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            1              SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

 

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            5                          HELD:

 

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            7                   Monday, January 7, 2008

 

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            9                        LOCATION:

 

           10                   Council Chambers

 

           11                 Scranton City Hall

 

           12              340 North Washington Avenue

 

           13                Scranton, Pennsylvania

 

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                            CATHENE S. NARDOZZI- COURT REPORTER

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            2   CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

 

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                MR. ROBERT MCGOFF, PRESIDENT

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            6   MS. JUDY GATELLI, VICE-PRESIDENT

 

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                MS. JANET E. EVANS

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            9   MS. SHERRY FANUCCI

 

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                MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT

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           12   MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

 

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                MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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           15   MR. AMIL MINORA, SOLICITOR

 

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            1                      (Pledge of Allegiance recited.)

 

            2                      MS. GARVEY:  I would like to ask

 

            3              that everyone please remain standing.  I

 

            4              would ask for a moment of silence to

 

            5              remember the victims of yesterday's fatal

 

            6              fire.  I'd ask for your prayers for Richard

 

            7              and Marie Fenstermacher, who were victims of

 

            8              the fire, and especially for Captain James

 

            9              Robeson and the Scranton fire Department,

 

           10              who lost his life in the line duty at this

 

           11              fire.  Please remember his family in his

 

           12              prayers, especially Jim's wife, Linda, and

 

           13              his son, Ryan, and this most devastating

 

           14              time of loss.  Please pray for firefighters

 

           15              Jennifer Hawker, Tommy Owns and Richard

 

           16              Czyzyk who were also injured in this fire.

 

           17              Please ask that they, as well as the entire

 

           18              Scranton Fire Department, will recover from

 

           19              this most tragic event.

 

           20                      (Moment of silent observed.)

 

           21                      MS. GARVEY: Thank you.  I would now

 

           22              like to ask Monsignor Philip Gray to step

 

           23              forward to the podium to offer the

 

           24              invocation, please.

 

           25                      MR. GRAY: Allow me to pray the


 

 

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            1              prayer of St. Francis.

 

            2                      (Invocation given by Monsignor

 

            3              Gray.)

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: In accordance with the

 

            5              Home Rule Charter of the City of Scranton,

 

            6              designating the first Monday of January as

 

            7              the day for City Council to reorganize, I

 

            8              hereby call this 2008 reorganization meeting

 

            9              to order.  Neil, can we please have roll

 

           10              call?

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI:  On the question?  Roll

 

           12              call.

 

           13                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           14                      MS. EVANS:  Here.

 

           15                      MR. COOLICAN: Mr. Courtright.

 

           16                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Here.

 

           17                      MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Fanucci?

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI:  Here.

 

           19                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Gatelli.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI: Here.

 

           21                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  Here.

 

           23                      MS. GARVEY:  I have before me the

 

           24              certificate of election of Roseann

 

           25              Novembrino, City Controller.  Will the


 

 

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            1              council adopt a motion to the effect that

 

            2              the certificate be received and ordered

 

            3              filed and made a part of the minutes?

 

            4                      MS. EVANS: I so move.

 

            5                      MS. GATELLI:  I'll second the

 

            6              motion.

 

            7                      MS. GARVEY:  On the question?  All

 

            8              those favor?

 

            9                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           10                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           11                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           12                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           13                      MR MCGOFF:  Aye.

 

           14                      MS. GARVEY: Opposed?  The ayes have

 

           15              it and so moved.

 

           16                      MS. EVANS:  And I just wanted to say

 

           17              what a great honor it is to have made that

 

           18              motion for Scranton's first lady and a six

 

           19              term city controller.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY:  At this time I would

 

           21              just like to ask that as the people are

 

           22              being called to the podium to be sworn in,

 

           23              it would be appreciated if the judges and

 

           24              the elected officials would then sign the

 

           25              documents that Neil will have ready for you


 

 

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            1              upon completion of your comments.  And,

 

            2              Neil, they may need that before them, they

 

            3              may have to give it to them as they are

 

            4              coming up to the podium so that they can

 

            5              recite what's on the paper.

 

            6                      I will now ask that Honorable James

 

            7              J. Walsh to step forward to the podium to

 

            8              administer the oath of officer to Mrs.

 

            9              Novembrino for the elected office of City

 

           10              Controller.

 

           11                      (ROSEANNE NOVEMBRINO was

 

           12              administered the oath of office by the

 

           13              Honorable James J. Walsh.)

 

           14                      JUDGE WALSH:  Well, once again on

 

           15              behalf of myself and my whole family and

 

           16              people of the City of Scranton,

 

           17              congratulations again.  I think this must be

 

           18              a record, isn't it six times, city

 

           19              controller?  It must be.  Good luck.

 

           20                      MS. NOVEMBRINO: Monsignor Gray,

 

           21              Honorable Judges, Mayor and Council, I feel

 

           22              so privileged to be standing here today.  I

 

           23              realize that once again I have received the

 

           24              wealth and support of my wonderful family,

 

           25              friends and exceptional citizens of Scranton


 

 

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            1              who truly have supported me year after year.

 

            2                   Next to my love of God, family and

 

            3              friends, comes my love for my great city.

 

            4              In government no longer can we afford to sit

 

            5              in judgment of one another or be at odds

 

            6              with one another.  Yes, we made disagree,

 

            7              but our disagreements should be resolved as

 

            8              quickly as possible and always with the

 

            9              terms of the Home Rule Charter that dictate

 

           10              our roles as separate governmental bodies.

 

           11              Let common sense and common courtesy

 

           12              prevail.

 

           13                      It is time as a city we determine

 

           14              our goals, set out to achieve them and work

 

           15              together to realize them as controller, I

 

           16              pledge that my staff will be part of a

 

           17              positive process that will ensure the city's

 

           18              future.  We will always keep our eyes on the

 

           19              builders, the planners and the future of

 

           20              Scranton.

 

           21                      At this time I would also like to

 

           22              extend my congratulations to Councilmen Bill

 

           23              Courtright and Bob McGoff.  I also would

 

           24              like to mention my condolences to the family

 

           25              of Captain Robeson.  A person once a friend


 

 

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            1              of mine once give me a quote about a firemen

 

            2              and it reads:  No one is a stranger in the

 

            3              eyes of a firefighter.  Thank you so much.

 

            4                      MS. GARVEY: I have before me the

 

            5              certificates of election of William L.

 

            6              Courtright and Robert E. McGoff, Jr. As City

 

            7              Councilpersons.  Will the Council adopt a

 

            8              motion to the effect that the certificates

 

            9              be received and ordered filed and made a

 

           10              part of the minutes?

 

           11                      MS. EVANS: I so move.

 

           12                      MS. GATELLI:  I second the motion.

 

           13                      MS. GARVEY:  On the question?  All

 

           14              those in favor say aye.

 

           15                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           16                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           17                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF: Aye.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY:  Those opposed?  The

 

           21              ayes have it and so moved.  I will now ask

 

           22              the Honorable Judge Thomas J. Munley to step

 

           23              forward to the podium and administer the

 

           24              oath of office to William L. Courtright for

 

           25              the elected office of City Council.


 

 

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            1                      (WILLIAM L. COURTRIGHT was

 

            2              administered the oath of office by the

 

            3              Honorable Thomas J. Munley.)

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: I will reserve my

 

            5              comments until the end of the meeting when

 

            6              we all make our comments at the end to speed

 

            7              it up for everybody.

 

            8                      MS. GARVEY:  I would the ask the

 

            9              Honorable Judge Carmen Minora if he would

 

           10              step forward to the podium to administer to

 

           11              oath of office to Robert E. McGoff for

 

           12              elected office of City Council.

 

           13                      (ROBERT E. MCGOFF was administered

 

           14              the oath of office by the Honorable Carmen

 

           15              Minora.)

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: I, too, would like to

 

           17              reserve my comments until the end.  Thank

 

           18              you.

 

           19                      MS. GARVEY:  I would now like to ask

 

           20              Mayor Doherty if you would like to come to

 

           21              the podium and have a few comments.

 

           22                      MAYOR DOHERTY: Good afternoon,

 

           23              everyone.  Judges, welcome.

 

           24              Mrs. Novembrino, congratulations, sixth

 

           25              term, that's outstanding.  I just want to


 

 

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            1              thank you for all of that you have done for

 

            2              the city and more importantly for allowing

 

            3              us to work city government, we work

 

            4              extremely well with you, you are very kind

 

            5              and often guide us through many obstacles

 

            6              that we face throughout the day as we run

 

            7              the city, you really are an outstanding

 

            8              asset to our community and I just want to

 

            9              thank you personally.

 

           10                      Councilman Courtright,

 

           11              congratulations, an outstanding election and

 

           12              four years of great service.  You do an

 

           13              outstanding for the city and you really are

 

           14              a voice for the people and I just want to

 

           15              congratulate you for all your hard work and

 

           16              what you do for our community and your

 

           17              success in this past election.

 

           18                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Thank you.

 

           19                      MAYOR DOHERTY: Bob, congratulations,

 

           20              an outstanding election and your service to

 

           21              the community.  You have done a great, great

 

           22              job.

 

           23                      I would like to also thank Mrs.

 

           24              Gatelli.  Working with you the past few

 

           25              years as a council president has been


 

 

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            1              tremendous.  When I say you are always open,

 

            2              I mean we talk all the time regarding

 

            3              different situations that happen as to the

 

            4              day-to-day running of the city and you

 

            5              really have done the city a great service.

 

            6              You have been outstanding, so I just want to

 

            7              congratulate you.

 

            8                      And to everyone on council, I

 

            9              appreciate all of your hard work.  It is not

 

           10              easy to be of public service, but the great

 

           11              think is you all have a tremendous love for

 

           12              our city and you want to serve our city well

 

           13              and you have.  We have done very, very well

 

           14              as a city and I appreciate all of your hard

 

           15              work and your commitment and your love for

 

           16              our city, so I look forward to working with

 

           17              all of you over the next two to four years

 

           18              and I just want to say thank you.  Thank you

 

           19              on behalf of everyone in the city for your

 

           20              hard work, your love and your passion for

 

           21              Scranton.  Thank you very much.

 

           22                      MS. GARVEY:  I will now accept

 

           23              nominations for temporary chairperson, what

 

           24              is your pleasure?

 

           25                      MS. GARVEY: I move that Sherry


 

 

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            1              Fanucci be appointed temporary chair.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  I second the motion.

 

            3                      MS. GARVEY: On the question?  All

 

            4              those in favor say aye.

 

            5                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

            8                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.

 

           10                      MS. GARVEY: Those opposed?  The ayes

 

           11              have it and so ordered.  Mrs. Fanucci, will

 

           12              you please take over as temporary

 

           13              chairperson?

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI: Thank you.  We will now

 

           15              proceed with the reorganizational meeting.

 

           16              I know ask for nominations for City Clerk.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: I nominate Kay Garvey,

 

           18              City Clerk.

 

           19                      MS. GATELLI: I second the motion.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI:  On the question?  I

 

           21              will ask for a roll call, please, Neil.

 

           22                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  Roll

 

           23              call.

 

           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           25                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

            3                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            4                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

            5                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Gatelli.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.

 

            7                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

            8                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.

 

            9                      MS. FANUCCI: The motion is adopted

 

           10              and I declare Kay Garvey duly and legally

 

           11              elected City Clerk.  I will now call for

 

           12              nominations for permanent president --

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I would like to

 

           14              nominate Sherry Fanucci as president for the

 

           15              chairperson and as for President of City

 

           16              Council for the ensuing two years.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: Second.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: On the question?  I'm

 

           19              going to decline, but I want to thank you

 

           20              very much for nominating me and your faith

 

           21              in me is outstanding and overwhelming, but

 

           22              being the fact that I, you know, am right

 

           23              now raising my daughter and a home and

 

           24              trying to have a job and city council I

 

           25              believe that the president would be just too


 

 

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            1              much for me to handle at this moment, but I

 

            2              want to thank you for the nomination.  Thank

 

            3              you.  Now, I'd like to proceed and I'd ask--

 

            4                      MR. COURTRIGHT: We have to vote,

 

            5              Amil?

 

            6                      MS. FANUCCI: Oh, we have to vote,

 

            7              okay.  I'll ask for a roll call.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            9                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           11                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           12                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           13                      MS. FANUCCI:  No.

 

           14                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Gatelli.

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI: No.

 

           16                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF:  No.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: The no's have it and

 

           19              motion has failed.  On the question I'd like

 

           20              to ask for nominations for President of

 

           21              Council?  I would like to nominate for the

 

           22              next two years Mr. Robert McGoff as

 

           23              permanent chairperson and President of City

 

           24              Council?

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI: I second the motion.


 

 

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            1                      MS. FANUCCI: On the question?

 

            2                      MS. EVANS:  Yes.  Most often council

 

            3              casts unanimous votes.  Occasionally,

 

            4              however, council demonstrates disagreement

 

            5              on crucial issues such as borrowing,

 

            6              budgets, and taxation.  Throughout both

 

            7              agreements and disagreements I respect my

 

            8              honorable colleagues, however, out of equal

 

            9              respect and concern for all taxpayers

 

           10              present and future I cannot approve of a

 

           11              President of City Council who voted to

 

           12              borrow in 2007 and 2008, increased taxes

 

           13              unnecessarily in 2007, and saddled senior

 

           14              citizens and the working core in 2007 with

 

           15              Draconian fees, penalties, costs and fines

 

           16              in the collection of delinquent taxes that

 

           17              may result in a the loss of their homes.

 

           18                   Further, I cannot vote for any who

 

           19              would seek to limit free speech past,

 

           20              present or future.

 

           21                      MS. FANUCCI: Anyone else on the

 

           22              question?

 

           23                      MS. GATELLI:  I'd just like to say

 

           24              that some things never change.

 

           25                      MS. FANUCCI: I'll ask for a roll


 

 

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            1              call.  Neil?

 

            2                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

            3                      MS. EVANS:  No.

 

            4                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

            5                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

            6                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

            7                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

            8                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Gatelli.

 

            9                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.

 

           10                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: The motion is adopted

 

           13              and I declare Robert McGoff duly and legally

 

           14              elected President of City Council.  Now I'd

 

           15              like to call for nominations for

 

           16              vice-president of city council for the

 

           17              ensuing next two years.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  I nominate Judy Gatelli

 

           19              as vice president of city council.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: I second the motion.

 

           21              On the question?

 

           22                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  As an elected

 

           23              representative of the people I cannot cast

 

           24              my vote for Mrs. Gatelli as I did in 2006.

 

           25              The people have railed against a lack of


 

 

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            1              leadership, professionalism and decorum

 

            2              during her presidency.  She cancelled

 

            3              numerous meetings, assigned police to

 

            4              council meetings, removed television cameras

 

            5              from council chambers, limited the number of

 

            6              speakers or the number of citizens who could

 

            7              attend council meetings causing them to

 

            8              stand in line for many cold hours to gain

 

            9              entry to city council, and engaged in

 

           10              behavior, name calling and disrespect of our

 

           11              constituency.

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: Is there anyone else on

 

           13              the question?  I actually want to say

 

           14              something, it just goes to show me that

 

           15              class cannot be taught.  Is there anyone

 

           16              else on the question?  Roll call, please,

 

           17              Neil.

 

           18                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mrs. Evans.

 

           19                      MS. EVANS:  No.

 

           20                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. Courtright.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  No.

 

           22                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Fanucci.

 

           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  Yes.

 

           24                      MR. COOLICAN:  Ms. Gatelli.

 

           25                      MS. GATELLI: Yes.


 

 

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            1                      MR. COOLICAN:  Mr. McGoff.

 

            2                      MR. MCGOFF:  Yes.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI:  I declare Judy

 

            4              Gatelli, vice-president of city council

 

            5              legally and duly.

 

            6                      MS. GATELLI: At this time I'd like

 

            7              to make a motion that we appoint Amil Minora

 

            8              to the position of city solicitor.

 

            9                      MR. MCGOFF:  I second the motion.

 

           10                      MS. GATELLI: On the question?

 

           11                      MS. FANUCCI: On the question?

 

           12                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?  All

 

           13              in favor.

 

           14                      MS. EVANS:  Aye.

 

           15                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           16                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Aye.

 

           18                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  The ayes have it

 

           19              and so moved.

 

           20                      MS. GARVEY: I will now ask

 

           21              Councilman McGoff to come forward to the

 

           22              podium and be sworn in as council president

 

           23              by the Honorable Judge Carmen Minora.

 

           24                      JUDGE MINORA: This oath will sound

 

           25              familiar since you just took it ten minutes


 

 

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            1              ago.

 

            2                      (ROBERT E. MCGOFF, was administered

 

            3              the oath of office by Judge Minora.)

 

            4                      JUDGE MINORA: Congratulations again,

 

            5              Robert.

 

            6                      MS. GARVEY:  I will now ask

 

            7              Councilwoman Gatelli to come forward to the

 

            8              podium and be s worn in as Council

 

            9              Vice-President by the Honorable Judge Carmen

 

           10              Minora.

 

           11                      JUDGE MINORA: I just have to tell as

 

           12              I just whispered to Council President

 

           13              McGoff, I'm pleased and privileged to be

 

           14              here and participate in any ceremonies.  I

 

           15              did this four years ago and I'm delighted to

 

           16              do it again.  Our families have known each

 

           17              other for about three generations, and I

 

           18              also hope that the message of Monsignor Gray

 

           19              isn't lost on the day and that we reflect on

 

           20              the sacrifices that public servants have to

 

           21              make, firefighters making the ultimate

 

           22              sacrifice and also the Fenstermachers who

 

           23              I've known since I was a magistrate, and I

 

           24              would hope that the acrimony that associates

 

           25              itself with this chambers can become reduce.


 

 

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            1                   Judge Munley and I were just the Board

 

            2              of Elections for the past election cycle and

 

            3              one of the efforts that he and I thought we

 

            4              should make was that we should to try

 

            5              approach our task in the most bipartisan way

 

            6              possible and it was a pleasure and privilege

 

            7              to work with Judge Munley on that and I

 

            8              would hope that can carry for your term as

 

            9              well and I wish that for all of you.

 

           10                      (JUDY GATELLI, is administered the

 

           11              oath of office by Judge Minora.)

 

           12                      MS. FANUCCI: I will now ask Judge

 

           13              Thomas Munley to come to the podium and have

 

           14              Kay Garvey sworn in as city clerk.

 

           15                      (KAY GARVEY, is administered the

 

           16              oath of office by Judge Munley.)

 

           17                      MS. GARVEY: I really didn't prepare

 

           18              anything to say this is just off the record,

 

           19              off the cuff, I would like to thank all of

 

           20              you once again for your confidence in me and

 

           21              retaining me for city clerk for the next two

 

           22              years and I will support each of you and

 

           23              offer you the -- I'm a little bit nervous

 

           24              right now, I'm not usually at this side of

 

           25              the podium, with the confidence that you


 

 

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            1              have shown in me, I will return respect to

 

            2              each of you and treat you in that way that

 

            3              you deserve.  Thank you.

 

            4                      I'd also thank to my husband for

 

            5              putting up with me for the last two years,

 

            6              it hasn't been easy.

 

            7                      MS. FANUCCI: I'm going to ask that

 

            8              Robert McGoff take over as permanent

 

            9              chairperson and president of Scranton City

 

           10              Council.

 

           11                      MR. MCGOFF: Thank you.  We are now

 

           12              ready to consider the Rules of Procedure by

 

           13              which this council will be governed during

 

           14              the next two years, what is your pleasure?

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI:  I move that the Rules

 

           16              of Council be adopted, Resolution No. 1,

 

           17              2008, as required by the Home Rule Charter.

 

           18                      MS. FANUCCI: I second the motion.

 

           19              Mrs. Garvey, would you please read

 

           20              Resolution No. 1.

 

           21                      MS. GARVEY:  Resolution No. 1, 2008,

 

           22              ADOPTING THE RULES AND ORDER OF BUSINESS OF

 

           23              THE SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL, SCRANTON,

 

           24              PENNSYLVANIA.

 

           25                      MR. MCGOFF:  On the question?


 

 

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            1                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question, I

 

            2              have a question for Mr. Minora.  I have no

 

            3              problem with any of the rules except one and

 

            4              that is the one Mrs. Franus had brought up,

 

            5              she brought it up before I had an

 

            6              opportunity.  I can understand after their

 

            7              five minutes is up that we shouldn't be

 

            8              conversing back and forth with them and I

 

            9              support that, but I don't know how could I

 

           10              sit here if somebody asks me a question and

 

           11              then they are willing to forfeit their time,

 

           12              and if I'm willing to answer the question,

 

           13              I'm not saying any council person has to

 

           14              answer the question, but I think I should be

 

           15              afforded the opportunity if they say they

 

           16              would forfeit their time to me to allow me

 

           17              to answer the question.

 

           18                      You know, I have sat here for four

 

           19              years and sometimes the first year when I

 

           20              was council that sometimes you get two or

 

           21              three people asking a question and you say,

 

           22              you know, we'll do it in motion when motions

 

           23              were at the end, sometimes it didn't have

 

           24              the impact, sometime I didn't remember the

 

           25              question as enough, I understand the intent,


 

 

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            1              the intent is to do away with some of the

 

            2              animosity we have here, and I'm all for

 

            3              that, but are you telling me it's -- they

 

            4              can legally stop me from answering the

 

            5              question?

 

            6                      MR. MINORA: Well, here's -- we are

 

            7              adopting rules and the Home Rule Charter,

 

            8              the charter requires us to adopt the rules.

 

            9              Those are the rules proposed.  Once you have

 

           10              a rule if they are not followed, as I said

 

           11              numerous times, if you don't follow a rule

 

           12              it's a mere suggestion, so if the rules are

 

           13              adopted they are rules.  I'm not sure the

 

           14              legal question you are asking me.

 

           15                      People have a right under public

 

           16              meeting laws to make comment, they don't

 

           17              have a right to answers, they don't have

 

           18              a right to require you to produce documents.

 

           19              There is a separate statute for that, but a

 

           20              lot of those things have happened here, so

 

           21              if you are asking me to a legal opinion

 

           22              whether or not you have the right to

 

           23              comment, as I understand these rules they

 

           24              provide that right in motions and really

 

           25              it's not different from our old rules which


 

 

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            1              said that all comments and questions should

 

            2              be directed through the chair and really the

 

            3              other members, the president was the only

 

            4              person who had the right under the old

 

            5              rules, you know, the previous rules to make

 

            6              comment and to direct answers. So it's

 

            7              really not a dramatic change in that

 

            8              respect, it's just really stating in black

 

            9              and white what already was the rule.

 

           10                      It doesn't preclude anybody from

 

           11              making comment during their motions section.

 

           12              All of you have that opportunity in 5-A I

 

           13              believe to answer, to make comments and that

 

           14              would come after the public speaking, so I

 

           15              don't know if I'm answering your question or

 

           16              just babbling on, but I'm trying to address

 

           17              all of the points that you made, some of

 

           18              them, you know, I can only answer a legal

 

           19              questions, others are questions that, you

 

           20              know, you adopt the rules, some will be set,

 

           21              some will adopt.  The adopted rules become

 

           22              the adopted rules.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, let me say

 

           24              this.  In my first two years when

 

           25              Mr. DiBileo was here I never answered


 

 

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            1              anybody's question without asking his

 

            2              permission first out of courtesy to the

 

            3              seat, and I did the same when Mrs. Gatelli

 

            4              was here, whether I care for who is the

 

            5              president or not I always respect the seat,

 

            6              the office.

 

            7                      So if I vote, yes, on these rules

 

            8              then I'm agreeing that I -- I'm agreeing

 

            9              that I can't answer someone's question,

 

           10              that's the way I look at it.  These rules

 

           11              are telling me that I can't answer

 

           12              somebody's questions until my portion of the

 

           13              meeting where I comment and I don't agree

 

           14              with that, I think that's wrong.

 

           15                      Let me ask you this question, if I

 

           16              vote, no, and then someone asks me a

 

           17              question and I answer in their five minutes

 

           18              what happens to me?

 

           19                      MR. MINORA:  Well, the rules are the

 

           20              rules, you are can be gaveled.

 

           21                      MR. COURTRIGHT: If I break the rule

 

           22              what happens to me?

 

           23                      MR. MINORA: As anybody who breaks

 

           24              the rules you can be gaveled down, called

 

           25              out of order and, you know, those are


 

 

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            1              Robert's Rules of Order.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And I can be removed

 

            3              from these chambers?

 

            4                      MR. MINORA: Well, I hope that

 

            5              nothing would ever come to that.

 

            6                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Well, I've seen

 

            7              worse in here, that's why I'm asking.  I

 

            8              mean, let's face it, the last two years have

 

            9              been a lot of problems.

 

           10                      MR. MINORA: Can a councilperson be

 

           11              removed for being out of order, is that what

 

           12              you're asking me?

 

           13                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  Yes.

 

           14                      MR. MINORA: At some point in time

 

           15              when a council person, just like any other

 

           16              person who disrupts a meeting can they be

 

           17              removed, yes, and it's been done in this

 

           18              county in the past.

 

           19                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay, I would be

 

           20              voting, no, just for that one particular

 

           21              reason.  I agree with all of the other rules

 

           22              and I agree with the reasoning why they are

 

           23              doing it I just feel like I'm under a

 

           24              Communist Rule here right now, so I will be

 

           25              voting, no.


 

 

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            1                      MS. EVANS: Like Mr. Courtright, I do

 

            2              agree with the majority of the rules, but it

 

            3              does appear that one of the rules of council

 

            4              is rudded in ignorance and I cannot vote

 

            5              then to approve the rules nor will I be

 

            6              party to them or abide by that rule.

 

            7              Citizens have the right to question their

 

            8              elected officials and to receive answers.

 

            9              Elected officials have the right to speak to

 

           10              constituents and respond to their questions.

 

           11              No citizen should have to engage in a game

 

           12              of question and answer that plays out as the

 

           13              weeks and months dwindle.  Not all citizens

 

           14              can remain to receive a response later in

 

           15              the meeting and not all citizens can attend

 

           16              weekly meetings to receive their responses

 

           17              at later dates.  Not all citizens are naive

 

           18              enough to be duped into a procedure that

 

           19              enables their questions and comments to go

 

           20              unanswered or be totally forgotten.

 

           21                      And I empathize with the public.  I

 

           22              know how it feels not to have their

 

           23              questions answered.  I know how it feels to

 

           24              have the questions drag on for months with

 

           25              no answers.  Therefore, I will not refuse to


 

 

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            1              respond when asked.  My purpose is to serve

 

            2              and respect the people, they alone are my

 

            3              bosses.  That's it.

 

            4                      MR. MCGOFF:  The rules that we are a

 

            5              considering were made in deference to

 

            6              people's request.  At times people did

 

            7              complain that their speaking time was being

 

            8              used by council members responding to them

 

            9              and that they were not granted adequate

 

           10              time.  The provision to which Mr. Courtright

 

           11              and Mrs. Evans are remarking was in an

 

           12              attempt not to curb anyone's right to know,

 

           13              not to curb anyone's ability to speak, it

 

           14              was simply to provide the persons at the

 

           15              podium during civic participation five

 

           16              uninterrupted time to make a statement to

 

           17              council.

 

           18                      As Attorney Minora has said, Robert

 

           19              Rules of Order and past practice have

 

           20              accepted that as a means of doing business.

 

           21              Whether we practice that at all times may be

 

           22              a different story, but it is not a

 

           23              fundamental change in procedure.  It merely

 

           24              is, again, as Attorney Minora said, it is

 

           25              merely stating what was understood as a rule


 

 

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            1              before.  Anybody else on the question?

 

            2                      MS. EVANS: Yes.  I would agree with

 

            3              what much of Mr. McGoff has to say and I

 

            4              feel that all council members when requested

 

            5              by speakers to respond during motions have

 

            6              done so in deference to the speaker, and in

 

            7              order to be able to allow a full three

 

            8              minutes or two minutes to their

 

            9              presentation.  When asked for a response,

 

           10              though, I do believe that most council

 

           11              members, if not all, have responded

 

           12              immediately to comply with the request of

 

           13              the constituent and I see no reason why the

 

           14              speaker cannot make that decision, why the

 

           15              speaker cannot state their preference for

 

           16              waiting for a response from a council member

 

           17              under motions or receiving a response

 

           18              immediately.

 

           19                      MR. MCGOFF:  Anyone else?

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, I would just

 

           21              like to say having been in your position,

 

           22              Mr. McGoff, that sometimes council members

 

           23              respond to the speaker and that diatribe

 

           24              goes on for 10 to 15 minutes and other

 

           25              speakers always complain that they never got


 

 

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            1              to speak that long, so when a council person

 

            2              interrupts the speaker or uses some of their

 

            3              time the limit should be five minutes, also,

 

            4              but sometimes it's not, and then the other

 

            5              speakers get very angry with that because

 

            6              they weren't allowed to have a diatribe with

 

            7              the council member for 10 to 15 minutes, so

 

            8              that's the only other side of the coin that

 

            9              I see.

 

           10                      MR. COURTRIGHT: On the question

 

           11              again, I'm just saying if someone asks me a

 

           12              question, if I can't answer it within their

 

           13              five-minute time then I will stop speaking

 

           14              and I will wait until motions, but if they

 

           15              stand there and tell me they are willing to

 

           16              forfeit their minutes to me so I can respond

 

           17              to their question, I don't see the harm in

 

           18              it.  I understand, and I don't agree with,

 

           19              you know, 10, 15 minutes going by and the

 

           20              other person is standing waiting for their

 

           21              turn, I do not agree with that, but I

 

           22              disagree with me not being able if the

 

           23              person is willing to forfeit their time.

 

           24                      I have tried to treat everybody with

 

           25              respect here in the four years I have been


 

 

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            1              here and believe me it's been difficult, but

 

            2              I have -- I'm not doing it -- I don't want

 

            3              to hear myself talk, I try to always make

 

            4              myself as brief as possible and to not allow

 

            5              me answer somebody that pays taxes or lives

 

            6              in this city, that's just wrong.

 

            7                      MS. GATELLI:  Well, I know, I don't

 

            8              have it with me, but I think it was the

 

            9              lawsuit that Bob Bolus filed with Fosset,

 

           10              Mr. Fosset that passed away, I was reading

 

           11              in that lawsuit and it says specifically

 

           12              that under the Sunshine Law you are not

 

           13              obligated to answer.  It is a public

 

           14              comment.  It's not to be a dialogue with

 

           15              council members.  It is for the public to

 

           16              say their comments and for us to accept it.

 

           17              It isn't a question and answer period.  You

 

           18              know, it wasn't meant to be that.  It's

 

           19              public participation and comment.  And if we

 

           20              can find the answer for them at a future

 

           21              time that's different, and there is also the

 

           22              Right to Know Law. You know, they come here

 

           23              and ask questions, they can write a letter

 

           24              under the Right to Know.  They can probably

 

           25              get the answer quicker than we can.  So, it


 

 

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            1              isn't a diatribe with the council member

 

            2              with the speaker, it's public comment.

 

            3                      MR. COURTRIGHT: And if you'd listen

 

            4              to what I said earlier, I said it was up to

 

            5              each individual.  I mean, I have watched

 

            6              prior councils and the council president

 

            7              would always ask the individual, do you care

 

            8              to respond, and if the individual didn't

 

            9              care to respond then they didn't respond.

 

           10              What I'm saying is I don't want that taken

 

           11              away from me, my right to be able to respond

 

           12              if they are willing to.  If you don't want

 

           13              to respond that's certainly up to you.  I

 

           14              understand that fully, and I'm not stupid.

 

           15                      MS. EVANS: And I would agree once

 

           16              again with Mr. Courtright, at times council

 

           17              members have not responded and certainly

 

           18              that is their choice.  If they care to

 

           19              ignore the question posed by a citizen that

 

           20              is their prerogative.  Similarly, if it is

 

           21              my choice to respond to the best of my

 

           22              ability I believe that my right to free

 

           23              speech is being taken away in that I'm not

 

           24              going to be prevented from responding.  And,

 

           25              once again, I'm not doing this without the


 

 

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            1              permission or rather without the individual

 

            2              asking for that response.

 

            3                      MS. FANUCCI: Well, you can correct

 

            4              me if I'm wrong, Attorney Minora, in our

 

            5              rules, the only one who can direct whether

 

            6              or not these questions come to a council

 

            7              member would be the president; is that

 

            8              correct?

 

            9                      MR. MINORA: The present rules call

 

           10              for all comments and responses to go through

 

           11              the president and chair rather than the

 

           12              individual councilperson.  Those are the

 

           13              ones that were adopted two years.

 

           14                      MS. FANUCCI:  Right, so no one

 

           15              really should be asking a council person a

 

           16              question until they direct it through Mr.

 

           17              McGoff; is that correct?

 

           18                      MR. MINORA:  Well, under the old

 

           19              rules.

 

           20                      MS. FANUCCI: Right.

 

           21                      MR. MINORA: Under the old rules.

 

           22                      MS. FANUCCI: So, now if that

 

           23              happens, and obviously -- first let me get

 

           24              into the freedom of speech and your right,

 

           25              you still have your right to speak during


 

 

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            1              motions.  We will not be taking away

 

            2              anyone's right to say what they need to say

 

            3              and say whatever they need to say during

 

            4              their own motions; correct?

 

            5                      MR. MINORA: Yeah, it's not a muzzle,

 

            6              it's just transposing when the response is

 

            7              going to take place.

 

            8                      MS. FANUCCI: Okay, so when this

 

            9              happens if they -- if a speaker comes up to

 

           10              the podium and says to Mr. McGoff, I would

 

           11              like to know if Mrs. Evans can tell me

 

           12              whatever, whatever her committee would be,

 

           13              if he does not say, Mrs. Evans, you can

 

           14              speak, can she still speak?

 

           15                      MR. MINORA: Technically under the

 

           16              rules that are adopted in 2006, technically

 

           17              the answer would be, no, but the response

 

           18              would have to come through the chair.

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI: And this has always

 

           20              been; correct?

 

           21                      MR. MINORA:  They were before I was

 

           22              here.  They weren't new.

 

           23                      MS. FANUCCI:  So that rule has not

 

           24              changed?

 

           25                      MR. MINORA:  No, not at all.  This


 

 

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            1              is the first change.

 

            2                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  I would like to go

 

            3              back to when Council President Murphy was

 

            4              here, they always asked President Murphy and

 

            5              I distinctly recall him asking the council

 

            6              person whether they wanted to answer or not.

 

            7              I would hope that if somebody asks a

 

            8              question Mr. McGoff is not -- I hope he is

 

            9              not going to just ignore it, and not let one

 

           10              of us answer.  If somebody comes to that

 

           11              podium and asks Mr. McGoff, "I would like to

 

           12              ask Mr. Courtright, you know, if he has got

 

           13              that pothole fixed on Washburn Street," I

 

           14              would hope he is not going to sit and

 

           15              pretend he didn't hear them and just move

 

           16              on, that that would just be plain ignorant.

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: And I don't think --

 

           18              actually I think this goes beyond a matter

 

           19              of simple decorum.  I do understand the need

 

           20              to redirect decorum within the city council

 

           21              chambers, but let us not forget this has not

 

           22              been an issue for simply the last two years,

 

           23              this has been an issue for at least the last

 

           24              10 years.  It goes well beyond this council.

 

           25              What I fear is that this is an attempt to


 

 

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            1              stifle speech.  I do know that -- well, let

 

            2              us say stifle speech and protect certain

 

            3              council members.  I do know that many

 

            4              citizens have in writing under the Right to

 

            5              Know Act and another have requested

 

            6              information that they have not received and

 

            7              it is all too easy to ignore the taxpayers,

 

            8              the citizens of the Scranton by hiding

 

            9              behind a shield of council rules that state,

 

           10              I will not interact with you publically.

 

           11                      And if I might add, the last item

 

           12              that I did find a bit offensive today would

 

           13              be the use of the pronoun "we".  We are not

 

           14              trying to stifle council's free speech.  We

 

           15              will give it to you understand motions.  Who

 

           16              is "we"?

 

           17                      MS. FANUCCI: We act as a body here

 

           18              as a council.  We are one body.  We are not

 

           19              individuals, so "we" being council.

 

           20                      MS. EVANS: Well, within any body

 

           21              now, any democracy, there is certainly

 

           22              majority and there is always room for the

 

           23              rights of the minority as well.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: You definitely have

 

           25              rights.  The votes are votes.  Everyone can


 

 

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            1              vote and we are all here to work together

 

            2              though.  When we pass a vote it is legally

 

            3              adopted as one city council.  So, yes, we

 

            4              are a "we".

 

            5                      MS. EVANS: If it does violate the

 

            6              constitution which each of us is sworn to

 

            7              uphold.  I would think the constitution of

 

            8              the United States, the constitution of the

 

            9              Commonwealth of Pennsylvania would supercede

 

           10              the rules of Scranton City Council.

 

           11                      MS. FANUCCI: Once again, we are

 

           12              trying to figure out a way not to play by

 

           13              the rules.  There are no rules anywhere that

 

           14              can be adopted, but as far as I'm concerned

 

           15              I think it's time that we go on with the

 

           16              meeting.

 

           17                      MR. MCGOFF: Anyone else?  All those

 

           18              in favor say aye.

 

           19                      MS. FANUCCI:  Aye.

 

           20                      MS. GATELLI:  Aye.

 

           21                      MR. MCGOFF:  Aye.  All those

 

           22              opposed?

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT: No.

 

           24                      MS. EVANS: No.

 

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            1              ordered.  At this time we will designate

 

            2              chairpersons, committee chairpersons for the

 

            3              next two years.  Committees - appointments,

 

            4              Community Development - Sherry Fanucci.

 

            5              Public works - Janet Evans.  Public safety -

 

            6              William Courtright.  Finance - Judy Gatelli.

 

            7              Rules - Robert E. McGoff.

 

            8                      Sub-committees.  Pennsylvania Review

 

            9              and Administration - Sherry Fanucci.

 

           10              Downtown Revitalization - Judy Gatelli.

 

           11              Boards and Commissions - William Courtright.

 

           12              Revenues/Taxes - Robert McGoff.

 

           13              Intergovernmental relations - Janet Evans.

 

           14                      I would like to now call on each

 

           15              council members for a few brief remarks.

 

           16              Mrs. Evans?

 

           17                      MS. EVANS: Thank you.  I wanted to

 

           18              explain the change in the committee.  I

 

           19              declined the Chair of the Finance Committee.

 

           20              During my term as finance chair I created

 

           21              three budgets, all three budgets benefited

 

           22              the taxpayers of Scranton.  My budgets

 

           23              eliminated borrowing, prevented a 25 percent

 

           24              tax increase, and lowered the wage tax from

 

           25              3.4 to 3.2 percent.  All three were rejected


 

 

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            1              by the mayor and his council supporters.

 

            2                      It appears that the city operating

 

            3              budget may be nothing more than the mayor's

 

            4              checkbook and it requires no oversight,

 

            5              input or accountability.  Therefore, I

 

            6              believed that one of my honorable colleagues

 

            7              would be better suited to the task,

 

            8              preferably, Mrs. Fanucci who has

 

            9              demonstrated such astute fiduciary knowledge

 

           10              and obsequious administrative fidelity.  I,

 

           11              on the other hand, prefer to keep a watchful

 

           12              eye on all committees and my colleagues and

 

           13              I must say that I do very much look forward

 

           14              to working hand-in-hand with Mr. Brazil, the

 

           15              director of the Department of Public Works.

 

           16                      MR. MCGOFF: Mr. Courtright?

 

           17                      MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.  I tried to

 

           18              reserve my comments before until right now.

 

           19              I would just like to thank everyone that is

 

           20              supporting me over the last four years.

 

           21              It's greatly appreciated.  You don't know

 

           22              how much it helps when you have supportive

 

           23              people.  I don't want to name names because

 

           24              there is just too many, and I see a lot of

 

           25              them here today and I'm afraid I would leave


 

 

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            1              someone out, so think you all know who you

 

            2              are.  Some people have been with me from the

 

            3              beginning and I've picked up a lot along the

 

            4              way, I met a lot of good people along the

 

            5              way.  I mostly would like to thank my wife

 

            6              and my children and my brother and my

 

            7              sisters and my mom because I think this job

 

            8              right here is tougher on your family than it

 

            9              is on us.  This is a rough job and getting

 

           10              rougher I think, so I would just, you know,

 

           11              like to thank them.  Sometimes you are not

 

           12              the best of moods when you have to come here

 

           13              and when you leave here or when there is

 

           14              something coming up, it's a rough job.  I

 

           15              never thought it was going to be this rough.

 

           16              When I was running this second time here the

 

           17              single most asked question of me is why

 

           18              would you do this again?  You know,

 

           19              everybody, I ask myself that sometimes.

 

           20                      But one of the persons in this room

 

           21              that I would like to thank more than anybody

 

           22              would be Kay Garvey.  I don't think that we

 

           23              would be able to get done what we get done

 

           24              here.  Most of time it goes without a hitch.

 

           25              She is the one that does all of the work,


 

 

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            1              not us, she does all of the work, and it's

 

            2              difficult to be fair to all of us and I

 

            3              couldn't find a more fair and hardworking

 

            4              person than her and I think she is equally

 

            5              fair to every single one of us.  Some people

 

            6              on this council I believe think she is more

 

            7              fair to me because I'm here every day.  I

 

            8              come in this office every day because I have

 

            9              a schedule different than most.  I might

 

           10              work for two hours in the morning and then

 

           11              not work until nighttime and I might work

 

           12              five hours then so I'm here all of the time,

 

           13              and comments have been made and I'll just

 

           14              consider it a source.  I think that she

 

           15              treats everybody fairly, most fairly, and I

 

           16              would never, ever ask her to do something

 

           17              that would compromise her.  I just can't say

 

           18              enough.  Thank you, Kay.

 

           19                      And that's all I have.  Thank you.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  Mrs. Fanucci?

 

           21                      MS. FANUCCI: First, I'd like to

 

           22              thank Mrs. Evans for the wonderful vote of

 

           23              confidence in the finance, but, again, I

 

           24              wish I could, but I am really happy with the

 

           25              economic development and it's been a very


 

 

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            1              great committee for me and a lot of fun to

 

            2              be able to get to sit and see some of the

 

            3              fruits of planning come into effect and

 

            4              thank you so much, it was very nice.

 

            5                      I just want to say that it is a

 

            6              wonderful job.  I know you look at this

 

            7              position and you do think we are all a

 

            8              little -- we have to be a little off to get

 

            9              up here and do this, but at the end of the

 

           10              day we see what we accomplish for not only

 

           11              the taxpayers, but for our own children and

 

           12              our grandchildren and our spouses.  This

 

           13              is what it's about.  It's about you.

 

           14                      It is not easy and it will never be

 

           15              easy, but I'm always grateful to see people

 

           16              who want to put themselves out there and to

 

           17              run for office and to do what they need to

 

           18              do the job -- to do the job which is not fun

 

           19              all the time, but it is very rewarding and

 

           20              know that we are out there for you and we

 

           21              want you to realize that at the end of the

 

           22              day that someone is paying attention and we

 

           23              are.

 

           24                      And I want to also congratulate,

 

           25              obviously, Mr. Courtright and Mr. McGoff for


 

 

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            1              their day today because that's what today

 

            2              was about, it was about their joining a

 

            3              wonderful team and trying to bring the city

 

            4              where we want it to be and I just want to

 

            5              say I look forward again working with both

 

            6              of you and all of our council and bringing

 

            7              our city to higher levels and if that means

 

            8              we have to do it in a way that we come

 

            9              together then that's what we should be doing

 

           10              and I just want to say that I look forward

 

           11              to starting a new year fresh and coming

 

           12              together to work as one council, and that's

 

           13              all I have.  Thank you.

 

           14                      MR. MCGOFF:  Mrs. Gatelli?

 

           15                      MS. GATELLI: I would just like to

 

           16              thank everyone for coming today, and most of

 

           17              all I would like to thank the man out there

 

           18              with the gray hair, my husband, Joe, because

 

           19              he has certainly been through a lot of

 

           20              stress and ordeals over the last two years.

 

           21              Never being home, always at meetings, never

 

           22              seeing your kids or your grandchildren

 

           23              because you are out doing the work of the

 

           24              council president.  It's very difficult and

 

           25              I think Bob being retired it's a perfect for


 

 

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            1              him because you do need a lot of time to go

 

            2              to meetings and make phone calls, etcetera.

 

            3              So I do want to thank my husband most of all

 

            4              and my family for being so kind and

 

            5              considerate when I was not around to

 

            6              baby-sit.

 

            7                      I'd like to thank Kay most of all

 

            8              for all of her cooperation and her work

 

            9              helping get agendas ready and etcetera and

 

           10              also Neil and Sue.  They stand in the

 

           11              background, but they do a lot of legwork I'm

 

           12              sure in the office and I'd like to thank

 

           13              acknowledge that they have also done a fine

 

           14              job.  And Mr. Minora, who besides his family

 

           15              being personal friends of mine, our mothers

 

           16              were friends from when they were little

 

           17              girls, so I'm very, very fond of the

 

           18              Minoras, that's not a secret at all, and I

 

           19              would like to thank Amil for working so

 

           20              closely with me on the legal matters that

 

           21              ensued over the past two years.

 

           22                      I was elected.  Maybe I didn't

 

           23              always vote the way people wanted me to

 

           24              vote, but I voted the way I thought would be

 

           25              best for the City of Scranton.  I worked for


 

 

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            1              27 years in the South Side Neighborhood

 

            2              Association and I have a pulse of the people

 

            3              in South Side for sure and I hope that I

 

            4              have served you in a way that you can see

 

            5              benefit of the City of Scranton.

 

            6                      Although, sometimes at council you

 

            7              don't always get the clear picture of how

 

            8              people feel about you, I do get phone calls

 

            9              and letters at home and people are

 

           10              supportive of what's happening in the City

 

           11              of Scranton.  I'd also like to thank my

 

           12              colleagues for always being so gracious and

 

           13              kind during the council meetings and helping

 

           14              me in no matter what I asked them to do and

 

           15              I'd like to congratulate Mr. Courtright on

 

           16              his victory and Mr. McGoff and I hope you

 

           17              have a very successful four years and, Bob,

 

           18              I'd like to say good luck, Buddy.  I know

 

           19              you will do a great job.  Thank you all.

 

           20                      MR. MCGOFF:  I, too, would like to

 

           21              thank the voters of the City of Scranton for

 

           22              their support of me during the past

 

           23              election.  I'd also like to give special

 

           24              thanks to my family, my wife who has been

 

           25              supportive from the very first time that I


 

 

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            1              mentioned to her that I was thinking of

 

            2              being placed on council or at least being

 

            3              considered when she said, no, but since that

 

            4              no she has been extremely supportive and I

 

            5              thank her for that and also the other

 

            6              members of my family, my father, my sister

 

            7              and her husband, my children who are here

 

            8              today and my grandson, Ryan, who helped with

 

            9              holding the Bible during the swearing in.

 

           10              I really need their support and I thank them

 

           11              for it.

 

           12                      I also would like to congratulate

 

           13              Roseann, Mrs. Novembrino, for her sixth term

 

           14              as controller in the City of Scranton.  I

 

           15              look forward to more of these voluminous

 

           16              reports from your office, congratulations.

 

           17                   And I would like to thank the Honorable

 

           18              judges for being here for the swearing in,

 

           19              it makes it an important event when you are

 

           20              here.  Thank you.

 

           21                      And last, I would like to --well,

 

           22              not last, I, too, would be like to thank Kay

 

           23              and the staff in the city clerk's office,

 

           24              they do a great deal of work and without

 

           25              them none of the meetings would be even


 

 

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            1              close to orderly or being done properly and

 

            2              so I thank them for their work and hopefully

 

            3              work closely together within these coming

 

            4              years.

 

            5                      And, lastly, I would like to thank

 

            6              the members of the council for the

 

            7              confidence that they have shown in me both

 

            8              in their yes votes and their no votes.  It

 

            9              is not only in agreement that things move

 

           10              forward, but it is also in disagreement that

 

           11              things move forward.  It is important that

 

           12              we consider all avenues and all thoughts

 

           13              when we are considering the legislation of

 

           14              the city and the improvement of the city and

 

           15              so I look forward to working with all of the

 

           16              members of council over the next four years

 

           17              and especially during the next two years as

 

           18              president, and I thank you very much.

 

           19                      I was go to ask Monsignor Gray to

 

           20              come forward for benediction, but I believe

 

           21              he had to leave, so I would like to now call

 

           22              for a motion to adjourn.

 

           23                      MR. COURTRIGHT:  So moved.

 

           24                      MS. FANUCCI: Second.

 

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            1              adjourned. There being no further business,

 

            2              our next regular scheduled meeting will be

 

            3              Tuesday, January 15, at 6:30.  Thank you

 

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            5   evidence are contained fully and accurately in the

 

            6   notes of testimony taken by me at the hearing of the

 

            7   above-captioned matter and that the foregoing is a true

 

            8   and correct transcript of the same to the best of my

 

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