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            1               SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7                 Tuesday, January 15, 2008

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                    Council Chambers

 

           11                 Scranton City Hall

 

           12              340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                            CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI    (Not present)

 

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT (Not present)

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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                MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF:  Please stand for the

 

            2              Pledge of Allegiance.

 

            3                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited and

 

            4              moment of reflection observed.)

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I would

 

            6              like to ask if everyone would please turn

 

            7              off cell phones, beepers, or at least put

 

            8              them to vibrate for the duration of the

 

            9              meeting.  Roll call.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Evans.

 

           11                      MS. EVANS: Here.

 

           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.  Ms.

 

           13              Fanucci.  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI: Here.

 

           15                      MR. COOLICAN: Mr. McGoff.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Here.  I'd like the

 

           17              record to reflect that Mrs. Fanucci will not

 

           18              be at tonight's meeting for personal reasons

 

           19              and also that Mr. Courtright called and that

 

           20              there was a family emergency and that he

 

           21              would like -- he will attempt to make the

 

           22              meeting, he may be late or he may not be

 

           23              able to make the meeting at all.  Thank you.

 

           24                   I'd like to dispense with the reading

 

           25              of the minutes, and --

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS: As you may know from last

 

            2              week's meeting, Mr. Courtright and I had

 

            3              concerns about one of the changes to the

 

            4              rules of City Council.  And both of us had

 

            5              discussed these concerns further with

 

            6              Mr. McGoff and Mr. McGoff had requested that

 

            7              an amendment would be drafted in order to

 

            8              allow council members to respond to the

 

            9              questions or comments made by citizens

 

           10              during Fourth Order or to do so during 5-A,

 

           11              Motions, and I had hoped that Mr. Courtright

 

           12              would have been with us at this point in the

 

           13              evening.  He had asked Attorney Minora to

 

           14              draft such an amendment.  I had drafted one

 

           15              myself, but the one drafted by our solicitor

 

           16              is the one that I will read this evening

 

           17              and, as I said, I had hoped at that

 

           18              Mr. Courtright would have been here to do

 

           19              this and cast his vote as well.

 

           20                      I move to amend Resolution 1 of

 

           21              2008, the Rules of Council.  I move we amend

 

           22              Article V, Section 1-B, by removing the

 

           23              third sentence of that paragraph, "Council

 

           24              members may respond to citizens' questions

 

           25              and/or comments during 5-A motions," and

 

 

 

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            1              inserting the following sentences, "Council

 

            2              members may at the president's discretion

 

            3              respond to citizens' questions and/or

 

            4              comments during Fourth Order, Citizens'

 

            5              Participation.  The five-minute time limit

 

            6              for citizens' participation shall include

 

            7              any time that council members may speak in

 

            8              response to the citizens' questions or

 

            9              comments.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: I'll second that

 

           11              motion.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  As I was reading it

 

           14              I only have one concern and it is that we

 

           15              may answer during the Fourth Order at the

 

           16              president's discretion.  May we answer at

 

           17              our own discretion if the question is posed

 

           18              through you to us?

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: I think that's pretty

 

           20              much what we have done in the past, isn't

 

           21              it?

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: Yes, but I wanted to

 

           23              clarify that since the language of the

 

           24              motion is different.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: I believe that that's

 

 

 

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            1              just -- the motion was written to follow I

 

            2              believe Robert's Rules of Order that, you

 

            3              know, any question be through the president,

 

            4              but I'm fine with that.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: So, just to --

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Procedurally.

 

            7                      MS. EVANS: -- repeat here, I think I

 

            8              hear you saying that we are able to respond

 

            9              within the five-minute time frame to a

 

           10              question posed by a citizen to any

 

           11              individual council member?

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Absolutely.

 

           13                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  I would

 

           15              just like to say that there was no intent on

 

           16              my part to create controversy by the changes

 

           17              that were originally made.  Upon hearing the

 

           18              discussion last week, it seemed reasonable

 

           19              that these changes be made and so I did ask

 

           20              Mrs. Evans and eventually Mr. Courtright if

 

           21              they would draft the legislation or draft a

 

           22              motion and I fully approve it.  I don't

 

           23              believe we need a roll call on this, do we?

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: It's just a motion.  All

 

 

 

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            1              in favor?

 

            2                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  All opposed?  The

 

            5              ayes have it and so approved.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Before we get to Third

 

            8              Order there is just one thing that I would

 

            9              like to make mention of, next week, next

 

           10              weekend, this coming weekend is the

 

           11              observance of Martin Luther King Day.  There

 

           12              are a series of events that are scheduled

 

           13              throughout the city at various times,

 

           14              Saturday at 10 a.m., bus tour focusing on

 

           15              Pennsylvania's roll in the underground

 

           16              railroad.  I'm reading from a thing that was

 

           17              in the Sunday paper, by the way, it was a

 

           18              schedule of events, so you can access that

 

           19              as well.  Sunday at 6:00 p.m., program at

 

           20              Scranton High School featuring dancers,

 

           21              music, and an address by Rosette Adera,

 

           22              director of equity and diversity at the

 

           23              University of Scranton; and then Monday

 

           24              there are a number of activities, Peace and

 

           25              Justice Day program at the University of

 

 

 

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            1              Scranton at 10:30; an all-ages event at the

 

            2              United Neighborhood Centers' Progressive

 

            3              Center, teaching the live of Martin Luther

 

            4              King and Pennsylvania's underground railroad

 

            5              at 1:15 and 4:15.  UNC Progressive Center

 

            6              for annual March to Sister Adrian Barrett's

 

            7              annual march to the Lackawanna County

 

            8              Courthouse.  At 5:30 city dignitaries will

 

            9              speak on the holiday.  6:30 Scranton

 

           10              Cultural Center there will be refreshments

 

           11              for all marchers; and then, finally, at 7

 

           12              p.m. a Central City Ministerial Interfaith

 

           13              Service, interfaith service at Bethel AME

 

           14              Church.  I don't know if that is a

 

           15              comprehensive list of events, but it is what

 

           16              was in the paper and I would encourage all

 

           17              to, you know, attend all or part of them and

 

           18              thank you.

 

           19                      MS. EVANS:  May I?

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Oh, I'm sorry, yes.

 

           21                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  The West

 

           22              Scranton Wrestling Invader-mat Boosters are

 

           23              sponsoring a Night at the Races at Saints

 

           24              Peter and Paul Russian Orthodox Church on

 

           25              Academy Street in West Scranton.  On

 

 

 

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            1              Saturday, January 26th at 7:00 p.m., all

 

            2              proceeds benefit West Scranton Wrestling.

 

            3              Admission to the Night at the Races is $10

 

            4              and tickets may be purchased at the door.

 

            5              Admission includes food, soda, beer and

 

            6              coffee, and, of course, one must be 21 years

 

            7              of age to be admitted.  Hope to see you

 

            8              there.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Gatelli, anything?

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: No, I just have one

 

           11              request, at a meeting in early December I

 

           12              believe it was I made a motion to give a

 

           13              proclamation to the West Scranton football

 

           14              team if we could make those arrangements?

 

           15                      MS. GARVEY:  Okay.  Yes, Sue has all

 

           16              of the information and pretty much has the

 

           17              proclamation prepared, but we were just

 

           18              waiting for council's go ahead.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI: I'll talk to the

 

           20              athletic director tomorrow.

 

           21                      MS. GARVEY: To try and coordinate a

 

           22              date.

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI:  Is that all right, Mr.

 

           24              McGoff?

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: Absolutely.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI: Janet?

 

            2                      MS. EVANS: Oh, yes.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Even though it's West

 

            4              Scranton.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Even though.  I love them

 

            6              anyway.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Third Order?

 

            8                      MS. GARVEY:  THIRD ORDER.  3-A.

 

            9              MINUTES OF THE VACANT PROPERTY REVIEW

 

           10              COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18,

 

           11              2007.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           13              If not, received and filed.

 

           14                      MS. GARVEY: 3-B. MINUTES OF THE

 

           15              FIREMEN'S PENSION COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON

 

           16              OCTOBER 24, 2007.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  Are there any comments?

 

           18              If not, received and filed.

 

           19                      MS. GARVEY: 3-C. MINUTES OF THE

 

           20              SCRANTON POLICE PENSION COMMISSION MEETING

 

           21              HELD ON NOVEMBER 14, 2007.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           23              If not, received and filed.

 

           24                      MS. GARVEY: 3-D. MINUTES OF THE

 

           25              NON-UNIFORM MUNICIPAL PENSION MEETING HELD

 

 

 

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            1              ON NOVEMBER 14, 2007.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            3              If not, received and filed.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: 3-E. MINUTES OF THE

 

            5              COMPOSITE PENSION BOARD MEETING HELD ON

 

            6              NOVEMBER 14, 2007.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            8              If not, received and filed.

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 3-F.  MINUTES OF THE

 

           10              SCRANTON-LACKAWANNA HEALTH & WELFARE

 

           11              AUTHORITY MEETING HELD ON NOVEMBER 15, 2007.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           13              If not, received and filed.

 

           14                      MS. GARVEY: 3-G. AGENDA FOR THE

 

           15              VACANT PROPERTY REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING

 

           16              HELD ON DECEMBER 11, 2007.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           18              If not, received and filed.

 

           19                      MS. GARVEY: 3-H. AGENDA FOR THE CITY

 

           20              PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER

 

           21              19, 2007.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           23              If not, received and filed.

 

           24                      MS. GARVEY: 3-I. AGENDA FOR THE

 

           25              NON-UNIFORM MUNICIPAL PENSION MEETINGS HELD

 

 

 

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            1              ON DECEMBER 19, 2007.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            3              If not, received and filed.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: 3-J. AGENDA FOR THE

 

            5              ZONING HEARING BOARD MEETING HELD ON JANUARY

 

            6              9, 2007.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

            8              If not, received and filed.

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 3-K. APPLICATIONS AND

 

           10              DECISIONS RENDERED BY THE ZONING HEARING

 

           11              BOARD MEETING HELD ON DECEMBER 12, 2007.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  Are there any comments?

 

           13              If not, received and filed.

 

           14                      MS. GARVEY: 3-L. CONTROLLER'S REPORT

 

           15              FOR THE MONTH ENDING NOVEMBER 30, 2007.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           17              If not, received and filed.

 

           18                      MS. GARVEY: 3-M.  APPLICATIONS AND

 

           19              DECISION RENDERED BY THE ZONING HEARING

 

           20              BOARD MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 9, 2008.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Are there any comments?

 

           22              If not, received and filed.

 

           23                      MS. GARVEY: FOURTH ORDER.  CITIZENS

 

           24              PARTICIPATION.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: First speaker, Douglas

 

 

 

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            1              Miller.

 

            2                      MR. MILLER:  Good evening, Council.

 

            3              Doug Miller, president of the Scranton

 

            4              Junior City Council.  Last evening I

 

            5              attended the Scranton School Board meeting

 

            6              held at West Scranton High School.  I

 

            7              addressed the board not on behalf of Junior

 

            8              Council but as a student of West Scranton

 

            9              High School.  I proposed to the board a

 

           10              district wide dress down day and to members

 

           11              of the school board and to district CEO Mike

 

           12              Sheridan, I proposed a district wide dress

 

           13              down day in which all proceeds from this

 

           14              dress down day would benefit Captain James

 

           15              Robeson memorial fund that was setup by his

 

           16              family.  I made this proposal because I feel

 

           17              that it is our responsibility to honor

 

           18              Captain Robeson's name and the names of all

 

           19              firefighters in the City of Scranton.

 

           20                      This afternoon I met with Scranton

 

           21              school district CEO Mike Sheridan to discuss

 

           22              other ways to honor Captain Robeson and I am

 

           23              pleased to announce that a memorial plaque

 

           24              will be placed in the main lobby in West

 

           25              Scranton High School to honor Captain

 

 

 

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            1              Robeson who was a West Scranton graduate.

 

            2              We have also organized a perpetual

 

            3              scholarship in honor of Captain Robeson's

 

            4              name.  Captain Robeson is a man who

 

            5              dedicated his life to protect the lives of

 

            6              others in our city.  He was one of our own

 

            7              and he will be missed by family, friends and

 

            8              fellow colleagues.

 

            9                      Finally, I would like to take this

 

           10              time to thank Mrs. Gatelli for her two years

 

           11              of service as council president.  It was an

 

           12              honor to work with you during that time and

 

           13              I look forward to continuing to work closely

 

           14              with you while I serve on junior council.

 

           15              You are a true leader, one who is backed by

 

           16              the majority of the citizens in our city and

 

           17              your service is greatly appreciated, so

 

           18              thank you.

 

           19                      Mr. McGoff, on behalf of junior

 

           20              council I congratulate you on your

 

           21              appointment as council president, I have no

 

           22              doubt that you will handle your position

 

           23              with class and integrity.  As president of

 

           24              the junior council, I look forward to

 

           25              working with you.  As we enter the Year 2008

 

 

 

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            1              we must turn the page to a new chapter, a

 

            2              fresh start, one where we can all work

 

            3              together and get along because at the end of

 

            4              the day we are all here for the same reason

 

            5              and that is to improve the quality of life

 

            6              for all of our citizens in our progressive

 

            7              city.  Thank you.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Miller.

 

            9              Fay Franus.

 

           10                      MS. FRANUS: Fay Franus, Scranton.  I

 

           11              was pleased to see that you changed the

 

           12              rules, Mr. McGoff, I just have to wonder why

 

           13              you did it though because I think if Mrs.

 

           14              Evans and Mr. Courtright didn't say last

 

           15              week that they wouldn't abide it that you

 

           16              would still enforce them, so I just didn't

 

           17              think want to brag about that because you

 

           18              would look like a fool.

 

           19                      I would also like -- since you are

 

           20              saying about respecting people, I noticed

 

           21              that how much respect do you have for your

 

           22              fellow council members, Mrs. Evans and Mr.

 

           23              Courtright, when they didn't even know about

 

           24              these new rules, weren't they even

 

           25              considered?  Didn't you take their -- how

 

 

 

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            1              come they weren't notified about the new

 

            2              rules?  They read about it in the paper.

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: Do you want --

 

            4                      MS. FRANUS: Yes, that was a

 

            5              question.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: Are you asking for a

 

            7              response?

 

            8                      MS. FRANUS:  Yeah, it was a

 

            9              question.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay.  Mr. Courtright

 

           11              was-- I talked to Mr. Courtright on Friday

 

           12              before the meeting and I did not have an

 

           13              opportunity to talk with Mrs. Evans, we

 

           14              could not make contact, although, I did make

 

           15              the attempt and also they were in the

 

           16              agendas which were available to everyone on

 

           17              Friday.

 

           18                      MS. FRANUS:  Let me ask you about

 

           19              Attorney Grecco that he is getting this

 

           20              contract again, it's very transparent.  Here

 

           21              is man that has had the contract for like

 

           22              seven years and nobody else even wants to

 

           23              bid on it because they know when they set it

 

           24              up that the application read through like

 

           25              certain requirements that only fit Attorney

 

 

 

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            1              Grecco so he could get it now, why wouldn't

 

            2              you want somebody else to have a chance to

 

            3              get this contract?  It's just so

 

            4              transparent.  It's just so much cronyism

 

            5              here, it's the same 'ole, same 'ole again.

 

            6                   Another question, you mentioned about

 

            7              the police being here.  Why do you feel that

 

            8              the police should be here?  Do you feel

 

            9              threatened like Mrs. Gatelli did?

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Again, I will respond as

 

           11              I did to when Mr. Brown asked me the

 

           12              question, I feel that in any public meeting

 

           13              where citizens are present that there should

 

           14              be a police presence.  It's not for personal

 

           15              protection, it's not because I feel

 

           16              threatened, I just feel that any meeting

 

           17              that should be the case.

 

           18                      MS. FRANUS:  How come other meetings

 

           19              don't have them?  I mean, it's the same

 

           20              room, different people?

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: I don't know and if it

 

           22              were me I would require that.

 

           23                      MS. FRANUS:  The zoning board, the

 

           24              planning commission.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: I would require that any

 

 

 

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            1              meeting where the public was present that

 

            2              there be a policeman.

 

            3                      MS. FRANUS:  Is that something that

 

            4              should be discussed through city hall, like

 

            5              something that the mayor should enforce or

 

            6              is that something each president of each

 

            7              committee should enforce?

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: Well, it's a personal --

 

            9              it's a personal belief on my part.  Would I

 

           10              recommend it to others?  Yes.  But, I don't

 

           11              know that it's -- like I said, it's my

 

           12              personal belief and I'm going to try and --

 

           13              I will continue to ask that a police man be

 

           14              here.

 

           15                      MS. FRANUS:  Let me ask you another

 

           16              question about the minutes, how come -- I

 

           17              don't know who does the minutes or I don't

 

           18              know anything about it, but how comes it

 

           19              takes so long for the minutes to be

 

           20              transcribed?  It's supposed to take a couple

 

           21              of days according to the Attorney General by

 

           22              law, only a couple of days for the minutes

 

           23              from the meetings to be transcribed and it

 

           24              takes a long time.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm not aware of the

 

 

 

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            1              procedure in which it's done, Mrs. Garvey

 

            2              may.

 

            3                      MS. FRANUS: Can someone check into

 

            4              that see if they could possibly --

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF:  I'm sorry?

 

            6                      MS. FRANUS: Could someone possibly

 

            7              check into that and see if they could

 

            8              possibly be done in a quicker fashion?

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF: I certainly will consult

 

           10              with Mrs. Garvey and, you know, see.  Thank

 

           11              you.

 

           12                      MS. FRANUS:  Also, I have requests

 

           13              for potholes.  I have like eight of them

 

           14              right in front of my house, right like not

 

           15              even two car lengths, eight potholes right

 

           16              in front of my house.  Is there anybody

 

           17              somebody could do something about that

 

           18              because it's hard on the cars.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: I would say that if you

 

           20              have any requests of that nature --

 

           21                      MS. FRANUS:  I have tried to call

 

           22              and all I get is a machine.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: I would suggest that you

 

           24              put it in writing, your request in writing,

 

           25              give it to Neil and please put your name and

 

 

 

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            1              a contact number and that we will direct it

 

            2              to the appropriate agency.

 

            3                      MS. FRANUS:  Thank you very much.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you.  Andy

 

            5              Sbaraglia.

 

            6                      MS. GARVEY: Mr. McGoff, as far as

 

            7              having the minutes done, you know, sooner or

 

            8              whatever, we are just very grateful to have

 

            9              a court reporter able to be here to do those

 

           10              minutes for us and they do have quite a

 

           11              workload on their own that they have to do

 

           12              and then the length of the meetings being

 

           13              sometimes as long as they are, it kind of

 

           14              takes them a little bit longer to get them

 

           15              to us, but they do the best that they can.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           17              Mr. Sbaraglia.

 

           18                      MR. SBARAGLIA:  Andy Sbaraglia,

 

           19              citizen of Scranton, fellow Scrantonians.  I

 

           20              had a chance to look at the audits from the

 

           21              parking authority from the city for the '06,

 

           22              in '06 the parking authority had

 

           23              approximately 2 1/2 million dollar

 

           24              shortfall, the city had a million dollar

 

           25              shortfall approximately, pretty close to it.

 

 

 

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            1              So in '07 we had a huge tax increase.

 

            2                      One, the home occupation privilege

 

            3              tax, of course, was moved up to 52 bucks,

 

            4              and all of the real estate land and

 

            5              dwellings, of course, went on the

 

            6              25 percent.  This was done, I presume, to

 

            7              try to balance the budget or so forth and so

 

            8              on.  In 2008 we got a huge spending increase

 

            9              and we go back to the same old story, the

 

           10              more you give the more they spend.  There

 

           11              was nothing in this budget that call for

 

           12              restraint.  All they called for is more

 

           13              sacrifice on behalf of the individuals that

 

           14              live in this city and somehow or someway

 

           15              it's too late to stop it.  Not only that,

 

           16              you plan to even add more taxes with this

 

           17              amusement tax, more burden placed on the

 

           18              businessmen and even the churches within the

 

           19              city.  And this came at a very bad time.

 

           20              Your $2,000 tax, people don't pay their tax,

 

           21              was put in a very bad time.  You see what's

 

           22              happening across the nation, people are

 

           23              losing their homes.  The government sat on

 

           24              their hands when the banks increased all of

 

           25              them fees up and everybody got credit cards

 

 

 

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            1              and so forth and so on, now it's coming back

 

            2              to roost in this city.  And if you -- well,

 

            3              I shouldn't put that, it's too late.  You

 

            4              had an opportunity to try to hold on because

 

            5              you can see what's happening across the

 

            6              nation and that's going to come to Scranton,

 

            7              and that's going to effect a lot of people.

 

            8                      Fuel got out of hand, the cost is

 

            9              way up, people got to take a choice, are we

 

           10              going to eat, are we going to keep warm or

 

           11              pay our taxes?  Which would you choose?  And

 

           12              it's going to fall on a lot of people.  The

 

           13              government has become our enemy instead of

 

           14              our friend and that's what it shouldn't be.

 

           15              You say you have a lot of discord here, you

 

           16              are going to have a lot of discord, you are

 

           17              affecting people's lives, not only your own

 

           18              but your affecting them, but you may

 

           19              be well-off, more well-off than they were,

 

           20              hence, whatever you do affects them more

 

           21              than it affects you.  And that's why you get

 

           22              a lot of discord.  When you take bread from

 

           23              people's mouths you are going to get

 

           24              problems and so it happens.

 

           25                      I would like to read an article, I'm

 

 

 

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            1              going to read mine, "Fire pension and

 

            2              pension appeal is denied," a little article.

 

            3              "A bid to prevent ex-city council members

 

            4              from receiving a pension has failed.

 

            5              Firefighter Dave Gervasi and Robert Gavin,

 

            6              Junior, had appealed an early decision

 

            7              regarding John Pocius and Alex Hazzouri's

 

            8              city pension.  The appeal was denied because

 

            9              the firefighters filed a notice of appeal

 

           10              instead of a notice petitioning the Court

 

           11              for permission to appeal."

 

           12                      And so be it.  Technicalities, they

 

           13              are covering up.  The charter specifically

 

           14              states that you are not entitled to a

 

           15              pension.  It's true.  You are not entitled

 

           16              to a pension and the Court's said that, but

 

           17              yet two members, maybe even more, that

 

           18              served on council is getting a pension.

 

           19              Now, the question is has the law been

 

           20              broken?  Is there a law being broken that

 

           21              these members get the pension because they

 

           22              are in violation of the law.  When somebody

 

           23              violates the law and it's a letter of the

 

           24              law that's being violated, what action

 

           25              should be taken?  Should we petition a

 

 

 

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            1              different set of Courts to look into this?

 

            2              I hope the firefighters do.  I hope since --

 

            3              I don't know if I would have standing

 

            4              because I'm not in their pension plan, but I

 

            5              hope they appeal it, the decision, because

 

            6              this is important.  A law is a law.  If we

 

            7              disregard the law we disregard our

 

            8              liberties.  It has no effect anymore because

 

            9              a man can do what he wants to do or has a

 

           10              right to look at issues.  There is a little

 

           11              article in this think -- I thank you.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you for your

 

           13              concerns.  Mr. Quinn.

 

           14                      MR. QUINN:  Ozzie Quinn, president

 

           15              of the local taxpayers' association.  I want

 

           16              to commend you, Mr. McGoff, for your

 

           17              election to president and I felt good when

 

           18              you said according to the paper that you

 

           19              were going to keep yourself up with the

 

           20              legislation that comes before you because

 

           21              that was one of the big conflicts with the

 

           22              people and with the council before in

 

           23              regards to not everybody, but some people,

 

           24              didn't know what was coming before them when

 

           25              asked.

 

 

 

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            1                      I want to also ask you something in

 

            2              regard to Channel 61, all right?  There are

 

            3              specs out there, and I want to -- I tried to

 

            4              contact what's his name up in the business

 

            5              administrator's office, Stu Renda, and I

 

            6              tried to ten times for three days and the

 

            7              phone has been busy.  I want to know these

 

            8              specs are not the regular type of specs that

 

            9              have been done with the City of Scranton,

 

           10              okay, and it makes me wonder and, actually,

 

           11              it makes one wonder if it's not tainted in

 

           12              some way, all right, so can you possibly

 

           13              look into that for me because I can't get

 

           14              anywhere with it, okay, and it's important.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Just so I'm clear on

 

           16              what you are asking, you would like to know

 

           17              what the specifications are for them?

 

           18                      MR. QUINN:  Yes, who prepared them.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Okay.

 

           20                      MR. QUINN: I'd appreciate that,

 

           21              because the panel, I understand, didn't --

 

           22              the three panel members that were informed

 

           23              by Mr. Doherty did not prepare them.  The

 

           24              other thing is this here, with Comcast

 

           25              contract expiring December 31, 2009, and the

 

 

 

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            1              mayor looking out for proposals.  Now, I

 

            2              think I would recommend to city council on

 

            3              behalf of the people in this city who are

 

            4              low income and make ends hard to meet, okay,

 

            5              that maybe we should ask for another cable

 

            6              industry to come into Scranton for a bid,

 

            7              okay?  Because what you do, again, you are

 

            8              tainting, if you only use one without

 

            9              another bid you are tainting it, okay?  It's

 

           10              like you are making the specifications up

 

           11              for that one contract, so we support the

 

           12              fact that there should be two cable

 

           13              companies at least asked to come in here and

 

           14              via for this contract.

 

           15                      The other thing the fact that House

 

           16              Bill 1279 which I spoke about the

 

           17              elimination of school property tax, no one I

 

           18              understand on the council collectively sent

 

           19              a letter to support this, and what it

 

           20              actually would mean is that we are going to

 

           21              not have to pay school property taxes,

 

           22              58 percent of your bill now is school

 

           23              property taxes.  This have a large I want so

 

           24              say amount of indebtedness and they may have

 

           25              to pay that off and that's going to be

 

 

 

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            1              erased, okay?  So look into this bill,

 

            2              please, and do something.  None of our

 

            3              representatives here in the northeast are

 

            4              doing anything, it reminds me of a joke a

 

            5              person saying, "Where would you want to go

 

            6              if the end of the world was coming?"

 

            7                      And the guy said, "Scranton, Pa."

 

            8                      And he said, "Why?"

 

            9                      "Because that's the last place to

 

           10              know about it."

 

           11                      So, it's sort of -- it's true, too,

 

           12              in fact.  Mrs. Gatelli, I asked you in

 

           13              October for information after it was put on

 

           14              the agenda about two ordinances which used

 

           15              2004 approved OEC -- CDBG funds, but they

 

           16              were approved by council, but it was never

 

           17              executed and that money was made around 2004

 

           18              and they used it for a program in 2007, all

 

           19              right?  And also the surplus UDAG funds.  I

 

           20              see the mayor is using more money again for

 

           21              it.  Actually, it's a little nest egg he has

 

           22              and I would like to know just how much we

 

           23              have and it should be transparent because of

 

           24              the fact that it's federal funds and we

 

           25              should know, and I shouldn't have to write a

 

 

 

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            1              letter of a Right to Know, I'm a taxpayer.

 

            2                      MS. GATELLI: Can I respond?

 

            3                      MR. QUINN: Pardon?

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: May I respond?

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Sure.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: I'll try to have that

 

            7              for you for next week.

 

            8                      MR. QUINN: Thank you very much.

 

            9              Also, I want to ask you something, okay, or

 

           10              inform you of something.  Last month there

 

           11              was a study done by the Home Builder's

 

           12              Association, National Home Builder's

 

           13              Association and Wells Fargo and you got to

 

           14              first page review of the Scranton is the

 

           15              fourth affordable area in the city in the

 

           16              nation to have affordable housing and I

 

           17              looked into it and I called HUD and I guess

 

           18              just sort of how could that be?  And I asked

 

           19              him the median income, the median income

 

           20              used, the one study was $52,000 and the HUD

 

           21              representative, whose name I will not note,

 

           22              the fact that he said that that median

 

           23              income takes -- one moment to finish my

 

           24              train of thought?  That median takes

 

           25              communities outside of the City of Scranton

 

 

 

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            1              like Abington and Moscow, and it shouldn't,

 

            2              because we are -- we are entitled to a

 

            3              program here and we are the ones who should

 

            4              be, you know, looked at for median income.

 

            5              The difference between the median as the

 

            6              census has us and what HUD has us $22,550.

 

            7              That's a big difference.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF: I did read your e-mail

 

            9              to that effect.

 

           10                      MR. QUINN:  Yeah, but if somebody

 

           11              don't address that a lot of people are going

 

           12              to be suffering in Scranton because we do

 

           13              not have -- the poor should get more money

 

           14              and they're not.

 

           15                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.

 

           16                      MR. QUINN:  Okay, thank you.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.

 

           18              Les Spindler.

 

           19                      MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council,

 

           20              Les Spindler.  Mr. McGoff, I want to thank

 

           21              you for giving us our five minutes back, I

 

           22              think that will help with the decorum.  May

 

           23              I approach council, please?

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Sure.  Yes.

 

           25                      MR. SPINDLER: What I just passed out

 

 

 

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            1              is a decision by the United States Supreme

 

            2              Court 1963 about freedom of speech.  I have

 

            3              it highlighted on page one, I'm not going to

 

            4              read the whole thing because it will take up

 

            5              most of my five minutes, but these two

 

            6              sentences are all we need to hear, "The

 

            7              Fourteenth Amendment does not permit a state

 

            8              to make criminal the peaceful expression of

 

            9              unpopular views.  A function of free speech

 

           10              under our system of government is to invite

 

           11              dispute."

 

           12                      So, you may not like what people say

 

           13              at this podium, but according to the Supreme

 

           14              Court you cannot do anything about it.  You

 

           15              cannot say somebody is out of order.  You

 

           16              cannot have the policeman take us out of

 

           17              here, the Supreme Court is the highest court

 

           18              in the land and they are backing up the

 

           19              United States Constitution which is the law

 

           20              of the land and there is no argument there.

 

           21              I'm not an attorney, but I can read.

 

           22                      And, Mr. McGoff, I hope you are

 

           23              going to continue to have meetings every

 

           24              week and not cancel them as your predecessor

 

           25              did like to celebrate the Fifth of July or

 

 

 

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            1              the day after Labor Day.  Now, next Monday

 

            2              is a holiday I hope we are not going to have

 

            3              next Tuesday's meeting cancelled because

 

            4              it's a day after a holiday.

 

            5                      And on that subject, at the

 

            6              December 11 meeting, Mrs. Gatelli, you said,

 

            7              and I quote, "As far back as I can remember,

 

            8              once the budget was passed council recessed

 

            9              for December."

 

           10                      Well, I guess your memory doesn't go

 

           11              back too far because when Mr. DiBileo was

 

           12              president of council between November 9,

 

           13              2004, and December 31, 2005, that's two

 

           14              budgets were passed, one meeting was

 

           15              cancelled, July 7th of '05, so that shoots

 

           16              down your theory about meetings being

 

           17              cancelled after budgets were passed.

 

           18                   Next thing, a few weeks ago a woman was

 

           19              tragically killed when she was crossing in

 

           20              he electric wheelchair and struck by a car.

 

           21              This is becoming a terrible thing.  I mean,

 

           22              there is many of these wheelchairs and last

 

           23              week another person was hit, it almost

 

           24              happened to me a few weeks ago, also, and I

 

           25              was coming up two ways -- a one-way street,

 

 

 

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            1              there was a car on my left, the chair came

 

            2              in front of the car in front of me and the

 

            3              light changed.  If I didn't look out of the

 

            4              corner of my eye and see that chair I would

 

            5              have run into that person.  I would like

 

            6              council to make a motion to have an

 

            7              ordinance to have flags on all of these

 

            8              wheelchairs.  I have seen some with flags,

 

            9              they stick up and you can see the flags

 

           10              sticking up in the air, that's for the

 

           11              safety of the person in the chair and I

 

           12              think it's a good idea.

 

           13                      The next thing, on the 11:00 news

 

           14              Saturday on Channel 16, I was outraged, they

 

           15              spoke to Mayor Doherty coming out of the

 

           16              Fenstermacher funeral.  First of all, let me

 

           17              say, I was born and raised in the Hill

 

           18              Section just up from where the

 

           19              Fesntermachers lived and my dad had a

 

           20              grocery store right on the corner of Monroe

 

           21              and Ash, the Fenstermachers were customers

 

           22              of our store and I also knew Captain

 

           23              Robeson.  Mayor Doherty came out and said on

 

           24              television that, "We were here to celebrate

 

           25              the lives of these people, now let's put it

 

 

 

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            1              behind us and celebrate our city going

 

            2              forward."

 

            3                      I felt like throwing something

 

            4              throughout television.  This man uses a

 

            5              terrible tragedy to push his own political

 

            6              agenda, get his face on TV and say we should

 

            7              celebrate the city after three people were

 

            8              buried last week in the tragedy.  This man

 

            9              is despicable.  He is the lowest form of

 

           10              dirt on this earth and I was totally

 

           11              outraged by that saying.  He is just -- I'm

 

           12              too mad to continue.  He is just beyond

 

           13              belief.  Thank you.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Spindler.

 

           15              Reverend Simmons.

 

           16                      MS. SIMMONS:  Good evening, Council,

 

           17              members and youth council, I am Reverend

 

           18              Kathryn Simmons, president of

 

           19              Florence-Midtown Crime Watch.  I came here

 

           20              tonight to talk to you about several things,

 

           21              but as always something always takes

 

           22              precedent.  Let me begin by saying to you

 

           23              that Florence-Midtown Crime Watch in the

 

           24              month of May for the last several years has

 

           25              held a dinner to honor our police department

 

 

 

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            1              or fire department, our sheriff's office,

 

            2              going right on down, people who work out at

 

            3              the prison, we are not supported by anyone.

 

            4              People tell us what a wonderful thing this

 

            5              is that we do, but they keep their checkbook

 

            6              closed and so that begins.  So when I come

 

            7              here tonight to talk about an incident that

 

            8              took place in this city on Ash Street the

 

            9              week before last I'm going to say it out

 

           10              loud, and I don't care who gets angry, but

 

           11              I'm going to tell you the way that it is.  I

 

           12              know everyone is well aware of what

 

           13              transpired on Ash Street, but I hope and

 

           14              pray that all of those within hearing

 

           15              distance will understand what it is I truly

 

           16              am trying to say.  A man of heroic

 

           17              leadership took the realms that morning and

 

           18              decided to not only exhibit a spiritual

 

           19              miracle on that street, but also the true

 

           20              love of his fellow firefighters.  Those of

 

           21              us who scream and carry on through the years

 

           22              that the city does not have the income to

 

           23              give these angles of life a much needed

 

           24              raise in their paycheck were witness that

 

           25              day to how quickly these men and woman can

 

 

 

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            1              lose their lives for those of us who ever

 

            2              them so very little.  When a call is made to

 

            3              the fire department or even the police

 

            4              department, no one who takes those calls

 

            5              asks, what religious sect are you?  What

 

            6              ethnic background are you?  They don't even

 

            7              ask are illegal or illegal immigrant.  These

 

            8              men and woman rush and do what they can to

 

            9              help save lives and property.  In some

 

           10              instances they even cross the line

 

           11              themselves to aid the victim together to the

 

           12              very steps of heaven.

 

           13                      I watched all week as the leadership

 

           14              of this city, our mayor, took the headway

 

           15              and helped a grieving community build itself

 

           16              back up.  I was at Covenant Presbyterian

 

           17              Church and I heard fully what was said that

 

           18              day.  Our mayor has no reason to hide his

 

           19              face.  I don't always agree with him on

 

           20              everything that he says, but I'm proud to

 

           21              say that he did take the help many this time

 

           22              and try to pull our people together.

 

           23                      I am now asking in the name of

 

           24              Captain James Robeson to give these workers

 

           25              that which they truly earn and deserve.  You

 

 

 

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            1              will be remembered for it long after your

 

            2              terms are ended.  Council members, yes, you

 

            3              can again tell me that you can't vote the

 

            4              raises in, but you can stand with the mayor

 

            5              as he tells the citizens of Scranton that

 

            6              our heroes are in need of and deserving of

 

            7              what they have asked for.  Let this man's

 

            8              death not be in vain.  Let him look down

 

            9              from the heaven and say, "Open the gate, I

 

           10              have done my job."

 

           11                      And I hope that before this month is

 

           12              out you will be inviting the family here to

 

           13              give them some kind of proclamation for the

 

           14              heroic actions that this man took that day.

 

           15              Thank you.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Reverend

 

           17              Simmons.  Sam Patilla.

 

           18                      MR. PATILLA: Sam Patilla, Scranton

 

           19              homeowner and Scranton taxpayer,

 

           20              businessman.  First, I'd like to make a

 

           21              comment in regard to the new rules.  I'm all

 

           22              for rules, but in light of the fact that the

 

           23              current council president, Mrs. Gatelli,

 

           24              Mrs. Fanucci, and the council solicitor will

 

           25              be subpoenaed for not only a local trial,

 

 

 

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            1              but the ensuing federal trial as well, I

 

            2              hope that when I seek recourse from Mrs.

 

            3              Evans and Mr. McGoff -- excuse me,

 

            4              Mr. Courtright, that that attempt isn't

 

            5              stifled because if it is will be construed

 

            6              as an attempt to not only stifle my freedom

 

            7              of speech, but my rights as an Afro-American

 

            8              and my rights as a disabled American, so

 

            9              when I come here anything that I have to say

 

           10              will be directed either directly to Miss

 

           11              Evans or directly to Mr. Courtright and, as

 

           12              I said before, if I'm planning along the

 

           13              rules and anything is done to squash that,

 

           14              the lawsuits will be filed.

 

           15                      Secondly, in regards to Scranton

 

           16              Today, Doherty used Channel 61 and Scranton

 

           17              Today to get to where he is and now he wants

 

           18              to squash that because they won't cow-toe to

 

           19              his demands.  Without Scranton Today we

 

           20              don't need a Channel 61.  Without Channel 61

 

           21              we don't need Comcast, so unless Comcast

 

           22              provides Scranton Today with the equipment

 

           23              and/or room or a station in which they can

 

           24              continue to provide the paying subscribers

 

           25              of Comcast with the brilliant services that

 

 

 

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            1              they have over the years in the course of

 

            2              time that I have been in this city, you

 

            3              know, I feel that we should all just get rid

 

            4              of Comcast, stop paying, you know.  Doherty

 

            5              wants to call the shots with Comcast, let

 

            6              him pick up our tab.  I think to follow suit

 

            7              to what Mr. Ozzie said here I think an open

 

            8              bid should be pursued and the simple fact

 

            9              that without competition you have a

 

           10              monopoly, a monopoly.  This is America.  It

 

           11              was built on competition, so we should have

 

           12              Comcast as well as any other capable

 

           13              operator that wants to do business within

 

           14              this city.  We shouldn't be single or

 

           15              limited to anything because it's our money.

 

           16                   Secondly, Mrs. Evans, I really need

 

           17              your help on this one, it concerns the

 

           18              appraisals.  Considering the downward spiral

 

           19              of the housing industry which will no doubt

 

           20              about it continue for at least two more

 

           21              years, I think that if the appraisals that

 

           22              were done on your homes doesn't reflect that

 

           23              downward spiral, somebody should look into a

 

           24              possible violation of the RICCO Act and

 

           25              other federal laws mandating those

 

 

 

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            1              appraisals, because if those appraisals

 

            2              don't reflect the current market trend it

 

            3              means somebody is overpricing our homes to

 

            4              get tax money out of us knowing full well

 

            5              that if we were to go to sell that home we

 

            6              are not going to get that type of money and

 

            7              that's cooked, it's crooked as it comes.

 

            8                   Thirdly, and just so to reiterate on

 

            9              this rules thing, I have no problems with

 

           10              rules, all right, I served five years in the

 

           11              United States Marine Corp so that the people

 

           12              in this country did have the rights that

 

           13              they now are afforded and no one, no one has

 

           14              a right to try to deny me something that I

 

           15              was willing to give my life for and, as

 

           16              such, just like the current litigation

 

           17              that's ongoing federal charges will be

 

           18              filed.  They won't be filed in Scranton, so

 

           19              they wouldn't be any roadblocks, they will

 

           20              be filed in an area where justice prevails.

 

           21              That's all I have to say.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Patilla.

 

           23              Peter Anania.  Did I get the pronunciation

 

           24              right?

 

           25                      MR. ANANIA: Yeah, you did, actually.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you very much for

 

            2              your help.

 

            3                      MR. ANANIA: Guys, real broad strokes

 

            4              really fast, what I'm interested in doing is

 

            5              buying -

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Would you please just

 

            7              state your name.

 

            8                      MR. ANANIA:  Oh, sure.  It's Peter

 

            9              Anania, 613 Wheeler Avenue.  I'm interested

 

           10              in buying Scranton.com, the URL that the

 

           11              city holds, I don't know if this is the

 

           12              appropriate forum for that or not, so before

 

           13              I go any further I just need you to let me

 

           14              know in response whether this is the correct

 

           15              forum for that proposal?

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Are you asking us if --

 

           17                      MR. ANANIA: Yeah, I'm asking you if

 

           18              this is the correct forum to make that

 

           19              proposal?

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: To purchase a city

 

           21              property?

 

           22                      MR. ANANIA: The Scranton.com URL

 

           23              which is property, yes.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: I would not -- I would

 

           25              say that this is the not the proper forum.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. ANANIA: Okay.  Could you direct

 

            2              me to where I might be able to do that?

 

            3                      MR. MCGOFF: I would suggest the law

 

            4              department at city hall.

 

            5                      MR. ANANIA:  Oh, okay, excellent.

 

            6              Excellent.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Which I would -- there

 

            8              should be somebody there from 8 to 4?

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 8:30 to 4:00.

 

           10                      MR. ANANIA: Excellent.  Thank you.

 

           11              That's all I needed.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  David

 

           13              Dobson.

 

           14                      MR. DOBSON: Dave Dobson.  Member of

 

           15              the Scranton Taxpayers and also a resident

 

           16              of Scranton.  Congratulations on all of the

 

           17              changes, hopefully everybody will be happy

 

           18              in their new positions.  On Channel 61 I

 

           19              feel that there should not be a change from

 

           20              Scranton Tomorrow group without a vote by

 

           21              patrons of the cable company.  The customers

 

           22              are ultimately the people that pay for this

 

           23              service, so they should also be included in

 

           24              deciding who operates this and not a

 

           25              committee or an entity or an authority.

 

 

 

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            1                   Also, extreme measures should be taken

 

            2              to prevent control of content, coloring of

 

            3              content and editing to eliminate

 

            4              controversial content.

 

            5                      Further, if any educational

 

            6              institution wants in on participation

 

            7              possibly a good suggestion would be a coop

 

            8              with Scranton Tomorrow apprenticeships with

 

            9              students to help during the production and

 

           10              it certainly would be preferable to hand all

 

           11              operations over to a nonproven entity.

 

           12              Finally, all the branches of the government

 

           13              should meet local, municipal and county and

 

           14              decide on possibly providing some better

 

           15              support to these people because they haven't

 

           16              done a bad job in the past.  They really

 

           17              haven't committed any egregious situations

 

           18              in which they have been the cause of and

 

           19              certainly I have always felt that people

 

           20              shouldn't be terminated if they haven't done

 

           21              anything wrong, if they have done their jobs

 

           22              the correct way so thank you and have a good

 

           23              night.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Dobson.

 

           25              There is no one else on the list.  Are there

 

 

 

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            1              any other additional speakers?

 

            2                      MR. DAVIS:  Salaam aleikum, Happy

 

            3              New Year.  This if for all you kids out

 

            4              there that are ready to celebrate Martin

 

            5              Luther King holiday this week coming.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  Mr. Davis?

 

            7                      MR. DAVIS: Yes.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Would you please stat

 

            9              your name for the record?

 

           10                      MR. DAVIS: Oh, my names is Jim

 

           11              Davis, excuse me.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: That's fine.

 

           13                      MR. DAVIS: I stand corrected, and

 

           14              there is lot of things that have gone on in

 

           15              this city that you may never hear about, the

 

           16              fact that there were three nonwhite

 

           17              communities at one time in this community,

 

           18              in this city, and they have all been

 

           19              destroyed surrepticiously very -- by it was

 

           20              done by the administration.  The first one I

 

           21              find -- I found was on Adams Avenue.  It was

 

           22              a nonwhite community that was prospering.

 

           23              There were slums there, yes, but they

 

           24              weren't all slums, but it was a way of

 

           25              getting rid of a bad eyesight, a blighted

 

 

 

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            1              area is what they called it.  This the first

 

            2              time I heard about a blighted area.  Blights

 

            3              have been living there all these years and

 

            4              it was never blighted, suddenly it was a

 

            5              good term.  Now, we hear about Valley -- or

 

            6              Skyview, what are you going to do with this

 

            7              one?  You have already taken away Washington

 

            8              West, you called that blighted, you said it

 

            9              was unfit so, therefore, you moved everybody

 

           10              out.  This is another for the low, low and

 

           11              moderate incomes that are being moved out of

 

           12              the city.  What do you want to do?  Are you

 

           13              going to ever give equal redress to the

 

           14              problems of minorities in this city and if

 

           15              you are when are you going to start?

 

           16                      I don't see anybody saying anything

 

           17              about central city whatsoever and yet all of

 

           18              this housing sits there empty, vacant, and

 

           19              there are people crying for homes.  The

 

           20              housing problem in Scranton is horrible for

 

           21              nonwhites.  Check it out.  You will see that

 

           22              I'm telling you the truth, but we don't have

 

           23              a lot of nonwhites in jobs, we don't have a

 

           24              lot of nonwhites in anything here.  They are

 

           25              sort of like a persona non grata you don't

 

 

 

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            1              want them seen, you don't want them present.

 

            2              As a matter of fact, you can go to the high

 

            3              schools and stuff like this and find the

 

            4              newspaper reports, these kids are doing

 

            5              well.  This is a -- this is the speakers,

 

            6              these are the debaters, these are this,

 

            7              these are the that.  You won't see any

 

            8              minorities pass through.  I don't understand

 

            9              how this school, how this -- how this system

 

           10              came to be.  I came through this system, I

 

           11              graduated from Tech High School, I know that

 

           12              we had equal representation in a lot of

 

           13              things, in the band and everything else,

 

           14              what happened?  Our kids are being smashed

 

           15              under by a hand that I cannot see, but I

 

           16              wish that you would help me, I really do,

 

           17              because there is something going on here

 

           18              that is not kosher, it's not good and it

 

           19              make our kids angry at the very site of

 

           20              going to school, going to a doctor's office,

 

           21              coming home, you are making a ghetto from

 

           22              the inside, like, you are taking down the

 

           23              house, taking down all of the housing and I

 

           24              don't know what you are going to do with

 

           25              Skyview, I remember that one as being built,

 

 

 

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            1              now it's a convenient it's blighted, are you

 

            2              going to tear that down like you did down

 

            3              here in Washington Avenue?  Oh, you got a

 

            4              new plan for it?  When are we going to hear

 

            5              about this plan.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF:  If you had -- the

 

            7              legislation that's before us is to make

 

            8              improvements, it's a grant to make

 

            9              improvements at Skyview.

 

           10                      MR. DAVIS:  Well, this is what they

 

           11              said when they -- okay, maybe I'm wrong

 

           12              then.  Going on Washington Avenue,

 

           13              Washington apartments, that was to make it

 

           14              better, wasn't it?  Wasn't it the same?

 

           15              Wasn't it the same wording?

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I'm not -- all I can

 

           17              speak to right now is what is in front of

 

           18              me.

 

           19                      MR. DAVIS: You they are all HUD

 

           20              housing.  They all got funned by HUD.  DCED,

 

           21              through HUD, so I don't understand.  These

 

           22              are homes that are not supposed to be for

 

           23              everybody, but they are supposed to be for a

 

           24              certain group of people and how are you

 

           25              going to move these people out and redo

 

 

 

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            1              their homes?  Where are you going to move

 

            2              them to?  You got to start doing something

 

            3              right.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mr. Davis.

 

            5                      MS. KNIGHT:  Good evening, Council.

 

            6              My name is Geraldine Knight, K-N-I-G-H-T,

 

            7              and I watched the swearing in of your

 

            8              people, I watched this show for two and a

 

            9              half years and you have aggravated the

 

           10              living daylights out of me.  First of all, I

 

           11              would like to congratulate Mr. Courtright,

 

           12              Mrs. Evans, on your new positions of this

 

           13              council.  I know you will both do an

 

           14              excellent job.  One of who has received,

 

           15              Mrs. Evans' job, Mrs. Fanucci, since she is

 

           16              not here tonight for some unGoden reason and

 

           17              the other two councils say no one needs to

 

           18              have an education to do a job.  We all know

 

           19              that Mr. Fanucci will really be sewn to

 

           20              Mr. Doherty hip.  Judy, you said in the year

 

           21              '07 to a woman that stood at this stand

 

           22              wearing and bringing into council an item of

 

           23              religion, she did not talk about -- she did

 

           24              talk about her faith and our Lord.

 

           25              Mr. McGoff, at your swearing in day said he

 

 

 

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            1              wanted his pastor to do a benediction of

 

            2              this council.  Your pastor left, a small

 

            3              man, a smart man, he knew it's not a good

 

            4              thing to mix church and government.

 

            5                      Please do not take this wrong that I

 

            6              am against the Catholic church or any

 

            7              church, I am not.  Please do not use these

 

            8              people, Scranton people.  A big favor of all

 

            9              three of you, all in a line except Fanucci,

 

           10              I wish you would think first when you open

 

           11              your mouth.  To receive the bread of Christ

 

           12              that you are deserving of it for you have

 

           13              lied, underhanded everything that was

 

           14              approached to you by a woman standing there,

 

           15              Mrs. Evans, last year gave up her time to do

 

           16              an excellent job of a budget, but council

 

           17              for whom you are to be working for are us,

 

           18              not for yourself, for us, that's what you

 

           19              are there for.

 

           20                      I would also like to add, you all

 

           21              talk about your children and grandchildren

 

           22              and your families and how important they

 

           23              mean to all three of you because neither

 

           24              does Mrs. Evans or Mr. Courtright ever bring

 

           25              them up, but you three seem to do it very

 

 

 

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            1              much, so I'm wondering when you open your

 

            2              mouth again what kind of a legislation are

 

            3              you leaving for your own family and your own

 

            4              generation to come in this City of Scranton.

 

            5              That's all I have to say.  And, by the way,

 

            6              Doug, I'm not too proud of the way you --

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, you are

 

            8              allowed to address council.

 

            9                      MS. KNIGHT:  Oh, I'm not allowed to

 

           10              address junior council?

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: No.

 

           12                      MS. KNIGHT: Okay.  Thank you.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF:  Thank you, Mrs. Knight.

 

           14                      MS. KNIGHT: You are welcome, my

 

           15              pleasure.  And you can all smile up there,

 

           16              too.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me, thank you.

 

           18                      MS. KNIGHT: Yeah, but your smiles

 

           19              are uncalled for.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Excuse me.

 

           21                      MS. KNIGHT: Excuse me.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: You had your time to

 

           23              speak.  Thank you.

 

           24                      MS. KNIGHT: Thank you.

 

           25                      MS. SCHUMACHER:  Good evening, Marie

 

 

 

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            1              Schumacher, citizen and member of the

 

            2              Taxpayers' Association.  I feel a little bit

 

            3              weird tonight because I think we have had a

 

            4              role reversal.  Instead of citizens and

 

            5              taxpayers coming to petition council for

 

            6              answers to questions about their government

 

            7              or to seek help, we are now told where to go

 

            8              -- write Right to Know letters and then

 

            9              presumably come back here and make comment

 

           10              on what we find and we are being relegated

 

           11              to comment only on government business, so

 

           12              tonight instead of asking questions I will

 

           13              make a number of comments.

 

           14                      I think it's unfortunate that we

 

           15              don't -- that we have at large election of

 

           16              council people because for too long there

 

           17              has been no park parody, all the money

 

           18              that's being poured into Nay Aug Park and

 

           19              Weston Field and now maybe Connell Park, I

 

           20              don't know what's going on, I haven't been

 

           21              back there, but certainly it's

 

           22              disproportionate to both the utilization and

 

           23              the citizens and the taxpayers that surround

 

           24              those parks.

 

           25                      I would like to remind you that I

 

 

 

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            1              believe there are ordinances required for

 

            2              sidewalks in new development, we have had

 

            3              two accidents in downtown within the last

 

            4              several weeks of people in the vehicles as

 

            5              has been referred to earlier, but in the

 

            6              neighborhoods we also need sidewalks.  I

 

            7              walk frequently with a disabled person on

 

            8              Seymour Avenue, there are no sidewalks on a

 

            9              lot of the properties on Seymour Avenue,

 

           10              East Mountain Road since it's been

 

           11              reconstructed with the sewer water project

 

           12              has become a thoroughfare for people

 

           13              diverting up to Moscow, so they come off 81

 

           14              or up through town and they come up East

 

           15              Mountain Road speeding and then they go

 

           16              across Seymour Avenue and, conversely, they

 

           17              come down 307 and turn in and we are almost

 

           18              killed by a car doing that one day that was

 

           19              speeding.

 

           20                      The sidewalks if they exist are in

 

           21              deplorable condition, so we are only putting

 

           22              off the inevitable.  We are not being fair

 

           23              to handicapped persons forcing them out to

 

           24              in the streets where they are at risk and a

 

           25              perfect time to install sidewalks is when

 

 

 

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            1              there are new builds, yet the ordinance that

 

            2              was before this body, I know none of you, I

 

            3              don't believe any of you were on in the

 

            4              mid90's was rejected for some reason.  I,

 

            5              again, suggest you dust off that ordinance

 

            6              and pass it.  There still has been no

 

            7              ordinance.  I submitted two from other

 

            8              municipalities for maintenance of in and

 

            9              above-ground swimming pools.  The only

 

           10              ordinance this city has with respect to

 

           11              building such recreational items and once

 

           12              they are built there is no requirement to

 

           13              keep the pumps running or to put chemicals

 

           14              in and we need that.

 

           15                      I also think an ordinance should be

 

           16              drafted regarding who administers the public

 

           17              access television station.  The way the

 

           18              franchise agreement is written it is all

 

           19              authority resides in one individual, the

 

           20              mayor.  I think that's wrong.  I think the

 

           21              city council should have a role in that, and

 

           22              I think you should draft some legislation

 

           23              and you should have an ordinance on how the

 

           24              entity that runs those stations, the public

 

           25              access stations, are selected and approved.

 

 

 

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            1              And I, again, would echo that I think

 

            2              Scranton Tomorrow is doing certainly an

 

            3              adequate if not better than adequate job.

 

            4                      I would observe that we need some

 

            5              line painting within the city.  It always

 

            6              astounds me that we have adequate green

 

            7              paint for the drunken celebration called the

 

            8              St. Patrick's Day parade, but we don't seem

 

            9              to have any money to paint the lines on the

 

           10              streets.  The crosswalks are not in good

 

           11              shape, Lackawanna Avenue the cross-hatched

 

           12              island that was created for the construction

 

           13              of the Southern Union building is still

 

           14              there, there is no warning that the

 

           15              500-block of Lackawanna County is restricted

 

           16              to one way, one lane each way until you get

 

           17              upon it.  It's terrible down in front by the

 

           18              Lackawanna bridge entrance to the mall as

 

           19              has been stated many, many times.  A little

 

           20              bit of paint would go a long way.  Thank

 

           21              you.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs.

 

           23              Schumacher.  Any other speakers?  Mrs.

 

           24              Krake?

 

           25                      MS. KRAKE: Good evening, Council.

 

 

 

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            1              My name is Nancy Krake, and I'd just like to

 

            2              take a moment to bask in the return of the

 

            3              five minutes before council votes on agenda

 

            4              items.  It feels so good, that little bit of

 

            5              freedom of speech back, it's wonderful.

 

            6                      I, too, would like to urge everyone

 

            7              to press for Scranton Today to remain the

 

            8              entity that runs Channel 61.  Their unbiased

 

            9              coverage despite political pressures that

 

           10              I'm sure we'll never even be aware of.  They

 

           11              have provided us with televised council

 

           12              meetings as they unfold and live.  There is

 

           13              no editing.  This is a very difficult job to

 

           14              do and they do it because of their

 

           15              dedication and it's something that they

 

           16              believe in.  It is also probably at this

 

           17              point the greatest tool we have for holding

 

           18              the man and city council accountable.  It's

 

           19              something that we cannot lose by giving it

 

           20              to someone that we know nothing about it.

 

           21                      I would also like to take a moment

 

           22              tonight to mention a council person,

 

           23              Mrs. Evans, and based on her record of

 

           24              nonwaiving representation of all of the

 

           25              citizens of Scranton, based on her voting

 

 

 

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            1              record, her three city budgets that

 

            2              eliminated tax increases, lowered taxes and

 

            3              eliminated any need for borrowing, I would

 

            4              like to ask her this evening and every night

 

            5              that I come to speak at council, you do not

 

            6              have to answer, by the way, Mrs. Evans, if

 

            7              you would please consider running for mayor

 

            8              of our city, the Mayor of Scranton.  Thank

 

            9              you.

 

           10                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you, Mrs. Krake.

 

           12                      MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening, Nelson

 

           13              Ancherani, resident and taxpayer, city

 

           14              employee and financial secretary of the FOP

 

           15              exercising my First Amendment Rights.  I

 

           16              want to say something about the five minute

 

           17              speaker time.  It seems very convenient now

 

           18              that budget time is passed and the 35

 

           19              million parking authority loan was passed

 

           20              that speaker time is returned to five

 

           21              minutes per person and back again to

 

           22              audience participation before votes are

 

           23              taken.  Mr. McGoff, I would hope that that

 

           24              wasn't why you proposed all the speaker's

 

           25              time changes over the last year.  You all

 

 

 

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            1              had a nice long month, a nice month-long

 

            2              vacation since December 11, '07.  Prior to

 

            3              having your vacation a record $85 million

 

            4              2008 city budget was passed by a 3 to 2

 

            5              vote.  Just because the budget was passed

 

            6              last year I hope that the three of you, Mrs.

 

            7              Fanucci, Mrs. Gatelli and Mr. McGoff don't

 

            8              think that the taxpayers will forget about

 

            9              it.  In fact, you three had a chance to vote

 

           10              for a budget that would have saved money for

 

           11              the taxpayers and equaled the playing field

 

           12              between the privileged, new hires in the

 

           13              city along with the favorite people who

 

           14              received raises as opposed to the union

 

           15              workers who have been disrespected and

 

           16              treated unfairly and differently than the

 

           17              favorite.  It would have been fair to the

 

           18              union workers if no one was treated

 

           19              specially.  Therefore, no one would have had

 

           20              a complaint.  You three showed where you

 

           21              stand, everyone knows that now.

 

           22                      The PA Economy League sat silently

 

           23              while $13,000 raises were given to the

 

           24              police and fire chiefs.  PEL sat silently

 

           25              when 15 million in raises and new hires were

 

 

 

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            1              approved by the last six councils.  PEL sits

 

            2              quietly when tons of money is spent on

 

            3              high-priced attorneys to fight the unions.

 

            4              PEL sits silently while the city buries

 

            5              itself in approximately 400 million

 

            6              long-term debt, but yet when it comes to the

 

            7              unions there is no more silence on their

 

            8              part.  In fact, if PEL doesn't kneel to this

 

            9              mayor's wishes they will find themselves in

 

           10              the unemployed lines.  PEL does not want the

 

           11              distressed label lifted from the city

 

           12              because their cash gets milk and they are in

 

           13              the unemployed lines.

 

           14                      This mornings' paper dribble written

 

           15              by Stacy Brown says, and I quote, "As

 

           16              president, Mr. McGoff said he would do more

 

           17              homework on legislation and have more

 

           18              contact with the administration."

 

           19                      This concerns me.  Prior to that

 

           20              quote I was under the belief that all

 

           21              legislation would have had homework done on

 

           22              it prior to all legislation being voted on.

 

           23              This concern me as it should all taxpayers

 

           24              in the City of Scranton.  Was homework done

 

           25              on this budget by anyone other than

 

 

 

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            1              Mrs. Evans or did a giant rubber-stamp get

 

            2              the nod?

 

            3                      Another piece of legislation that is

 

            4              very concerning is the legislation that will

 

            5              add thousands to people who won't be able to

 

            6              pay their taxes, that will be forfeiting

 

            7              their homes.  Was their homework done on

 

            8              that legislation or did it get the big

 

            9              rubber stamp?  The same with the legislation

 

           10              for the $35 million loan for the parking

 

           11              authority.  Same comment.  This concerns me

 

           12              now because I feel that the big rubber-stamp

 

           13              was used on all of the controversial

 

           14              legislation that has been passed in the past

 

           15              six years.  Was any homework done before

 

           16              legislation was voted on?  This is a concern

 

           17              and it's a big concern.

 

           18                      The mayor was happy that two new

 

           19              businesses opened in the city, he was very

 

           20              well-pleased, but we forgot about the other

 

           21              side of the coin.  There was nothing in the

 

           22              slimes on the other side of the coin either.

 

           23              Hoban business left, 74 years down the

 

           24              tubes.  Quint's left, 90 years down the

 

           25              tubes.  Deemers left, 70 years.  Gianetti,

 

 

 

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            1              50 years and Leonard's, 140 years.  That's

 

            2              424 years down the tubes, but we got two new

 

            3              businesses.  A couple more, but that sure

 

            4              does not equal 424 years.

 

            5                      I see the chairmanship of some of

 

            6              the committees has changed.  Ms. Evans is

 

            7              now chairman of public works committee, Ms.

 

            8              Gatelli is now chairman of the finance

 

            9              committee.  I have a question for Ms. Evans,

 

           10              is this change agreeable to you or were you

 

           11              opposed to it?

 

           12                      MS. EVANS: This change was agreeable

 

           13              to me.  I declined the chairmanship of the

 

           14              finance committee.

 

           15                      MR. ANCHERANI: Okay.  Ms. Gatelli,

 

           16              if you would?

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  I took it because no

 

           18              one else wanted it.  I really didn't want it

 

           19              either.  I will be consulting Mr. Renda with

 

           20              any of the questions that you have.

 

           21                      MR. ANCHERANI: A big responsibility.

 

           22              Budget time will be here in 12 months, 11

 

           23              /PHOBTS.

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you,

 

           25              Mr. Ancherani.  Anyone else?

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GARVEY: 5-A. Motions.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Garvey, before we

 

            3              go to 5-A motions, it's kind of unique

 

            4              situation because there are only three

 

            5              members present this evening if one of us

 

            6              were to leave, walk out the door, there

 

            7              would not be a quorum and we could not

 

            8              conduct business.  At this time, I'm going

 

            9              to request that we take a very brief recess,

 

           10              two minutes recess, so that -- we will

 

           11              return in two minutes.  Thank you very much.

 

           12                      (Brief recess taken.)

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: 5-A. Motions.  Mrs.

 

           14              Evans.

 

           15                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  Good evening,

 

           16              ladies and gentlemen.  I'm very happy to be

 

           17              back in session following our long respite,

 

           18              and before I go on I want to state

 

           19              unequivocally in response to many of the

 

           20              speaker's comments this evening that I, too,

 

           21              stand strongly behind Scranton Today in the

 

           22              operation of Channel 61.  I believe they

 

           23              have done an unparalleled job of providing

 

           24              live uncensored access to all government

 

           25              meetings, and this is one of the most

 

 

 

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            1              important assets to our citizenry and long

 

            2              may it stand.

 

            3                      I spoke with Representative Shimkus

 

            4              in the last week to obtain an update on the

 

            5              separation of tax bills within the City of

 

            6              Scranton.  Representative Shimkus stated

 

            7              that an amendment was approved by the

 

            8              appropriate attorneys which he hopes to

 

            9              attach to forthcoming property tax

 

           10              legislation.  He further indicated that

 

           11              property tax legislation will come before

 

           12              the House of Representatives in February or

 

           13              March of 2008.  However, countless

 

           14              amendments have been proposed so he feels

 

           15              the likelihood of his amendment achieving

 

           16              success is minimal.

 

           17                      On the other hand, I try to remain

 

           18              optimistic.  Since this amendment applies

 

           19              solely to Scranton, I cannot fathom

 

           20              objections by other state representatives.

 

           21              It would serve to separate school district

 

           22              taxes from city taxes so that homeowners

 

           23              could pay city taxes and, therefore, prevent

 

           24              the loss of their homes to delinquent tax

 

           25              collections.  I will reach out to

 

 

 

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            1              Representative Shimkus again in late

 

            2              February for an update.

 

            3                      Recently, I noted the absent of all

 

            4              equipment from the 500 block of Lackawanna

 

            5              Avenue.  I also noticed signs posted on one

 

            6              building located next to the AFA gallery

 

            7              which states, "Danger, Asbestos."

 

            8                      Because of the serious health and

 

            9              safety risks posed by the streetscape

 

           10              project, I requested an update from

 

           11              Mrs. Aebli, OECD director, and Mr. Brazil,

 

           12              DPW director and I hope to have a report for

 

           13              next week's meeting.

 

           14                      Mr. McGoff, as former chair of the

 

           15              DPW committee you were, fortunately, a

 

           16              member of the committee that planned for

 

           17              snow emergencies and snow removal, and since

 

           18              inclement weather is forecasted in the near

 

           19              future evidently we will see many examples

 

           20              of it over the next two months, I wonder if

 

           21              you would update us regarding any possible

 

           22              new procedures that would have been

 

           23              developed by that committee?

 

           24                      MR. MCGOFF: Oh, you want me to do it

 

           25              now?

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS: Yes, please.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: The only thing that the

 

            3              committees had really talked about, we did

 

            4              discuss the idea of odd/even parking, it was

 

            5              seen to be somewhat unfeasible given the

 

            6              number of cars parked on streets throughout

 

            7              the city and especially in some areas where

 

            8              the streets were rather narrow and couldn't

 

            9              handle the number of cars.

 

           10                      We talked about some snow emergency

 

           11              routes.  The signage for the snow emergency

 

           12              routes would have been, and I don't have the

 

           13              number with me, I was thinking it was

 

           14              somewhere like 20 to $25,000 to provide the

 

           15              signage.  I know Mr. Hayes has said that

 

           16              what they were going to try and do was to

 

           17              designate existent bus routes or some of the

 

           18              existent bus routes as snow emergency routes

 

           19              since there was still some signs, again, I

 

           20              don't have it with me, but the other thing

 

           21              that was talked about was the possibility of

 

           22              some type of not a 911 number, but a

 

           23              separate number at DPW for medical emergency

 

           24              where somebody needed something plowed sort

 

           25              of immediately, whether it was a parking

 

 

 

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            1              area so that they could get to, I think last

 

            2              time we talked about, you know, dialysis

 

            3              patients and such, and I don't know and I

 

            4              honestly do not know if that has been

 

            5              followed through on that.

 

            6                      And the last thing that I requested,

 

            7              and I know it hasn't been done, was that I

 

            8              was -- I had asked that whatever procedures

 

            9              were going to be followed, whatever the plan

 

           10              was, that that be posted on the DPW website

 

           11              so that people could access that and at

 

           12              least have an idea of the process that was

 

           13              going to take place so that it might

 

           14              forestall people calling and saying, "When

 

           15              is my street going to be plowed," or, you

 

           16              know, and to the best of my recollection

 

           17              those are the things that were discussed.

 

           18                   Now, Mr. Hayes was following through on

 

           19              some of those or was going to follow through

 

           20              on some of those, I would probably suggest,

 

           21              you know, maybe speaking with him just to

 

           22              see if there is anything that I've forgotten

 

           23              and I know that Mr. Brazil was also, you

 

           24              know, acting on some of those.

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Thank you very much.

 

 

 

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            1              Next, council recently received

 

            2              correspondence from Mr. Don King, city

 

            3              planner, which included an ordinance which

 

            4              would alter Section 30 of the zoning map to

 

            5              general institutional and general

 

            6              commercial, and so, Council, Kay, would like

 

            7              a letter sent to Mr. King asking if this

 

            8              amendment will allow a fast food business or

 

            9              a gas station, grocery store to be

 

           10              constructed next to the Scranton High School

 

           11              soccer field, and Council would request a

 

           12              written response on or before January 21,

 

           13              2008.

 

           14                      Council is also requesting written

 

           15              responses or updates from the following:

 

           16              First, Mr. David Baker with a copy to the

 

           17              chairman of the Scranton Housing Authority,

 

           18              written responses to questions presented in

 

           19              a December 13, 2008, letter of request

 

           20              regarding the $900,000 advance from the

 

           21              Scranton Housing Authority and received by

 

           22              the city.

 

           23                      Next, council requests a letter to

 

           24              Mr. Brazil, please provide a written update

 

           25              regarding Smith Place, the original request

 

 

 

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            1              was made in October 2007, and a request for

 

            2              an update was made of Mr. Seitzinger on

 

            3              December 14, 2007, with no response.

 

            4              Residents report garbage, broken trashcans,

 

            5              etcetera, remain along the court property

 

            6              and roadway.

 

            7                      And for Mr. Brazil as well, please

 

            8              provide a written update on the punch list

 

            9              at streetlights in the Tripp Park

 

           10              development after you have met with

 

           11              Mr. George Parker, and that was a second

 

           12              request for that and information.

 

           13                      And if we might also, this is

 

           14              something that I did not see earlier this

 

           15              evening, so if you could excuse me, but I

 

           16              had previously in December I believe

 

           17              requested some information from Mrs. Aebli

 

           18              and I just wanted to send a second letter on

 

           19              behalf of council to request that

 

           20              information once again, and I really realize

 

           21              that since she was new to her position she

 

           22              may well have been backed up on so many

 

           23              requests and hopefully this would serve as a

 

           24              reminder and if she could please provide

 

           25              those written responses on or before

 

 

 

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            1              January 28, 2008, and that's it.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Mrs. Gatelli.

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: I just have a few

 

            4              things.  I'm working with Don Hart from the

 

            5              Bricklayer's union and Sam Vitris in trying

 

            6              to rehabilitate the lookout on Lake Scranton

 

            7              Road, there were many people complaining

 

            8              that there is many, many people parked there

 

            9              at all times for the view and the stonework

 

           10              is deteriorating, so we are trying to work

 

           11              out an agreement, Mr. Hart said possibly

 

           12              apprentices can come and we have to work it

 

           13              out with Mr. Vitris through the DPW union,

 

           14              but that's one project that's on the burner.

 

           15                   I got my newsletter from the

 

           16              Pennsylvania League of Cities and they are

 

           17              continuing with the House Bill 2018, with

 

           18              the municipalities that have tax exempt

 

           19              properties and it is going through the

 

           20              Lebanon mayor and first vice president Bob

 

           21              Anspa and they are all supporting that

 

           22              legislation as is this council.

 

           23                      We got a letter from Linda Aebli

 

           24              regarding the firefighters' memorial that

 

           25              Roseann Novembrino had received from OECD it

 

 

 

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            1              is an eligible activity, but it is not

 

            2              eligible unless it is in a low to moderate

 

            3              income area, so it needs to go in a public

 

            4              place in a low to moderate area, so I don't

 

            5              know where we are going to put it, but it

 

            6              cannot be put at city hall because it's not

 

            7              a low to moderate area so, it has to

 

            8              probably go into a park.  I suggested

 

            9              Connell Park only because we are spending a

 

           10              lot of money up there.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: May I?

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI:  Sure.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: To give you just a brief

 

           14              update, I did speak to Mayor Doherty and

 

           15              it's possible given the nature of the events

 

           16              of the past week or two that there may be a

 

           17              complete alteration in plans.  The

 

           18              possibility exists and I think that they are

 

           19              in discussions with firefighters and others

 

           20              that that monument may be placed next to the

 

           21              Mulberry Street firehouse in the parking

 

           22              area, what's now a paking area.  If the

 

           23              legislation or the grant, whatever, is going

 

           24              to be rewritten so that it can be placed

 

           25              there.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI: Okay, I wasn't aware of

 

            2              that.  Thank you, Mr. McGoff.  The other

 

            3              thing that I'd like to do is I would like to

 

            4              make a motion that we send a letter to the

 

            5              mayor, I do agree with the speakers tonight

 

            6              about Comcast.  I don't think that they

 

            7              should be the only people that we speak to

 

            8              about a cable contract.  I don't know about

 

            9              anyone else, but I think most people would

 

           10              agree that they are way out of control with

 

           11              their prices and I can't believe that we

 

           12              have to pay that much to watch television.

 

           13              We used to watch it for free, but in any

 

           14              event, I suggest that we -- well.  I'm

 

           15              making the motion to send the mayor a letter

 

           16              to start bids from other cable companies.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All in

 

           19              favor?

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  All opposed?  The

 

           23              ayes have it.

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI:  Thank you.  Also, the

 

           25              last two contracts that went through city

 

 

 

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            1              council were 15-year contracts, I don't know

 

            2              if we will still on council when the

 

            3              contract comes up, but I don't find that

 

            4              acceptable to give someone a 15-year

 

            5              contract.  I think it's totally insane, and

 

            6              I hope that we can find someone else that

 

            7              can give us the services for a much reduced

 

            8              cost.

 

            9                      I have one more motion I'd like to

 

           10              make, and I would make a motion that we send

 

           11              the mayor a letter that it is council's

 

           12              desire, and I know we have said it before,

 

           13              but let's put it in a motion and send him a

 

           14              letter that he speed up contract

 

           15              negotiations and settle all of the union

 

           16              contracts.  I think it's imperative for the

 

           17              city to move on in any way, shape or form

 

           18              that people don't have contracts.  I'm in

 

           19              the union and when I don't have a contract

 

           20              I'm not going to be a happy camper, as Mrs.

 

           21              Evans, we are both in the same union

 

           22              together and our contract is coming up and I

 

           23              can't believe how it must feel not to have a

 

           24              contract for all of those years, and we are

 

           25              pretty much in the same both as the city.

 

 

 

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            1              You know, many of them have gotten raises

 

            2              over the years and some of them don't pay

 

            3              health care, etcetera, and we do.  You know,

 

            4              we just got hit with a big increase in our

 

            5              health care costs.  My health care for my

 

            6              husband and I is up to $500 a month, so, you

 

            7              know, I know how it feels, so I think that

 

            8              we should send a letter to the mayor letting

 

            9              him know that council is desirous of him

 

           10              settling these contracts as soon as

 

           11              possible.

 

           12                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           13                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All in

 

           14              favor?

 

           15                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           16                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  All opposed?  The

 

           18              ayes have it.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI:  And that's all I have.

 

           20              Thank you.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  Just very

 

           22              quickly, and I'm sorry about the -- I did

 

           23              during our caucus I mentioned the

 

           24              firefighters monument and I'm sorry that I

 

           25              didn't communicate that to you.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI:  That's fine.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: In conjunction with

 

            3              that, I would also like to say that I know

 

            4              the Department of Public Safety is also

 

            5              putting together information for a

 

            6              commendation/proclamation, whatever the

 

            7              proper terminology would be regarding the

 

            8              incidents and people in the fire on Ash

 

            9              Street, and we will await, you know, what

 

           10              comes from the Department of Public Safety.

 

           11                      Also, on Comcast, I believe that --

 

           12              I believe that the only way that we are

 

           13              going to get any type of favorable contract

 

           14              is through a competitive bidding process.

 

           15              Given the nature or the number of people

 

           16              that are moving from cable television to

 

           17              satellite dishes, one would think that

 

           18              Comcast would be looking to perhaps reduce

 

           19              the amounts of money that they would be

 

           20              paying to the city for the franchise and I

 

           21              think the only way in which we can keep our

 

           22              revenue from cable television at a

 

           23              reasonable amount is through a competitive

 

           24              bidding process.  I know there are other

 

           25              companies out there that I'm sure would

 

 

 

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            1              welcome the opportunity, and so hopefully as

 

            2              we move forward closer to the termination of

 

            3              the Comcast contract that there is a

 

            4              competitive process.  I know a friend of

 

            5              mine told me that if I ever voted for

 

            6              Comcast again that he would personally come

 

            7              over and look for a recall election, so I do

 

            8              believe that there is, you know, again,

 

            9              there is a need to do something about

 

           10              Comcast and the way it has operated.

 

           11                      Just a couple of quick items, you

 

           12              may have noticed that there is a little bit

 

           13              of change in the process for kind of sending

 

           14              letters to different agencies, you know, the

 

           15              different departments, that was at my

 

           16              request.  I thought that perhaps letters

 

           17              sent as individuals were not as well

 

           18              received as they would be if they came from

 

           19              council and I asked Mrs. Evans before during

 

           20              the caucus and Mrs. Gatelli if we would go

 

           21              through the process of rather than sending

 

           22              individual letters, you know, that we would

 

           23              agree as a council to these letters or for

 

           24              the gathering of information and hopefully

 

           25              it will improve the communications between

 

 

 

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            1              the departments of, you know, the government

 

            2              departments and the city council.

 

            3                      Also, and I didn't know whether I

 

            4              wanted to address this or not, but the whole

 

            5              idea of rules regarding citizen

 

            6              participation, they are not attempts to

 

            7              limit free speech in any way and have never

 

            8              been.  Despite the opinion of the Court that

 

            9              Mr. Spindler gave us, really that opinion

 

           10              was in a different venue and different

 

           11              circumstance and has really nothing to do

 

           12              with the way in which any agency or any body

 

           13              regulates itself.  We do have the right to

 

           14              set limits on what is said in council,

 

           15              limits within, again, within the

 

           16              constitution and I believe those limits are

 

           17              fair and reasonable and we will continue to

 

           18              use those for the operation of citizen

 

           19              participation.

 

           20                      Last thing, the possibility on

 

           21              economic development in the city, maybe for

 

           22              Mr. Ancherani a third business coming since

 

           23              you mentioned two, the possibility of the

 

           24              sale of the Laminations building and the

 

           25              possibility of a company coming in with the

 

 

 

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            1              appearance of 60 jobs at approximately $20

 

            2              an hour hopefully within the next, you know,

 

            3              next brief time we will see that take place.

 

            4              It would certainly be a boom for the city.

 

            5              And that's it all I have and thank you.

 

            6                      MS. GARVEY: FIFTH ORDER.  5-B. FOR

 

            7              INTRODUCTION - AN ORDINANCE - VACATING ANY

 

            8              AND ALL RIGHT, TITLE AND INTEREST OF THE

 

            9              CITY OF SCRANTON IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY KNOWN

 

           10              AS SMALLACOMBE DRIVE AS MORE PARTICULARLY

 

           11              DESCRIBED ON THE MAP ATTACHED HERETO.

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           13              entertain a motion that Item 5-B be

 

           14              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

           18              those in favor say aye.

 

           19                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           22              have it.

 

           23                      MS. GARVEY: I believe we were going

 

           24              to call for a motion for public hearing.

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: I move that city clerk,

 

 

 

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            1              Kay Garvey, notify the Lackawanna County

 

            2              Regional Planning Commission that the City

 

            3              Planning Commission and make the necessary

 

            4              arrangements for a public hearing.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  Second.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            7              those in favor?

 

            8                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           11              have it.

 

           12                      MS. GARVEY: 5-C. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           13              AN ORDINANCE - PROVIDING FOR THE ACCEPTANCE

 

           14              AND DEDICATION OF JAMESTOWN WAY CIRCLE AND

 

           15              PARK EDGE LANE; AS WELL AS ALL THE STORM

 

           16              DRAINAGE SYSTEM UNDERLYING SAID STREETS AND

 

           17              RIGHTS-OF-WAY; ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED

 

           18              IMPROVEMENTS BEING LOCATED IN THE KEYSER

 

           19              TERRACE SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF SCRANTON,

 

           20              PENNSYLVANIA; ALSO AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           21              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO ACCEPT

 

           22              FOR THE SUM OF ONE DOLLAR ($1.00) AND TO

 

           23              RECORD IN THE OFFICIAL RECORDS AT THE OFFICE

 

           24              OF THE RECORDER OF DEEDS FOR LACKAWANNA

 

           25              COUNTY A DEED FOR THE AFORESAID PUBLIC

 

 

 

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            1              STREETS AND IMPROVEMENTS.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            3              entertain a motion that Item 5-C be

 

            4              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            8              those in favor?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           12              have it and so moved.

 

           13                      MS. GARVEY: 5-D. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           14              AN ORDINANCE - AUTHORIZING THE AUCTION AND

 

           15              SALE OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ACQUIRED

 

           16              PURSUANT TO THE LACKAWANNA RIVER FLOOD

 

           17              CONTROL PROJECT, SITUATED AT THE CORNER OF

 

           18              DIAMOND AVENUE AND WOOD STREET, THE FORMER

 

           19              CORDARO BUILDING AND RECORDED AT RECORD BOOK

 

           20              0720 PAGE 325.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           22              entertain a motion that Item 5-D be

 

           23              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           24                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            2              those in favor?

 

            3                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

            5                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

            6              have it and so moved.

 

            7                      MS. GARVEY: 5-E. FOR INTRODUCTION -0

 

            8              AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF THE COUNCIL

 

            9              NO. 86, 1998 ENTITLED AN ORDINANCE "amending

 

           10              file of the council no. 148, 1993, entitled

 

           11              "AN ORDINANCE GOVERNING THE DESIGN

 

           12              CONSTRUCTION, ALTERATION, ENLARGEMENT,

 

           13              REPAIR, DEMOLITION, REMOVAL, CONVERSION, USE

 

           14              AND MAINTENANCE OF ALL BUILDINGS AND

 

           15              STRUCTURES KNOWN AS THE BUILDING CODE;

 

           16              PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PERMIS,

 

           17              COLLECTION OF FEES, MAKING OF INSPECTION,

 

           18              PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION

 

           19              THEREOF, ESTABLISHING MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS

 

           20              FOR BUILDING UNDERWRITER INSPECTORS,

 

           21              DECLARING AND ESTABLISHING FIRE LIMITS" BY

 

           22              ADOPTING THE BOCA NATIONAL BUILDING CODE

 

           23              1993, ALSO REFERRED TO AS THE HOUSING CODE,

 

           24              TWELFTH EDITION" TO INSERT A NEW SECTION

 

           25              2(D) AND ADJUSTING ALL LETTERS AND NUMBERS

 

 

 

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            1              ACCORDINGLY.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            3              entertain a motion that Item 5-E be

 

            4              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

            6                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            8              those in favor?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           12              have it.

 

           13                      MS. GARVEY: 5-F. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

           14              A RESOLUTION - APPROVING THE MODIFICATION OF

 

           15              EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON SOUTH MAIN

 

           16              AVENUE (SR 3013) AND LUZERNE STREET (SR

 

           17              3014) TRAFFIC SIGNAL PERMIT NO. 6192.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-F be

 

           20              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

           24              those in favor?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

            3              have it.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: 5-G. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

            5              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR ANT

 

            6              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE

 

            7              AN ENTER INTO SUPPLEMENTAL ENGINEERING

 

            8              AGREEMENT NUMBER 041746-B WITH BUCHART-HORN

 

            9              INC. TO AMEND PART II OF THE AGREEMENT TO

 

           10              COVER ADDITIONAL WORK AND SERVICES FOR

 

           11              RIGHT-OF-WAY PLANS AND FINAL STRUCTURE

 

           12              DESIGN OF THE ROCKWELL AVENUE BRIDGE PROJECT

 

           13              FOR AN ADDITIONAL COST OF $73,404.55.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           15              entertain a motion that Item 5-G be

 

           16              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  So moved.

 

           18                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  I

 

           20              would just like to make one comment, I would

 

           21              like to find some information regarding the

 

           22              overall cost of that project and whether

 

           23              this money was originally set aside and

 

           24              budgeted or whether this is an additional

 

           25              and the reasons why and I would hopefully

 

 

 

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            1              will have that information for next week.

 

            2              Anyone else?

 

            3                      MS. GATELLI: No.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF: All those in favor?

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Ayes.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

            7                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

            8              have it and so moved.

 

            9                      MS. GARVEY: 5-H FOR INTRODUCTION - A

 

           10              RESOLUTION - AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 1285,

 

           11              2007 A RESOLUTION "AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

           12              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE

 

           13              AND APPLY FOR A GRANT FOR HOUSING AND

 

           14              REDEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE THROUGH THE

 

           15              COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA DEPARTMENT OF

 

           16              COMMUNITY AND ECOMANIC DEVELOPMENT (DCED);

 

           17              ACCEPTING THE GRANT IF THE APPLICATION IS

 

           18              SUCCESSFUL, AND COORDINATING THE USE OF THE

 

           19              GRANT FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT TO BE NAMED AS

 

           20              "SKYVIEW PARK APARTMENTS" WITH THE TO BE

 

           21              NAMES AS "SKYVIEW PARK APARTMENTS" WITH THE

 

           22              NATIONAL HOUSING TRUST (NHT)-ENTERPRISE

 

           23              PRESERVATION CORPORATION" TO INCLUDE THE

 

           24              APPROPRIATE BLIGHT LANGUAGE REQUIRED BY

 

           25              DCED.

 

 

 

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            1                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

            2              entertain a motion that Item 5-H be

 

            3              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI:  So moved.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

            7              those this favor?

 

            8                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           10                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

           11              have it and so moved.

 

           12                      MS. GARVEY: 5-I FOR INTRODUCTION - A

 

           13              RESOLUTION - ACCEPTING THE GIFT OF A POLICE

 

           14              VEHICLE, VIN NUMBER 2FPFP71W02X134275 FROM

 

           15              POLICE OFFICER JEFF GILROY FOR USE IN THE

 

           16              CITY'S FLEET PURSUANT TO A LEAST AGREEMENT

 

           17              BETWEEN THE CITY AND OFFICER GILROY.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time he will

 

           19              entertain a motion that Item 5-I be

 

           20              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           21                      MS. GATELLI:  So moved.

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           23                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

           24              those in favor?

 

           25                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

 

 

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            1                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed?  The ayes

 

            3              have it and so moved.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: 5-J. FOR INTRODUCTION -

 

            5              A RESOLUTION - AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND

 

            6              OTHER APPROPRIATE CITY OFFICIALS TO EXECUTE

 

            7              AND ENTER INTO A LEAST/POLICY AGREEMENT WITH

 

            8              OFFICER JEFF GILROY GOVERNING THE USE OF

 

            9              OFFICER GILROY'S "PRIVATE CRUISER" AS

 

           10              DEFINED HEREIN.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time I'll

 

           12              entertain a motion that Item 5-J be

 

           13              introduced into it's proper committee.

 

           14                      MS. GATELLI: So moved.

 

           15                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: On the question?  All

 

           17              those in favor?

 

           18                      MS. EVANS: Aye.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI: Aye.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.  Opposed? The ayes

 

           21              have it and so moved.

 

           22                      MS. GARVEY: SIXTH ORDER.  NO

 

           23              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.  SEVENTH ORDER.  NO

 

           24              BUSINESS AT THIS TIME.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF: At this time then I

 

 

 

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            1              would like to thank you for your cooperation

 

            2              and your input and I would like to ask for

 

            3              our adjournment.

 

            4                      MS. GATELLI: I make a motion.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

            6                      MR. MCGOFF: We shall adjourn.

 

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            3        I hereby certify that the proceedings and

 

            4   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

            5   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

            6   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

            7   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

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                                    CATHENE S. NARDOZZI

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