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1 SCRANTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING

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5 Held:

6 Thursday, February 8, 2007

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9 Time:

10 6:30 p.m.

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13 Location:

14 Council Chambers

15 Scranton City Hall

16 340 North Washington Avenue

17 Scranton, Pennsylvania

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23 Lisa M. Graff, RMR

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1 CITY OF SCRANTON COUNCIL:

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3 MS. JUDY GATELLI, COUNCIL PRESIDENT

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5 MR. WILLIAM COURTRIGHT, VICE-PRESIDENT

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7 MS. JANET EVANS

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9 MS. SHERRY NEALON FANUCCI

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11 MR. ROBERT MCGOFF

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13 MR. AMIL MINORA, ESQUIRE, SOLICITOR

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15 MS. KAY GARVEY, CITY CLERK

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17 MR. NEIL COOLICAN, ASSISTANT CITY CLERK

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1 MS. GATELLI: Okay. Please stand

2 for the Pledge Of Allegiance. Please remain

3 standing for a moment to remember our

4 servicemen. Thank you. Roll call.

5 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Evans.

6 MS. EVANS: Here.

7 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Fanucci.

8 MS. FANUCCI: Here.

9 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. McGoff.

10 MR. MCGOFF: Here.

11 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. Courtright.

12 MR. COURTRIGHT: Here.

13 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Gatelli.

14 MS. GATELLI: Here. Dispense with

15 the reading of the minutes.

16 MS. GARVEY: Third order. 3-A,

17 RECEIPT OF $50.00 DONATION FROM THE HERBERT

18 SANDS FAMILY TO THE CITY OF SCRANTON FIRE

19 DEPARTMENT TO BE DEPOSITED INTO SPECIAL CITY

20 ACCOUNT #02.229544 (FIRE DEPARTMENT

21 DONATIONS).

22 MS. GATELLI: Are there any

23 comments? We would just like to thank Mr.

24 Sands for his contribution, and the fire

25 department responded to a carbon monoxide
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1 call at his home, and they did an excellent

2 job, as they always do, and we thank them

3 for their service to the city and we thank

4 Mr. Sands for his contribution. Any other

5 comments? Received and filed.

6 MS. GARVEY: Just one thing in

7 clerk's notes that I was asked to discuss

8 tonight. Some people forms that they've

9 been receiving in the mail this week that

10 say school tax bill is enclosed, but when

11 they open it, that's not what's inside.

12 So, I was asked to call the single

13 tax office inside and I spoke to someone

14 there and they said that they don't send out

15 these forms any more, that it's been

16 outsourced to a company that does it now,

17 and evidently this company stuffed the wrong

18 envelopes and sent out the 2006 wage tax

19 forms.

20 I was asked by Mr. Courtright then

21 to pass this information onto the public so

22 it would help with any confusion they might

23 have. So, anybody that is employed should

24 be receiving this form to do their taxes, so

25 don't disregarded it. It has nothing to do
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1 with their school taxes. And that's it.

2 MS. GATELLI: Thank you, Mrs.

3 Garvey. I just have a few things. Saturday

4 evening at eight o'clock at the Providence

5 Playhouse at 1256 Providence Road there will

6 be a play call Lovers And Other Strangers,

7 as that's for Valentine's Day.

8 On Friday, tomorrow evening at eight

9 o'clock at the Northeast Theater at the

10 Hotel Jermyn will be the Vagina Monologues

11 in honor of V-Day.

12 Also, tomorrow evening from 5:30 to

13 eight will be the Electric City Trolley

14 Museum Winter in the City party, 5:30 to

15 eight, benefiting Scranton Tomorrow.

16 Saturday starting at four o'clock at

17 the Asberry United Methodist Church there

18 will be a beef dinner. That's at 720

19 Delaware Street.

20 Saturday day from five to seven,

21 there will be a pork and sauerkraut supper

22 at the Court Street United Methodist Church.

23 Friday eleven in the morning to

24 seven at night, the new State Representative

25 Frank Shimkus will be holding an open house
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1 in his office at 117 North Main Avenue, and

2 he asks everyone to please stop by.

3 We received an answer from George

4 Parker about the curb cuts on Mulberry and

5 Adams, and he responded that that is under

6 the jurisdiction of the Pennsylvania

7 Department of Transportation, so, Kay, we

8 will forward all that Keith Williams

9 information to PennDOT and see if they can't

10 make those repairs expeditiously.

11 I asked about the Rockwell Avenue

12 bridge, and it is in need of replacement,

13 and a new structure is being designed

14 presently. The bridge is on the

15 Pennsylvania Department of Transportation

16 improvement plan and is funded for design

17 and construction, with 80 percent federal

18 funds and 20 percent state funds.

19 A public meeting regarding the

20 design alternatives was held in North

21 Scranton on November 25, '03, where citizens

22 had the opportunity to give comments. The

23 project is scheduled for opening of bids in

24 June of '08. So, that's for the people that

25 were inquiring about the Rockwell Avenue
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1 bridge.

2 We also received an answer from

3 Jerry Cross from the Pennsylvania Economy

4 League concerning the director of public

5 safety. People asked why it was not in the

6 Recovery Plan and why there is such a person

7 serving in that function.

8 His answer was that the 1992 and

9 1996 recovery plans eliminated the separate

10 position of director of public safety.

11 The 2002 Recovery Plan, as adopted

12 by the city and approved by the voters at a

13 public referendum, did provide budgeting for

14 such a position. I hope that this explains

15 Act 47 background. So, that was his answer

16 to that.

17 I talked to Mark Seitzinger

18 regarding the property at 2519 North Main,

19 the Habitat For Humanity house. It is down

20 at the state being evaluated for historic

21 preservations reasons, which is just part of

22 procedure for demolition, and when -- as

23 soon as they get the okay, it will be placed

24 on the demolition list. It is in very

25 hazardous condition.
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1 I also talked to Mark about the

2 property on Parker Street that Mr. Elman

3 talked about, and he said that he talked to

4 the owners and they were supposed to have it

5 down within 60 days, and he was going to

6 call them again. They have agreed to take

7 it down themselves.

8 Potholes were repaired on Dix Court,

9 1300 North Washington, 1600 of Muncy, nine

10 and ten of Clay, West Pass Avenue, 140-150

11 Dixon, 1300 of Sanderson, 200 of Cherry, one

12 and two of Popular, Greer Place, 200 of Vine

13 and Greenburn.

14 Inlets were repaired at Palm and

15 Pittston, 1612 Bullwer. A house was boarded

16 up at 1221 Linden.

17 We had snow events on Tuesday,

18 January 20 and Friday, February 2, and a

19 sink hole was repaired at 533 North Filmore,

20 and trees were trimmed -- were removed at

21 Connell Park and Nay Aug Park.

22 I also reported a property on

23 Wyoming Avenue that is sinking because of

24 the Meadow Brook Creek. It is 1713 Wyoming

25 Avenue, and Mr. Matthews is going to take a
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1 look at that.

2 And the last thing I have is just to

3 wish my daughter happy birthday. I'm not

4 going to tell you how old she is, but Mrs.

5 Krake knows. And anyone else?

6 MS. EVANS: Yes.

7 MS. GATELLI: Mrs. Evans.

8 MS. EVANS: Just three

9 announcements. On February 10, there will

10 be a breakfast from 7 a.m. to 11 a.m.

11 conducted at Saint Peters Lutheran Church

12 Social Hall located at the corner of Taylor

13 Avenue and Ash Street, that is close to

14 Petersburg Corners, benefitting Ginger

15 Dobenhauser, who underwent successful spinal

16 cord surgery but has incurred many medical

17 bills. For further information, please

18 contact Saint Peter's Lutheran at 344-2701.

19 Tickets are very reasonable, $5 for adults

20 and $3 for children under ten. There will

21 also be candy and bake goods for sale.

22 Last year at this time I asked for

23 your financial support of a West Scranton

24 student who wished to participate in the

25 People to People Leadership Program which
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1 was conducted last summer in Europe, and

2 thanks to the generosity of so many people,

3 he was able to make this dream a reality,

4 and, in fact, he gave me a lovely photo

5 album of his travels for Christmas.

6 This summer Ryan McClaughlin, who is

7 a ninth grade student at Scranton High

8 School, hopes to attend the People to People

9 Leadership Summit in china.

10 He will attend educational workshops

11 and learn about China's government, history

12 and religions. It's an honor to be selected

13 for this program. And upon his return, Ryan

14 will share his experiences with schools and

15 civic clubs throughout our community.

16 His tuition is $5300, and I hope

17 that some of you who are able will

18 contribute toward Ryan's tuition with any

19 dollar amount that you can spare.

20 Please make all checks payable to

21 People to People, care of Ryan McClaughlin.

22 Checks or cash can be mailed to Ryan

23 McClaughlin, 933 Ferdinand Street, Scranton,

24 PA, 18508. I hope you can help.

25 And, once again, as I announced last
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1 week, the Cross Your Heart We'll Have a Ball

2 sponsored by the Scranton Firefighters

3 Auxiliary on Saturday, February 10 from six

4 to 11 p.m. at Saint Joe's Center in Minooka.

5 Proceeds benefit the Scranton Chapter of the

6 American Red Cross. There will be

7 entertainment and a D.J. Tickets are $25.

8 And for ticket information, please call

9 Christine DeStefano at 344-0944.

10 There will also be raffles and a

11 special appearance by Scranton Rehab Two.

12 I'm not quite sure what that is, but I'm

13 looking forward to finding out. Thank you.

14 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else?

15 MR. COURTRIGHT: I just have one

16 thing. The West Side Crime Watch asked me

17 to announce they're going to have a meeting

18 this Monday at seven o'clock, the 12th, at

19 the crime watch building on Bromley Avenue

20 and Jackson Street, and there's going to be

21 a speaker there from the D.A.'s office

22 talking about sexual offenders. So, they're

23 inviting everyone to that meeting. That's

24 this Monday, the 12th, at 7 p.m. that's all

25 I have. Thanks.
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1 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else? The

2 first speaker is Andy Sbaraglia.

3 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

4 citizen of Scranton. Fellow Scrantonians,

5 your 7-A that came back -- that actually

6 came down from the mayor's office, right? I

7 don't think any of you had anything to do

8 with that.

9 Well, I asked around about it, and

10 somebody said this -- they've been there

11 from, I think, at that pay raise since '99,

12 so I guess I find nothing wrong with it.

13 The mayor seems to think it's okay, and I

14 think it's okay, too.

15 How about your number three here,

16 reports and communication from the mayor,

17 what did he actually report to you?

18 MS. GATELLI: Just the things that I

19 read from the various cabinet officials.

20 MR. SBARAGLIA: Anything specific?

21 MS. GATELLI: The reports I just

22 gave about the Rockwell Street bridge.

23 MR. SBARAGLIA: That's all he gave?

24 Nothing -- nothing about the financial

25 stability of the city, our BB negative bond
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1 issue or anything like that?

2 Well, I think maybe you should query

3 him on the financial stability of the city.

4 Most of the people got their raises in their

5 taxes and they want to know what they're

6 getting for their raises in taxes. I think

7 they're getting a snow job for the raise in

8 taxes, but that's my opinion.

9 Things that are going on in this

10 city should never have been done. This city

11 doesn't have the financial backing to do all

12 the things he wanted to do.

13 There used to be a little story, a

14 movie, I guess, long time ago saying one

15 bridge at a time. Where they tried to go

16 too far, you got clobbered.

17 Well, we're in that position now.

18 He tried to go too far, and we got

19 clobbered, and we're going to get clobbered.

20 I would assume -- you should query

21 him again about the Parking Authority. He's

22 already thinking of two new garages, and I

23 find it real hard to figure how he's going

24 to get the money to pay for these garages.

25 We're already -- I'm going to query --
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1 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Sbaraglia, could

2 you please stick to the agenda?

3 MR. SBARAGLIA: Well, that was the

4 reports, okay. I was just on the reports.

5 I just got a little carried away on the

6 report.

7 I would assume that you had that

8 financial report and I have no reason to

9 assume that you wouldn't get something like

10 that in your report from the city. In fact,

11 I find it very --

12 MS. GATELLI: No, it's just weekly

13 communication that comes down from cabinet

14 members or --

15 MR. SBARAGLIA: Wouldn't it be wise

16 to get --

17 MS. GATELLI: PEL --

18 MR. SBARAGLIA: -- exactly how this

19 city is doing financially as we progress

20 weekly at a time?

21 MS. GATELLI: I don't know that

22 they've ever given a weekly report, not that

23 I was ever aware of.

24 MR. SBARAGLIA: Well, somebody

25 should look into it a little more closer.
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1 MS. GATELLI: I know Roseann gives a

2 monthly report.

3 MR. SBARAGLIA: I know she does, but

4 I assume maybe we should try to get a little

5 more along the financial line from the

6 reports from the different departments as

7 they keep the budget, so forth and so on.

8 MR. MINORA: Three minutes.

9 MR. SBARAGLIA: That would be the

10 wise thing to do. Thank you.

11 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Bill

12 Jackowitz.

13 MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz,

14 South Scranton resident. I also would like

15 to talk about number three, reports,

16 communication from mayor, heads of

17 department and interested parties and city

18 clerk's notes.

19 You read two responses from Mr.

20 Parker in regards to blighted buildings that

21 are going to be tore down; is that correct?

22 With all the letters, all the

23 E-mails, all the phone calls, all the visits

24 that have been made to the mayor and to all

25 these heads, requests for them to appear at
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1 meetings and answer these questions, those

2 are the only two responses that we received;

3 is that correct?

4 MS. GATELLI: I believe I read more

5 than two responses.

6 MR. JACKOWITZ: There was two about

7 the buildings and then there was one about

8 the bridge, so maybe there was three. I

9 could have been off by one.

10 You know, this would be a good time

11 now to probably start issuing the subpoenas

12 if they're not responding.

13 MS. GATELLI: We are pursuing that,

14 Mr. Jackowitz.

15 MR. JACKOWITZ: I'm just saying,

16 it'd probably be a good time to start,

17 because there's a lot of letters that have

18 been sent.

19 I mean, we keep the post office in

20 business with all the letters that we send

21 to the mayor's office, to all the department

22 heads, so on and so forth, and we don't ever

23 get any responses.

24 And then today, I mean, I was

25 shocked, only two or three responses about
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1 blighted buildings. What about the budget?

2 What about the $13, $15, $10 million that

3 has been missing? We still don't have an

4 answer on that one. I don't care what

5 anybody says.

6 These are the questions we need to

7 be answered. Why were our taxes raised?

8 These are questions that -- these are

9 questions that have been sent to the mayor

10 and to the department heads. What about the

11 potholes and all this? You know, everything

12 that's going on in this city.

13 MS. GATELLI: I read an array of

14 potholes that were filled.

15 MR. JACKOWITZ: Right, and there's

16 an array of more of them that still that --

17 MS. GATELLI: Well, yeah, they're

18 there all the time, we know that.

19 MR. JACKOWITZ: I mean, there's just

20 letter after letter after letter sent. You

21 know, what about the money for the soldiers?

22 Have we ever got an answer to that one?

23 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Minora, I think

24 they're going way off the agenda items.

25 MR. MINORA: I agree, I agree.
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1 MS. GATELLI: Please, stick to the

2 agenda.

3 MR. JACKOWITZ: I am sticking to the

4 reports.

5 MS. GATELLI: No, there are no

6 reports on there for you to address.

7 MR. JACKOWITZ: What I'm asking,

8 though, is for City Council to get the

9 reports.

10 MS. GATELLI: You ask that at public

11 participation at the end of the meeting.

12 MR. JACKOWITZ: You know, we need to

13 get the reports. That's what the reports

14 are about.

15 MS. GATELLI: No, it's not. That's

16 to review any reports that are here.

17 MR. JACKOWITZ: Right. And I'm

18 saying that maybe it's time to subpoena to

19 start issuing --

20 MS. GATELLI: Well, we are working

21 on that. I said that once already.

22 MR. JACKOWITZ: I understand that.

23 It doesn't take long to send a subpoena out.

24 MS. GATELLI: Oh, it certainly does,

25 Mr. Jackowitz.
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1 MR. JACKOWITZ: No, it doesn't. It

2 doesn't take long at all. All it takes is a

3 little ingenuity and ambition, that's all it

4 takes. Thank you.

5 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Talamini.

6 MR. TALERICO: I have nothing on the

7 agenda.

8 MS. GATELLI: Mrs. Garvey. Oh, I'm

9 sorry.

10 MR. GERVASI: Thanks, Mrs. Gatelli.

11 When you were reading the reports, you read

12 a letter from Gerald Cross from the

13 Pennsylvania Economy League, I don't want to

14 go off track here, but I believe it just

15 said simply that there's a public safety

16 department now because it was budgeted; is

17 that actually what he said?

18 MS. GATELLI: Basically, yeah. I

19 didn't read the whole thing in total, but

20 you can have it if you'd like.

21 MR. GERVASI: In my opinion, the

22 Pennsylvania Economy League is either --

23 their incompetence is staggering or they're

24 not going to give you a straight answer.

25 Just to educate you a little bit if
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1 you don't know, the Pennsylvania Economy

2 League is hired by who? Does anyone know?

3 By the Department of Economic and Community

4 Development with the state, DCED. And

5 that's totally controlled by the secretary

6 of DCED, who is totally controlled by the

7 governor.

8 There is no legislative oversight to

9 anything PEL does or DCED does. They're

10 solely controlled by the governor. So, when

11 you ask a question of Mr. Cross from the

12 PEL, he needs permission from the

13 department's secretary, whose boss is the

14 governor. There is no oversight, there's no

15 one else to tell, there's no one else to

16 complain to.

17 And maybe you should send another

18 letter to him saying why was it okay to have

19 a public safety department created under the

20 Doherty Administration, when it wasn't okay

21 to do it under the Connors Administration?

22 Maybe you should ask him specifically what

23 changed to make that happen.

24 That might be a better solution,

25 because, and I don't want to get off track
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1 here, but these are the same people who

2 wrote this letter that sat here weeks ago

3 and said there is no alternative instead of

4 -- there is no other alternative than to

5 borrow $44 million to keep the city afloat,

6 when it was you, Mrs. Gatelli, who asked one

7 simple question of the mayor, how much do

8 you really need?

9 And I think you knocked it down to

10 $19 million from $44 million, and I believe

11 it ended up $10 million.

12 I wonder what Gerald Cross from the

13 Pennsylvania Economy League thinks if he

14 made and a $33 million error on one-year's

15 budget. So, I wouldn't take any of his

16 letters with too much credence, and I would

17 probably send another letter to follow up

18 with a little detailed information why it

19 was okay for Mayor Doherty and not Mayor

20 Connors.

21 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

22 MS. EVANS: Mr. Gervasi, if I could

23 just respond quickly. First to the last

24 point that you made, actually PEL was aware

25 that it was only going to be $10 million in
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1 borrowing early in December before the

2 motion was ever made here at Council. It's

3 contained in the PEL summary notes of their

4 weekly meetings.

5 MR. GERVASI: Really?

6 MS. EVANS: Yes. But just to go

7 back to the point about the public safety

8 director, it does say in '92 and '96, the

9 recovery plans as adopted by the city

10 eliminated the position.

11 These provisions were initiated to

12 reduce expenditures during the period of

13 time covered by those specific recovery

14 plans.

15 I, you know, I'm just adding my own

16 thoughts at this point, but it appears that

17 we are in far worse financial straits today

18 than we were in those years, yet we maintain

19 the position.

20 But he then goes on to elaborate,

21 the 2002 Recovery Plan as adopted by the

22 city and approved by the voters at a public

23 referendum providing -- or provided for the

24 budgeting of such a position.

25 Again, I'm just going to inject, I
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1 recall perusing the Recovery Plan, but I

2 must admit, I myself as a citizen, I don't

3 recall recalling that exact line, that this

4 was an addition. I think we were all too

5 concerned at that time about a potential tax

6 increase, because we were told Recovery

7 Plan, yes, or tax increase.

8 MR. GERVASI: Right.

9 MS. EVANS: And I know that's what

10 was looming in many people's minds. But

11 setting that aside, administration

12 difficulties in the operation of the city's

13 police and fire bureaus during the

14 implementation of the '92 and '96 recovery

15 plans were a factor in the funding of the

16 director of public safety position in the

17 2002 Recovery Plan.

18 I am questioning if they're implying

19 that there were great problems within the

20 departments during those years or that -- in

21 fact, was there not a public safety director

22 in the nineties?

23 MR. GERVASI: Yes, there was.

24 MS. GATELLI: Yeah, it was Jimmy

25 Klee.
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1 MR. COURTRIGHT: Jim Klee.

2 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Jimmy Klee.

3 MS. EVANS: Yes, and then he was

4 removed.

5 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Yes.

6 MS. EVANS: Correct?

7 MS. GATELLI: The position was

8 eliminated.

9 MS. EVANS: According to the

10 Recovery Plan.

11 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Right.

12 MS. EVANS: Because --

13 MR. GERVASI: It was called

14 redundant.

15 MS. EVANS: -- because they were

16 trying to reduce expenditures, and

17 apparently because you had administrative

18 difficulties in the nineties. I don't know

19 if that's true or not.

20 MR. GERVASI: I don't recall.

21 MS. EVANS: But that's the entire

22 justification for the insertion of the

23 position.

24 MS. GATELLI: You're welcome.

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1 MS. KRAKE: My name is Nancy Krake.

2 And just finishing up on the last remarks

3 that were made here, when the Pennsylvania

4 Economy League came to speak to Council,

5 Harry Miller told myself and Ann Marie

6 Stulgis out in the hall that he did not want

7 a public safety director because he didn't

8 like Jimmy Klee. He told us flat out. And

9 there were several people there.

10 So, that just proves how political

11 they are, and it has nothing to do with

12 economics, sorry to say.

13 I'd like to speak a little bit about

14 7-A. It's the only thing on the agenda,

15 because apparently everything else is

16 perfect in this city.

17 This is a raise for the secretaries

18 for all of our pension boards. They haven't

19 had a raise in over five years. It is a

20 substantial amount, compared to what they

21 already receive, but it is well deserved.

22 I can't even tell you how much value

23 it is to have correct records, accurate

24 records, up-to-date records, and dependable

25 people to do this.
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1 The city just recently lost two

2 lawsuits concerning the non-uniformed

3 pension, and I guarantee that they

4 absolutely had something to do, their

5 losing, that is, with the -- how those

6 records were kept and how the rules are made

7 available or not made available. In fact,

8 I'm sure some of them -- or one of them will

9 be appealed.

10 This is a continuing process. They

11 constantly need to be updated. And I think

12 that Council should vote yes for these

13 raises. Thank you.

14 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Anyone

15 else? Mrs. Garvey.

16 MS. GARVEY: 5-A, motions.

17 MS. GATELLI: Mrs. Evans.

18 MS. EVANS: Thank you. Good

19 evening, and Happen Valentine's Day to

20 everyone, and particularly to all of us

21 girls.

22 February also marks the annual

23 celebration of Black History Month. At

24 Scranton High School, students have created

25 beautiful ribbon pins under the direction of
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1 their art teacher, Ms. Ruddy. And, in fact,

2 I'm wearing one of those pins this evening.

3 We proudly wear these pins as a show

4 of support and respect for our black

5 community and leaders, among other school

6 activities.

7 Now, with each shared celebration, I

8 hope we continue to grow in understanding,

9 respect and unity.

10 I received a timely response from

11 Chief Elliott regarding dangerous driving

12 around the area of Boulevard Avenue that I

13 would like to read.

14 Please be advised that my office has

15 received a letter from Councilwoman Janet

16 Evans concerning dangerous driving

17 conditions around Boulevard Avenue from

18 Parker Street to the Throop line.

19 She has stated that citizens have

20 complained of drunk drivers and speeding

21 vehicles in this area. Please increase

22 traffic enforcement in this area. If you

23 have any questions, please contact my

24 office.

25 And so, I with to thank Chief
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1 Elliott and Lieutenants Mackey, Thomas, Arby

2 and Crofton for their attention to this

3 problem.

4 Council also received two prompt

5 responses from Mr. Parker. First, as was

6 mentioned a few moments ago, the handicapped

7 curb cuts in Downtown Scranton, and Mr.

8 Parker's second response involves a repeat

9 of his prior decision regarding parking at

10 the intersection of South Main Avenue and

11 Dartmouth Street.

12 He continues to view this as a

13 police enforcement issue, when no parking

14 signs would simply solve these never-ending

15 problems.

16 You see, a business opened a few

17 years ago at this location, and Council was

18 informed about two years ago, perhaps a

19 little more, that this new business did not

20 appear before the zoning board and did not

21 have adequate parking for employees and

22 customers as a result.

23 Since the administration turned a

24 blind eye for this business, the

25 administration should provide relief for the
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1 parking problems caused by the business by

2 placing no parking signs on South Main

3 Avenue and Dartmouth Street.

4 And, Kay, would you please look up

5 the traffic study of that vicinity that was

6 conducted by the state ?

7 Over the last few months, I've

8 maintained an open mind in relation to

9 obtaining financial information from this

10 administration. I visited the mayor's

11 office, and last Friday, I stopped into

12 OECD. I've requested information by motion,

13 through written correspondence, and in

14 person.

15 This pattern of unanswered requests

16 is now into its fourth year. In fact, when

17 I spoke to Ms. Hailstone on February 2, she

18 was unaware of my requests and stated that

19 she could not provide any information

20 without the approval of her boss. I

21 explained that her boss had given his

22 approval on television at a September 2006

23 public caucus meeting.

24 Eight months after the initial

25 request and five months after the mayor went
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1 on record publically agreeing to provide

2 information, the iron curtain still stands.

3 Meanwhile, our tax bills arrived

4 this week, and I've heard numerous

5 complaints from my fellow Scrantonians who

6 can't forward this tax increase. Their

7 income simply are not keeping pace with

8 their taxes.

9 They're trying to decide which of

10 their necessary bills to pay and on which

11 ones to risk penalties and fees.

12 I am very, very sorry to all of you.

13 I tried to help you with a no tax increase

14 budget, but a majority of Council did not

15 agree.

16 Because of these tax hikes,

17 exorbitant tax anticipation notes and

18 continued borrowing, I've attempted over and

19 over to see the city's finances. I've asked

20 your questions to no avail.

21 This history of lack of information,

22 coupled with a borrow and spend policy

23 buttresses the need for subpoenas.

24 Because it appears quite possible

25 that the administration may oppose
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1 subpoenas, I believe Council must pay

2 meticulous attention to each detail and

3 place itself on firm legal ground.

4 Therefore, Attorney Minora will

5 prepare a resolution for next week's Council

6 meeting of February 15, 2007 to subpoena all

7 financial documents from 2002 through the

8 present from a select number of municipal

9 authorities and departments.

10 And as these investigations

11 conclude, another wave of subpoenas will

12 follow for the remaining authorities and

13 additional departments.

14 In this way, we hope to establish

15 proceedings to strengthen our case in court,

16 if necessary, and to receive information in

17 an orderly, manageable manner.

18 And finally, I have citizens'

19 requests for the week. Place a stop sign at

20 the end of Mulberry Street at the dead end

21 passed the CMC at Nay Aug Park. A city

22 resident who very nearly has been struck by

23 a car twice while walking at Nay Aug has

24 already written to Public Safety Director

25 Ray Hayes and has received no results.
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1 CMC employees apparently exit this

2 parking lot very quickly, and on February 2,

3 2007, this gentleman was nearly hit again.

4 Please address this safety hazard as soon as

5 possible.

6 Add Ward Place to the paving list.

7 This would be, I believe, my third year of

8 making that very same request. Meanwhile,

9 all the streets and allies surrounding Ward

10 Place were paved, but for some reason, and I

11 really can't provide the reason, I don't

12 know, this short stretch of street has

13 always been ignored. So, I'm hoping this

14 may be the year.

15 Christmas trees still remain on the

16 curbs in some areas of Scranton, including

17 East Mountain. Please add the 100 and 200

18 blocks of Mary Lane and Cross Drive to the

19 paving list per residents' requests.

20 A letter to Ms. Hailstone and Mr.

21 Kresefski, are there UDAG funds or other

22 funds available in the operating budget for

23 the purchase of a steam cleaner and

24 solutions which will be used to clean

25 graffiti from both city-owned and
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1 privately-owned buildings?

2 According to code, building owners

3 have 30 days in which to clean graffiti,

4 and, of course, during the winter that time

5 period is extended, because it's very

6 difficult to do the work under inclimate

7 conditions.

8 And I do know, as I'm sure my

9 colleagues do, that Mr. Lomma sent Council a

10 letter inquiring about the initiation of an

11 ordinance whereby property owners would be

12 forced within a 30-day period to remove

13 graffiti. But as I said, we already have

14 this on the books. So, it's my hope that

15 the city would purchase this equipment.

16 And, in fact, thanks to some of our

17 city inspectors, I have a number of

18 companies here with the appropriate

19 equipment and solutions that are needed that

20 the city can look at and price out to

21 certainly get the best cost for this.

22 And what I'm hoping we can do is

23 loan this equipment to the victims of

24 graffiti. People who have had their

25 buildings covered with this type of tagging
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1 are certainly victims, not perpetrators, and

2 it's a very, very costly endeavor to have

3 your building repainted.

4 And so, again, I would like to see

5 the city make this purchase and then loan

6 the equipment to the victims so that they

7 can remove graffiti from their property in a

8 timely and cost effective manner.

9 Citizens wishing to use the

10 equipment could provide a security deposit

11 which would be returned to them at such time

12 as they return the equipment to the city.

13 Also, residents of South Side are

14 concerned about the lack of removal of

15 illegal vehicles in their area. They report

16 that other sections of the city have

17 benefitted from this service, which appears

18 to be deficient in South Side.

19 A letter to Mr. Seitzinger, 1419

20 Gardner Avenue, this is a condemned house

21 where a carport has already collapsed. When

22 will it be demolished?

23 And I have just one last item. I

24 don't believe, although I'll be frank with

25 you, I haven't seen a newspaper in probably
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1 close to two weeks now, so if I'm in error,

2 I would appreciate the correction.

3 If the mayor has not as yet

4 presented his state of the city address, is

5 anyone aware that he has? No?

6 MS. GATELLI: I didn't hear

7 anything.

8 MS. EVANS: Then I would move that

9 City Council send a letter to the mayor

10 requesting that the state of the city

11 address be presented here in City Council

12 chambers in the evening, perhaps at seven or

13 7:30 for all of the citizens of Scranton, an

14 open invitation to all the shareholders of

15 our city. That was a motion.

16 MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

17 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

18 in favor.

19 MS. EVANS: Aye.

20 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Aye.

21 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.

22 MR. COURTRIGHT: Aye.

23 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

24 ayes have it and so moved.

25 MS. EVANS: Thank you. And that's
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1 it.

2 MS. GATELLI: Mrs. Fanucci.

3 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: I'm going to

4 answer a few questions from last week. I

5 was -- actually sat down and talked to some

6 of the people from OECD after last week's

7 meeting trying to find out some of the

8 answers which we were looking for.

9 One of the questions that was --

10 came up last week was how many people have

11 defaulted on our loans that we've given

12 through the city.

13 There's been four total. I'm going

14 to give you exactly who they were. They

15 were Hackett's Bar, and three of the four

16 partners have paid the city. The final

17 person is meeting this month to settle up

18 with the city on that.

19 Preferred Produce is another one.

20 They have a small loan with the city and

21 they are in talks about options. I don't

22 know if that would be refinancing or paying

23 out, I don't know what those options are

24 right now.

25 K & A Imports was another one, and
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1 they are working on an agreement and have

2 said that they are settling up.

3 And last is Whistles. They are in

4 litigation with the city now. The loan was

5 given in the 1990s. They had trouble making

6 payments in the nineties. And, like, around

7 I'm going to say the last election, they

8 were looking to extend the terms of the

9 loan.

10 It was sent to Council and approved,

11 and then they never showed up and signed.

12 So, they have not done anything with that.

13 The terms were extended. They never showed

14 up, signed the papers, and they have not

15 paid any money in 2004, 2005 or 2006, and

16 they are headed towards a sheriff's sale,

17 from what they had said.

18 Now, we were talking last week and

19 asked questions about what is the benefit of

20 having people sign for themselves if they

21 are in a loan agreement.

22 Well, the benefit is that when they

23 do default or if they do default, which we

24 do not like them to do, they secure the loan

25 and then allows us to get their personal
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1 assets.

2 We want to go into -- that allows us

3 to go into their homes, take their homes or

4 property. That entitles us to retrieve the

5 same amount of the loan.

6 And believe me, I do not want that

7 to ever happen to anybody. I'd rather

8 everyone be very successful and pay up.

9 I also want to note that both -- all

10 four of these, two were in the last

11 administration and two were in this one, so

12 I wanted to make that clear.

13 As far as the loan from last week,

14 the new ones, this was a primary loan. This

15 was not a secondary loan. So, that is

16 something that we were not aware of at the

17 time.

18 The mayor has no ties to this

19 company, are not involved in any way. And

20 if he were to be, he would have to comply

21 with the Home Rule Charter and make sure

22 that he told us right up and disclosed that

23 right from the beginning.

24 The job creation is not minimum

25 wage. These job are sales positions and
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1 positions of stocking and showroom

2 positions. They were not -- the are not

3 small baseline positions.

4 The city gets the building if they

5 default. That is in the underwriting, we

6 will get the building, and all of the

7 equipment. Also that is in the loan.

8 Mrs. Shumaker had asked about

9 personal financial requirements. What I was

10 told is it is all in the underwriting and

11 has to be in the underwriting. They could

12 not qualify for the loan without doing that,

13 but they could not give the personal

14 information out because it is personal

15 information.

16 But they wanted everyone to know

17 that every loan and project has to comply

18 with HUD. HUD takes care of looking and

19 overseeing all of these.

20 So, not only do they have to go

21 through their own regiment, but HUD has to

22 approve it.

23 There is no connection to the Elm

24 Street project. We were talking about that

25 last week. That is the Scranton Tomorrow's
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1 project where I believe they're putting

2 money into South Side and redoing the

3 streetscape. That project is not even

4 designated where the money is going or how

5 it's --

6 MS. GATELLI: Excuse me, Mrs.

7 Fanucci. Whoever has the cell phone, could

8 you please turn it off?

9 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Or tell them

10 I'll call them back.

11 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

12 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Okay.

13 MS. GATELLI: I'm sorry.

14 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: That's all

15 right. Scranton Tomorrow has no involvement

16 in this project. And what they said to me

17 was we cannot guarantee that we won't do a

18 streetscape in front of their or maybe put a

19 light up.

20 But as of right now, no monies are

21 designated for that loan that we were

22 talking about regarding the loan from last

23 week.

24 I do want to say something, and this

25 is just -- I want to apologize to the
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1 families of the people who are seeking these

2 loans and the seller.

3 The Noonan family was part of our

4 community for, you know, 80 years. They're

5 a wonderful company. And when people get

6 up, and I don't know if it's -- I don't want

7 to say it's intentional.

8 But when you get up and you accuse

9 someone of being tied into -- you know, I

10 know we want to get the mayor at all costs

11 and try to tie him into everything, but when

12 you do that, you accuse other people of

13 doing wrong things.

14 So, we offended not only the people

15 who are selling the property, but we were

16 offending the people who were buying the

17 property, also.

18 And I want to apologize from this

19 forum, and I'm also going to ask that we

20 stick to Council's rules when it comes to

21 speaking about others in this forum.

22 We cannot insult and accuse people.

23 You know, they're good people in this city

24 and they're looking to spend money here and

25 put their faith and their businesses here,
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1 and that is something that I believe that we

2 should stand by.

3 And we can have questions, but we

4 don't have to accuse them of being a part

5 of, like, the bigger scheme of life and all

6 that silly stuff.

7 So, I'm going to ask that we stick

8 to rules of Council and stop defaming

9 people, like, from the podium, and I think

10 that's a pretty good thing to ask for.

11 The smoking ban. How about me?

12 Yeah, I'm starting with the smoking ban.

13 There was a statewide poll that was

14 conducted in Pennsylvania. Sixty percent of

15 the people were in favor of the smoking ban

16 to 37 percent who were not.

17 Now, I'm going to tell you, 64

18 percent to 35 percent women, 56 percent to

19 40 percent. The men weren't too quick to

20 jump on board, I'm going to assume the cigar

21 smokers, but don't quote me on that.

22 I'm going to say this, it's a

23 wonderful place -- it's wonderful to be

24 pretty progressive. We are on the cutting

25 edge, and I'm pretty happy to say, you know,
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1 we were ahead of the curve on this. This is

2 what legislation is about.

3 I had someone ask me and say, why

4 didn't you start off at the state level?

5 You should have started off at the state

6 level. That is not what we are about.

7 Legislation to start off at a City Council

8 level.

9 The city speaks, the state listens,

10 and then, you know, they respond to it, and

11 that's what this is all about. This is what

12 we're here for.

13 So, I want to say thanks for coming

14 out. And the people who are supporting

15 this, and the people who aren't, take a

16 breath and relax, because I think it's going

17 to be here to stay. So, I just hope that we

18 can all get together and realize that this

19 is for the health of our residents. And I

20 want to say thank you. And that is all I

21 have.

22 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Mr.

23 McGoff.

24 MR. MCGOFF: I --

25 MS. EVANS: Mrs. Gatelli, I'm so
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1 sorry. Can I just ask you a question,

2 though, before we go on? I, first of all,

3 want to say, I'm thrilled that you got the

4 information about the defaulted loans.

5 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Yeah.

6 MS. EVANS: Did they provide you,

7 though, with the actual paperwork, the

8 backup on all this?

9 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: They won't give

10 us the underwriting on anything, because

11 that is people's personal financial

12 information, and they said there is no way

13 -- HUD has to take it, but we are not

14 entitled to that because people have to

15 write out their bank accounts and what --

16 you know, their personal -- you know, that

17 is not information we get.

18 But they said in our backup and

19 everything that is available through HUD we

20 can get outside of having the underwriting.

21 So, if we need to get that, it will

22 be. But nobody really is in any litigation.

23 There's only one person we've ever had to

24 take to court to get the money. Everyone

25 else has really complied and stepped up and
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1 paid.

2 MS. EVANS: Well, like I said, I'm

3 very glad that you were able to get that.

4 It's a piece, a large piece, of what I was

5 looking for from OECD since July.

6 There's a little bit more, maybe

7 you'd be able to get that for me, as well,

8 but I do have to say, I have such a question

9 in my mind now.

10 You know, I was there last Friday

11 the day after our Council meeting hoping to

12 obtain this information so that perhaps we

13 could avoid a subpoena with OECD, and Ms.

14 Hailstone tells me she doesn't know what I'm

15 talking about.

16 I enumerated everything I had been

17 asking for for eight months, and then --

18 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: I actually

19 didn't speak to Ms. Hailstone.

20 MS. EVANS: Well, when I was there,

21 there was only -- it was Ms. Hailstone and I

22 think one other employee, and then she, as I

23 said, did say, which I can understand,

24 because I don't want anyone in any type of

25 jeopardy or difficulty.
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1 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: No doubt.

2 MS. EVANS: But she did insist that

3 she had to ask her boss' permission. And I

4 respect that, because as I said, I don't

5 want to place any employee in jeopardy.

6 But, again, this just doesn't seem

7 to fit together. You know, Ms. Hailstone

8 says she needs the permission of her boss to

9 release this information, and then I'm very

10 grateful that you got some of it, and I'm

11 hoping you'll find a way to get more of it,

12 but do you see what I'm saying? It's --

13 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: I think it

14 might be the rapport that I have because I

15 am -- that is my committee, and I do try to

16 meet with them at least every other week, if

17 I can. I try to do phone conferences with

18 them.

19 So, maybe that's what it was. We

20 were all on a conference call and maybe

21 that's why it was easier.

22 But, yeah, definitely I can get any

23 information hopefully. I'd be willing to

24 get it. I do believe it's a lot easier to

25 ask in person than it is to write them a
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1 letter, because, as you know, you know --

2 MS. EVANS: Exactly. That's why I

3 made the trip after work, but I don't know.

4 I just -- I can't seem to find a credible,

5 plausible explanation for why I can't get

6 any answers. I'm glad someone is though.

7 MS. GATELLI: Mr. McGoff.

8 MR. MCGOFF: I'll concede my time to

9 Mrs. Fanucci and Mrs. Evans. Nothing at

10 this time.

11 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Courtright.

12 MR. COURTRIGHT: Okay. All right.

13 I'm trying to get my composure. Okay. Kay,

14 I know a while back we asked -- maybe I

15 should ask Mrs. Fanucci to do this --

16 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Maybe you

17 should.

18 MR. COURTRIGHT: -- OECD about

19 getting this UDAG funds, it was $25,000 for

20 Channel 61, and I don't think we got any

21 kind of answer, did we?

22 MS. GARVEY: No.

23 MR. COURTRIGHT: Maybe you can send

24 a letter, and maybe, Mrs. Fanucci, you can

25 shoot down there and ask them personally.
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1 Because I know they sorely need it,

2 and we all agreed on asking for that $25,000

3 for 61. So, if we can ask that question.

4 Last week I brought up about

5 handicapped parking for people that have

6 driveways and for people that have garages,

7 and I also brought up about people that were

8 allowed to park in a handicapped space out

9 in front of an individual's house, and a

10 retired state trooper sergeant Jerry Tallo,

11 he was the head of the traffic division for

12 the state police and taught for many, many

13 years at the police academy the vehicle

14 code, he sent me information on all the

15 questions that I had.

16 I showed it to Mr. Minora. He's

17 going to look at it closely. And I sent it

18 down to the police department for them to

19 scrutinize and see if, in fact, there's

20 something we need to do or something we

21 could do with that. So, I want to thank Mr.

22 Tallo for the information.

23 After last week's meeting, because I

24 brought up about people calling me about the

25 smoking ban, I got a couple more calls,
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1 three, to be exact, and they had suggestions

2 of things that maybe we might -- amendments

3 that we might be able to make if we're

4 willing to make any amendments.

5 And what I asked him were -- one

6 guy, I was in my car when he called, so I

7 couldn't write it down, and I asked the

8 other two people if there are any business

9 owners that have suggestions, that they

10 think we might want to entertain for

11 amendments, if you would E-mail it to me or

12 send it to me in writing, then I can compile

13 something and maybe show it to everybody on

14 this Council and see if members on this

15 Council are willing to make any amendments.

16 I spoke to one girl today in the

17 post office and she was really happy about

18 the smoking ban. She went somewhere to eat

19 and she said it was much more enjoyable, but

20 she agreed that she wouldn't have a problem,

21 this seems to be one of the big problems,

22 and I don't know if there's anything we're

23 going to be willing to do about it, but

24 restaurants that have bars in the

25 restaurant, some of the people while waiting
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1 to be seated at their table, they'll go to

2 the bar and have a drink and maybe they want

3 to smoke, some people after they're done

4 eating will go back to the bar.

5 And she kind of gave me the idea,

6 and other business owners ask that, you

7 know, would it be possible -- would we

8 consider an amendment where if it was a

9 restaurant that had a bar, if they kept it

10 separate with either walls or a door and

11 proper ventilation, if we would consider

12 making an amendment to that smoking ban for

13 that particular area.

14 And I said I didn't know, I didn't

15 know the answer to that, I can't answer for

16 anybody else, but I asked for them to put it

17 in writing for me.

18 So, any of you business owners that

19 are feeling some pain with this that want to

20 send it, if you'd just please E-mail it to

21 me or send it to me in writing, and then

22 when I compile the, altogether, we can

23 discuss it in caucus. And if there's

24 anybody here --

25 MS. EVANS: Can I give you my
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1 amendment?

2 MR. COURTRIGHT: Go right ahead.

3 Oh, I thought you were going to give it to

4 me now.

5 MS. EVANS: Not now. When my

6 computer is back up, I will E-mail you.

7 MR. COURTRIGHT: All right. So, I

8 mean, there might be -- I know there's some

9 people that think that there's one or two

10 people on this Council that won't budge the

11 least little bit on this smoking ban.

12 And I don't know. I think if it's a

13 reasonable request, I think we'll all

14 consider it. So, if you want to send them

15 to me, I'll be happy to take them and

16 compile a list and I'll put it before this

17 Council. And if it's something this Council

18 thinks is doable, then maybe we can make an

19 amendment. That's about the best I can do

20 for that. And I thank you. That's all I

21 have.

22 MS. GATELLI: Thanks, Mr.

23 Courtright. Mrs. Garvey.

24 MS. GARVEY: Fifth order, no

25 business at this time. Sixth order, no
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1 business at this time. Seventh order. 7-A,

2 FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE COMMITTEE ON RULES

3 - FOR ADOPTION - FILE OF COUNCIL NO. 79,

4 2007 - AN ORDINANCE - AMENDING FILE OF

5 COUNCIL NO. 38, 2001, PROVIDING FOR AN

6 INCREASE IN THE VARIOUS PENSION BOARD

7 SECRETARIES SALARIES AS FOLLOWS: SECRETARY

8 TO THE NON-UNIFORM PENSION BOARD, FROM THREE

9 THOUSAND DOLLARS ($3,000.00) PER YEAR TO

10 FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($4,000.00) PER YEAR;

11 SECRETARY TO COMPOSITE PENSION BOARD FROM

12 THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ($3,000.000) PER YEAR

13 TO FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($4,000.00) PER

14 YEAR; THE SECRETARY TO THE FIRE PENSION

15 BOARD, FROM THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS

16 ($3,000.00) PER YEAR TO FOUR THOUSAND

17 DOLLARS ($4,000.00) PER YEAR; AND SECRETARY

18 TO THE POLICE PENSION BOARD, FROM THREE

19 THOUSAND DOLLARS ($3,000.00) PER YEAR TO

20 FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($4,000.00) PER YEAR,

21 SAID RAISES TO BE EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2007.

22 MS. GATELLI: As chairperson for the

23 committee on rules, I recommend final

24 passage of Item 7-A.

25 MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.
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1 MS. GATELLI: On the question?

2 MS. EVANS: Yes. We had a brief

3 caucus meeting earlier this evening

4 regarding this particular piece of

5 legislation.

6 And though it isn't palatable in all

7 ways to provide pay increases to employees

8 when the city is so direly distressed, on

9 the other hand, I listened to -- well,

10 actually I listened to presentations on both

11 sides of this issue, and I found the

12 arguments of those in favor to be very

13 compelling, particularly because I was

14 informed tonight that the city was involved

15 in two lawsuits because some of these

16 pensions were improperly handled and the

17 city lost both of those cases, and those are

18 very costly endeavors; however, it appears

19 that the -- all of these boards are well on

20 their way to becoming orderly, effective,

21 and I think handling their duties and

22 responsibilities in a very competent

23 fashion.

24 I had requested if a pension

25 administrator might be able to assist in
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1 performing these extra duties, and it

2 appears that the pension manager himself has

3 requested this almost constant assistance of

4 these secretaries.

5 And, so, because of these situations

6 involving litigation and making sure that

7 our retirees receive the proper amount of

8 pension reimbursements, I'm going to be

9 voting in favor of this. And I think

10 probably the last item I learned this

11 evening was that these individuals had not

12 received a raise since 1999.

13 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else on the

14 question? Roll call.

15 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Evans.

16 MS. EVANS: Yes.

17 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Fanucci.

18 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Yes.

19 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. McGoff.

20 MR. MCGOFF: Yes.

21 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. Courtright.

22 MR. COURTRIGHT: Yes.

23 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Gatelli.

24 MS. GATELLI: Yes. I hereby declare

25 7-A legally and lawfully adopted.
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1 MS. GARVEY: Eighth order.

2 MS. GATELLI: Douglas Miller.

3 MR. MILLER: Good evening, Council.

4 Doug Miller, President of Scranton Junior

5 City Council. I'd like to start off tonight

6 by wishing West Scranton High School

7 principal Mr. Kevin Rogan the best of luck.

8 He is retiring, and I hope he does enjoy his

9 retirement.

10 He served his time. He was a

11 wonderful educator and administrator.

12 MS. EVANS Wonderful man.

13 MR. MILLER: And he will be missed

14 by the faculty, staff and students of West

15 Scranton High School.

16 I'd like to address the smoking ban

17 tonight. I'd like to clear something up

18 once and for all. The Junior Council

19 continues to get criticized regarding this

20 issue. People continue to come up here and

21 say that we were the ones that pushed for

22 this ban.

23 And you can go back in The Scranton

24 Times archives and pull up articles, and

25 you'll see that it was the tenth grade
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1 students of West Scranton High School.

2 So, I suggest to anyone before they

3 come up here and accuse us of anything, you

4 know, do your homework. It's really

5 starting to get frustrating.

6 You know, Mrs. Evans raised the

7 issue tonight, which I thought was a great

8 idea regarding the state of the city address

9 where the mayor should come here.

10 As far as I'm concerned, I know now

11 special invitations are sent out to certain

12 special businessmen in the city.

13 MS. EVANS: Yes.

14 MR. MILLER: And, you know, I agree

15 with you 100 percent. I think it should be

16 here. You know, these are the taxpayers,

17 you know, these are the ones that, you know,

18 work hard every day, and, you know, I agree

19 that, you know, it should be held here, so

20 hopefully he will consider that.

21 Tonight is the Junior Council's one

22 year anniversary, and I would like to

23 highlight our first year.

24 Since our inception we have

25 completed numerous community service
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1 activities. During this past summer, we

2 completed five city park cleanups, and we

3 are planning to clean more city parks this

4 summer.

5 Our other completed projects include

6 purchasing and installing American flags for

7 a few of our city parks, we've also

8 purchased recreation tables for a few of our

9 city parks, and we have raised $640 for

10 Channel 61 by co-sponsoring a breakfast with

11 Santa at Scooter's Hot Dog Hut in Dunmore.

12 We have also instructed senior

13 citizens how to use the new electronic

14 voting machines, which took place at the

15 Steamtown Mall, and we also continue to

16 assist city residents with any help they

17 need in their community.

18 On Thursday, April 20, 2006, we

19 received a proclamation from Scranton City

20 Council for our service to the community.

21 Our current projects for this year

22 include raising funds to purchase a

23 children's handicapped accessible swingset

24 for Nay Aug Park.

25 We have also applied for a grant
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1 from the Tony Hawk Foundation for a skate

2 park for our city.

3 There are many more projects

4 currently in discussion that we will

5 announce throughout the year.

6 We have had a lot of interest from

7 other communities regarding our Junior

8 Council. Recently the City of Wilkes-Barre

9 contacted us regarding the formation of a

10 Junior Council of their own, and our message

11 to them was that we will reach out and

12 support them in any way we can.

13 In this past year, I have learned so

14 much about our city government and its

15 citizens. I would encourage more young

16 adults in the city to become involved,

17 because we are the future of this city, and

18 the decisions made today are the ones that

19 will affect us tomorrow.

20 And we as the Junior Council will

21 continue to carry our message. The future

22 starts now.

23 After this Junior Council was

24 formed, we did receive criticism from just

25 about everyone. They said that this wasn't
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1 our place to be. But as I stand here

2 tonight one year later --

3 MR. MINORA: Three minutes.

4 MS. MILLER: -- I think we have shown

5 these critics what we can do. We have

6 accomplished a lot and we will continue to

7 work hard to make our city a better place.

8 I would like to thank all those who

9 have supported us over our first year, and

10 we appreciate your support and assistance

11 and we look forward to continue our success

12 together. Thank you.

13 MS. GATELLI: Thank you, Douglas.

14 MR. MILLER: And at this time I'd

15 like to bring Jimmy Piazza, Scranton Junior

16 City Council member who would like to

17 address Council, thank you.

18 MS. GATELLI: Bill Jackowitz. He

19 said he'll do it later. Mr. Jackowitz.

20 MS. EVANS: Congratulations, Junior

21 City Council. And you had lovely, lovely --

22 MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz,

23 South Scranton resident --

24 MS. EVANS: -- party down there

25 tonight. I'm sorry.
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1 MR. JACKOWITZ: I hope my time

2 hasn't started.

3 MR. MINORA: I stopped it.

4 MR. JACKOWITZ: Thank you. Bill

5 Jackowitz, South Scranton resident,

6 taxpayer, retired United States Air Force.

7 Believe it or not, Scranton,

8 Pennsylvania has low income to moderate

9 income people residing in the City of

10 Scranton.

11 There are homeless people residing

12 in the City of Scranton, also. Some of

13 these homeless people actually work, which

14 means that they pay Scranton, Pennsylvania

15 wage taxes, which, by the way, is one of the

16 highest in the United States.

17 Some may say that this is not their

18 problem, others may say that the poor and

19 the homeless are this way because of their

20 own choosing.

21 In some instances, they are correct,

22 but not all. My belief is that the major

23 problem in Scranton, Pennsylvania and the

24 surrounding area is lack of employment, but

25 more importantly, the lack of family and
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1 individual sustaining wages and benefits.

2 I personally find it appalling when

3 City Council announces new jobs and

4 companies moving into the city paying low to

5 moderate wages, but more appalling is the

6 fact that some of these business are being

7 rewarded with low interest loans or no

8 interest loans to start or to refinance

9 their business with taxpayers' money.

10 Whether federal, state, county or

11 city, this is not government money, this is

12 citizens' money. The government has no

13 money. The Scranton Plan has not worked.

14 Where has the plan taken Scranton?

15 Look around. Visit with the low income and

16 moderate income families.

17 Ask the Pennsylvania Economy League,

18 the Scranton Chamber of Commerce, past and

19 present mayors or mayor, City Council

20 members, do you live in low income housing

21 or work at low income or moderate income

22 jobs?

23 Some Scranton Chamber members reside

24 outside Scranton City limits. They pay no

25 Scranton taxes, but yet the chamber was not
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1 in favor of the minimum wage increase.

2 The Elm Street Project and the South

3 Side Project has been publicized as a way

4 for low income and moderate income families

5 to purchase their own homes.

6 Mrs. Fanucci, Mr. McGoff and Mrs.

7 Gatelli just made that dream more difficult

8 by voting to raise homeowners' taxes. Which

9 will it be, more homeowners or more homes

10 for sale and vacant or more people renting?

11 Scranton and the surrounding area

12 again this quarter, last in per capita

13 income and wages. Austin Burke, September

14 has gone and went. Austin Burke was going

15 to be here in September. Where is he? He's

16 still not here. And also, where is the

17 mayor to address these questions?

18 Again, we got the lowest hourly wage

19 of the fourteen metro areas in Pennsylvania.

20 This has been going on for over 30 years.

21 Low wages means low taxes.

22 MR. MINORA: Three minutes.

23 MR. JACKOWITZ: People don't have

24 tax money. So, you know, let's get it

25 together, people.
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1 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Mr.

2 Sbaraglia.

3 MR. JACKOWITZ: Thank you, Veterans,

4 for allowing me to speak.

5 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Sbaraglia.

6 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

7 citizen of Scranton. Fellow Scrantonians,

8 I'm glad we got a little information on our

9 default loans, but was there a dollar amount

10 attached to these loans? How much were

11 they?

12 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Well, in

13 different cases. The problem is that, you

14 know, for what the loan was taken out at, a

15 lot of times if three of the partners paid

16 or two of the partners paid what is left,

17 you know, is not, so you might have, like, a

18 $15,000 loan that was originally, like,

19 $120,000, or so -- total -- the highest one

20 was the Whistles loan, the highest one, and

21 that's probably why that's in litigation.

22 The rest, I believe, were all under.

23 One was thirty, and the other one, let me

24 see here, the other one was, like, 27.

25 MR. SBARAGLIA: What's wrong with
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1 The Hilton? We forgot about that?

2 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: I'm just

3 telling you what was defaulted from our

4 OECD.

5 MR. SBARAGLIA: They should have

6 told you we lost, like, three and a half to

7 $4 million on The Hilton.

8 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Do you want me

9 to get information on that for you?

10 MR. SBARAGLIA: No, I already have

11 the information, it's just that they should

12 have gave it to you, unless you want to

13 request it for the last month or something.

14 I assume you requested it back for,

15 you know, a time period or all default

16 loans. But the Hilton was a big default,

17 and it should have been reported to you.

18 And what you should request is are

19 they paying off any loans to prevent them

20 from being in default like they did with The

21 Hilton. You know, we were paying off their

22 loan long before they went default, and that

23 was a sad, sad state of affairs. So, God

24 knows what else is going on in that office.

25 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: These are
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1 personal loans, though, so I think that this

2 is a little different than The Hilton -- the

3 whole legislation for The Hilton. Amil,

4 would that be a separate type of -- when

5 you're dealing with big corporation like The

6 Hilton, I image that the loan was not the

7 same type of loan as these small personal

8 loans that we are giving out through OECD.

9 MS. EVANS: We were --

10 MR. MINORA: You're not --

11 MS. EVANS: If I may, we were making

12 payments on a Section 108 loan for The

13 Hilton.

14 MR. MINORA: The city was. Yeah, I

15 --

16 MS. GATELLI: Well, we did that for

17 The Globe Store, too.

18 MR. MINORA: Yeah.

19 MS. GATELLI: You know, there's

20 things you have to do to try to keep

21 something in your community.

22 MR. MINORA: In larger developments,

23 it's tough -- it's obvious a person can't --

24 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: That's why they

25 probably did not give me that information.
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1 MR. MINORA: Yeah, they didn't have

2 personal guarantees.

3 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Okay. This

4 wasn't a personal guarantee loan. That's

5 what I did ask for was the loan request from

6 last week.

7 MR. SBARAGLIA: Yeah. Well, we

8 requested all the loans, including the LLC

9 loans.

10 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: I didn't ask

11 for LLC.

12 MR. SBARAGLIA: I mean, personal

13 loans is one thing, but limited partnership

14 loans are more liable to be what's there.

15 And when a -- limited partnership

16 loans, they're only limited to what their

17 liability was. Them are the loans that are

18 important.

19 I mean, you took the smallest

20 amount, but it's important that you find out

21 actually the status of this loan, all loans,

22 and find out how much is left from the loans

23 we did sell, how much money is still in the

24 kitty from that.

25 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: Right.
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1 MR. SBARAGLIA: That's important,

2 too.

3 MS. EVANS: Uh-huh.

4 MS. NEALON FANUCCI: You know, Andy,

5