7 Tuesday, October 23, 2007



10 Council Chambers

11 Scranton City Hall

12 340 North Washington Avenue

13 Scranton, Pennsylvania



































1 (Pledge of Allegiance recited and moment of

2 reflection observed.)

3 MS. GATELLI: Roll call, Neil.

4 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Evans.

5 MRS. EVANS: Here.

6 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Fanucci.

7 MS. FANUCCI: Here.

8 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. McGoff.

9 MR. MCGOFF: Here.

10 MR. COOLICAN: Mr. Courtright.


12 MR. COOLICAN: Mrs. Gatelli.

13 MS. GATELLI: Here.




17 MS. GATELLI: Are there are comments?

18 If not, received and filed.



21 MS. GATELLI: Are there any comments?

22 If not, received and filed.



25 SEPTEMBER 26, 2007.


1 MS. GATELLI: Are there any comments?

2 If not, received and filed.

3 MS. GARVEY: That's all for third

4 order.

5 MS. GATELLI: Before we start

6 citizens participation, I would like to

7 announce that as you can see all of us our

8 wearing or red ribbons. It is a red ribbon

9 week that's sponsored by the Lackawanna

10 County Commission on Drug and Alcohol Abuse

11 and the school and the county celebrate this

12 week to alert everyone to the dangers of

13 drugs and alcohol. So, we are all wearing

14 our flyers tonight in support of this cause.

15 Last week someone mentioned, I believe

16 that it was Mrs. Jones, about a property on

17 Pittston Avenue and Harris Street that was

18 overgrown and I wanted to clarify this

19 because she said that the owner was

20 Mr. Brazil, and I wanted to clarify that

21 Mr. Brazil has not owned that property for

22 the last year and a half. I did not want

23 that to be said about someone when indeed

24 it's not true, so I just wanted to clarify

25 that.


1 I also wanted to thank, and I'm not

2 allowed to say their names for

3 confidentiality reasons, but there were

4 several children that were on juvenile

5 probation and their probation officer had

6 them clean up the Billy Barrett playground

7 in Minooka. There was a lot of graffiti on

8 the sliding boards and on the walls,

9 etcetera, and these children do community

10 service, they worked there all day, and they

11 did a wonderful magnificent job at the

12 playground, so anonymously we would like to

13 thank them for their work in that effort.

14 Also, the Elm Park Church youth

15 group at the corner of Linden and Jefferson

16 is having a spaghetti dinner on November 3

17 from 4 to 7. Adults is $6, children are $3,

18 Eric Lushak is the youth advisor and that's

19 all I have. Does anyone else have any

20 announcements? Mr. Courtright?

21 MR. COURTRIGHT: Just one, I know I

22 said it before, but I ran into some people

23 this weekend that asked if I would remind

24 you that the 27th of October from 7 a.m. to

25 11 a.m. will be the St. Peter's Lutheran's


1 Church pancake and sausage breakfast and

2 that's at the corner of Ash and Taylor

3 Avenue. Thank you.

4 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Anyone

5 else?

6 MR. MCGOFF: Might I?


8 MR. MCGOFF: I received an e-mail

9 last week and I got it to late to mention it

10 for last week's meeting. It's from two

11 students at West Scranton High School who

12 are conducting what they are calling the

13 Turkey Chase Race, a 5-K run and walk to be

14 held at McDade Park on November 4 at 10 a.m.

15 It's to benefit a student at West Scranton.

16 It's a charity event. It's a 5-K race.

17 There is a registration fee of $15 or you

18 can register the day of the race. If there

19 is anyone interested I have some numbers to

20 contact, two students, Katilyn Farrell and

21 Matt Fabri, but I know it's short notice but

22 if there is anybody that's interested in

23 that type of event and hopefully worth

24 raising money, as I said, for a student at

25 West Scranton, I assume a friend of theirs,


1 but I have the information and it's I think

2 also on-line. Thank you.

3 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Anyone

4 else?

5 MS. FANUCCI: I just want to say for

6 everyone to say a special prayer for my dad

7 who underwent surgery yesterday so please

8 just keep him in your prayers. Thank you.

9 MS. GATELLI: The first speaker is

10 Andy Sbaraglia.

11 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

12 citizen of Scranton, fellow Scrantonians,

13 under "B" here for introduction, you are

14 taking the money from project No. 05-154,

15 $86,000, and transferring the same money and

16 the same organization. I was just curious,

17 what is 05-154 originally -- what was the

18 money originally for? I don't believe you

19 are going to find it there, I looked or I

20 wouldn't have asked.

21 MS. GATELLI: I'm not sure it says,

22 Andy, but sometimes if the money is not used

23 they have to put it in a new account.

24 MR. SBARAGLIA: I realize that, but

25 it could have been for -- it might have been


1 for a critical project, maybe it was better

2 than the other project, who knows.

3 MS. GATELLI: It may be the same

4 project and they just haven't used it yet,

5 so they have to put it in a new account.

6 MR. SBARAGLIA: But there is no way

7 for you to know and there is no way for me

8 to know exactly what's going on, that's all.

9 That's the only question I had is --

10 MS. GATELLI: We will find out for

11 you.

12 MR. SBARAGLIA: You know what I mean?

13 Because it's good to know exactly what this

14 money is being transferred for and what was

15 the original intent of the money there.

16 MS. GATELLI: Well, it has to be

17 something that's eligible.

18 MR. SBARAGLIA: Everything in this

19 world is eligible if you write it, so don't

20 give me that.

21 MS. FANUCCI: That's not true.

22 That's not true.

23 MS. GATELLI: Not necessarily. HUD

24 is very fussy.

25 MS. FANUCCI: That's not true with


1 HUD.

2 MR. SBARAGLIA: No, it's true. If

3 you know the right people and the right

4 lawyers everything becomes eligible one way

5 or another.

6 MS. GATELLI: Well, tell the people

7 that haven't received the money and they'll

8 tell you differently. HUD is very strict.

9 MR. SBARAGLIA: I know why they

10 didn't get the money.

11 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Quinn.

12 MR. QUINN: Ozzie Quinn, president

13 of the local Taxpayers' Association. Yes, I

14 too want to speak on 5-B and 5-C in relation

15 to the fact that this money goes back to

16 2004-2005, how much more money is in the

17 coffers down at OECD that we don't know

18 about in projects? I'd like you,

19 Mrs. Fanucci, as the chairperson for the

20 OECD to come up with how much money is in

21 reserve down there for projects that are not

22 approved. Why I'm asking this is because

23 I'm a member of the Hill Neighborhood

24 Association and I spoke to Bob Neverosky who

25 was here about a month ago and we were very


1 much concerned because when the Connor's

2 administration was leaving I wrote a grant

3 for the Hill, which I'm a member of, and it

4 was approved.

5 Subsequently, there was no money.

6 Then we wrote one, I wrote one again for the

7 Doherty administration for $60,000 and that

8 neighborhood association provides the police

9 up there, provides the DA, it provides the

10 food banks, just everything. There is 1,300

11 households that belong to that, and also the

12 fact is that, you know, the only

13 neighborhood association would actually need

14 a staff. Now, that $60,000 is laying down

15 there someplace in the building where you

16 are paying rent for which you could be

17 occupying up on the third floor and yet

18 these people up in the Hill Section are not

19 getting that money that was approved.

20 MS. FANUCCI: Ozzie, it was approved

21 and I did check into it after the meeting

22 that was here when Mr. Neverosky came. It

23 was -- he went through the inspection. When

24 they went down they could not provide that

25 money because the meetings would be held on


1 second floor. They will not release the

2 money to them because it is not handicapped

3 accessible so they let them have the money.

4 They didn't comply was the problem, so the

5 money was approved, but they can't give it

6 to them because of the handicapped

7 accessibility.

8 MR. QUINN: It is accessible for the

9 first floor.

10 MS. FANUCCI: They can't fit the

11 amount of people in the first floor to

12 convey the meetings.

13 MR. QUINN: We had meetings there on

14 the first floor.

15 MS. FANUCCI: I understand. As far

16 as HUD is concerned --

17 MR. QUINN: You can talk to Bob

18 Neverosky.

19 MS. FANUCCI: -- there was not enough

20 room -- -

21 MR. QUINN: You can twist and turn

22 how want to --

23 MS. FANUCCI: Me and HUD are just out

24 to get you, Ozzie.

25 MR. QUINN: Yeah, I'd like to look


1 into how much money is down there in their

2 coffers.

3 MS. GATELLI: Ozzie, just to

4 interrupt you for a minute, I'm not quite

5 positive, but I think that the money that

6 Bob wanted was to renovate the second floor.

7 MR. QUINN: That's correct. Right.

8 MS. GATELLI: And the point was that

9 the second floor was not accessible.

10 MR. QUINN: The fact is it's

11 accessible to the Scranton police, it's

12 accessible to the D.A.'s office.

13 MS. GATELLI: Yeah, but they are not

14 handicapped.

15 MR. QUINN: The handicap goes into

16 the first floor. That's a poor excuse.

17 MS. GATELLI: Well, that's what we

18 were told.

19 MR. QUINN: Well, who told you that?

20 One of your inspectors?

21 MS. GATELLI: The people from HUD.

22 MR. QUINN: That's a shame that those

23 people up there in the Hill with all of work

24 that they do for the people in this

25 community that you can't give them that


1 $60,000, I want to find out how much money

2 is left there in the coffers, I'd appreciate

3 that.

4 MS. GATELLI: Well, as of today, I

5 believe it was today, the mayor has

6 appointed a new OECD director and we will --

7 I will call her and find out about Bob's

8 money and see exactly --

9 MR. QUINN: I'd appreciate that.

10 MS. GATELLI: -- what it is.

11 MR. QUINN: I don't want politics get

12 involved in the neighborhood --

13 MS. GATELLI: It shouldn't. It

14 shouldn't. And it certainly wouldn't with

15 another neighborhood leader, and Sherry

16 lives there, so --

17 MS. FANUCCI: I love the Hill.

18 MS. GATELLI: We will set something

19 up with Linda and see exactly what it is

20 with that money and if it can be released it

21 will be released, okay? Next is Dave

22 Dobson. Not here? No? Anyone else? Mrs.

23 Evans?

24 MS. EVANS: Good evening. I ask for

25 your prayers for Mr. Joseph Reap whose great


1 courage, perseverance and optimism daily

2 transformed his disability into

3 uncompromising abilities and gentility and

4 for his family and friends whom he leaves

5 behind.

6 Also, please remember in your

7 prayers Mr. Frank Shalipco who passed away

8 on Saturday and his family and friends,

9 particularly his daughter, Mary, whose

10 tireless work in her Pinebrook neighborhood

11 surely made her father, Frank, very proud.

12 We did receive a report on the status

13 of the 2006 audit. There has been great

14 progress I would say within the last two

15 weeks. The auditor still requires responses

16 to the FEMA flood protection summer and

17 November 2006 flooding, the Scranton Parking

18 Authorities' 2006 audit report and three

19 confirmation letters from attorneys.

20 However, as I said, there has been great

21 progress within the last two months.

22 The Pennsylvania Economy League

23 intends to begin updating their recovery

24 plan in order to reflect the progress made

25 to date and address the current financial


1 position of Scranton. Last updated in 2002,

2 the recovery plan and accompanying

3 distressed city status have been in effect

4 for longer than the total of the combined

5 years of service of all five seated council

6 members. PEL has requested Mrs. Gatelli's

7 participation in their forthcoming efforts,

8 however, I believe that another five-year

9 plan will earn us nothing other than the

10 reputation of Scranton, the city of

11 perpetual distress.

12 Now, just as a child reaches the age

13 of emancipation and perpetuity, so our city

14 has aged to the point of financial freedom

15 for the betterment of our people. Let the

16 executive and legislative branches of the

17 government take the reigns. They both

18 already bear the responsibility and

19 consequences rather than another five years

20 of absent oversight, platitudes and false

21 projections city government should seek

22 emancipation. And, Mrs. Gatelli, I do

23 recall a meeting at which you made a public

24 statement suggesting that Pennsylvania

25 Economy League would release us from that


1 status.

2 MS. GATELLI: And I'll second that

3 motion again.

4 MS. EVANS: And so --

5 MS. GATELLI: I will not be attending

6 in case you are wondering.

7 MS. EVANS: Oh, I was just going to

8 suggest were you doing so you would deliver

9 that message to them.

10 MS. GATELLI: I won't be going so I

11 can't deliver the message.

12 MS. EVANS: Okay.

13 MS. GATELLI: That notice is in the

14 circular file.

15 MS. EVANS: Thank you. Channel 61

16 is in need of funding. Council has a few

17 available options to enable this station to

18 survive. It can vote to amend the 2007

19 operating budget to include a $13,000

20 allocation to Channel 61. Other

21 Pennsylvania municipalities provide such

22 funding in their annual operating budgets

23 for public access television or council

24 could, I should say and/or, council could

25 provide a $25,000 allocation in the


1 forthcoming 2008 operating budget. At the

2 same time negotiations for a new cable TV

3 contract will begin in 2008 and funding for

4 Channel 61 should be one of several new

5 requirements in any future agreement, but

6 the present beckons and I have no doubt that

7 the mayor can find $13,000 perhaps in the

8 contingency fund or interest earned on TANS

9 or CD's. Just as a few weeks ago $25,000

10 was a tawdry amount in the minds of the

11 administration, the same individuals who

12 thought nothing of spending an extra $25,000

13 per year for any friendly bloated auditoring

14 firm or money spent for the mayor's

15 advertising campaigns, banners and rugs.

16 Further, the administration wisely

17 donates $50,000 annually to the Everhart and

18 to a wildlife center. Surely the people's

19 access to all city and county government

20 meetings should be at least half as worthy

21 as our zoo in a democracy unless, of course,

22 the mayor prefers a covert operation to a

23 transparent accountable city government.

24 Therefore, I move that Attorney Minora

25 draft legislation for next week's meeting to


1 amend the 2007 operating budget to provide

2 $13,000 to Channel 61.


4 MS. GATELLI: On the question?

5 MS. EVANS: Yes. I should indicate

6 that council did meet this evening with

7 representatives of Scranton Today and

8 Channel 61. Without this infusion of

9 $13,000 Channel 61 screen will go black

10 effective almost immediately and this will

11 continue through December 31st at which time

12 hopefully three government bodies: County,

13 city council and the Scranton School

14 District will choose again to fund the

15 station for one additional year.

16 I believe firmly that it would be a

17 great detriment to the citizens of this

18 municipality to lose the services of this

19 station particularly in light of the fact

20 that we are, of course, a one newspaper

21 town. I do appreciate the comments made and

22 the information provided this evening by

23 Channel 61. I thank all of you for your

24 years of service and voluntarism to this

25 this community. It's priceless. I wish


1 that I were able to fund you properly, so

2 that you would be competitive with stations

3 throughout Pennsylvania and other states who

4 can certainly provide more extensive

5 programming, but, then again, they are

6 receiving far more extensive funding.

7 I might also add that it is not

8 unusual for any municipality to provide an

9 allocation in their operating budget to a

10 public access station, so we are certainly

11 not attempting to set a precedent.

12 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else on the

13 question?

14 MR. MCGOFF: Yes. I am prone to vote

15 in favor of this motion. I think that the

16 continued operation of Channel 61 to the end

17 of the year is important. I think it is, as

18 you said, the most reasonable access that

19 many people have to city, county, and school

20 district operations and it would be a great

21 loss to see it removed from the air and so

22 the $13,000 that was indicated that would be

23 needed to continue the operation until

24 December 31 I think is important and I will

25 vote, yes.


1 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else?

2 MS. EVANS: And I just might add for

3 those of my colleagues who do have the ear

4 of the mayor, I would appreciate your

5 intercession with him to find the proper

6 source of this funding and I, of course, as

7 we discussed this evening, Mrs. Garvey is

8 going to contact the D.A.'s Office and learn

9 exactly what remains in contingency, and I

10 suggested the TAN and gave you the amounts

11 earlier of what is currently available, but,

12 as I said, for those of you who can implore

13 for the survival of Channel 61 at least

14 through December the 31st with the mayor I

15 would urge you to do so.

16 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else? All in

17 favor?

18 MS. EVANS: Aye.

19 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

20 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


22 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

23 ayes have it and so moved.

24 MS. EVANS: I also have citizens'

25 requests from the last week. A letter to


1 MAM, residents of Cherry Street and Kurst

2 Court report dim streetlights. They request

3 brighter lights as a safety measure in their

4 neighborhood. The Cherry Street pole number

5 is 56976 and 45349, and there is a number

6 that I have listed as well for the Kurst

7 Street pole or Kurst Court pole I should

8 say. They have previously called the

9 electric company for assistance without

10 success. Please address as soon as possible

11 so that these residents can enjoy security

12 in their neighborhoods.

13 A letter to the city tax office:

14 I'm asking for an update on a $52 EMS tax

15 refund for a particular gentleman, he hasn't

16 received his refund to date. I don't want

17 to give his name on air, however, I did wish

18 to add that council received an announcement

19 regarding the changes in the EMS tax that I

20 would like to share with you this evening.

21 There is a site that you can access by

22 computer www.PLCM.org, and click on the

23 local services tax link at the bottom of the

24 home page and you will find exemption and

25 refund forms and frequently asked questions


1 to help with implementation and I'm hoping

2 that this will assist residents as the EMS

3 tax swiftly approaches for 2008.

4 And, finally, a letter to

5 Mr. Setizinger, residents of the 2400 block

6 of North Main Avenue request an inspection

7 and possible condemnation of 2419 North Main

8 Avenue as soon as possible, and that's it.

9 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

10 Mrs. Fanucci?

11 MS. FANUCCI: I only have one thing

12 to clarify, last week's meeting when I had

13 stepped out to use the ladies' room, someone

14 had indicated that I was wrong in what I was

15 stating about the library. The Scranton

16 Library, what I said and what I'm going to

17 restate is that the library is not closing.

18 It will be a branched, it will still remain

19 open. I did not indicate that south side

20 would not have a library as in the plan, but

21 the plan will keep Scranton Library in the

22 City, so I just wanted to clarify that. I

23 had to watch the replay of the meeting and

24 had saw that that question had come up and I

25 wanted to make sure that I indicated it


1 correctly, and that is all I have. Thank

2 you.

3 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Mr. McGoff?

4 MR. MCGOFF: Just one quick

5 clarification, I received a couple of phone

6 calls about the property that we discussed

7 last week on Cedar and Locust Avenue --

8 Cedar Avenue and Locust Street, a number of

9 people thought that that property was

10 residents from some of the things that were

11 said in council that there was somebody

12 residing on that property and that their

13 property was being sold away from them. I

14 just wanted to make to clarify that that is

15 not a residence, there is nobody on that

16 site at the present time and so no one's

17 home is being sold from them, and that's

18 all. Thank you.

19 MR. COURTRIGHT: Just two items, I'll

20 send this out myself, Kay. Across from Carl

21 Servino's Funeral Home on South Main there

22 is a street light and it's dark there

23 because of the fact that the tree has grown

24 over the streetlight, it's blocking out the

25 light, the tree is blocking out the light,


1 so I'll ask Mr. Brazil if they can get

2 somebody down there to trim that away, and

3 Mrs. Cook brought up last week about Center

4 Street so I have been going back and forth

5 all week long about Center Street.

6 Evidently, those poles and pillars or

7 whatever those things are call them that are

8 in there were supposed to be temporary.

9 They weren't supposed to be permanent, I'm

10 being told that they could be removed. I

11 was under the impression they were going to

12 be removed but they are still there. The

13 court is no longer vacated and cannot be

14 there. There is some people very upset

15 about it, they have been calling all week

16 long so maybe I'll speak with Mr. Hayes

17 about getting those removed, but you are

18 correct, that's street has not been vacated

19 and I don't know if it's illegal, but it's

20 closed and it shouldn't be, so I will speak

21 to Mr. Hayes about getting those removed.

22 If, in fact, they do want to vacate it

23 I think they need to take a good hard look,

24 vacating that entire street, maybe a portion

25 of that would be bad, that entire street is


1 going to reek havoc, I don't believe I'll

2 talk to Mr. Hayes about it this week.

3 That's all I have. Thank you.

4 MS. GATELLI: When did you last

5 speak to someone?

6 MR. COURTRIGHT: Today. Someone

7 from, I don't want to get them fired, from

8 the bank down there, evidently there were

9 some big shot from the bank in and he is not

10 happy about the fact that I guess they are

11 using the bank's lot to cut through and get

12 out of there and it's just causing big

13 problems, so --

14 MS. GATELLI: I'm only asking because

15 I spoke with someone this afternoon and that

16 he said the vehicles could get through.

17 MR. COURTRIGHT: They got both ends

18 blocked.

19 MS. GATELLI: I don't know if it's

20 true, I didn't check myself.

21 MR. COURTRIGHT: It's a bad

22 situation. I've been down there several

23 times.

24 MS. GATELLI: The intent is not to

25 close it and from what I was gathering it


1 was passable, you know, there was enough

2 room for a fire truck, etcetera, to get

3 through 24.

4 MR. COURTRIGHT: They've got it

5 blocked. You can't get in from Washington

6 Avenue, you can't get in from Adam's Avenue,

7 I don't know what you call those things.

8 Mrs. Cook, do you know what they are called?

9 MRS. COOK: Bollards.

10 MR. COURTRIGHT: Bollards, okay.

11 You've got them on both ends and you just

12 simply --

13 MS. GATELLI: Well, then I was given

14 the wrong information. I was told it's not

15 going to be vacated.

16 MR. COURTRIGHT: So, we'll check on

17 it. Thank you for looking into that.

18 MS. GATELLI: That's exactly what was

19 on my notes to talk about. And the only

20 other thing is the issue of the streetlights

21 again. Mrs. Evans brought it up and Mr.

22 Courtright and I know Mr. Courtright sent a

23 letter to Mr. Brazil about a streetlight

24 petition and I gave Neil one tonight to send

25 to Mr. Brazil, but as you recall in the


1 summer we did get a notice that streetlights

2 there is no allocation of funds for

3 streetlights, so you can put all of the

4 requests in you want, you are not going to

5 get a streetlight because there are no funds

6 allocated for that. Now that PPL is not

7 involved we are charged for streetlights and

8 it's approximately $800 per streetlight.

9 So, you know, maybe we ought to look at

10 that for our budget, also, for 2008 to

11 appropriate a portion of funds for street

12 lighting. It is imperative in the

13 neighborhoods when it is dark and it is a

14 deterrent to crime when your neighborhood is

15 lit up properly, so I think we should

16 investigate that and maybe we can even ask

17 OECD if they can pay for them and then we'll

18 owe out of the money there is. So, just for

19 the record, no one will be getting them real

20 quick, so if you put one in and you are

21 expecting one it's not going to happen

22 because there is money, and we will continue

23 as a council to work on that to provide safe

24 streets for our neighborhoods, and that's

25 all I have.


1 MS. EVANS: Mrs. Gatelli, may I?

2 MS. GATELLI: You may.

3 MS. EVANS: The request I made this

4 evening was simply for them to check it.


6 MS. EVANS: It may need a new bulb

7 or --

8 MS. GATELLI: That would probably not

9 be much.

10 MS. EVANS: Right.

11 MS. GATELLI: So I'll have Jeff take

12 care of that.

13 MS. EVANS: Thank you.

14 MS. GATELLI: For the new ones I

15 think we need to put some kind of funding in

16 place because none have been put in.

17 MS. EVANS: Maybe talk to Mr. Kurz

18 from MEM.

19 MS. GATELLI: All right.

20 Mrs. Garvey?


















12 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

13 entertain a motion that 5-B be introduced.

14 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

15 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

16 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

17 those in favor?

18 MS. EVANS: Aye.

19 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

20 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


22 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

23 ayes have it and so moved.


















15 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

16 entertain a motion that 5-C be introduced.

17 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

18 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

19 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

20 those in favor?

21 MS. EVANS: Aye.

22 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

23 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


25 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The


1 ayes have it and so moved.








9 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

10 entertain a motion that 5-D be introduced.

11 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

12 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

13 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

14 those in favor?

15 MS. EVANS: Aye.

16 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

17 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


19 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

20 ayes have it and so moved.











5 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

6 entertain a motion that 5-E be introduced.

7 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

8 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

9 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

10 those in favor?

11 MS. EVANS: Aye.

12 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

13 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


15 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

16 ayes have it and so moved.











1 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

2 entertain a motion that 5-F be introduced.

3 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

4 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

5 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

6 those in favor?

7 MS. EVANS: Aye.


9 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


11 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

12 ayes have it and so moved.











23 MS. GATELLI: At this time I'll

24 entertain a motion that 5-G be introduced.

25 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.


1 MS. FANUCCI: Second.

2 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

3 those in favor?

4 MS. EVANS: Aye.


6 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


8 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

9 ayes have it and so moved.






15 MS. GATELLI: Douglas.

16 MR. MILLER: Good evening, council,

17 Doug Miller, Scranton Junior City Council

18 President. After weeks of reviewing

19 applications from students interested in

20 serving on our council, Junior Council vice

21 president Ian Miller and I have nominated

22 two students who we feel will represent

23 their school and classmates with great pride

24 and commitment. The nominees to fill the

25 vacancy on our council are Casey Bales, a


1 Junior from West Scranton High School and

2 Nicole Bierie, a freshman from West Scranton

3 High School. We believe that these two

4 students are the best candidates because of

5 their involvement in the community and their

6 commitment to make our city a better place.

7 With that said, I ask council president

8 Gatelli to make a motion to formally appoint

9 Casey Bales and Nicole Bierie to the

10 Scranton Junior City Council.

11 MS. GATELLI: I'll make a motion to

12 appoint Casey Bales and Nicole Bierie to the

13 Junior Council.

14 MR. COURTRIGHT: Second.

15 MS. GATELLI: On the question? All

16 those in favor?

17 MS. EVANS: Aye.

18 MS. FANUCCI: Aye.

19 MR. MCGOFF: Aye.


21 MS. GATELLI: Aye. Opposed? The

22 ayes have it and so moved.

23 MR. MILLER: Congratulations and

24 welcome.

25 MS. GATELLI: Why don't each of you


1 come up and just introduce yourself and say

2 a few things about yourself, I'm going to

3 put you on the spot.

4 MR. BALES: I'm Casey Bales and I'm a

5 junior at West Scranton. I participate in

6 drama club and German Club at West Scranton

7 High School. I also take classes at David

8 Natchee School of Dance and I also take

9 archery lessons.

10 MS. BIERIE: My name is Nicol Bierie

11 and I'm a freshman at West Scranton High

12 School and I'm involved in the drama club,

13 the chorus club, the spirit club, the

14 Spanish club, the mock trial club and I'm

15 currently running for secretary of our

16 class. I also traveled with the school on

17 the last retreat and I traveled to Florida.

18 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. We welcome

19 you.

20 MR. MILLER: Last week I shared with

21 council a proposal for Junior Council. This

22 proposal involved creating a contest that

23 encourages residents to take pride in their

24 neighborhoods. We researched this project

25 in the City of Wilkes-Barre's website. We


1 hope council is supportive of this

2 opportunity to improve our neighborhoods.

3 Last week that I stated that we would give

4 council a week to review this plan and that

5 tonight I would ask for council to make a

6 motion to approve this project. So, at this

7 time I ask council to please make a motion

8 to approve this project so that we could

9 begin the planning stages of this project.

10 This project involves restoring pride in our

11 neighborhoods and I believe we are all

12 supportive of any efforts that will help

13 improve our quality of life.

14 MS. GATELLI: I don't know about

15 anyone else, but I really didn't get a

16 chance to discuss it with any of my

17 colleagues or to discuss it with the mayor.

18 I think that he would have to be involved

19 and probably Sandy Mashinski down in Parks

20 and Rec and maybe even in the Architectural

21 Heritage Association because they gave

22 awards for homes that are very well done

23 according to their standards. So, why don't

24 we give it a few weeks, Douglas, and I'll

25 talk to my colleagues about it and see how


1 they feel. I personally think it's a good

2 idea, but I think some bugs have to be

3 worked out and we need the cooperation of

4 everyone else before we can commit to it.

5 MR. MILLER: Okay. Thank you.

6 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Sbaraglia.

7 MR. SBARAGLIA: Andy Sbaraglia,

8 citizen of Scranton. Fellow Scrantonians, I

9 read in the paper that Mr. Krushefski is

10 leaving the administration. I would like to

11 know how this affects the audit in any way.

12 We have been waiting for that audit, you

13 were all to blame that the audit was not

14 forthcoming because you didn't act fast

15 enough, now we get a guy that's leaving,

16 leaving at the most critical time of the

17 whole city. You prepared a new budget and

18 this is the man that was supposed to do most

19 of the work on the new budget and he decided

20 to leave. It brings up a lot of questions.

21 Why would a man at the most critical time in

22 the city, a man that's his job to do would

23 leave? And it's hard to say. I don't know

24 why, I was hoping maybe some of you may have

25 an answer on why he should leave other than


1 being sick and tired of doing what he has

2 been doing. I guess I would be, too, though

3 maybe that's the reason. I would get sick

4 and tired of putting out that garbage

5 reports after report and having to stand by

6 it and say, "This is how it should be," and,

7 "This is how it will be," and you know darn

8 well it isn't to be.

9 That's why every year at the end of

10 the year you are looking for money. I am

11 just wondering if the TANS money is

12 available and that's a good question. There

13 is millions of dollars in TANS that has to

14 be paid at the end of this year, could that

15 be one of the reasons why he would leave? I

16 don't want to have to explain to the

17 taxpayers why we haven't got this money

18 available to pay off a lot of things that

19 have to be paid. Maybe he is right. Maybe

20 he should jump ship at this time. It's a

21 good time to leave. He can always get a job

22 somewhere, he is an accountant.

23 As you know, my son has many, many

24 doctorate degrees in accounting and he just

25 don't understand any of it, why somebody at


1 a critical time. I can see after the budget

2 was out maybe leaving, at least you have

3 done their job to the people of Scranton and

4 paid your salary all of them years, but to

5 jump ship at this time it doesn't really

6 smack good in my eyes, probably doesn't

7 smack good in anybody's eyes, it's just

8 something that he has done and there is

9 nothing you can do about it.

10 It's too bad the city is going to

11 suffer because if anybody should know about

12 the finances of the city it's him. He

13 should know if we are deeply in debt, if we

14 can't come up with the TAN money or any of

15 these things. You haven't I get seen the

16 budget and I guess it's not ready to come

17 before you yet or they must have talked to

18 you a little about but, well, regardless

19 it's going to come before, it's going to

20 blow off I guess and it's a sorry sad of

21 affairs if we can't get that TAN money if we

22 have to borrow again to borrow on top of it.

23 Thank you.

24 MS. EVANS: Mr. Sbaraglia, just a bit

25 of information for you, TANS Series A is


1 traditionally paid in full in July each year

2 and that occurred once again this past July.

3 TANS Series B has a last report of the

4 controller's office has not yet been

5 touched. There is ten million and

6 fifty-thousand dollars in an account labeled

7 TAN Series B.

8 MR. SBARAGLIA: Thank you.

9 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Spindler.

10 MR. SPINDLER: Good evening, Council.

11 Les Spindler, city resident. First of all,

12 as a citizen in this city, Mrs. Evans, I'd

13 like to thank you for making a motion for

14 the $13,000 for Channel 61 because it's the

15 only way that the truth gets out of the

16 things that happen in this city because we

17 all know in the Doherty newsletter they

18 don't tell the truth.

19 Next thing, Mr. McGoff, last week

20 you were asked a question about immigration

21 and you wouldn't answer it in public in an

22 interview and wouldn't answer it in private

23 out in the hallway, why is that? Is that

24 you don't want the people to know the truth

25 about how you feel about things? I guess


1 the answer was -- the question was answered

2 in Saturday's paper when you said, "We need

3 to embrace all immigrants."

4 I take it to believe that you are in

5 favor of illegal immigrants in this country.

6 People that are getting tax free, everything

7 tax free, they don't pay for medical

8 insurance, and we pay for that and I guess

9 you are in favor of illegal immigrants,

10 that's wonderful. You don't care about us

11 taxpayers, you care more about illegal

12 immigrants. Mrs. Fanucci, again on your no

13 empty store fronts that you brought up last

14 week, four more counting -- plus the four I

15 asked you last week, 214 Wyoming Avenue, 219

16 Wyoming Avenue, the old -- where Quint's

17 Army/Navy was and where North American

18 Warhorse was on Mulberry Street, those jobs

19 went to Dunmore, so I don't know where all

20 of your filled up store fronts are, but you

21 are living in the same dream world as Chris

22 Doherty is with his 3,000 jobs he brought

23 into the city.

24 Next thing, Mrs. Fanucci, you say to

25 bring up productive things, which I did, but


1 nobody does anything. Why don't you make a

2 motion to have your solicitor draw up

3 legislation to have the smoking ban for

4 minors in public places and a ban on cell

5 phone use while driving?

6 MS. FANUCCI: Would you like an

7 answer?


9 MS. FANUCCI: Because right now they

10 are look into a state ban for cell phones so

11 I did not feel it was necessary to do that.

12 MR. SPINDLER: Well, why don't you

13 be proactive --

14 MS. FANUCCI: Well, do you want the

15 answer?

16 MR. SPINDLER: I don't want all of my

17 time used up.

18 MS. FANUCCI: Well, it's going to be

19 used up if you ask me a question.

20 MR. SPINDLER: Answer the question

21 when I'm done. We should be proactive like

22 West Pittston laws and like Carbondale does

23 and make their own laws. They didn't wait

24 for the state.

25 Last week, Mr. Courtright, thanks


1 for answering my question about Center

2 Street, I also saw those things there, it's

3 a safety hazard. If one of those buildings

4 back there gets on fire they are going to

5 burn down because fire trucks can't get back

6 there and I'd love to know what rocket

7 scientist was that okayed that. Thank you.

8 MS. FANUCCI: Mr. Piccolino. He is

9 not here? Mr. Quinn.

10 MR. QUINN: Thank you. Over the

11 weekend the Associated Press unequivocally

12 stated that the America's working poor

13 cannot support and is being stretched to the

14 breaking point. The story is about

15 household income that where it shows that

16 consumers, especially those making less than

17 $30,000 a year, are cutting spending on

18 food, medical care and critical services.

19 According to the news story these households

20 are living from paycheck to paycheck.

21 In the City of Scranton, according

22 to the US Census, the median household

23 income is $31,900. That means that there is

24 $29,999 households, approximately 14,000

25 almost half the households, are below


1 $30,000, so they are really having very

2 difficult time.

3 And why I bring this up is because

4 of the -- it's that time of the year when

5 you are going to pass a budget and it's

6 already been I guess supported by some

7 members of the council here that you are

8 going to increase the taxes here in the City

9 of Scranton, 25 percent. Judy, you said,

10 no, but I don't know what the other ones

11 said, okay? I know Janet is for it.

12 MS. FANUCCI: I want to know where

13 the rumors started that I --

14 MR. QUINN: I'm talking please.

15 MS. FANUCCI: You made it up.

16 MR. QUINN: Tell her to keep quite.

17 MS. GATELLI: Go ahead.

18 MR. QUINN: The fact is that the

19 school board is going to pass -- they passed

20 the $60 million bond and they are going to

21 execute it and you are going to see a raise

22 in their taxes. The county commissioners

23 they decreased the taxes, but they gave an

24 increase in 2004 so they put a spin on it

25 and it was still 26 percent, so what I'm


1 saying is the fact is that people are

2 hurting out there and you passed an

3 ordinance, the fact that you are going to

4 take homes away from people, elderly and

5 people who I mentioned here under the

6 $30,000 who can't afford the basics yet they

7 are going to have to paying -- we are paying

8 taxes now that's exorbitant, you are going

9 to take away their homes from them and I ask

10 you again to go back and try to look at the

11 social economic data in the City of Scranton

12 and make your proposals, your budgets as per

13 the social economic data not what the mayor

14 says or not what anybody at council says,

15 okay, but do it that way with the exception

16 of Janet Evans. Last year she came up with

17 a budget, finance chairperson, ignored it.

18 I hope that they won't ignore Mrs. Evans

19 this time, okay?

20 Now, the last thing that really

21 astounds me is the fact that the City of

22 Scranton franchise Comcast receives over

23 $800,000 a year from Comcast for the cable

24 and you can't fund 61 with over that

25 $800,000? If that isn't a political snafu I


1 don't know what it is. You know, you can't

2 -- it's not looking out for the people,

3 those people who are sitting at home

4 18 percent elderly one in four poverty 17.2

5 percent in poverty, the state is 11.9, the

6 state's medium income is $40,000, so,

7 please, look out for the people, your

8 electorate and do something, look at the

9 data. Look at Mrs. Fanucci, try to think

10 about it Mrs. Fanucci. Don't try to think

11 of coffee shops and whatever, do us a favor

12 sometime. Thank you.

13 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

14 MS. EVANS: Mr. Quinn, I wanted to

15 respond to your final statement regarding

16 the Comcast, in actuality the figures

17 plugged into the 2007 operating budget

18 exceed what has been received by the city

19 this year in terms of payments made each

20 financial quarter reflecting the 5 percent

21 Comcast profits, so we are actually not only

22 receiving less money than we did last year,

23 but the monies received will not even equal

24 what has been plugged into the current

25 operating budget. They are under budget if


1 you will, under our budget.

2 MR. QUINN: What are talking about

3 dollarwise?

4 MS. EVANS: Pardon?

5 MR. QUINN: How much are you talking

6 about dollarwise?

7 MS. EVANS: Oh, I'm going to have to

8 do the math for you, but I believe it's 700

9 and some thousand that was put into the 2007

10 operating budget and I think at this point

11 in time we did receive a payment very

12 recently that is normally not received until

13 November and it was for, I'm going to

14 approximate here, about half of what it

15 should be, and I think this reflects a

16 pattern of cancelled contracts between

17 viewers and Comcast. Their numbers

18 obviously are down because we know that, you

19 know, they have levied increases regularly,

20 but the money simply isn't there. It isn't

21 being received by the city, so there will be

22 a gap in this particular budget line item.

23 MR. QUINN: But they will be

24 receiving 700 and some thousand dollars?

25 MS. EVANS: The city?


1 MR. QUINN: Yeah.

2 MS. EVANS: I don't believe we will.

3 MR. QUINN: How much do you think we

4 will be receiving?

5 MS. EVANS: It's difficult to gauge

6 because of the final payment is not made --

7 the final payment for this current fiscal

8 year will not be made until February 2008.

9 MR. QUINN: Well, let's put it back.

10 I mean, last year, the 2007 budget --

11 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Quinn, we are

12 going to have to address this --

13 MR. QUINN: I was having a

14 conversation.

15 MS. GATELLI: I know, but we can't

16 because the other people don't have that

17 opportunity. Mrs. Evans, can you find that

18 out for him later?

19 MS. EVANS: Yes, I'd be happy to.

20 If you want to e-mail I can --

21 MR. QUINN: Certainly. Thank you.

22 MS. EVANS: Share the facts.

23 MS. GATELLI: She will look it up for

24 you.

25 MR. QUINN: Thank.


1 MS. GATELLI: Thank you, Mr. Quinn.

2 Mr. Dobson.

3 MR. DOBSON: Good evening, Council.

4 Dave Dobson, resident of Scranton and a

5 Taxpayer Association associate. I'm going

6 to put my sewage talk on the side for now

7 and address the 61 issue I wrote a little

8 statement here. I feel it's important to

9 fund Channel 61. It's unconscionable to

10 pledge $25,000 and not deliver it after the

11 services are rendered, and these people

12 provide uncolored news without comment for

13 our citizens. They don't tell anybody what

14 to think, they just show the results of the

15 various meetings, and take my word for it,

16 if somebody got out of line here or was

17 insulting or embarrassing or off center, I

18 talk to a lot of people around town, and the

19 citizens don't always have the best opinions

20 of these people, so if somebody is out of

21 line or whatever usually the people that

22 watch the program are capable of determining

23 that and they don't really consider them

24 heroes.

25 And the people that I see propose to


1 take it over they have a political agenda of

2 their own and sometimes they can't separate

3 facts from their own fiction. News reports

4 are edited. One time I attended a town

5 meeting at a local university, social

6 security was the issue, and the former

7 congressman was allowed himself time on

8 privatization, many young people cheered him

9 despite his lack of objective impulse. He

10 left without allowing sufficient comment for

11 objective views, many people were standing

12 in line and they just weren't given any

13 chance to make a comment and basically, this

14 is just an example, but it violates common

15 sense on that objectivity and also IRS rules

16 involving - for nonprofit involving

17 politics, if a none profit or church group

18 is going to invite one candidate they are

19 supposed to invite most of the candidates

20 and give them an opportunity to speak

21 irregardless of whether they agree with

22 their agenda or not. That's an IRS rule for

23 nonprofits, so I would appreciate if we

24 could look into it and wherever if you have

25 to raise my taxes a dollar big deal.


1 MS. GATELLI: Thank you, Mr. Davis.

2 MR. DAVIS: Salaam aleikum. My name

3 is Jim Davis and I'm here tonight to talk

4 about the eviction, the eviction of

5 Washington Plaza. Has anybody ever found

6 out what happened to the people and what we

7 are going to do about the houses that lay

8 their empty? Has anybody inquired into it?

9 Does anybody care? That's my problem

10 because I can go through the Hill Section

11 and I can start on Mulberry Street and I can

12 start looking down Taylor Avenue all the way

13 to Prescott Avenue, I have never seen -- it

14 looks like a bombed out shelter, it really

15 does. All of those houses were taken down.

16 All of those -- I used to know most of the

17 people that lived there, that whole

18 community was dispersed and destroyed in a

19 lot of ways. As you know and I know, once

20 you have been raised in a certain area you

21 destroy the homes you destroy the community,

22 I have gone through that four times, I saw

23 Adams Avenue in the city, this beautiful

24 thing of modern -- what was that called,

25 Midtown Redevelopment and the Judy Gatelli.


1 Okay. Jimmy Connors, Mrs. Gatelli,

2 University of Scranton, Hill Neighborhood

3 Association went through the Hill Section

4 and exterminated -- or they didn't

5 exterminate, they --

6 MS. GATELLI: Yes, that's correct, we

7 did exterminate, you are right, we did.

8 MR. DAVIS: You exterminated that

9 whole community I'll tell you what, we have

10 not forgotten, but you know the people said,

11 "Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord."

12 You know, whenever I hear you being

13 afraid of this or afraid of that and I can't

14 understand who pays for this guard, your

15 personal guard? Who pays? Because when you

16 are not here he is not here, so who pays for

17 that, you? Does that come out of your

18 salary? I hope so at least. Then we can

19 say, "Hey, if she -- if see doesn't come,

20 good. We are saving money," but the thing

21 is you have been -- you have been a pain the

22 sides of many people that I know personally

23 for an awful long time and I think you

24 should do something about it like resign.

25 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Davis, I don't


1 intend to resign. When I worked there I

2 closed drug houses.

3 MR. DAVIS: Can I finish?

4 MS. GATELLI: They were drug houses

5 that I closed.

6 MR. DAVIS: All the houses were drug

7 houses?

8 MS. GATELLI: Most of them were drug

9 houses, yes, they were.

10 MR. DAVIS: Have you been up there

11 lately?

12 MS. GATELLI: Yes, they were drug

13 houses.

14 MR. DAVIS: Have you been up there

15 lately? Have you seen the houses that are

16 gone?

17 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

18 MR. DAVIS: Have you seen the

19 properties that are totally wiped out?

20 MS. GATELLI: Marie Schumacher.

21 MR. DAVIS: Totally wiped out. You

22 are a shame. You should be ashamed of

23 yourself.

24 MS. GATELLI: Well, I'm not. I'm

25 very proud of my record in community


1 development.

2 MR. DAVIS: I'm quite sure that God

3 will do the right thing with you.

4 MS. SCHUMACHER: Marie Schumacher,

5 resident and member of the Scranton

6 Lackawanna Taxpayers' and Citizens'

7 Association. A few things tonight, I want

8 to do some follow-up so even though I

9 may ask questions if you would wait until my

10 three minutes have been consumed or I

11 complete before you answer.

12 To start off though, I would like to

13 speak to the rumor that Mrs. Fanucci talked

14 about on the tax incentive, that was PEL and

15 their presentation here, I believe it was

16 last year, that promised us a 25 percent tax

17 increase last year for 2007, 2008 and 2009

18 and if you go back and check the records you

19 will find that's what they promised.

20 And also a point of information

21 before I get to my follow-ups, and that is I

22 don't know yet whether the city has hired an

23 engineer, but the lack of an engineer or

24 anybody apparently in that department to do

25 any follow-up on their subcontractors is


1 really affecting the citizens. By now we

2 should have had the traffic signals

3 throughout the city, should have been timed,

4 that whole project should have been

5 completed, instead, it hasn't even been put

6 out to bid yet and why? Because the

7 Allentown company that was contracted by the

8 city to do that work hasn't been producing

9 and who is there to follow- up? With the

10 price of gas going up it really hurts a lot

11 of people to sit at a red light when they

12 are not timed, if they were timed and had

13 sensors they could be back on their way

14 instead of burning unnecessary fuel.

15 And now to my follow-ups. First,

16 last week as promised I delivered a series

17 of letters to you, two of which requested

18 specific information on specific budget

19 items. I delivered those copies they were

20 -- two of the letters were two months old,

21 the others were more recent, I delivered

22 those to Mrs. Fanucci and Mrs. Gatelli and

23 Mr. McGoff because they are the three who

24 said they had no problem getting information

25 from the mayor. I'd sort of like -- if I


1 moire time I'd like to play a game I have

2 seen on the Price is Right where you get a

3 car if you -- if you ask -- if you have one

4 number right and then a sound comes on and

5 then another, "Do I have two numbers right,"

6 and a sound comes on, and the prize that I'm

7 looking for is some transparency in

8 government, and I'd like to go through all

9 nine questions that were addressed in those

10 documents and say, "Do I get one answer? Do

11 I get two answers?"

12 I would really love the answers and

13 after I hope you will inform as to whether

14 or not you are going to be able to provide

15 those for me. Mr. Courtright, can you

16 respond on the plans for the police

17 headquarters finishing?

18 MR. COURTRIGHT: I haven't gotten an

19 answer yet, sorry. I'll ask again.

20 MS. SCHUMACHER: Maybe you can ask

21 one of your three colleagues who has no

22 problem. Any answers to any of the

23 questions on those? Nothing. Thank you.

24 MS. GATELLI: Is there anyone else?

25 MR. DANSICO: Good evening, again,


1 council, my name is a Lou Dansico, I'm here

2 representing Scranton Today, and I've come

3 to the lectern to just thank you for the

4 action that you have taken tonight. That

5 action will allow us to continue to operate

6 the station for the balance of the year. I

7 thank you on behalf of the citizens of the

8 City of Scranton who I guess we all serve,

9 us in the capacity of being a medium by

10 which your message gets and I thank you on

11 behalf of the citizens who want you to

12 receive that message. I also look forward

13 to next year the opportunity of once again

14 receiving money from the city to continue

15 the work of Scranton Today. Thank you very

16 much.

17 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Piccolino, I called

18 you a little while ago so you can come up.

19 MR. PICCOLINO: Giovanni Piccolino,

20 taxpayer, business man in Scranton.

21 Scranton police are investigating a pair of

22 fights that sent two University of Scranton

23 students to a hospital. Two unidentified

24 men were assaulted on the 440 Block of

25 Costello Court about an hour apart Friday


1 police said. The alleged attackers names

2 were not released, but the police said they

3 were also college students. The first malae

4 involved eight to ten men who alleged

5 another man unarmed around 7:00 a.m. police

6 said. The second victim in the same area on

7 Costello Court happened around 2:5 a.m. The

8 second victim was also a man who was

9 allegedly beaten by a couple of other men

10 police said. In this incident the victim's

11 leg was placed on the roadway curb and

12 stomped breaking a bone the police said.

13 The victim initially didn't want anything

14 done, but is now working with investigators

15 said Scranton police captain Carl Graziano.

16 Both incidents remain under investigation,

17 no charges have within filed.

18 My point of this is that we are

19 constantly handing things left and right to

20 the University of Scranton and when you are

21 trying to make a town a college town there

22 is more violence and propensity or people

23 drinking and whatnot to create more

24 violence, and I think like violence in the

25 City of Scranton has to be an issue that we


1 look at a little bit more when we are

2 handing this and that and things out left

3 and right to the University of Scranton.

4 You bring in a lot of students, a lot of

5 mixture and that's not a good situation.

6 Each and every time our public safety is

7 called out there, you know, it's a burden on

8 the taxpayers. There has got to be some

9 kind of way that we could somehow someway

10 get some kind of money out of the "U". I

11 know it's a nonprofit, but, you know, if we

12 come up with this NCC deal where we have an

13 ordinance where we come up with these

14 ridiculous $2,300 in penalties and fees if

15 you can't afford to pay your taxes, there

16 has got to be some kind of ordinance we can

17 do in order for us to get some kind of money

18 out of there, because, you know, all of

19 these things, putting a kid's leg on the

20 curb and stomping it and breaking it in half

21 and the taxpayers are paying for that kind

22 of stuff, at the same time th "U" is

23 building up left and right and left and

24 right and basically taking our tax dollars

25 and our police force and our firefighters


1 and everything with it and it's a very, very

2 heavy burden on the City of Scranton

3 taxpayers and we should definitely do

4 something about it.

5 Another issue I would like to talk

6 about is Channel 61. That is very, very

7 vital to all of the citizens of Scranton

8 especially the people who can't get here and

9 handicapped and whatnot, for us to say we

10 are giving them money and then pull it away

11 I think is a big shame. You know, again

12 with all of this tax money that we are

13 digging out of the all taxpayers' pockets,

14 there's got to be some kind of money

15 available for the TV stations so people have

16 the freedom of speech and they can see how

17 their government is being run. Thank you

18 very much.

19 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

20 MR. COURTRIGHT: I'd just like to

21 comment on one thing Mr. Piccolino said

22 because I have been thinking about it for a

23 long time and I wanted to wait after the

24 election, I don't want to sound like a

25 political speech, but a lot of businesses


1 throughout this city higher police officers

2 extra duty, The Ice Box, South Side Complex,

3 I think Mr. Piccolino's business, and I

4 thought maybe we could go, I said I will

5 wait to all of the election business is

6 over, maybe we can go to the University of

7 Scranton and ask them to try to be a good

8 neighbor and maybe they can pay for two

9 officers up in the Hill, even on the

10 weekends when the kids are a little bit more

11 crazy, but I think what you need to do is

12 you got officers sometimes working extra

13 duty and they only get straight time, and

14 that's not an extra duty job that they are

15 going to go running for because they are

16 going to really work hard on the weekend up

17 there, so maybe if we get the University to

18 agree to hire two police officers on Friday

19 and Saturday and they were to get time and a

20 half, I think we could control a lot of

21 problems up there. So maybe I'll try to

22 take that on and see if I can't speak to

23 somebody over there and see if they would be

24 willing to help us out with that and I think

25 it would benefit them and us. That's all I


1 have. Thank you.

2 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

3 MR. TALIMINI: Joe Talimini, citizen

4 of Scranton. I'm speaking tonight on behalf

5 of Dan Dowrimple, who as you all know,

6 graduated from West Scranton High last year

7 and Dan is a student at Berkley College

8 music in Boston. Dan put out a CD out of

9 his own costs, it's an instrumental CD, ten

10 original songs, and Dan asked me to convey

11 the message that he would like anybody who

12 wants to buy that CD at $5 a piece to please

13 do so, send the money to Channel 61, that's

14 Dan's contribution to trying to help Channel

15 61.

16 And I would also like to take issue

17 with the mayor and council that this is a

18 terrible example to set for the citizens and

19 the for the kids in this community that with

20 the exorbitant fees that we pay to Comcast

21 for our TV stations that they can't afford

22 an extra 25 grand, it is sad, but here is a

23 kid who just graduated from high school and

24 is paying his way through college and he is

25 going to donate five bucks for each CD that


1 he paid for to Channel 61, and I would

2 encourage anybody who is interested in

3 purchasing it to please contact Channel 61.

4 Mr. Piccolino has graciously offered to

5 handle some of the CD's down at his place.

6 If anybody needs anything call me at

7 Scranton Large or I'm sure they can call

8 Channel 61 and get that information and

9 thank you very much. And I'm hoping that

10 Channel 61 will stay on the air.

11 MR. JACKOWITZ: Bill Jackowitz, South

12 Scranton resident. This is the third time

13 in six weeks when I come up to speak

14 Mrs. Fanucci has left the room. Life,

15 paycheck to paycheck. Many signs indicate

16 America's working poor and not so poor are

17 being stretched to the breaking point and

18 Mr. McGoff is advocating that we take care

19 of the illegal immigrants and nondocumented

20 immigrants who are living and working in

21 this city for under the table wages and

22 sending most of the money back to their

23 relatives back home. Well documented,

24 Mr. McGoff. Money that you still have four

25 days will only last two days. Americans,


1 Scranton citizens are increasingly unable to

2 stretch their dollars to the next pay as

3 they juggle higher rents, food, and energy

4 bills and higher taxes. Now in Scranton

5 they must worry about losing their homes

6 thanks to Mr. McGoff, Mrs. Fanucci and

7 President Gatelli.

8 Food prices in the last year, milk

9 21.3 percent increase; eggs, 43.9 percent

10 increase; chicken, 8.1 percent increase;

11 coffee, 6.8 percent increase; beef and veal,

12 6.4 increase, and many others. Also, gas

13 prices and heating oil on the rise again.

14 Economists and analysts fear the strain will

15 get worse as people are hit with higher home

16 heating bills this winter. Mortgage rates

17 are going up and Scranton politicians

18 raising city taxes 25 percent, Mr. McGoff,

19 Ms. Fanucci and President Gatelli to make it

20 easier for Scranton homeowners to lose their

21 homes, but yet Mr. McGoff advocates making

22 it easy for undocumented illegal immigrants

23 to take jobs away from Scranton, US

24 citizens. This will create a larger burden

25 for Scranton taxpayers, illegals do not pay


1 taxes. All cities, council members, the

2 mayor and Austin Burke should visit Labor

3 Ready on Wyoming Avenue at 5 a.m. every

4 morning and also at the end of the day when

5 workers are paid. They are usually paid by

6 vouchers or by check which, by the way, no

7 taxes are taken out of them, so, again,

8 illegals and undocumented do not pay taxes.

9 Mr. Courtright, I never said that you

10 do not support Channel 61. What I said was

11 that you and the other council persons voted

12 for $25,000 for Channel 61 not knowing if

13 the money was available, so if anyone was

14 wrong it was you and you fellow council

15 members for voting for a donation you did

16 not have.

17 And, Mr. McGoff, I stand corrected,

18 you did not vote for the $25,000, I

19 misquoted you, I misstated last week. Miss

20 Fanucci, Scranton does not have one-store

21 front property available downtown, you are

22 correct, there are more available than you

23 can count with more becoming available.

24 It's a totally misleading statement, but

25 Scrantonians are intelligent people, we just


1 vote the wrong people into office. Thank

2 you.

3 MS. GATELLI: Anyone else?

4 MR. MORGAN: Good evening, Council.

5 Tonight I would just like to say that I

6 really hope that city council comes through

7 with the money for Channel 61, but I would

8 also like to inform all of the people in the

9 City of Scranton and outside of the city

10 that Channel 61 is an major asset to this

11 community and I think that people fail to

12 realize that it severs more than just the

13 people in Scranton, I think it's audience is

14 very wide and broad and I think it's goes

15 all the way to Pittston. Myself and Ozzie

16 Quinn, who is the president of our tax

17 group, has sat down in the last month and

18 had discussions about Channel 61, we didn't

19 know that there financial situation was as

20 bleak as it is right now, and I would like

21 to say that I seriously hope that council

22 comes through with the money that they have

23 talked about tonight and that the Scranton/

24 Lackawanna Taxpayers' and Citizens'

25 Association is going to do a drive to raise


1 money for Channel 61, but our position is

2 going to be multifaceted because we would

3 like to see Channel 61 go to low power FM.

4 We would also like it see them broadcast on

5 a lot of different bands like Internet,

6 computers and so forth and so on, so we are

7 going to do a very wide ranging fundraiser

8 that we have already talked to people, I

9 have personally talked to people to bring

10 this about. And the tax group came forward

11 when the free swim came and we accomplished

12 that mission and we are going to tackle this

13 one and we are a small group and we are

14 looking forward to council working with

15 Channel 61 to give them and give us enough

16 time to try and help Channel 61 and for

17 everyone to please give a donation to

18 Channel 61 at 500 Vine Street. No matter

19 where you live in the county it's very

20 important, this channel is a major asset

21 which really brings forth freedom of speech

22 in every way. Judge Munley has a show

23 there, we have -- we just have so many

24 people there that have so many things that

25 are so vital to this community, not just


1 Scranton, places outside of the city in

2 Lackawanna County and I think that everybody

3 should consider sending a donation to

4 Channel 61 and also to support the tax

5 group. You can call Ozzie Quinn at 347-8813

6 or you can call me at 558-1648, and this is

7 a real thing and we are going to make it

8 work. Thank you.

9 MS. FRANUS: Fay Franus, Scranton.

10 What I'm saying tonight is just my opinion I

11 feel very strongly about it. I would like

12 the people in the city to understand where

13 Mr. McGoff is coming from, in my opinion.

14 Mr. McGoff was quoted on October 26 when

15 asked a question by Mr. Courtright why he

16 wanted the job, Mr. McTiernan's seat, he

17 said, "I have no political aspirations. I

18 have no real political affiliations."

19 Well, I believe that, in my opinion,

20 to be an out and out lie, and if Mr. McGoff

21 would lie about something like that he would

22 lie about anything else. Then he also went

23 onto say, and here's a good one, he wants to

24 find someone who he feels he is the kind of

25 person has not been corrupt, has not been


1 corrupted, and he says, and I use that not

2 in a criminal way, but has not been

3 corrupted by political process, somebody who

4 doesn't have an affiliation of constituency,

5 someone holding them, someone going through

6 the city and representing the people.

7 Well, Mr. McGoff, if anybody, if

8 anybody, is politically corrupt you are

9 number one along with Mrs. Fanucci and

10 Mrs. Gatelli. I mean, my gosh, you

11 certainly don't represent the people in the

12 city when you give them a 25 percent tax

13 increase. And then you said you wanted it

14 only for a year and then Mrs. Gatelli said

15 she wanted to bring someone here that had

16 ties -- that had ties to either -- that did

17 not have ties to either political party, so

18 she would like to appoint Mr. McGoff to the

19 city council. Well, this is totally

20 unbelievable.

21 Mr. McGoff, you are all about

22 politics. You are like everyone else there

23 on council you are there to represent the

24 people that appointed you, and the people

25 that appointed you are Mrs. Gatelli and


1 Mr. Chris Doherty. You are there to do his

2 work and his agenda because you have to be

3 responsible for the person who put you in

4 that seat and that's Mayor Doherty. You are

5 not there for the people who work and live

6 everyday and pay and pay and pay the taxes

7 that you as a swing vote enacted upon them

8 and you expect us to want you as a council

9 person? You were never elected by the

10 people. You were appointed, you owe Mayor

11 Doherty and you owe Mrs. Gatelli so how

12 could we possibly want someone like you in

13 office? If anybody has any brains at all

14 they will never put you in office. And so I

15 say remove the politics, remove the taint

16 and remove yourself from council,

17 Mr. McGoff.

18 MS. GATELLI: Ray Lyman.

19 MR. LYMAN: Raymond Lyman. Mrs.

20 Gatelli, the Pinebrook Association

21 dissolved, Jerry Richardson told me that.

22 Him, Mary Shalipko and Mr. Pittick dissolved

23 the association because Mary's father,

24 Mr. Shalipko died, and Jerry said that since

25 the lack of officers they dissolved it and


1 he told me that my neighborhood association

2 is getting a $5,000-block grant. Now, if

3 I'm -- now, I filled out a block grant

4 application for $500 for a camera and was

5 turned down, do you remember, Sherry, you

6 told me that?

7 MS. FANUCCI: It wasn't turned down,

8 Ray, remember, you sent it to the wrong

9 place? They never received it.

10 MR. LYMAN: I sent it to Sara

11 Hailstone.

12 MS. FANUCCI: It was never received

13 to Sara. Remember, you told me you sent it

14 to the wrong place?

15 MR. LYMAN: And then I delivered -- I

16 mailed it back to the right address.

17 MS. FANUCCI: Right, but at that time

18 it was late, it was too late that

19 the expiration date had gotten away, that

20 was the problem.

21 MR. LYMAN: Oh, but either way, he

22 told me that it was sent, that I'm getting

23 $5,000 and then the Greenridge Neighborhood

24 Association is saying that. Now, I want to

25 know the truth? Am I getting $5,000 for the


1 Bell Street Neighborhood Association? Yes

2 or no?

3 MS. GATELLI: I never saw an

4 application for you.

5 MR. LYMAN: Because since they are

6 being dissolved, because he's telling me, he

7 was fighting with me down in the store and I

8 said, "I don't know anything about it."

9 And, number two, if that's true we

10 would fix our catch basin and trim the trees

11 if that's true and --

12 MS. GATELLI: Well' find out for you.

13 MR. LYMAN: And now I have some

14 other problems. Now, up by John Adams the

15 lines need to be painted. Now, you can tell

16 the school boards since they are moving

17 around, shuffling around and I couldn't find

18 out where they were and I see on 61 they

19 were at Robert Morris. I tried to call down

20 when they were at the administration I said

21 why can't they be at John Adams. The

22 secretary told me in an ignorant way, "Mind

23 your own business."

24 She used a little profanity at me

25 since I come down here at city council and


1 she says city council is a joke and I

2 thought that was a little ignorant; and

3 number two, you know the light down by

4 Clinical Labs down here, this light? All

5 three lights, you know, the green, yellow,

6 and red is burned out, so, Kay, can you send

7 a letter?

8 MS. GATELLI: Kay, you are working

9 for Ray.

10 MR. LYMAN: No, the light, not the

11 sign. It's the light.

12 MR. COURTRIGHT: There is a problem

13 up there.

14 MR. LYMAN: I got another problem.

15 MS. GATELLI: Well, your time is up.

16 You can wait and talk to us after.

17 MS. LYMAN: But, this is important,

18 Mrs. Gatelli.

19 MS. GATELLI: Will it take one

20 minute?

21 MR. LYMAN: Yeah, one minute.

22 MS. GATELLI: Okay.

23 MR. LYMAN: You know down by on

24 Capouse Avenue on Gibson Street and the

25 800-block of Capouse we need a light there.


1 Sherry, I told you --

2 MS. GATELLI: A stop sign is there.

3 MR. LYMAN: No, a blinker light

4 because when the cars on Gibson and on

5 Capouse the stop sign they come out of,

6 pardon my words, a bat out of hell and the

7 little kids that come from home from John

8 Adams, you know, they try to cross the

9 street and the cars almost hit them.

10 MS. GATELLI: Okay. Thanks you.

11 MR. LYMAN: So can you a send a

12 letter?

13 MS. GATELLI: Absolutely.

14 MR. LYMAN: You mentioned last week

15 or two weeks ago -- -

16 MS. GATELLI: You are going over

17 your minute now.

18 MR. LYMAN: Okay.

19 MS. GATELLI: You said one thing.

20 MR. LYMAN: 1490 can, you guys send a

21 letter to our state representatives about

22 1490?

23 MS. GATELLI: Yes, we mentioned last

24 year.

25 MR. LYMAN: All five of you can send


1 a letter.

2 MS. GATELLI: We did last week.

3 MR. LYMAN: To all of our state

4 representatives to stop Comcast.

5 MR. GATELLI: Yes, we did that last

6 week.

7 MR. LYMAN: And you have Verizon and

8 all of the other cable companies coming in

9 the city --

10 MS. GATELLI: Thank you.

11 Mr. Patilla is waiting anxiously.

12 MR. LYMAN: Thank you.

13 MS. GATELLI: By the way, you have a

14 great hat on, Ray.

15 MR. LYMAN: Thank you, Judy, a lot of

16 people say that.

17 MS. GATELLI: Are you for Cleveland

18 or --

19 MR. LYMAN: Boston.

20 MR. PATILLA: Scranton resident,

21 member of Scranton/Lackawanna County

22 Taxpayers' Association. Earlier today when

23 I was at the courthouse Channel 61 came up,

24 and, you know, it's kind of pitiful that an

25 elective body can make a promise and then


1 rengeg on it, but when it comes to this

2 council, not everyone, but the council as a

3 whole it's not unexpected. Like I said,

4 that day when you voted on it I waited for

5 it to happen and it didn't happen. You

6 know, Channel 61 as everybody else has

7 stated is very important for the residents

8 in this area, and it would behoove city

9 council as an individual, as a council

10 person to show the way just like the student

11 did and make a donation for that station.

12 I'm not going to ask Comcast for a donation,

13 Comcast gives you guys enough money. Maybe

14 if some of that money went to the businesses

15 in this city or paid down that debt we

16 wouldn't have that problem, you know, but it

17 all boils down to malfeasance and

18 mismanagement. Our money is going to places

19 where it's not doing the city -- the

20 taxpayers any good, you know, and back to my

21 number one pet peeve, we are getting to a

22 few weeks before it's election time so I'm

23 asking every young person out there, every

24 registered voter out there, like I said, I

25 don't tell you who to vote for, not as long


1 as it ain't no body currently in office.

2 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Patilla, you can't

3 say that, please.

4 MR. PATILLA: But it's time for the

5 citizens of the city to be represented, not

6 the businesses, not the corporations, not

7 the lawyers, not the solicitors, but it's

8 the taxpayers, the residents, the Hispanics,

9 the Afro-Americans, the Caucasians, the

10 Irish, the Italian, all of us as a whole

11 because one group doesn't make up this city,

12 just like one group doesn't make up this

13 country. You know, we are Scranton and we

14 deserve to be represented to the fullest.

15 We shouldn't have to beg, we shouldn't have

16 to have certain situations of Channel 61 not

17 having fund being because certain people

18 have their own private agendas. You know, I

19 like say every week, you will not be there

20 come November because I don't see --

21 MS. GATELLI: Mr. Patilla, please.

22 MR. PATILLA: -- positive votes for

23 you in this audience. I see people coming

24 to readdress their council people with their

25 problems and you have yet to show that you


1 are here for the people of this city not

2 Doherty, not anybody else, but the citizens

3 of this city. We are the ones that pay the

4 bills. We are the ones stuck with the

5 bills. I'm done. Have a nice night, Mrs.

6 Evans.

7 MS. EVANS: Thank you.

8 MS. GATELLI: You friend, Janet.

9 Crissy.

10 MR. SLEDENZSKI: Hello, Bill?

11 MR. COURTRIGHT: Hi, Chris.

12 MS. GATELLI: Crissy has a sticker

13 on, too.

14 MR. SLEDENZSKI: Hey, Billy. Hey,

15 Judy, two games left this week, Judge, what

16 are we going to do.

17 MS. GATELLI: What are we going to

18 do, are we going to them?

19 MR. SLEDENZSKI: We are going to take

20 it you all the way, Judy, I hope we do. I

21 hope for you, too, Janet, and the bowl teams

22 take it.

23 MS. EVANS: Thank you.

24 MR. SLEDENZSKI: I really mean it.

25 Thank you.


1 MS. GATELLI: Thanks, Crissy.

2 MR. CANNES: Good evening. My name

3 is Jeff Cannes, I'm a businessman here in

4 Scranton as well as a resident. I have come

5 here, well, first of all, I have to

6 acknowledge that I have heard some

7 interesting logic and perhaps rhetoric, but

8 I'm not envious of your jobs here, I

9 appreciate what you did, obviously it's not

10 easy. I'm coming here with a business

11 matter, I don't know if this the right venue

12 or not. In early 2005 we signed a contract

13 with the city for work, construction work to

14 be done at Crowley Park, the project was in

15 the approximate value range of $198,000.

16 The work was pursued with diligence, there

17 were no complaints about the quality of work

18 or anything missing from it. We are still

19 owed I believe $37,400 without any

20 discussions about possible interest for non

21 payment. Basically, our firm has been

22 funding this job for a couple of years. The

23 city's response has been that a grant which

24 had been anticipated did not come through

25 and they were, therefore, unable to pay the


1 bill. The logic of this escapes me. I

2 don't know to whom I might address myself to

3 seek payment. We have on a regular basis

4 requested payment from the city. There have

5 been multiple broken promises. At this

6 point it has been assigned to an assistant

7 solicitor who frankly does not comprehend

8 what has happened, he has spoken with our

9 bookkeeper and clearly demonstrates a lack

10 of knowledge of what has transpired or the

11 figures and it's just going nowhere.

12 I would appreciate the opportunity

13 to address and perhaps outside of this room

14 since I know that my time is short here and

15 demonstrate to whomever the responsibility

16 parties might be the facts of this matter

17 and see how we can get paid. Now, can you

18 please tell me to whom and where I would go?

19 MS. GATELLI: I would ask that you

20 stay for a minute after and we'll have you

21 talk to the solicitor.

22 MR. CANNES: Thank you. I'm fully

23 aware the public monies don't grow on trees

24 either, but it just seems unconscionable.

25 MS. EVANS: What is the name of your


1 company?

2 MR. CANNES: Jerry Cannes,

3 Incorporated. Thank you.

4 MS. GATELLI: You're welcome. Anyone

5 else?

6 MR. ANCHERANI: Good evening,

7 Council, Nelson Ancherani, resident and

8 taxpayer, city employee and financial

9 secretary of the FOP, First Amendment

10 Rights. A number of months ago Council was

11 informed that experienced and trained

12 officers would be leaving the Scranton

13 Police Department for improved opportunities

14 with other departments. The exodus had

15 begun with one officer leaving a couple of

16 months ago and now three more are scheduled

17 to leave in the very near future. I'm sorry

18 to say, but it is just the beginning. I

19 don't blame them because they are truly

20 bettering themselves. The departments that

21 they are joining are well-equipped and the

22 officers will be treated with respect. I

23 wish them luck. The officers that are

24 leaving weathered a six-year wage freeze,

25 but enough is enough. That partly


1 illustrates what I mean about treatment.

2 Six years ago the mayor wrote a recovery

3 plan that stripped the police officers of

4 everything they had gained over the years.

5 He instituted a six-year wage freeze and

6 wanted the active workers to pay for retired

7 members health care. The unions resisted

8 and are locked in fierce arbitrations and

9 appeals in the courts. One very important

10 thing the mayor wants to do is to break the

11 unions. I know I sound a like a broken

12 record, but what I'm about to say should be

13 remembered. The mayor violated his recovery

14 plan from the beginning when he gave raises

15 through his favorite people and created new

16 positions. It has costs the city over 11

17 1/2 million dollars cumulatively, that's

18 cumulatively up to December 31, 2007. By

19 the end of 2008, that figure would be close

20 to 20 million cumulatively. This figure

21 does not include consultants and attorneys.

22 The new budget will be presented in three

23 weeks to council by the mayor and I predict

24 Miss Fanucci, Mr. McGoff and Ms. Gatelli

25 will pass a record budget and raise our


1 taxes 25 percent regardless of what Ms.

2 Gatelli says.

3 MS. GATELLI: You just get that

4 wallet ready, Nelson.

5 MR. ANCHERANI: Point of interest,

6 only 23 applicants showed up to take the

7 entry level police exam, 23. That's

8 pathetic. We never had such a low number

9 taking the test since the testing with an

10 opened up to everyone, not just city

11 residents. We have to ask ourselves, why

12 would anyone want to become a police in the

13 City of Scranton and work for one of the

14 lows paid departments in the area? We have

15 approximately 100 patrol officers who

16 answered approximately 70,000 calls per

17 years. This averages out to 700 calls per

18 year for each officer. Needless to say,

19 that is more calls than some municipalities

20 get in a year. I see Lynn Krushefski, our

21 business administrator is leaving probably

22 for better opportunities. I guess $80,000

23 isn't enough even though most police

24 officers in the city make half of that.

25 Thank you.


1 MS. GATELLI: Thank you. Anyone

2 else? Make a motion to adjourn?

3 MR. COURTRIGHT: So moved.

4 MS. GATELLI: I'll see you next

5 Tuesday.


7 (Meeting adjourned.)






















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