1 SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING
7 Tuesday, January 22, 2008
10 Council Chambers
11 Scranton City Hall
12 340 North Washington Avenue
13 Scranton, Pennsylvania
CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER
2 CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:
MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT
6 MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT
MS. JANET E. EVANS
9 MS. SHERRY FANUCCI
MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT
12 MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK
MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK
15 MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR
1 (Pledge of Allegiance recited and
2 moment of reflection observed.)
3 MR. MCGOFF: Roll call.
4 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Evans.
5 MS. EVANS: Here.
6 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. Courtright.
7 MR. COURTRIGHT: Here.
8 MR. COOLICAN: Ms. Fanucci.
9 MS. FANUCCI: Here.
10 MR. COOLICAN: Ms. Gatelli.
11 MS. GATELLI: Here.
12 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. McGoff.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Here. Dispense with the
14 reading of the minutes.
15 MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER. 3-A.
16 CONTROLLER'S REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDED
17 DECEMBER 31, 2007.
18 MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?
19 If not, received and filed.
20 MS. GARVEY: 3-B. MINUTES OF THE
21 COMPOSITE PENSION BOARD MEETING HELD ON
22 DECEMBER 19, 2007.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?
24 If not, received and filed.
25 MS. GARVEY: That's it for third
2 MR. MCGOFF: Before we go to
3 citizens' participation, is there anyone who
4 has any --
5 MS. EVANS: Just two quick
6 announcements. First, in the 2300 block of
7 North Washington Avenue as of about the last
8 45 minutes a tractor trailer has taken a
9 tree down in that block. I have heard it's
10 been uprooted as well. There may be power
11 lines involved, possibly Marywood University
12 will be dismissed early, and I just would
13 like to ask that everyone would avoid
14 driving or walking in that area this evening
15 until the proper measures have been taken.
16 Also, West Scranton Wrestling
17 Invader-Mat boosters are sponsoring a night
18 at the races at Saints Peter and Paul
19 Russian Orthodox Church on Academy Street in
20 West Scranton this Saturday, January 26th at
21 7:00 p.m. All proceeds benefit West
22 Scranton wrestlers and admission to the
23 night at the races is $10.00. Tickets can
24 be purchased at the door and admission
25 includes food, soda, beer and coffee and, of
1 course, one must be 21 to be admitted. Hope
2 to see you there.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else? Robert
5 MR. NEVEROSKI: Ladies and
6 gentlemen, Attorney Minora. As you recall
7 awhile back, I was down with the Hill
8 Neighborhood Association running a
9 fundraiser. We sent over 500 letters to the
10 business community and that and the response
11 was -- I guess the city is having trouble,
12 but nobody wants to donate, so we are in the
13 same boat, people don't want to donate, and
14 I'm surprised at the response we got from
15 sending all five letters to the community
16 but, anyway, that's it. The people at the
17 Himalayan Association generously donated
18 $675.00. Farley, who always supported us,
19 gave $25.00. Janet and Dave Evans gave
20 $50.00 and Penn Security Bank gave $250.00
21 so at this time I would like to present the
22 city council a check for $1,000.00 made
23 payable to the Scranton Police Force Canine
24 Fund, if I may.
25 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,
1 Mr. Neverosky.
2 MR. NEVEROSKY: With that said, thank
3 you, ladies and gentlemen.
4 MS. EVANS: Thank you. We can always
5 count on the Hill Neighborhood Association.
6 MR. MCGOFF: Yes. Thank you very
8 MR. NEVEROSKY: My pleasure.
9 MR. MCGOFF: The next speaker is
10 Andrew Porter.
11 MR. PORTER: Happy New Year. Andrew
12 Porter, citizen of Scranton. This past
13 weekend Martin Luther King, the Martin
14 Luther King celebration throughout the city
15 of Scranton was very impressive, very good.
16 I found absolutely nothing wrong with it.
17 You find something wrong with things -- when
18 you find -- when you look for bad things you
19 find bad things, but Martin Luther King was
20 a good man just like the fireman who passed
21 away recently, a good man. We need to see
22 black firemen put in our fires and savings
23 people's lives, also. That's what Martin
24 Luther King stood for.
25 Martin Luther King is the moral
1 conscience of America and I and you, as
2 citizens of Scranton, are the moral
3 conscience of Scranton. And so what we need
4 to do now is we need to work together, let
5 me just back up for just a second and say
6 that Martin Luther King, who is he and where
7 did he come from? Actually, Martin Luther
8 King is a descendant of slaves like myself.
9 Can you believe at one point in time that
10 the backbone of this country was actually
11 slaves for over a 300-year period in this
12 country. Coming out of slavery during the
13 civil rights movement we had people like
14 Martin Luther King who risked his life not
15 just for people that looked like me, but for
16 all of those. Now, this celebration this
17 past weekend was a wonderful thing for the
18 city to have had a response from or be a
19 part of it. It's a great thing, but it's
20 only one day. It's only one day. It's only
21 two days, all right, a lot of people were
22 there, there were some people there and a
23 lot of dignitaries there, preachers, a few
24 preachers, a few reverends and a few rabbis
25 in a couple of days does not make for a good
1 year, does not make for a good year, that
2 was one or two days. We need to duplicate
4 Me as a business person, I come to
5 you again and I say that I need assistance.
6 I come with a plan because you say that we
7 need a plan and my thing is that take the
8 plan and take a look at it, and see if it
9 has some viability to it and let's do
10 something with it. Help me. This is what
11 we need to do, we need to help each other.
12 Now, it's a political miracle that
13 stands before you on the city council and
14 Mr. McGoff and maybe a year or even less
15 than a year how he can come from an
16 appointment to -- and it has nothing to do
17 with the mayor, it actually has nothing to
18 do with the mayor because, see, the mayor
19 did not elect Mr. McGoff, the people elected
20 him, and what our father says is that we
21 have to come together as a people. These
22 good people up here in the city council
23 lacking of a person that looks like myself,
24 I mean, hey, at one point in time you didn't
25 have women, now you got three up there, and
1 they are all friends and they are all happy
2 and they are trying to do the right thing
3 and if they are not doing the right thing
4 then we as citizens need to step in and make
5 sure certain that they do the right thing
6 and so people make mistakes, but we help
7 each other and we try to help each other
8 correct those mistakes, all right? We try
9 to bring people into the fold not remove
10 them from the fold and so I come to you with
11 good news today that Scranton is the chosen
12 city, forget the chosen people, Scranton is
13 the chosen city, all right, and we have to
14 work together as a people, all right? Our
15 firemen, people like Martin Luther King,
16 people who risked their lives each and every
17 day who don't waiver back and forth, who
18 every time that you see them they are always
19 the same, their posture is the same. We
20 need to posture ourselves as people. We
21 need to start loving each other.
22 One thing I can remember about
23 Martin Luther King and one of the things
24 that I remember him saying is that when he
25 went into those wards and seen those babies
1 in incubators and those innocent kids, they
2 didn't know where they were white, black,
3 green, yellow, Chinese or whatever. They
4 didn't know that. We taught them that. We
5 thought them that. Programs were put in
6 place to compensate for some of the things
7 that were done to the people like my
8 ancestors, people that look like me, grants,
9 and so on and so forth, the complexion of
10 those things have changed, but let's look at
11 what it is that we have today that we can
12 work with and we have each other. We are a
13 great city if you are inclusive of all
14 people. If you are not, you lose. You take
15 the best qualified people, you take people
16 that got ideas. You also take people that
17 want to bring business into this city. I
18 propose that the business that I bring to
19 you would start with 8 to 10 jobs in opening
20 day. These are the kind of things that we
21 want. We need to nourish our children. We
22 need to, Britney Spears, they are walking
23 around in forms of young men and young woman
24 and what do we do? We are going to laugh
25 and poke fun at them? No, we are not going
1 to do that, we are going to love them. We
2 are going to show them where they are wrong.
3 We are going to bring them to the levels of
4 where they need to be, and this is what
5 Martin wanted, and I think this is what we
6 all want as a city, greatness in our city,
7 not for me, for you, for God.
8 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much, Mr.
9 Porter. Andy Sbaraglia.
10 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,
11 citizen of Scranton. Fellow Scrantonians,
12 on your 6-B, "Providing for the acceptance
13 and dedication of Jamestown Way Circle and
14 Park Edge Lane. Are you proposing to spend
15 $1.00 to buy a million dollars worth of
16 liability? This project I think was done in
17 1994. It's an old project. Now, we are
18 coming up where you don't even know if the
19 sewer systems are separated up there. The
20 drainage from the waste. Now, you are going
21 to spend a buck and have us pay for God know
22 how much money to rip up all of them streets
23 which they are required to do now. This is
24 isn't a new project, this is an old project
25 and as an old project they must have been
1 taking care of the streets themselves
2 because we would've already own them. Since
3 we don't own them we have to look to why
4 they want us to own them now other than the
5 fact that relieves them of a lot, a lot of
6 responsibility like plowing, taking care of
7 streets, but the sewer system is the worst
8 because if they haven't already done it, we
9 got to rip up every street up there and put
10 in drainage and that's going to cost a lot
11 of money and this is what they are giving us
12 for a buck. To tell you the truth, it's not
13 worth it. Their buck is one thing, but to
14 us to spend a buck to require that's
15 ridiculous. It's just something you have --
16 you have to do an in-depth study of that
17 project and why at this time they want to
18 give it to us, sell it to us, well, actually
19 it's a gift, one buck to pay for it isn't
20 exactly a huge amount, but this project
21 definitely should be looked into very well.
22 I looked at some of the dates on that,
23 CECO think did it over there in 1994, some
24 of the dates on it, on that project. We are
25 talking about 208 today. They see a huge
1 expense coming, and I don't blame them, I
2 would try to dump it as soon as I could,
3 too, they should have dumped it a long time
4 ago and not when we are ready to have -- to
5 pay to rip all of these streets out. This
6 is not a very nice project and if you look
7 at the legislation themselves you see we are
8 getting nothing, all we are getting is
9 liability. And to give a buck for
10 $1 million worth of liability definitely
11 isn't worth it because that's all you are
12 buying is liability. You are not buying
13 anything really tangible. You got to
14 maintain streets. You got to -- if the
15 sewer system isn't divided we got to pay to
16 divide it and this is what you are getting
17 for your dollar, a lot of expense, so I'd
18 wish look into it a little more before you
19 pass and see how much liability you are
20 actually getting with this dollar, how much
21 are we actually buying? There is no way for
22 me to tell you because I don't even know if
23 the streets are up to par, if they are built
24 to specifications because this project was
25 done long ago and it's their own property.
1 They must have been maintaining it and if
2 they were they probably don't even meet our
4 Up there at Tripps Park we haven't
5 accepted that project for a lot of reasons,
6 but there we are. We didn't accept it
7 because we knew it was it would cost the
8 city a lot of money to make them -- take
9 that project up to code. This other project
10 that just comes before you a new project,
11 hey, we'll sell it to you for a buck. All
12 you're buying is liability and that's the
13 sad part about it, you don't even know what
14 the fire system is up there like even if it
15 was built to code. God only knows, because
16 apparently it was a private development for
17 a lot of years and now they want to make it
18 sort of public or they want you to make it
19 public and that's not quite right.
20 I suggest that you look into it, ask
21 the city engineer and the planning
22 commission and everything that went with
23 this to see exactly what was done at that
24 time, I mean, for a buck and you got time.
25 I mean, there is no reason why we have to
1 rush into this. If everything is up to par,
2 fine. If it isn't up to par then it should
3 be corrected before you take responsibility
4 for it because that's the only way you can
5 actually protect the taxpayers of Scranton
6 and, believe me, they need taxpayers, they
7 need protection. Thank you.
8 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,
9 Mr. Sbaraglia. Ozzie Quinn.
10 MR. QUINN: Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'
11 Association. Judy, do you have that list
12 for me for the UDAG and the -- it's been
13 three months?
14 MS. GATELLI: I called her today and
15 she said that I should ask the president.
16 MR. QUINN: Ask who?
17 MS. GATELLI: Ask the president to
18 request it.
19 MR. QUINN: The president to request
21 MS. GATELLI: The president of
23 MR. QUINN: Mr. McGoff, will you ask
25 MR. MCGOFF: Yes, I will.
1 MR. QUINN: Thank you. Tell her I'd
2 appreciate it if you could get it this week,
3 I don't want to continue on, okay? The
4 relationship here that I want to talk about
5 5-I, Mrs. Fanucci, you are the CDBG
6 cochairperson, the chairperson; right?
7 These -- what we are doing here is we are
8 taking money from the CDBG program and going
9 way back, which I spoke about, where this
10 money is coming from and it was approved by
11 past councils, approved and never executed,
12 all right? What are these projects? We
13 mentioned project numbers. Project number
14 92-292, okay? Project so and so, $50,000
15 from project 96204 and you know what it
16 amounts to $60,712.34. What for?
17 MS. EVANS: Mr. Quinn, I can give
18 this to you --
19 MR. QUINN: Is it all right if I come
20 up there?
21 MR. MCGOFF: Go ahead.
22 MS. EVANS: -- and it explains
23 exactly what projects the money was taken
25 MR. QUINN: Thank you. See, this is
1 something we don't know about and we
2 wouldn't know about unless we had Channel 61
3 and, actually, this was taken from historic
4 preservation revolving loan from
5 computerized map of the building, central
6 city literally, Jackson Street playground,
7 senior craftsmen shop and, you know what,
8 total $60,700 for what? Tree planting.
9 Tree planting. Tree planting. We have
10 people who can just about make it today in
11 Scranton, half of our people -- half of our
12 people are making under $31,000 and you want
13 to pass an ordinance that nobody knows about
14 except Mrs. Evans.
15 MS. FANUCCI: Are you speaking to
17 MR. QUINN: No, she is out of order.
18 MS. FANUCCI: That's why I asked.
19 MR. QUINN: She is out of order.
20 MR. MCGOFF: You did ask address
22 MS. FANUCCI: You did ask me the
24 MR. QUINN: But, she didn't answer.
25 MS. FANUCCI: I didn't have time to
1 answer. I was waiting to see who wanted me
2 to answer.
3 MR. QUINN: Well, you can't answer
4 it, that's good --
5 MR. MCGOFF: Go ahead, Mr. Quinn.
6 MR. QUINN: But these projects,
7 nobody knows where they are coming from,
8 Mrs. Evans knows where they are coming from,
9 do you know where they are coming from? No.
10 MS. GATELLI: We all have the same
12 MS. FANUCCI: We have the same --
13 MR. QUINN: Well, how come it's not
14 up here? How come we don't know? The only
15 way we will know, you are asking us to pass
16 an introduction of a resolution for $60,000
17 and you are asking us without the knowledge
18 of where that money is coming from and it's
19 going into tree planting.
20 MS. FANUCCI: We are not asking you
21 to pass it.
22 MR. QUINN: That's bizarre. That's
23 bizarre, and I take issue with that because
24 if people who are burning their fuel like
25 it's going out of the chimney, a lot of
1 people haven't even had their chimneys
2 necessary cleaned because they can't afford
3 it. A lot of people their houses are drafts
4 because there is not enough money going in
5 the low income housing, the people that own
6 housing that is low income and you want to
7 plant trees, what are they for? Tree
8 planting. Come on. What are they for,
9 Mrs. Fanucci? Do you agree with this?
10 MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Quinn, what are you
12 MR. QUINN: Why are you taking --
13 this money here is part of the money that I
14 ask for three months ago from Mrs. Gatelli,
15 okay? Now, they are taking the money, some
16 of the money and they are taking out of
17 these projects and they are taking it for
18 tree planting.
19 MR. MCGOFF: Correct.
20 MR. QUINN: Why don't they use the
21 money to help the people in this city? I'm
22 sure Mr. and Mrs. Smith over in South Side
23 who is huddled up there trying to keep warm
24 is worried about tree planting. My
25 goodness, you people should be ashamed for
1 even passing it, for even bringing this up
2 for introduction. We didn't even -- we
3 don't even know unless we find this out
4 tonight. That is shameful, I resent it, and
5 the poor people, too, you got -- and all
6 those introduction tonight, all of those
7 resolutions, ordinances from A to H, you
8 know with taxes, taxes, taxes, taxes, you
9 know, and then you wouldn't to go tree
10 planting. Come on. Let's get our facts in
11 order, our priorities.
12 We are living in a very, very bad
13 situation here in the City of Scranton.
14 People are freezing, people don't have
15 enough money tougher health or for food.
16 Let's get it together. As president you
17 should take the ball on this, you said you
18 were going to have knowledge of this and
19 explain it to the people.
20 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.
21 Mr. Bolus.
22 MR. BOLUS: Good evening, Council.
23 Bob Bolus, Scranton. On the agenda, I'm
24 looking at 5-D, 5-E, 5-F, you know, this is
25 just taking the city apart here. You know,
1 we are putting more taxes on people we
2 should be cutting them, cutting the millage
3 here against the people, the businesses in
4 this city. We have a refuse over here, we
5 should actually be going after the
6 landfills, the leachate line that comes down
7 here, as a host community we should be
8 charging per gallon alongside with what the
9 sewer authority charges to cut our costs
10 here. We have a lot of other areas of
11 revenue out there and nobody is bothering to
12 loo, but it's harming the people. You know,
13 the businesses are getting hammered here,
14 you know, you are on net income, I mean,
15 come on, there is enough going on here. The
16 mayor, and the reason I came here today, is
17 72 percent of the people voted for a
18 recovery plan, 28 percent against. I'm glad
19 I was part of the 28 percent. 100 percent
20 of the people want Chris Doherty now if this
21 plan does go through to put his money where
22 his mouth is and that's in the City of
23 Scranton, not into Nay Aug, not into his
24 private little projects, not taking care of
25 the University of Scranton, the KOZ's, the
1 nonprofits. If you look here we have a
2 garbage fee. I've come here many times in
3 the past questioning why we don't impose a
4 fee unilaterally right across the city. It
5 affects residents, business KOZ's and
6 nonprofits, it takes some creativity to be
7 done, but nobody in the city seems to want
8 to do it, so we climb over the dollars to
9 get at the pennies. It's time now for this
10 council to do something.
11 Tonight I would like to ask this
12 council to put back the million five that
13 you took out of the golf course fund plus
14 interest, the remaining million five is to
15 be put in a trust so it can't be touched
16 again. Chris Doherty has criticized the
17 unions, the fire department, the police
18 department and everybody else saying the
19 city is where it is because they have
20 created the problem. To the contrary, they
21 protect us here. The problem is Chris
22 Doherty is administration, getting raises,
23 doing the things that they do that's adverse
24 to running a solid business. He is a
25 businessman, his business makes money
1 because he knows where to put it, where to
2 take it from. Here is taking from the
3 seniors, the private sector people, the
4 businesses that put interest in here and he
5 is not looking at anyone else. You need a
6 plan, you need to put a fee on everyone, you
7 the University is taking over the City of
8 Scranton, people don't like to hear it,
9 well, look it, they can't put enough people
10 in there that's how many people are coming
11 there. That's how much money they are
12 making in their nonprofit, they are taking
13 millions and they are taking the city over,
14 and it's the responsibility of this council
15 to start looking out for the people in the
16 City of Scranton by imposing a fee
17 unilaterally in this city, by taking the
18 $1.5 million plus interest and protecting it
19 so it can't be squandered as it was last
20 year, making the mayor, if this recovery
21 plan passes, to take the million five back
22 and put it back into the golf course fee, it
23 belongs to the people in this city, it
24 belonged in parks and recreation. We
25 squandered it. It's time for us to be
1 accountable and put it back where it
2 belongs. I championed those fights to
3 protect this money and this council took a
4 million five last year and give it to Chris
5 Doherty while he could squander it. He
6 didn't put it into the police department, he
7 didn't put it into the fire department, he
8 didn't put it anywhere else but into it's
9 own private sandbox, and it's time that it
10 has to stop, and that's why I'm here today.
11 I'm here a resident of this city, proud to
12 be a resident of this city, not proud of
13 what's happening to this city.
14 Our tax base is decreased and the
15 only way you are successful is you increase
16 your tax base, not erode it and chase people
17 out of this city, chase businesses out of
18 this city. We are the laughing stock of the
19 country if you really look around what we
20 wee are doing. You can buy a house here for
21 free practically. All other people are paid
22 because they are decrees. We have devalued
23 our area, that's why everybody is coming
24 here buying because it's cheap. We got to
25 get back where we are not cheap, we to got
1 get back to where you pay for what you get
2 and we are not getting what we should be
3 getting in this city. The leachate line,
4 look at putting in windows along the top of
5 the ridges surrounding this community and
6 reduce our electric expense, we could do
7 that. We have the resources, you have the
8 power to do this. This is what Scranton
9 needs. It needs to go in a different
10 direction. We've got to go outside of the
11 box and that's not being done. This man has
12 run this city into the ground, he has
13 demoralized the police department, the fire
14 department. We had an officer in the fire
15 department that gave his life for this city
16 doing his job and now he wants to chop
17 everybody down in those departments. I
18 would say to the mayor, Ray Hayes or anybody
19 else, walk in their shoes every single day.
20 Institute a fitness program. Work out with
21 them everyday, you lead by example and the
22 example we are getting right now is not the
23 example we need to show these young kids
24 today and the businesses that want to come
25 here that we can be progressive, we can be
1 financially straight, we are distressed.
2 Distressed means we are broke, means we
3 cannot run our city, we cannot do what needs
4 to be done. Was that one bell or two bells?
5 MR. MCGOFF: That was the final.
6 MR. BOLUS: Is there more then or is
7 that up?
8 MR. MINORA: You are over your time.
9 MR. MCGOFF: That was it.
10 MR. BOLUS: Oh, I didn't know that.
11 I haven't been around the bell ringing for a
12 long time. Thank you.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Bolus.
14 Mr. Stucker. Jim Stucker.
15 MR. STUCKER: How you doing? Jim
16 Stucker, I live at Market Street. Okay, we
17 have a little problem with the drains, they
18 are all full of leaves, all over the City of
19 Scranton. They are not picking up the
20 leaves anywhere they are supposed to pick
21 up, the city ain't picking them up at all.
22 And up by Market Street there is a place
23 there by the laundry mat they are parking
24 their cars there, there is no sign there,
25 they're parking, there is no signs there.
1 We need a sign of up there no parking.
2 Right next to -- right across the street
3 from Mrs. Rupp's up the top of the hill by
4 the Dixon Laundry Mat. They got a lot of
5 room in the parking lots and they are not
6 parking in the parking lots when they have
7 Mrs. Durr, they have -- there used to be a
8 lot of people that go there and they park in
9 the Taurus Club parking lot and there is no
10 more room in there, they are parking up the
11 street coming down the hill and it's hard
12 time coming down the hill or up the hill, so
13 we've got to have something done there and
14 put a sign or something there no parking.
15 And down by Murphy's Bar, between
16 Murphy's Bar and the barber shop they still
17 didn't cut that grass and weeds there. They
18 still could do that, and they are going to
19 have to do something about it because I used
20 to do it and I'm not doing it no more.
21 We got problem with the buses.
22 People can't -- the one girl fell off the
23 bus the other day. I helped her up,
24 couldn't get the bus to the curb because a
25 car was in the way after nine to the Globe
2 And I need some work. I don't care
3 what kind or I don't care what it is, but I
4 need some work.
5 MR. MCGOFF: Well, we'll look in the
6 parking problems for you.
7 MR. STUCKER: Yeah, because the
8 laundry mat parking lot the city owns it.
9 They still leave the leaves along that
10 middle thing where the cars park, that
11 middle divider, the leaves are on both sides
12 of it and there is a bunch of junk out
13 there, can and bottles, I tried my best to
14 pick them up and they're doing a -- the fire
15 company again and back up there again with
16 the fire company to pick up the garbage and
17 cans because I'm off, I'm off paying the
18 fines off now so I'm happy for that. And
19 our garbage has been picked up a lot, so I'm
20 happy for that.
21 MR. MCGOFF: All right, Jim, thank
22 you very much.
23 MR. STUCKER: And, Tom, I want you to
24 come over and pick me up at -- come over and
25 pick me up and take me home, Tom. He told
1 me to leave it on --
2 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Jim.
3 MR. STUCKER: He told me to leave it
4 on there.
5 MR. MCGOFF: Okay, thank you very
6 much. Pat DeSarno.
7 MR. DESARNO: Thank you. Please bear
8 with me voice tonight. Pat Desarno.
9 Mr. Courtright and Mrs. Evans, and I can
10 assure you that -- I can assure you both,
11 I'm sorry, that it will take a lot more to
12 disparage you in the eyes of the Scranton
13 Fire Department than some insensitive
14 remarks prompted by some sort of sick,
15 convoluted reasoning. We know who has
16 always been there to assure that at the very
17 least we are dealt with fairly. We know who
18 genuinely bore hearts equally as heavy as
19 ours just as we know those who insult us
20 with fane sympathies. I can also assure you
21 that unlike some of the sycophants
22 associated with this administration I take
23 my cues from no one.
24 Mantras abound in this city, and I
25 don't want to rehash things, but in light of
1 some very recent events we are sure to be
2 bombarded by many of them and,
3 unfortunately, they are allowed to be
4 blurted out with no one demanded explanation
5 or elaboration. One definition caught my
6 eye. The writing that is generated and
7 repeated in adoration of deity, how
8 apropros. Mrs. Fanucci, you have invoked
9 these beauties: Investing in the city, no
10 recovery without contracts, and attracting
11 people, qualified people with salary.
12 A comment, if I may. Raises were
13 given to people already working for the city
14 so it appeared to me that those people had
15 already been attracted by the previously
16 lower salary, ergo, no raise should have
17 been necessary. Maybe some day you can work
18 in a 24-hour city somewhere down the line.
19 Now, I have saved my favorite for last,
20 and this one was taken from the council
21 minutes, "It's the number one reasons
22 businesses look at -- how is your
23 entertainment, how is your parks and
24 recreation. First thing that they look at
25 when they are coming it. That's it. First.
1 Number one thing. Whether you like it or
2 not it's the first thing. Number one."
3 Well, I for one am tired of mantras,
4 I want elaborations. I took it upon myself
5 to do some research that I put in the
6 following key words, "What businesses look
7 for when locating or relocating? "
8 Number one, multi-channel merchant
9 said, transportation costs, labor costs.
10 Availability to meet staffing needs.
11 Facilities' costs, state and local
12 government sales.
13 Entrepreneur magazine: Number one,
14 access to markets and customers. Number
15 two, labor pool related to type of business,
16 and there is a little box on that website
17 knowing what to ask it says, "Answering
18 these 22 questions for each of the sights
19 you are considering can help you decide on
20 the best location for your business and
21 neither state or local park system nor a
22 number of entertaining venues were among any
23 of them.
24 Let's do business.com: Incentives,
25 i.e, tax breaks. Cost and quality of local
1 work force.
2 Business Today: Incentives. They
3 actually went as far as saying, "A good work
4 force, transportation system and utilities
5 alone just won't cut it."
6 Now, I -- pardon me. Additionally,
7 I visited the Staubach Corporation website,
8 you know, they are the realtors handling the
9 giant political white elephant commonly
10 known as the Southern Union building. Now,
11 that's a property that should be considered
12 a prime state of the art piece of realty.
13 One would assume that no selling points,
14 large or small, should be overlooked or
15 omitted. The property is easily found and
16 it's on page two. One of those is titled
17 demographics. I clicked on it and I found
18 this, four pages that list population,
19 population change, housing, income, retail
20 sales volume, nothing about parks. And just
21 to be thorough, just to be thorough, I
22 clicked the features link and I found this,
23 there is nine items, seven of which pertain
24 to construction and building amenities. The
25 remaining two features are KOEZ, it says,
1 KIZ, but maybe it means KOZ eligible
2 facility. The secondary remaining is close
3 to new Hilton motel, maybe it's a hotel, and
4 Steamtown Mall. No mention of Nay Aug Park
5 or even the Scranton Cultural Center. You
6 know what, I just had an epiphany, I'm going
7 to contact Miss Susan Ruch, she is the
8 Staubach's point person for the project
9 property and suggest that she add close to
10 Nay Aug Park and the Scranton Cultural
11 Center to the features. I'm sure that will
12 jump start some interest and some offers
13 will probably start rolling in.
14 Now, Mrs. Fanucci, I just cited five
15 sources that show that your parks rant is
16 pretty much nothing more than parrot an
17 dribble, and I challenge you to cite the
18 source of your comments, and if you can't
19 then I suggest that you refrain from
20 uttering anymore catch phrases until you are
21 provided with some back up by those who cue
22 you. I'll give you a week. See you next
23 Tuesday. Thank you.
24 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. DeSarno.
25 Mr. Spindler.
1 MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council,
2 Les Spindler, city resident. Last week I
3 brought in a Supreme Court decision about
4 free speech and Mr. McGoff made a comment
5 after I left that opinion was a different
6 venue and different circumstances. Well,
7 free speech is free speech, it doesn't
8 matter what the venue. The constitution
9 says so and the United States Supreme Court
10 says so and --
11 MR. MINORA: That's incorrect.
12 MR. SPINDLER: -- in the Sunday -- he
13 is out of order, this is my time, I didn't
14 ask his opinion. In the December 16 Doherty
15 Newsletter there is three examples here of
16 free speech by a Chris Kelly and one is a
17 woman from west side that was yelling at her
18 toilet, that case was thrown out. She was
19 swearing at the toilet and she had every
20 right to do so. Another case here a
21 gentleman caught in traffic downtown in the
22 traffic accident got out of his car because
23 he couldn't move, he was swearing everybody
24 around there and nothing was done to the
25 gentleman. Another case here Michigan when
1 a man tipped over in his canoe and the man
2 was arrested, the case went to appeal and
3 the case was overturned, so there is three
4 separate cases where people swearing out in
5 public and it is allowed. Sure, there are
6 restrictions of free speech. You can't go
7 into a crowded theatre and yell fire, that
8 could cause a panic. I don't remember
9 anybody in here causing a panic ever. You
10 can't make threats against anybody, but if
11 somebody wants to come in here and make
12 allegations against a council person they
13 have right every right to do so. If those
14 allegations are false they can be sued for
15 slander, but as far as free speech we have
16 free speech at this podium and the first
17 time I'm told here that I can't say
18 something we'll see you in Federal Court.
19 Next thing, Mrs. Fanucci, a few months
20 ago I said Poochie was closing. The
21 following week you said, no, they're having
22 shows and this and that, well, guess what?
23 If you go by today there is a sign in the
24 window, "Poochie is now closed."
25 So, once again I was right and you
1 were wrong. And another thing about
2 companies moving into the city look at
3 parks, Pat DeSarno stole some of my thunder
4 on this, this is from Entrepreneur magazine,
5 the top five reasons that businesses look at
6 when moving in a city: Work force. Are
7 there another qualified workers to do the
8 job in the area? Number two, facilities.
9 Are there any existing facilities suitable
10 for use. Number three, tax considerations.
11 How much will I be paying in taxes per year
12 and can I get a break? Number four, land
13 availability. If I have to build what is
14 the cost and the availability? Number five,
15 quality of life. Schools, recreation,
16 crime, parks might fall in another five.
17 Number one, Mrs. Fanucci, you don't have a
18 clue. Thank you.
19 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.
20 MR. MINORA: Just so we have it
21 clear, none of the cases he cited have
22 anything to do with a public meeting and
23 forums such as this. The cases cited by
24 Judge Mazzoni and Judge Nealon cite all of
25 the Supreme Court cases and state court
1 court cases that deal with public speaking
2 at a public forum such as this as opposed to
3 out in the open or park or courthouse steps
4 where there is no city business to be done.
5 So, just so we don't have anything
6 completely wrong on the record about the
7 First Amendment, I'd like to say that and if
8 you need these cases I'll be glad to show
9 them to you.
10 MR. MCGOFF: And those are the cases
11 that we have been using as precedent and
12 will continue to. Thank you. Mr. Newcomb.
13 MR. NEWCOMB: Good evening, Council.
14 Happy New Year. I just have a two
15 questions, and you can answer them if you
16 want when I get done with my presentation or
17 if you don't have them this week you can let
18 me know down the road, just a question, I'm
19 definitely here about the recovery plan.
20 When I read it in the paper this morning I
21 know everybody on council has stated their
22 opinion on the recovery plan which I
23 appreciate it, everybody is entitled to
24 their opinion, but I'm going to give you a
25 little bit about mine. The first thing I
1 have is I wrote 7.2 million, it might have
2 been 7.5 so if I wrote it down wrong I
3 apologize, but this morning's paper said
4 that the mayor said he was going to hold 7.2
5 million dollars capped for the health care
6 it said for all employees, city employees.
7 I'd like it know just that mean just the
8 union employees or does it mean all of the
9 employees. I don't know what -- because
10 that definitely makes a big difference in
11 the money to go around, and what I'd like to
12 know, if somebody can answer, how does it
13 reflect me as a taxpayer, me, meaning the
14 taxpayer in the City of Scranton and I'd
15 like to know how does the quality of life
16 issue by giving our police chief $13,000
17 race and our fire chief a $13,000 raise and
18 our fire chief a raise, if we are supposed
19 to be distressed and I'd just like to know
20 to those three questions how does that
21 benefit us as taypayers for coming up with
22 these raises.
23 And as far as the Recovery Plan
24 goes, I'd state it from the go and I'll
25 state it again, when it went in in 2002 I
1 definitely voted against the Recovery Plan
2 and I know 72 percent I think it was in the
3 paper was quoted that they did, but I don't
4 really know how much big of an election turn
5 out it was that day, but the only thing I
6 would have to say now if the election was
7 held tomorrow and you know what you know now
8 would we really vote the same way when we
9 seen all of these raises going to officials
10 and I understand everybody is entitled to a
11 decent raise but you can't tell me that this
12 is a fair situation when the union hasn't
13 got a raise in six years and people are
14 getting a $13,000 raise and there are some
15 people out there working that aren't getting
16 $13,000 because they don't have to pay the
17 $52 I believe if it's under $12,000 for the
18 tax so I think this is definitely unfair and
19 if this does go in are we going to get a
20 break on our taxes because the mayor is
21 supposed to have all of this money.
22 I think this is just a balance.
23 It's hard when you have to balance the
24 budget on the back of the unions and not
25 look at it all of the way around. The only
1 way I think this recovery plan would have
2 been fair is if we start from the top and
3 say we all have to take a piece of the pie
4 here but, unfortunately, that doesn't
5 happen. There is a -- I'm not going to say
6 a name because out of respect I don't do
7 that, I don't abuse people at the podium,
8 but if you look at the salaries there is
9 somebody that started working in this city I
10 believe four years ago and they were in the
11 $30,000 salary price range and as of right
12 now they are in the $80,000 price range.
13 So, boy, that's an awful big salary to jump
14 and the unions out there have not got raises
15 in six years, and the only thing I can say
16 to the unions, and I'll tell you what, I
17 just hope that you do, you know, fight for
18 your rights in Court or whatever, but I
19 think what you have to do, maybe it's a
20 little bit too late now, but I will look
21 into this in the morning, I would definitely
22 look into the same lawyer should never be
23 representing all of the unions together
24 because it's hard to put all of your eggs in
25 one basket. The firemen and the policemen
1 do totally different jobs. I think the
2 unions would be better served if there was
3 one union for the fire -- I'm sorry, one
4 lawyer fr the fire, one representative for
5 the police because that way they will pursue
6 it a little bit stronger, so I do hope that
7 this works out with the recovery plan. I
8 definitely think it unfair for the workers I
9 know Mrs. Fanucci, Mr. McGoff and
10 Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. Courtright and
11 Mrs. Evans they stated, you know, what they
12 believe about the recovery plan and
13 everybody is entitled to their opinion, but
14 I just hope for the citizens of the City of
15 Scranton you have to ask yourselves are you
16 better off now than you were in 2002? If
17 the recovery plan goes in now are you going
18 to get a tax break. You got a 25 percent
19 tax increase which, you know, we understand
20 why, but are just -- an answer to those
21 questions, does the money mean, like I said,
22 that it goes for all employees or just the
23 union, how does it reflect on us as a
24 taxpayer and how is the raises to the police
25 and fire chief at $13,000 a piece benefit
1 our quality of life issues. You can answer
2 them now if anybody has any or at the end I
3 would appreciate it. Thank you.
4 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Newcomb.
5 Sam Patilla.
6 MR. PATILLA: Sam Patilla, Scranton
7 resident, home owner, taxpayer, businessman.
8 Good evening, Mrs. Evans and Mr. Courtright.
9 In reference to Item 5-I, Ozzie, if you put
10 the money that was transferred for the tree
11 planting in conjunction with the blight
12 program that's now underway one would come
13 to a determination that they could use the
14 trees to burn in the barrels to keep them
15 warm once their houses are taken away from
17 Okay, a Lackawanna County profile
18 was handed to me and I would just like to go
19 over that for a bit in reference to the
20 employment and wages by industry sector.
21 Now, these figures come from the US Bureau
22 of Census for 2005. The total county wages
23 for Lackawanna County at that time was
24 $31,674.00. The total for the state itself
25 $39,653.000. That's a $7,982.00 difference
1 between the state and the county and being
2 in Scranton is in the condition, financial
3 dire straights that it is we know Scranton
4 is a lot lower.
5 Now, if you go to the figures on the
6 population, okay, from the age of 0 to 14
7 the county has 34,933 children in that age
8 in 2005. From the ages of 15 to 19 that
9 figure drops to 14,657. That's a big drop,
10 you know, so what that basically tells us is
11 that through elementary school through
12 middle school our children are here, but
13 once they get to high school and the point
14 of graduation they are leaving and they are
15 leaving mainly because, and that leads me
16 right into the recovery plan, because there
17 is nothing here for them. Okay?
18 Now, I have heard all over the radio
19 and the other media, everybody's opinion
20 about the recovery plan, you know, millions
21 of people are out there are giving Doherty
22 credit and I don't think that's true because
23 the foundation for that recovery plan was
24 laid in 2002 by the city administration.
25 The people that first put that forward are
1 the ones that actually laid the ground work.
2 Now, when you put into consideration that
3 under Chris Doherty, you know, there were
4 new hires, raises, and the such, you know,
5 blatant violations of that recovery plan you
6 can't give him credit for where we are today
7 because his blatant actions are the reason
8 that the city has been in such dire
9 straights for the length of time that we
10 have been, you know, had he open and honest
11 negotiations with the unions, the fire, the
12 police and the clerical unions this could
13 have been squashed way back when. You know,
14 a lot of speakers come up to this podium and
15 they speak the truth because they are not in
16 it for financial gain or a self-promotion.
17 You know, when we come up here and we tell
18 you that the NCC operation was going to cost
19 people their homes, you know, it did. When
20 we told you that we are in a recession, we
21 are. You know, all over this great country
22 municipalities are falling at the wayside.
23 Now, if somebody wants to try to portray
24 Scranton as on this great road to recovery
25 when everything around us is crumbling, you
1 know, they are feeding you a box of rocks
2 because it's just not true. You know, we
3 are no better off than we were at this time
4 last year and a lot of that has to do with
5 mismanagement. Mismanagement on the part of
6 city council and rubber stamping issues that
7 were put before them and sent down by that
8 mayor. Rubber stamping and the issues that
9 they are siding with political interest
10 outside of the citizens and the taxpayers
11 within this city, you know, Mrs. Evans, you
12 know it comes from me. It always will be.
13 My first step to recovery of any plan, be it
14 a public government or a business sector is
15 cutbacks. No where in this nation has
16 anybody stood forward and said, look, we
17 have to cut government, we have to cut this.
18 You want to get on the recovery you cut it
19 back, you know, you don't give out raises.
20 You know, and it's kind of strange to me
21 that the fire chief and chief of police get
22 raises weeks before the recovery plan is
23 announced. You know, it's just another
24 ploy, it's just another attempt to pull the
25 wool over the citizens eyes, you know.
1 Thank you for your time.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.
3 Bill Jackowitz.
4 MR. JACKOWITZ: Mr. President, city
5 council members. I passed out some out some
6 Lackawanna County profile status sheets to
7 every council member and also the attorney
8 and Kay. I find this to be very, very
9 interesting especially since our economic
10 development chairperson keeps telling us how
11 great we are doing and how we are getting --
12 the city is making, you know, citizens are
13 making money, so on and so forth.
14 Carbondale, Blakely, Dunmore and Scranton is
15 the largest parts of Lackawanna County,
16 Scranton being the county seat and being the
17 largest city within Lackawanna County.
18 Okay, our per capita personnel income for
19 the county is $31, 291.00, for the city is
20 lower, but for the county is $31,291.00.
21 For the State of Pennsylvania overall it's
22 $34,937.00, which is a $3,646.00 less per
23 capita personal income.
24 Median household income: $34,438.00
25 for the county, in Scranton less. For the
1 State of Pennsylvania, $40,106.00. A
2 $5,668.00 less than what they are making in
3 the rest of this state.
4 Median family income: $44,949.00,
5 in Scranton less. For Pennsylvania
6 $49,184.00. $4,235.00 less than anybody
7 else in the State of Pennsylvania average.
8 Major employe, pay attention to this
9 one on the first page, people: School
10 District of Scranton, Allied Services
11 Foundation, Lackawanna County, Cinram
12 Manufacturing, that's the only one that pays
13 taxes. Community Medical Center, the Moses
14 Taylor Hospital, University of Scranton,
15 Mercy Hospital, Bank of America, they pay
16 taxes and Marywood University.
17 And we go to the other side:
18 Industrial sector. Educational services,
19 health care and social assistance, public
20 administration, manufacturing and health
21 care and social assistance, health care and
22 social assistance, educational services,
23 health care and social assistance, finance
24 and insurance and education and services.
25 That's what these people provide for us, and
1 that's the industrial side, people. Okay?
2 Now, the interesting part is:
3 Population, ages 0 to 14, 34,933.
4 Miraculously from ages 15 to 19, 14,667.
5 That's 20,276 citizens who have gone. Where
6 have they gone and why have they gone? They
7 have gone because if you turn the page to
8 the second page that I provided each and
9 every one of you with it will tell you why
10 they are gone. Total: The NIC Industrial
11 Sector, employment and wages by industry,
12 total, all industries in the county, county
13 wage $31,674.00. State, $39,653.00, again,
14 $7,932.00 less than anybody else in the
15 state and the city is even worse.
16 Utilities, somebody working for a
17 utilities company, county $69,269.00. State
18 $86,922.00, a difference of $17,653.00 and
19 you want to know why people are leaving
20 here, but yet we are told over and over and
21 every week that we are doing good because we
22 got restaurants, we've got the Pooch parlor
23 who is no longer in business. We talk about
24 arts and entertainment. Arts, design,
25 entertainment, sports and media occupations,
1 $27,409 for the county. $39,976.00 for the
2 state. $12,567.00 less, but yet our
3 entertainment is going to bring knew
4 business into this city? Ridiculous,
5 stupid, without a doubt, and now if you
6 listen to the campaigns the Democrats and
7 Republicans, Hillary Clinton, John McCain,
8 guess what their slogan is, people, it's the
9 economy, stupid, they are all saying, all
10 over the news broadcast, but yet when I said
11 it Mrs. Fanucci accused me of calling the
12 citizens of Scranton stupid. So, maybe you
13 need to contact Hillary Clinton's campaign,
14 and John McCain's campaign and give them the
15 same advice, they shouldn't be calling the
16 people of the United States stupid because
17 it's the economy, stupid.
18 MR. MCGOFF: David Dobson.
19 MR. DOBSON: Good evening, Council,
20 Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton. Serious
21 consideration and review is needed before
22 altering or accepting projects for
23 adaptation and ordinance. These projects if
24 not properly reviewed can levy undue expense
25 on our residents as Andy Sbaraglia and Ozzie
1 has pointed out tonight. In a case of
2 trees, we have a serious gypsy moth problem
3 up at Nay Aug Park. Every year I see leaves
4 eaten right in half from gypsy moths and to
5 my knowledge there has never been an
6 exterminator contacted. I have some
7 experience with that line of work, my father
8 was the manager in a large extermination
9 branch in that industry and most surveys and
10 estimates are done for free, so there is no
11 need, all you could do is ask.
12 We have no money for Channel 61 even
13 though they provided ten years of great
14 service and, unfortunately, every now and
15 then they have do cover something that's
16 less than desirable to have on the air, but
17 many people see who knows what they are
18 taking about and who don't anyway.
19 With these trees, why can't we start
20 contacting Vo-Tech schools and Boy Scouts
21 groups and so forth and possibly they could
22 be willing to volunteer to even do this,
23 even community service from people that
24 could be forgiven for a petty crimes. We
25 need to seriously consider our priorities
1 and we can weather the problems that are in
2 this country, but it has to start from the
3 bottom and we have to exercise care in our
4 expenditures and thank you and have a good
6 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,
7 Mr. Dobson. Mr. Dobson was the last speaker
8 on the list, so is there anyone else who
9 wishes to speak please come to the podium.
10 MS. HUMPHREY: We shall overcome.
11 MR. MCGOFF: Please state your name
12 for the record.
13 MS. HUMPHREY: Phyllis Bernadette
14 Fatima Yasmine, also given the name Mary. I
15 have been sent by I am who am, the God of
16 Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of
17 Jacob to shed the light of peace and
18 reconciliation to our town, our city and our
19 country. I am very indebted to the gifts
20 God has given to me and to my bishops and my
21 and my priest and the City of Scranton.
22 Even through the cross there is glory. I
23 love my fire department, and I do love my
24 police department and my mission is to
25 separate the sheep from the goat and to
1 expose many people over the next couple of
2 weeks, which is going to be very hard and
3 very difficult, but I can also tell them to
4 just to reconcile, to forgive, go to
5 confession and change their lives.
6 About a month ago, first I want to
7 tell you it's really hard. When my children
8 were young I had to flee with my children to
9 Syracuse and Christmas Day I was at church
10 and my uncle went upstairs and there was a
11 fire, and when I came home I thought bombs
12 were all over the place or something, all
13 the windows and the curtains were flowing,
14 and they saved my children's life. It was
15 the first fire at Christmas time. Many a
16 time the fire department came over to
17 Valleyview, to Townhouse and about a month
18 ago, I am a good cook, but I had -- I live
19 on a very limited income and I had this bun
20 and I said, "Oh, Dear, Lord," I sprinkled
21 some water on it and put it in the microwave
22 and all of the fumes were coming out and I
23 said, "I know I'm a good work," and I'm
24 trying to salvage this and I guess this must
25 be fast of the fatima, and I'm thinking I'm
1 trying to blow the smoke, put the air vent
2 on, but it went off and my beautiful fire
3 department came to my assistance. So, I
4 felt in my heart the statute that was
5 desecrated where miracles were occurring on
6 that I would like to take and share it with
7 them, I truly thought that it would be taken
8 into the church. And I know they were in a
9 tizzy, so I took the statue over and what
10 they did is they removed the statue and put
11 it on the ground which to me, which they
12 wouldn't, they were stressed out, to me it
13 was a desecration because it was blessed by
14 the Bishops, I'm going to cry. So, anyway,
15 I ran over and I got the pedestal and I put
16 it on the blessed mother on there and I
17 said, okay, and I got there and I snapped
18 some pictures, I got to the church. So I
19 get the pictures back and I want to tell
20 everybody the miracle. Captain Robeson,
21 there was a reflection from the statute onto
22 the back where they put the things down,
23 Captain Robeson's picture is all in blue, he
24 is in heaven. The statute was honored at
25 the Federal Road Columbus Day, the FBI
1 allowed me to put it facing upwards the FBI
2 towards the church. When I got the pictures
3 the King of King was on there, but it also
4 represented King Sod and the Crown Prince.
5 Prior to that when Mr. Robeson went to
6 heaven, a couple of days before the blessed
7 mother asked me to turn the veil around.
8 The stickers of the FBI and the police and
9 the sheriff's department are on there and I
10 couldn't understand why so when I got the
11 pictures back all of this heavy duty stuff
12 was going on, pictures of priests and
13 everything, but it was to tell me in other
14 words another martyer and another saint will
15 reign in heaven.
16 So I have the documents and the
17 pictures and the first one I'm going to show
18 I collected flags, the United Nation's flag,
19 this is my mother, it's pro-life. There is
20 a lot of miracles in here, this is one,
21 support life, but this one is our fire
22 department. The Washington Fire Department
23 is on here because they took me to the
24 hospital and it's going to go to Washington,
25 but right here --
1 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.
2 Can we look at it later?
3 MS. HUMPHREY: Yeah, you can look
4 at, yeah, and I thought maybe you can make
5 posters and for the City of Scranton and we
6 can sell them because even though they are
7 knocking down Scranton this is kind of a
8 like an earthquake.
9 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.
10 Thank you very much.
11 MS. HUMPHREY: God bless you. Thank
12 you for your apartment. Thank you to
13 Captain Robeson.
14 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.
15 MR. GERVASI: Good evening, City
16 Council. Dave Gervasi, Scranton resident
17 and never so proud to be a firefighter. I
18 just wanted to come here tonight, president
19 Dave Shriber was unavailable to come and we
20 have been pretty busy the last week but we
21 wanted to just come and try to say thank you
22 to everyone. The sheer volume of cards and
23 condolences and support for Captain
24 Robeson's family was just truly overwhelming
25 to everyone, his family and his coworkers.
1 After the tragic death of Captain Robeson on
2 January 6 a lot of people came together and
3 we want to apologize to the Fenstermacher
4 family for not reaching out to them earlier,
5 we attended the wake and we just want the
6 Fenstermachers our heart goes out to them,
7 it's not easy losing somebody in a fire.
8 We are just going to try to thank as
9 many people as we possibly could. We want
10 to put our apologies in advance that if we
11 do miss anyone in the next coming weeks when
12 we do send out notes of thank you, we do
13 apologize and we appreciate everything that
14 was done.
15 We would like to thank this council
16 for attending the services. We would like
17 to thank the city administration for
18 cooperating with us and giving us the
19 flexibility to work together in giving
20 Captain Robeson the tribute he deserved. We
21 would like to thank the great people of the
22 City of Scranton and throughout the
23 Northeast Pennsylvania for the overwhelming
24 outpouring of support they showed to Jimmy's
25 family. The citizens who stopped at
1 firehouses for those four days.
2 We would really like to thank the
3 fire departments of Pittston, Dunmore,
4 Wilkes-Barre, Dickson City, Kingston and Old
5 Forge and our fine, fine Scranton police
6 officers who all went above and beyond to
7 help us, work for us, guard our city so that
8 it allowed all of Captain Robeson's fellow
9 coworkers to attend the services. And a
10 very big sidenote, those were the fire
11 departments actually came in and physically
12 did something. There were hundreds of
13 others who offered the same services,
14 equipment, apparatus, manpower to do the
15 same and it was -- that was truly
17 So, I don't want to, you know, give
18 more credit that's due to others than
19 others, but it was just overwhelming and I
20 guess in closing I would just like to say
21 thank you to everyone. In the next few
22 weeks we are going to be sending out notices
23 trying to recognize everyone who helped
24 Jimmy's family and I guess on behalf of the
25 friends, families and coworkers of James
1 Robeson thank you all very much, we are very
2 grateful and it was very much appreciated.
3 Thank you.
4 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gervasi.
5 MS. KNIGHT: Good evening, Council.
6 My name is Geraldine Knight. I was here
7 last week to congratulate you all. Mr.
8 Courtright, I sent you a letter, did you
9 receive it?
10 MR. COURTRIGHT: Did you send it
11 this week?
12 MS. KNIGHT: Yes, I did.
13 MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, you know what
14 I had a little bit of a --
15 MS. KNIGHT: No?
16 MR. COURTRIGHT: -- problem, I
17 haven't been here this week, I'm sure I'll
18 see it.
19 MS. KNIGHT: Well, I was
20 congratulating you, but then when I gave the
21 letter here I heard that you were going to
22 look into being a tax collector.
23 MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, I don't think
24 that's working out too well.
25 MS. KNIGHT: Wonderful.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: There are too many
2 people against me.
3 MS. KNIGHT: I hope it doesn't
4 because we need you hear on council.
5 MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.
6 MS. KNIGHT: And I am telling the
7 other three and good well since Miss Sherry
8 who was not here last week smiling, that
9 favorite smile of yours.
10 MS. FANUCCI: Did you miss me?
11 MS. KNIGHT: Wonderful. You should
12 be very proud of it, honey, because you
13 should listen to these people. They are a
14 hell of a lot older than you are and they
15 got the brains and if you were brought up
16 the right way you would take that smirk --
17 MS. FANUCCI: Are you my mother?
18 MS. KNIGHT: Yes, I am your mother,
19 Honey. I'm 67 years old and you talk. If
20 you were my kid you would be six-foot under
21 because I'd smack the living daylights out
22 of you.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, that's
25 MS. KNIGHT: That's inappropriate.
1 Okay. But there is no words to describe you
2 that I'm allowed to say according to the
3 attorney over there, but I wish you would
4 get wised up, kid, because you got a heck of
5 a lot to learn and when you do I hope it
6 hits you hard and right in the back of the
8 MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, it's really
10 MS. KNIGHT: Well, you mean to tell
11 me that I can't raise or suggest words? I'm
12 not using foul words, am I? Can I get an
13 answer from any one of you?
14 MR. MCGOFF: I would say that it was
15 somewhat threatening and --
16 MS. KNIGHT: Threatening.
17 MR. MCGOFF: AND it was inappropriate
18 for council meeting, yes, thank you.
19 MS. KNIGHT: Oh, okay. Thank you
20 very much. Mr. Courtright, I'm very happy
21 that you're staying.
22 MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you. I'll
23 read your letter this week.
24 MS. KNIGHT: Thank you.
25 MR. COURTRIGHT: I just had a little
1 bit of a problem getting in there this week.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Knight.
3 MS. SCHUMACHER: Marie Schumacher,
4 citizen and member of the Scranton/
5 Lackawanna County Taxpayers' Association.
6 The first thing I'd like to comment on
7 tonight is 5-I. Again, it's obvious to all
8 that the package of materials that you get
9 that is only available by coming down here
10 physically and reviewing them I'm sure again
11 that document was prepared electronically
12 and there is in my estimation no reason why
13 this council cannot require everybody
14 submitting in this case to the clerk's
15 office for inclusion on the agenda that it
16 be transmitted electronically and it be put
17 on the computer so that we can all see it,
18 not just the agenda, but we can also see, I
19 mean, this is meaningless. It's clear as
20 mud which projects and it would be nice.
21 Not everybody is able to come down here.
22 I would next like to comment on 5-G.
23 I assume that is the property tax portion
24 that's being set for next year, perhaps I'm
25 wrong, but I would also like to comment, I
1 like the way the county presents their
2 allocation of tax dollars. They show how
3 much goes to debt service and how much goes
4 to the operating budget and I think it would
5 be very enlightening for all of our citizens
6 and taxpayers to have the property tax split
7 between the debt, what's going to debt
8 allocation and debt service and how much is
9 going to the operating budgets.
10 Next, I'd like to comment on
11 recovery. Again, recovery is measured by
12 how much people want to live in any
13 jurisdiction. Scranton is no exception. On
14 Sunday afternoon I looked at the multiple
15 listings, there are 633 homes, 18 percent of
16 those homes in the City of Scranton are up
17 for sale. That does not include those that
18 are being sold by the owners. That tells me
19 that there aren't a lot of people who really
20 want to live in Scranton or we wouldn't have
21 an 18 percent -- 18 percent of the homes on
22 the market at any one time, so, we are very
23 far from recovery.
24 Next, I would like to comment on the
25 advance from the Scranton Housing Authority.
1 That payment was for multiple years and the
2 last Scranton Housing Authority meeting I
3 asked what the period of time was, it goes
4 out 2015 so there will not be another
5 payment for those Park Garden apartments
6 until 2015. My further comment is that I
7 think it's unwise to use all of that in one
8 year. I think it should have been more
9 properly put into an escrow account and
10 parceled out by the year through 2014 as it
11 was intended by the Housing Authority.
12 Next I would like to comment on the
13 commercial cafeterias or eateries that are
14 in the new building that the University of
15 Scranton recently opened on Mulberry Street.
16 I did notice in the newspaper that there are
17 commercial eateries in there and I am
18 assuming that they are paying taxes, but I
19 can't help but wonder if I'm assuming
20 correctly or if they are using the umbrella
21 of the University of Scranton to avoid
22 paying taxes.
23 And then my final comments tonight
24 will deal with the money pit also known as
25 Nay Aug Park. You know my feelings on the
1 capital budget, you know my feelings on park
2 parody. A good example is the treehouse
3 which was supposedly made for the disabled,
4 but every time I have been there with a
5 disabled person you almost get run over by
6 the abled people, particularly if it's on a
7 weekend. Back on the 28th of July in 2005
8 the mayor estimated that the cost at 120 to
9 $140,000. Then, on the 9th of February,
10 2006, Mr. Scopelliti, who was then the
11 Director of Parks and Recreation appeared
12 here before a council meeting and he stated
13 that the total cost would be about $300,000.
14 As it turns out, the foundation,
15 concrete and steelwork alone cost $229,000.
16 That does not include the lumber or the
17 effort done by Forever Young Treehouse
18 Company at a meeting on the 6th of March --
19 or 2006 the representatives from Forever
20 Young said their bill would be $143,000, so
21 we are close to $372,000 for that treehouse
22 and I can't help but wonder, and I will wrap
23 this up, is for the disabled, I mean, it's
24 nice and it's certainly located beautiful
25 but when you come to really helping the
1 disabled at $12.00 an hour, which I'm
2 assuming about what the public works people
3 make, that would be 30,000 hours to get out
4 and clean the street corners or the pavecuts
5 so the disabled can get across the streets
6 and not have to go through a pile of muck
7 and snow, so I think if we really want to
8 help the disabled something a little less
9 glitzy and glim would certainly be much
10 better for the disabled. Thank you very
12 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.
13 Schumacher. Chris.
14 MR. SLEDZENSKI: All right, I wasn't
15 going to step and then I figured out, I got
16 to see my Judy tonight for a change, right,
18 MS. GATELLI: Do you know who was
19 there today, Chrissy.
20 MR. SLEDZENSKI: Who? I heard.
21 Ozzie was telling me. Right, Oz? I heard.
22 Dave, I'm going to say I'm sorry about
23 Captain Robeson down there. From all of us
24 to him, Dave, he was a good man. Thank you.
25 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,
2 MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening. Nelson
3 Ancherani, resident and taxpayer, city
4 employee and financial secretary of the FOP,
5 First Amendment Rights. Last week I brought
6 up about how the unions are being treated
7 differently. I believe the word is
8 discriminated against by this
9 administration, being treated differently
10 and special favorites is discrimination. I
11 have to add that if the union workers were
12 treated the same as the special favorites
13 there would be no arguments. This mayor
14 when he mentions the recovery plan he still
15 thinks he is going to put the city on steady
16 financial ground by implementing the plan.
17 The city is 400 million approximately in
18 long-term debt for at least the next
19 28 years and saving the city approximately
20 two million a year by implementing the plan
21 isn't going to get us out of the debt.
22 The $35 million parking authority
23 loan is going to cost us 59 million in
24 interest. Getting back to how I feel the
25 unions are being treated differently, the
1 three council persons, Ms. Gatelli, Ms.
2 Fanucci, Mr. McGoff, voted for the mayor's
3 budget that treats the unions differently.
4 We have been saying that the mayor violated
5 this recovery plan from the beginning by
6 giving raises to a special favorites. On
7 page 64 of the revised and updated Act 47
8 Recovery Plan for the City of Scranton,
9 Chapter 2-B, labor relations, cost
10 containment and related provisions, Section
11 2, wages, reads: "For 2003, 2004, and 2005,
12 the base hourly wages and salaries of all
13 city employees shall not, shall not exceed
14 existing 2002 rates."
15 Can't be any clearer than that. I
16 would say that the $15 million given in
17 raises in the new hires to special favorites
18 is a violation of the recovery plan and was
19 a violation from day one.
20 This morning when I got up I went on
21 line to the Scranton slime's website, I
22 heard about the breaking news, road paved
23 for recovery written by Stacy Brown. If
24 they were giving prizes for fiction writing
25 and fairy-tales Stacy Brown would win hands
1 down. I thought I was reading nursery
2 rhymes, but then I realized I was reading
3 fables and they were in the Scranton slimes.
4 First of all, the city had their
5 opinion and probably gave it to someone and
6 we haven't even gotten ours from the judge.
7 The one I saw I believe was supplied to us
8 from someone other than the judge, it was
9 ineligible, could hardly read it. I have
10 yet to see an opinion from the judge that
11 says the city is allowed to implement their
12 plan. Is this more wishful thinking by the
13 city? Reading through Stacy's fable it says
14 the plan attempts to balance the city's
15 budget almost entirely through limiting
16 wages and cutting jobs and benefits for
17 union employees, that's true. The mayor has
18 been trying to break the unions and all the
19 time he has been BS'ing the residents,
20 borrowing and spending while putting on a
21 millionaire front and having a hobo's hind
23 Again, the mayor mentions the
24 72 percent of the voters who voted for the
25 row cover re plan. He never mentions that
1 it was 72 percent of the voters who voted in
2 that election. Mary Paterson, city
3 solicitor, said, "The ruling is a welcome
4 affirmation that labor contracts must abide
5 the recovery plan."
6 I refer back to page 64, "Wages and
7 salaries of all city employees shall not
8 exceed existing 2002 rates."
9 The fiction fable says the city's
10 budget is 88 million, it's 85 million. The
11 fable says Mayor Connors also focused
12 heavily union concessions, but he never
13 seriously pursued the provisions during
14 negotiations. Wrong. The police gave up 17
15 positions while the firefighters gave up 50.
16 I can go on dispelling this fiction, we only
17 get five minutes.
18 I do wish to say that it's not over
19 until that lady sings and I don't see her
20 anywhere to be found. Thank you.
21 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr.
22 Ancherani. Anyone else? If not then we go
23 to Fifth Order, motions. Mrs. Evans.
24 MS. EVANS: Good evening. Please
25 remember in your prayers a wonderful young
1 man, David Burke, and his dear family
2 members who grieve his passing. He was a
3 graduate of Scranton High School and one of
4 Boscov's friendliest and most helpful
6 At our last council meeting,
7 Mrs. Gatelli made a motion to seek other
8 bids from the cable companies, however, we
9 have learned that all cable franchise
10 agreements are nonexclusive. It is not a
11 competitive bidding process in which there
12 is only one winner. Any cable company that
13 wishes to operate in Scranton receives the
14 same deal. In addition, Comcast has already
15 notified Scranton of it's intent to continue
16 it's operation and negotiate a new contract.
17 Further, the franchise fee which is
18 paid to the city ranges from 0 to 5 percent
19 of gross revenues. It is not a negotiated
20 rate, rather the city sets the rate.
21 Scranton collects 5 percent and Comcast
22 passes that cost along to the consumer.
23 In addition, the Scranton Cable
24 Commission has requested that the mayor
25 allow the cable commission chairman to join
1 the mayor's appointees in reviewing RFP's or
2 requests for proposals for the operator of
3 Channel 61.
4 As a follow-up to last week's
5 meeting, I have received no response from
6 Mr. Baker and the SHA chairman to questions
7 regarding the $900,000 advance from the
8 Scranton Housing Authority to the City in
9 2007, however, I do thank you, Mrs.
10 Schumacher, for your report at the meeting
11 that you attended that certainly does begin
12 to explain the payment in lieu of taxes, it
13 appears to be rather an anticipated or
14 regularly expected annual contribution.
15 A letter to Mr. Brazil, please, DPW
16 director, please paint crosswalks in front
17 of elderly high-rises and city schools as
18 necessary. Paint traffic lines on
19 Lackawanna Avenue before the entrance to the
20 Steamtown Mall and near the Lackawanna
21 Avenue bridge.
22 And, Kay, over the following week
23 could our office please locate the ordinance
24 regarding sidewalk installation provided for
25 by the City of Scranton and a letter to
1 Mr. Hayes and Mr. Brazil, please provide in
2 writing the comprehensive plans and
3 procedures for snow emergencies and snow
4 removal for the City of Scranton on or
5 before February 1, 2008, to city council.
6 And also, Kay, I'd like Mr. Seitzinger
7 contacted tomorrow in reference to Daron
8 Northeast. Residents of Dickson Avenue
9 report that work begins at approximately
10 5:10 a.m. and very often doesn't conclude
11 until 11:30 p.m. I know that letters have
12 been sent to the management of Daron
13 Northeast concerning just these problems in
14 the recent past and they have indicated that
15 these problems are nonexistent, but yet the
16 citizens of Scranton, the taxpayers of
17 Scranton who reside less than 50 feet from
18 that plant, report quite the opposite and I
19 really would like Mr. Seitzinger to address
20 this issue immediately so that these
21 individuals are able to gain at least a good
22 night's sleep.
23 I think that is it. Oh, one last
24 item, I did notice also in the most recent
25 controller's report council received dated
1 January 17 for the month of December 2007,
2 that it appears $4.4 million was carried
3 over from 2007, December 31, 2007, into
4 2008. The revenues to December 2007
5 amounted to $76,774,982.00 and expenditures
6 $72,328,323.00 for a net difference of
7 $4,446,659.00. So, I think it's very
8 important to keep that in mind particularly
9 as the city will propose additional
10 borrowing by the month of June this year.
11 Exactly what is necessary, what is fact,
12 what is fiction. That's it.
13 MR. MCGOFF: I just wanted to --
14 would you prefer that the letter to
15 Mr. Seitzinger go from council or --
16 MS. EVANS: Well, actually, I was
17 hoping that he could be called by phone
18 because the letter could take too long -- it
19 would possibly into the end of the week.
20 MR. MCGOFF: Would any -- well, maybe
21 the same question only in a different
22 format, would you prefer that phone call be
23 on behalf of council --
24 MS. EVANS: Absolutely.
25 MR. MCGOFF: As opposed to
2 MS. EVANS: Absolutely.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Any objection? No?
4 Kay, Mrs. Garvey, please do that on behalf
5 of council.
6 MS. EVANS: Also, Mr. McGoff if then
7 Mr. Seitzinger could provide all of the
8 council with a report on the situation at
9 Daron Northeast.
10 MR. MCGOFF: I will try and
11 personally contact him to the see if he can
12 do that.
13 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
14 MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?
15 MR. COURTRIGHT: Kay, I have a
16 couple of them and if it's all right with me
17 if you send them all out by all of council,
18 whatever council prefers, firstly, I believe
19 Mr. Seitzinger is now the gentleman in
20 charge of this building, if he could find
21 out why we can't get a handle on this room
22 here. It's freezing in here. I mean, every
23 week there is a different ball game here and
24 I believe the system is controlled by a
25 computer and our IT department has control
1 over there, I don't know if they are not
2 getting cooperation from the HVAC people or
3 what it is, but I can't take much more of
4 this cold weather.
5 All right, over the holiday season,
6 you know, you run into a lot of people and a
7 big thing everybody seems to be asking me
8 now is about, you know, where are our beat
9 cops, so I thought I would just run down a
10 little bit for the people that are asking
11 where they are. Oh, going on three months
12 now we are done away with just about all of
13 the beat cops from the exceptions of one on
14 the north end. We didn't have enough
15 officers to man the patrols so they had to
16 be taken from the beat and put in the
18 I think somebody dropped the ball
19 when they came to giving the tests they
20 didn't give the tests fast enough and when
21 they did give the test nobody wanted to be a
22 cop in Scranton so we got very few takers.
23 Out of the takers that we got not too many
24 passed and a lot of the ones that passed I
25 don't believe that all of them their
1 background check worked out that well, so we
2 don't have too many. They do plan on giving
3 a test now, what they are going to do is you
4 don't have to have any qualifications now to
5 take the test, anybody I belive, you just
6 have to be 19 years old and you could take
7 the test and then they will send you to the
8 Act 120.
9 The problem that lies there is that
10 there won't be a 120 class until March,
11 sometime in March at least starting, that
12 class will take approximately six months
13 then they would need to get certified by
14 MOPEC. Once they get certified then they
15 need to be field trained by our people so I
16 don't think you are going to see those
17 people from this up and coming test on the
18 street for about eight months, so that's
19 where your beat people are for those of you
20 have that have been asking me.
21 And, again, these letters want to go
22 by all council that's fine by me. I would
23 just ask Mr. Brazil if I he could check with
24 PennDOT, I brought this up a while back and
25 find out for me if PennDOT requires the
1 barricades that we put on our streets to
2 have either flashers on them or at least
3 reflectors because we did have an incident
4 on Franklin Avenue where somebody ran into
5 one, so if he can find out if it has
6 something to do with PennDOT as a ruling on
8 And if you can just combine this one
9 if you wouldn't mind, behind the Moses
10 Taylor Hospital I can't remember the name of
11 that court back there, behind the main
12 building, the main entrance on Quincy it's
13 really like a battlefield, I had occasion to
14 ride that the other night and when they are
15 doing any patching if they might be able to
16 take a look behind the main building of the
17 Moses Taylor I would appreciate that.
18 And this you don't need to put in a
19 letter, I'll tell them myself, John Pezo and
20 Gerry Shock, and I can't recall who else is
21 in the truck, but they took care of a
22 problem on Main Avenue and I don't know it
23 was the city's or not, but there was a hole
24 so bad that I would watch every time
25 somebody would hit it they would actually
1 pull their car over and come back and take a
2 look and see what they hit and they took
3 care of it and they rectified that problem,
4 so I would like thank them for that.
5 Tripp Park, it might have been
6 Mr. Sbaraglia who was taking about Tripp
7 Park, maybe the new solicitor could help me
8 out, I had asked in the past the developer
9 of Tripp Park had put up a bond, nobody
10 could tell me how much that bond was and if,
11 in fact, he received that bond back yet. I
12 don't think it's any surprise that many of
13 the people living in that Tripp Park
14 development are not happy with what
15 happened, what has been happening up there
16 and what continues to go on so, so, I'm
17 sorry, I don't know what the woman's name,
18 is it Patterson, the new --
19 MS. EVANS: Yes.
20 MS. COURTRIGHT: If you can ask her
21 and, again, if you want to sent it by all of
22 council if that would carry more weight I'd
23 be happy to put everybody's name on it, if
24 she could find out for me what type of bond
25 was posted and if he received his bond back
1 or not. I hope if he had a bond we didn't
2 give it back to him.
3 MS. GATELLI: I don't think he even
4 had one.
5 MR. COURTRIGHT: He didn't post a
7 MS. GATELLI: I don't think so.
8 MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, God.
9 MS. GATELLI: I know that Jeff was
10 working with Parker on that. It's a
11 nightmare, the whole thing is.
12 MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah. Well, if we
13 can him if he didn't post a bond I don't
14 think the people up there are going to be
15 too happy.
16 Channel 61, whatever is going to
17 happen with Channel 61 is going to happen
18 but I would was just hope that this
19 administration would give the people of
20 Scranton Today every consideration to run
21 Channel 61. They have, as long as I have
22 been here, they are done programming and
23 they haven't been partial or biased to
24 anyone. They just show the programming.
25 They have no special interest and maybe some
1 of the things that they show on Channel 61
2 some of the people didn't like, but they
3 don't edit it, you get to see your
4 government in action, not just here, but the
5 zoning and planning, and others, without any
6 editing, without any kind of alteration
7 whatsoever and I think they have done it
8 fairly and I would like to see them have an
9 opportunity to continue on, so I really
10 think we should give them the utmost
11 consideration, and I certainly will if this
12 council, I don't know if we are going to
13 have anything to say about it, but if we do
14 I certainly will.
15 And one last thing, I was going to
16 bring up last week but I wasn't here, when
17 we had our reorganization meeting, I can't
18 recall why Mrs. Evans asked Mrs. Fanucci
19 when she "we", what she meant by "we" , and
20 I don't know recall the reason, but I don't
21 think the reason really matters, but she
22 said what she meant by "we" was that "we" as
23 council work as a body and "we" as council
24 work as one. I have to disagree. Either
25 that or they don't consider to be part of
1 council. I was never consulted on anything
2 to do with the reorganization meeting except
3 for when I ran into Mr. McGoff I asked him
4 about the rule, nobody asked me who I would
5 care to see be president, vice president,
6 what priest we bring in, how the day would
7 be run, nothing. So if "we" means all of
8 council then evidently I am not included in
9 being on council and --
10 MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, thank you
11 I didn't mean to interrupt.
12 MR. COURTRIGHT: That's all right.
13 MS. EVANS: With your permission, I
14 would echo those statements in that I, too,
15 was not informed of the choices for
16 officers, the changes in council rules, the
17 seating arrangement, etcetera, until I was
18 notified late on Friday before the Monday
19 reorganization meeting by our city clerk
20 and, of course, by reading the information
21 in the Scranton Times and it would appear
22 that almost the election had been conducted
23 in the newspaper and so like Mr. Courtright
24 I, too, being feel that "we" includes only
25 three individuals. It certainly does not
1 include myself as a councilwoman.
2 MR. COURTRIGHT: And one last thing,
3 as I said to I believe Mrs. Knight there, I
4 haven't been in here recently, and I'm
5 usually here everyday so if I answered
6 anybody's e-mails or your letters I will get
7 to them as soon as possible and I apologize,
8 and that's all I have. Thank you.
9 MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci?
10 MS. FANUCCI: Yes, I have two things
11 that I need to discuss. I received a letter
12 that I want to give to Mr. Courtright
13 complaining about an incident that happened
14 with the police, so I'm going to give that
15 to you and see if you can handle that for
16 me. She wanted it on the record so that's
17 why I'm stating it now, so I will hand that
18 to Mr. Courtright.
19 I wanted to talk to you about some
20 of the things that were said today. Fact:
21 I do believe that there are businesses that
22 are moving into the city. I don't know
23 maybe I do have a problem and I'm making
24 them up as I'm walking downtown and seeing
25 all of these new businesses, but I can also
1 say as an elected official I encourage and
2 support anyone coming into this city and who
3 wants to bring money here and jobs. Is it
4 prudent to say that I don't believe that we
5 need higher paying jobs, that is an absurd,
6 ludicrous statement. I certainly know that
7 we need to attract higher paying positions.
8 I do not believe everyone in this city is
9 where they need to be financially. That
10 would be a such a gross misuse of what I
11 have said up here.
12 We should be grateful to the people
13 who are here and who are investing in us. I
14 certainly am. Whether or not you believe
15 that major businesses who are employing most
16 of the people in this city are not what you
17 believe should be here or not are important
18 to us because people need to work and we
19 need to have jobs. Whether or not you
20 believe that people need a certain type of
21 business is not a decision made by your
22 elected officials and it certainly is not a
23 decision that is made on the basis of how
24 you believe the city should be run. The
25 people who decide that is the consumer. The
1 consumer decides if a business should be
2 here. They have the right to open. I can
3 tell you, yes, when Poochie was, sad to say,
4 yes, they are closing now, when I asked them
5 they said they were remaining open, they are
6 closing now, but I also can tell you a new
7 business is going right in there. That to
8 me shows something productive. Does it say
9 I am where we want to be? Absolutely not.
10 But I am not going to stop wanting our city
11 to did better. I'm not going to say and
12 decide what type of businesses. Everyone is
13 welcome in our city and the more business
14 here and the more diversity and the more
15 types of venues we have is what's going to
16 make our city strong, like it or not.
17 What I heard today was people get up
18 and bash big business, bash small business,
19 so what's left? Twenty-five years ago,
20 30 years ago should we have not let anyone
21 come here? Should it have been decisions
22 people make deciding on what they feel is
23 prudent? If you have a cat, don't open a
24 dog place because I certainly don't even
25 like them. Well, that's ridiculous. If you
1 are not a baseball stand don't build a
2 stadium, but guess what, there are a lot of
3 baseball fans. This is what it's about.
4 This is what our city is all about, so I
5 certainly do not think that getting up here
6 and listening to what I listened today as
7 been productive in any way.
8 I certainly had all of these facts
9 and figures. Does it make feel good, it
10 certainly doesn't. I'm very much aware of
11 what our population is. I'm very much of
12 what our median income is. It doesn't mean
13 I'm going to stop working and trying to
14 provide and help people make better
15 decisions and better lives for themselves,
16 but certainly sitting here and bashing
17 everyone is not going to make a better live
18 for everyone in the city.
19 I also want to speak on the recovery
20 plan which obviously is something that was
21 spoken about today. Yes, I do believe in
22 the recovery plan and I have always said I
23 support the recovery plan. Do I believe we
24 are better off than we were? No, and I'll
25 say it again because we have not done
1 anything to implement recovery. I know that
2 since, you know, it started in 2002 we are
3 not in recovery. Have we given the raises
4 to the police and fire? No. Was it because
5 we didn't want to, was it because I didn't
6 want to? No. You can't until the contracts
7 are negotiated, that's what is all about.
8 Does it make it happy? It certainly
9 doesn't. Can't stand it. I think it's sad
10 and I think we are at the point now where we
11 need to sit down and negotiate. I said this
12 from day one, this is not going to stop. We
13 are not going to change until it's battled
14 out and, unfortunately, that's what happens.
15 Lawyers and lawyers and lawyers and now
16 after 2002 we are still having the same
17 argument, just like KOZ's and KOEZ's, until
18 they finally are finished we are going to
19 hear they are free ride not the fact that
20 they invested in us and believed in us and
21 tried to do something for us as much as we
22 had done for them. So do I agree with
23 what's said, I mean, no. I'm not going to
24 sit here and I'm certainly not going to take
25 a lot of the, I want to say the sad, the sad
1 accusations from people, but I certainly
2 will talk about what I do believe and what I
3 believe is fact, so that is another thing I
4 wanted to talk about.
5 I also wanted to talk about two
6 things that we do have on the agenda, the
7 trees was one. Oh, I do have to speak about
8 this. That money that we have taken from
9 the other projects cannot be used to give to
10 people for heat. It cannot be used to give
11 to people for low income housing. It's sad
12 and it's unfortunate, but it can't be used
13 for that, so either we don't use it, which
14 maybe is an option, I don't know if you
15 would rather us not use funds that we have
16 for reasons that we can use them for and
17 invest in things that maybe you can benefit
18 from then maybe we shouldn't use it as all
19 or we have to use it for what it's
20 structured for, that's these projects are
21 about and I'm sorry, but we did -- I would
22 love to see us pay people's heating bills
23 and I would certainly love to see more low
24 income housing, love to see it all over the
25 city, but we certainly can't use this money
1 for it. So, yes, trees are a good thing. I
2 don't find them as ridiculous as everyone
3 that got up to speak did.
4 And, also, as far as another problem
5 that we had I think we discussed that in
6 caucus tonight some understanding about what
7 monies could be used and different zoning,
8 we were discussing it in caucus and I
9 believe we came to a conclusions on that,
10 also, but that is really all I have. And I
11 know that for some reason I'm not supposed
12 to speak what I believe even the fact that I
13 have been elected to do so, I will continue
14 to say what I need to say and I will
15 continue to work very hard at what I do and
16 we don't have to agree, but, yes, respectful
17 would be very nice, and that's all I have to
18 say. Thank you very much.
19 MR. MCGOFF: Thank you. Mrs.
21 MS. GATELLI: I have nothing at this
22 time, Mr. McGoff.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Just very quickly, I had
24 an answer for Mr. Quinn, I see he has left.
25 He asked last week who had prepared the
1 specifications for the bids on the
2 channel -- on the operation of Channel 61.
3 I am told that it was prepared by the city
4 law department in conjunction with the
5 contract from Comcast and who in the law
6 department I am not sure, I believe it was
7 my assumption that it was Attorney Farrell
8 prior to his leaving and I hope that that
9 answers Mr. Quinn's question. And that's
10 all I have for this evening as well.
11 MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER. 5-B. FOR
12 INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE
13 OF THE COUNCIL NO. 6, 1976 ENTITLED "AN
14 ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED) IMPOSING A TAX FOR
15 GENERAL REVENUE PURPOSES ON THE TRANSFER OF
16 REAL PROPERTY SITUATED WITHIN THE CITY OF
17 SCRANTON; PRESCRIBING AND REGULATING THE
18 METHOD OF EVIDENCING THE PAYMENT OF SUCH
19 TAX; CONFERRING POWERS IMPOSING DUTIES UPON
20 CERTAIN PERSONS, AND PROVIDING PENALTIES",
21 BY IMPOSING THE RATE OF THE REALTY TRANSFER
22 TAX AT 2.5% FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2008.
23 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
24 entertain a motion that Item 5-B be
25 introduced into it's proper committee.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
2 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
3 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
4 those in favor?
5 MS. EVANS: Aye.
6 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
7 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
8 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
9 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
10 ayes have it and so moved.
11 MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -
12 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF THE COUNCIL
13 NO. 7, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS
14 AMENDED) IMPOSING A MERCANTILE LICENSE TAX
15 OF 2 MILLS FOR THE YEAR 1976 AND ANNUALLY
16 THEREAFTER UPON PERSONS ENGAGING IN CERTAIN
17 OCCUPATIONS AND BUSINESSES THEREIN;
18 PROVIDING FOR IT'S LEVY AND COLLECTION AND
19 FOR THE ISSUANCE OF MERCANTILE LICENSES;
20 CONFERRING AND IMPOSING POWERS AND DUTIES ON
21 THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON;
22 AND IMPOSING PENALTIES", BY IMPOSING THE
23 MERCANTILE LICENSE TAX AT 1 MILL FOR
24 CALENDAR YEAR 2008.
25 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
1 entertain a motion that Item 5-C be
2 introduced into it's proper committee.
3 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
4 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
5 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
6 those in favor?
7 MS. EVANS: Aye.
8 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
9 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
10 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
11 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
12 ayes have it and so moved.
13 MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -
14 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
15 8, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED)
16 PROVIDING FOR THE GENERAL REVENUE BY
17 IMPOSING A TAX AT THE RATE OF 2 MILL UPON
18 THE PRIVILEGE OF OPERATING OR CONDUCTING
19 BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON AS MEASURED
20 BY THE GROSS RECEIPTS THEREFROM;
21 REGISTRATION AND PAYMENT OF THE TAX AS
22 CONDITION TO THE CONDUCTING OF SUCH
23 BUSINESS; PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY AND
24 COLLECTION OF SUCH TAX; PRESCRIBING SUCH
25 REQUIREMENTS FOR RETURNS AND RECORDS;
1 CONFERRING POWERS AND DUTIES UPON THE TAX
2 COLLECTOR; AND IMPOSING PENALTIES", BY
3 IMPOSING THE BUSINESS PRIVILEGE TAX AT THE
4 RATE OF 1 MILL FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2008.
5 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
6 entertain a motion that Item 5-C be
7 introduced into it's proper committee.
8 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
9 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
10 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
11 those in favor?
12 MS. EVANS: Aye.
13 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
14 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
15 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
16 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
17 ayes have it and so moved.
18 MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -
19 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
20 11, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS
21 AMENDED) ENACTING, IMPOSING A TAX FOR
22 GENERAL REVENUE PURPOSES IN THE AMOUNT OF 2%
23 ON EARNED INCOME AND NET PROFITS ON PERSONS,
24 INDIVIDUALS, ASSOCIATIONS AND BUSINESSES WHO
25 ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON, OR
1 NON-RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON, FOR
2 WORK DONE, SERVICES PERFORMED OR BUSINESS
3 CONDUCTED WITHIN THE CITY OF SCRANTON,
4 REQUIRING THE FILING OF RETURNS BY TAX
5 PAYERS SUBJECT TO THE TAX; REQUIRING
6 EMPLOYERS TO COLLECT THE TAX AT SOURCE;
7 PROVIDING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, COLLECTION
8 AND ENFORCEMENT OF THESE SAID TAX; AND
9 IMPOSING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATIONS", BY
10 IMPOSING THE WAGE TAX AT 2.4% ON EARNED
11 INCOME FOR THE YEAR 2008 FOR RESIDENTS.
12 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
13 entertain a motion that Item 5-E be
14 introduced into it's proper committee.
15 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
16 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
17 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
18 those in favor?
19 MS. EVANS: Aye.
20 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
21 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
22 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
24 ayes have it and so moved.
25 MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -
1 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
2 17, 1994 ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED)
3 AUTHORIZING THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY
4 OF SCRANTON TO ENACT A "WASTE DISPOSAL AND
5 COLLECTION FEE" FOR THE PURPOSE OF RAISING
6 REVENUE TO COVER THE WASTE DISPOSAL AND
7 COLLECTION COSTS INCURRED BY THE CITY OF
8 SCRANTON FOR THE DISPOSAL OF REFUSE", BY
9 IMPOSING A WASTE DISPOSAL AND COLLECTION FEE
10 OF $178.00 FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2008.
11 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
12 entertain a motion that Item 5-F be
13 introduced into it's proper committee.
14 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
15 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
16 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
17 those in favor?
18 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
19 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
20 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
21 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed?
22 MS. EVANS: No. The ayes have it and
23 so moved.
24 MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION -
25 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
1 100, 1976 ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS
2 AMENDED) LEVYING GENERAL AND SPECIAL TAXES
3 FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1977", BY SETTING THE
4 MILLAGE FOR THE YEAR 2008.
5 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
6 entertain a motion that Item 5-G be
7 introduced into it's proper committee.
8 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
9 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
10 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
11 those in favor?
12 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
13 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
14 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed?
15 MS. EVANS: No.
16 MR. COURTRIGHT: No.
17 MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so
19 MS. GARVEY: 5-H. FOR INTRODUCTION -
20 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
21 74, 1993, (AS AMENDED), ENTITLED "THE ZONING
22 ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF SCRANTON", BY
23 CHANGING THE MAP IN THE VICINITY OF THE
24 SCRANTON HIGH SCHOOL AND ITS SURROUNDING
25 AREA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
1 EXHIBIT "A" ATTACHED HERETO FROM I-L (LIGHT
2 INDUSTRIAL) TO INS-G (GENERAL INSTITUTIONAL)
3 AND C-G (GENERAL COMMERCIAL).
4 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
5 entertain a motion that Item 5-H be
6 introduced into it's into proper committee.
7 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
8 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
9 MR. MCGOFF: On the question?
10 MS. EVANS: I had raised concerns
11 last week regarding this particular piece of
12 legislation. I did receive a response from
13 Tom King, city planner, regarding my
14 questions, and to sum up that response let
15 me say that he indicates that the area is
16 now, as we know, light industrial and is
17 being proposed to change to general
18 commercial, both zones allow for fast food
19 restaurants, for gas stations, if the zone
20 remains as is they are a permitted use. If
21 the zone changes or approved they would have
22 to go before the zoning board and planning
23 commission for a special exception by
24 proving all of section numbers A through G
25 which is enclosed with the letter of
1 response that we each received and so it
2 does appear that by enacting this change to
3 the zoning map we may at least have the
4 possibility of preventing such businesses
5 from locating directly next to the soccer
6 fields of Scranton High School.
7 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else? All those
8 in favor signify by saying aye.
9 MS. EVANS: Aye.
10 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
11 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
12 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
13 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
14 ayes have it and so moved.
15 MS. GARVEY: 5-I. FOR INTRODUCTION -
16 AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.
17 49, 2006, ENTITLED, "AN ORDINANCE
18 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE
19 OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO TAKE
20 ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE
21 CONSOLIDATED SUBMISSION FOR COMMUNITY
22 PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS (AS
23 AMENDED) TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE COMMUNITY
24 DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM, HOME
25 INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP (HOME) PROGRAM AND
1 EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT (ESG) PROGRAM", BY
2 TRANSFERRING $50,000.00 FROM PROJECT NO.
3 96-204 AND $9,493.80 FROM PROJECT NO. 99-212
4 AND $88.75 FROM PROJECT NO. 03-005.9 AND
5 $400.00 FROM PROJECT NO. 05-152 AND $680.59
6 FROM PROJECT NO. 06-182 AND $49.20 FROM
7 PROJECT NO. 06-05.12 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF
8 $60,712.34 TO PROJECT NO. 07-18 TREE
9 PLANTING PROJECT.
10 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
11 entertain a motion that Item 5-I be
12 introduced into it's proper committee.
13 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
14 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
15 MR. MCGOFF: On the question?
16 MS. EVANS: Mr. McGoff, I do
17 understand from the information I received
18 from OECD that the monies must be used or
19 they will be lost, but I'm wondering if we
20 might inquire before the final vote what
21 other projects would be eligible. I do
22 believe that the tree planting project is
23 certainly worthy, but as many constituents
24 indicated there may be other projects that
25 may be of greater priority for which the
1 money could be used. I guess my bottom line
2 is I would doubt that anywhere in the HUD
3 requirements of this state that such unused
4 monies must be channeled into a tree
5 planting project in order to be utilized.
6 So if that would be agreeable to council?
7 MR. MCGOFF: I'll inquire to find out
8 if there were any or projects that could for
9 which this could be been used.
10 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
11 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the
12 question? All those in favor signify by
13 saying aye?
14 MS. EVANS: Aye.
15 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
16 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
17 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
18 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
19 ayes have it and so moved.
20 MS. GARVEY: Just one moment before
21 we go any further, I would like to go back
22 to 5-H and make a motion that we have a
23 public hearing and have Kay put the proper
24 advertisement into the newspaper.
25 MS. EVANS: Second.
1 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
2 in favor?
3 MS. EVANS: Aye.
4 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
5 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
6 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
7 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
8 ayes have it and so moved.
9 MS. GARVEY: 5-J. FOR INTRODUCTION -
10 A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND
11 OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE
12 AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL
13 SERVICES WITH THE LAW FIRM OF CARL J. GRECO,
14 P.C., FOR LEGAL SERVICES INCLUDING BUT NOT
15 LIMITED TO GENERAL COUNSEL TO THE OFFICE OF
16 ECONOMIC AN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ("OECD"),
17 URBAN RENEWAL PROCESS AND PROCE3DURE,
18 EMINENT DOMAIN AND RELATED LITIGATION,
19 DISPOSITION OF SURPLUS URBAN RENEWAL LANDS,
20 TITLE SEARCHES AND DEED PREPARATION.
21 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
22 entertain a motion that Item 5-J be
23 introduced into it's proper committee.
24 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
25 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
1 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
2 those in favor?
3 MS. EVANS: Aye.
4 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
5 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
6 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
7 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
8 ayes have it and so moved.
9 MS. GARVEY: 5-K FOR INTRODUCTION - A
10 RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE ZONING HEARING
11 BOARD OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO EXTEND THE
12 CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH
13 DANIEL L. PENETAR, JR., ESQUIRE TO ACT AS
14 IT'S SOLICITOR FROM JULY 1, 2007 THROUGH
15 JULY 1, 2008.
16 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
17 entertain a motion that 5-K be introduced
18 into it's proper committee.
19 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
20 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
21 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
22 in favor.
23 MS. EVANS: Aye.
24 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
25 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
3 ayes have it and so moved.
4 MS. GARVEY: 5-L FOR INTRODUCTION - A
5 RESOLUTION - REAPPOINTMENT OF JOSEPH
6 DEANTONA, 1331 CORNELL STREET, SCRANTON,
7 PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS A MEMBER OF THE
8 SCRANTON LACKAWANNA HEALTH & WELFARE
9 AUTHORITY. MR. DEANTONA'S TERM EXPIRED ON
10 DECEMBER 31, 207 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL
11 EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31, 2012.
12 MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll
13 entertain a motion that Item 5-L be
14 introduced into it's proper committee.
15 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.
16 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
17 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
18 those in favor?
19 MS. EVANS: Aye.
20 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
21 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
22 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
23 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
24 ayes have it and so moved.
25 MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER. 6-A. 6-A.
1 READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 1,
2 2008 - AN ORDINANCE - VACATING ANY AND ALL
3 RIGHT, TITLE AND INTEREST OF THE CITY OF
4 SCRANTON IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS
5 SMALLACOMBE DRIVE AS MORE PARTICULARLY
6 DESCRIBED ON THE MAP ATTACHED HERETO.
7 MR. MCGOFF: You have heard read by
8 title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?
9 MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A
10 pass reading by title.
11 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
12 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? I
13 would just like to say I think Mr. Sbaraglia
14 brought up some interesting questions. I
15 certainly will make an attempt to look into
16 some of those things prior to next meeting
17 and -- oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, Mr. Sbaraglia,
18 I got the wrong one.
19 MR. SBARAGLIA: No, you are right in
20 the direction.
21 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else? All those
22 in favor?
23 MS. EVANS: Aye.
24 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
25 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
3 ayes have it and so moved.
4 MS. GARVEY: Just for a point of
5 information, the public hearing for this
6 legislation has been scheduled for
7 February 19.
8 MS. EVANS: And if I might add in the
9 back up, Mr. Sbaraglia, it does state that
10 the roadway and improvements were
11 constructed to the City of Scranton's
12 specifications and the city engineer has
13 inspected and found the roadways and
14 improvements to meet his satisfaction. Now,
15 my question would be, however, who is the
16 city engineer that this refers to?
17 MS. GATELLI: Are we still on
18 Smallcombe or on the next one?
19 MR. MCGOFF: Are we on 6-B?
20 MS. GARVEY: 6-A.
21 MS. EVANS: This is prior to 6-b.
22 MS. GATELLI: Smallcombe.
23 MR. COURTRIGHT: We didn't vote on
24 6-A yet, right?
25 MS. GATELLI: Yeah, we did.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: We are on this.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Are we on this one?
3 MS. GATELLI: Are you talking about
5 MR. COURTRIGHT: 6-B.
6 MS. EVANS: 6-A.
7 MS. GATELLI: 6-A, I'm sure that
8 would have been Parker.
9 MS. EVANS: He is still in our
11 MS. GATELLI: No, but I'm sure he was
12 when this was vacated. You can check it,
13 but, we did pass it, so --
14 MR. MCGOFF: I'll look into it, I'll
16 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
17 MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, Mrs. Garvey.
18 MS. GARVEY: 6-B. READING BY TITLE -
19 FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 2, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -
20 PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND DEDICATION
21 OF JAMESTOWN WAY CIRCLE AND PARK EDGE LANE;
22 AS WELL AS ALL THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM
23 UNDERLYING SAID STREETS AND RIGHTS-OF-WAY;
24 AL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED IMPROVEMENTS BEING
25 LOCATED IN THE KEYSER TERRACE SUBDIVISION IN
1 THE CITY OF SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA; ASLO
2 AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE
3 CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT FOR THE SUM OF ONE
4 DOLLAR ($1.00) AND TO RECORD IN THE OFFICIAL
5 RECORDS AT THE OFFICE OF THE RECORDER OF
6 DEEDS FOR LACKAWANNA COUNTY A DEED FOR THE
7 AFORESAID PUBLIC STREETS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
8 MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading
9 by title of Item 6-B, what is your pleasure?
10 MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-B
11 pass reading by title.
12 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
13 MR. MCGOFF: On the question?
14 MS. EVANS: Yes. Those remarks
15 pertained to 6-B rather than 6-A.
16 MR. MCGOFF: Yes. I got ahead of
17 myself, but I will try and find out.
18 MS. EVANS: Thank you.
19 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else? All those
20 in favor signify by saying aye.
21 MS. EVANS: Aye.
22 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
23 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
24 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
25 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
1 ayes have it and so moved.
2 MS. GARVEY: 6-C. READING BY TITLE -
3 FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 3, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -
4 AUTHORIZING THE AUCTION AND SALE OF
5 CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ACQUIRED PURSUANT TO THE
6 LACKAWANNA RIVER FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT,
7 SITUATED AT THE CORNER OF DIAMOND AVENUE AND
8 WOOD STREET, THE FORMER CORDARO BUILDING AND
9 RECORDED AT RECORD BOOK 0720- PAGE 325.
10 MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading
11 by title of Item 6-C, what is your pleasure?
12 MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-C
13 pass reading by title.
14 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
15 MR. MCGOFF: On the question?
16 MS. EVANS: Yes, I had a concern
17 initially regarding the auction costs and I
18 learned that those costs would be passed
19 along to the purchaser, so the City of
20 Scranton will not obviously assume the costs
21 for the auction itself.
22 MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on 6-C? All
23 those in favor signify by saying aye.
24 MS. EVANS: Aye.
25 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
1 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
2 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
3 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
4 ayes have it and so moved.
5 MS. GARVEY: 6-D. READING BY TITLE -
6 FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 4, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -
7 AMENDING FILE OF THE COUNCIL NO. 86, 1998
8 ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE "AMENDING FILE OF THE
9 COUNCIL NO. 148, 1993, ENTITLED "AN
10 ORDINANCE GOVERNING THE DESIGN,
11 CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, ENLARGEMENT,
12 REPAIR, DEMOLITION, REMOVAL, CONVERSION, USE
13 AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL BUILDINGS AND
14 STRUCTURES KNOWN AS THE BUILDING CODE;
15 PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS,
16 COLLECTION OF FEES, MAKING OF INSPECTION,
17 PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION
18 THEREOF, ESTABLISHING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS
19 FOR BUILDING UNDERWRITER INSPECTORS,
20 DECLARING AND ESTABLISHING FIRE LIMITS" BY
21 ADOPTING THE BOCA NATIONAL BUILDING CODE
22 1993, ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE HOUSING CODE,
23 TWELFTH EDITION" TO INSERT A NEW SECTION
24 2(d) AND ADJUSTING ALL LETTERS AND NUMBERS
1 MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading
2 by Title of Item 6-D, what is your pleasure?
3 MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that 6-D pass
4 Reading by Title.
5 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
6 MR. MCGOFF: On the question?
7 MS. GATELLI: Yes. I have a
8 question on this, they are adopting the fire
9 codes for BOCA and I would just like to have
10 an insertion, an amendment put in there, on
11 the second page under (e) it says, "No
12 certificate of occupancy shall be issued
13 until a final certificate is issued by the
14 building underwriter's agency," and I would
15 like that to also read, "And the Scranton
16 Fire Department Fire Chief or Fire
17 Inspection Office."
18 When I had occasion to work in
19 community development a lot of the
20 underwriters didn't have fire inspections
21 and if they did it wasn't as stringent as
22 the BOCA Code and I know that there were
23 some places that were inspected that didn't
24 have the proper amount of ingresses and
25 exits and I just think that the fire
1 inspector should also be included when a
2 commercial building is inspected. So, I
3 would like to have that inserted as an
4 amendment into this piece of legislation.
5 MR. MCGOFF: What section was that?
6 MS. GATELLI: It's the second page
7 under (e) where it says, "No certificate of
8 occupancy shall be issued until a final
9 certificate is issued by the building
10 underwriter's agency."
11 I don't think that's sufficient, I
12 think that the fire inspector should also
13 sign off on a certificate of occupancy, and
14 I don't know how we go about putting that
15 amendment in there.
16 MR. MCGOFF: Do we have to have a
17 motion to amend?
18 MR. MINORA: It has to be a motion
19 to amend.
20 MS. GATELLI: I'll make a motion to
22 MR. MINORA: So it's a motion to
23 amendment Section 1 00.
24 MS. GATELLI: File of Council No. 4,
1 MR. MCGOFF: Section 113.2.1 (e).
2 MS. FANUCCI: Second.
3 MR. MCGOFF: To, "No certificate of
4 occupancy shall be issued until final
5 certificate is issued by the building
6 underwriter's agency and --"
7 MS. GATELLI: And the Scranton Fire
9 MR. MCGOFF: "And the Scranton Fire
11 MS. GATELLI: Which would be the
12 chief or the fire inspector, but I think the
13 fire has to have a say in a certificate of
14 occupancy only from my having worked there
15 and I know the ramifications when it's not.
16 MR. MCGOFF: So the motion, the
17 amendment would read: "No certificate of
18 occupancy shall be issued until the final
19 certificate is issued by the building
20 underwriter's agency and the Scranton Fire
22 MS. GATELLI: That's my motion, Mrs.
23 Fanucci seconded it.
24 MS. FANUCCI: I seconded it.
25 MR. MCGOFF: On the question? All
1 those in favor?
2 MS. EVANS: Aye.
3 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
4 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
5 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
6 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
7 ayes have it and so moved.
8 MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.
9 MR. MCGOFF: We need to -- we
10 actually need to vote on 6-D.
11 MR. MINORA: You have to vote on "D",
12 that was a motion.
13 MR. MCGOFF: 6-D as amended.
14 MS. FANUCCI: Right.
15 MS. GATELLI: I'll make a motion
16 that we approve 6-D as amended.
17 MR. MCGOFF: Do we need to -- yeah,
18 we have already read it, so we are now
19 voting on 6-D.
20 MS. GATELLI: As amended.
21 MR. MCGOFF: As amended. Anyone else
22 on the question? All those in favor?
23 MS. EVANS: Aye.
24 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.
25 MS. GATELLI: Aye.
1 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.
2 MR. MCGOFF: Aye. Opposed? The
3 ayes have it and so moved.
4 MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER. 7-A. FOR
5 CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC
6 SAFETY - FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 2,
7 20O8 - APPROVING THE MODIFICATION OF
8 EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON SOUTH MAIN
9 AVENUE (SR 3013) AND LUZERNE STREET (SR
10 3014) TRAFFIC SIGNAL PERMIT NO. 6192.
11 MR. MCGOFF: What is the
12 recommendation of the Chairperson for the
13 Committee on Public Safety.
14 MR. COURTRIGHT: As Chairperson for
15 the Committee on Public Safety, I recommend
16 final passage of Item 7-A.