hear from them?


            8              12.2 million in the secret account and they


            9              have no comment and we paid them millions


           10              and they showed their incompetence?  Where


           11              is PEL, hiding out with Waldo?


           12                      Getting back to my answer to Ms.


           13              Gatelli, I have been coming to council


           14              meetings since 2002, the year of the


           15              Recovery Plan.  I come to council because


           16              I'm a city employee who is a member of the


           17              union that the mayor is trying to bust. The


           18              county isn't try to do that to us.  I pick


           19              my battles.  I'm not in the survival battle


           20              with the county.  Taxes were raised


           21              25 percent in 2007 by Ms. Gatelli, Ms.


           22              Fanucci and Mr. McGoff.  Yes, the county did


           23              raise taxes 48 percent and you can see what


           24              the electorate in the county did to the


           25              persons who raised them, they voted the






            1              parties out unlike the city who reelected


            2              the tax raises.  The difference in the city


            3              is that there is voter apathy or another


            4              reason, the taxpayers like to get their


            5              wallets empty and they sit back and complain


            6              and do nothing about it unlike the county


            7              voters who have back bones.  City taxpayers


            8              are like sheep, they sit back and let other


            9              people do their fighting for them.  It's


           10              like the kid who constantly reaches his hand


           11              into the cookie jar when he is told to stay


           12              away and he constantly goes back and gets


           13              his hand slapped.  He must enjoy the


           14              punishment just like Scranton's electorate.


           15                      As long as God is willing I am going


           16              to come to Council and mention the names of


           17              the parties who voted for the 25 percent tax


           18              increase, Ms. Gatelli, Ms. Fanucci and


           19              Mr. McGoff.  When I believe the time is


           20              right for me to attend the county and school


           21              district meetings I will.  Right now the


           22              taxpayers group is doing a great job at


           23              attending those meetings and if I can assist


           24              them in any way I will and, yes, I'm the


           25              city employee who hasn't had a raise in






            1              seven years, not even a cost of living raise


            2              while other city employees, favorites as I


            3              call them, have gotten raises to the tune of


            4              $15 million.  The one example that sticks


            5              out in my mind is Stu Renda.  He went from


            6              $39,000 in 2003 to $85,000 in 2008, an


            7              increase of $46,000 and, yes, it was you


            8              three, Ms. Gatelli, Ms. Fanucci and


            9              Mr. McGoff who voted to give these favorites


           10              these increases during your tenure of


           11              council along with previous rubber stampers.


           12              You showed your true feelings for union


           13              workers when you voted for the $85 million


           14              budget this year.  You had the opportunity


           15              to make the situation fair and somewhat


           16              equal.  You ignored a budget prepared by Ms.


           17              Evans that would have started to make the


           18              playing field equal between the union


           19              workers and the favorites.  I thank you for


           20              nothing.  Remember, you three, Ms. Gatelli,


           21              Ms. Fanucci and Mr. McGoff ran for office


           22              and were elected for those positions.  You


           23              three people up there, just like my job, we


           24              have to remember, if we can't take the heat


           25              we can get out of the kitchen.  Thank you.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,


            2              Mr. Ancherani.  Is there anyone else?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Happy birthday again,


            4              Mr. McGoff.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Mrs. Evans.


            6                      MS. EVANS: Good evening.  I'd like


            7              to revisit the South Side complex issue.


            8              Recently I read that the University of


            9              Scranton plans to construct athletic fields


           10              on property they owned outside of city


           11              limits I believe in Springfield Township.


           12              This announcement raises the question of the


           13              fate of the South Side complex.  In 2007 I


           14              requested information in three


           15              correspondences dated January 12, 2007,


           16              March 20 and April 2.  The third request was


           17              made unanimously by council.  All requests


           18              were addressed to the mayor with copies to


           19              the director of Parks and Recreation.  To


           20              date, no responses were received from the


           21              mayor.  In light of these new developments I


           22              ask that Scranton City Council request a


           23              written response from the mayor on or before


           24              April 28, 2008, to the following questions:


           25                      First, where is the replacement site






            1              for the South Side Complex?  Second, what


            2              dollar amount will the city contribute to


            3              enlighten softball field in conformity with


            4              ASA requirements?  Third, what dollar amount


            5              will the University of Scranton contribute


            6              to the replacement fields?  And, fourth,


            7              what are the University's plans for the


            8              South Side Complex?  And if council is


            9              agreeable we could send that letter from the


           10              five of us?


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: You are asking that to


           12              be sent to the mayor?


           13                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I just the last part


           15              should that be sent to the University or --


           16              I don't know that the mayor would have the


           17              answer to that part of the question.


           18                      MS. EVANS: Well, then we can


           19              certainly send a copy to the University of


           20              Scranton if that would be sufficient or


           21              would you like a separate letter, it doesn't


           22              matter to me, whichever is your preference.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: I would think that a


           24              letter to the mayor and a copy to the


           25              University would be appropriate to get the






            1              information that you want.


            2                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Now, many


            3              city residents continue to inquire regarding


            4              the status of the complex and the city's


            5              apparent violation of the memorandum of


            6              understanding as required by Senate Bill


            7              850.  I hope the mayor will choose to


            8              respond to them and to council this time.


            9                   On a financial front, city


           10              representatives intended to meet with bank


           11              representatives in March regard the upcoming


           12              borrowing of $11.5 million, and at the same


           13              time city representatives anticipate that a


           14              forensic audit of the Single Tax Office


           15              would take from six months to a year since


           16              the tax office states that it's quite busy


           17              through April 15, unfortunately, I don't


           18              sense any urgency to proceed expeditiously


           19              on their part at this time.


           20                      And at last week's council meeting I


           21              was asked by a speaker for information


           22              regarding the ability of the committee chair


           23              to call for an investigation.  The citation


           24              source is Purdon's Pennsylvania Statute


           25              Annotated, Title 53, Municipal and






            1              Quasi-Municipal Corporations as amended


            2              through Act 1998-43, Chapter 52, Section


            3              2239, and I'll give this to Mr. Courtright


            4              as I promised last week.


            5                      Now, among the numerous statutes I


            6              have examined I have also learned from


            7              Chapter 52, Section 2228, that council and


            8              the mayor or either have the right to call


            9              for information from departments as either


           10              of them may think proper.  Therefore, it


           11              appears to the mayor's permission is not


           12              necessary.  It appears the mayor has been in


           13              violation of the state statute and so each


           14              time that council requests of the mayor as


           15              we have in the last week, may we have the


           16              permission to have the head of Parks and


           17              Recreation, the head of OECD, address city


           18              council and explain various programs.  There


           19              is no need to go through the mayor.  Council


           20              has the authority according to state


           21              statutes to make those requests just as the


           22              mayor does.  We can do them together or we


           23              can do them separately, so I don't believe


           24              that we need the mayor's permission.  I


           25              don't believe either that any department






            1              head needs the permission of the mayor to


            2              speak to city council.  They should be


            3              forthcoming on the request of council itself


            4              and I do have that citation as well from


            5              state statutes.


            6                      Also, I have some responses to a few


            7              requests that were made last week from Chief


            8              David Elliott in reference to a recent


            9              request to monitor the illegal parking in


           10              the 900 block of Greenridge Street, the


           11              highway unit looked in the complaint and


           12              reported that five vehicles have been


           13              ticketed and officers will continue to watch


           14              this area for illegal parking.


           15                      And he also indicates that, "On


           16              April 4 I received a request to look in


           17              possible abandoned vehicles in the 100 block


           18              of South Merrifield.  Officers were sent to


           19              look into this matter and discovered four


           20              vehicles that were considered abandoned, two


           21              with no tags and two with expired tags.


           22              After the vehicles were tagged, the process


           23              for removal has begun.  The owners must


           24              register and/or inspect the vehicles to make


           25              them roadworthy or they will be towed from






            1              the street and he will update all of us with


            2              any further progress."


            3                      Next, I have some requests for this


            4              past week.  A letter to Mr. Brazil, please


            5              pave the 1400 block of Dupont Court which is


            6              located between New York Street and Marian


            7              Street.  It was last paved 40 years ago


            8              according to residents.


            9                      Please fill pot holes on DeSales


           10              Avenue between Cornell and Bryn Mawr Streets


           11              and on Parrot Avenue between Sloan and St.


           12              Ann's streets.


           13                      Numerous residents of West Scranton


           14              request that city streets are cleaned


           15              following the winter months.  They note that


           16              other cities are kept clean in comparison to


           17              Scranton City streets and I concur with


           18              their observations.  I frequently travel


           19              through Harrisburg, Carlisle, Wyalusing,


           20              Reading, Dunmore, Lewisburg, Elizabethtown,


           21              Boston and have traveled throughout various


           22              southern states in the past several years


           23              and I have not witnessed the amount of filth


           24              that I see on many of our Scranton streets


           25              nor have I ever traveled over such pothole






            1              cratered and littered roads.


            2                      For five years I have listened to


            3              the complaints of our taxpayers who


            4              earnestly want to take pride in their city


            5              and their neighborhoods who take such


            6              meticulous care of their own properties


            7              while the city streets remain in deplorable


            8              condition.  You're hard-pressed to find five


            9              streets on which to drive that are actually


           10              a smooth surface in this city.  I don't know


           11              what it will take to awaken this


           12              administration to the people's priorities.


           13                   211 Holster Avenue, this is a condemned


           14              property that has not received garbage


           15              pick-up, however, the owner pays the garbage


           16              fee.  Please collect the trash at this


           17              location.


           18                      Warden Place between Cooper and


           19              Diamond Avenue there are many deep potholes


           20              and the city has cold patched several times


           21              through the years.  It lasts approximately


           22              one to two months, so please pave Warden


           23              Place.


           24                      A letter to Mr. Seitzinger and


           25              Mr. Brazil, residents of the surrounding






            1              area report that nothing has been done to


            2              correct the problems in Smith Place.  These


            3              problems have been ongoing since prior to


            4              October 2007 when the residents first


            5              presented with the reports to LIPS.  The DPW


            6              was first informed in November or early


            7              December of 2007.  When can these taxpayers


            8              expect to see tangible results?


            9                      These are the people's problems and


           10              they want to see results tore their tax


           11              dollars.  They do not focus on the downtown


           12              and parks as much as they do concentrate on


           13              the streets in their neighborhoods.  They


           14              feel these priorities have been ignored over


           15              the past seven years and they are demanding


           16              a cleaner city and better roads.


           17                      A second request to repair large


           18              craters in the 200 of Franklin Avenue at the


           19              entrance to the Forum garage, and if I may


           20              send a letter inquiring why Mr. Dougher is


           21              dumping leaves in the area of the Nay Aug


           22              Park Amphitheater and I would ask residents,


           23              particularly in light of the discussion that


           24              was held a few minutes ago regarding skunks


           25              and woodchucks, etcetera, please don't place






            1              your garbage out at curb side prior to


            2              24 hours in advance of your collection day


            3              because that really does encourage animals


            4              to come along and pick apart the garbage


            5              bags.  I know not everyone has trash cans,


            6              but this certainly is adding to the problems


            7              not only, you know, the dirt within the


            8              city, but I think we are attracting these


            9              types of animals to our neighborhoods.


           10                      And, finally, I attended an open


           11              house conducted by Mr. John Darcy and


           12              Mr. Chris Balton of ECTV on Saturday.  I


           13              learned that ECTV will appear before the


           14              zoning board tomorrow night.  They are in


           15              the process of obtaining insurance and have


           16              not yet become a nonprofit organization.


           17              Incidentally, they are looking for a use


           18              variance from zoning tomorrow in an R-1-A


           19              zone.


           20                      Further, renovations to 933 Prescott


           21              Avenue have not commenced since insurance


           22              must first be obtained.  They are


           23              approximately 60 days into their proposed


           24              90-day transition period, but are obviously


           25              not prepared to assume operation within the






            1              forthcoming 30 days.


            2                      Further, Mr. Balton appeared very


            3              enthusiastic and anxious to work with


            4              members of Scranton Today during and after


            5              the takeover.


            6                      Also, in response to Ms. Schumacher,


            7              the city will retain the equipment, not


            8              ECTV.  I move, therefore, that Scranton City


            9              Council provide $20,000 from the contingency


           10              fund to Scranton Today in order to maintain


           11              operation of Channel 61 and 62 until such


           12              time as ECTV has obtained insurance,


           13              completed renovations, received nonprofit


           14              status, and purchased equipment and is fully


           15              operational.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Second.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  At the


           18              meeting did they indicate when they thought


           19              they would begin operational?


           20                      MS. EVANS: Actually, no.  Everything


           21              seems to be quite up in the air, though I


           22              know they are very anxious to get going.


           23              They did mention I believe also that they


           24              would be applying for OECD funds for the


           25              purchase of some equipment and I believe






            1              that I believe that at least according to


            2              what Mr. Balton told me the renovations will


            3              not come from the cable franchise fee, but


            4              rather from the private donations and


            5              donors, renovations to the building 933


            6              Prospect Avenue.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF: The reason I ask that, I


            8              did speak to Mr. Darcy and I don't know


            9              if I'm -- I believe it was prior to the


           10              meeting that they had and he indicated to me


           11              that they thought they were going to start


           12              by mid-May.  Now, from what you are saying


           13              that doesn't seem like it's --


           14                      MS. EVANS: No.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: -- a feasible or a


           16              reasonable time frame.


           17                      MS. EVANS: I'm just basing the


           18              report that I gave to you on my attendance


           19              at that meeting and all of this information


           20              was presented to, oh, I would say at least


           21              25 neighbors and interested people who would


           22              like to see Channel 61 and 62 succeed.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: And the reason I ask, I


           24              would like to see the continuation of


           25              Channel 61.  My concern was at what time






            1              this change is going to take place and a


            2              monetary donation, but giving money in an


            3              amount of $20,000 to Scranton Today is that


            4              too much, is it too little, is it -- what is


            5              it that's needed in order to keep --


            6                      MS. EVANS: Well, I'm glad you asked


            7              that --


            8                      MR. MCGOFF: -- the operation until.


            9                      MS. EVANS: -- because I spoke to the


           10              president of Scranton Today, Karen Bazzarri,


           11              and she agreed that $20,000 would be a


           12              suitable amount to keep them operational


           13              until ECTV is fully prepared to take over.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI: How long is that?


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  How long would the


           16              $20,000 --


           17                      MS. FANUCCI: How long would the


           18              $20,000 last though?


           19                      MS. EVANS: I would expect that's


           20              going to last them, they will budget it


           21              until Mr. Balton is ready.  Mr. Darcy I


           22              believe is the one who is going to do the


           23              renovations to the building, but, you know,


           24              as I said, before any of that can begin, of


           25              course, there has to be insurance in place,






            1              also.  I believe there is a problem with a


            2              lease agreement at this time.  They are


            3              leasing the property for a dollar a year,


            4              however, it hasn't been decided yet whether


            5              it's going to be the year-to-year lease or a


            6              five-year lease, so there are a number of


            7              issues at play here and my concern is that


            8              we keep all government meetings broadcasts


            9              to the citizens not just of Scranton, but


           10              the entire northeastern area until such


           11              time, as I said, they are prepared to assume


           12              operations.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  The only concern I


           14              have is I was told that this weekend the


           15              only thing that was on was old council


           16              meetings, they ran for the whole weekend.


           17              You know, if they need this money I don't


           18              know why they are repeating old council


           19              meetings.


           20                      MS. EVANS: Because they don't have


           21              money to provide additional programming.


           22              They have had to go down to basically a


           23              skeleton programming presentation because


           24              they have had no funding.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  So, what will we be






            1              funding, just the city council meeting.


            2                      MS. EVANS: No, no.  I'm not sure --


            3              their priority actually I believe for


            4              Scranton Today is on the one hand to provide


            5              uncensored access to all live government


            6              meetings as well as rebroadcasts of those


            7              meetings and then whatever additional


            8              programming can be supplied, but right now I


            9              would have to say I'm not as concerned about


           10              the Chinese language learners and the


           11              cooking shows as I am about all government


           12              meetings being broadcast until this --


           13                      MS. GATELLI: Well, I just don't see


           14              repeating council meetings from three months


           15              ago.  I don't think that's appropriate.  I


           16              think that they should run this one, but I


           17              can't see running old council meetings, you


           18              know, I just don't think that's proper that


           19              it's the only meeting being taped and I know


           20              for a fact that there was a school board


           21              meeting recently and there were comments


           22              made about people and they had deleted it


           23              from the television, and I take offense to


           24              that because there is things here that


           25              people call us that aren't true and we can't






            1              have them deleted, so why are certain things


            2              being deleted from other meetings?  I don't


            3              think that's right.  I think all meetings


            4              should be live and all meetings should be


            5              the full context of whatever anybody says up


            6              there, whether it's true or false, black,


            7              blue, or purple.


            8                      So, I am a little upset with Channel


            9              61 right now because there was a meeting and


           10              it was -- a phone call was made and that


           11              portion was taken out of the meeting and,


           12              you know, I take offense to that.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  And I would agree with


           14              you 1,000 percent.  Everything needs to be


           15              included for eery government body.


           16                      MS. GATELLI: Absolutely.


           17                      MS. EVANS: Without any exception.


           18                      MS. GATELLI: But having a marathon


           19              council meeting, what's the purpose of that?


           20              And it was one where there was a person that


           21              was really harassing everyone and very nasty


           22              and it was just repeated all weekend and,


           23              you know, you can be nasty, but why repeat


           24              that same one for the whole weekend, you


           25              know, repeat this one.






            1                      MS. EVANS: I would agree with that


            2              though, I haven't --


            3                      MS. GATELLI: Play the current one.


            4                      MS. EVANS: I haven't seen it, but I


            5              would ask you not to -- I understand your


            6              feelings and I agree with your feelings, but


            7              --


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  I mean, can they take


            9              a little less money being that they are not


           10              covering as many things?


           11                      MS. EVANS: I'm just going to present


           12              it at the $20,000, I think, because I really


           13              don't know --


           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Whether they may --


           15                      MS. EVANS: -- enough about their


           16              programming to go back and say, will you


           17              give me this if I give you that, but agreed


           18              every meeting has to be uncensored.


           19                      MS. GATELLI: Absolutely.  I agree.


           20                      MS. EVANS: However, I don't believe


           21              that we should because of any feelings we


           22              have about the station we should in any way


           23              cast a vote that would deny the public from


           24              watching not just city council, county


           25              commissioners, the school board, the zoning






            1              board, the sewer authority, whatever it


            2              might be.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: I would like to see what


            4              the cost, I'll say monthly cost of Scranton


            5              Today were in order to broadcast programs


            6              and then determine the amount of money that


            7              would be needed to fund Scranton Today until


            8              such time as ECTV were to take over.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.  I was also


           10              asking, I don't remember when we gave them


           11              the money last time --


           12                      MS. GATELLI: $13,000.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: But how far of a span


           14              was it from the day we passed it, they got


           15              it and how far did it get them?  I know it


           16              got them to the end of the year, but how


           17              long did it really help them?


           18                      MS. EVANS: And that is also I know,


           19              and this doesn't play a huge role in it, but


           20              the employees hadn't been paid in quite


           21              awhile.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           23                      MS. EVANS: And that was one of their


           24              issues in December.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: I think if we find out






            1              exactly how much and then maybe talk to the


            2              new people who are going to be running the


            3              TV and say, okay, this is exact.  Let's try


            4              to make it and then the take over day would


            5              be that day regardless.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Have they asked the


            7              school board or the county commissioners for


            8              any additional funding to help them?


            9                      MS. EVANS: I think they did receive


           10              some funding from the county commissioners.


           11              I don't know anything about the school


           12              board, but I brought the issue up last week.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.


           14                      MS. EVANS: And I said I would bring


           15              it up again this week, and at that time the


           16              only question posed was in what amount of


           17              time was Electric City TV due to take over


           18              the operations of 61 and 62?  I only wish


           19              that all of the questions you are posing


           20              tonight you would have posed to me last week


           21              or during the week so it could have been


           22              settled by now because it is a concern to me


           23              that the screen could go black and it will


           24              go black because we are trying to decide


           25              what type of programming they should have,






            1              how much money is appropriate, how long will


            2              it last you, would it affect the, you know,


            3              they stated the amount of money that they


            4              believe is necessary until such time as


            5              Mr. Darcy and Mr. Balton to get ready on


            6              their feet and go.  I don't know that you


            7              are going to be able to tie either one of


            8              them down or their board to one specific


            9              date and say, "We are going to have


           10              everything finished."


           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Well I think the


           12              problem is that the answer that I received


           13              of when they were would up and running and


           14              the answer you are giving are two different


           15              answers to be honest with you.  It wasn't


           16              that I didn't pose the questions to you, I


           17              actually talked to the people who were


           18              involved, so I think that's what the issue


           19              is.  I'm hearing it might be a few weeks and


           20              from what you are saying it is not going to


           21              be a few weeks, so that's where I'm having


           22              my struggle.  It certainly isn't that I want


           23              the television to go dark nor do I really


           24              commenting on the programming, so until my


           25              facts are straight to whoever it is that I






            1              need to get my information from then I will


            2              decide, but I certainly do not want to see


            3              61, and I don't mean to toot my own horn,


            4              but I had my own show and I was pretty darn


            5              good on it, so I like 61, I'm a firm


            6              believer in 61.  My issue is more of I'm


            7              still spending the taxpayers' money and I


            8              want to do it wisely and that's all I have.


            9                      MS. EVANS: I do, too, but, again, we


           10              are going to be spending hundreds and


           11              hundreds of thousands of dollars of the


           12              taxpayers' money with Electric City TV.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI: We certainly will.


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


           15                      MS. GATELLI: And we hope the


           16              programming will be more widespread.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Ms. Evans, can I


           18              just add one thing?


           19                      MS. EVANS: Sure.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That figure $20,000


           21              was given to you Mrs. Bazzarri, right?  Is


           22              that correct?


           23                      MS. EVANS: I checked it out with


           24              her, yes.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I just think they






            1              have been over all of the years have been


            2              very, very fair with us and I think if we


            3              give 61 the $20,000 if, in fact, they didn't


            4              need to use that $20,000 I would think that


            5              they would be agreeable to return it to us,


            6              I think Mrs. Bazzarri and Channel 61 they


            7              are fair.  I don't think we need to be


            8              concerned about them ripping us off in any


            9              way, shape or form, so I think if she says


           10              $20,000 she must have a good handle on it,


           11              she has been there a good long time, if you


           12              would to want just put it in your motion and


           13              if at one time that money is not used it


           14              would be returned to the city I think they


           15              are trustworthy and I think they are fair.


           16                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  I'll add that


           17              to the motion then, if the monies are not


           18              used at the termination of their services


           19              monies will be returned to the city.


           20                      MR. MCGOFF: I think that's


           21              reasonable.


           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  I do, too.


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: I just want to make sure


           24              Mrs. Garvey has the motion.


           25                      MS. GATELLI: She'll listen to it






            1              tomorrow.  Right, Mrs. Garvey?


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, I don't want us to


            3              vote on something unless it's accurate for


            4              the record.  Are we good?  So, the motion


            5              has been made to ask for $20,000 funding of


            6              Channel 61 until such time as ECTV takes


            7              control -- or excuse me, funding for


            8              Scranton Today until ECTV takes control of


            9              Channel 61 with any unused funds to be


           10              returned to the city upon transfer of


           11              control; correct?  And that has and


           12              seconded.  Okay, just making it clear.  All


           13              in favor?


           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  All opposed?  The


           19              ayes have it and so moved.


           20                      MS. EVANS: And that's it.  Thank


           21              you.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Gatelli.


           23                      MS. GATELLI: First of all, I would


           24              like to thank Douglas for all his hard work


           25              and Casey and Anna, and it was a very






            1              worthwhile endeavor, everybody had a good


            2              time that was there.


            3                      As far as the fire and police


            4              memorial, the fire memorial is almost


            5              complete from what I have been told.  The


            6              only problem is we are having a problem with


            7              OECD funding it unless it's in a low to


            8              moderate income area so there is a problem


            9              there.  I know that most people would like


           10              to see it in front of city hall between us


           11              and the bank and that's why we are hoping to


           12              raise the money privately so that we could


           13              put it wherever we would like to put it.  We


           14              will still continue to fundraise for that


           15              money, any businesses that would like to


           16              donate we need $50,000, we only have $2,300.


           17              Other than that, we have to put it in a low


           18              to moderate income area.  There are several


           19              locations that they are looking at, but we


           20              really would like to put it between city


           21              hall and the bank and that is not an


           22              acceptable location for OECD funds so that's


           23              why there is it a problem.  So, we will


           24              continue to work on that and keep you


           25              updated as to the status of those two






            1              memorials.


            2                      Cub Pack 16 at the Hickory Street


            3              Presbyterian Church is having their first


            4              pancake breakfast on Saturday, April 12,


            5              from six to ten.  Pancakes, sausage, orange


            6              juice and coffee and takeouts are available.


            7              It's $6.00 for adults and $4.00 for children


            8              and the proceeds help with the operation of


            9              cubpack 16 in South Scranton.


           10                      Next weekend in the Cultural Center


           11              we will have the Broadway Theatre is


           12              presenting the play Evita.  It is the 18th,


           13              19th and 20th, at the Cultural Center and


           14              you can call the Cultural Center for


           15              tickets.


           16                      April is autism month, and I said it


           17              before but I'll keep repeating it until the


           18              time comes, the Minooka Lions are having


           19              their Autism Awareness Fundraiser on


           20              April 26 at St. Joe's Hall in Minooka,


           21              tickets are $15.  You can call Jack Walsh at


           22              346-2152.


           23                      Also, there will be a walk for


           24              Autism April 19 at Nay Aug Park.


           25              Registration is at 10:00 and the walk is at






            1              11, $15 and children under 18 is free.


            2              Information is 341-3388.


            3                      The Northeast Theater is having a


            4              play, it is free, it is called the Men of


            5              Mahjong.  It's a tale of four elderly Jewish


            6              men who secretly take on a traditional


            7              female game of Mahjong.  It will tickle your


            8              spirit and touch your heart.  For free


            9              tickets the number is 558-1515, and it will


           10              be held on April 21 at 7:00.


           11                      The next thing is the annual


           12              rigatoni and meatball dinner at the Dante


           13              Society in South Scranton.  The dinner is


           14              from 5 to 7, takeouts from 4 to 5, I was


           15              looking for the ticket, $7.50 a ticket, and


           16              if you haven't had macaroni from the Dante


           17              Club you haven't had real macaroni, so


           18              please try to attend.  The 26th.  April 26,


           19              Saturday.


           20                      I'm like the social girl here.  The


           21              Odd Couple female version Neil Simon's play


           22              at the Northeast Theatre May 7 to the 25th.


           23              Agnus Cummings is the star.  She is a very,


           24              very dear friend of mine, she is a


           25              substitute teacher in the Scranton School






            1              District.  You can tall the Northeast


            2              Theatre, 558-1515.


            3                      The next thing is to promote Stacy


            4              Brown.  Stacy is going to be the MC at an


            5              event at the University of Scranton


            6              DeNaple's Center.  It is called the night at


            7              the Apollo.  It's Thursday, April 24, at


            8              8:00.  The event will feature a classic Ella


            9              Fitzgerald performance by his wife Shanay.


           10              Very special guest performances will be


           11              given by the Temptations, the Winstons, the


           12              songs of Charles Lee and the Harlem Jazz


           13              Ensemble.  Also appearing in speaking roles


           14              are civil rights activists, New York radio


           15              show host and former Mt. Vernon mayor


           16              Earnest D. Davis, Court TV's Diane Diamond,


           17              CBS radio Michael Shane, West Chester County


           18              Democratic chairman Dave Albert, and the


           19              very special guest the operator of the


           20              Apollo Theatre, Billy Mitchell.  It should


           21              be a fun night, Stacy.


           22                      The Drama Club of West Scranton High


           23              School Charlie and the Chocolate Factory


           24              next week, Friday, Saturday and Sunday,


           25              tickets are $3.00 and can be obtained at the






            1              school.


            2                      Cleanups, I'd like to thank the


            3              Cubscout Pack 11, West Scranton Senior


            4              Citizens' Center for their cleanup this past


            5              weekend.  Anyone who drives up the Eynon


            6              Street viaduct will find it free of cups,


            7              straws and other pizza boxes and it has been


            8              cleaned and it is wonderful.  We would like


            9              to get the Boy Scouts and the neighborhood


           10              groups we are going to be scheduling them


           11              soon in South Side to start their clean-up


           12              projects.


           13                      They also cleaned Theodore Street to


           14              Far Street, that got 70 bags of garbage and


           15              the cubmaster is Paul Mark.


           16                      The new catch basin on North Carrie


           17              and Lafayette started this week.  I would


           18              like to thank Mr. Brazil, we are over there


           19              several times, they are having a water


           20              problem on that corner so they are going to


           21              attempt to put in a new catch basin.


           22                      The skunk problem that Mrs. Hubbard


           23              referred to, when I checked into it there


           24              seems to be a problem with the collecting of


           25              skunks because the game commission has to






            1              take them.  It's a new rule with the game


            2              commission, so it's not really that there is


            3              nobody to catch them, there is no place to


            4              take them.  It's a game commission problem,


            5              so maybe if we contact our state


            6              representatives we can get them to change,


            7              you know, their rule of the game commission


            8              and we will be able to pick them up.  They


            9              are a problem.  Mrs. Evans is right, please


           10              don't put your garbage out and please try to


           11              put it in a container because they do open


           12              the bags.


           13                      Liens on demolished properties, yes,


           14              there are liens placed on those demolished


           15              properties, only when it's a business.  I


           16              believe the mayor has forgiven certain ones,


           17              but when it's through community and their


           18              homes there are liens being placed on them


           19              that's to answer Mrs. Schumacher's question.


           20                      And I'm going to address


           21              Mr. Ancherani's comments, I know that you


           22              have a point to make, but I want you to be


           23              aware that if I vote for a tax increase it


           24              doesn't mean I'm voting against the unions,


           25              you know, maybe you feel that that's the end






            1              result, but if a union contract comes before


            2              me and there is a significant raise in it I


            3              certainly will vote for it.  I certainly


            4              would vote for another tax increase, so that


            5              the unions could get a raise I'm not afraid


            6              to do that, so I don't want you to think


            7              that because I voted for a tax raise and you


            8              didn't get a raise that I wouldn't be for


            9              that if it can before me.  When I did talk


           10              I'm the beginning to Attorney Jennings on


           11              several occasions trying to get an


           12              agreement, trying to get together and get a


           13              contract settlement, he had told me that he


           14              had never heard from anybody from the city


           15              before.  I was the first one that had ever


           16              called him to setup a meeting or to ask any


           17              questions.  I don't know if you are aware,


           18              Mr. Ancherani, but I was told by several


           19              people to mind my own business and not to


           20              pursue that any longer.  So, that is why I


           21              never met with Mr. Jennings.  No, it wasn't


           22              you, and if you so wish you can speak to


           23              your other colleagues and I certainly would


           24              call him again.  I met with the mayor with


           25              Mr. Schreiber, Mr. Schreiber was going to






            1              set something up for us to go to Bethlehem,


            2              that never came to fruition, so it seemed


            3              that every stone that I turned I got kicked


            4              in the teeth for sticking my nose in, and I


            5              didn't think I was sticking my nose in, I


            6              thought I was trying to help.  I thought if


            7              we had four votes up here that we could get


            8              you a contract and I still believe that.  I


            9              think if we have had four votes we could


           10              settle the contract, and I think that is


           11              possible and I talked to Jennings about


           12              that.


           13                      So am I anti-union, no, and I wish


           14              you wouldn't say that because that's not


           15              true, I'm in an union, too, I was at my


           16              union meeting last night at the school board


           17              and I would like to thank Mr. Quinn because


           18              he stuck up for our union members and our


           19              high cost of health care that we are saddled


           20              with, so we know your problems.  We know


           21              what you are facing because we face it, too.


           22              We face the same exact things that happened


           23              down here, but if something comes before me


           24              or if you want me to pursue working with


           25              Mr. Jennings I certainly would be happy to.






            1              I'd be happy to be an advocate for the


            2              unions and I would continue.  Thanks,


            3              Mr. Ancherani.  That's all.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Mrs.


            5              Fanucci.


            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  I actually have


            7              nothing at this time.  I'm not sure what is


            8              left, but I have nothing at this time except


            9              for to say that I do believe that the


           10              meeting was well -- was run just as well


           11              with a zero at the end of your age as it was


           12              with a nine and I just want to say you are


           13              doing a great job.  Thanks.


           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.


           15              Mr. Courtright.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Very quickly.  Kay,


           17              if every year we do this with the paving if


           18              you can ask them could they get us a paving


           19              list and we can leave it off here and people


           20              know if their is street is going to be get


           21              paved or not, going to get paved because I


           22              think we all every year say we would like to


           23              see the street get paved we'd ask for it to


           24              gave paid and usually they don't.  So it


           25              they could give us a list and leave it off






            1              and the people will know if their street is


            2              going to be get paved or not.


            3                      Smith Place, that's been a problem


            4              for a couple of years now and I thought,


            5              Kay, that we had sent a letter out.


            6                      MS. GATELLI: That went twice


            7              already.  They were over there twice


            8              already.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I spoke to her the


           10              other day --


           11                      MS. EVANS: Yeah, but the residents


           12              say they have never seen them there.


           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Who went over?  Who


           14              went over?


           15                      MS. GATELLI: Seitzinger and Brazil.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Can we ask


           17              Mr. Seitzinger and Mr. Brazil to send us --


           18                      MS. GARVEY: I have asked that about


           19              three times now.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Well, whatever they


           21              discovered.


           22                      MS. GARVEY: The last time they were


           23              going out they were going to get something


           24              to me to let me know whatever happened, but


           25              I haven't heard everything.






            1                      MS. EVANS:  We didn't get anything.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Light a fire under


            3              them for that one.  And one last thing, I


            4              want to ask Mr. Minora, would you tell us


            5              what you believe that we should do with this


            6              fax from the Single Tax Office?  Should we


            7              turn them over to you?


            8                      MR. MINOR: Well, those I understand


            9              he blacked the social security number.


           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Right.


           11                      MR. MINORA: So that's --


           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  There is no harm in


           13              us having it?


           14                      MR. MINORA: -- no problem.  I really


           15              had a serious, serious problems with


           16              receiving that kind of information.  I mean,


           17              there is ramifications from that go all over


           18              the place.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That's why I was


           20              asking.


           21                      MR. MINORA:  Those do not contain


           22              that so, you know, it doesn't have that


           23              problem for you.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.


           25                      MR. MINORA: That's the reason I gave






            1              him back my copy, the copy that he gave me.


            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, that's all I


            3              have.


            4                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, we asked


            5              all of us jointly for the paving list a few


            6              weeks ago, but we didn't get that.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Did we ever get one


            8              since I have been here?


            9                      MS. EVANS: Yes, we did.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: We got one back in maybe


           11              '05 or whatever.


           12                      MS. GATELLI: I've gotten one.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  I think it was last year


           14              we had one.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: We did get one last


           16              year.


           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  All right.  Okay


           18              maybe Mr. McGoff, maybe he can read it off


           19              we get it and everybody will know whether


           20              their street is on there or not.  That's all


           21              I have.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  A couple of


           23              quick things, I am told that there is --


           24              bids were taken and a city engineer was


           25              approved and I do not -- I'm not going to --






            1              I forget the name that was given to me.


            2                      MS. GATELLI: Brian Swanson, that's


            3              his name, Panoni.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Panoni and Associates.


            5              Thank you.  And I just was getting Panini


            6              and I knew that wasn't correct.


            7                      MS. GATELLI: Thinking of that


            8              Italian food, are you?


            9                      MR. MCGOFF: I guess, but there is a


           10              city engineer that has been approved and I'm


           11              sure it will coming before us for an


           12              approval and I am told that they are already


           13              working on some projects.  We did meet in


           14              caucus with Mr. Skantos dealing with the


           15              Keyser Terrace issues and hopefully the new


           16              city engineer will start to work with him on


           17              taking care of some of the issues that are


           18              part of the Keyser Terrace situation and


           19              that this can be resolved in the near


           20              future.


           21                      I will look into the Human


           22              Relation's Commission and it's need for a


           23              solicitor and try and determine when it


           24              meets and what it's purpose is and also why


           25              the need for a solicitor for that particular






            1              commission.


            2                      I do want to say that the rules that


            3              we use in council are not my rules.  The


            4              Rules of Council are voted on by the members


            5              of council and I was not attempting to


            6              sensor Mrs. Evans in any way, I was hoping


            7              that we could move from that issue that was


            8              becoming somewhat volatile and I was simply


            9              asking that we abide by the rules that we


           10              had agreed to.


           11                      And just to Mr. Ellman, I'm sorry to


           12              hear that the streets aren't good for bike


           13              riding, I just got one and now you have me


           14              afraid to go out and actually ride the bike


           15              in the city and please let me know if there


           16              are any appropriate cycling areas so that I


           17              don't hurt myself, not that that won't


           18              happen anyhow.


           19                      And I know we are sending a letter


           20              about the South Side Complex, that is an


           21              interesting question as far as replacement


           22              and usage and in addition to the letter I


           23              will try and find -- see if I can receive a


           24              quicker answer than through the letter and


           25              see if I can get some response from people.






            1              And that is all I have for this evening.


            2              Thank you.


            3                      MS. GARVEY: I just have one question


            4              for Mrs. Evans regarding the motion that you


            5              made for the $20,000 you asked for that to


            6              come out of the contingency fund for the


            7              city; right?


            8                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-B. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           10              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.


           11              74, 1993, (AS AMENDED), ENTITLED "THE ZONING


           12              ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF SCRANTON", TO PLAN






           15              CHANGING THE MAP FOR A PARCEL OF LAND


           16              BOUNDED ON THE SOUTH BY THE 600 BLOCK OF


           17              VINE STREET, ON THE EAST BY 500 AND 600


           18              BLOCKS OF DRESSLER COURT, ON THE NORTH BY


           19              THE 500 BLOCK OF PIN STREET AND ON THE WEST




           21              FROM R-3 (MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL)


           22              TO INS-G (GENERAL INSTITUTIONAL.)


           23                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I will


           24              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be


           25              introduced into it's proper committee.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            2                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


            3                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question.


            4                      MS. EVANS: Now, this is the land


            5              that, in fact, will was sold by the Scranton


            6              school district yesterday?


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  That is my belief.


            8                      MS. EVANS: That's what I'm -- yeah,


            9              that's what I'm hoping.  I just wanted to be


           10              certain that this wasn't a different or


           11              additional piece.


           12                      MS. GATELLI:  It's just being


           13              introduced; right?


           14                      MS. EVANS: Yes.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those


           16              in favor signify by saying aye.


           17                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           19                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           22              ayes have it and so moved.


           23                      MS. GARVEY: We need a motion.


           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes, we need a motion


           25              for a public hearing I believe.






            1                      MS. GARVEY: Correct.  We have a


            2              motion to have a public hearing and notify


            3              the Planning Commissions.


            4                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll make that motion.


            5                      MS. EVANS: Second.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: All those in signify by


            7              saying aye.


            8                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           13              ayes have it and so moved.


           14                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           15              AN ORDINANCE - ESTABLISHING A "NO PARKING"




           17              AVENUE (S.R. 6011) FROM MULBERRY STREET


           18              SOUTH 265 FEET TO ALLOW FOR SIGHT DISTANCE


           19              FOR A PROPOSED DRIVEWAY BY MR. EUGENE O'NEIL


           20              FOR A PROPERTY LOCATED AT 319-321 HARRISON


           21              AVENUE.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           23              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be


           24              introduced into it's proper committee.


           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.






            1                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All


            3              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            4                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            6                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            9              ayes have it and so moved.


           10                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D - FOR INTRODUCTION


           11              -- there is a typographical error on this.


           12              I says it's an ordinance on paper, but I'll


           13              read it as a resolution because that's what


           14              it is.


           15                      FOR INTRODUCTION - A RESOLUTION -


           16              ACCEPTING THE GIFT OF A POLICE VEHICLE, VIN


           17              NUMBER 2G1WF55K059191621 FROM POLICE OFFICER


           18              JOSEPH J. HARRIS FOR USE IN THE CITY'S FLEET




           20              CITY AND OFFICER HARRIS.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be


           23              introduced into it's proper committee.


           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            2              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            8              ayes have it and so moved.


            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           10              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND








           14              OF OFFICER HARRIS' "PRIVATE CRUISER" AS


           15              DEFINED HEREIN.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           17              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be


           18              introduced into it's proper committee.


           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           22              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.






            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


            3              ayes have it and so moved.


            4                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -


            5              A RESOLUTION - ACCEPTING THE GIFT OF A


            6              POLICE VEHICLE, VIN NUMBER 2G1WF55K349356334




            8              IN THE CITY'S FLEET PURSUANT TO A LEASE




           10              IANNUZZO.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


           12              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be


           13              introduced into it's proper committee.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           17              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           18                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           23              ayes have it and so moved.


           24                      MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION --


           25              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND












            4              OF OFFICER IANNUZZO'S "PRIVATE CRUSIER" AS


            5              DEFINED HEREIN.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            7              entertain a motion that 5-G be introduced


            8              into it's proper committee.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           12              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           13                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           15                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           18              ayes have it and so moved.


           19                      MS. GARVEY: 5-H. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           20              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AN






           23              AGREEMENT NO. 040809-E WITH COMMONWEALTH OF












            2              COMMONWEALTH'S INCURRED COSTS FOR


            3              CONSTRUCTION, UTILITIES AND RIGHT-OF-WAY.


            4                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            5              entertain a motion that 5-H into it's proper


            6              committee.


            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


           10              those in favor signify by saying aye.


           11                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           15                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           16              ayes have it and so moved.


           17                      MS. GARVEY: 5-I. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           18              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE HUMAN






           21              SERVICES WITH MARK T. MCGRATH, ESQUIRE TO


           22              ACT AS ITS SOLICITOR FOR ONE (1) YEAR


           23              BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2008 THROUGH DECEMBER


           24              31, 2008, AT THE RATE OF NINETY-FIVE


           25              ($95.00) DOLLARS PER HOUR.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll


            2              entertain a motion that 5-I be introduced


            3              into it's proper committee.


            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?


            7                      MS. EVANS: I do have some


            8              information about the Human Relations


            9              Commission.  It meets quarterly in City


           10              Council Chambers or the Governor's Room and


           11              the commission is comprised of the following


           12              individuals:  Robert Brown, Daniel Geralto,


           13              Michael Hanley, Richard Leonari, Robert


           14              Lesh, the Reverend Reginald McLane, Jane


           15              Oppenheim, Margaret Ruddy, Beverly Schmidt,


           16              Diana Statsman and Jane Yoaman's.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?


           18                      MS. GATELLI: Yes, I would just ask


           19              that you get some more information why we


           20              need a solicitor maybe there is a case.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: I will do that.


           22                      MS. GATELLI: Please.


           23                      MS. EVANS: And how that will be


           24              paid, in other words, obviously, it must be


           25              coming from the city's operating budget.






            1                      MR. MCGOFF: I'll write that down or


            2              I will forget.


            3                      MS. GATELLI: You're only 40, why are


            4              you forgetting?


            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Early onset.  Anyone


            6              else on the question?  That is 5-I.  All


            7              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            8                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.


            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


           10                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The


           13              ayes have it and so moved.


           14                      MS. GARVEY: 5-J. FOR INTRODUCTION -


           15              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF THE


           16              2007 TAX CLAIMS AND THE ANTICIPATED 2008 TAX




           18              CITY OF SCRANTON, AND AUTHORIZING THE


           19              EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT OF SALE AND






           22              SERVICES, INC AND THE LAW FIRM OF ELLIOTT,


           23              GREENLEAF AND BALABAN RELATING TO THE


           24              TRANSACTION.


           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I will






            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-J be


            2              introduced into it's proper committee.


            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.


            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All


            6              those in favor signify by saying aye.


            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.


            8                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.


            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.


           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?


           11                      MS. EVANS: No.


           12                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so


           13              moved.


           14                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO


           15              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A.




           17              COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT - FOR ADOPTION -


           18              RESOLUTION NO. 20, 2008 - OFFICIALS FOR THE


           19              CITY OF SCRANTON TO ENTER INTO A LOAN


           20              AGREEMENT AND MAKE A LOAN FROM THE




           22              PROGRAM, PROJECT NO. 07-150.15 IN AN AMOUNT


           23              NOT TO EXCEED $250,000.00 TO MTM REAL ESTATE




           25                      MR. MCGOFF: What is the






            1              recommendation of the Chairperson for the


            2              Committee on Community Development?


            3                      MS. FANUCCI: As chairperson for the


            4              Committee on Community Development, I


            5              recommend final passage of Item 7-A.


            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Second.  On the


            7              question?


            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.


            9                      MS. EVANS:  No.


           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.


           11                      MS. GATELLI.  Yes.


           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.


           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.


           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.


           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.


           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.


           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  I hereby declare Item


           18              7-A legally and lawfully adopted.  I ask for


           19              a motion to adjourn.


           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.


           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
















            2                     C E R T I F I C A T E




            4        I hereby certify that the proceedings and


            5   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the


            6   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the


            7   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true


            8   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my


            9   ability.







                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI

           13                       OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER