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            1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7              Tuesday, January 22, 2008

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                    Council Chambers

 

           11                 Scranton City Hall

 

           12              340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                            CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

 

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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                MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and

 

            2              moment of reflection observed.)

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:    Roll call.

 

            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Here.

 

            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Here.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Gatelli.

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI: Here.

 

           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here. Dispense with the

 

           14              reading of the minutes.

 

           15                      MS. GARVEY: THIRD ORDER.  3-A.

 

           16              CONTROLLER'S REPORT FOR THE MONTH ENDED

 

           17              DECEMBER 31, 2007.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           19              If not, received and filed.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B.  MINUTES OF THE

 

           21              COMPOSITE PENSION BOARD MEETING HELD ON

 

           22              DECEMBER 19, 2007.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           24              If not, received and filed.

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: That's it for third

 

 

 

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            1              order.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Before we go to

 

            3              citizens' participation, is there anyone who

 

            4              has any --

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Just two quick

 

            6              announcements.  First, in the 2300 block of

 

            7              North Washington Avenue as of about the last

 

            8              45 minutes a tractor trailer has taken a

 

            9              tree down in that block.  I have heard it's

 

           10              been uprooted as well.  There may be power

 

           11              lines involved, possibly Marywood University

 

           12              will be dismissed early, and I just would

 

           13              like to ask that everyone would avoid

 

           14              driving or walking in that area this evening

 

           15              until the proper measures have been taken.

 

           16                   Also, West Scranton Wrestling

 

           17              Invader-Mat boosters are sponsoring a night

 

           18              at the races at Saints Peter and Paul

 

           19              Russian Orthodox Church on Academy Street in

 

           20              West Scranton this Saturday, January 26th at

 

           21              7:00 p.m.  All proceeds benefit West

 

           22              Scranton wrestlers and admission to the

 

           23              night at the races is $10.00.  Tickets can

 

           24              be purchased at the door and admission

 

           25              includes food, soda, beer and coffee and, of

 

 

 

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            1              course, one must be 21 to be admitted.  Hope

 

            2              to see you there.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  Robert

 

            4              Neveroski.

 

            5                      MR. NEVEROSKI:  Ladies and

 

            6              gentlemen, Attorney Minora.  As you recall

 

            7              awhile back, I was down with the Hill

 

            8              Neighborhood Association running a

 

            9              fundraiser.  We sent over 500 letters to the

 

           10              business community and that and the response

 

           11              was -- I guess the city is having trouble,

 

           12              but nobody wants to donate, so we are in the

 

           13              same boat, people don't want to donate, and

 

           14              I'm surprised at the response we got from

 

           15              sending all five letters to the community

 

           16              but, anyway, that's it.  The people at the

 

           17              Himalayan Association generously donated

 

           18              $675.00.  Farley, who always supported us,

 

           19              gave $25.00.  Janet and Dave Evans gave

 

           20              $50.00 and Penn Security Bank gave $250.00

 

           21              so at this time I would like to present the

 

           22              city council a check for $1,000.00 made

 

           23              payable to the Scranton Police Force Canine

 

           24              Fund, if I may.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

 

 

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            1              Mr. Neverosky.

 

            2                      MR. NEVEROSKY: With that said, thank

 

            3              you, ladies and gentlemen.

 

            4                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  We can always

 

            5              count on the Hill Neighborhood Association.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.  Thank you very

 

            7              much.

 

            8                      MR. NEVEROSKY: My pleasure.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: The next speaker is

 

           10              Andrew Porter.

 

           11                      MR. PORTER:  Happy New Year.  Andrew

 

           12              Porter, citizen of Scranton.  This past

 

           13              weekend Martin Luther King, the Martin

 

           14              Luther King celebration throughout the city

 

           15              of Scranton was very impressive, very good.

 

           16              I found absolutely nothing wrong with it.

 

           17              You find something wrong with things -- when

 

           18              you find -- when you look for bad things you

 

           19              find bad things, but Martin Luther King was

 

           20              a good man just like the fireman who passed

 

           21              away recently, a good man.  We need to see

 

           22              black firemen put in our fires and savings

 

           23              people's lives, also.  That's what Martin

 

           24              Luther King stood for.

 

           25                      Martin Luther King is the moral

 

 

 

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            1              conscience of America and I and you, as

 

            2              citizens of Scranton, are the moral

 

            3              conscience of Scranton.  And so what we need

 

            4              to do now is we need to work together, let

 

            5              me just back up for just a second and say

 

            6              that Martin Luther King, who is he and where

 

            7              did he come from?  Actually, Martin Luther

 

            8              King is a descendant of slaves like myself.

 

            9              Can you believe at one point in time that

 

           10              the backbone of this country was actually

 

           11              slaves for over a 300-year period in this

 

           12              country.  Coming out of slavery during the

 

           13              civil rights movement we had people like

 

           14              Martin Luther King who risked his life not

 

           15              just for people that looked like me, but for

 

           16              all of those.  Now, this celebration this

 

           17              past weekend was a wonderful thing for the

 

           18              city to have had a response from or be a

 

           19              part of it.  It's a great thing, but it's

 

           20              only one day.  It's only one day.  It's only

 

           21              two days, all right, a lot of people were

 

           22              there, there were some people there and a

 

           23              lot of dignitaries there, preachers, a few

 

           24              preachers, a few reverends and a few rabbis

 

           25              in a couple of days does not make for a good

 

 

 

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            1              year, does not make for a good year, that

 

            2              was one or two days.  We need to duplicate

 

            3              that.

 

            4                      Me as a business person, I come to

 

            5              you again and I say that I need assistance.

 

            6              I come with a plan because you say that we

 

            7              need a plan and my thing is that take the

 

            8              plan and take a look at it, and see if it

 

            9              has some viability to it and let's do

 

           10              something with it.  Help me.  This is what

 

           11              we need to do, we need to help each other.

 

           12                   Now, it's a political miracle that

 

           13              stands before you on the city council and

 

           14              Mr. McGoff and maybe a year or even less

 

           15              than a year how he can come from an

 

           16              appointment to -- and it has nothing to do

 

           17              with the mayor, it actually has nothing to

 

           18              do with the mayor because, see, the mayor

 

           19              did not elect Mr. McGoff, the people elected

 

           20              him, and what our father says is that we

 

           21              have to come together as a people.  These

 

           22              good people up here in the city council

 

           23              lacking of a person that looks like myself,

 

           24              I mean, hey, at one point in time you didn't

 

           25              have women, now you got three up there, and

 

 

 

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            1              they are all friends and they are all happy

 

            2              and they are trying to do the right thing

 

            3              and if they are not doing the right thing

 

            4              then we as citizens need to step in and make

 

            5              sure certain that they do the right thing

 

            6              and so people make mistakes, but we help

 

            7              each other and we try to help each other

 

            8              correct those mistakes, all right?  We try

 

            9              to bring people into the fold not remove

 

           10              them from the fold and so I come to you with

 

           11              good news today that Scranton is the chosen

 

           12              city, forget the chosen people, Scranton is

 

           13              the chosen city, all right, and we have to

 

           14              work together as a people, all right?  Our

 

           15              firemen, people like Martin Luther King,

 

           16              people who risked their lives each and every

 

           17              day who don't waiver back and forth, who

 

           18              every time that you see them they are always

 

           19              the same, their posture is the same.  We

 

           20              need to posture ourselves as people.  We

 

           21              need to start loving each other.

 

           22                      One thing I can remember about

 

           23              Martin Luther King and one of the things

 

           24              that I remember him saying is that when he

 

           25              went into those wards and seen those babies

 

 

 

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            1              in incubators and those innocent kids, they

 

            2              didn't know where they were white, black,

 

            3              green, yellow, Chinese or whatever.  They

 

            4              didn't know that.  We taught them that.  We

 

            5              thought them that.  Programs were put in

 

            6              place to compensate for some of the things

 

            7              that were done to the people like my

 

            8              ancestors, people that look like me, grants,

 

            9              and so on and so forth, the complexion of

 

           10              those things have changed, but let's look at

 

           11              what it is that we have today that we can

 

           12              work with and we have each other.  We are a

 

           13              great city if you are inclusive of all

 

           14              people.  If you are not, you lose.  You take

 

           15              the best qualified people, you take people

 

           16              that got ideas.  You also take people that

 

           17              want to bring business into this city.  I

 

           18              propose that the business that I bring to

 

           19              you would start with 8 to 10 jobs in opening

 

           20              day.  These are the kind of things that we

 

           21              want.  We need to nourish our children.  We

 

           22              need to, Britney Spears, they are walking

 

           23              around in forms of young men and young woman

 

           24              and what do we do?  We are going to laugh

 

           25              and poke fun at them?  No, we are not going

 

 

 

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            1              to do that, we are going to love them.  We

 

            2              are going to show them where they are wrong.

 

            3              We are going to bring them to the levels of

 

            4              where they need to be, and this is what

 

            5              Martin wanted, and I think this is what we

 

            6              all want as a city, greatness in our city,

 

            7              not for me, for you, for God.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much, Mr.

 

            9              Porter.  Andy Sbaraglia.

 

           10                      MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

 

           11              citizen of Scranton.  Fellow Scrantonians,

 

           12              on your 6-B, "Providing for the acceptance

 

           13              and dedication of Jamestown Way Circle and

 

           14              Park Edge Lane.  Are you proposing to spend

 

           15              $1.00 to buy a million dollars worth of

 

           16              liability?  This project I think was done in

 

           17              1994.  It's an old project.  Now, we are

 

           18              coming up where you don't even know if the

 

           19              sewer systems are separated up there.  The

 

           20              drainage from the waste.  Now, you are going

 

           21              to spend a buck and have us pay for God know

 

           22              how much money to rip up all of them streets

 

           23              which they are required to do now.  This is

 

           24              isn't a new project, this is an old project

 

           25              and as an old project they must have been

 

 

 

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            1              taking care of the streets themselves

 

            2              because we would've already own them.  Since

 

            3              we don't own them we have to look to why

 

            4              they want us to own them now other than the

 

            5              fact that relieves them of a lot, a lot of

 

            6              responsibility like plowing, taking care of

 

            7              streets, but the sewer system is the worst

 

            8              because if they haven't already done it, we

 

            9              got to rip up every street up there and put

 

           10              in drainage and that's going to cost a lot

 

           11              of money and this is what they are giving us

 

           12              for a buck.  To tell you the truth, it's not

 

           13              worth it.  Their buck is one thing, but to

 

           14              us to spend a buck to require that's

 

           15              ridiculous.  It's just something you have --

 

           16              you have to do an in-depth study of that

 

           17              project and why at this time they want to

 

           18              give it to us, sell it to us, well, actually

 

           19              it's a gift, one buck to pay for it isn't

 

           20              exactly a huge amount, but this project

 

           21              definitely should be looked into very well.

 

           22                   I looked at some of the dates on that,

 

           23              CECO think did it over there in 1994, some

 

           24              of the dates on it, on that project.  We are

 

           25              talking about 208 today.  They see a huge

 

 

 

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            1              expense coming, and I don't blame them, I

 

            2              would try to dump it as soon as I could,

 

            3              too, they should have dumped it a long time

 

            4              ago and not when we are ready to have -- to

 

            5              pay to rip all of these streets out.  This

 

            6              is not a very nice project and if you look

 

            7              at the legislation themselves you see we are

 

            8              getting nothing, all we are getting is

 

            9              liability.  And to give a buck for

 

           10              $1 million worth of liability definitely

 

           11              isn't worth it because that's all you are

 

           12              buying is liability.  You are not buying

 

           13              anything really tangible.  You got to

 

           14              maintain streets.  You got to -- if the

 

           15              sewer system isn't divided we got to pay to

 

           16              divide it and this is what you are getting

 

           17              for your dollar, a lot of expense, so I'd

 

           18              wish look into it a little more before you

 

           19              pass and see how much liability you are

 

           20              actually getting with this dollar, how much

 

           21              are we actually buying?  There is no way for

 

           22              me to tell you because I don't even know if

 

           23              the streets are up to par, if they are built

 

           24              to specifications because this project was

 

           25              done long ago and it's their own property.

 

 

 

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            1              They must have been maintaining it and if

 

            2              they were they probably don't even meet our

 

            3              codes.

 

            4                      Up there at Tripps Park we haven't

 

            5              accepted that project for a lot of reasons,

 

            6              but there we are.  We didn't accept it

 

            7              because we knew it was it would cost the

 

            8              city a lot of money to make them -- take

 

            9              that project up to code.  This other project

 

           10              that just comes before you a new project,

 

           11              hey, we'll sell it to you for a buck.  All

 

           12              you're buying is liability and that's the

 

           13              sad part about it, you don't even know what

 

           14              the fire system is up there like even if it

 

           15              was built to code.  God only knows, because

 

           16              apparently it was a private development for

 

           17              a lot of years and now they want to make it

 

           18              sort of public or they want you to make it

 

           19              public and that's not quite right.

 

           20                      I suggest that you look into it, ask

 

           21              the city engineer and the planning

 

           22              commission and everything that went with

 

           23              this to see exactly what was done at that

 

           24              time, I mean, for a buck and you got time.

 

           25              I mean, there is no reason why we have to

 

 

 

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            1              rush into this.  If everything is up to par,

 

            2              fine.  If it isn't up to par then it should

 

            3              be corrected before you take responsibility

 

            4              for it because that's the only way you can

 

            5              actually protect the taxpayers of Scranton

 

            6              and, believe me, they need taxpayers, they

 

            7              need protection.  Thank you.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

            9              Mr. Sbaraglia.  Ozzie Quinn.

 

           10                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, Taxpayers'

 

           11              Association.  Judy, do you have that list

 

           12              for me for the UDAG and the -- it's been

 

           13              three months?

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI:  I called her today and

 

           15              she said that I should ask the president.

 

           16                      MR. QUINN:  Ask who?

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Ask the president to

 

           18              request it.

 

           19                      MR. QUINN: The president to request

 

           20              it?

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI:  The president of

 

           22              council.

 

           23                      MR. QUINN:  Mr. McGoff, will you ask

 

           24              her?

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes, I will.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. QUINN: Thank you.  Tell her I'd

 

            2              appreciate it if you could get it this week,

 

            3              I don't want to continue on, okay?  The

 

            4              relationship here that I want to talk about

 

            5              5-I, Mrs. Fanucci, you are the CDBG

 

            6              cochairperson, the chairperson; right?

 

            7              These -- what we are doing here is we are

 

            8              taking money from the CDBG program and going

 

            9              way back, which I spoke about, where this

 

           10              money is coming from and it was approved by

 

           11              past councils, approved and never executed,

 

           12              all right?  What are these projects?  We

 

           13              mentioned project numbers.  Project number

 

           14              92-292, okay?  Project so and so, $50,000

 

           15              from project 96204 and you know what it

 

           16              amounts to $60,712.34.  What for?

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Quinn, I can give

 

           18              this to you --

 

           19                      MR. QUINN: Is it all right if I come

 

           20              up there?

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Go ahead.

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: -- and it explains

 

           23              exactly what projects the money was taken

 

           24              from.

 

           25                      MR. QUINN:  Thank you.  See, this is

 

 

 

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            1              something we don't know about and we

 

            2              wouldn't know about unless we had Channel 61

 

            3              and, actually, this was taken from historic

 

            4              preservation revolving loan from

 

            5              computerized map of the building, central

 

            6              city literally, Jackson Street playground,

 

            7              senior craftsmen shop and, you know what,

 

            8              total $60,700 for what?  Tree planting.

 

            9              Tree planting.  Tree planting.  We have

 

           10              people who can just about make it today in

 

           11              Scranton, half of our people -- half of our

 

           12              people are making under $31,000 and you want

 

           13              to pass an ordinance that nobody knows about

 

           14              except Mrs. Evans.

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Are you speaking to

 

           16              me?

 

           17                      MR. QUINN: No, she is out of order.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: That's why I asked.

 

           19                      MR. QUINN:  She is out of order.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  You did ask address

 

           21              her.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI: You did ask me the

 

           23              question.

 

           24                      MR. QUINN: But, she didn't answer.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: I didn't have time to

 

 

 

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            1              answer.  I was waiting to see who wanted me

 

            2              to answer.

 

            3                      MR. QUINN: Well, you can't answer

 

            4              it, that's good --

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Go ahead, Mr. Quinn.

 

            6                      MR. QUINN:  But these projects,

 

            7              nobody knows where they are coming from,

 

            8              Mrs. Evans knows where they are coming from,

 

            9              do you know where they are coming from?  No.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: We all have the same

 

           11              information.

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: We have the same --

 

           13                      MR. QUINN: Well, how come it's not

 

           14              up here?  How come we don't know?  The only

 

           15              way we will know, you are asking us to pass

 

           16              an introduction of a resolution for $60,000

 

           17              and you are asking us without the knowledge

 

           18              of where that money is coming from and it's

 

           19              going into tree planting.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: We are not asking you

 

           21              to pass it.

 

           22                      MR. QUINN: That's bizarre.  That's

 

           23              bizarre, and I take issue with that because

 

           24              if people who are burning their fuel like

 

           25              it's going out of the chimney, a lot of

 

 

 

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            1              people haven't even had their chimneys

 

            2              necessary cleaned because they can't afford

 

            3              it.  A lot of people their houses are drafts

 

            4              because there is not enough money going in

 

            5              the low income housing, the people that own

 

            6              housing that is low income and you want to

 

            7              plant trees, what are they for?  Tree

 

            8              planting.  Come on.  What are they for,

 

            9              Mrs. Fanucci?  Do you agree with this?

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Quinn, what are you

 

           11              asking?

 

           12                      MR. QUINN:  Why are you taking --

 

           13              this money here is part of the money that I

 

           14              ask for three months ago from Mrs. Gatelli,

 

           15              okay?  Now, they are taking the money, some

 

           16              of the money and they are taking out of

 

           17              these projects and they are taking it for

 

           18              tree planting.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Correct.

 

           20                      MR. QUINN: Why don't they use the

 

           21              money to help the people in this city?  I'm

 

           22              sure Mr. and Mrs. Smith over in South Side

 

           23              who is huddled up there trying to keep warm

 

           24              is worried about tree planting.  My

 

           25              goodness, you people should be ashamed for

 

 

 

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            1              even passing it, for even bringing this up

 

            2              for introduction.  We didn't even -- we

 

            3              don't even know unless we find this out

 

            4              tonight.  That is shameful, I resent it, and

 

            5              the poor people, too, you got -- and all

 

            6              those introduction tonight, all of those

 

            7              resolutions, ordinances from A to H, you

 

            8              know with taxes, taxes, taxes, taxes, you

 

            9              know, and then you wouldn't to go tree

 

           10              planting.  Come on.  Let's get our facts in

 

           11              order, our priorities.

 

           12                      We are living in a very, very bad

 

           13              situation here in the City of Scranton.

 

           14              People are freezing, people don't have

 

           15              enough money tougher health or for food.

 

           16              Let's get it together.  As president you

 

           17              should take the ball on this, you said you

 

           18              were going to have knowledge of this and

 

           19              explain it to the people.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.

 

           21              Mr. Bolus.

 

           22                      MR. BOLUS: Good evening, Council.

 

           23              Bob Bolus, Scranton.  On the agenda, I'm

 

           24              looking at 5-D, 5-E, 5-F, you know, this is

 

           25              just taking the city apart here.  You know,

 

 

 

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            1              we are putting more taxes on people we

 

            2              should be cutting them, cutting the millage

 

            3              here against the people, the businesses in

 

            4              this city.  We have a refuse over here, we

 

            5              should actually be going after the

 

            6              landfills, the leachate line that comes down

 

            7              here, as a host community we should be

 

            8              charging per gallon alongside with what the

 

            9              sewer authority charges to cut our costs

 

           10              here.  We have a lot of other areas of

 

           11              revenue out there and nobody is bothering to

 

           12              loo, but it's harming the people.  You know,

 

           13              the businesses are getting hammered here,

 

           14              you know, you are on net income, I mean,

 

           15              come on, there is enough going on here.  The

 

           16              mayor, and the reason I came here today, is

 

           17              72 percent of the people voted for a

 

           18              recovery plan, 28 percent against.  I'm glad

 

           19              I was part of the 28 percent.  100 percent

 

           20              of the people want Chris Doherty now if this

 

           21              plan does go through to put his money where

 

           22              his mouth is and that's in the City of

 

           23              Scranton, not into Nay Aug, not into his

 

           24              private little projects, not taking care of

 

           25              the University of Scranton, the KOZ's, the

 

 

 

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            1              nonprofits.  If you look here we have a

 

            2              garbage fee.  I've come here many times in

 

            3              the past questioning why we don't impose a

 

            4              fee unilaterally right across the city.  It

 

            5              affects residents, business KOZ's and

 

            6              nonprofits, it takes some creativity to be

 

            7              done, but nobody in the city seems to want

 

            8              to do it, so we climb over the dollars to

 

            9              get at the pennies.  It's time now for this

 

           10              council to do something.

 

           11                      Tonight I would like to ask this

 

           12              council to put back the million five that

 

           13              you took out of the golf course fund plus

 

           14              interest, the remaining million five is to

 

           15              be put in a trust so it can't be touched

 

           16              again.  Chris Doherty has criticized the

 

           17              unions, the fire department, the police

 

           18              department and everybody else saying the

 

           19              city is where it is because they have

 

           20              created the problem.  To the contrary, they

 

           21              protect us here.  The problem is Chris

 

           22              Doherty is administration, getting raises,

 

           23              doing the things that they do that's adverse

 

           24              to running a solid business.  He is a

 

           25              businessman, his business makes money

 

 

 

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            1              because he knows where to put it, where to

 

            2              take it from.  Here is taking from the

 

            3              seniors, the private sector people, the

 

            4              businesses that put interest in here and he

 

            5              is not looking at anyone else.  You need a

 

            6              plan, you need to put a fee on everyone, you

 

            7              the University is taking over the City of

 

            8              Scranton, people don't like to hear it,

 

            9              well, look it, they can't put enough people

 

           10              in there that's how many people are coming

 

           11              there.  That's how much money they are

 

           12              making in their nonprofit, they are taking

 

           13              millions and they are taking the city over,

 

           14              and it's the responsibility of this council

 

           15              to start looking out for the people in the

 

           16              City of Scranton by imposing a fee

 

           17              unilaterally in this city, by taking the

 

           18              $1.5 million plus interest and protecting it

 

           19              so it can't be squandered as it was last

 

           20              year, making the mayor, if this recovery

 

           21              plan passes, to take the million five back

 

           22              and put it back into the golf course fee, it

 

           23              belongs to the people in this city, it

 

           24              belonged in parks and recreation.  We

 

           25              squandered it.  It's time for us to be

 

 

 

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            1              accountable and put it back where it

 

            2              belongs.  I championed those fights to

 

            3              protect this money and this council took a

 

            4              million five last year and give it to Chris

 

            5              Doherty while he could squander it.  He

 

            6              didn't put it into the police department, he

 

            7              didn't put it into the fire department, he

 

            8              didn't put it anywhere else but into it's

 

            9              own private sandbox, and it's time that it

 

           10              has to stop, and that's why I'm here today.

 

           11              I'm here a resident of this city, proud to

 

           12              be a resident of this city, not proud of

 

           13              what's happening to this city.

 

           14                      Our tax base is decreased and the

 

           15              only way you are successful is you increase

 

           16              your tax base, not erode it and chase people

 

           17              out of this city, chase businesses out of

 

           18              this city.  We are the laughing stock of the

 

           19              country if you really look around what we

 

           20              wee are doing.  You can buy a house here for

 

           21              free practically.  All other people are paid

 

           22              because they are decrees.  We have devalued

 

           23              our area, that's why everybody is coming

 

           24              here buying because it's cheap.  We got to

 

           25              get back where we are not cheap, we to got

 

 

 

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            1              get back to where you pay for what you get

 

            2              and we are not getting what we should be

 

            3              getting in this city.  The leachate line,

 

            4              look at putting in windows along the top of

 

            5              the ridges surrounding this community and

 

            6              reduce our electric expense, we could do

 

            7              that.  We have the resources, you have the

 

            8              power to do this.  This is what Scranton

 

            9              needs.  It needs to go in a different

 

           10              direction.  We've got to go outside of the

 

           11              box and that's not being done.  This man has

 

           12              run this city into the ground, he has

 

           13              demoralized the police department, the fire

 

           14              department.  We had an officer in the fire

 

           15              department that gave his life for this city

 

           16              doing his job and now he wants to chop

 

           17              everybody down in those departments.  I

 

           18              would say to the mayor, Ray Hayes or anybody

 

           19              else, walk in their shoes every single day.

 

           20              Institute a fitness program.  Work out with

 

           21              them everyday, you lead by example and the

 

           22              example we are getting right now is not the

 

           23              example we need to show these young kids

 

           24              today and the businesses that want to come

 

           25              here that we can be progressive, we can be

 

 

 

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            1              financially straight, we are distressed.

 

            2              Distressed means we are broke, means we

 

            3              cannot run our city, we cannot do what needs

 

            4              to be done.  Was that one bell or two bells?

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: That was the final.

 

            6                      MR. BOLUS: Is there more then or is

 

            7              that up?

 

            8                      MR. MINORA: You are over your time.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: That was it.

 

           10                      MR. BOLUS: Oh, I didn't know that.

 

           11              I haven't been around the bell ringing for a

 

           12              long time.  Thank you.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Bolus.

 

           14              Mr. Stucker.  Jim Stucker.

 

           15                      MR. STUCKER:  How you doing?  Jim

 

           16              Stucker, I live at Market Street.  Okay, we

 

           17              have a little problem with the drains, they

 

           18              are all full of leaves, all over the City of

 

           19              Scranton.  They are not picking up the

 

           20              leaves anywhere they are supposed to pick

 

           21              up, the city ain't picking them up at all.

 

           22              And up by Market Street there is a place

 

           23              there by the laundry mat they are parking

 

           24              their cars there, there is no sign there,

 

           25              they're parking, there is no signs there.

 

 

 

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            1              We need a sign of up there no parking.

 

            2              Right next to -- right across the street

 

            3              from Mrs. Rupp's up the top of the hill by

 

            4              the Dixon Laundry Mat.  They got a lot of

 

            5              room in the parking lots and they are not

 

            6              parking in the parking lots when they have

 

            7              Mrs. Durr, they have -- there used to be a

 

            8              lot of people that go there and they park in

 

            9              the Taurus Club parking lot and there is no

 

           10              more room in there, they are parking up the

 

           11              street coming down the hill and it's hard

 

           12              time coming down the hill or up the hill, so

 

           13              we've got to have something done there and

 

           14              put a sign or something there no parking.

 

           15                   And down by Murphy's Bar, between

 

           16              Murphy's Bar and the barber shop they still

 

           17              didn't cut that grass and weeds there.  They

 

           18              still could do that, and they are going to

 

           19              have to do something about it because I used

 

           20              to do it and I'm not doing it no more.

 

           21                      We got problem with the buses.

 

           22              People can't -- the one girl fell off the

 

           23              bus the other day.  I helped her up,

 

           24              couldn't get the bus to the curb because a

 

           25              car was in the way after nine to the Globe

 

 

 

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            1              Store.

 

            2                      And I need some work.  I don't care

 

            3              what kind or I don't care what it is, but I

 

            4              need some work.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, we'll look in the

 

            6              parking problems for you.

 

            7                      MR. STUCKER: Yeah, because the

 

            8              laundry mat parking lot the city owns it.

 

            9              They still leave the leaves along that

 

           10              middle thing where the cars park, that

 

           11              middle divider, the leaves are on both sides

 

           12              of it and there is a bunch of junk out

 

           13              there, can and bottles, I tried my best to

 

           14              pick them up and they're doing a -- the fire

 

           15              company again and back up there again with

 

           16              the fire company to pick up the garbage and

 

           17              cans because I'm off, I'm off paying the

 

           18              fines off now so I'm happy for that.  And

 

           19              our garbage has been picked up a lot, so I'm

 

           20              happy for that.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: All right, Jim, thank

 

           22              you very much.

 

           23                      MR. STUCKER: And, Tom, I want you to

 

           24              come over and pick me up at -- come over and

 

           25              pick me up and take me home, Tom.  He told

 

 

 

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            1              me to leave it on --

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Jim.

 

            3                      MR. STUCKER: He told me to leave it

 

            4              on there.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay, thank you very

 

            6              much.  Pat DeSarno.

 

            7                      MR. DESARNO: Thank you.  Please bear

 

            8              with me voice tonight.  Pat Desarno.

 

            9              Mr. Courtright and Mrs. Evans, and I can

 

           10              assure you that -- I can assure you both,

 

           11              I'm sorry, that it will take a lot more to

 

           12              disparage you in the eyes of the Scranton

 

           13              Fire Department than some insensitive

 

           14              remarks prompted by some sort of sick,

 

           15              convoluted reasoning.  We know who has

 

           16              always been there to assure that at the very

 

           17              least we are dealt with fairly.  We know who

 

           18              genuinely bore hearts equally as heavy as

 

           19              ours just as we know those who insult us

 

           20              with fane sympathies.  I can also assure you

 

           21              that unlike some of the sycophants

 

           22              associated with this administration I take

 

           23              my cues from no one.

 

           24                      Mantras abound in this city, and I

 

           25              don't want to rehash things, but in light of

 

 

 

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            1              some very recent events we are sure to be

 

            2              bombarded by many of them and,

 

            3              unfortunately, they are allowed to be

 

            4              blurted out with no one demanded explanation

 

            5              or elaboration.  One definition caught my

 

            6              eye.  The writing that is generated and

 

            7              repeated in adoration of deity, how

 

            8              apropros.  Mrs. Fanucci, you have invoked

 

            9              these beauties:  Investing in the city, no

 

           10              recovery without contracts, and attracting

 

           11              people, qualified people with salary.

 

           12                      A comment, if I may.  Raises were

 

           13              given to people already working for the city

 

           14              so it appeared to me that those people had

 

           15              already been attracted by the previously

 

           16              lower salary, ergo, no raise should have

 

           17              been necessary.  Maybe some day you can work

 

           18              in a 24-hour city somewhere down the line.

 

           19                   Now, I have saved my favorite for last,

 

           20              and this one was taken from the council

 

           21              minutes, "It's the number one reasons

 

           22              businesses look at -- how is your

 

           23              entertainment, how is your parks and

 

           24              recreation.  First thing that they look at

 

           25              when they are coming it.  That's it.  First.

 

 

 

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            1              Number one thing.  Whether you like it or

 

            2              not it's the first thing.  Number one."

 

            3                      Well, I for one am tired of mantras,

 

            4              I want elaborations.  I took it upon myself

 

            5              to do some research that I put in the

 

            6              following key words, "What businesses look

 

            7              for when locating or relocating?  "

 

            8                      Number one, multi-channel merchant

 

            9              said, transportation costs, labor costs.

 

           10              Availability to meet staffing needs.

 

           11              Facilities' costs, state and local

 

           12              government sales.

 

           13                      Entrepreneur magazine: Number one,

 

           14              access to markets and customers.  Number

 

           15              two, labor pool related to type of business,

 

           16              and there is a little box on that website

 

           17              knowing what to ask it says, "Answering

 

           18              these 22 questions for each of the sights

 

           19              you are considering can help you decide on

 

           20              the best location for your business and

 

           21              neither state or local park system nor a

 

           22              number of entertaining venues were among any

 

           23              of them.

 

           24                      Let's do business.com:  Incentives,

 

           25              i.e, tax breaks.  Cost and quality of local

 

 

 

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            1              work force.

 

            2                      Business Today:  Incentives.  They

 

            3              actually went as far as saying, "A good work

 

            4              force, transportation system and utilities

 

            5              alone just won't cut it."

 

            6                      Now, I -- pardon me.  Additionally,

 

            7              I visited the Staubach Corporation website,

 

            8              you know, they are the realtors handling the

 

            9              giant political white elephant commonly

 

           10              known as the Southern Union building.  Now,

 

           11              that's a property that should be considered

 

           12              a prime state of the art piece of realty.

 

           13              One would assume that no selling points,

 

           14              large or small, should be overlooked or

 

           15              omitted.  The property is easily found and

 

           16              it's on page two.  One of those is titled

 

           17              demographics.  I clicked on it and I found

 

           18              this, four pages that list population,

 

           19              population change, housing, income, retail

 

           20              sales volume, nothing about parks.  And just

 

           21              to be thorough, just to be thorough, I

 

           22              clicked the features link and I found this,

 

           23              there is nine items, seven of which pertain

 

           24              to construction and building amenities.  The

 

           25              remaining two features are KOEZ, it says,

 

 

 

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            1              KIZ, but maybe it means KOZ eligible

 

            2              facility.  The secondary remaining is close

 

            3              to new Hilton motel, maybe it's a hotel, and

 

            4              Steamtown Mall.  No mention of Nay Aug Park

 

            5              or even the Scranton Cultural Center.  You

 

            6              know what, I just had an epiphany, I'm going

 

            7              to contact Miss Susan Ruch, she is the

 

            8              Staubach's point person for the project

 

            9              property and suggest that she add close to

 

           10              Nay Aug Park and the Scranton Cultural

 

           11              Center to the features.  I'm sure that will

 

           12              jump start some interest and some offers

 

           13              will probably start rolling in.

 

           14                      Now, Mrs. Fanucci, I just cited five

 

           15              sources that show that your parks rant is

 

           16              pretty much nothing more than parrot an

 

           17              dribble, and I challenge you to cite the

 

           18              source of your comments, and if you can't

 

           19              then I suggest that you refrain from

 

           20              uttering anymore catch phrases until you are

 

           21              provided with some back up by those who cue

 

           22              you.  I'll give you a week.  See you next

 

           23              Tuesday.  Thank you.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. DeSarno.

 

           25              Mr. Spindler.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council,

 

            2              Les Spindler, city resident.  Last week I

 

            3              brought in a Supreme Court decision about

 

            4              free speech and Mr. McGoff made a comment

 

            5              after I left that opinion was a different

 

            6              venue and different circumstances.  Well,

 

            7              free speech is free speech, it doesn't

 

            8              matter what the venue.  The constitution

 

            9              says so and the United States Supreme Court

 

           10              says so and --

 

           11                      MR. MINORA:  That's incorrect.

 

           12                      MR. SPINDLER: -- in the Sunday -- he

 

           13              is out of order, this is my time, I didn't

 

           14              ask his opinion.  In the December 16 Doherty

 

           15              Newsletter there is three examples here of

 

           16              free speech by a Chris Kelly and one is a

 

           17              woman from west side that was yelling at her

 

           18              toilet, that case was thrown out.  She was

 

           19              swearing at the toilet and she had every

 

           20              right to do so.  Another case here a

 

           21              gentleman caught in traffic downtown in the

 

           22              traffic accident got out of his car because

 

           23              he couldn't move, he was swearing everybody

 

           24              around there and nothing was done to the

 

           25              gentleman.  Another case here Michigan when

 

 

 

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            1              a man tipped over in his canoe and the man

 

            2              was arrested, the case went to appeal and

 

            3              the case was overturned, so there is three

 

            4              separate cases where people swearing out in

 

            5              public and it is allowed.  Sure, there are

 

            6              restrictions of free speech.  You can't go

 

            7              into a crowded theatre and yell fire, that

 

            8              could cause a panic.  I don't remember

 

            9              anybody in here causing a panic ever.  You

 

           10              can't make threats against anybody, but if

 

           11              somebody wants to come in here and make

 

           12              allegations against a council person they

 

           13              have right every right to do so.  If those

 

           14              allegations are false they can be sued for

 

           15              slander, but as far as free speech we have

 

           16              free speech at this podium and the first

 

           17              time I'm told here that I can't say

 

           18              something we'll see you in Federal Court.

 

           19                   Next thing, Mrs. Fanucci, a few months

 

           20              ago I said Poochie was closing.  The

 

           21              following week you said, no, they're having

 

           22              shows and this and that, well, guess what?

 

           23              If you go by today there is a sign in the

 

           24              window, "Poochie is now closed."

 

           25                      So, once again I was right and you

 

 

 

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            1              were wrong.  And another thing about

 

            2              companies moving into the city look at

 

            3              parks, Pat DeSarno stole some of my thunder

 

            4              on this, this is from Entrepreneur magazine,

 

            5              the top five reasons that businesses look at

 

            6              when moving in a city:  Work force.  Are

 

            7              there another qualified workers to do the

 

            8              job in the area?  Number two, facilities.

 

            9              Are there any existing facilities suitable

 

           10              for use.  Number three, tax considerations.

 

           11              How much will I be paying in taxes per year

 

           12              and can I get a break?  Number four, land

 

           13              availability.  If I have to build what is

 

           14              the cost and the availability?  Number five,

 

           15              quality of life.  Schools, recreation,

 

           16              crime, parks might fall in another five.

 

           17              Number one, Mrs. Fanucci, you don't have a

 

           18              clue.  Thank you.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.

 

           20                      MR. MINORA: Just so we have it

 

           21              clear, none of the cases he cited have

 

           22              anything to do with a public meeting and

 

           23              forums such as this.  The cases cited by

 

           24              Judge Mazzoni and Judge Nealon cite all of

 

           25              the Supreme Court cases and state court

 

 

 

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            1              court cases that deal with public speaking

 

            2              at a public forum such as this as opposed to

 

            3              out in the open or park or courthouse steps

 

            4              where there is no city business to be done.

 

            5              So, just so we don't have anything

 

            6              completely wrong on the record about the

 

            7              First Amendment, I'd like to say that and if

 

            8              you need these cases I'll be glad to show

 

            9              them to you.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: And those are the cases

 

           11              that we have been using as precedent and

 

           12              will continue to.  Thank you.  Mr. Newcomb.

 

           13                      MR. NEWCOMB: Good evening, Council.

 

           14              Happy New Year.  I just have a two

 

           15              questions, and you can answer them if you

 

           16              want when I get done with my presentation or

 

           17              if you don't have them this week you can let

 

           18              me know down the road, just a question, I'm

 

           19              definitely here about the recovery plan.

 

           20              When I read it in the paper this morning I

 

           21              know everybody on council has stated their

 

           22              opinion on the recovery plan which I

 

           23              appreciate it, everybody is entitled to

 

           24              their opinion, but I'm going to give you a

 

           25              little bit about mine.  The first thing I

 

 

 

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            1              have is I wrote 7.2 million, it might have

 

            2              been 7.5 so if I wrote it down wrong I

 

            3              apologize, but this morning's paper said

 

            4              that the mayor said he was going to hold 7.2

 

            5              million dollars capped for the health care

 

            6              it said for all employees, city employees.

 

            7              I'd like it know just that mean just the

 

            8              union employees or does it mean all of the

 

            9              employees.  I don't know what -- because

 

           10              that definitely makes a big difference in

 

           11              the money to go around, and what I'd like to

 

           12              know, if somebody can answer, how does it

 

           13              reflect me as a taxpayer, me, meaning the

 

           14              taxpayer in the City of Scranton and I'd

 

           15              like to know how does the quality of life

 

           16              issue by giving our police chief $13,000

 

           17              race and our fire chief a $13,000 raise and

 

           18              our fire chief a raise, if we are supposed

 

           19              to be distressed and I'd just like to know

 

           20              to those three questions how does that

 

           21              benefit us as taypayers for coming up with

 

           22              these raises.

 

           23                      And as far as the Recovery Plan

 

           24              goes, I'd state it from the go and I'll

 

           25              state it again, when it went in in 2002 I

 

 

 

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            1              definitely voted against the Recovery Plan

 

            2              and I know 72 percent I think it was in the

 

            3              paper was quoted that they did, but I don't

 

            4              really know how much big of an election turn

 

            5              out it was that day, but the only thing I

 

            6              would have to say now if the election was

 

            7              held tomorrow and you know what you know now

 

            8              would we really vote the same way when we

 

            9              seen all of these raises going to officials

 

           10              and I understand everybody is entitled to a

 

           11              decent raise but you can't tell me that this

 

           12              is a fair situation when the union hasn't

 

           13              got a raise in six years and people are

 

           14              getting a $13,000 raise and there are some

 

           15              people out there working that aren't getting

 

           16              $13,000 because they don't have to pay the

 

           17              $52 I believe if it's under $12,000 for the

 

           18              tax so I think this is definitely unfair and

 

           19              if this does go in are we going to get a

 

           20              break on our taxes because the mayor is

 

           21              supposed to have all of this money.

 

           22                      I think this is just a balance.

 

           23              It's hard when you have to balance the

 

           24              budget on the back of the unions and not

 

           25              look at it all of the way around.  The only

 

 

 

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            1              way I think this recovery plan would have

 

            2              been fair is if we start from the top and

 

            3              say we all have to take a piece of the pie

 

            4              here but, unfortunately, that doesn't

 

            5              happen.  There is a -- I'm not going to say

 

            6              a name because out of respect I don't do

 

            7              that, I don't abuse people at the podium,

 

            8              but if you look at the salaries there is

 

            9              somebody that started working in this city I

 

           10              believe four years ago and they were in the

 

           11              $30,000 salary price range and as of right

 

           12              now they are in the $80,000 price range.

 

           13              So, boy, that's an awful big salary to jump

 

           14              and the unions out there have not got raises

 

           15              in six years, and the only thing I can say

 

           16              to the unions, and I'll tell you what, I

 

           17              just hope that you do, you know, fight for

 

           18              your rights in Court or whatever, but I

 

           19              think what you have to do, maybe it's a

 

           20              little bit too late now, but I will look

 

           21              into this in the morning, I would definitely

 

           22              look into the same lawyer should never be

 

           23              representing all of the unions together

 

           24              because it's hard to put all of your eggs in

 

           25              one basket.  The firemen and the policemen

 

 

 

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            1              do totally different jobs.  I think the

 

            2              unions would be better served if there was

 

            3              one union for the fire -- I'm sorry, one

 

            4              lawyer fr the fire, one representative for

 

            5              the police because that way they will pursue

 

            6              it a little bit stronger, so I do hope that

 

            7              this works out with the recovery plan.  I

 

            8              definitely think it unfair for the workers I

 

            9              know Mrs. Fanucci, Mr. McGoff and

 

           10              Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. Courtright and

 

           11              Mrs. Evans they stated, you know, what they

 

           12              believe about the recovery plan and

 

           13              everybody is entitled to their opinion, but

 

           14              I just hope for the citizens of the City of

 

           15              Scranton you have to ask yourselves are you

 

           16              better off now than you were in 2002?  If

 

           17              the recovery plan goes in now are you going

 

           18              to get a tax break.  You got a 25 percent

 

           19              tax increase which, you know, we understand

 

           20              why, but are just -- an answer to those

 

           21              questions, does the money mean, like I said,

 

           22              that it goes for all employees or just the

 

           23              union, how does it reflect on us as a

 

           24              taxpayer and how is the raises to the police

 

           25              and fire chief at $13,000 a piece benefit

 

 

 

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            1              our quality of life issues.  You can answer

 

            2              them now if anybody has any or at the end I

 

            3              would appreciate it.  Thank you.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mr. Newcomb.

 

            5              Sam Patilla.

 

            6                      MR. PATILLA: Sam Patilla, Scranton

 

            7              resident, home owner, taxpayer, businessman.

 

            8              Good evening, Mrs. Evans and Mr. Courtright.

 

            9              In reference to Item 5-I, Ozzie, if you put

 

           10              the money that was transferred for the tree

 

           11              planting in conjunction with the blight

 

           12              program that's now underway one would come

 

           13              to a determination that they could use the

 

           14              trees to burn in the barrels to keep them

 

           15              warm once their houses are taken away from

 

           16              them.

 

           17                      Okay, a Lackawanna County profile

 

           18              was handed to me and I would just like to go

 

           19              over that for a bit in reference to the

 

           20              employment and wages by industry sector.

 

           21              Now, these figures come from the US Bureau

 

           22              of Census for 2005.  The total county wages

 

           23              for Lackawanna County at that time was

 

           24              $31,674.00.  The total for the state itself

 

           25              $39,653.000.  That's a $7,982.00 difference

 

 

 

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            1              between the state and the county and being

 

            2              in Scranton is in the condition, financial

 

            3              dire straights that it is we know Scranton

 

            4              is a lot lower.

 

            5                      Now, if you go to the figures on the

 

            6              population, okay, from the age of 0 to 14

 

            7              the county has 34,933 children in that age

 

            8              in 2005.  From the ages of 15 to 19 that

 

            9              figure drops to 14,657.  That's a big drop,

 

           10              you know, so what that basically tells us is

 

           11              that through elementary school through

 

           12              middle school our children are here, but

 

           13              once they get to high school and the point

 

           14              of graduation they are leaving and they are

 

           15              leaving mainly because, and that leads me

 

           16              right into the recovery plan, because there

 

           17              is nothing here for them.  Okay?

 

           18                      Now, I have heard all over the radio

 

           19              and the other media, everybody's opinion

 

           20              about the recovery plan, you know, millions

 

           21              of people are out there are giving Doherty

 

           22              credit and I don't think that's true because

 

           23              the foundation for that recovery plan was

 

           24              laid in 2002 by the city administration.

 

           25              The people that first put that forward are

 

 

 

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            1              the ones that actually laid the ground work.

 

            2              Now, when you put into consideration that

 

            3              under Chris Doherty, you know, there were

 

            4              new hires, raises, and the such, you know,

 

            5              blatant violations of that recovery plan you

 

            6              can't give him credit for where we are today

 

            7              because his blatant actions are the reason

 

            8              that the city has been in such dire

 

            9              straights for the length of time that we

 

           10              have been, you know, had he open and honest

 

           11              negotiations with the unions, the fire, the

 

           12              police and the clerical unions this could

 

           13              have been squashed way back when.  You know,

 

           14              a lot of speakers come up to this podium and

 

           15              they speak the truth because they are not in

 

           16              it for financial gain or a self-promotion.

 

           17              You know, when we come up here and we tell

 

           18              you that the NCC operation was going to cost

 

           19              people their homes, you know, it did.  When

 

           20              we told you that we are in a recession, we

 

           21              are.  You know, all over this great country

 

           22              municipalities are falling at the wayside.

 

           23              Now, if somebody wants to try to portray

 

           24              Scranton as on this great road to recovery

 

           25              when everything around us is crumbling, you

 

 

 

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            1              know, they are feeding you a box of rocks

 

            2              because it's just not true.  You know, we

 

            3              are no better off than we were at this time

 

            4              last year and a lot of that has to do with

 

            5              mismanagement.  Mismanagement on the part of

 

            6              city council and rubber stamping issues that

 

            7              were put before them and sent down by that

 

            8              mayor.  Rubber stamping and the issues that

 

            9              they are siding with political interest

 

           10              outside of the citizens and the taxpayers

 

           11              within this city, you know, Mrs. Evans, you

 

           12              know it comes from me.  It always will be.

 

           13              My first step to recovery of any plan, be it

 

           14              a public government or a business sector is

 

           15              cutbacks.  No where in this nation has

 

           16              anybody stood forward and said, look, we

 

           17              have to cut government, we have to cut this.

 

           18              You want to get on the recovery you cut it

 

           19              back, you know, you don't give out raises.

 

           20              You know, and it's kind of strange to me

 

           21              that the fire chief and chief of police get

 

           22              raises weeks before the recovery plan is

 

           23              announced.  You know, it's just another

 

           24              ploy, it's just another attempt to pull the

 

           25              wool over the citizens eyes, you know.

 

 

 

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            1              Thank you for your time.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.

 

            3              Bill Jackowitz.

 

            4                      MR. JACKOWITZ:  Mr. President, city

 

            5              council members.  I passed out some out some

 

            6              Lackawanna County profile status sheets to

 

            7              every council member and also the attorney

 

            8              and Kay.  I find this to be very, very

 

            9              interesting especially since our economic

 

           10              development chairperson keeps telling us how

 

           11              great we are doing and how we are getting --

 

           12              the city is making, you know, citizens are

 

           13              making money, so on and so forth.

 

           14              Carbondale, Blakely, Dunmore and Scranton is

 

           15              the largest parts of Lackawanna County,

 

           16              Scranton being the county seat and being the

 

           17              largest city within Lackawanna County.

 

           18              Okay, our per capita personnel income for

 

           19              the county is $31, 291.00, for the city is

 

           20              lower, but for the county is $31,291.00.

 

           21              For the State of Pennsylvania overall it's

 

           22              $34,937.00, which is a $3,646.00 less per

 

           23              capita personal income.

 

           24                      Median household income: $34,438.00

 

           25              for the county, in Scranton less.  For the

 

 

 

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            1              State of Pennsylvania, $40,106.00.  A

 

            2              $5,668.00 less than what they are making in

 

            3              the rest of this state.

 

            4                      Median family income:  $44,949.00,

 

            5              in Scranton less.  For Pennsylvania

 

            6              $49,184.00.  $4,235.00 less than anybody

 

            7              else in the State of Pennsylvania average.

 

            8                      Major employe, pay attention to this

 

            9              one on the first page, people:  School

 

           10              District of Scranton, Allied Services

 

           11              Foundation, Lackawanna County, Cinram

 

           12              Manufacturing, that's the only one that pays

 

           13              taxes.  Community Medical Center, the Moses

 

           14              Taylor Hospital, University of Scranton,

 

           15              Mercy Hospital, Bank of America, they pay

 

           16              taxes and Marywood University.

 

           17                      And we go to the other side:

 

           18              Industrial sector.  Educational services,

 

           19              health care and social assistance, public

 

           20              administration, manufacturing and health

 

           21              care and social assistance, health care and

 

           22              social assistance, educational services,

 

           23              health care and social assistance, finance

 

           24              and insurance and education and services.

 

           25              That's what these people provide for us, and

 

 

 

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            1              that's the industrial side, people.  Okay?

 

            2                   Now, the interesting part is:

 

            3              Population, ages 0 to 14, 34,933.

 

            4              Miraculously from ages 15 to 19, 14,667.

 

            5              That's 20,276 citizens who have gone.  Where

 

            6              have they gone and why have they gone?  They

 

            7              have gone because if you turn the page to

 

            8              the second page that I provided each and

 

            9              every one of you with it will tell you why

 

           10              they are gone.  Total:  The NIC Industrial

 

           11              Sector, employment and wages by industry,

 

           12              total, all industries in the county, county

 

           13              wage $31,674.00.  State, $39,653.00, again,

 

           14              $7,932.00 less than anybody else in the

 

           15              state and the city is even worse.

 

           16                      Utilities, somebody working for a

 

           17              utilities company, county $69,269.00.  State

 

           18              $86,922.00, a difference of $17,653.00 and

 

           19              you want to know why people are leaving

 

           20              here, but yet we are told over and over and

 

           21              every week that we are doing good because we

 

           22              got restaurants, we've got the Pooch parlor

 

           23              who is no longer in business.  We talk about

 

           24              arts and entertainment.  Arts, design,

 

           25              entertainment, sports and media occupations,

 

 

 

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            1              $27,409 for the county.  $39,976.00 for the

 

            2              state.  $12,567.00 less, but yet our

 

            3              entertainment is going to bring knew

 

            4              business into this city?  Ridiculous,

 

            5              stupid, without a doubt, and now if you

 

            6              listen to the campaigns the Democrats and

 

            7              Republicans, Hillary Clinton, John McCain,

 

            8              guess what their slogan is, people, it's the

 

            9              economy, stupid, they are all saying, all

 

           10              over the news broadcast, but yet when I said

 

           11              it Mrs. Fanucci accused me of calling the

 

           12              citizens of Scranton stupid.  So, maybe you

 

           13              need to contact Hillary Clinton's campaign,

 

           14              and John McCain's campaign and give them the

 

           15              same advice, they shouldn't be calling the

 

           16              people of the United States stupid because

 

           17              it's the economy, stupid.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: David Dobson.

 

           19                      MR. DOBSON:  Good evening, Council,

 

           20              Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton.  Serious

 

           21              consideration and review is needed before

 

           22              altering or accepting projects for

 

           23              adaptation and ordinance.  These projects if

 

           24              not properly reviewed can levy undue expense

 

           25              on our residents as Andy Sbaraglia and Ozzie

 

 

 

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            1              has pointed out tonight.  In a case of

 

            2              trees, we have a serious gypsy moth problem

 

            3              up at Nay Aug Park.  Every year I see leaves

 

            4              eaten right in half from gypsy moths and to

 

            5              my knowledge there has never been an

 

            6              exterminator contacted.  I have some

 

            7              experience with that line of work, my father

 

            8              was the manager in a large extermination

 

            9              branch in that industry and most surveys and

 

           10              estimates are done for free, so there is no

 

           11              need, all you could do is ask.

 

           12                      We have no money for Channel 61 even

 

           13              though they provided ten years of great

 

           14              service and, unfortunately, every now and

 

           15              then they have do cover something that's

 

           16              less than desirable to have on the air, but

 

           17              many people see who knows what they are

 

           18              taking about and who don't anyway.

 

           19                      With these trees, why can't we start

 

           20              contacting Vo-Tech schools and Boy Scouts

 

           21              groups and so forth and possibly they could

 

           22              be willing to volunteer to even do this,

 

           23              even community service from people that

 

           24              could be forgiven for a petty crimes.  We

 

           25              need to seriously consider our priorities

 

 

 

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            1              and we can weather the problems that are in

 

            2              this country, but it has to start from the

 

            3              bottom and we have to exercise care in our

 

            4              expenditures and thank you and have a good

 

            5              night.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,

 

            7              Mr. Dobson.  Mr. Dobson was the last speaker

 

            8              on the list, so is there anyone else who

 

            9              wishes to speak please come to the podium.

 

           10                      MS. HUMPHREY: We shall overcome.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Please state your name

 

           12              for the record.

 

           13                      MS. HUMPHREY: Phyllis Bernadette

 

           14              Fatima Yasmine, also given the name Mary.  I

 

           15              have been sent by I am who am, the God of

 

           16              Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of

 

           17              Jacob to shed the light of peace and

 

           18              reconciliation to our town, our city and our

 

           19              country.  I am very indebted to the gifts

 

           20              God has given to me and to my bishops and my

 

           21              and my priest and the City of Scranton.

 

           22              Even through the cross there is glory.  I

 

           23              love my fire department, and I do love my

 

           24              police department and my mission is to

 

           25              separate the sheep from the goat and to

 

 

 

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            1              expose many people over the next couple of

 

            2              weeks, which is going to be very hard and

 

            3              very difficult, but I can also tell them to

 

            4              just to reconcile, to forgive, go to

 

            5              confession and change their lives.

 

            6                      About a month ago, first I want to

 

            7              tell you it's really hard.  When my children

 

            8              were young I had to flee with my children to

 

            9              Syracuse and Christmas Day I was at church

 

           10              and my uncle went upstairs and there was a

 

           11              fire, and when I came home I thought bombs

 

           12              were all over the place or something, all

 

           13              the windows and the curtains were flowing,

 

           14              and they saved my children's life.  It was

 

           15              the first fire at Christmas time.  Many a

 

           16              time the fire department came over to

 

           17              Valleyview, to Townhouse and about a month

 

           18              ago, I am a good cook, but I had -- I live

 

           19              on a very limited income and I had this bun

 

           20              and I said, "Oh, Dear, Lord," I sprinkled

 

           21              some water on it and put it in the microwave

 

           22              and all of the fumes were coming out and I

 

           23              said, "I know I'm a good work," and I'm

 

           24              trying to salvage this and I guess this must

 

           25              be fast of the fatima, and I'm thinking I'm

 

 

 

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            1              trying to blow the smoke, put the air vent

 

            2              on, but it went off and my beautiful fire

 

            3              department came to my assistance.  So, I

 

            4              felt in my heart the statute that was

 

            5              desecrated where miracles were occurring on

 

            6              that I would like to take and share it with

 

            7              them, I truly thought that it would be taken

 

            8              into the church.  And I know they were in a

 

            9              tizzy, so I took the statue over and what

 

           10              they did is they removed the statue and put

 

           11              it on the ground which to me, which they

 

           12              wouldn't, they were stressed out, to me it

 

           13              was a desecration because it was blessed by

 

           14              the Bishops, I'm going to cry.  So, anyway,

 

           15              I ran over and I got the pedestal and I put

 

           16              it on the blessed mother on there and I

 

           17              said, okay, and I got there and I snapped

 

           18              some pictures, I got to the church.  So I

 

           19              get the pictures back and I want to tell

 

           20              everybody the miracle.  Captain Robeson,

 

           21              there was a reflection from the statute onto

 

           22              the back where they put the things down,

 

           23              Captain Robeson's picture is all in blue, he

 

           24              is in heaven.  The statute was honored at

 

           25              the Federal Road Columbus Day, the FBI

 

 

 

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            1              allowed me to put it facing upwards the FBI

 

            2              towards the church.  When I got the pictures

 

            3              the King of King was on there, but it also

 

            4              represented King Sod and the Crown Prince.

 

            5                   Prior to that when Mr. Robeson went to

 

            6              heaven, a couple of days before the blessed

 

            7              mother asked me to turn the veil around.

 

            8              The stickers of the FBI and the police and

 

            9              the sheriff's department are on there and I

 

           10              couldn't understand why so when I got the

 

           11              pictures back all of this heavy duty stuff

 

           12              was going on, pictures of priests and

 

           13              everything, but it was to tell me in other

 

           14              words another martyer and another saint will

 

           15              reign in heaven.

 

           16                      So I have the documents and the

 

           17              pictures and the first one I'm going to show

 

           18              I collected flags, the United Nation's flag,

 

           19              this is my mother, it's pro-life.  There is

 

           20              a lot of miracles in here, this is one,

 

           21              support life, but this one is our fire

 

           22              department.  The Washington Fire Department

 

           23              is on here because they took me to the

 

           24              hospital and it's going to go to Washington,

 

           25              but right here --

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.

 

            2              Can we look at it later?

 

            3                      MS. HUMPHREY:  Yeah, you can look

 

            4              at, yeah, and I thought maybe you can make

 

            5              posters and for the City of Scranton and we

 

            6              can sell them because even though they are

 

            7              knocking down Scranton this is kind of a

 

            8              like an earthquake.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much.

 

           10              Thank you very much.

 

           11                      MS. HUMPHREY: God bless you.  Thank

 

           12              you for your apartment.  Thank you to

 

           13              Captain Robeson.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           15                      MR. GERVASI: Good evening, City

 

           16              Council.  Dave Gervasi, Scranton resident

 

           17              and never so proud to be a firefighter.  I

 

           18              just wanted to come here tonight, president

 

           19              Dave Shriber was unavailable to come and we

 

           20              have been pretty busy the last week but we

 

           21              wanted to just come and try to say thank you

 

           22              to everyone.  The sheer volume of cards and

 

           23              condolences and support for Captain

 

           24              Robeson's family was just truly overwhelming

 

           25              to everyone, his family and his coworkers.

 

 

 

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            1              After the tragic death of Captain Robeson on

 

            2              January 6 a lot of people came together and

 

            3              we want to apologize to the Fenstermacher

 

            4              family for not reaching out to them earlier,

 

            5              we attended the wake and we just want the

 

            6              Fenstermachers our heart goes out to them,

 

            7              it's not easy losing somebody in a fire.

 

            8                      We are just going to try to thank as

 

            9              many people as we possibly could.  We want

 

           10              to put our apologies in advance that if we

 

           11              do miss anyone in the next coming weeks when

 

           12              we do send out notes of thank you, we do

 

           13              apologize and we appreciate everything that

 

           14              was done.

 

           15                      We would like to thank this council

 

           16              for attending the services.  We would like

 

           17              to thank the city administration for

 

           18              cooperating with us and giving us the

 

           19              flexibility to work together in giving

 

           20              Captain Robeson the tribute he deserved.  We

 

           21              would like to thank the great people of the

 

           22              City of Scranton and throughout the

 

           23              Northeast Pennsylvania for the overwhelming

 

           24              outpouring of support they showed to Jimmy's

 

           25              family.  The citizens who stopped at

 

 

 

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            1              firehouses for those four days.

 

            2                      We would really like to thank the

 

            3              fire departments of Pittston, Dunmore,

 

            4              Wilkes-Barre, Dickson City, Kingston and Old

 

            5              Forge and our fine, fine Scranton police

 

            6              officers who all went above and beyond to

 

            7              help us, work for us, guard our city so that

 

            8              it allowed all of Captain Robeson's fellow

 

            9              coworkers to attend the services.  And a

 

           10              very big sidenote, those were the fire

 

           11              departments actually came in and physically

 

           12              did something.  There were hundreds of

 

           13              others who offered the same services,

 

           14              equipment, apparatus, manpower to do the

 

           15              same and it was -- that was truly

 

           16              overwhelming.

 

           17                      So, I don't want to, you know, give

 

           18              more credit that's due to others than

 

           19              others, but it was just overwhelming and I

 

           20              guess in closing I would just like to say

 

           21              thank you to everyone.  In the next few

 

           22              weeks we are going to be sending out notices

 

           23              trying to recognize everyone who helped

 

           24              Jimmy's family and I guess on behalf of the

 

           25              friends, families and coworkers of James

 

 

 

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            1              Robeson thank you all very much, we are very

 

            2              grateful and it was very much appreciated.

 

            3              Thank you.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Gervasi.

 

            5                      MS. KNIGHT: Good evening, Council.

 

            6              My name is Geraldine Knight.  I was here

 

            7              last week to congratulate you all.  Mr.

 

            8              Courtright, I sent you a letter, did you

 

            9              receive it?

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Did you send it

 

           11              this week?

 

           12                      MS. KNIGHT: Yes, I did.

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yeah, you know what

 

           14              I had a little bit of a --

 

           15                      MS. KNIGHT: No?

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: -- problem, I

 

           17              haven't been here this week, I'm sure I'll

 

           18              see it.

 

           19                      MS. KNIGHT: Well, I was

 

           20              congratulating you, but then when I gave the

 

           21              letter here I heard that you were going to

 

           22              look into being a tax collector.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah, I don't think

 

           24              that's working out too well.

 

           25                      MS. KNIGHT: Wonderful.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: There are too many

 

            2              people against me.

 

            3                      MS. KNIGHT: I hope it doesn't

 

            4              because we need you hear on council.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.

 

            6                      MS. KNIGHT:  And I am telling the

 

            7              other three and good well since Miss Sherry

 

            8              who was not here last week smiling, that

 

            9              favorite smile of yours.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI: Did you miss me?

 

           11                      MS. KNIGHT: Wonderful.  You should

 

           12              be very proud of it, honey, because you

 

           13              should listen to these people.  They are a

 

           14              hell of a lot older than you are and they

 

           15              got the brains and if you were brought up

 

           16              the right way you would take that smirk --

 

           17                      MS. FANUCCI: Are you my mother?

 

           18                      MS. KNIGHT: Yes, I am your mother,

 

           19              Honey.  I'm 67 years old and you talk.  If

 

           20              you were my kid you would be six-foot under

 

           21              because I'd smack the living daylights out

 

           22              of you.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Excuse me, that's

 

           24              inappropriate.

 

           25                      MS. KNIGHT: That's inappropriate.

 

 

 

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            1              Okay.  But there is no words to describe you

 

            2              that I'm allowed to say according to the

 

            3              attorney over there, but I wish you would

 

            4              get wised up, kid, because you got a heck of

 

            5              a lot to learn and when you do I hope it

 

            6              hits you hard and right in the back of the

 

            7              head.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, it's really

 

            9              inappropriate.

 

           10                      MS. KNIGHT:  Well, you mean to tell

 

           11              me that I can't raise or suggest words?  I'm

 

           12              not using foul words, am I?  Can I get an

 

           13              answer from any one of you?

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I would say that it was

 

           15              somewhat threatening and --

 

           16                      MS. KNIGHT: Threatening.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: AND it was inappropriate

 

           18              for council meeting, yes, thank you.

 

           19                      MS. KNIGHT: Oh, okay.  Thank you

 

           20              very much.  Mr. Courtright, I'm very happy

 

           21              that you're staying.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Thank you.  I'll

 

           23              read your letter this week.

 

           24                      MS. KNIGHT: Thank you.

 

           25                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I just had a little

 

 

 

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            1              bit of a problem getting in there this week.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Knight.

 

            3                      MS. SCHUMACHER: Marie Schumacher,

 

            4              citizen and member of the Scranton/

 

            5              Lackawanna County Taxpayers' Association.

 

            6              The first thing I'd like to comment on

 

            7              tonight is 5-I.  Again, it's obvious to all

 

            8              that the package of materials that you get

 

            9              that is only available by coming down here

 

           10              physically and reviewing them I'm sure again

 

           11              that document was prepared electronically

 

           12              and there is in my estimation no reason why

 

           13              this council cannot require everybody

 

           14              submitting in this case to the clerk's

 

           15              office for inclusion on the agenda that it

 

           16              be transmitted electronically and it be put

 

           17              on the computer so that we can all see it,

 

           18              not just the agenda, but we can also see, I

 

           19              mean, this is meaningless.  It's clear as

 

           20              mud which projects and it would be nice.

 

           21              Not everybody is able to come down here.

 

           22                      I would next like to comment on 5-G.

 

           23              I assume that is the property tax portion

 

           24              that's being set for next year, perhaps I'm

 

           25              wrong, but I would also like to comment, I

 

 

 

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            1              like the way the county presents their

 

            2              allocation of tax dollars.  They show how

 

            3              much goes to debt service and how much goes

 

            4              to the operating budget and I think it would

 

            5              be very enlightening for all of our citizens

 

            6              and taxpayers to have the property tax split

 

            7              between the debt, what's going to debt

 

            8              allocation and debt service and how much is

 

            9              going to the operating budgets.

 

           10                      Next, I'd like to comment on

 

           11              recovery.  Again, recovery is measured by

 

           12              how much people want to live in any

 

           13              jurisdiction.  Scranton is no exception.  On

 

           14              Sunday afternoon I looked at the multiple

 

           15              listings, there are 633 homes, 18 percent of

 

           16              those homes in the City of Scranton are up

 

           17              for sale.  That does not include those that

 

           18              are being sold by the owners.  That tells me

 

           19              that there aren't a lot of people who really

 

           20              want to live in Scranton or we wouldn't have

 

           21              an 18 percent -- 18 percent of the homes on

 

           22              the market at any one time, so, we are very

 

           23              far from recovery.

 

           24                      Next, I would like to comment on the

 

           25              advance from the Scranton Housing Authority.

 

 

 

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            1              That payment was for multiple years and the

 

            2              last Scranton Housing Authority meeting I

 

            3              asked what the period of time was, it goes

 

            4              out 2015 so there will not be another

 

            5              payment for those Park Garden apartments

 

            6              until 2015.  My further comment is that I

 

            7              think it's unwise to use all of that in one

 

            8              year.  I think it should have been more

 

            9              properly put into an escrow account and

 

           10              parceled out by the year through 2014 as it

 

           11              was intended by the Housing Authority.

 

           12                      Next I would like to comment on the

 

           13              commercial cafeterias or eateries that are

 

           14              in the new building that the University of

 

           15              Scranton recently opened on Mulberry Street.

 

           16              I did notice in the newspaper that there are

 

           17              commercial eateries in there and I am

 

           18              assuming that they are paying taxes, but I

 

           19              can't help but wonder if I'm assuming

 

           20              correctly or if they are using the umbrella

 

           21              of the University of Scranton to avoid

 

           22              paying taxes.

 

           23                      And then my final comments tonight

 

           24              will deal with the money pit also known as

 

           25              Nay Aug Park.  You know my feelings on the

 

 

 

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            1              capital budget, you know my feelings on park

 

            2              parody.  A good example is the treehouse

 

            3              which was supposedly made for the disabled,

 

            4              but every time I have been there with a

 

            5              disabled person you almost get run over by

 

            6              the abled people, particularly if it's on a

 

            7              weekend.  Back on the 28th of July in 2005

 

            8              the mayor estimated that the cost at 120 to

 

            9              $140,000.  Then, on the 9th of February,

 

           10              2006, Mr. Scopelliti, who was then the

 

           11              Director of Parks and Recreation appeared

 

           12              here before a council meeting and he stated

 

           13              that the total cost would be about $300,000.

 

           14                   As it turns out, the foundation,

 

           15              concrete and steelwork alone cost $229,000.

 

           16              That does not include the lumber or the

 

           17              effort done by Forever Young Treehouse

 

           18              Company at a meeting on the 6th of March --

 

           19              or 2006 the representatives from Forever

 

           20              Young said their bill would be $143,000, so

 

           21              we are close to $372,000 for that treehouse

 

           22              and I can't help but wonder, and I will wrap

 

           23              this up, is for the disabled, I mean, it's

 

           24              nice and it's certainly located beautiful

 

           25              but when you come to really helping the

 

 

 

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            1              disabled at $12.00 an hour, which I'm

 

            2              assuming about what the public works people

 

            3              make, that would be 30,000 hours to get out

 

            4              and clean the street corners or the pavecuts

 

            5              so the disabled can get across the streets

 

            6              and not have to go through a pile of muck

 

            7              and snow, so I think if we really want to

 

            8              help the disabled something a little less

 

            9              glitzy and glim would certainly be much

 

           10              better for the disabled.  Thank you very

 

           11              much.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.

 

           13              Schumacher.  Chris.

 

           14                      MR. SLEDZENSKI:  All right, I wasn't

 

           15              going to step and then I figured out, I got

 

           16              to see my Judy tonight for a change, right,

 

           17              Jude?

 

           18                      MS. GATELLI: Do you know who was

 

           19              there today, Chrissy.

 

           20                      MR. SLEDZENSKI: Who?  I heard.

 

           21              Ozzie was telling me.  Right, Oz?  I heard.

 

           22              Dave, I'm going to say I'm sorry about

 

           23              Captain Robeson down there.  From all of us

 

           24              to him, Dave, he was a good man.  Thank you.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much,

 

 

 

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            1              countries.

 

            2                      MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening.  Nelson

 

            3              Ancherani, resident and taxpayer, city

 

            4              employee and financial secretary of the FOP,

 

            5              First Amendment Rights.  Last week I brought

 

            6              up about how the unions are being treated

 

            7              differently.  I believe the word is

 

            8              discriminated against by this

 

            9              administration, being treated differently

 

           10              and special favorites is discrimination.  I

 

           11              have to add that if the union workers were

 

           12              treated the same as the special favorites

 

           13              there would be no arguments.  This mayor

 

           14              when he mentions the recovery plan he still

 

           15              thinks he is going to put the city on steady

 

           16              financial ground by implementing the plan.

 

           17              The city is 400 million approximately in

 

           18              long-term debt for at least the next

 

           19              28 years and saving the city approximately

 

           20              two million a year by implementing the plan

 

           21              isn't going to get us out of the debt.

 

           22                      The $35 million parking authority

 

           23              loan is going to cost us 59 million in

 

           24              interest.  Getting back to how I feel the

 

           25              unions are being treated differently, the

 

 

 

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            1              three council persons, Ms. Gatelli, Ms.

 

            2              Fanucci, Mr. McGoff, voted for the mayor's

 

            3              budget that treats the unions differently.

 

            4              We have been saying that the mayor violated

 

            5              this recovery plan from the beginning by

 

            6              giving raises to a special favorites.  On

 

            7              page 64 of the revised and updated Act 47

 

            8              Recovery Plan for the City of Scranton,

 

            9              Chapter 2-B, labor relations, cost

 

           10              containment and related provisions, Section

 

           11              2, wages, reads: "For 2003, 2004, and 2005,

 

           12              the base hourly wages and salaries of all

 

           13              city employees shall not, shall not exceed

 

           14              existing 2002 rates."

 

           15                      Can't be any clearer than that.  I

 

           16              would say that the $15 million given in

 

           17              raises in the new hires to special favorites

 

           18              is a violation of the recovery plan and was

 

           19              a violation from day one.

 

           20                      This morning when I got up I went on

 

           21              line to the Scranton slime's website, I

 

           22              heard about the breaking news, road paved

 

           23              for recovery written by Stacy Brown.  If

 

           24              they were giving prizes for fiction writing

 

           25              and fairy-tales Stacy Brown would win hands

 

 

 

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            1              down.  I thought I was reading nursery

 

            2              rhymes, but then I realized I was reading

 

            3              fables and they were in the Scranton slimes.

 

            4                   First of all, the city had their

 

            5              opinion and probably gave it to someone and

 

            6              we haven't even gotten ours from the judge.

 

            7              The one I saw I believe was supplied to us

 

            8              from someone other than the judge, it was

 

            9              ineligible, could hardly read it.  I have

 

           10              yet to see an opinion from the judge that

 

           11              says the city is allowed to implement their

 

           12              plan.  Is this more wishful thinking by the

 

           13              city?  Reading through Stacy's fable it says

 

           14              the plan attempts to balance the city's

 

           15              budget almost entirely through limiting

 

           16              wages and cutting jobs and benefits for

 

           17              union employees, that's true.  The mayor has

 

           18              been trying to break the unions and all the

 

           19              time he has been BS'ing the residents,

 

           20              borrowing and spending while putting on a

 

           21              millionaire front and having a hobo's hind

 

           22              end.

 

           23                      Again, the mayor mentions the

 

           24              72 percent of the voters who voted for the

 

           25              row cover re plan.  He never mentions that

 

 

 

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            1              it was 72 percent of the voters who voted in

 

            2              that election.  Mary Paterson, city

 

            3              solicitor, said, "The ruling is a welcome

 

            4              affirmation that labor contracts must abide

 

            5              the recovery plan."

 

            6                      I refer back to page 64, "Wages and

 

            7              salaries of all city employees shall not

 

            8              exceed existing 2002 rates."

 

            9                      The fiction fable says the city's

 

           10              budget is 88 million, it's 85 million.  The

 

           11              fable says Mayor Connors also focused

 

           12              heavily union concessions, but he never

 

           13              seriously pursued the provisions during

 

           14              negotiations.  Wrong.  The police gave up 17

 

           15              positions while the firefighters gave up 50.

 

           16              I can go on dispelling this fiction, we only

 

           17              get five minutes.

 

           18                      I do wish to say that it's not over

 

           19              until that lady sings and I don't see her

 

           20              anywhere to be found.  Thank you.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr.

 

           22              Ancherani.  Anyone else?  If not then we go

 

           23              to Fifth Order, motions.  Mrs. Evans.

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: Good evening.  Please

 

           25              remember in your prayers a wonderful young

 

 

 

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            1              man, David Burke, and his dear family

 

            2              members who grieve his passing.  He was a

 

            3              graduate of Scranton High School and one of

 

            4              Boscov's friendliest and most helpful

 

            5              employees.

 

            6                      At our last council meeting,

 

            7              Mrs. Gatelli made a motion to seek other

 

            8              bids from the cable companies, however, we

 

            9              have learned that all cable franchise

 

           10              agreements are nonexclusive.  It is not a

 

           11              competitive bidding process in which there

 

           12              is only one winner.  Any cable company that

 

           13              wishes to operate in Scranton receives the

 

           14              same deal.  In addition, Comcast has already

 

           15              notified Scranton of it's intent to continue

 

           16              it's operation and negotiate a new contract.

 

           17                   Further, the franchise fee which is

 

           18              paid to the city ranges from 0 to 5 percent

 

           19              of gross revenues.  It is not a negotiated

 

           20              rate, rather the city sets the rate.

 

           21              Scranton collects 5 percent and Comcast

 

           22              passes that cost along to the consumer.

 

           23                      In addition, the Scranton Cable

 

           24              Commission has requested that the mayor

 

           25              allow the cable commission chairman to join

 

 

 

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            1              the mayor's appointees in reviewing RFP's or

 

            2              requests for proposals for the operator of

 

            3              Channel 61.

 

            4                      As a follow-up to last week's

 

            5              meeting, I have received no response from

 

            6              Mr. Baker and the SHA chairman to questions

 

            7              regarding the $900,000 advance from the

 

            8              Scranton Housing Authority to the City in

 

            9              2007, however, I do thank you, Mrs.

 

           10              Schumacher, for your report at the meeting

 

           11              that you attended that certainly does begin

 

           12              to explain the payment in lieu of taxes, it

 

           13              appears to be rather an anticipated or

 

           14              regularly expected annual contribution.

 

           15                      A letter to Mr. Brazil, please, DPW

 

           16              director, please paint crosswalks in front

 

           17              of elderly high-rises and city schools as

 

           18              necessary.  Paint traffic lines on

 

           19              Lackawanna Avenue before the entrance to the

 

           20              Steamtown Mall and near the Lackawanna

 

           21              Avenue bridge.

 

           22                      And, Kay, over the following week

 

           23              could our office please locate the ordinance

 

           24              regarding sidewalk installation provided for

 

           25              by the City of Scranton and a letter to

 

 

 

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            1              Mr. Hayes and Mr. Brazil, please provide in

 

            2              writing the comprehensive plans and

 

            3              procedures for snow emergencies and snow

 

            4              removal for the City of Scranton on or

 

            5              before February 1, 2008, to city council.

 

            6                   And also, Kay, I'd like Mr. Seitzinger

 

            7              contacted tomorrow in reference to Daron

 

            8              Northeast.  Residents of Dickson Avenue

 

            9              report that work begins at approximately

 

           10              5:10 a.m. and very often doesn't conclude

 

           11              until 11:30 p.m.  I know that letters have

 

           12              been sent to the management of Daron

 

           13              Northeast concerning just these problems in

 

           14              the recent past and they have indicated that

 

           15              these problems are nonexistent, but yet the

 

           16              citizens of Scranton, the taxpayers of

 

           17              Scranton who reside less than 50 feet from

 

           18              that plant, report quite the opposite and I

 

           19              really would like Mr. Seitzinger to address

 

           20              this issue immediately so that these

 

           21              individuals are able to gain at least a good

 

           22              night's sleep.

 

           23                      I think that is it.  Oh, one last

 

           24              item, I did notice also in the most recent

 

           25              controller's report council received dated

 

 

 

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            1              January 17 for the month of December 2007,

 

            2              that it appears $4.4 million was carried

 

            3              over from 2007, December 31, 2007, into

 

            4              2008.  The revenues to December 2007

 

            5              amounted to $76,774,982.00 and expenditures

 

            6              $72,328,323.00 for a net difference of

 

            7              $4,446,659.00.  So, I think it's very

 

            8              important to keep that in mind particularly

 

            9              as the city will propose additional

 

           10              borrowing by the month of June this year.

 

           11              Exactly what is necessary, what is fact,

 

           12              what is fiction.  That's it.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: I just wanted to --

 

           14              would you prefer that the letter to

 

           15              Mr. Seitzinger go from council or --

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Well, actually, I was

 

           17              hoping that he could be called by phone

 

           18              because the letter could take too long -- it

 

           19              would possibly into the end of the week.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Would any -- well, maybe

 

           21              the same question only in a different

 

           22              format, would you prefer that phone call be

 

           23              on behalf of council --

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: Absolutely.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: As opposed to

 

 

 

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            1              individually.

 

            2                      MS. EVANS: Absolutely.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Any objection?  No?

 

            4              Kay, Mrs. Garvey, please do that on behalf

 

            5              of council.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: Also, Mr. McGoff if then

 

            7              Mr. Seitzinger could provide all of the

 

            8              council with a report on the situation at

 

            9              Daron Northeast.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: I will try and

 

           11              personally contact him to the see if he can

 

           12              do that.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Kay, I have a

 

           16              couple of them and if it's all right with me

 

           17              if you send them all out by all of council,

 

           18              whatever council prefers, firstly, I believe

 

           19              Mr. Seitzinger is now the gentleman in

 

           20              charge of this building, if he could find

 

           21              out why we can't get a handle on this room

 

           22              here.  It's freezing in here.  I mean, every

 

           23              week there is a different ball game here and

 

           24              I believe the system is controlled by a

 

           25              computer and our IT department has control

 

 

 

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            1              over there, I don't know if they are not

 

            2              getting cooperation from the HVAC people or

 

            3              what it is, but I can't take much more of

 

            4              this cold weather.

 

            5                      All right, over the holiday season,

 

            6              you know, you run into a lot of people and a

 

            7              big thing everybody seems to be asking me

 

            8              now is about, you know, where are our beat

 

            9              cops, so I thought I would just run down a

 

           10              little bit for the people that are asking

 

           11              where they are.  Oh, going on three months

 

           12              now we are done away with just about all of

 

           13              the beat cops from the exceptions of one on

 

           14              the north end.  We didn't have enough

 

           15              officers to man the patrols so they had to

 

           16              be taken from the beat and put in the

 

           17              patrols.

 

           18                      I think somebody dropped the ball

 

           19              when they came to giving the tests they

 

           20              didn't give the tests fast enough and when

 

           21              they did give the test nobody wanted to be a

 

           22              cop in Scranton so we got very few takers.

 

           23              Out of the takers that we got not too many

 

           24              passed and a lot of the ones that passed I

 

           25              don't believe that all of them their

 

 

 

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            1              background check worked out that well, so we

 

            2              don't have too many.  They do plan on giving

 

            3              a test now, what they are going to do is you

 

            4              don't have to have any qualifications now to

 

            5              take the test, anybody I belive, you just

 

            6              have to be 19 years old and you could take

 

            7              the test and then they will send you to the

 

            8              Act 120.

 

            9                      The problem that lies there is that

 

           10              there won't be a 120 class until March,

 

           11              sometime in March at least starting, that

 

           12              class will take approximately six months

 

           13              then they would need to get certified by

 

           14              MOPEC.  Once they get certified then they

 

           15              need to be field trained by our people so I

 

           16              don't think you are going to see those

 

           17              people from this up and coming test on the

 

           18              street for about eight months, so that's

 

           19              where your beat people are for those of you

 

           20              have that have been asking me.

 

           21                      And, again, these letters want to go

 

           22              by all council that's fine by me.  I would

 

           23              just ask Mr. Brazil if I he could check with

 

           24              PennDOT, I brought this up a while back and

 

           25              find out for me if PennDOT requires the

 

 

 

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            1              barricades that we put on our streets to

 

            2              have either flashers on them or at least

 

            3              reflectors because we did have an incident

 

            4              on Franklin Avenue where somebody ran into

 

            5              one, so if he can find out if it has

 

            6              something to do with PennDOT as a ruling on

 

            7              that.

 

            8                      And if you can just combine this one

 

            9              if you wouldn't mind, behind the Moses

 

           10              Taylor Hospital I can't remember the name of

 

           11              that court back there, behind the main

 

           12              building, the main entrance on Quincy it's

 

           13              really like a battlefield, I had occasion to

 

           14              ride that the other night and when they are

 

           15              doing any patching if they might be able to

 

           16              take a look behind the main building of the

 

           17              Moses Taylor I would appreciate that.

 

           18                      And this you don't need to put in a

 

           19              letter, I'll tell them myself, John Pezo and

 

           20              Gerry Shock, and I can't recall who else is

 

           21              in the truck, but they took care of a

 

           22              problem on Main Avenue and I don't know it

 

           23              was the city's or not, but there was a hole

 

           24              so bad that I would watch every time

 

           25              somebody would hit it they would actually

 

 

 

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            1              pull their car over and come back and take a

 

            2              look and see what they hit and they took

 

            3              care of it and they rectified that problem,

 

            4              so I would like thank them for that.

 

            5                      Tripp Park, it might have been

 

            6              Mr. Sbaraglia who was taking about Tripp

 

            7              Park, maybe the new solicitor could help me

 

            8              out, I had asked in the past the developer

 

            9              of Tripp Park had put up a bond, nobody

 

           10              could tell me how much that bond was and if,

 

           11              in fact, he received that bond back yet.  I

 

           12              don't think it's any surprise that many of

 

           13              the people living in that Tripp Park

 

           14              development are not happy with what

 

           15              happened, what has been happening up there

 

           16              and what continues to go on so, so, I'm

 

           17              sorry, I don't know what the woman's name,

 

           18              is it Patterson, the new --

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: Yes.

 

           20                      MS. COURTRIGHT: If you can ask her

 

           21              and, again, if you want to sent it by all of

 

           22              council if that would carry more weight I'd

 

           23              be happy to put everybody's name on it, if

 

           24              she could find out for me what type of bond

 

           25              was posted and if he received his bond back

 

 

 

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            1              or not.  I hope if he had a bond we didn't

 

            2              give it back to him.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: I don't think he even

 

            4              had one.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: He didn't post a

 

            6              bond?

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI: I don't think so.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Oh, God.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: I know that Jeff was

 

           10              working with Parker on that.  It's a

 

           11              nightmare, the whole thing is.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yeah.  Well, if we

 

           13              can him if he didn't post a bond I don't

 

           14              think the people up there are going to be

 

           15              too happy.

 

           16                      Channel 61, whatever is going to

 

           17              happen with Channel 61 is going to happen

 

           18              but I would was just hope that this

 

           19              administration would give the people of

 

           20              Scranton Today every consideration to run

 

           21              Channel 61.  They have, as long as I have

 

           22              been here, they are done programming and

 

           23              they haven't been partial or biased to

 

           24              anyone.  They just show the programming.

 

           25              They have no special interest and maybe some

 

 

 

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            1              of the things that they show on Channel 61

 

            2              some of the people didn't like, but they

 

            3              don't edit it, you get to see your

 

            4              government in action, not just here, but the

 

            5              zoning and planning, and others, without any

 

            6              editing, without any kind of alteration

 

            7              whatsoever and I think they have done it

 

            8              fairly and I would like to see them have an

 

            9              opportunity to continue on, so I really

 

           10              think we should give them the utmost

 

           11              consideration, and I certainly will if this

 

           12              council, I don't know if we are going to

 

           13              have anything to say about it, but if we do

 

           14              I certainly will.

 

           15                      And one last thing, I was going to

 

           16              bring up last week but I wasn't here, when

 

           17              we had our reorganization meeting, I can't

 

           18              recall why Mrs. Evans asked Mrs. Fanucci

 

           19              when she "we", what she meant by "we" , and

 

           20              I don't know recall the reason, but I don't

 

           21              think the reason really matters, but she

 

           22              said what she meant by "we" was that "we" as

 

           23              council work as a body and "we" as council

 

           24              work as one.  I have to disagree.  Either

 

           25              that or they don't consider to be part of

 

 

 

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            1              council.  I was never consulted on anything

 

            2              to do with the reorganization meeting except

 

            3              for when I ran into Mr. McGoff I asked him

 

            4              about the rule, nobody asked me who I would

 

            5              care to see be president, vice president,

 

            6              what priest we bring in, how the day would

 

            7              be run, nothing.  So if "we" means all of

 

            8              council then evidently I am not included in

 

            9              being on council and --

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: Mr. Courtright, thank you

 

           11              I didn't mean to interrupt.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: That's all right.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: With your permission, I

 

           14              would echo those statements in that I, too,

 

           15              was not informed of the choices for

 

           16              officers, the changes in council rules, the

 

           17              seating arrangement, etcetera, until I was

 

           18              notified late on Friday before the Monday

 

           19              reorganization meeting by our city clerk

 

           20              and, of course, by reading the information

 

           21              in the Scranton Times and it would appear

 

           22              that almost the election had been conducted

 

           23              in the newspaper and so like Mr. Courtright

 

           24              I, too, being feel that "we" includes only

 

           25              three individuals.  It certainly does not

 

 

 

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            1              include myself as a councilwoman.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  And one last thing,

 

            3              as I said to I believe Mrs. Knight there, I

 

            4              haven't been in here recently, and I'm

 

            5              usually here everyday so if I answered

 

            6              anybody's e-mails or your letters I will get

 

            7              to them as soon as possible and I apologize,

 

            8              and that's all I have.  Thank you.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Fanucci?

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes, I have two things

 

           11              that I need to discuss.  I received a letter

 

           12              that I want to give to Mr. Courtright

 

           13              complaining about an incident that happened

 

           14              with the police, so I'm going to give that

 

           15              to you and see if you can handle that for

 

           16              me.  She wanted it on the record so that's

 

           17              why I'm stating it now, so I will hand that

 

           18              to Mr. Courtright.

 

           19                      I wanted to talk to you about some

 

           20              of the things that were said today.  Fact:

 

           21              I do believe that there are businesses that

 

           22              are moving into the city.  I don't know

 

           23              maybe I do have a problem and I'm making

 

           24              them up as I'm walking downtown and seeing

 

           25              all of these new businesses, but I can also

 

 

 

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            1              say as an elected official I encourage and

 

            2              support anyone coming into this city and who

 

            3              wants to bring money here and jobs.  Is it

 

            4              prudent to say that I don't believe that we

 

            5              need higher paying jobs, that is an absurd,

 

            6              ludicrous statement.  I certainly know that

 

            7              we need to attract higher paying positions.

 

            8              I do not believe everyone in this city is

 

            9              where they need to be financially.  That

 

           10              would be a such a gross misuse of what I

 

           11              have said up here.

 

           12                      We should be grateful to the people

 

           13              who are here and who are investing in us.  I

 

           14              certainly am.  Whether or not you believe

 

           15              that major businesses who are employing most

 

           16              of the people in this city are not what you

 

           17              believe should be here or not are important

 

           18              to us because people need to work and we

 

           19              need to have jobs.  Whether or not you

 

           20              believe that people need a certain type of

 

           21              business is not a decision made by your

 

           22              elected officials and it certainly is not a

 

           23              decision that is made on the basis of how

 

           24              you believe the city should be run.  The

 

           25              people who decide that is the consumer.  The

 

 

 

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            1              consumer decides if a business should be

 

            2              here.  They have the right to open.  I can

 

            3              tell you, yes, when Poochie was, sad to say,

 

            4              yes, they are closing now, when I asked them

 

            5              they said they were remaining open, they are

 

            6              closing now, but I also can tell you a new

 

            7              business is going right in there.  That to

 

            8              me shows something productive.  Does it say

 

            9              I am where we want to be?  Absolutely not.

 

           10              But I am not going to stop wanting our city

 

           11              to did better.  I'm not going to say and

 

           12              decide what type of businesses.  Everyone is

 

           13              welcome in our city and the more business

 

           14              here and the more diversity and the more

 

           15              types of venues we have is what's going to

 

           16              make our city strong, like it or not.

 

           17                      What I heard today was people get up

 

           18              and bash big business, bash small business,

 

           19              so what's left?  Twenty-five years ago,

 

           20              30 years ago should we have not let anyone

 

           21              come here?  Should it have been decisions

 

           22              people make deciding on what they feel is

 

           23              prudent?  If you have a cat, don't open a

 

           24              dog place because I certainly don't even

 

           25              like them.  Well, that's ridiculous.  If you

 

 

 

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            1              are not a baseball stand don't build a

 

            2              stadium, but guess what, there are a lot of

 

            3              baseball fans.  This is what it's about.

 

            4              This is what our city is all about, so I

 

            5              certainly do not think that getting up here

 

            6              and listening to what I listened today as

 

            7              been productive in any way.

 

            8                      I certainly had all of these facts

 

            9              and figures.  Does it make feel good, it

 

           10              certainly doesn't.  I'm very much aware of

 

           11              what our population is.  I'm very much of

 

           12              what our median income is.  It doesn't mean

 

           13              I'm going to stop working and trying to

 

           14              provide and help people make better

 

           15              decisions and better lives for themselves,

 

           16              but certainly sitting here and bashing

 

           17              everyone is not going to make a better live

 

           18              for everyone in the city.

 

           19                      I also want to speak on the recovery

 

           20              plan which obviously is something that was

 

           21              spoken about today.  Yes, I do believe in

 

           22              the recovery plan and I have always said I

 

           23              support the recovery plan.  Do I believe we

 

           24              are better off than we were?  No, and I'll

 

           25              say it again because we have not done

 

 

 

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            1              anything to implement recovery.  I know that

 

            2              since, you know, it started in 2002 we are

 

            3              not in recovery.  Have we given the raises

 

            4              to the police and fire?  No.  Was it because

 

            5              we didn't want to, was it because I didn't

 

            6              want to?  No.  You can't until the contracts

 

            7              are negotiated, that's what is all about.

 

            8              Does it make it happy?  It certainly

 

            9              doesn't.  Can't stand it.  I think it's sad

 

           10              and I think we are at the point now where we

 

           11              need to sit down and negotiate.  I said this

 

           12              from day one, this is not going to stop.  We

 

           13              are not going to change until it's battled

 

           14              out and, unfortunately, that's what happens.

 

           15              Lawyers and lawyers and lawyers and now

 

           16              after 2002 we are still having the same

 

           17              argument, just like KOZ's and KOEZ's, until

 

           18              they finally are finished we are going to

 

           19              hear they are free ride not the fact that

 

           20              they invested in us and believed in us and

 

           21              tried to do something for us as much as we

 

           22              had done for them.  So do I agree with

 

           23              what's said, I mean, no.  I'm not going to

 

           24              sit here and I'm certainly not going to take

 

           25              a lot of the, I want to say the sad, the sad

 

 

 

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            1              accusations from people, but I certainly

 

            2              will talk about what I do believe and what I

 

            3              believe is fact, so that is another thing I

 

            4              wanted to talk about.

 

            5                      I also wanted to talk about two

 

            6              things that we do have on the agenda, the

 

            7              trees was one.  Oh, I do have to speak about

 

            8              this.  That money that we have taken from

 

            9              the other projects cannot be used to give to

 

           10              people for heat.  It cannot be used to give

 

           11              to people for low income housing.  It's sad

 

           12              and it's unfortunate, but it can't be used

 

           13              for that, so either we don't use it, which

 

           14              maybe is an option, I don't know if you

 

           15              would rather us not use funds that we have

 

           16              for reasons that we can use them for and

 

           17              invest in things that maybe you can benefit

 

           18              from then maybe we shouldn't use it as all

 

           19              or we have to use it for what it's

 

           20              structured for, that's these projects are

 

           21              about and I'm sorry, but we did -- I would

 

           22              love to see us pay people's heating bills

 

           23              and I would certainly love to see more low

 

           24              income housing, love to see it all over the

 

           25              city, but we certainly can't use this money

 

 

 

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            1              for it.  So, yes, trees are a good thing.  I

 

            2              don't find them as ridiculous as everyone

 

            3              that got up to speak did.

 

            4                      And, also, as far as another problem

 

            5              that we had I think we discussed that in

 

            6              caucus tonight some understanding about what

 

            7              monies could be used and different zoning,

 

            8              we were discussing it in caucus and I

 

            9              believe we came to a conclusions on that,

 

           10              also, but that is really all I have.  And I

 

           11              know that for some reason I'm not supposed

 

           12              to speak what I believe even the fact that I

 

           13              have been elected to do so, I will continue

 

           14              to say what I need to say and I will

 

           15              continue to work very hard at what I do and

 

           16              we don't have to agree, but, yes, respectful

 

           17              would be very nice, and that's all I have to

 

           18              say.  Thank you very much.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Mrs.

 

           20              Gatelli.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI: I have nothing at this

 

           22              time, Mr. McGoff.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: Just very quickly, I had

 

           24              an answer for Mr. Quinn, I see he has left.

 

           25              He asked last week who had prepared the

 

 

 

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            1              specifications for the bids on the

 

            2              channel -- on the operation of Channel 61.

 

            3              I am told that it was prepared by the city

 

            4              law department in conjunction with the

 

            5              contract from Comcast and who in the law

 

            6              department I am not sure, I believe it was

 

            7              my assumption that it was Attorney Farrell

 

            8              prior to his leaving and I hope that that

 

            9              answers Mr. Quinn's question.  And that's

 

           10              all I have for this evening as well.

 

           11                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR

 

           12              INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE

 

           13              OF THE COUNCIL NO. 6, 1976 ENTITLED "AN

 

           14              ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED) IMPOSING A TAX FOR

 

           15              GENERAL REVENUE PURPOSES ON THE TRANSFER OF

 

           16              REAL PROPERTY SITUATED WITHIN THE CITY OF

 

           17              SCRANTON; PRESCRIBING AND REGULATING THE

 

           18              METHOD OF EVIDENCING THE PAYMENT OF SUCH

 

           19              TAX; CONFERRING POWERS IMPOSING DUTIES UPON

 

           20              CERTAIN PERSONS, AND PROVIDING PENALTIES",

 

           21              BY IMPOSING THE RATE OF THE REALTY TRANSFER

 

           22              TAX AT 2.5% FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR 2008.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           24              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

           25              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            4              those in favor?

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           10              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           11                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           12              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF THE COUNCIL

 

           13              NO. 7, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS

 

           14              AMENDED) IMPOSING A MERCANTILE LICENSE TAX

 

           15              OF 2 MILLS FOR THE YEAR 1976 AND ANNUALLY

 

           16              THEREAFTER UPON PERSONS ENGAGING IN CERTAIN

 

           17              OCCUPATIONS AND BUSINESSES THEREIN;

 

           18              PROVIDING FOR IT'S LEVY AND COLLECTION AND

 

           19              FOR THE ISSUANCE OF MERCANTILE LICENSES;

 

           20              CONFERRING AND IMPOSING POWERS AND DUTIES ON

 

           21              THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON;

 

           22              AND IMPOSING PENALTIES", BY IMPOSING THE

 

           23              MERCANTILE LICENSE TAX AT 1 MILL FOR

 

           24              CALENDAR YEAR 2008.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

 

 

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            1              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be

 

            2              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            6              those in favor?

 

            7                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           12              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           13                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           14              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           15              8, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED)

 

           16              PROVIDING FOR THE GENERAL REVENUE BY

 

           17              IMPOSING A TAX AT THE RATE OF 2 MILL UPON

 

           18              THE PRIVILEGE OF OPERATING OR CONDUCTING

 

           19              BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON AS MEASURED

 

           20              BY THE GROSS RECEIPTS THEREFROM;

 

           21              REGISTRATION AND PAYMENT OF THE TAX AS

 

           22              CONDITION TO THE CONDUCTING OF SUCH

 

           23              BUSINESS; PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY AND

 

           24              COLLECTION OF SUCH TAX; PRESCRIBING SUCH

 

           25              REQUIREMENTS FOR RETURNS AND RECORDS;

 

 

 

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            1              CONFERRING POWERS AND DUTIES UPON THE TAX

 

            2              COLLECTOR; AND IMPOSING PENALTIES", BY

 

            3              IMPOSING THE BUSINESS PRIVILEGE TAX AT THE

 

            4              RATE OF 1 MILL FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2008.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            6              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be

 

            7              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           11              those in favor?

 

           12                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           17              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           18                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           19              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           20              11, 1976, ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS

 

           21              AMENDED) ENACTING, IMPOSING A TAX FOR

 

           22              GENERAL REVENUE PURPOSES IN THE AMOUNT OF 2%

 

           23              ON EARNED INCOME AND NET PROFITS ON PERSONS,

 

           24              INDIVIDUALS, ASSOCIATIONS AND BUSINESSES WHO

 

           25              ARE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON, OR

 

 

 

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            1              NON-RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON, FOR

 

            2              WORK DONE, SERVICES PERFORMED OR BUSINESS

 

            3              CONDUCTED WITHIN THE CITY OF SCRANTON,

 

            4              REQUIRING THE FILING OF RETURNS BY TAX

 

            5              PAYERS SUBJECT TO THE TAX; REQUIRING

 

            6              EMPLOYERS TO COLLECT THE TAX AT SOURCE;

 

            7              PROVIDING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, COLLECTION

 

            8              AND ENFORCEMENT OF THESE SAID TAX; AND

 

            9              IMPOSING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATIONS", BY

 

           10              IMPOSING THE WAGE TAX AT 2.4% ON EARNED

 

           11              INCOME FOR THE YEAR 2008 FOR RESIDENTS.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           13              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be

 

           14              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           18              those in favor?

 

           19                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           24              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

 

 

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            1              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

            2              17, 1994 ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS AMENDED)

 

            3              AUTHORIZING THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY

 

            4              OF SCRANTON TO ENACT A "WASTE DISPOSAL AND

 

            5              COLLECTION FEE" FOR THE PURPOSE OF RAISING

 

            6              REVENUE TO COVER THE WASTE DISPOSAL AND

 

            7              COLLECTION COSTS INCURRED BY THE CITY OF

 

            8              SCRANTON FOR THE DISPOSAL OF REFUSE", BY

 

            9              IMPOSING A WASTE DISPOSAL AND COLLECTION FEE

 

           10              OF $178.00 FOR CALENDAR YEAR 2008.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           12              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be

 

           13              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           14                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           17              those in favor?

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           20                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: No. The ayes have it and

 

           23              so moved.

 

           24                      MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           25              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

 

 

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            1              100, 1976 ENTITLED "AN ORDINANCE (AS

 

            2              AMENDED) LEVYING GENERAL AND SPECIAL TAXES

 

            3              FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1977", BY SETTING THE

 

            4              MILLAGE FOR THE YEAR 2008.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            6              entertain a motion that Item 5-G be

 

            7              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           11              those in favor?

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           13                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?

 

           15                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: The ayes have it and so

 

           18              moved.

 

           19                      MS. GARVEY: 5-H. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           20              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           21              74, 1993, (AS AMENDED), ENTITLED "THE ZONING

 

           22              ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF SCRANTON", BY

 

           23              CHANGING THE MAP IN THE VICINITY OF THE

 

           24              SCRANTON HIGH SCHOOL AND ITS SURROUNDING

 

           25              AREA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN

 

 

 

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            1              EXHIBIT "A" ATTACHED HERETO FROM I-L (LIGHT

 

            2              INDUSTRIAL) TO INS-G (GENERAL INSTITUTIONAL)

 

            3              AND C-G (GENERAL COMMERCIAL).

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            5              entertain a motion that Item 5-H be

 

            6              introduced into it's into proper committee.

 

            7                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: I had raised concerns

 

           11              last week regarding this particular piece of

 

           12              legislation.  I did receive a response from

 

           13              Tom King, city planner, regarding my

 

           14              questions, and to sum up that response let

 

           15              me say that he indicates that the area is

 

           16              now, as we know, light industrial and is

 

           17              being proposed to change to general

 

           18              commercial, both zones allow for fast food

 

           19              restaurants, for gas stations, if the zone

 

           20              remains as is they are a permitted use.  If

 

           21              the zone changes or approved they would have

 

           22              to go before the zoning board and planning

 

           23              commission for a special exception by

 

           24              proving all of section numbers A through G

 

           25              which is enclosed with the letter of

 

 

 

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            1              response that we each received and so it

 

            2              does appear that by enacting this change to

 

            3              the zoning map we may at least have the

 

            4              possibility of preventing such businesses

 

            5              from locating directly next to the soccer

 

            6              fields of Scranton High School.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those

 

            8              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

            9                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           14              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           15                      MS. GARVEY: 5-I. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           16              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF COUNCIL NO.

 

           17              49, 2006, ENTITLED, "AN ORDINANCE

 

           18              AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

           19              OFFICIALS OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO TAKE

 

           20              ALL NECESSARY ACTIONS TO IMPLEMENT THE

 

           21              CONSOLIDATED SUBMISSION FOR COMMUNITY

 

           22              PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS (AS

 

           23              AMENDED) TO BE FUNDED UNDER THE COMMUNITY

 

           24              DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT (CDBG) PROGRAM, HOME

 

           25              INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIP (HOME) PROGRAM AND

 

 

 

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            1              EMERGENCY SHELTER GRANT (ESG) PROGRAM", BY

 

            2              TRANSFERRING $50,000.00 FROM PROJECT NO.

 

            3              96-204 AND $9,493.80 FROM PROJECT NO. 99-212

 

            4              AND $88.75 FROM PROJECT NO. 03-005.9 AND

 

            5              $400.00 FROM PROJECT NO. 05-152 AND $680.59

 

            6              FROM PROJECT NO. 06-182 AND $49.20 FROM

 

            7              PROJECT NO. 06-05.12 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF

 

            8              $60,712.34 TO PROJECT NO. 07-18 TREE

 

            9              PLANTING PROJECT.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           11              entertain a motion that Item 5-I be

 

           12              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Mr. McGoff, I do

 

           17              understand from the information I received

 

           18              from OECD that the monies must be used or

 

           19              they will be lost, but I'm wondering if we

 

           20              might inquire before the final vote what

 

           21              other projects would be eligible.  I do

 

           22              believe that the tree planting project is

 

           23              certainly worthy, but as many constituents

 

           24              indicated there may be other projects that

 

           25              may be of greater priority for which the

 

 

 

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            1              money could be used.  I guess my bottom line

 

            2              is I would doubt that anywhere in the HUD

 

            3              requirements of this state that such unused

 

            4              monies must be channeled into a tree

 

            5              planting project in order to be utilized.

 

            6              So if that would be agreeable to council?

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: I'll inquire to find out

 

            8              if there were any or projects that could for

 

            9              which this could be been used.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on the

 

           12              question?  All those in favor signify by

 

           13              saying aye?

 

           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           19              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: Just one moment before

 

           21              we go any further, I would like to go back

 

           22              to 5-H and make a motion that we have a

 

           23              public hearing and have Kay put the proper

 

           24              advertisement into the newspaper.

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

            2              in favor?

 

            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            8              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-J. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           10              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           11              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE

 

           12              AND ENTER INTO A CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL

 

           13              SERVICES WITH THE LAW FIRM OF CARL J. GRECO,

 

           14              P.C., FOR LEGAL SERVICES INCLUDING BUT NOT

 

           15              LIMITED TO GENERAL COUNSEL TO THE OFFICE OF

 

           16              ECONOMIC AN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ("OECD"),

 

           17              URBAN RENEWAL PROCESS AND PROCE3DURE,

 

           18              EMINENT DOMAIN AND RELATED LITIGATION,

 

           19              DISPOSITION OF SURPLUS URBAN RENEWAL LANDS,

 

           20              TITLE SEARCHES AND DEED PREPARATION.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-J be

 

           23              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            2              those in favor?

 

            3                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            8              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-K FOR INTRODUCTION - A

 

           10              RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE ZONING HEARING

 

           11              BOARD OF THE CITY OF SCRANTON TO EXTEND THE

 

           12              CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WITH

 

           13              DANIEL L. PENETAR, JR., ESQUIRE TO ACT AS

 

           14              IT'S SOLICITOR FROM JULY 1, 2007 THROUGH

 

           15              JULY 1, 2008.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF:  At this time I'll

 

           17              entertain a motion that 5-K be introduced

 

           18              into it's proper committee.

 

           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           22              in favor.

 

           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            3              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: 5-L FOR INTRODUCTION - A

 

            5              RESOLUTION - REAPPOINTMENT OF JOSEPH

 

            6              DEANTONA, 1331 CORNELL STREET, SCRANTON,

 

            7              PENNSYLVANIA, 18504, AS A MEMBER OF THE

 

            8              SCRANTON LACKAWANNA HEALTH & WELFARE

 

            9              AUTHORITY.  MR. DEANTONA'S TERM EXPIRED ON

 

           10              DECEMBER 31, 207 AND HIS NEW TERM WILL

 

           11              EXPIRE ON DECEMBER 31, 2012.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           13              entertain a motion that Item 5-L be

 

           14              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           15                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           18              those in favor?

 

           19                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           22                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

           24              ayes have it and so moved.

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  6-A. 6-A.

 

 

 

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            1              READING BY TITLE - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 1,

 

            2              2008 - AN ORDINANCE - VACATING ANY AND ALL

 

            3              RIGHT, TITLE AND INTEREST OF THE CITY OF

 

            4              SCRANTON IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN AS

 

            5              SMALLACOMBE DRIVE AS MORE PARTICULARLY

 

            6              DESCRIBED ON THE MAP ATTACHED HERETO.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard read by

 

            8              title of Item 6-A, what is your pleasure?

 

            9                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-A

 

           10              pass reading by title.

 

           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  I

 

           13              would just like to say I think Mr. Sbaraglia

 

           14              brought up some interesting questions.  I

 

           15              certainly will make an attempt to look into

 

           16              some of those things prior to next meeting

 

           17              and -- oh, I'm sorry.  Sorry, Mr. Sbaraglia,

 

           18              I got the wrong one.

 

           19                      MR. SBARAGLIA: No, you are right in

 

           20              the direction.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those

 

           22              in favor?

 

           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            3              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY:  Just for a point of

 

            5              information, the public hearing for this

 

            6              legislation has been scheduled for

 

            7              February 19.

 

            8                      MS. EVANS: And if I might add in the

 

            9              back up, Mr. Sbaraglia, it does state that

 

           10              the roadway and improvements were

 

           11              constructed to the City of Scranton's

 

           12              specifications and the city engineer has

 

           13              inspected and found the roadways and

 

           14              improvements to meet his satisfaction.   Now,

 

           15              my question would be, however, who is the

 

           16              city engineer that this refers to?

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI: Are we still on

 

           18              Smallcombe or on the next one?

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Are we on 6-B?

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: 6-A.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: This is prior to 6-b.

 

           22                      MS. GATELLI: Smallcombe.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  We didn't vote on

 

           24              6-A yet, right?

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI: Yeah, we did.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We are on this.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Are we on this one?

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: Are you talking about

 

            4              6-A?

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT: 6-B.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: 6-A.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI: 6-A, I'm sure that

 

            8              would have been Parker.

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: He is still in our

 

           10              employ?

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI: No, but I'm sure he was

 

           12              when this was vacated.  You can check it,

 

           13              but, we did pass it, so --

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: I'll look into it, I'll

 

           15              see.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm sorry, Mrs. Garvey.

 

           18                      MS. GARVEY: 6-B. READING BY TITLE -

 

           19              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 2, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -

 

           20              PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE AND DEDICATION

 

           21              OF JAMESTOWN WAY CIRCLE AND PARK EDGE LANE;

 

           22              AS WELL AS ALL THE STORM DRAINAGE SYSTEM

 

           23              UNDERLYING SAID STREETS AND RIGHTS-OF-WAY;

 

           24              AL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED IMPROVEMENTS BEING

 

           25              LOCATED IN THE KEYSER TERRACE SUBDIVISION IN

 

 

 

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            1              THE CITY OF SCRANTON, PENNSYLVANIA; ASLO

 

            2              AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND OTHER APPROPRIATE

 

            3              CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT FOR THE SUM OF ONE

 

            4              DOLLAR ($1.00) AND TO RECORD IN THE OFFICIAL

 

            5              RECORDS AT THE OFFICE OF THE RECORDER OF

 

            6              DEEDS FOR LACKAWANNA COUNTY A DEED FOR THE

 

            7              AFORESAID PUBLIC STREETS AND IMPROVEMENTS.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading

 

            9              by title of Item 6-B, what is your pleasure?

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-B

 

           11              pass reading by title.

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           14                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  Those remarks

 

           15              pertained to 6-B rather than 6-A.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Yes.  I got ahead of

 

           17              myself, but I will try and find out.

 

           18                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those

 

           20              in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           24                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

 

 

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            1              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            2                      MS. GARVEY: 6-C. READING BY TITLE -

 

            3              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 3, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -

 

            4              AUTHORIZING THE AUCTION AND SALE OF

 

            5              CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ACQUIRED PURSUANT TO THE

 

            6              LACKAWANNA RIVER FLOOD CONTROL PROJECT,

 

            7              SITUATED AT THE CORNER OF DIAMOND AVENUE AND

 

            8              WOOD STREET, THE FORMER CORDARO BUILDING AND

 

            9              RECORDED AT RECORD BOOK 0720- PAGE 325.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard reading

 

           11              by title of Item 6-C, what is your pleasure?

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that Item 6-C

 

           13              pass reading by title.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Second.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Yes, I had a concern

 

           17              initially regarding the auction costs and I

 

           18              learned that those costs would be passed

 

           19              along to the purchaser, so the City of

 

           20              Scranton will not obviously assume the costs

 

           21              for the auction itself.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else on 6-C?  All

 

           23              those in favor signify by saying aye.

 

           24                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            4              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            5                      MS. GARVEY: 6-D. READING BY TITLE -

 

            6              FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 4, 2008 - AN ORDINANCE -

 

            7              AMENDING FILE OF THE COUNCIL NO. 86, 1998

 

            8              ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE "AMENDING FILE OF THE

 

            9              COUNCIL NO. 148, 1993, ENTITLED "AN

 

           10              ORDINANCE GOVERNING THE DESIGN,

 

           11              CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, ENLARGEMENT,

 

           12              REPAIR, DEMOLITION, REMOVAL, CONVERSION, USE

 

           13              AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL BUILDINGS AND

 

           14              STRUCTURES KNOWN AS THE BUILDING CODE;

 

           15              PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMITS,

 

           16              COLLECTION OF FEES, MAKING OF INSPECTION,

 

           17              PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION

 

           18              THEREOF, ESTABLISHING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS

 

           19              FOR BUILDING UNDERWRITER INSPECTORS,

 

           20              DECLARING AND ESTABLISHING FIRE LIMITS" BY

 

           21              ADOPTING THE BOCA NATIONAL BUILDING CODE

 

           22              1993, ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE HOUSING CODE,

 

           23              TWELFTH EDITION" TO INSERT A NEW SECTION

 

           24              2(d) AND ADJUSTING ALL LETTERS AND NUMBERS

 

           25              ACCORDINGLY.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: You have heard Reading

 

            2              by Title of Item 6-D, what is your pleasure?

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I move that 6-D pass

 

            4              Reading by Title.

 

            5                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Yes.  I have a

 

            8              question on this, they are adopting the fire

 

            9              codes for BOCA and I would just like to have

 

           10              an insertion, an amendment put in there, on

 

           11              the second page under (e) it says, "No

 

           12              certificate of occupancy shall be issued

 

           13              until a final certificate is issued by the

 

           14              building underwriter's agency," and I would

 

           15              like that to also read, "And the Scranton

 

           16              Fire Department Fire Chief or Fire

 

           17              Inspection Office."

 

           18                      When I had occasion to work in

 

           19              community development a lot of the

 

           20              underwriters didn't have fire inspections

 

           21              and if they did it wasn't as stringent as

 

           22              the BOCA Code and I know that there were

 

           23              some places that were inspected that didn't

 

           24              have the proper amount of ingresses and

 

           25              exits and I just think that the fire

 

 

 

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            1              inspector should also be included when a

 

            2              commercial building is inspected.  So, I

 

            3              would like to have that inserted as an

 

            4              amendment into this piece of legislation.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: What section was that?

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI:  It's the second page

 

            7              under (e) where it says, "No certificate of

 

            8              occupancy shall be issued until a final

 

            9              certificate is issued by the building

 

           10              underwriter's agency."

 

           11                      I don't think that's sufficient, I

 

           12              think that the fire inspector should also

 

           13              sign off on a certificate of occupancy, and

 

           14              I don't know how we go about putting that

 

           15              amendment in there.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Do we have to have a

 

           17              motion to amend?

 

           18                      MR.  MINORA:  It has to be a motion

 

           19              to amend.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll make a motion to

 

           21              amend.

 

           22                      MR. MINORA: So it's a motion to

 

           23              amendment Section 1 00.

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI: File of Council No. 4,

 

           25              2008.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Section 113.2.1 (e).

 

            2                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: To, "No certificate of

 

            4              occupancy shall be issued until final

 

            5              certificate is issued by the building

 

            6              underwriter's agency and --"

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI: And the Scranton Fire

 

            8              Department.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  "And the Scranton Fire

 

           10              Department."

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI:  Which would be the

 

           12              chief or the fire inspector, but I think the

 

           13              fire has to have a say in a certificate of

 

           14              occupancy only from my having worked there

 

           15              and I know the ramifications when it's not.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: So the motion, the

 

           17              amendment would read:  "No certificate of

 

           18              occupancy shall be issued until the final

 

           19              certificate is issued by the building

 

           20              underwriter's agency and the Scranton Fire

 

           21              Department.

 

           22                      MS. GATELLI:  That's my motion, Mrs.

 

           23              Fanucci seconded it.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: I seconded it.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

 

 

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            1              those in favor?

 

            2                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            7              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            8                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: We need to -- we

 

           10              actually need to vote on 6-D.

 

           11                      MR. MINORA: You have to vote on "D",

 

           12              that was a motion.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: 6-D as amended.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Right.

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll make a motion

 

           16              that we approve 6-D as amended.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Do we need to --  yeah,

 

           18              we have already read it, so we are now

 

           19              voting on 6-D.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI:  As amended.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: As amended.  Anyone else

 

           22              on the question?  All those in favor?

 

           23                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  Opposed?  The

 

            3              ayes have it and so moved.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: SEVENTH ORDER.  7-A. FOR

 

            5              CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC

 

            6              SAFETY - FOR ADOPTION - RESOLUTION NO. 2,

 

            7              20O8 - APPROVING THE MODIFICATION OF

 

            8              EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON SOUTH MAIN